It was really helpful to hear you talk about this unit without actually hearing it. I wanted to know someone’s thoughts from a more simple perspective for a long time… Knob per function is absolutely the way to go, and I’m surprised more manufacturers are not doing this. Getting lost in options with small plastic devices is hell on earth for me
Hah! I really couldn't agree more regarding small plastic devices. I am glad they make small plastic devices for the price and mobility. They have a place, but having a nice selection of one knob per function devices are nice to work with. One knob per function devices become limited, but really challenge interface engineers to create something competitive against screen based devices. Screen based devices can almost compare to an endless amount of VST plugins for an engineer. So many options and things you can pack in, but the user must navigate at some point. Thanks for the comment Tony!!
Great description of the stages one traverses with this device. I'm on day 6, and even though it seems simple and it is, for the most part, the complexity of what can be done is definitely something I'm very excited about. 16 steps for each voice and pattern length of 64. The one thing I'd say I would like to see is the ability to program 64 steps, not just 16. Pattern chaining kinda solves this.
Thanks! They have a way for you to chain up some patterns but the implementation seemed strange. I may go back and mess around with it again. I remember it worked fine just not fluid like an Elektron etc. I been using the time divisions to stretch out patterns on certain tracks for now. Kinda cool way to work. Enjoy that machine!
Can't wait for mine to arrive (3+ months since the order already, expecting mine around the 2nd week of January) and I'm gonna return to this video once I get it 👊 Thanks for making me even more excited!
Im so excited for you! You will love it! And thank you for spending time watching my video. I hope it provides great value when your unit arrives. Keep a look out for more videos as my walkthrough on creating patches and tracks will be posting soon!
Hi Kates, I do get a little noise when I fully crank the volume and the drive with compression. Watch your drive levels and maybe boost from the audio interface not the main out of the Perkons. I wouldn't call this box noisy but it has it when you drive it hard. Let me know what you find. Thanks.
I own one and I love it but I completely disagree...They will definitely go down in price. Also, they are already working on a v2 and unless Erica completely ruins it, which I doubt, this one will be inevitably left behind.
@3:48 you mentioned you can change the behavior of the mutes. I've looked through the manual and can't seem to find that explained? Would love if I did not have to shift + mute so curious
A great thoughts/impressions video! I want to get a new drum machine soon, appreciate this! I'm not worried about the droning myself lol (I don't "drone" because I will get bored very quickly and just fall asleep hahaaha) 🙌🐀
Haha yeah I hear you! The drones could also be used in the background to add atmosphere as well. Like strange modulated noises that pass through in a subtle way. What's interesting is this machine may lead you in to areas you never thought you would care to venture. Some of the aggressive sounds have grown on me and have found a tasteful place in some of my sets. Hope you get one and enjoy it as much as I do. Thank you for the kind comments!!!
DR2 looks like a fun one. A bit more in the box but not by much and offers more goodies. Perks is raw and needs those sends for my taste. But feels quality from top to bottom and begs to be played all day.
@@williamwallace6508 Would love to try the modor. Maybe someday if Perfect Circuit has one on display i can test drive it. I will say this box seems to check all the boxes for me.
Thanks for the replies. Got it figured out. Everything OK just me being a noob. It an excellent bit of kit. I sold my Pulsar to get this and I'm pleased I did. More accessible. Running the tempo from Angela's new work out. Then into ableton. Works at treat.
Hi Vitja, I use the sends on all the Voices into my Sound Card. I have 8 channels. I send the main out from Perkons to a master channel, then all the sends go into separate tracks with FX. I can then have the dry signal on the main and all the FX send tracks are accessible by turning the send knob on each voice. This is pretty typical for my setup. I hope that makes sense. I'm not a very good teacher but message me if you have any more questions.
hey bro, cool thoughts vid. I have had one for about 1 month and half, and I have not had much time to play it. I look at it a thousand times a day and want to jam on it. I had a serious problem with it syncing with me midi out of Logic and finally contacted support at Erica, and they sent me the new firmware that had came out days before, super lucky. and that fixed the midi problem so if any of you have midi issues, you probably have the old firmware. so ya , I've just been working on jobs and not much time to jam on it. maybe I will later tonight I hope. I hope you make a few vids showing some of the tricks you have learned because there are a few weird concepts to rewire the brain to.
Thanks for watching! Glad they fixed that problem. Hopefully you get some time to finally jam on it! This machine is so inviting to play. I will be putting out some workflow videos soon, so stay tuned! Have fun jamming on it! And thanks for the comment!
Thanks for the comment! Its a bit strange at first but really makes sense when you save a couple times. And you can change the behavior if you dont like the default work flow with Patterns and Kits.
