I see the music is called 'Secret of Tiki Island' and is by Kevin MacLeod (for anyone who prefers the music to the heater!) (It reminds me of a cross between Star Trek and the muzak played before a movie begins at the cinema!
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I think I’m going to build one of them that looks like fun and I have tons of copper tubing in pint and fittings and everything like the music to pretty relaxing. I wonder if you could use gasoline in it
In the next video on the channel, I test out a number of different fuels, including "white gas" (aka: Coleman camp fuel), which has essentially the same burn properties as gasoline, except with less additives, It works and burns hot and fast.
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Really thorough video, and thanks for showing everything as you do with no bullsh*t. Can you tell me, you know if you had slightly larger diameter copper pipe and more coiled windings, would it generate a lot more heat?
I will solder together a second, flat, Mason Jar style lid about 1/8th of an inch on top of the main flat lid as a way to insulate and prevent a thermal runaway situation. The copper tubing will run through two lids, not one. The threaded Mason Jar ring will be held captive between the two lids, but still free to spin.
Hey, thanks! It's soldered in place with generic silver solder. The goop I spread around before soldering is just flux, can't remember the brand off hand.
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I wish you had put up the 'ingredients' list as you used things. Eg the type of pipe and its dimensions; that stuff that looked a lot like sand but wasn't. I liked your process, I just can't try it myself if I don't know what to use.
@@grelmar Cette démonstration est vraiment intéressante et je pense faire le même système de chauffage pour le auvent ma caravane. J’ai cependant une question : Est-ce un joint pâte que vous mettez sous le couvercle ? Je n’ai pas bien compris… Merci pour votre réponse. Bravo pour votre vidéo ludique et réellement bien tournée pour que tout le monde puisse comprendre le montage étape par étape 👍👏
@@margouep135 Merci encore pour le compliment. J’ai essayé de comprendre pourquoi cette vidéo que j’ai faite il y a plus d’un an est soudainement devenue populaire au cours des derniers mois. Le scellant que j’ai utilisé est un scellant en caoutchouc de silicone, le même que celui que vous utilisez autour du bord d’un évier ou d’une baignoire. Est-ce que cela a du sens? Mon Français est hors pratique de quelques décennies, et je compte un peu sur Google Translate pour obtenir de l’aide.
@@grelmar Merci beaucoup pour votre réponse, j’avais donc bien compris, ce que vous appelez un "scellant" est un "joint de silicone". Votre Français est vraiment bon, je comprends tout parfaitement, merci pour votre effort 👍😉 Encore bravo pour votre vidéo et vos explications, merci à vous.
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The hole is at the base of the coil. The heat from the flame causes the alcohol in the wick the evaporate and flow around to the base and get forced out the hole. This is why you need to prime it to get it going.
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Thank you for doing this. I learn how to do things much better just watching someone do it. What I did with mine was when I soldered the copper loop in, I also soldered a small copper cap in between the legs onto the lid to hold some alcohol "the kind you would solder onto the end of the copper line to cap it off" to light it with. Only question I have is what size drill bit do you use. I used a 3/32
5/32" - Which is a little big, to be honest. With a 3/32, you get more of a "jet" effect with the flame. A 5/32" allows for a wider range of fuel. Alcohol based fuels are going to be thinner/lighter, and flow easier, so 3/32" would be more ideal. Petrochemical based fuels tend to be denser/heavier. They SHOULD work with a smaller vent hole, but 5/32" gives me a bit of a margin of error. Also, soot buildup with the dirtier fuels (like alcohol) is less of a concern with a larger hole. Glad you found this helpful!
Sweet! I have a stack of various wood burning "rocket stove" designs I've made from random metal crap (coffee tins and soup tins, random leftover round ducting, etc). I really hadn't thought of working up one that burned oil, but that's a great idea.
I find it much safer to use cooking oil than alcohol, as it could explode and splash alcohol around if the flame enters the container containing the alcohol while the lid is closed, plus glass at high temperatures can break and spill all the alcohol . Greetings.
The wick pushed up the tubes acts as a flame arrestor, so there really isn't a way for the flame to climb back through the pipe into the fuel chamber. It also slows the flow down to the point where cooking oil doesn't work in this desgin. Glass can shatter if it gets too hot, but again, it's about the design. If you pay attention to keeping the coil about an inch above the lid, not enough heat is transferred to the glass for it to shatter, especially if you use a canning jar, which is specifically made to withstand heat (high borosilicate content glass). Cheers!
