Winston Maxey: The Snedden Creek Mystery

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    Captain Patterson urges anyone who may have seen a young man resembling Winston Maxey in Coos County, Oregon in June or July of 1971 to get in touch at (541)-396-7820 or call the Coos County Sheriff’s Office at (541) 396-7800.
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  • @Khanjikai
    @Khanjikai 4 месяца назад +229

    She did her father proud. May he rest in peace with his name remembered now.

    • @NatureLover-62
      @NatureLover-62 4 месяца назад +9

      @Khanjikai, well said!! I am so impressed by Lori’s tenacity to not let his whereabouts go unanswered and here she has found him and has established a FB page in hopes of finding who and why someone caused her biological father’s death. Lori grew up to be a wonderful woman that yes, her father would be proud of.

  • @daynasafranek7807
    @daynasafranek7807 4 месяца назад +136

    I’m so glad that she never gave up her quest to find her father and I’m so sorry to hear that he passed away. Rest in peace, Winston ❤️🕊️

  • @scotlandshistory
    @scotlandshistory 4 месяца назад +129

    Poor Winston. He never really lived a life. Well presented as always DC.

  • @naomisgram1
    @naomisgram1 4 месяца назад +107

    My daughter was adopted at 3 days old in 1981, she was also born in Idaho and her mother also stayed at the same home for unwed mothers as this lady did. Her Mom was 16, her father 18. She knew that a marriage with him, especially at their age would never work out, so she made the tough decision for adoption. Luckily, the agency through which we adopted kept in touch with us and also her birth mom, and when my daughter was 17, they met. This answered a lot of questions for my daughter, she found out that her birth mom married someone else later and she has 3 younger half siblings to her delight. She also has met her birth father although she hasn’t kept in touch with him. We enjoy a nice relationship with her birth family.

    • @Bee-ly4gx
      @Bee-ly4gx 4 месяца назад +8

      Beautiful story.

    • @aluvrianne
      @aluvrianne 4 месяца назад +2

      Nice!

    • @juanrosales7353
      @juanrosales7353 2 месяца назад +2

      What a mature mentality you have, Naomi, because you let your adopted daughter to know her birth mother. God bless your life and take care of you!

  • @Dr.Gunsmith
    @Dr.Gunsmith 4 месяца назад +107

    What a good looking handsome young man, i feel really sorry for Winston he never got the chance for a life and to meet his daughter. Heartbreaking.

    • @shanthicleckler7060
      @shanthicleckler7060 4 месяца назад +2

      ❤ The lead actor in Saltburn looks just like him!!!!

    • @shanthicleckler7060
      @shanthicleckler7060 3 месяца назад

      😬 I do!

    • @fredalwatkins4506
      @fredalwatkins4506 3 месяца назад +2

      He was small, young and good looking. His good looks probably got him into trouble. Probably hitch hiking and picked up by a pervert. That would be why his pants weren't on

  • @DanStar87
    @DanStar87 4 месяца назад +89

    How bittersweet 😢 his daughter came looking for her dad, and after all the searching, a deceased young man gets his identity back and his daughter (in a way ) it's incredibly sad but it's got a silver lining, hopefully he wasn't murdered and it was some tragic incident, I hope his daughter finds the answers!
    Btw her father was incredibly handsome 😮

    • @MonicaPage-j2u
      @MonicaPage-j2u 4 месяца назад +8

      Wasn't he so sad so young 😢

  • @jamiemohan2049
    @jamiemohan2049 4 месяца назад +108

    It's ironic that he was called 'frog' boy as he was classically very handsome. He could have been an actor or model.

    • @IdahoRanchGirl
      @IdahoRanchGirl 4 месяца назад +8

      Kind of like the frog that is actually a prince in fairy tales

    • @marjayasmr
      @marjayasmr 4 месяца назад +5

      Well they didn’t know that when naming him. He was so badly decomposed.

    • @shannonmcneely9034
      @shannonmcneely9034 4 месяца назад +5

      Very handsome young man. R.I.P Winstin. You are not forgotten. Y I u have a daughter tat lives you because blood screams out to blood .

    • @jamiemohan2049
      @jamiemohan2049 4 месяца назад

      @@marjayasmr yep, I'm aware of that. Poor boy.

    • @akiraasmr3002
      @akiraasmr3002 4 месяца назад +2

      Chill out though he was underaged

  • @saml8967
    @saml8967 4 месяца назад +28

    That was a very sad case. Thankfully Winston was finally identified and his biological daughter knows who he was.

  • @magnus1001
    @magnus1001 4 месяца назад +269

    Very sad that Winston's life ended-possibly by homicide- at the age of 16 but to have law enforcement refer to him as 'frog boy' is both rude and insulting. Thanks to his daughter he isn't a John Doe anymore. RIP young wanderer.

