THE GALLEY BOX - geeky video 1
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- In my opinion the best way to set up your kitchen in a cruising dinghy is to create a galley box. This video shows you around mine.
The stove I use is a Dometic Origo 1500. Dometic recently retooled this well-loved stove and gave it a new streamlined and refreshed design. Presumably they spent too much money on this pointless exercise, because almost immediately afterwards they decided to stop making the stove entirely, in favour of their electric and gas boat stoves - saying that the sales didn't justify the investment in the Origo. Perhaps someone else will be allowed to take over the manufacture of these excellent stoves, but at present you can only obtain them second hand, and even spares are becoming difficult to obtain. They are very robustly made in stainless steel however, and very long lasting, so it is worth trying to pick up one second hand.
The brief competitor to the Origo was called “Cookmate”. It was, I believe, made in the same factory, and happened because of some sort of trademark dispute.
Here for comparison is a video about a galley box designed around a Trangia alcohol stove: • Building a galley box ...
As these stoves are basically a pot of burning liquid I would only use them in a boat if the stove is well fixed down, and cannot be upset.
NEW HOPE FOR ALCOHOL STOVE FANS!
The stove in my boat is now marketed by Compass Marine: www.compass24....
Meanwhile a friend has found this:
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And another one has found this:
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So suddenly the world is full of alcohol stoves!
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AVEL DRO
Do you want a boat like mine?
Avel
is an Ilur designed by François Vivier, and built of clinker plywood by Les Charpentiers Reunis of Cancale in 1994. The design is based closely on the traditional inshore fishing boats of Brittany in the early years of the twentieth century, hence her single boom-less lugsail rig and lack of a mainsheet horse, (sometimes controversial among my viewers). Although rare in Britain, Ilurs are relatively common in France. The name Avel Dro is Breton, and means a shifting wind.
Length 4.44 m
Sail area 12.2 m²
Beam 1.70 m
Draught 0.25 / 0.86 m
Design category C3
François Vivier's website (in English):
www.vivierboats...
Similar dinghies can often be found for sale in the French magazine le Chasse-Marée:
www.chasse-mar...
Or try Le Bon Coin, (where you can buy anything in France):
www.leboncoin.fr
The order in this man's life is so soothing and oddly satisfying. Thank you for the insights
@Thomas Mack
Dude, I've seen this comment of yours all over the place. I've reported you for spam and/or harassment of another person, amd will continue to everytime I see it.
Get used to it
Third place is still on the podium! Thanks, Roger for all of the content, a calm few moments in a hectic time. Peace and stay safe.
The boxes are a beautiful and practical addition to your boat. If time permits, a short video on oaring and sculling would be nice. Sail on!
It seem useful!
Hi Roger. I have watched your channel for a long time, but never went sailing! Perhaps while we're all locked away, you could explain things to us beginners like: Where to get a boat, what kind of boat to look for, what qualifications are needed, what type of navigation aids do you use (if any). What are the regulations, laws, etc. we should be aware of in the UK (and Europe). What is the minimum kit you recommend for a new starter, etc..
RUclips seriously needs a ❤️ button. Great video! Thanks again Roger. Your stuff is always interesting.
Thanks for the video, Roger! It would be interesting to see a similar video of the electric system of your boat too.
Oh I do love the geeky stuff. Thanks for sharing
Roger you could show us some paint drying and we would be interested called and intrigued lol ... arty stuff is good too , and thanks for the quick glimpse of the square as we can’t get down there obviously at the mo pfff ,,, it may change this week though so chin up my Friend ... Neil , Liz and Barneyboo the Cockerpoo .. x
From the start: Ooo this is interesting
7:00 Now we are talking - SOLD!! - I'm making one
Thanks Roger, very interesting. And thanks for showing us the inside of the Alcohol stove, I've often wondered how they worked!
Thanks for that. I will be making something similar. Could you sometime show how you boat is rigged. It would be useful to someone new to lug sails.