Im absolutely trying to find my drummachine: 1: No menu dive 2: 1 function per knob 3: very characteristic punches 4: not a lot of twesking till it sounds good 5: no annoying shizzl sounds 6: 4 BD & a snare thats it 7: A volume controle per BD /SD etc what emse is out there? Vermona (pretty metallic) .. Ritmobox.. Lyra... Yomox basically if u get 4 & trigger every single one seperately.. what else?!?! tipps? thanks
Hi! The list you provided is why i landed on the Perkons. I have owned many machines and this one is my favorite thus far. Played way more the first month than any other one. Its just so easy to start up and get stuff going. I really dont know of anything just like the perkons. Thanks for the comment.
Thank you for a great user insight to this machine... the only drawback for me is having to always tune the voices..which is why I left the Dfam..how has your experience been tuning the voices? Many Thanks
You are most welcome!! I sold devices that wouldn't let me tune voices. However, I noticed on voice 3 when i was attempting to tune it, it seemed to step through notes. I could hear an audible step, very subtle. I have to explore more into this but could be why i havent had much of an issue getting it to sit well with my mixes.
Can u Show us some More „soft“ Sounds pls. I dont like this industrial Style But love (dub) Techno. And i think its a Good machine for it. But i am Not sure if the Perkons only can Made this harsh Style. U say it in your video But i would like to Hear it too 😊
@@Noise-Maker I do wish it offered two things: resonance control and 3 more delays. I think for the price, individual delay settings for each voice is not unreasonable and man, would that take it over the top. The way it is, I'd want to run external pedals for that and, well... that's clunky and more money... but doable of course.
The kit-pattern thing/structure reminds me of my TR-8S. In fact, the sequencer on this does have quite a bit in common with the TR-8S. Honestly, when I heard sound demos of this machine when it was first released just a few months ago, I wasn't impressed. However, it looks awesome! Enjoy!!!
Totally agree on the sequencer. I didnt find the dry sounds to be that impressive from the demos either. Once I got to explore I found plenty sounds to my taste. Thanks for the comment!
@Mark Cee You're welcome. Yeah, I guess the sounds are an acquired taste. The good thing is the fact it is a drum "synth" which allows you to shape the tones (voices) to your preference.
It needs 6 voices to be useful to me because you need kick, clap, snare, hi hats, cymbal and rimshot at minimum. That is why I went with a Rytm instead.
Oh a Rytm is way more capable by far. Perkons is a different way to play and really focused on the live aspect. I vibe better with it in a live setting. I had a rytm and found endless possibilities with it. Good purchase, it wont disappoint.
@@Noise-Maker agree and I have several Erica Synths modules for eurorack modular and they are fantastic. If I was playing live the Perkons would be a consideration. I love my Rytm and believe it or not the Virus TI2 synthesizer has amazing drum sounds as well.
It was really helpful to hear you talk about this unit without actually hearing it. I wanted to know someone’s thoughts from a more simple perspective for a long time… Knob per function is absolutely the way to go, and I’m surprised more manufacturers are not doing this. Getting lost in options with small plastic devices is hell on earth for me
Hah! I really couldn't agree more regarding small plastic devices. I am glad they make small plastic devices for the price and mobility. They have a place, but having a nice selection of one knob per function devices are nice to work with. One knob per function devices become limited, but really challenge interface engineers to create something competitive against screen based devices. Screen based devices can almost compare to an endless amount of VST plugins for an engineer. So many options and things you can pack in, but the user must navigate at some point.
Thanks for the comment Tony!!
@@Noise-Maker With the exceptions of the model cycles and model samples of electron (lots of knobs) and maybe deluge (not plastic)
Great description of the stages one traverses with this device. I'm on day 6, and even though it seems simple and it is, for the most part, the complexity of what can be done is definitely something I'm very excited about.
16 steps for each voice and pattern length of 64. The one thing I'd say I would like to see is the ability to program 64 steps, not just 16. Pattern chaining kinda solves this.
Thanks! They have a way for you to chain up some patterns but the implementation seemed strange. I may go back and mess around with it again. I remember it worked fine just not fluid like an Elektron etc. I been using the time divisions to stretch out patterns on certain tracks for now. Kinda cool way to work.
Enjoy that machine!
I'm not afraid of having a bigger unit either, so I agree 😊
Just way more fun! :)
Thanks for the comment!
Yea I’ve been working with a big unit for a long time and it’s always been a pleasure.
Big thumbs up for properly sized gear!
Yes!! Somebody loves us table hog producers :)
Hear that Roland?
Can't wait for mine to arrive (3+ months since the order already, expecting mine around the 2nd week of January) and I'm gonna return to this video once I get it 👊 Thanks for making me even more excited!
Im so excited for you! You will love it! And thank you for spending time watching my video. I hope it provides great value when your unit arrives. Keep a look out for more videos as my walkthrough on creating patches and tracks will be posting soon!