    • @VioletJoy
      @VioletJoy 4 месяца назад +67

      The explanation was to give him a name that would get attention and not be forgotten. The detective that gave him the name said that he was hoping that if it didn't get solved during his career, the name would keep the attention of subsequent detectives. It wasn't chosen as an insult. It was chosen because they cared.

    • @alpyhaWQFwef
      @alpyhaWQFwef 4 месяца назад +10

      Seconding this comment.

    • @magnus1001
      @magnus1001 4 месяца назад +10

      @@VioletJoy That makes me feel a little better. I was just imagining his daughter wondering who her birth Father was all those years, excited to meet him finally and then finding out he died as a child, barely 16 and for years was a John Doe known only as 'frog boy'. I would have called him 'The Snedden Creek Adventurer' or something. Anyway I am glad DC covered this case and that he has his actual name back. I had never heard of this case before this. Cheers.

    • @maxb4074
      @maxb4074 4 месяца назад +6

      Whats wrong with frogs?

    • @jamesmckuen
      @jamesmckuen 4 месяца назад +6

      When a body is left in the water it bloats. Not sensitive but likely accurate unfortunately.

  • @SerenDipity64711
    @SerenDipity64711 4 месяца назад +12

    Bless Lori on her continued search for answers. Beautiful and with so much life force, rest in peace Winston❤

  • @DamianMaisano
    @DamianMaisano 4 месяца назад +6

    I really appreciate cases like this being brought to light. It’s likely it’ll never be solved but we’ll never know if they are buried

  • @fokkdritt
    @fokkdritt 4 месяца назад +58

    Forever one of the best female voices in true crime 💪🏻

    • @NannupTiger
      @NannupTiger 4 месяца назад +9

      @@fokkdritt Agree. So many of my favourite true crime channels are British or Irish 😊

  • @morrighaninspain7258
    @morrighaninspain7258 4 месяца назад +13

    Thank you DC for sharing this sad story ❤

  • @kskssxoxskskss2189
    @kskssxoxskskss2189 4 месяца назад +33

    So amazing how this science can bring families together. But the hearts still have to be open. Simple genetics will never be enough.

  • @tevman69
    @tevman69 4 месяца назад +32

    RIP, Winston.

  • @aluvrianne
    @aluvrianne 4 месяца назад +10

    RE: Case Names--
    I can tell you as a medicolegal death investigator (deputy coroner) that something beige like Sneddon Creek John Doe is long and indistinguishable and isn't going to stick in people's minds like a shorter more descriptive nickname. You don't have to like the practice, but there could be several Sneddon Creek John Does, however, there's only one Frog Boy. In all the official paperwork, he'd have gone by a case number, something like OR-CBSO4039-1971. Given his physical description, they could have nicknamed him Fabian or Hollywood, something that rolls off the tongue faster and is easier to remember than OR-CBSO4039-1971. Names like Frog Boy (unless the press get ahold of them or come up with the nickname on their own) generally aren't meant for pubic consumption either. It's a like doctors and nurses who refer to the Umbilical Hernia in room 319.
    An example of this in action is the teaching cases I remember the most from graduate school that were very distinctive (the guy who got eaten by a bear) or they'd been given names over the years. Here's a few I can recall right here, right now, off the top of my head: 1) Iman, F, Peoples of India, 24-36, slight enamel hypoplasia. Cause/Manner of death is unknown. She came into the teaching collection from Carolina Biological Supply or similar company.
    2) Paco, M, Caucasian (Hispanic) 35-45, sharp force trauma to the right zygoma, blindingly white veneers on his teeth, probable victim of drug cartel violence. He was found in an empty boxcar by railroad security.
    3) Chompers, M, Peoples of India, 20-28, is a traditional hanging skeleton. His bones didn't tell us anything about his cause of death, but, he's got a spring-wired mandible that if you're not careful when examining his mouth, he will bite. He's also from a Carolina Biological Supply or similar company.
    4) I named Biohazard Bob. M, 20s, white man buried near Helena, Montana, pre-1900 and was waterlogged for some of the time he was underground. Bob and his grave goods are overrun with mold, which is a biohazard. Cause/Manner of death unknown.
    All of these individuals have case numbers and I'd have to get into my records to look those up, but 20 yrs later, I remember their nicknames and the details come to me almost instantaneously. I can't do that if I was going off the case roster. It would take time to go through the collection and I'd have to be in the lab to clap eyes on said cases and briefly reassess them before I'd remember details like those above. I have a proposition for the pearl clutchers outraged that those investigators didn't run things in line with your delicate sensibilities. Go to school, get the training, spend time in the trenches, then we can talk about the temporary monikers given to the nameless.

  • @sallykohorst8803
    @sallykohorst8803 4 месяца назад +10

    Wow what a great story and thanks for sharing.

  • @Language_Guru
    @Language_Guru 4 месяца назад +22

    Wow! That is a convoluted case. I hope it is possible to find out how Winston met his end.