'the pestilence that stalks the world' best description of those times I have ever heard :)
Hullo Roger. Reporting in from Nz. Now for the cooking show. I mean you can't just show us the stove, without cooking something. Great channel. Take care mate.
I boiled some water. What more do you want?
@@RogerRoving brewing the coffee ,to imagine the aroma of it would be great! LOL.
@@RogerRoving my comment was a bit tongue in cheek. Or was it? All the best.
@@bryanbadger6841 so was Rogers!
Roger, love your galley box and Origo stove. If you ever want to sell these items let me know. Ingenious. Thank you for your videos,,,they are a joy.
Anything from you is great Roger!
Origos are GREAT... I use a two burner version of them in my campervan for many years now...wonderful piece of kit. Like sailors I don't like gas, possible gas leaks and a bilge born explosion...
Thanks for sharing the details! 👍
Need to make a galley box for next season too!
Picnic on Rat Island?
@@GingerTwiglet 😁 and anywhere else I can sail to! 😁
I can't believe that I watched your video a whole year ago. So much has changed, so much the same. I've been chatting to mates in Oz about their galley boxes which must have brought up an incentive for YT to get me to look over your video once again.
Anyway, I noticed that you had a butane lighter which we no longer use. Given we spent a lot of time camping during Covid we acquired a lot of nifty devices which not we can't live without. We have thrown away many of those gas lighters. I'm not sure if they could be refilled or not, but we've never tried.
What we have converted to is these cheap electric lighters. Recharageable types via USB and so far none thrown out. Simply plugged into a power bank or some sort of outfil that allows for USB charging and away you go. In my opinion they are a lot safer and a lot faster to light. We use them on our Thetford gas stove with our camper and with our usual gas BBQ and heater at home. At a pinch, they can light a mozzie coil, although it does seem to clag up the electrodes. Anyway, I'm sure that you could get them in the UK. Here they cost around $8-9 including delivery off Ebay. I'm sure that would mean around 4pounds there. Anyway, for what it's worth.
My box, very similar in size and layout, is designed around a large Trangia with a gas conversion to run off modern mini camping gas cartridges (with the threaded connectors with built in valves). It's so much more efficient and controllable than the standard alcohol burner. I've used Origos in the past and while I've nothing against them, my set up is easily a third the price of what they demand 2nd hand. I've also started to switch to coated aluminium, either hard coated or non-stick (Trangia offer both). The health risk of prolonged use of bare aluminium is well documented. One great addition has been a children's silicone baking set at Lakeland. For £11 you get five half-sized utensils, three of which are spatula, 'spoonula' and a flat flipper/turner. Great for non-stick pans, easy to store, plus a well scraped pan massively cuts down on washing up! Also, if you're not a chef and fed up of the usual instant food, try French military rations (search ebay for 'RCIR'). They're not cheap but they keep for years, contain all you need for 24 hours and the quality is superb!
In fact there is no health risk from aluminium. The allegation is based on a scientific misunderstanding.
Whilst not sailing related, I paddle open canoes (and sail them too) but I have a plastic waterproof tool box that I use as my "Wanagan" (camp kitchen). Its good to see your ideas for food prep and consumption, as they often spark the imagination for improvements to my own setup. That stove is just the ticket for your situation. I have recently converted to Trangias, if only because I have a better idea of how much fuel I have left, rather than shaking a gas cannister and estimating.
Really enjoy your videos as you have a very nice relaxed delivery. Keep them coming.
Thoroughly enjoyed it, I have a larger boat with galley, however, there is a major attraction to a less complicated way of getting out sailing.
Cheers keep up the good work.
Thanks, Roger. Just listening to you is calming. And, by the way, I love your galley box...very clever.
I took a chance and shared your Art video with my granddaughter and her fiancé (in Alabama) who claim to have loved it. Thank you Roger.
Thank you for continuing the lovely videos Roger. Stay safe. The nonsense will be over soon!
