NHTSA Opens Investigation into Nissan Versa Engine Stalling - Lemon Alert "The Office of Defects Investigation (ODI) has received 20 complaints and multiple field reports describing reduced power (limp mode) following a vehicle stall in 2022-2024 Nissan Versa vehicles equipped with a manual/standard transmission. The complaints allege that if the vehicle stalls, resulting from releasing the clutch too fast (or for other reasons), the vehicle goes into the limp mode resulting in limited torque available to move, or accelerate the vehicle. This limp mode occurs without prior warning and can occur while driving on the highway, or in city traffic. Several of the complaints allege not being able to maintain vehicle speed above 30 MPH or accelerate to avoid a potential hazard." I bought a 2022 Nissan Versa with a manual, and because of how crude it was and especially because of how uncomfortable it was on the highway, I traded it in for a Corolla Hatchback, even though my Versa only had 12K miles on it. The Corolla is a much nicer and more capable car, especially on long road trips. By the way, I experienced the limp mode condition after stalling, and after that happened once, my engine developed a slight knocking noise. I'll never buy another Nissan again.
I just purchased a Versa S +, the plus adds enough to make it a much better car still at a very low price point. I am just frustrated by the lack of a remote for lock and unlock.
I just got one a few days ago. Still getting used to that too but there’s so much else I like that it wasn’t a dealbreaker. Less to break. I like the simplicity of the car
Just picked up this exact car on Saturday about 260 miles on it. I think these things with the manual given reasonable care in maintenance and driving gently will serve us well. I’ve got the Kumho Solus tires / seem to get ok reviews .
Totally agree, i use mine for commuting back and forth on the east coast. So far it's been great, except for the one time in limp mode. Hopefully won't need tires for awhile!
I test-drove this vehicle with four people and AC on. It struggled on a moderately-graded freeway onramp. I had to downshift to third and there was a lot of noise but not much else. Fifth gear still gives you about 3,000 RPM on the flat, and it drones. The rest of the car was OK but on the manual the rear seat does not fold. I'm partial to manuals but these were deal-killers.
I think any 4cyl car with 4 people and the a/c on would struggle up a mild grade. The lack of a folding rear seat can be a dealbreaker, however. Not sure why Nissan did that.
@@henryjoshual1848 Only the base S model manual does not come with folding rear seats (I'm not sure about the CVT S Versa model) The higher trims which are all CVT all come with folding rear seats.
@@henryjoshual1848 Nissan threw the folks in the US who want a manual 2024/2025 Versa under the bus with such basic features. In Mexico they get a 5 speed versa advance version with a half digital cluster, slightly larger infotainment screen, rear folding seats, keyless entry, improved cameras. ect. In Canada even though they don't offer a 2024/2025 Versa in 5 speed manual, they do offer a 2024 Nissan Sentra (base and SR trims) with a 6 Speed manual and a mechanical hand parking brake, even though it has discs brakes on the back. The new Sentras always have more features than the Versa.
Auto UNLOCK ---- to enable/disable auto-unlock: (or) auto-lock 1. Close all doors. 2. turn ignition key to the ON position. 3. Press and hold the door unlock switch for 5 seconds or more 4. switch is completed when the hazard lamp blinks. 2 blinks = enabled 1 blink = disabled Note - to enable/disable the "auto lock" feature is the same procedure, but press the lock button.
As far as the limp mode goes I don’t own one of those but I’ve read before that it goes into limp mode sometimes if you either stall it or don’t turn the key for long enough for it to start. Supposedly the NHTSA is investigating and Nissan is supposed to have a fix soon if they don’t already have one. Edit: if you go to the NHTSA website and search Nissan Versa and click 2023 Nissan Versa then scroll down click on investigations and you can see “reduced power after engine stall”
I was looking into replacing my 24+ year old Saturn SL2 with one of these with the manual trans. So is it true this base model does not come with remote locking/unlocking doors? My Saturn does. Also the not split rear seat is a big deal for me. I've hauled many a large object by folding down the seat backs Including my bicycle. The best mpg I've gotten with my Saturn is 41 highway. Are there any other negative surprises I should know about? My Saturn is pretty basic but your Versa seems even more basic.