@@grelmar I see you said it didn't work with cooking oil. I've been experimenting with that. Saw some videos using carbon felt but it won't stay lit in my experience.
@@eedom69 Yes, cooking oil is too viscous to allow enough flow through the tubes in this kind of setup. I have a Bacon Fat powered stove setup I need to film, that would probably also work with cooking oil (similar enough properties), it's just a matter of having the time to do everything (filming, editing, etc, - it takes a couple or three days, all in, to make one of these little videos). I made these videos while I had a bit of professional downtime, to keep busy, but then got "busy" again with work, and am now at "OMG, make the bad man in scheduling stop" level busy with work.
You are 100% correct. Filling it with sand just prevents kinking when you make a tight bend. Annealing softens the copper, and also helps reduce the chance of the pipe kinking in a tight bend. This pipe was soft enough that I didn't bother, but realistically probably should have, "shortcuts make for long walks" as they say. I got away with not annealing, but it's a step I should have included.
it seems that although this is effective there may be other methods with self containing systems to extinguish if knocked over. Overall it serves it's purpose although with some extra labor and dangers.
Yup. I have multiple flavors of commercial camp stove that outperform this by a mile, and they really aren't that expensive. This is basically something to kill a day doing in the garage.
Whoops, responded from my other account... I tried Kerosene, and it was too viscous, gummed up the wicking action. Veggie oil would have the same result.
@@grelmar Thks & If you ever figure-out how to make a good DIY kerosene or veggie oil burrner, let us know. Oh I put 6candles into a 3lb crisco veg shortening can & will try cook something small on it sooner/later.
@@tombouie I'll poke around a bit and figure something out. Probably do the project in the spring, when it's not too cold to work/film in the garage, and I haven't gotten too busy with summer adventures. Glad you found this helpful!
The orifice is not the same size for all the different fuel types. I have a jet coil stove that has an orifice that is smaller than a sewing needle. It will not burn alcohol. It burns kerosene. If I burn alcohol, the pressure of the jet is too high and the flame burns out. If the stove is hot, liquid alcohol will spew from the orifice. If I burn kerosene, it works perfectly. The alcohol stove seems to need a larger orifice probably to reduce pressure (since alcohol is a lighter liquid than kerosene).
@@totallyfrozen Oh thks, alls-I-gots-tos-dos is drill different size holes into small bolts. Then I could fit my orifice size to my fuel (fingers-cross ;).
Light fuels (gasoline, white fuel/drip gas) work, burn very hot, so you need to pay attention. Heavy fuels (diesel, kerosene, lamp oil) are too viscous, and won't run. I have a video running tests with some common fuels: ruclips.net/video/0H8OJsSbDuY/видео.html
The black can? It's a mini wood gassifier stove and cooking kit a bodged out of old soup tins, a tuna tin, and some coat hanger wire: ruclips.net/video/FnUttxGx0ak/видео.html
I should do a 1 hr burn test of various fuels, and see how much is consumed in each test, to get a rough idea of burn rate over time. Added to "the list of things I should make a video of at some point, but don't hold your breath."
Thanks. No, it does not work with kerosene. I tried it out and the K1 Kerosene I was using was too viscous for the wicking action to allow enough flow to keep the flame alive. It would light, but the flame would not sustain.
Spíš ne. Těsnění na víčku povolí dlouho před sklenicí. A sklo v zavařovacích sklenicích je navrženo tak, aby vydrželo MNOHEM více tepla, než toto zařízení přenese do sklenice.
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Coleman style lamps operate under pressure from the reservoir and require mantles. That's an entirely different kind of beast from this. The Channel "Technology Connections" did a whole series of videos on the subject: ruclips.net/video/D_qFWoa_HR4/видео.html ruclips.net/video/F3rncxf4Or8/видео.html ruclips.net/video/5E4nMfxjA3s/видео.html They're pretty interesting videos, if you have the time (just shy of 2 hours all in, to watch all 3 videos).
does it serve post alcohol? also from what I've seen isopropyl alcohol was used. my intention is to use gas station alcohol mixed with a little gasoline to use for lighting
Curious if you had thick enough cotton sting pushed far enough up the intake? If you just have the intake straight-pipe (without the wicks), then enough fuel can get drawn to cause splatter. If you have thick enough string, pushed up to just before the pipe starts to bend as a coil, it acts as a regulator to prevent to much fuel flow.