    • @akiraasmr3002
      @akiraasmr3002 4 месяца назад

      Yes the pants being found near by but not on him makes me think he was either raped or sexually assaulted and then killed and left in the water to decompose or they moved his body 5 weeks after he died so nobody would find him and put his pants near by him.

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  • @grandchildM
    @grandchildM 4 месяца назад +1

    I wish your uploads were longer! They’re really good

  • @jenniferlonnes7420
    @jenniferlonnes7420 4 месяца назад +10

    I'm glad she found out identity of someone important affecting her life.

  • @seandelap8587
    @seandelap8587 4 месяца назад +25

    I don't know how you could be so at ease about a family member suddenly leaving home and losing contact i mean regardless of how close you are to them you would surely show concern about their wellbeing at least but Winston's family seemed to remain casual about it all maybe that's just the way they dealt with things but it seems a strange attitude to take imo

    • @magnus1001
      @magnus1001 4 месяца назад +5

      I know, he was a child. My 2 oldest sons (twins) are just now 14 and they couldn't survive on their own in our backyard much less roaming the country.

    • @JayJay32186
      @JayJay32186 4 месяца назад +4

      I think we shouldn’t be too hard on them because it was a totally different culture/society back then. We’d consider him a baby now, but at that time he would have been considered grown, and he had run away many times before. He may have even said he was leaving and not coming back. He did stop by to say goodbye to his sister, so everyone knew he was leaving.

    • @magnus1001
      @magnus1001 4 месяца назад +3

      @@JayJay32186 I thought about what you said and it could be the case because the Vietnam War was still going and young men lied about their age to join sometimes. We have 6 young boys 7-14. To me my 14 year old twins are still little kids.

    • @H1ST0RYWriter
      @H1ST0RYWriter 4 месяца назад +2

      ​@magnus1001 happened before the information age. Losing track of someone, even a family memeber, was probably easier to accept when you didn't have cell phones for quick contact or social media to check in.

    • @ValleyoftheRogue
      @ValleyoftheRogue 4 месяца назад +4

      @@JayJay32186 No. I was alive back then. Sixteen-year-olds were NOT considered adults. He was a minor then. He was in NO way an adult. I don't believe one word of the cover story by the family. He was kicked out and left to fend for himself.

  • @moomyung9231
    @moomyung9231 4 месяца назад +29

    He may not have been murdered. A disproportionate number of young men die by drowning. (All over and throughout time this is true). Young men take more risks and don't tend to think of water as dangerous. Regardless, I hope she gets answers. Someone had to have known him back then.

    • @MidnightMessagesandMusings
      @MidnightMessagesandMusings 4 месяца назад

      You are right. He wasn't murdered. It was a tragic accident where he tripped, fell, hit his head, was knocked unconscious, and then fell into the water. This fall resulted in his death because he basically drowned. It's a shame because he was young and he did want to change his life around.
      #winstonmaxey

    • @ViolentRainbow
      @ViolentRainbow 4 месяца назад +8

      Yeah he totally went swimming in leather pants and a turtleneck sweater o_o

    • @ValleyoftheRogue
      @ValleyoftheRogue 4 месяца назад +1

      He wasn't murdered. It was either drowning or exposure. It can get very cold in that part of the country with the wind and so forth.

    • @WonderWhatHappened
      @WonderWhatHappened 4 месяца назад +4

      @@ViolentRainbow Or crossing a log over a stream, or standing on a rock in the river and fell in. Not all who drown are swimming.

    • @ViolentRainbow
      @ViolentRainbow 4 месяца назад +6

      @@WonderWhatHappened Just wandering around in the woods in leather pants and a turtleneck 👍🏻 Total hiking clothes.

  • @aubreyleonae4108
    @aubreyleonae4108 4 месяца назад +41

    I lived there many years ago. A lot of strange things happened in the forests around there. Bad things that folks get away with too frequently. Places you knew you didn't go.

    • @iamsherlocked345
      @iamsherlocked345 4 месяца назад +3

      I always wonder about those areas …. Way sketchy.

    • @aluvrianne
      @aluvrianne 4 месяца назад +3

      My guess is that he stumbled into a pot grow or biker meth lab and was murdered so he wouldn't go to the cops.

    • @annfreels3071
      @annfreels3071 4 месяца назад

      @@aluvriannedid they know about meth in 1971?

    • @aluvrianne
      @aluvrianne 4 месяца назад

      @@annfreels3071 Oh, yeah. It was invented by the Nazis to keep their tankers and pilots awake for days on end. After WWII, it got a foothold with outlaw motorcycle gangs that started in the San Bernardino/Riverside, CA, area. Biker Crank is what made the Hell's Angels and it spread with them as gangs expanded into the rest of the US.

    • @fabergeegg1722
      @fabergeegg1722 4 месяца назад +1

      I have read so many true crime cases happening in Washington and Oregan happing in the 1960s-1970s.There were a lot of serial killers and murderers living around there back then. Somone who grew up in Washington told me there were weirdos in those two states big time. She said most likely those two states attracted killers because you could live very obscurely. There were a lot of serial killers and murderers living around there back then. This victim was good looking, young and alone. I think a lunatic would have observed him as an opportunity. However, maybe the kid just had a freak accident because the forest can be dangerous if you are not careful.