Yup, no key fob! Im sure a car audio shop could install one. The non foldable seat is an issue. The limp mode activating is worrisome as well. This has only happened once though. Other that those things it has done exactly as i hoped. If ya didnt need the manual, you could move up a notch and get split seats and FOB
I drove fiats in 70's and 80's driving fiat 124, 131 Brava .I put on pirelli P77- best traction; it was rwd best traction in snow. I wish these vehicles were available today.
I bought the exact same center console. Either the back USB ports on the car or on the console don't seem to work very well. I have a USB stick with my music plugged into the front USB port. When i plugged my phone in to charge in the center console it glitched my USB stick. I had to re-upload my music. I don't even use the back USB ports anymore.
None of the vehicles in my garage unlock. When you turn the car off. I would think that would be a safety hazard. Especially if you're parking in West Virginia or North Carolina😊
That's funny when you say you finally have 10,000 miles on your 2024 Versa. I have a 2023 Kicks over a year old, and I'm just getting to 6,000 miles. NTSA has opened an investigation into the stalling and limp mode on the manual Versa.
During my test-drive in one of these with four people and AC, it struggled, even in third gear, up a moderately-graded freeway onramp. RPM was over 3k and it droned. One of the deal-killers was fifth gear, which at 70mph still puts RPM at a droning 3k.
That reminds me of my 2005 ford focus manual. it was at about 3,300 RPMs in 5th for manual. I think that when they make these 5 speeds on these cheaper cars, they intentionally gear them as if they needed a 6th gear so that people with bigger wallets will upgrade to something bigger and more expensive. In theory it should be easy to be able to have an option for more highway oriented gearing.
Because Nissan Just slapped a Manual transmission and did not bother to reprogram a CVT based Engine computer module. I believe limp mode is supposed to be a safety feature to prevent excess engine power ruining the CVT under certain conditions, maybe the computer senses something wrong in the transmission thinking it is a CVT and it just shuts the power or prevent more power delivery to the transmission.
@@slingshotengage I heard the recently produced 2024 ones don't suffer the limp mode defect, maybe Nissan reprogramed the newly manufactured ones. I just got a new 2024 Manual versa last week, manufactured in May 2024 just the previous month before I bought it. I have not stalled the car yet but I will report what I experience when I do.
Can anyone tell me how stiff the clutch is on new Versa compared to a 2001 Civic? The Civic clutch is about the limit my old injured knee can handle. The Civic has a very light clutch IMHO. I would test drive a Versa but not one at any dealer within a reasonable distance. Thanks.
@@fraank44mag You would probably be okay , may bump your head every once in awhile on the door frame, the seats could be a little wider though so I would check into that
It may be affordable but I wish I hadn't bought mine. This car is shorter than the 2015 Versa I had. Rear seats have no leg room. Trunk is smaller. Front passenger seat can not be changed in height. Glove compartment is smaller. You have to buy your own screws to attach the front license plate. At this time you can't get the cameraa (which cover a large part of the windshield), auto dim rear view mirror factory installed. The worst part is they built the car with crevices that can't be cleaned of debris all over the car ( too many recessed gaps between top and sides of car and front and rear windows. Not worth the cheap price.
They were made in Mexico so do not expect it to last as poor quality control issues there. S model does not have Android Auto, Apple CarPlay, HD Radio & SiriusXM Satellite Radio. There is no keyless entry but you can add a aftermarket alarm to open the doors remotely.
Mine is an S but had the S+ package so I have Apple CarPlay. Yeah no keyless entry is taking some getting used to. I did have a remote start put in but still have to unlock the door. At least after I do the car will be nice and warm. A must have in the northeast when I don’t have a garage
Ппц, я вам завидую, был бы в России такой пепелац, рабочая лошадка,топчик за свои деньги, но к сожалению у нас она будет как жирная иномарка в Европе. Очень жаль.
@@EmilyTienne Yep,it is too high, slides outta the grooves, and the charger doesn't work. But, from what I've seen from the factory one, they are both bad
NHTSA Opens Investigation into Nissan Versa Engine Stalling - Lemon Alert
"The Office of Defects Investigation (ODI) has received 20 complaints and multiple field reports describing reduced power (limp mode) following a vehicle stall in 2022-2024 Nissan Versa vehicles equipped with a manual/standard transmission. The complaints allege that if the vehicle stalls, resulting from releasing the clutch too fast (or for other reasons), the vehicle goes into the limp mode resulting in limited torque available to move, or accelerate the vehicle. This limp mode occurs without prior warning and can occur while driving on the highway, or in city traffic. Several of the complaints allege not being able to maintain vehicle speed above 30 MPH or accelerate to avoid a potential hazard."