@grelmar Thanks, I've .tried doing it with both string and carbon felt with the same results each time. I did use brake pipe though so perhaps the slightly smaller bore size is making the difference.
@@brianlawson1508 Brake line is usually stainless steel, too. Not sure, but maybe the difference in how the steel transfers heat is making a difference?
I understand what you're saying. I was trying, as much as possible, to avoid captions and narrations, and show the process "visually" so it would be understandable by an international audience. I wasn't fully successful on that front, there are things I could have shown more clearly. However, over 1/3 of the views come from non-English speaking countries, so it was at least somewhat of a success. Thanks for the input. Constructive criticism is appreciated.
Nope. Cooking oil is too viscous for the wicking action of this type of burner. Although it will work with classic "Alladin's Lamp" pottery lamps, or with old style whale oil lamps like the ones I have in this video: ruclips.net/video/SDDX1FRq3zs/видео.html
Do you find the unit starts to approach thermal runaway as the copper heats up? (i.e.: start to overflow burning fuel as the unit gets hotter with prolonged operation) . I've found a lot of these alcohol stove designs get hotter and start producing more fuel than can burn off. ( Excluding the open non jet burning designs) Only had one really get almost out of hand in the garage personally but I wondered if this one would behave that way.
I've not had problems with this design. Keeping the coil space an inch above the lid prevents any significant heat transfer to the container, and the use of wicks in the feed tubes acts as an effective flow limiter. Generally, it reaches equilibrium (flow to burn) within a couple minutes, then it's steady state. I've seen runaways where it's a direct feed through the pipe (no wicks to limit flow) and the coil placed too close to the container, allowing heat transfer to the fuel storage, which causes the internal sublimated fuel to heat and expand. That can get really dangerous, and if the heat and pressure exceeds the ability of your coil to vent it, you've basically made an incendiary grenade with an unpredictable timer.
@@grelmar Yes, I agree about the wickless designs for certain, in fact I had an incendiary incedent involving that precise thing. Thanks for your input on the subject I will look at raising the coil. I believe my container is getting too hot. Be safe and thanks.
Actually, yes, you do. When making that tight of bend, even with annealed copper tubing, it's almost guaranteed to kink and form pinch points, unless you fill it with sand, or water, to prevent the tube from deforming.
It's actually better to buy a Trangia and fill it with "any fluid that will catch fire" and use that for cooking. Kinda not the point. The point is to muck around in the shop in your spare time, learn/practice some skills, and gain practical, hands-on experience doing actual productive work, instead of just throwing money at every problem.
@@grelmar I would buy a trangia stove. It is well worth paying for already made unit. My Grandfather taught me ... Don't waste precious time making a wheel or sliced bread when you can already buy it for less. Spend time on more important things.
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Это просто остатки старой сломанной микроволновки. Он не разобьется, когда нагреется, поэтому я держу его при себе для экспериментов с горючими веществами.
I get a chuckle out of how polarizing the music is. Wasn't my intent (I just wanted something funky to keep an otherwise silent video interesting), but the music ended up drawing the bulk of the comments.
Thanks for your reply - I'm thrilled to get a response from the maker of the fantastic heater and video! I guess I'm in the minority as I'm a professional musician (instruments and voice) so my ears might be a bit more sensitive than most peoples'! If I was younger, had the time and inclination and could be bothered (!) I would write (and record) some personalised, unique and perfectly fitting music for your video! But that will have to wait until I've forgotten how to press the off/volume button! @@grelmar I went to the same school as Patrick Stewart and I think the track reminds me of Star Trek (First Edition)! However, I've never seen Star Trek but DO like the signature tune! Weird, eh? Thanks again!
@@Pazair-nq6gl "Para gustos colores" - Que linda expressão. Eu não falo português, apenas usando o Google Tradutor. Obrigado por isso, traduz para o inglês maravilhosamente.
Why did I watch this? Music alone deserving of a thumbs up! How about a small heater?
Could do without that annoying music!
Kinda reminds me of Mexican Latino Caribbean mixed with some original Star trek theme.
I see the music is called 'Secret of Tiki Island' and is by Kevin MacLeod (for anyone who prefers the music to the heater!) (It reminds me of a cross between Star Trek and the muzak played before a movie begins at the cinema!