  • @annettejones7777
    @annettejones7777 4 месяца назад +4

    Frog Boy seems like such a disrespectful thing to call the deceased.

  • @CenturyHomeProject
    @CenturyHomeProject 4 месяца назад +42

    He was a very handsome young man. He should have been able to have his whole life ahead of him.

    • @ValleyoftheRogue
      @ValleyoftheRogue 4 месяца назад +1

      He was literally a kid-not a "young man."

    • @sc3pt1c4L
      @sc3pt1c4L 4 месяца назад

      @@ValleyoftheRogue a kid is 'literally' a young goat.

    • @ValleyoftheRogue
      @ValleyoftheRogue 4 месяца назад

      @@sc3pt1c4L He was not an adult. The word "kid" has more than one meaning. Your post is an epic fail.

    • @sc3pt1c4L
      @sc3pt1c4L 4 месяца назад +2

      @@ValleyoftheRogue Oh no, I have been judged by you, how will I ever go on? The phrase 'young man' also has more than one meaning, in this case, referring to an adolescent male that has gone through puberty. Since this male had fathered a child of his own, I think we can safely assume he had reached that point. Perhaps you shouldn't take things so "literally" then you wouldn't find such mundane things "epic". Incidentally, you might notice that the original poster amassed 37 likes to your solitary 'like', which, given your 'character', I can well imagine you awarded to yourself. Congratulations.

  • @patriciapadilla2022
    @patriciapadilla2022 4 месяца назад +4

    I understand what she went through I never knew who my father was I started asking questions when I was 12 years old about who my father was only to find out 12 years later that he had died a couple years prior. But I did go to south side of Chicago from Washington DC and I was able to meet his mother and his younger brother, my uncle and my grandmother. I was 24 years old and she treated me like a little girl and tuck me in and she was such a sweet lady mom when I had a great time. And he was a nice guy told me he said I look just like my father and I was his only child and we never knew each other. It's sad when you don't know someone and you want so desperately to meet them only to find out you missed them by a few years . People need to know where they come from it helps you determine where you're going

  • @sandeesimons6045
    @sandeesimons6045 4 месяца назад +20

    Now- where in the world is MY father? James Erwin Callahan, born August 1944 and lived in East Des Moines, Iowa. I had my heritage done through DNA and found 2 sisters, unknown. They are looking for our father too. None of us have ever met him.😢

    • @naomisgram1
      @naomisgram1 4 месяца назад +4

      😢 I hope you can find some information, frustrating I’m sure 😢

    • @aluvrianne
      @aluvrianne 4 месяца назад +3

      Most people aren't in more than one commercial database. So if you've done the Ancestry test, do 23&Me as well b/c your DNA relatives can be very different on each service. Good luck!

    • @EugeneKennedy-xv1tq
      @EugeneKennedy-xv1tq 4 месяца назад

      Contact long lost family.

    • @hannahthaplanna
      @hannahthaplanna 4 месяца назад

      @@aluvriannealso GEDmatch, the service they mentioned in the video. You can upload your DNA from any of the major companies, making it possible to find people who tested with other companies and you can also choose to share with law enforcement, which would help in cases like this one.

    • @aluvrianne
      @aluvrianne 4 месяца назад +2

      @@hannahthaplanna I've had my profile uploaded over there for years. I love, love, love that this dataset is open to investigators. It's one of those things that even 20 years ago seemed like it was out of a scifi novel.

  • @alanleemaxwell831
    @alanleemaxwell831 4 месяца назад +5

    Such a sad story, I'm glad she found out who her father was, I wish the story had a happy ending for them both. God bless, Winston...🙏🇬🇧❤️

    • @naomisgram1
      @naomisgram1 4 месяца назад +2

      Yes! It gave her a sense closure I’m sure. I hope some day they find out if he was murdered or it was an accident 😢

    • @alanleemaxwell831
      @alanleemaxwell831 4 месяца назад +2

      @@naomisgram1 yes, they deserve to know the truth....

  • @WadeRaney-vv5oi
    @WadeRaney-vv5oi 4 месяца назад +2

    A Good Presentation as usual 👋,R.I.P Winston🙏

  • @lialok2674
    @lialok2674 4 месяца назад +11

    I feel bad for Lori, not having the chance to get to know her
    biological father and only to find out later that he has passed away, possibly due to
    homicide, Winston was so young at the time of his death,
    l hope that he is at peace, RIP
    Winston.🙁🙏

    • @ValleyoftheRogue
      @ValleyoftheRogue 4 месяца назад +2

      I seriously doubt he was murdered. He likely died from exposure. I doubt he knew one thing about trying to live on his own.