I bought a 2022 Nissan Versa with a manual, and because of how crude it was and especially because of how uncomfortable it was on the highway, I traded it in for a Corolla Hatchback, even though my Versa only had 12K miles on it. The Corolla is a much nicer and more capable car, especially on long road trips.
By the way, I experienced the limp mode condition after stalling, and after that happened once, my engine developed a slight knocking noise. I'll never buy another Nissan again.
Wow, thanks for all the info! Will be passing this along
I bought the same car manual and I experienced the same thing. Huge loss of power and no acceleration. I only have 2k miles on it.
Nissan has lost its mojo since the Renault merger, that's because the French automaker has horrible quality, like most cars coming from that country.
I just purchased a Versa S +, the plus adds enough to make it a much better car still at a very low price point. I am just frustrated by the lack of a remote for lock and unlock.
Myself, I'll take a 10 dollars to replace if lost physical key any day over a 300 dollar key fob that someone can hack electronically !
I just got one a few days ago. Still getting used to that too but there’s so much else I like that it wasn’t a dealbreaker. Less to break. I like the simplicity of the car
Same here they didn't tell me tell I bought it when they handed me the keys I was not happy
Just picked up this exact car on Saturday about 260 miles on it. I think these things with the manual given reasonable care in maintenance and driving gently will serve us well. I’ve got the Kumho Solus tires / seem to get ok reviews .
Totally agree, i use mine for commuting back and forth on the east coast. So far it's been great, except for the one time in limp mode. Hopefully won't need tires for awhile!
I just picked my 2024 Versa as well, 5 Speed with Kumho Solus TA31 tires as well.
I test-drove this vehicle with four people and AC on. It struggled on a moderately-graded freeway onramp. I had to downshift to third and there was a lot of noise but not much else. Fifth gear still gives you about 3,000 RPM on the flat, and it drones. The rest of the car was OK but on the manual the rear seat does not fold. I'm partial to manuals but these were deal-killers.
I think any 4cyl car with 4 people and the a/c on would struggle up a mild grade. The lack of a folding rear seat can be a dealbreaker, however. Not sure why Nissan did that.
@@henryjoshual1848 Only the base S model manual does not come with folding rear seats (I'm not sure about the CVT S Versa model) The higher trims which are all CVT all come with folding rear seats.
@@henryjoshual1848 Nissan threw the folks in the US who want a manual 2024/2025 Versa under the bus with such basic features. In Mexico they get a 5 speed versa advance version with a half digital cluster, slightly larger infotainment screen, rear folding seats, keyless entry, improved cameras. ect.
In Canada even though they don't offer a 2024/2025 Versa in 5 speed manual, they do offer a 2024 Nissan Sentra (base and SR trims) with a 6 Speed manual and a mechanical hand parking brake, even though it has discs brakes on the back. The new Sentras always have more features than the Versa.
Auto UNLOCK ---- to enable/disable auto-unlock: (or) auto-lock
1. Close all doors. 2. turn ignition key to the ON position. 3. Press and hold the door unlock switch for 5 seconds or more
4. switch is completed when the hazard lamp blinks. 2 blinks = enabled 1 blink = disabled
Note - to enable/disable the "auto lock" feature is the same procedure, but press the lock button.
Step 5. Clear limp mode😅
As far as the limp mode goes I don’t own one of those but I’ve read before that it goes into limp mode sometimes if you either stall it or don’t turn the key for long enough for it to start. Supposedly the NHTSA is investigating and Nissan is supposed to have a fix soon if they don’t already have one.
Edit: if you go to the NHTSA website and search Nissan Versa and click 2023 Nissan Versa then scroll down click on investigations and you can see “reduced power after engine stall”
I'm getting 33 in the city and 43 highway with my 2024 versa S manual . Driving style has a lot to do with what mpg you can expect I think .
Yeppers, my driving style needs improvement!
Im getting 41 combined
Have you experienced the limp mode issue mentioned in the video ?