I love the music. Sounds a little like Martin Denny. Quiet Village.
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I came for the coil wiring but stayed for the music. Nailed it babe
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@@grelmar yes when I heard the first few notes I had to Shazam it immediately. Gorgeous music. Thank you.
@@DiannaAtherton this makes me smile. Kevin's music is EVERYWHERE on RUclips, and he's borderline anonymous. He deserves some recognition.
Fun build and fun music. Thanks!
You're welcome1
Retro " lounge bar 🍸 😎music of the 60s mix of Star trek and the caribean baches, great!
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Totally awesome! Thanks! I may build something like this.
Thanks so much, dude! It makes my day when people use one of these videos as inspiration to tinker and build stuff.
I think I’m going to build one of them that looks like fun and I have tons of copper tubing in pint and fittings and everything like the music to pretty relaxing. I wonder if you could use gasoline in it
In the next video on the channel, I test out a number of different fuels, including "white gas" (aka: Coleman camp fuel), which has essentially the same burn properties as gasoline, except with less additives, It works and burns hot and fast.
Fantastic soundtrack!
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Love the music. It's like Star Trek meets 007
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I love the music to go with it.
I'm going to stick with that track if I get around to doing another video (actually, finishing a video I started a year and a half ago).
Can i use the 1/4 copper tubing it is very flexable ?
Really thorough video, and thanks for showing everything as you do with no bullsh*t. Can you tell me, you know if you had slightly larger diameter copper pipe and more coiled windings, would it generate a lot more heat?
I'm not sure, TBH. A larger diameter pipe might cause the heat pump effect to fail, or might produce a higher flame.
Thanks for the compliment!
I will solder together a second, flat, Mason Jar style lid about 1/8th of an inch on top of the main flat lid as a way to insulate and prevent a thermal runaway situation. The copper tubing will run through two lids, not one. The threaded Mason Jar ring will be held captive between the two lids, but still free to spin.
If you get it up and running, make a vid, I'd love to see it.
what are the other types of fuels that will work in this "multifuel" burner?
Next video on the playlist:
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The music is made me think of old Star Trek shows.
James Kirk, Captain USS enterprise and InterGalactic gigolo.
Love the vid. Quick question. What did you put around the base of the coil to attach it to the cap?
Hey, thanks! It's soldered in place with generic silver solder. The goop I spread around before soldering is just flux, can't remember the brand off hand.
I really like that music!
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love the music. send me the link!
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I wish you had put up the 'ingredients' list as you used things. Eg the type of pipe and its dimensions; that stuff that looked a lot like sand but wasn't. I liked your process, I just can't try it myself if I don't know what to use.
It's just sand. The reason I filled it with sand is to prevent the pipe from kinking when you bend it into a coil.
Nice, hey I like the music too who is it ?
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He has a bunch of free to download, Royalty Free music available for RUclips use etc.
Boss sound trax!! I liked it more than then info on the heater!!¡ music theme' s name please!
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Kon si horare movie ka music dal diya hai
🇫🇷 Pas mal comme système…
Merci beaucoup pour ce partage 👍
De rien. Merci a vous pour le compliment.
@@grelmar
Cette démonstration est vraiment intéressante et je pense faire le même système de chauffage pour le auvent ma caravane.
J’ai cependant une question :
Est-ce un joint pâte que vous mettez sous le couvercle ? Je n’ai pas bien compris… Merci pour votre réponse.
Bravo pour votre vidéo ludique et réellement bien tournée pour que tout le monde puisse comprendre le montage étape par étape 👍👏
@@margouep135 Merci encore pour le compliment. J’ai essayé de comprendre pourquoi cette vidéo que j’ai faite il y a plus d’un an est soudainement devenue populaire au cours des derniers mois.
Le scellant que j’ai utilisé est un scellant en caoutchouc de silicone, le même que celui que vous utilisez autour du bord d’un évier ou d’une baignoire.
Est-ce que cela a du sens? Mon Français est hors pratique de quelques décennies, et je compte un peu sur Google Translate pour obtenir de l’aide.
@@grelmar
Merci beaucoup pour votre réponse, j’avais donc bien compris, ce que vous appelez un "scellant" est un "joint de silicone".
Votre Français est vraiment bon, je comprends tout parfaitement, merci pour votre effort 👍😉
Encore bravo pour votre vidéo et vos explications, merci à vous.
Muchas gracias,
De nada
Would it work with veg oil?
