Perfectly Flawed City Layout | Cities Skylines 2
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New Dollarton is a modified version of the River Delta map. This is a map based on New York city including New Jersey, Brooklyn, The Bronx and various surrounding cities and landscapes.
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I haven’t used mods myself simply because i am too lazy to get them but i do believe you should definitely get them! Ive seen other youtubers use them to make very detailed cities that look amazing
Id say once you install Thunderstore modding CS2 is as easy as it ever was.
it’s arguably easier on thunderstore than steam
Another CS2 youtuber called infrastructurist does jetty-type things with quays, if you watch one of his vids it's kind of complicated to set it up but it looks very clean when it's done. I thought maybe you'd be interested in doing that instead of using land for the parts that jut out into the water. Love how the city is coming along!
infrastructurist has to be my current fave, his recent builds are insane, aaaaaalrightletsgoo
Agreed! @@Kay3o Infra and $2.20 are top tier.
Infrastructurist is the best at the moment
Big fan of Infrastructurist!
He's great
There is the tree controller mod, if you want more control over their growth. There's also the surface mod would probably help out with making buildings fit in.
I kinda liked calling it King Street, it implies to me that the street was so old that it was named pre-American Revolution. Gives the city a bit of history IMO.
I mean, it could also be MLK, but both are cool I think.
I love the idea of you gradually adding mods as the city grows, the same way new york grew around and adapted to new technologies being invented. Watching the growing pains of a sleepy city installing telegraph lines and railroads to a metropolis developing highways and airports is what gives its neighborhoods and the city as a whole character.
It would be interesting to look at a build and see areas that were developed before move it, intersection marking tool, etc contrasted with areas that had room to develop around these mods.
i'd recommend using mods, personally i use the prop line tools and anarchy tools and have found them really helpful for detailing and stuff.
Another great ep!! I haven’t dived into any mods yet but looks like the simple ones would be a huge improvement on base game features! Although I’d hate for them to not be compatible once paradox mods comes online. 😅
Same! But if it’s just trees disappearing when pdxmods is released I can handle that. Freely placed tree will make a huge difference
@@twodollarstwenty The road tools mod probably wouldn't break your game, since all it does is expand the road tools to control things like quays spawning. I think the only "mod" right now that risks breaking the game is dev tools.
I think mods are a good idea.
I would suggest u to use Anarchy, tree controler, legacy flavour and extended Road Upgrades
The simplest way is to use thunderstore mod manager as it is very easy to use
These mods are the ones that I would recommend as well! I would add line tool lite but I think that will be implemented into game anyway or at least it should
My favourite thing to do in CS1 was to make a 'Sydney-like' city; don't plan for any future infrastructure and hurriedly slap it together when you need it. That is my idea of a Perfectly Flawed City lol
Wait, people plan future infrastructure? 😅
I really hope we get more road types, but until then it would be interesting to see you using the smallest road!
I agree with the concrete-problem for the city with the lack of trees, but I also think it is partly because the standard road is so massive with sidewalk, parking in both directions and two-way road with distintcitve markings. Thats not the usual neighbourhood road.
The roads in New Jersey (and most New England locales) follow the historical trading routes that colonists and naitives used when the area was being colonized. Essentially a road exisits as the fastest route between two points on a critical trade route, and the network expanded from there.
That kind of focus on placing destinations and building the roads around them, makes it feel like they were built there to connect these places, and it really adds to the realism of cities in this game.
I’m from south Jersey and the roads are def plotted to be the fastest route between two points. Most roads go straight for miles.
I have been using mods since they came out and haven't had a single issue so far. I really recommend getting the mod 'tree controller' it let's you put down trees of any age you want. It even has a brush to change tree ages.
24:30 I'm pretty sure you can use anarchy to move the surfaces of existing buildings increadably easily.
I definitly think the surfaces mod (extra landscaping tools I think) whould help a lot with filling in those triangles new dollerton has.
I use anarchy and extended road upgrades, mainly for the option to make quay walls more easy
You're always so good at the custom builds, I think mods would really enhance this series. I think tree anarchy for sure, would also like to see you use the surfaces and custom parking lots that Sully has showcased
The Extra landscaping mod makes painting surfaces really easy. It's a nicer graphical interface than searching through dev mode. Custom parking lots makes all the difference with downtown areas. I haven't used a prebuilt one since I started making them. I just fill in the awkward gaps with parking lots, either functional or decorative.