Always appreciate your videos Roger, even as a none sailor, so do keep 'em coming and thanks
Roger you can buy bioethanol in B&Q in the UK. Just look in the garden section. A great replacement for meths and I use it in my "primitive" Trangia stove that I've had for 25 years. Thanks for a great and informative video.
In March I watched the first video you made when you we're under quarantine. It changed my perspective and got me to think deeply. Thank you for that.
I know a lot of small boat sailors who like those stoves; it was a mystery to me why they stopped making them. Very nice video, Roger.
Some countries have banned the general sale of alcohol. You have to go to a chemist and have a "valid" reason to buy it.
@@elbob3631 What is the problem with having alcohol generally available? From time to time I use it as a solvent also quite often as a disinfectant. Should I be protected from myself? And how do you go about getting permission to buy alcohol?
@@davej7458 yes, nanny state government protecting you.
You need to find a friendly chemist and gave a chat to get supply
@@elbob3631 the stoves used denatured alcohol and cannot be consumed. IMO Dometic bought a competitor so they could shut down Origo.
Oi Roger! Much thanks for all your Brilliant video content! I enjoy ever one Sir. You stay safe and healthy My friend. Happy Holidays!
Greetings from Japan, Roger.
Your musings (elderly oaks in the English countryside, art and humanity etc) are all enjoyable.
So please just post what is on your mind and what is important to you and your existence.
Thank you as always, Gary
Brilliant design! Would like to see how you prepare your favourite cruising meals. I’m sure you have had lots of experience of what works and what doesn’t! Bon appétit 😋
Noticed your boxes in your Raid Basin d'Arcachon video and really wanted to see them. Very quickly and happily found this and enjoyed a second of your videos.
Hi Roger
Love all your videos. Can't stop watching them. You ask if there are other subjects you could make a video off. Well I am curious how you organized your electric power supply. I know you have a battery on board but no engine and I haven't seen solar panels of windmills
Roger, I love your videos. I'm a young sailor from Maryland,USA And I love your overnight camping trip videos. These videos are very helpful
Thanks for not editing out the coaster falling from the mug. Happens to me all the time. Love the brass and rope fixings, very fitting, pardon the pun.
Neat! ...and wonderfully evolved!
Thanks for the info and sharing your knowledge. I'll happy watch these films whether they're geeky, boat or philosophy based. Keep up the great work.
I travel in a minivan and have been reworking and fine tuning my galley setup. Have admired yours many times in these videos. Thanks for sharing.
I should do more videos like this. I was surprised how long I managed to talk about one little wooden box.
Glad to hear that capsizing is an "infrequent event". I enjoy your style of presentation. Looking forward to tea with you someday after you have "put the kettle on" this stove. Cheers!
I for one...always wanted to see inside the box.
Hi Roger, I built a similar box myself after seeing your (excellent) one. I had a devil of a job finding that heatproof liner. Other viewers might like to know it's made by Beldray (ref. eh0686), called "Marble effect laminate hearth insert".
Thank you Paul! Trouble is I bought it on a whim and didn’t fit it in the box for years. By then I’d forgotten what it called itself.
Very nice boxes!
Being a busy little ebayer surfer, especially in these pandemic times, I popped off to look for an Origo, and there were a few.
Any links would be appreciated Andy as I have had a search and drawn a blank. Thanks.
@@DaveandGinny972 Really sorry. Also checked, and the couple I saw have gone. There must be some fast reactors. There are parts and nearly completes. I would just do a couple of searches per week (I do that sort of thing) for Origo stove and alcohol stove.
Loved this one - the practical side of cruising has always interested me and your setup there is a great combination of practicality, quality and aesthetics. More of this type of video would be great.
Merci Roger pour le filon de chez compass, je viens de recevoir ce matin mon rechaud 1500 après 4 mois d attente (il étaient en cours de ré approvisionnement !)
Très bien !