I'll answer on your other reply, but short answer = "No."
love the music so different from the same old poop
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What are you pouring into the copper tube?
Sand. It's to prevent the copper tube from kinking when you bend it around the pipe.
I love the exotica music!
1 thumbs up for the video 👍 another for background music 👍
Well, it must be me. I'm confused.
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@@grelmar thanks 😊
Why does the coil flame up, if there’s no hole to let the alcohol out?
The hole is at the base of the coil. The heat from the flame causes the alcohol in the wick the evaporate and flow around to the base and get forced out the hole. This is why you need to prime it to get it going.
The music 🎶 🎵 👌
This is really cool to see, thank you for the video!
Wicked music on this one!
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Thank you for doing this. I learn how to do things much better just watching someone do it. What I did with mine was when I soldered the copper loop in, I also soldered a small copper cap in between the legs onto the lid to hold some alcohol "the kind you would solder onto the end of the copper line to cap it off" to light it with. Only question I have is what size drill bit do you use. I used a 3/32
5/32" - Which is a little big, to be honest. With a 3/32, you get more of a "jet" effect with the flame. A 5/32" allows for a wider range of fuel. Alcohol based fuels are going to be thinner/lighter, and flow easier, so 3/32" would be more ideal. Petrochemical based fuels tend to be denser/heavier. They SHOULD work with a smaller vent hole, but 5/32" gives me a bit of a margin of error. Also, soot buildup with the dirtier fuels (like alcohol) is less of a concern with a larger hole.
Glad you found this helpful!
Cool lamp, I made a rocket stove to burn used engine oil with no smoke with just stuff laying around , I hear my shed for free now!
Sweet! I have a stack of various wood burning "rocket stove" designs I've made from random metal crap (coffee tins and soup tins, random leftover round ducting, etc). I really hadn't thought of working up one that burned oil, but that's a great idea.
You got any pics or videos of it?
@@kshofat4 Added to the "list of things I should get around to making a video of, but don't hold your breath."
I find it much safer to use cooking oil than alcohol, as it could explode and splash alcohol around if the flame enters the container containing the alcohol while the lid is closed, plus glass at high temperatures can break and spill all the alcohol .
Greetings.
The wick pushed up the tubes acts as a flame arrestor, so there really isn't a way for the flame to climb back through the pipe into the fuel chamber. It also slows the flow down to the point where cooking oil doesn't work in this desgin.
Glass can shatter if it gets too hot, but again, it's about the design. If you pay attention to keeping the coil about an inch above the lid, not enough heat is transferred to the glass for it to shatter, especially if you use a canning jar, which is specifically made to withstand heat (high borosilicate content glass).
Cheers!
@@grelmar I see you said it didn't work with cooking oil. I've been experimenting with that. Saw some videos using carbon felt but it won't stay lit in my experience.
@@eedom69 Yes, cooking oil is too viscous to allow enough flow through the tubes in this kind of setup.
I have a Bacon Fat powered stove setup I need to film, that would probably also work with cooking oil (similar enough properties), it's just a matter of having the time to do everything (filming, editing, etc, - it takes a couple or three days, all in, to make one of these little videos).
I made these videos while I had a bit of professional downtime, to keep busy, but then got "busy" again with work, and am now at "OMG, make the bad man in scheduling stop" level busy with work.
If you had annealed the copper before filling with sand, it would bend like butter, very easy.
You are 100% correct. Filling it with sand just prevents kinking when you make a tight bend. Annealing softens the copper, and also helps reduce the chance of the pipe kinking in a tight bend. This pipe was soft enough that I didn't bother, but realistically probably should have, "shortcuts make for long walks" as they say. I got away with not annealing, but it's a step I should have included.
can this used for coconut oil?
I honestly have no idea. Not exactly a commonly sourced material up here in the Great White North.
If I can track some down, I might give it a try.
it seems that although this is effective there may be other methods with self containing systems to extinguish if knocked over. Overall it serves it's purpose although with some extra labor and dangers.
Yup. I have multiple flavors of commercial camp stove that outperform this by a mile, and they really aren't that expensive.
This is basically something to kill a day doing in the garage.
Thks & ?will it burn other none dangerous fuels like veg-oil, kerosene, etc?
Whoops, responded from my other account...
I tried Kerosene, and it was too viscous, gummed up the wicking action. Veggie oil would have the same result.