Kennedy Boulevard was inaugurated in 1895 as Hudson Boulevard. It was the result of three decades effort's worth of trying to connect the very tip-top of the Hudson County line with the bottom of the Bayonne peninsula. It existed in sections here and there before it was all connected into one road, hence the bendiness. It was intended for pedestrians, horse carriages, and bicycles only, banning all commercial traffic.
In real life, Kennedy Boulevard and Bergenline Avenue (the busier, commercial corridor in that area) are busy with buses and jitneys. They are very ripe for subway expansions. There have been plans here and there, but nothing has ever come out of it.
The mods are so handy and generally easy to use and install. The mod that lets you add barriers and quays to roads through upgrades is incredible for manipulating zoning areas. Plus the tree line tool.
I haven’t had any trouble with the mods, as far as save games and lag goes. They’re super easy to install too, basically the same as the steam workshop. I’d say at the very least Anarchy is worth it as the creator (Algernon) is almost certainly going to be moving it to Paradox Mods. Hope this helps!
One of the things that bugs me the most is the lack of asset variations. I cant wait for DLCs and custom assets to come out! Also I downloaded your map and it’s such a fun seeing what you did versus what I did even tho I’m using the same reference.
I'm loving how you make the cities and road layouts look so organic and realistic. Looking forward to the next episodes already!
I'd love a mod that stopped the cranes animation in low density settings. Suburban houses generally don't need cranes when being built.
I'm all for using mods. The anarchy mod has a bulldozer tool that lets you remove surfaces from assets, so the pavement and grass on the elementary school you added can be removed, making it look less square (obviously the footprint remains the same tho). I also think you'd love incorporating Dev Mode, it allows you to paint in surfaces like you were trying to do with the ore mine in the previous New New Dollarton, and even add in invisible roads with parking to create custom parking lots that fit more naturally in the city! You can check out Sully's video on creating custom parking lots to see him talk and demonstrate these tools.
There are 2 let say problems, first is planing of main buildings like city hall and warefare and later reconstruction of city canter :) And second is there are not exist buildings triangle shape just squares and linear planing :) good work with this map i start from start with this map
im so excited for the others cities you're going to start building around the map, and then eventually they will all grow and maybe join each other
Big yes to the mods! I don't have experience with them, but if it improves your city then definitely yes.
It's not necessarily a mod but like a dream update for me would be a massive tourism update. If you know me, I LOVE going on cruises and love all the little environments you get to go to; I would love even building my very own cruise port and make it look all nice and tropical, and have tour busses going to little activities or tours of the city or beach resorts. But the only game I can "realistically" replicate that in is the Tropico series and you know... It's Tropico so there only so much you can do in that factor
16:26 we have a lot of roads on the east coast named broad street as they are the main “broad” or large street in an old town. in jersey we also have a lot of routes, i.e. one in jc called rt. 139 in which case it’s not a highway but still a major throughway. loving the jersey city inspired content, so much character to that area and such a fun city
with mods and the adult trees thingy, get tree controller. it allows you to select the age of the tree (dead, sapling, full grown and all the others) and rotation. also get line tool lite because it can place trees in a line
Jersey City, along with a lot of other cities in the area, Newark, Patterson, Elizabeth, so on, are all run by the city structure of government but function as suburbs of New York. They also incorporated other towns that were once around it, creating neighborhoods within the city. New York is the greatest example, as the borough of Brooklyn was once its own city before being incorporated as a borough. This leads to road networks not creating a perfect grid, as they weren’t planned out to be on the same grid
Really love those wipe transitions for the Before and After, super satisfying!
Yes to mods. The extended road tools are simple and make a huge difference in making building roads the way you want without headache. Extended landscaping and anarchy will help a ton with those sharp edges too can just drag them to fill like you were mentioning with the school, and it’s super easy.
Great episode.
I think a great name for the neighborhood in the hills would be "Penny Heights" it would fit New Dollarton very well
Mods I'd recommend:
* Extended Road Upgrades: Makes creating quays and cut & fill so much easier
* Anarchy: You already know what this does
* Extra landscaping tools: Easier to create surfaces without going into dev UI. Can also place down resources wherever you want
* RICO: Can place any building you want anywhere, regardless of zoning. Really good for when you need to fill a spot and zoning isn't cooperating.
These four IMO will provide the most 'bang for buck' in terms of getting the most capabilities with the fewest mods possible. I've had these mods on my main save for a good amount of hours now and have faced no crashes or anything like that.