  • @Sanae95
    @Sanae95 4 месяца назад +23

    His parents didn't care about him being gone and that's so sad

    • @Mrs.TJTaylor
      @Mrs.TJTaylor 4 месяца назад +5

      Some children are so difficult that they wear their parents down. I think he was that kind of child, according to the story. And they had other children to consider. I knew a kid like that when I was growing up.

    • @alphooey
      @alphooey 4 месяца назад +4

      They probably did but he’d left saying he was leaving. He just didn’t come back. Back the trying to find someone that didn’t want to be found was difficult. If they had gone to the police they wouldn’t have done much as he voluntarily left.
      Also you have no idea how much heartache they been through or if they’d tried to find him.

    • @ValleyoftheRogue
      @ValleyoftheRogue 4 месяца назад +2

      He was kicked out of the house after he got his girlfriend pregnant. Not unheard of back then. I do not believe the story he never knew, and, still a minor, decided to go to a nothing town called Coos Bay, Oregon, to make his way in the world. That is a cover story, and it is too bad his daughter believes it.

    • @atlanticblue2665
      @atlanticblue2665 4 месяца назад

      ​@@ValleyoftheRogue Perhaps the girlfriends parents killed him...

  • @SnarkyLady
    @SnarkyLady 2 месяца назад +1

    Well done. 🌺

  • @karenk3458
    @karenk3458 4 месяца назад +8

    Thankfully, she went looking for her father as would likely still would've been unidentified😢😮! RIP!

  • @daleesutherland7223
    @daleesutherland7223 4 месяца назад +5

    Good job,well presented case

  • @henkdegroot5872
    @henkdegroot5872 4 месяца назад +15

    De laatste conclusie in deze aangrijpende video luidt in het Nederlands: je moet aan de boom blijven schudden dan kan zelfs na vijftig jaar speuren en nooit opgeven de zaak toch worden opgelost.....

  • @JoJoHOPPE-i7j
    @JoJoHOPPE-i7j 3 месяца назад +2

    There is something very wrong with a family that doesn't even care enough about a CHILD to file a missing person report. Then they didn't even want his ashes?! I don't think Lori will find very much love in THAT family!

  • @judygarretson3255
    @judygarretson3255 4 месяца назад +11

    Been to Coos Bay many times. Never heard about this tragedy. Than you.

    • @MsAdventure531
      @MsAdventure531 4 месяца назад +1

      Home of Steve “Pre” Prefontaine

    • @ValleyoftheRogue
      @ValleyoftheRogue 4 месяца назад +1

      @@MsAdventure531 It is where he is buried also, at Sunset Memorial Park.

  • @Bigohno0
    @Bigohno0 4 месяца назад +34

    Juveniles "relocating" horses between properties sounds like a polite way of saying *_STEALING_*
    😂😂😅😊

  • @Dr.Gunsmith
    @Dr.Gunsmith 4 месяца назад +8

    So pleased this case is getting more traction now, as not much about it out in the world.

  • @pamelasimone5084
    @pamelasimone5084 4 месяца назад

    Lori’s devotion to finding her father is inspiring. Her dedication not only helped her find him but also solved the mystery about his death and returned his identity.
    With the same resolve, I’m sure she will find his killer.

  • @SpicyTexan64
    @SpicyTexan64 4 месяца назад +60

    I notice it's always men getting these really great names like frog boy and septic tank Sam. Meanwhile, women are Princess Rose Doe and Angel Wings.

    • @fafnyrslair
      @fafnyrslair 4 месяца назад +1

      Right? This is absolutely awful. We need to do better

    • @jamiemohan2049
      @jamiemohan2049 4 месяца назад +4

      'Great', I know u likely r being sarcastic but they are v rude.

    • @thechaz83
      @thechaz83 4 месяца назад +11

      @jamie, he was merely relaying an observation, speaking what he believes to be the truth. How is that disrespectful?

    • @MissSeaSea
      @MissSeaSea 4 месяца назад

      So sad and horrible

    • @ladyseeker2927
      @ladyseeker2927 4 месяца назад

      ​@@thechaz83 imagine the havoc if they call a Jane Doe something like Shore twisted branch

  • @alienmoosestudios
    @alienmoosestudios 4 месяца назад +1

    Hi new subscriber here 😁
    Thanks for sharing this very interesting video 🤔🤔🤔

  • @SunShine-qk4rb
    @SunShine-qk4rb 4 месяца назад +3

    I’m very happy to see this case was solved

  • @eudaenomic
    @eudaenomic 3 месяца назад

    Oddly the first thought when "he looked like a frog", I thought he would be nicknamed Frenchie". I'm glad the issue was resolved. Thank you for your post.

  • @Tracy-tm9ew
    @Tracy-tm9ew 4 месяца назад +5

    Made me tear up. Wow!

  • @crystalball82
    @crystalball82 4 месяца назад +4

    Poor Winston, his parents didn’t care. And his daughter lost her biological father and also the adoptive one…so tragic

  • @2anthro
    @2anthro 3 месяца назад +4

    That was a beautiful boy.