@@Noise-Maker I will keep a look out for more videos, indeed (JUST got the shipping confirmation, woohoo!). Have a creative 2023 mate, keep it up!
@@thosesmallyesterdays Nice!! Waiting is so hard but knowing its coming is awesome!
This machine is so damn elegant. Thats why im drawn to it so much. That blue aint bad either.
Its fantastic for sure! Thanks for the comment!
Love it when people just play such great music on a machine. Glad he’s not just talking all the way through it about things like he doesn’t like mono.
I watched a guy get it to play in stereo with an external effect. Sounded badass.
Yes! That's the only way for me these days. I'm not much of a mono person unless it really needs to be mono for some reason.
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Cant really turn up that loud without gettin noise from the main out.ive got it pluged into my 18i20. Any thoughts
Hi Kates,
I do get a little noise when I fully crank the volume and the drive with compression. Watch your drive levels and maybe boost from the audio interface not the main out of the Perkons. I wouldn't call this box noisy but it has it when you drive it hard.
Let me know what you find.
Thanks.
Turn down the compressor. Or accept that some pieces of gear are noisy - you'd hate playing guitar lol
These things are 100% going to increase in value over the next 20 years. They are the perfect modern non-x0x techno-box. Can't wait to get mine.
I agree and really excited for you! Let me know how you get along with it and feel free to reach out with any questions.
I own one and I love it but I completely disagree...They will definitely go down in price. Also, they are already working on a v2 and unless Erica completely ruins it, which I doubt, this one will be inevitably left behind.
@3:48 you mentioned you can change the behavior of the mutes. I've looked through the manual and can't seem to find that explained? Would love if I did not have to shift + mute so curious
Nvm, I was using my physical manual and the first google hit to PDF is also the older version. Just found the updated manual.
@@pressgangs Ah!! I never opened my hard manual on this. Could have went through the same thing you did. Glad you found the update!
A great thoughts/impressions video! I want to get a new drum machine soon, appreciate this! I'm not worried about the droning myself lol (I don't "drone" because I will get bored very quickly and just fall asleep hahaaha) 🙌🐀
Haha yeah I hear you! The drones could also be used in the background to add atmosphere as well. Like strange modulated noises that pass through in a subtle way.
What's interesting is this machine may lead you in to areas you never thought you would care to venture. Some of the aggressive sounds have grown on me and have found a tasteful place in some of my sets. Hope you get one and enjoy it as much as I do.
Thank you for the kind comments!!!
Modor dr2? very hard decision
DR2 looks like a fun one. A bit more in the box but not by much and offers more goodies. Perks is raw and needs those sends for my taste. But feels quality from top to bottom and begs to be played all day.
@Noise-Maker
Only 4 tracks? Seems limited vs 6 on the modor. Like both though!
@@williamwallace6508 Would love to try the modor. Maybe someday if Perfect Circuit has one on display i can test drive it. I will say this box seems to check all the boxes for me.
@Noise-Maker just ordered one today in the UK. Cost was 1920 USD. Not cheap but what I've been looking for for a while now. Great video btw. 👍
@@williamwallace6508 Enjoy that! Let me know your thoughts after you have a few weeks with it. Love to hear about it.
Thanks for the replies. Got it figured out. Everything OK just me being a noob. It an excellent bit of kit. I sold my Pulsar to get this and I'm pleased I did. More accessible. Running the tempo from Angela's new work out. Then into ableton. Works at treat.
Great to hear! I sold a few bits myself to fund it. Worth it!
Hey! Thanks for this! How are you using sends? Are you running them to fx and from fx to a mixer? I found out that returns are unusable.
Hi Vitja, I use the sends on all the Voices into my Sound Card. I have 8 channels. I send the main out from Perkons to a master channel, then all the sends go into separate tracks with FX. I can then have the dry signal on the main and all the FX send tracks are accessible by turning the send knob on each voice. This is pretty typical for my setup. I hope that makes sense. I'm not a very good teacher but message me if you have any more questions.
hey bro, cool thoughts vid. I have had one for about 1 month and half, and I have not had much time to play it. I look at it a thousand times a day and want to jam on it. I had a serious problem with it syncing with me midi out of Logic and finally contacted support at Erica, and they sent me the new firmware that had came out days before, super lucky. and that fixed the midi problem so if any of you have midi issues, you probably have the old firmware. so ya , I've just been working on jobs and not much time to jam on it. maybe I will later tonight I hope. I hope you make a few vids showing some of the tricks you have learned because there are a few weird concepts to rewire the brain to.
Thanks for watching! Glad they fixed that problem. Hopefully you get some time to finally jam on it! This machine is so inviting to play. I will be putting out some workflow videos soon, so stay tuned!