I know you said that you don't really like dev mode, but I think it would solve some of your problems with very little risk. The pavement tool allows you to extend the ground textures and it is really easy to fill in those awkward gaps like the one by the elementary school. Also, having the ability to look through all the assets in the game is so so nice and you spend way less time fighting with zoning. You mentioned wanting a lot of mixed use, and I think it really helps to look through all the options because some of the mixed use of different sizes look very awkward next to each other.
Just had a random quick thought of maybe naming "Florence BLVD" to "King Florence BLVD" just maybe it could add a little bit of that back story and also since you liked the "King Street" Aswell !
Mods or dev tools have been a great bit of fun for my own cities in terms of realism and detail as of right now in the limited state. Emphasis on the dev tools and a line tool mod and your choice of anarchy would make this series look amazing.
I admire your ability to rough things in and not worry about perfection up front.
I love the mods! Been using anarchy for similar reasons that you mentioned. Although honestly I just use the inbuilt dev mode more than anything else. Super fun using all the lil assets! Boulders, little markets, fountains etc. 💜
I feel that quality of life mods are (currently) the only need for mods until we know their safer (such as the three you mentioned). People are talking about a tree controller mod, which sounds better than only adult trees, as hopefully you can adjust the tree age/aging. Also, the comments Ave mentioned Extended Road Upgrades which might make placing roads on/in terrain easier. Which there is a time ad place for both of these, I think.
As for a mod(/update) I think we should get, which CPP mentioned pretty early on, is a road naming system similar to that of CS1, with the ability to adjust where a road name begins and ends. This would help a bit with world building without messing with the game mechanics. Also, here’s my basic list of mods/updates (we had in CS1 but not CS2) I have from watching y’all: Zoning Adjuster, Stop sign for individual roads control, Road naming controls (as I mentioned), Historic Buildings, and Changing road trees.
Nice video! You will enjoy the Thunderstore, it's very easy to use, and, so far, the mods been first rate.
This looks really good!
There acrually is some kind of vanilla creative mod tool, where you can use vanilla probs and decales to detail up your city, ive seen one RUclipsr use it before
The 2 must have mods I've found a game changer is Extended road upgrades and extra landscaping tools. With the landscaping mod you can add and change those areas on buildings like you can with farms and drag out to wherever you want. I fill in those spaces all the time, can add concrete or grass. I highly recommend these 2 mods as they are great for detailing
New Two dollars video makes my day!
Loving your videos and the way you build your cities
Lots of love from Italy✨
I've only tried one mod so far and haven't had luck with it lol. Might just wait til the workshop comes out, unless I hear some good ones then I'm sure I'll try again lol. I do however use devmode from time to time! Mainly just for the surface painter and placing objects anywhere to make some really cool areas. I have been building a city on your new dollarton map right alongside you lol, took a lot of inspiration at first but now it's really cool to see how much our cities are going there own ways! Devmode has really helped my dock and pier areas look so cool
That was my favorite series I love springwood bring it back please
After using a variety of mods the Anarchy mod is useful in the fact that there are way to many interference problems with the current version of the game and sometimes putting a road down works and other times the same road in the same place will have problems placing because of no existent water or the like. So just using to be to able to place buildings and roads and trees exactly where you want them is really useful. Also on another note I have been loving the extended road services mods which gives you the ability to change roads to quay walls the like is really useful.
24:18 I saw someone using a mod that filled those gaps. Works the same way as farms where you lay the boundaries. Pretty sure the mod allows you can change the surface as well.
I love the "build little" approach. I'm trying to do that with my current build. Occasionally i get carried away and put something in that is too big and have to pull out the old bulldozer. 😅
I think the plateau suburb should be called "Clifton". Clifton is a suburb in Bristol, England that is really amazing. Its situated on a cliff/plateau above the river avon, and is next to the famous clifton suspension bridge. The road layout is fairly similar, and is full of terraced houses like you've got. Hope you give my idea a thought love your vids
I'd like to see either a mod or DLC that introduces motorsports into the game. Like you could have a Formula 1 style grand prix event come into the city and race either on the city streets or a dedicated racetrack. And you could also have different types of racing events like either stockcars, GT3, Formula 1, etc. And have the ability to create your own race team which will boost the city's happiness when they win a race/championship.
I also hope they start reintroducing features from the previous game like things from the DLCs in Cities Skylines 1 and add them to CS2 in future updates.
I was watching a CPP stream the other day and he labelled you on of the most talented city builders on RUclips. Very well deserved.