I love your Galley box..Rocer..Little and practice
You are really great! Like your videos a lot!
"I have two of everything, because I have often two of me on board." (At 6:40)
Possibly the best and most accurate comment yet. We all need to consult the experts, thats why we talk to ourselves.
I think it's because our brain's speech centres need to be constantly active in order to not lose perspicacity (sp).
Great to rewatch some of your old videos roger while hoping for new one to watch very soon
Roger, will you do some more architectural videos? I love sailing and architecture! You are the best!
Lovely; and the boxes look like something straight off a square rigger. Love the stove; always hated gas. Thanks Roger.
Merci pour le partage Roger.
🙏👍
Roger, great video 😀 I wish you narrated audiobooks, you have such a nice voice. Good setup you have for the galley, very well thought out.
That was really interesting, thanks
I loved this video.
Thank You, for a wonderful tour of your galley
Love this! Love a good stove video. Keep the geeky videos coming. Off to the shed in the morning to start work on one of these 😊 . Cheers Roger.
Thanks for showing us your cooking setup. I was curious what the stove was.
Excellent geeky look inside your galley box, thank you Roger! The camping aspect of Dinghy camping/cruising particularly appeals to me. Your Rogue Mariner on the Upper Thames video is what got this non-sailor hooked on your films.
Since you asked for topic suggestions, might you perhaps discuss sometime how and why you became enthralled with this corner of France?
Take care and ride out this storm. ATB
Thanks Roger. Stay safe mate. Down here we know it’s worth the effort. Just keep the nutters away and sail when you can
What a wonderful series idea!! I love the endless ingenuity of that little box.
Could you perhaps do a video showing your process for passage planning? I'd be curious to see how you approach it. Or maybe your maintenance routine and the kind of things you have to do to keep Avel Dro looking sleek and classy! Love from Ireland
Excellent demonstration, merci!
You are a total OCD nerd and and love you for it. CPG for every occasion. "I dont turn over that often"
Dear Roger,
I absolutely love your channel! The dometic origo is sold (in the Netherlands) under a different name, Electrolux Origo 1500 (for the single stove). And electrolux 3000 for the double stove. Keep up the good work! Martijn (from the Netherlands).
Wonderful design. Thank you for sharing.
You have inspired me to try to make one for my sailboat. Cheers, S/V Cork ~
Thanks - enjoyed watching.
I little moment of escapism.
Hi Roger. It would be nice to see a video on the type of clothing you use when sailing. As a novice I see so much info on modern synthetic gear,but personally I like natural products. I would be interested in the kit you use and also any safety items like buoyancy aids etc .
His book has some interesting information on clothes and gear.
I was going to ask you how you extinguished the stove then you showed us its workings and all became clear. Because you turned a knob and like a gas stove , it went off. But with an alcohol stove it needs to be starved of oxygen, and the knob clearly shows that it operates a sort of aperture that does that. A very nice stove, thanks for the video.
Turn the knob to close the damper which also act as a cover to the flame hole in the canister. This makes enough of a seal to prevent the fuel from evaporating when the stove is stowed away
Yes, you showed it before, but not in detail. I would be interested in a detailed walk thru of your boat and its equipment - with pros and cons explained. Thanks and stay healthy!
Thank you Roger. Very instructional and informative. Keep making more.
Thank you for your wonderful video. I do enjoy every video you post and I look forward to them. I shared your video, " Art in Life ", with a friend of ours who is an artist and she was delighted with how it caused a flood of emotion and ideas to spring to her mind. Thank you again, Bill in Wisconsin, USA
Another great video, always educational and thought provoking, thanks Roger. I just spotted a Dometic EK1600 at Force4 for £180, so yes, alcohol stoves everywhere! Off to read and research Ilurs now :-)
Roger you are wonderful.....lovely video. Of course the reason I love my trangia is it goes on my camping, expeditions, cycling trips, overnight bivvys......and the smell of meths .....wonderful stuff 😄
Great video and usefully designed stove box. For people looking to build similar, look up 'oven liner' for an inexpensive fire proof lining solution.