@@grelmar Thks & If you ever figure-out how to make a good DIY kerosene or veggie oil burrner, let us know. Oh I put 6candles into a 3lb crisco veg shortening can & will try cook something small on it sooner/later.
@@tombouie I'll poke around a bit and figure something out. Probably do the project in the spring, when it's not too cold to work/film in the garage, and I haven't gotten too busy with summer adventures.
Glad you found this helpful!
The orifice is not the same size for all the different fuel types. I have a jet coil stove that has an orifice that is smaller than a sewing needle. It will not burn alcohol. It burns kerosene. If I burn alcohol, the pressure of the jet is too high and the flame burns out. If the stove is hot, liquid alcohol will spew from the orifice. If I burn kerosene, it works perfectly. The alcohol stove seems to need a larger orifice probably to reduce pressure (since alcohol is a lighter liquid than kerosene).
@@totallyfrozen
Oh thks, alls-I-gots-tos-dos is drill different size holes into small bolts.
Then I could fit my orifice size to my fuel (fingers-cross ;).
Ty
YW
would be used to gas and fuel and alchokol?
Light fuels (gasoline, white fuel/drip gas) work, burn very hot, so you need to pay attention. Heavy fuels (diesel, kerosene, lamp oil) are too viscous, and won't run.
I have a video running tests with some common fuels:
ruclips.net/video/0H8OJsSbDuY/видео.html
What's that in the can.can we hear a voice?
The black can? It's a mini wood gassifier stove and cooking kit a bodged out of old soup tins, a tuna tin, and some coat hanger wire:
ruclips.net/video/FnUttxGx0ak/видео.html
hi there, next time test with 100ml of Ip and how much time it will last.
I should do a 1 hr burn test of various fuels, and see how much is consumed in each test, to get a rough idea of burn rate over time.
Added to "the list of things I should make a video of at some point, but don't hold your breath."
Why you use sand into the tube?
It prevents the tube from kinking when you bend it.
@@grelmar Ok, I understand now, thank you very much
@@matiassilbestro638 Awesome! Glad I could clear that up. Have a fun weekend!
Great work, but can it work on kerosene? I hope for a response. Thank you for sharing.
Thanks. No, it does not work with kerosene. I tried it out and the K1 Kerosene I was using was too viscous for the wicking action to allow enough flow to keep the flame alive. It would light, but the flame would not sustain.
What about the fuel consumption ?. How long it took to burn the oil?
Dunno for sure, never specifically tested it. That small jar will run the flame for hours (3 or 4, if I recall) on most of the fuels I've tried.
Hezká časovaná bomba až se to celé přehřeje a přetlakem nebo teplem praskne sklo.
Spíš ne. Těsnění na víčku povolí dlouho před sklenicí. A sklo v zavařovacích sklenicích je navrženo tak, aby vydrželo MNOHEM více tepla, než toto zařízení přenese do sklenice.
Cool music!
"The Secret of Tiki Island" by: Kevin MacLeod, incompetech.com
Sou Brasileiro,gostei da ideia
Obrigado, do Canadá.
What is that Music ?
"Secret of Tiki Island" Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
He's got lots of fun stuff. Kevin MacLeod secretly powers the audio tracks of probably half the independent creators on RUclips. He's an unsung hero.
Music sounds like what they used in the film Ed Wood.
"Secret of Tiki Island" Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
He's got lots of fun stuff. Kevin MacLeod secretly powers the audio tracks of probably half the independent creators on RUclips. He's an unsung hero.
how long does the fuel last for 1Lt?
Honestly, not sure. I never really did any burn rates tests.
What's the background music??????
"The Secret of Tiki Island" by Kevin Macleod, incompetech.com
He has a bunch of free to download, Royalty Free music available for RUclips use etc.
do you have to make more splashes to carbonate cooking oil? because I want to make a coleman style lamp
Coleman style lamps operate under pressure from the reservoir and require mantles. That's an entirely different kind of beast from this.
The Channel "Technology Connections" did a whole series of videos on the subject:
ruclips.net/video/D_qFWoa_HR4/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/F3rncxf4Or8/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/5E4nMfxjA3s/видео.html
They're pretty interesting videos, if you have the time (just shy of 2 hours all in, to watch all 3 videos).
Does anyone know the name of the music track in this vid please?
"The Secret of Tiki Island" by: Kevin MacLeod, incompetech.com
Awesome ingenuity 👍😎...