What a kind guy!
Sooo good!
City Planner Plays uses a few quality-of-life mods that seem to really make a difference in his building experiences in Cities: Skylines 2. I don't have any experience myself and don't know whether or not the game retains stability with Thunder Store mods, but he would be a great source for information regarding mod functionality in CS2.
Anarchy is really parctical, haven't had any problems with it, and it's really easy to use. Same for the Line tool, it's really really practical
Tree line tool is brilliant, you change a whole forest to another type or set of trees, Anarchy is great especially for trees and making queys you can put roads in water then with the extended road tool you can add queys then move the land in also you can add a queys to manipulate zoning, dev mode is great for assets cranes, hotels or construction vehicles
And it's like so many empty spaces in springwood that's the sad part please at least feeling those empty all you need to add is buildings and stuff please bring back springwood
I WAS WATING FOR THIS FOR ALMOST A WEEK LETS GOOOOO
i too love road building and making cool layouts in my cities, and cs2 has some of the best road building tools ever in this genre imo. but a mod for lane connecting / furthering the current "no turn/no straight" tools would be 100% helpful. that way i could make slip lanes, and not have turn only lanes use them... mods in this game are amazing so far, and i haven't had any issues (so far).
Beautiful
I've been using them for a while and the only one that I think managed to "damage" my city is one that influenced the cims behaviour, the other ones have been working flawessly. My favorite ones are the plopable buildings, anarchy and line tool. Can't live without them.
24:14 there is a mod for this exact thing which let's you extend the surfaces of buildings using the same node system as the farm fields
Old hillside street would become a state route maybe with a nickname, near me it’s red arrow highway MI. That highway wouldn’t have existed before the first roads into town.
Two "dream mods" I've been thinking about lately, and idk if I have the skill to pull them off but I'll probably give them a shot some time.
The first is Road Geometry Options and would intrduce some aditional behaviour to roundabouts. Cul-de-sacs when a roundabout has only one attached road, which are zoneable and the roundabout island is replaced with flat road surface. When a roundabout has exaftly two roads attached 180° apart it would become a slow point which would also be zonable, but the geometry would adjust so the road isn't wider, replacing the curcle of a roundabout with an elipse, if that makes sense. It would also introduce turning lanes as an upgrade option replacing parking or centre medians.
The other mod is Frontage Zoning. Instead of zoning based on squares, zone along the side of the road and the buildings will fill in wherever they fit. I actually have an idea of how I could make this work, and its totally a bodge. Based on how the signature buildings change the zone of squares underneath them, there should be a way to make growables behave the same way. It should only require rewriting the games building spawn logic, building despawn logic, and zoning ui.
Ideally though, since this is a dream mod, it'd also allow zoning types to overlap so you could more realistically upzone large areas.
Love this video layout much better than the old stuff
I think the extra landscaping mod tools will allow you to pull the surface from the elementary school here at 24:32 towards the edge. Doubt it will ruin the save because it's a built in game mechanic, you're just given access via a handy shortcut under the landscaping tools
I know it’s going to be awhile before you get to Manhattan but when you do I really hope that you build Rockefeller center, a New York staple, and a newer area in the city called Hudson yards. Hudson yards is called that because there is/was massive train yards there but now has become a modern office area will development still going! I encourage you to check it out and great video as always!
Also make sure all the way to the left of the city when facing in you add in the park area that is there in real life, I think it will look good if you keep it like it is in real life
I think the highschool would be complete with a sports field, especially with the water just across the street that plot of land would make for a beautiful stadium
I feel like I may be the only anti-mod commenter but I'm fully staying away from mods until they're supported and I wish more youtubers also were holding back, especially with developer mode, something I knoowww I'm never going to use. I love to see what people accomplish with vanilla!
Check out the mod tree controller its perfect for your needs because it doesn't disable the tree growing mechanism but lets you also put, update and brush trees in every stage of the tree development.
I've got a good few mods running, including anarchy and the line tool, all working flawlessly so far in about 20 hours of use, makes the game far more enjoyable for me
I just cant get over the fact that everything in CS2 looks way to clean. I'm so used to building cities with character in CS1. I just can't seem to get life into CS2, it's all perfect concrete everywhere and perfect green spots in every garden etc. we really need mods.
I got an idea for "Hillside Street". Name it Hillside Avenue, which is an East/West road in Queens, NY, running from Myrtle Avenue to the Nassau County Line.
The mods are good, they are fine, easy to use and quite well implemented now
Surely the line tool should be in there.