Have fun jamming on it! And thanks for the comment!
Nice vid. Confused AF about the kits part, but I'll find out tomorrow if I get it 🤡
Thanks for the comment!
Its a bit strange at first but really makes sense when you save a couple times. And you can change the behavior if you dont like the default work flow with Patterns and Kits.
Im absolutely trying to find my drummachine:
1: No menu dive
2: 1 function per knob
3: very characteristic punches
4: not a lot of twesking till it sounds good
5: no annoying shizzl sounds
6: 4 BD & a snare thats it
7: A volume controle per BD /SD
etc
what emse is out there?
Vermona (pretty metallic) .. Ritmobox.. Lyra... Yomox basically if u get 4 & trigger every single one seperately..
what else?!?!
tipps?
thanks
Hi! The list you provided is why i landed on the Perkons. I have owned many machines and this one is my favorite thus far. Played way more the first month than any other one. Its just so easy to start up and get stuff going.
I really dont know of anything just like the perkons.
Thanks for the comment.
Maybe modular? That seems extremely specific.
Try a t1 torso to sequence it and record then. Unlimited fun
I would love to try some day.
perfect circuit just got some in
Finally!
Thank you for a great user insight to this machine... the only drawback for me is having to always tune the voices..which is why I left the Dfam..how has your experience been tuning the voices? Many Thanks
You are most welcome!! I sold devices that wouldn't let me tune voices. However, I noticed on voice 3 when i was attempting to tune it, it seemed to step through notes. I could hear an audible step, very subtle. I have to explore more into this but could be why i havent had much of an issue getting it to sit well with my mixes.
Tune voices? I thought this thing was digital?
@@EarlyMist Digital notes require tuning too - how else would you get a G note if you're on a C?
THIS IS GREAT!
Thank you Keith!!
Love mine
Its a very easy drum machine to love!
Can u Show us some More „soft“ Sounds pls. I dont like this industrial Style But love (dub) Techno. And i think its a Good machine for it. But i am Not sure if the Perkons only can Made this harsh Style. U say it in your video But i would like to Hear it too 😊
Aren! Will do! Hope to have something out soon!
It is a thing of beauty. I’ll never be able to afford one though.
Hopefully this sparks some interest in other designers making a cheaper version.
Iterations? Lol, how about actually shipping the first one out
They are trickling out here and there but will be nice to see them in stock soon. I believe March we should see a big batch.
I don't need a Perkons. But I want a Perkons. I also need a new car soon... hmmmmmm.
😆 Tough choices
@@Noise-Maker I do wish it offered two things: resonance control and 3 more delays. I think for the price, individual delay settings for each voice is not unreasonable and man, would that take it over the top. The way it is, I'd want to run external pedals for that and, well... that's clunky and more money... but doable of course.
The kit-pattern thing/structure reminds me of my TR-8S. In fact, the sequencer on this does have quite a bit in common with the TR-8S.
Honestly, when I heard sound demos of this machine when it was first released just a few months ago, I wasn't impressed. However, it looks awesome! Enjoy!!!
Totally agree on the sequencer. I didnt find the dry sounds to be that impressive from the demos either. Once I got to explore I found plenty sounds to my taste.
Thanks for the comment!
@Mark Cee You're welcome. Yeah, I guess the sounds are an acquired taste. The good thing is the fact it is a drum "synth" which allows you to shape the tones (voices) to your preference.
Imo there arent a lot of especially competent users yet. Its too new.
hells yea, Ive, never seen this b4. Slick buttons huh? Slamming them mutes and triggers.'
Yeah the buttons are quality for sure. Can take some hits, feels solid as like a tank. It really feels the way it looks.
It has too many stupid bugs
It constantly crashes
And Erica synths isn’t helpful at all
Ah man thats a bummer. I hope they fix whatever you where experiencing. I havent had any bugs yet thankfully.
It needs 6 voices to be useful to me because you need kick, clap, snare, hi hats, cymbal and rimshot at minimum. That is why I went with a Rytm instead.
Oh a Rytm is way more capable by far. Perkons is a different way to play and really focused on the live aspect. I vibe better with it in a live setting.
I had a rytm and found endless possibilities with it. Good purchase, it wont disappoint.
@@Noise-Maker agree and I have several Erica Synths modules for eurorack modular and they are fantastic. If I was playing live the Perkons would be a consideration. I love my Rytm and believe it or not the Virus TI2 synthesizer has amazing drum sounds as well.
@@GuitarsAndSynths Oh that Virus can do just about anything. My favorite digital synth. Amazing how good it still is.
agree my live rig is now Virus TI2 and Rytm MK2 and small modular case plus new update to Rytm makes even better @@Noise-Maker