I bought a 2025 Versa S with the CVT about two weeks ago and the best fuel economy I've seen so far is 39.2 MPG.
@@markhagge8646 38.8 with the manual is as good as i can get
As for the limp mode thing It might be something with the ABS is what my friend said. It happened after doing the tire rotation on hers.
I was looking into replacing my 24+ year old Saturn SL2 with one of these with the manual trans. So is it true this base model does not come with remote locking/unlocking doors? My Saturn does. Also the not split rear seat is a big deal for me. I've hauled many a large object by folding down the seat backs Including my bicycle. The best mpg I've gotten with my Saturn is 41 highway. Are there any other negative surprises I should know about? My Saturn is pretty basic but your Versa seems even more basic.
Yup, no key fob! Im sure a car audio shop could install one. The non foldable seat is an issue. The limp mode activating is worrisome as well. This has only happened once though. Other that those things it has done exactly as i hoped. If ya didnt need the manual, you could move up a notch and get split seats and FOB
You can always buy aftermarket
To be clear, on the manual Versa the rear seats do not fold at all. This was a deal-killer during my test drive.
did you take the hubcaps off because you think it looks better w/o them on or for a different reason?
I thought it looked better, gave it a more "sporty" look
And he gets an additional 5hp and 5mpg
I'd get chrome beauty rings.
Hubcaps are the dumbest accessory on a car besides fake engine sounds
I love Procontacts and I had them on a FIAT for years. Then my 2021 Corolla HB came with crappy Dunlops but I fixed that this year, all good now.
I drove fiats in 70's and 80's driving fiat 124, 131 Brava .I put on pirelli P77- best traction; it was rwd best traction in snow. I wish these vehicles were available today.
I bought the exact same center console. Either the back USB ports on the car or on the console don't seem to work very well. I have a USB stick with my music plugged into the front USB port. When i plugged my phone in to charge in the center console it glitched my USB stick. I had to re-upload my music. I don't even use the back USB ports anymore.
Gawd. At first glance, the thumbnail looks like a scrolled up bill is in hand.
@@MyerShift7 Just a boring ole tread depth gauge
With mostly freeway miles and avoiding jack-rabbit starts, I only need to rotate tires every 15k miles.
None of the vehicles in my garage unlock. When you turn the car off. I would think that would be a safety hazard. Especially if you're parking in West Virginia or North Carolina😊
That's funny when you say you finally have 10,000 miles on your 2024 Versa. I have a 2023 Kicks over a year old, and I'm just getting to 6,000 miles. NTSA has opened an investigation into the stalling and limp mode on the manual Versa.
Thank you for the intel! Yeah, im driving too much
The limp mode happens when you stall the vehicle, or dont turn the key long enough to fully start it.
Would you recommend this vehicle for mainly highway driving 95% highway . Enough pickup??
Yeah, that's all i do with it. If it's loaded down or the A/C is on, it's a lil sluggish
During my test-drive in one of these with four people and AC, it struggled, even in third gear, up a moderately-graded freeway onramp. RPM was over 3k and it droned. One of the deal-killers was fifth gear, which at 70mph still puts RPM at a droning 3k.
That reminds me of my 2005 ford focus manual. it was at about 3,300 RPMs in 5th for manual.
I think that when they make these 5 speeds on these cheaper cars, they intentionally gear them as if they needed a 6th gear so that people with bigger wallets will upgrade to something bigger and more expensive.
In theory it should be easy to be able to have an option for more highway oriented gearing.
What happened to the hubcap? Looks like a beater car without them.
I did some videos about the limp mode.
Ill check them out. Ty!
There's a recall.
@@StromBugSlayer Please provide a link
Where did you get the little spoiler?
Ebay, little over $100
@@slingshotengage Name or style? I'm seeing a ton of spoiler/wing options on ebay. I do like yours though.
@@justinharrington77 Beyond Basik was the name but thats all im sure about
How do you "cycle" a key exactly? Please explain
I just turned it on and off 5 times, something I read to do if in limp mode.
@@slingshotengage "cycling" a key does not mean making the engine turn over, right? You just mean putting the key in the "on" position?
@ Correct, others have said, turn the vehicle off for at least 15 seconds and the will reset the computer
how can a manual go into limp mode?
