I've been using Silverblue exclusively for work, and I love it. There is a bit of a learning curve to rpm-ostree, but I find it to be better than the Workstation edition. Downside is that you will have to reboot for any system update, however it does not force updates. For Fedora installations in general, I recommend enabling flathub, and disabling fedora flatpaks. I generally do not ever have issues with flatpaks on fedora. If the gtk theme exists for it in flathub, it will typically automatically install it for you if the theme is applied in gnome-tweaks.
I am thinking of using Silver Blue since I have been in out of linux for a year, I consider myself a beginner still would you recommend it for a beginner?
@@MFTAQ It depends on what you need out of your computer. On Silverblue you can get just about anything you could possibly need one way or another. Fedora workstation works excellently. If you want a system that you don't need to worry about ever breaking, I recommend Silverblue.
You did a great job with showcasing the new offering of Fedora. It is pretty slick and very elegant. It looks to be a good release to play around with some. Thanks!
In FEDORA 41, the updates will be much faster and will have a lot of better drivers support. I love Fedora and I think is much secure then othere distros.
Updating the system while it's running is dangerous, so Discover (which you're showing) does a reboot, then does the package update during the reboot before the bulk of the system comes up. On the command line side, Fedora has "dnf offline-upgrade [download|reboot]" to do a similar thing. The way Arch and other Linux's do it is risky, they're just gambling that a demand loaded library that's been updated doesn't get pulled in by an old binary causing a crash. Sure a single exe crash is not that bad but if a crash occurs right in them middle of the package upgrade in dnf/rpm itself you could end up with an inconsistent filesystem. I personally simply log out of the desktop and do the dnf upgrade from a virtual console, that cuts the crash risk a lot because the entire desktop is down, but dnf offline-upgrade or discover is really the safe way. BTW the "faster" dnf is "dnf5" which wasn't quite ready for Fedora 39, dnf5 itself works great and I've used it for months as a prerelease but it doesn't have the equivalent "offline-upgrade" and system-upgrade functions yet which is why they didn't put it in yet.
Aha a somewhat more secure distribution for your production machine and how does it feel? Fedora is very slow to update, that was a real irritation for me. So I often choose a Debian distribution with apt as package manager. Fedora aims to improve speed, has that been done? On GNOME 45 you don't seem to be able to use extensions properly at the moment. In this I am curious about your experience.
Well after uploading this video and coming back home from work the wifi will not work. So that's a big problem... lol It does feel faster and snappier than I remember. I didn't try any extensions, or see if there was any. Just took a look at the new update and poked around.
The faster updating tool is 'dnf5' and wasn't ready yet, the basic upgrade/install functionality is working in dnf5 but it doesn't have the offline-upgrade and system-upgrade functions yet. Those are considered deal breakers (must haves) so dnf5 will come in later like Fedora 40 or 41. There's also a "microdnf" which partitions away the basic functionality of dnf5 so that you can do 90% of the work of dnf with microdnf which is faster. The reason why dnf is slower is because it's so powerful (full history, package undo, package rollback, etc) and so needs more metadata. Arch and apt is less complex and so are faster. Personally I was hoping they would make dnf5 more like git so that it simply gets only the package metadata that actually changed, I think what it does now is detect updates at the repo level by a time stamp in the root of the repo which it compares to a matching timestamp in your local dnf metadata. If the remote repo is newer, it gets the data. But it's still getting the whole set of data, usually the majority of that is the same as what you already have.
do you have the "H310M H"? if yes then update your bios in the settings you can disable the reboot update thing and it will be like any other distro hope you enjoy fedora :)
Fedora installer is broken on me. I install Fedora, installation completes, I reboot, choose Fedora bootloader, GRUB opens, lists "Windows Boot Manager" and "UEFI Firmware Options", but not Fedora itself! I have installed Fedora before with the same setup a couple of months ago, I have installed so many distros. I know my way around. I don't know what changed, but Fedora simply fights me to not put its own entry on the GRUB menu that creates itself. Every other distro installs fine (tried Arch, Ubuntu, Debian, Mint, Endeavour, Feren, Zorin, Neon just to see if the issue is Fedora only). The installer is a mess and the partition selector is horrendous. They have to replace that, at least for the Workstation.
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I've been using Silverblue exclusively for work, and I love it. There is a bit of a learning curve to rpm-ostree, but I find it to be better than the Workstation edition. Downside is that you will have to reboot for any system update, however it does not force updates. For Fedora installations in general, I recommend enabling flathub, and disabling fedora flatpaks. I generally do not ever have issues with flatpaks on fedora. If the gtk theme exists for it in flathub, it will typically automatically install it for you if the theme is applied in gnome-tweaks.