  • @kathydavenport4422
    @kathydavenport4422 3 месяца назад +1

    Thank our Father in Heaven for the love of our children. Rest In Peace. Blessings Be.

  • @jessyjulie5506
    @jessyjulie5506 4 месяца назад +9

    Must be weird to tell people your dad died when he was 16.

    • @dante6985
      @dante6985 4 месяца назад

      Doesn't really make a difference tbh, whether 16 or 30 he's just as non-existent.

  • @pamorama
    @pamorama 4 месяца назад +2

    Such a sad story. He was a very handsome man man and I can understand why his parents didn't file a missing persons report! I hope the mystery is solved.

  • @ivia_ol8356
    @ivia_ol8356 4 месяца назад +7

    Keep in mind folks, children don't run away from happy homes.

  • @Laura-i2r9r
    @Laura-i2r9r 4 месяца назад +3

    A Handsome boy . A terrible shame someone had it in for him and did this to him . He didn’t get a chance to know his baby girl . Very tragic😢

  • @Boo-dawg.
    @Boo-dawg. 4 месяца назад +7

    Winston was a cutie.
    I understand the name frog boy because of the way humans get extremely bloated after being dead. It's gross but a fact. But I don't think frog boy was an appropriate way to describe him. People can be so insensitive and don't think twice about how the families feel.

  • @poseysalsman
    @poseysalsman 4 месяца назад +5

    Poor young man 😢. He'd be a senior citizen now, more kids and grandkids of his own. But he never made it that far 😢. Some evil thing befell him and took his life away. He should have been living, laughing, loving, learning and being happy.
    Not in some filthy water and named "frog boy". Gone far too soon, rest easy pal...😢

  • @randyhebbebusche3644
    @randyhebbebusche3644 4 месяца назад +2

    Sad story but at least the information gave some closure.

  • @WVgrl59
    @WVgrl59 2 месяца назад +1

    Since he was just 16 when his daughter, Lori, was born (a month after his death), it might have been a family member of the baby's mother who killed him.

  • @wisjoh1
    @wisjoh1 4 месяца назад

    Quite touching and
    Fascinating ! ❤

  • @laurametheny1008
    @laurametheny1008 4 месяца назад +1

    Thank you DC🙏🏼💔🕊️

  • @prima-luce
    @prima-luce 4 месяца назад +19

    i wonder if poor Winston was being abused at home? they call it “rebellion,” but it just seems unlikely a child would run away from home several times simply because they don’t like their parents’ rules. it’s just so bizarre the parents didn’t seem concerned about their missing underage child.

    • @iamsherlocked345
      @iamsherlocked345 4 месяца назад +5

      I was thinking the same …. Not every case is just a so called runaway.

    • @ValleyoftheRogue
      @ValleyoftheRogue 4 месяца назад +1

      They all deny it, but it is pretty clear he was kicked out of the house upon finding out his girlfriend was pregnant. He didn't just decide one day he was going to go to Coos Bay-who in the world would EVER want to go there unless he wanted to meet track great Steve Prefontaine-for "adventure." That is simply ridiculous especially given his age.

    • @ValleyoftheRogue
      @ValleyoftheRogue 4 месяца назад +2

      @@iamsherlocked345 He was kicked out after he got the girlfriend pregnant and he didn't want to marry her because of his age. Not unheard of, especially during that era.

  • @mchrome3366
    @mchrome3366 4 месяца назад +1

    Great job of the narrator in keeping my interest to this story. Thanks

  • @seandelap8587
    @seandelap8587 4 месяца назад +12

    Why didn't Winston's parents report him missing and why would they just have assumed that he ran away from home and joined a circus or whatever i mean they were his parents why didn't they enquire further about his whereabouts and file a missing person's report

    • @baxtersmom279
      @baxtersmom279 4 месяца назад +2

      Lots of kids ran away from home during that time. Counter culture. Also, parents did believe stranger danger was a thing. Not an excuse, just once possible explanation

    • @Sanae95
      @Sanae95 4 месяца назад +4

      That's what kept bugging me about this case i mean thats their child even if he was a rebellious teenager he's still their child

    • @baxtersmom279
      @baxtersmom279 4 месяца назад +2

      @@Sanae95 oh I agree with you. I don’t understand either, I just think things were a little different late 60s, early 70s.

    • @jamiemohan2049
      @jamiemohan2049 4 месяца назад +4

      My granddad had a cousin or uncle that vanished at 14, his whole family just assumed he moved fo England. I don't know his name and my granddads 90 odd year old cousin told me this in person. She acted like he did move but just didn't tell anyone ...I personally suspect something worse. People were really weird back then. Who knows how many people who 'moved away' or 'ran away', were simply murdered ...

    • @ValleyoftheRogue
      @ValleyoftheRogue 4 месяца назад +1

      @@baxtersmom279 He didn't run away. He was thrown out by his parents.