Right! But it did, no power at all
Because Nissan Just slapped a Manual transmission and did not bother to reprogram a CVT based Engine computer module. I believe limp mode is supposed to be a safety feature to prevent excess engine power ruining the CVT under certain conditions, maybe the computer senses something wrong in the transmission thinking it is a CVT and it just shuts the power or prevent more power delivery to the transmission.
@@abraham3981 it's done it twice, once when i stalled and another just random
@@slingshotengage I heard the recently produced 2024 ones don't suffer the limp mode defect, maybe Nissan reprogramed the newly manufactured ones.
I just got a new 2024 Manual versa last week, manufactured in May 2024 just the previous month before I bought it.
I have not stalled the car yet but I will report what I experience when I do.
I just bought the 2024 manusl Versa and today with only 2k miles on it went into limp mode. Bought mine Aug 15th 2024
Can anyone tell me how stiff the clutch is on new Versa compared to a 2001 Civic? The Civic clutch is about the limit my old injured knee can handle. The Civic has a very light clutch IMHO. I would test drive a Versa but not one at any dealer within a reasonable distance. Thanks.
@@jbmortensen The 2024 versa has one of the lighter pedals I've ever driven
I'm 6'2 - hows the room in the drivers seat.. for us big boys
@@fraank44mag You would probably be okay , may bump your head every once in awhile on the door frame, the seats could be a little wider though so I would check into that
Ok so at what age do you no longer want to stick a key in the door lock or worse, be seen doing so?
@@6844376 That's a great question! It has been a little frustrating, especially if you want to open a door that doesn't have a keyhole
How is the cruising RPM at about 70 MPH? I was just looking at them
I'll have to check, it's pretty high though
During my test drive with four people and AC, RPM, even in fifth, was about 3K and it droned annoyingly.
Do the rear seats fold down more or less flat?
Dont fold at all actually
@@slingshotengageon the manual it’s not an option correct? I have an automatic S and it came with the 60/40 split
@@jayk5731 Correct!
Good thing your doors don't unlock..someone can try and enter when you stop.
It may be affordable but I wish I hadn't bought mine. This car is shorter than the 2015 Versa I had. Rear seats have no leg room. Trunk is smaller. Front passenger seat can not be changed in height. Glove compartment is smaller. You have to buy your own screws to attach the front license plate. At this time you can't get the cameraa (which cover a large part of the windshield), auto dim rear view mirror factory installed. The worst part is they built the car with crevices that can't be cleaned of debris all over the car ( too many recessed gaps between top and sides of car and front and rear windows. Not worth the cheap price.
I suppose it's worth remembering that it's originally built for the Japanese stature.
What is limp mode??
I heard it happens to diabetics.
I think you shoulda gotten a Corolla or Impreza honestly.. way better vehicles in all aspects 👍👍👍👍
They were made in Mexico so do not expect it to last as poor quality control issues there. S model does not have Android Auto, Apple CarPlay, HD Radio & SiriusXM Satellite Radio. There is no keyless entry but you can add a aftermarket alarm to open the doors remotely.
What do you expect at that price point?
Mine is an S but had the S+ package so I have Apple CarPlay. Yeah no keyless entry is taking some getting used to. I did have a remote start put in but still have to unlock the door. At least after I do the car will be nice and warm. A must have in the northeast when I don’t have a garage
Ппц, я вам завидую, был бы в России такой пепелац, рабочая лошадка,топчик за свои деньги, но к сожалению у нас она будет как жирная иномарка в Европе. Очень жаль.
Aftermarket arm rest looks sketchy.
@@EmilyTienne Yep,it is too high, slides outta the grooves, and the charger doesn't work. But, from what I've seen from the factory one, they are both bad
Nissan CVT disaster waiting to happen!
That's why I chose the Manual, so we will see how long the clutch lasts
Nissan is not a good vehicle to have or maintain.. worst engineered cars mate ..
What you driving then ?😅
@@WorkingOnRocks I own a 2009 Subaru Impreza, non turbo.. Subarus are the easiest cars to work on, even to replace a whole engine 👍👍👍👍
@@moonlander03 got A/C ? In that 2009 lol
@@WorkingOnRocks still running like a champ baby, will out last what ever you got that’s for sure 😂😂😂😂😂
Clearly you know nothing about cars and are just a fanboy.
Any problems with the CVT overheating?