I am thinking of using Silver Blue since I have been in out of linux for a year, I consider myself a beginner still would you recommend it for a beginner?
@@MFTAQ It depends on what you need out of your computer. On Silverblue you can get just about anything you could possibly need one way or another. Fedora workstation works excellently. If you want a system that you don't need to worry about ever breaking, I recommend Silverblue.
You did a great job with showcasing the new offering of Fedora. It is pretty slick and very elegant. It looks to be a good release to play around with some. Thanks!
Thank you very much!
Thanks Tyler. Way to get back in it strong bro!
In FEDORA 41, the updates will be much faster and will have a lot of better drivers support. I love Fedora and I think is much secure then othere distros.
Fedora updates the system after restart because it prevents breakage of some packages while running your OS. That's what I know.
Updating the system while it's running is dangerous, so Discover (which you're showing) does a reboot, then does the package update during the reboot before the bulk of the system comes up. On the command line side, Fedora has "dnf offline-upgrade [download|reboot]" to do a similar thing.
The way Arch and other Linux's do it is risky, they're just gambling that a demand loaded library that's been updated doesn't get pulled in by an old binary causing a crash. Sure a single exe crash is not that bad but if a crash occurs right in them middle of the package upgrade in dnf/rpm itself you could end up with an inconsistent filesystem.
I personally simply log out of the desktop and do the dnf upgrade from a virtual console, that cuts the crash risk a lot because the entire desktop is down, but dnf offline-upgrade or discover is really the safe way.
BTW the "faster" dnf is "dnf5" which wasn't quite ready for Fedora 39, dnf5 itself works great and I've used it for months as a prerelease but it doesn't have the equivalent "offline-upgrade" and system-upgrade functions yet which is why they didn't put it in yet.
and the cycle continues :)
testing oses is really fun
You can also use a scrollwheel on the workspace indicator to switch them. Found that out unintentionally one day 😂
Just reload Fedora after watch this video. Fedora looking a lot better. Did have a go with Debian running but found not beginner friendly myself.
I believe that it should be the same for kde version.
so... next fedora 40 is gonna force a kde plasma desktop even if i upgrade from 39 (gnome)?
Aha a somewhat more secure distribution for your production machine and how does it feel? Fedora is very slow to update, that was a real irritation for me. So I often choose a Debian distribution with apt as package manager. Fedora aims to improve speed, has that been done? On GNOME 45 you don't seem to be able to use extensions properly at the moment. In this I am curious about your experience.
Well after uploading this video and coming back home from work the wifi will not work. So that's a big problem... lol
It does feel faster and snappier than I remember. I didn't try any extensions, or see if there was any. Just took a look at the new update and poked around.
The faster updating tool is 'dnf5' and wasn't ready yet, the basic upgrade/install functionality is working in dnf5 but it doesn't have the offline-upgrade and system-upgrade functions yet. Those are considered deal breakers (must haves) so dnf5 will come in later like Fedora 40 or 41. There's also a "microdnf" which partitions away the basic functionality of dnf5 so that you can do 90% of the work of dnf with microdnf which is faster. The reason why dnf is slower is because it's so powerful (full history, package undo, package rollback, etc) and so needs more metadata. Arch and apt is less complex and so are faster.
Personally I was hoping they would make dnf5 more like git so that it simply gets only the package metadata that actually changed, I think what it does now is detect updates at the repo level by a time stamp in the root of the repo which it compares to a matching timestamp in your local dnf metadata. If the remote repo is newer, it gets the data. But it's still getting the whole set of data, usually the majority of that is the same as what you already have.
do you have the "H310M H"? if yes then update your bios
in the settings you can disable the reboot update thing and it will be like any other distro
hope you enjoy fedora :)
and also if you need more workspace you can setup the keybinding from the terminal
Fedora installer is broken on me. I install Fedora, installation completes, I reboot, choose Fedora bootloader, GRUB opens, lists "Windows Boot Manager" and "UEFI Firmware Options", but not Fedora itself! I have installed Fedora before with the same setup a couple of months ago, I have installed so many distros. I know my way around. I don't know what changed, but Fedora simply fights me to not put its own entry on the GRUB menu that creates itself. Every other distro installs fine (tried Arch, Ubuntu, Debian, Mint, Endeavour, Feren, Zorin, Neon just to see if the issue is Fedora only).
The installer is a mess and the partition selector is horrendous. They have to replace that, at least for the Workstation.
Sorry to hear that man! Hopefully that will change for the better before too long. Thanks for sharing your experience man, take care!
what happened to arch?
I’m still using it on my laptop and very well could go back to it on the desktop. Just having fun looking at Fedora
nice spyware kid
Where's the spyware? Discord?
lol. Wut?