  • @badguitar5653
    @badguitar5653 4 месяца назад +4

    Why would a 16 year old boy in 1971, while traveling, dye his hair a different color? Guys of that era didn't dye their hair unless they were trying to hide. Something odd there.

  • @WoodlandT
    @WoodlandT 4 месяца назад +1

    So much shady stuff happened and still happens in that part of the country. I’m from fairly near there and the area definitely has a reputation. That being said, it’s also an extremely rugged and potentially dangerous environment. People have disappeared in the Pacific Northwest for as long as anyone can remember, from both natural and unnatural causes. RIP Winston

  • @Chrissy-j6v
    @Chrissy-j6v 4 месяца назад +20

    Dark curiosities, I like your channel. You do a very good job with this. Yes, I agree with the other commenters here. It's very disrespectful to call this young missing boy frog boy. Call him young John Doe from Sneddon creek or something. Sounds nicer. Frog Boy makes him sound like an attraction at a vintage Coney Island Freak show. At 10:02 he was actually a very cute boy! Thanks for the upload.

    • @albtckl
      @albtckl 4 месяца назад +4

      She's reporting the story the way it was recorded. Geeze you guys need to get over yourselves 🙄

    • @Chrissy-j6v
      @Chrissy-j6v 4 месяца назад +2

      @@albtckl Yes, I know. I am NOT blaming the narrator. But the person first calling the missing boy "Frog Boy!"

  • @valeriemarott1923
    @valeriemarott1923 4 месяца назад +5

    Uhhhh, the digital reconstruction looks nothing like the pics of Winston!

    • @peteraviation6867
      @peteraviation6867 3 месяца назад

      It does look similar. The most changeable thing is the nose. All they have would be “straight nose”. But not like he had IRL. So they ended with longer nose, that’s all.

  • @Prayandrepent
    @Prayandrepent 4 месяца назад +6

    I know the void of never knowing your biological parent ,my dad was murdered by the time I was old enough to go and meet him. My mother made the decision not to let me and my sister know him,she played God with our lives, I resent her to this day, so by the time I was old enough it was to late,he was murdered, she forbade us to see him even when we were of age,so the first time I saw him it was at his funeral, after that my mother didn't speak to me for quite sometime, I grew up in Oregon and now live in Idaho so this kind of hit home for me. So Lori, i feel your void. I'm so sorry for your loss. It's a hole that will never be filled 😊, God bless you, sweetheart .

    • @IdahoRanchGirl
      @IdahoRanchGirl 4 месяца назад +1

      Hi fellow Idahoan! I live off hwy 12 in a tiny town!

  • @CheriHammer-Sullivan
    @CheriHammer-Sullivan 4 месяца назад +9

    Winston's parents look so very familiar that I'm sending this account to my sister and another friend who were in the Boise area at this time. I will comment again if we learn more.

  • @fairydogmother2752
    @fairydogmother2752 4 месяца назад +1

    Poor boy his life ended before he even got to live one. I feel like he felt very lost and alone in life, still just a boy but was ready and willing to become a man and father.

  • @bric9244
    @bric9244 4 месяца назад +3

    Rest in peace Winston. You are missed ✌️

  • @gaylereid8264
    @gaylereid8264 4 месяца назад

    This is excellent ❣️

  • @MissSeaSea
    @MissSeaSea 4 месяца назад +5

    She looked just like her Daddy, so terribly sad! I pray they find his killer

    • @ValleyoftheRogue
      @ValleyoftheRogue 4 месяца назад

      They never will because he wasn't murdered.

  • @eddo1983
    @eddo1983 4 месяца назад +24

    He had a kid at age 16? Damn

  • @christolbert4628
    @christolbert4628 26 дней назад

    Wow, you can really tell the resemblance of them from the photo. Rip, Wint. 🙏

  • @maricelavancena9469
    @maricelavancena9469 4 месяца назад +5

    No closure until she finds out who took away her father's life

  • @SeventhSwell
    @SeventhSwell 4 месяца назад +4

    So... where was her biological mother's father when Winston was killed? I could see him getting upset about his daughter getting knocked up at 15.

    • @ValleyoftheRogue
      @ValleyoftheRogue 4 месяца назад +5

      And of course he was kicked out of his own house by his parents upon the news. They all knew about it, including Winston. The story given doesn't pass the smell test. I was alive then and know how parents handled things like this.

  • @maddie8415
    @maddie8415 4 месяца назад +1

    Really sad that NCMEC refused to put him in their database because there was no missing person's report...because his parents never reported him missing! It would seem that would be even more reason to include him, he had obviously gone missing as a 16 year old. That said, I'm glad that Lori was able to make some headway through other avenues.

  • @thegatesofdawn...1386
    @thegatesofdawn...1386 4 месяца назад +8

    Winston met a tragic end. I think he was a handsome young boy.
    God knows what happened.