Q:... You think fiberglass wick will work well?
Thanks. Not sure if a fiberglass wick would work, no experience with them.
@@grelmar
Working ok👍...but I will try cotton next time...
When sealing the lid around copper tube,I soldered it and work great👍😎
@@ellissmithjr6599 love it! Keep tinkering, that's what it's ll about.
Is the music Yma Sumac ?
"The Secret of Tiki Island" by: Kevin MacLeod, incompetech.com
This music haunted me after a week
hoooo Hoooooo
🤣Booga-booga-BOO!
have you made videos using other fuels?
Yes:
studio.ruclips.net/user/video0H8OJsSbDuY/edit
Would it work with oil?
No. Cooking oil and K1 Kerosene are both too viscous and thick to work with the wicking action of this particular design.
Does it run on diesel or vegetable oil too?
Вона працює за рахунок того, що горить пара спирту або іншого палива. Тому жири або масла не підійдуть, вони не дають пару, яка горить
does it serve post alcohol? also from what I've seen isopropyl alcohol was used. my intention is to use gas station alcohol mixed with a little gasoline to use for lighting
@@resgatemusical.2070 Here's the tests I have on video:
studio.ruclips.net/user/video0H8OJsSbDuY/edit
Nice old vice
Thanks. It came with the house/garage. The house is 112 years old now, the vice is maybe a couple years younger than that.
Alguien me podría explicar por favor hablo solo español en serio me interesa saber como hacerlo
I made one of these and it spits fuel out of the small (1.5mm) hole as it's burning, which is quite dangerous. Any one know why?
Curious if you had thick enough cotton sting pushed far enough up the intake? If you just have the intake straight-pipe (without the wicks), then enough fuel can get drawn to cause splatter. If you have thick enough string, pushed up to just before the pipe starts to bend as a coil, it acts as a regulator to prevent to much fuel flow.
@grelmar Thanks, I've .tried doing it with both string and carbon felt with the same results each time. I did use brake pipe though so perhaps the slightly smaller bore size is making the difference.
@@brianlawson1508 Brake line is usually stainless steel, too. Not sure, but maybe the difference in how the steel transfers heat is making a difference?
Helpful video, but the narration could’ve been clearer.
I understand what you're saying. I was trying, as much as possible, to avoid captions and narrations, and show the process "visually" so it would be understandable by an international audience.
I wasn't fully successful on that front, there are things I could have shown more clearly. However, over 1/3 of the views come from non-English speaking countries, so it was at least somewhat of a success.
Thanks for the input. Constructive criticism is appreciated.
What's up with the creepy music
Cool
Thanks!
Jet hole is too big! These are meant to be a self pressurising burner.
Yes, except with a larger hole, it accommodates a wider range of fuels.
I burn mine without a wick ,u might be surprised how well it works
If I can find some time to risk setting fire to the garage and make more videos, I'll give it a go.
Is it possible to use used cooking oil?
Não nesse sistema
Nope. Cooking oil is too viscous for the wicking action of this type of burner. Although it will work with classic "Alladin's Lamp" pottery lamps, or with old style whale oil lamps like the ones I have in this video:
ruclips.net/video/SDDX1FRq3zs/видео.html
Tea time in 5 minutes !!!
LMAO, your timing is perfect. I just sat down with a cuppa camomile to check my messages before bed.
Mysterious……well doon lad…
I hate ppl who can't explain what their doing...
Put mix fruits in jar, it turns into molotov cocktail
Heh, I have better recipes for that. And cheaper. Have you seen the price of fruit at the grocery store lately?
May be Napalm?
Do you find the unit starts to approach thermal runaway as the copper heats up?
(i.e.: start to overflow burning fuel as the unit gets hotter with prolonged operation) . I've found a lot of these alcohol stove designs get hotter and start producing more fuel than can burn off. ( Excluding the open non jet burning designs)
Only had one really get almost out of hand in the garage personally but I wondered if this one would behave that way.
I've not had problems with this design. Keeping the coil space an inch above the lid prevents any significant heat transfer to the container, and the use of wicks in the feed tubes acts as an effective flow limiter.
Generally, it reaches equilibrium (flow to burn) within a couple minutes, then it's steady state.
I've seen runaways where it's a direct feed through the pipe (no wicks to limit flow) and the coil placed too close to the container, allowing heat transfer to the fuel storage, which causes the internal sublimated fuel to heat and expand.