I think the problem with the trees is, that:
- they don't take long enough to grow,
- you can only place you saplings or very small trees,
- and they can't become/look old enough.
If it was possible to place trees of any age, you could immediately make places look great instead of having to wait a bunch of years. And if that was possible then it would also be cool if trees actually needed 50 years to grow fully up, because right now the trees are grown up in a few years which is not realistic and also makes every part of the city look kinda the same age.
To really make trees a key factor to realism, they should make it possible that trees grow slower, can be placed at any age and also can become really really old, like 150 years or so and also look old.
yay for mods! also while i love these vidoes i certainly havent forgotten about the miami and oceania series, i know continuing 3 series simultaneously is a massive hassle but could we get some sort of send offs for them? or do you plan on still continuing them?
CS has always had a problem with gaps and corners, so it would be amazing if there was a mod that essentially created corner and weird shaped buildings to fill awkward lots. This would probably be incredibly difficult idk about game design
I was hesitant on mods to but I caved in and downloaded thunderstore. I can't go back to vanilla. Things like Anarchy for placing trees and the Extended Road upgrades is just essential.
i think that introducing mods is perfectly fine but making sure to only use the necessary ones until they become a bit more concrete and official
You could easily solve the Problen with the School, to fill up the triangular space by using Clip Surface in the dev mode. I think that is much more vanilla and much more easy than using mods. I do it all the time and it just makes the game much much more fun. 👍
I'm enjoying Skylines 2 without the mods. Waiting for Paradox mods. Rational or not I don't want to invest the time into a city use the mods and then something happens and the mod isn't compatible and I am potentially left with a broken city. I have never been big on mods though. Great videos! Excited to see your city grow.
11:30 because New York is one of Americas oldest cities. Its like Europe, just kind of everywhere. Before we started to separate ourselves with grids and everything else. Like Boston
make sure to add corner stores and small markets/gas stations in the area with all the row housing
Yes! You should use mods from the thunder store I’ve been using the store for weeks now and have had no problems at all with it. Except it would not allow me to download your map so I’ve been playing on dolphins bay(from the thunder store) also it would be awesome if you made a short vid showing how to manually install your map without thunder store.
ive always wanted a mod that can export the city into other 3d software. Cos then you can import it into driving games like assetto corsa or beamng. I think driving around your own city is the best way to appreciate it
use mods and developer mode, i use mods(line tool, anarchy and many more) and all of my safes are working as before. if u just want to try you can copy your maps to other folder
the two mods i'd get is Anarchy and ExtraLandscapingTools (includes a surface painter) had no issues what so ever running them for 40ish hours, but once i introduced some more mods my game has crashed once in the last 10 hours of my city
Hey Two Dollars- love your videos... I'm honestly sad to hear you say you're not going to focus on prop placement with Anarchy - the detail work is why I've watched you for years! Of course I am not going anywhere but hope you get back to your roots!
I know it's a long ways away, but it would be fitting in the future to name your version of Staten island as officially Straten island as a long running joke in the series..
Would like to see CS2 introduce a feature that allows a user to import a real life road layout as a custom map then Users can “fix” traffic. Could also generate revenue as a standalone product sold to governments for traffic studies or spend estimates if the user was allowed to input custom costs
I hope some talented people will make something like green or wooden skyscrapers. Not politacal, would just be cool to have those in game.
Super easy to use. I cannot imagine to not have mods. Just use ones that do not affect game mechanics. Line tools, extended road tools are a must. Plus Lots of others
No Cap I haven't touched this game since November.
This game really needs mods
Some of the mods aren't too bad. The line tool "shouldnt" break anything as it's not really changing the base game much it just allows speedy placement. I guess the same can be said about the extra road tools. The traffic light mod might have problems but so far so good.
The main problem I have is that I spend all this time placing trees and within 3 or so years of game time they all due (when using the tree mod that allows placing adult trees). Even in vanilla they all eventually die so if you place a lot within a short time you will eventually have to replant them. If you're like me and get pretty particular about your trees/forest this is a huge pain. I'm not sure if the mod that stops the tree aging stops them from dying, or if any mods extend the life but in vanilla, the tree mod that allows you to select age, and with the line tool, they die. And if placing adult trees that's pretty fast
I love this layout so far. Look at jersey city for a similar layout.
New Dimesburg strikes again! All hail our presidente!
aa yes a new episode! when does CS 1 come back?
I think the trees growing feature is good.