  • @sherrythompson2035
    @sherrythompson2035 3 месяца назад +1

    RIP LITTLE WINT 🥀

  • @IdBertParks
    @IdBertParks 4 месяца назад

    God bless you, Lori. Proud of you. Gene

  • @JillMorgan-b7y
    @JillMorgan-b7y 3 месяца назад +1

    How disrespectful. Calling him "Frog Boy".

  • @cherrycoke6253
    @cherrycoke6253 4 месяца назад +24

    The name is memorable, but being labelled frogboy was disrespectful. So I'm glad that he regained his true identity. Plus, it's difficult to imagine how someone pictured him as a frog when he was discovered, but I'll take their word for it.

    • @margaridono
      @margaridono 4 месяца назад +7

      Such a handsome boy labelled a frog.....so shame.

    • @VioletJoy
      @VioletJoy 4 месяца назад +5

      The detective explained that the name would get attention and not be forgotten. We'll probably never forget it.

    • @NannupTiger
      @NannupTiger 4 месяца назад +8

      Frogs are awesome animals. I don't see the disrespect..

    • @jamiemohan2049
      @jamiemohan2049 4 месяца назад +1

      Yep, very ironic as he was actually very handsome when alive.

    • @jamiemohan2049
      @jamiemohan2049 4 месяца назад +1

      ​@VioletJoy oh please, that is just an excuse they make up.

  • @auntbarbara5576
    @auntbarbara5576 4 месяца назад

    Thank you.

  • @rhondamcewananderson3968
    @rhondamcewananderson3968 4 месяца назад +3

    DC always so good...🌹❤️

  • @Dharma_Awakening
    @Dharma_Awakening 4 месяца назад

    The psychology behind this is just mind-blowing. What are your thoughts on how they rationalized their actions?

  • @xcel007
    @xcel007 4 месяца назад +6

    Liking and commenting for the algorithm

    • @ShirleeKnott
      @ShirleeKnott 4 месяца назад +3

      replying for the algorithm oh liked video and your comment for it too!

  • @Mykee1997
    @Mykee1997 2 месяца назад +1

    So disrespectful, calling this child frog boy, disgusting.

  • @fairydogmother2752
    @fairydogmother2752 4 месяца назад +1

    When you got that many kids, i guarantee you're not tending to all their needs. So it's no surprise he felt no connection or love at home and searched for it elsewhere 😕

  • @Nyctophora
    @Nyctophora 4 месяца назад

    I'm glad she found him. I'm sorry the two young parents couldn't be together.

  • @toddrickman
    @toddrickman 4 месяца назад

    Big hug from Rienzi Mississippi 🫂

  • @zoeyrochellezhombie829
    @zoeyrochellezhombie829 Месяц назад

    My mom was born at an unwed mother's hospital called Crittenden in KCMO. From what the evidence says, both my grandparents had been married before and had five kids all together. When my mom came along, there was no evidence that my grandma had divorced her last husband to marry my grandfather. We'll obviously never know what happened because my grandparents died in the late 80s to early 2000s.

  • @judyjudy51
    @judyjudy51 4 месяца назад

    amazing story ~

  • @moragwilliamson1736
    @moragwilliamson1736 4 месяца назад +1

    "Frog Boy"--how disrespectful and callous.

  • @char2win
    @char2win 4 месяца назад +4

    Friday night treat time. Thank you ❤

  • @xaraxania
    @xaraxania 4 месяца назад +1

    Rest in peace Wint x

  • @VioletJoy
    @VioletJoy 4 месяца назад +9

    It's interesting to see so much outrage about the name given to Winston - Frog Boy. While it definitely doesn't sound like a nice name, it was chosen to get attention and not be forgotten. It's because they cared.

    • @SpicyTexan64
      @SpicyTexan64 4 месяца назад

      Sure, imagine a young unknown dead girl and naming her Lizard Girl. You know... for attention and stuff. 🙄

    • @NannupTiger
      @NannupTiger 4 месяца назад +5

      Frogs are great animals. I don't understand how people are finding this disrespectful? He was found in water & a body will bloat after a few days submerged in water.

    • @CreedKafer
      @CreedKafer 4 месяца назад

      Would monkey boy have been disrespectful?

    • @VioletJoy
      @VioletJoy 4 месяца назад +4

      @@NannupTiger Exactly!!

    • @jamiemohan2049
      @jamiemohan2049 4 месяца назад +1

      The name is also ironic as he was actually very handsome. Obviously not when found as he decayed in the water.

  • @nicholeholland8703
    @nicholeholland8703 4 месяца назад +1

    Im wondering if his father set out to handle his kid and things got physical and something happened... so sad we may never know what happened... glad she found her family.

  • @bodyzoasispersonaltraining9186
    @bodyzoasispersonaltraining9186 4 месяца назад

    Rip Wild Winston. And god bless his daughter he is a 💎

  • @PandaHead602
    @PandaHead602 13 дней назад

    Thx u

  • @ericbernardo9161
    @ericbernardo9161 4 месяца назад +2

    Sad story