That can get really dangerous, and if the heat and pressure exceeds the ability of your coil to vent it, you've basically made an incendiary grenade with an unpredictable timer.
@@grelmar Yes, I agree about the wickless designs for certain, in fact I had an incendiary incedent involving that precise thing. Thanks for your input on the subject I will look at raising the coil. I believe my container is getting too hot.
Be safe and thanks.
@@grelmar Also noting the 3/32 update over the 5/32 diameter regarding the jet orifice. Thanks.
@@FurtiveSkeptical that was a bit of a lucky guess, on my part. But it worked out really well.
You didn't need to fill with sand
Actually, yes, you do. When making that tight of bend, even with annealed copper tubing, it's almost guaranteed to kink and form pinch points, unless you fill it with sand, or water, to prevent the tube from deforming.
@@grelmar what's the diameter and material of the pipe you used
@@richiec9077 4mm OD 3mm ID soft copper (annealed).
Nice project but your music is annoying.
Heh, the music is love it or leave it. But there's no audible narration, so you can mute the videos. That's intentional.
It is better to buy a Tiki canister and fill will oil.
It's actually better to buy a Trangia and fill it with "any fluid that will catch fire" and use that for cooking.
Kinda not the point. The point is to muck around in the shop in your spare time, learn/practice some skills, and gain practical, hands-on experience doing actual productive work, instead of just throwing money at every problem.
@@grelmar I would buy a trangia stove. It is well worth paying for already made unit.
My Grandfather taught me ... Don't waste precious time making a wheel or sliced bread when you can already buy it for less. Spend time on more important things.
@@mrBDeye
"Time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time."
quoteinvestigator.com/2010/06/11/time-you-enjoy/
@@grelmar Ha ha. I see you are trying to waste my time. Thanks friend!
@@mrBDeye Hope you enjoyed this temporary diversion from the existential dread of our inevitable demise. Cheers!
Can't concentrate on the video. Music's too good.
"Secret of Tiki Island" Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
He's got lots of fun stuff. Kevin MacLeod secretly powers the audio tracks of probably half the independent creators on RUclips. He's an unsung hero.
@@grelmar thank you grelmar.
@@daizyflower272 You're welcome.
Mars attack
Ok, I gotta ask... While it was an awesome movie, it relates how?
B-52's
Стеклянная тарелка от микроволновки!) Показывай что с ней сделал .
Это просто остатки старой сломанной микроволновки. Он не разобьется, когда нагреется, поэтому я держу его при себе для экспериментов с горючими веществами.
creepy music
"The Secret of Tiki Island" by Kevin Macleod, incompetech.com
He has a bunch of free to download, Royalty Free music available for RUclips use etc.
😂🗣orrible ésa música 😂😂
Крел
WTF is that so called music ?
"The Secret of Tiki Island" by Kevin Macleod, incompetech.com
He has a bunch of free to download, Royalty Free music available for RUclips use etc.
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The music was scary so I quit watching it
Not entirely sure you're being sarcastic, but I'll give that a like anyway.
Great video! Dreadful music!!
I get a chuckle out of how polarizing the music is. Wasn't my intent (I just wanted something funky to keep an otherwise silent video interesting), but the music ended up drawing the bulk of the comments.
Thanks for your reply - I'm thrilled to get a response from the maker of the fantastic heater and video! I guess I'm in the minority as I'm a professional musician (instruments and voice) so my ears might be a bit more sensitive than most peoples'! If I was younger, had the time and inclination and could be bothered (!) I would write (and record) some personalised, unique and perfectly fitting music for your video! But that will have to wait until I've forgotten how to press the off/volume button! @@grelmar I went to the same school as Patrick Stewart and I think the track reminds me of Star Trek (First Edition)! However, I've never seen Star Trek but DO like the signature tune! Weird, eh? Thanks again!
It's mildly interesting, but the goofy horror music kills it. For that reason alone it should get a dislike.
Then turn off the volume and play some Nine Inch Nails instead.
No matter what music I add, some people will like it, others hate it.
o fundo musical é horrível
Alguns gostam, outros não, você pode apertar o mudo e ouvir o que quiser.
Para gustos ...
@@Pazair-nq6gl "Para gustos colores" - Que linda expressão. Eu não falo português, apenas usando o Google Tradutor. Obrigado por isso, traduz para o inglês maravilhosamente.