Thanks for the calming moment sir!
Thank you Roger ! Always a great pleasure to watch your videos
Thank you. Be safe. Cheers
Oh! So many memories you raise. I had a two burner cook stove version (name escapes me) and loved it. They were all Stainless steel.
The meth spirits is all we can obtain here, and the sharp smell was a bit bothersome. I filled the tanks by holding them on their side, to get a full filling.
We had a 22 foot wooden sloop for years - miss it - but still use the stove !
Rodney Vancouver Island
What a genius concept! Compact and practical. This setup will work great for car or canoe camping too.
Hi Roger. I've watched a lot of your videos but haven't commented yet. Thanks for everything you've done. You've inspired me to go dinghy cruising and it should hopefully become reality pretty soon. Since you asked for suggestions at the end of your video: what about how you go about preparing a cruise? Talk about researching tides, routes, weather forecasts, launching ramps, identifying anchorages/stopping points. Where do you get your information? How do you make it into a plan? A second idea would be to talk about the navigational equipment you have on board: GPS? What type? Charts? Chartplotter? Bearing compass? A third idea would be safety equipment (beyond the obvious: anchor, oars and preparation): VHF? EPIRB? Lifejackets? A fourth idea would be around clothing: footwear, keeping warm, keeping dry, what do you do when it rains en route? You've probably covered it all in your book, but I haven't read it yet ;-) All best, Joshua
One of the difficulties we found about cooking on the boat was dealing with garbage, we had storage for 6 months of food, three weeks of water, but two days of garbage. It got ripe occasionally!
That will be an excellent solution for any camper.
Having something that protects against wind would be wonderful.
I would buy wooden utensils from a woodworker in Telemark, Norway. He uses birch, not bamboo.
I would also go for a Swing-a-way can opener. Hardened steel beats everything.
Love the proper English language. Nice video sir. Fair weather ahead.
Thank you so much for your videos
a great galley box Roger.. brilliant design
Thanks Roger. I agree completely with your feelings about the Origo stove. I bought my 25-foot sailboat 35 years ago and the first major improvement was to buy a two-burner Origo to replace the pressure alcohol stove that came with the boat. The stove has worked flawlessly.
Your videos are wonderful! The first time through I watched as an interested dinghy camper. These became quite soothing during the winter months. Now that it's spring these are valuable "instructional" videos because they are experiential. It looks easy and inviting, but the organization and preparation are exquisite. Thank you!
I have built a similar box using a trangia. It was available as the origin was hard to find. Works well. Great vidoe to show us your set up
Very interesting Roger. Thanks and regards Michael
Well, it's the end of November, it's cold and rainy or snowy or too windy, a good time to be inside with a warm fire and brandy. Could you discuss the guidelines of what makes a good cruising dingy, or what is acceptable in the cruising association? Are there design rules? Also, does your association match up with the French sail and oar idea? Sail and oar, or sail and scull is the purest way of moving a boat using natural means, I think you're on to a good thing there, and I hope the idea comes to the United States. We have an annual "Water Tribe" event in Florida that goes from the St Petersburg area to Key West area that is done in kayaks, catamarans, sail boats with no engines, and you have to start on the beach and move your boat to the water with all it's gear for a three day trip by hand. Sort of a race, but if you complete it you are a winner too. This is such a small percentage of what could be done here.
Excellent and very interesting video (even for one who is not a dingy sailor !) . Really appreciate you taking the time to make these videos
that was reeeaaaaalllly helpfull .. thank you so much ..!
Glad it helped!
Thoughts for other geeky videos:
- look through charts and locations around France and UK which are good dinghy sailing grounds
- review of your book and how you came to write it and the process for producing it
- best of video, looking back at memorable cruises
(Jym Clark, Aotearoa / NZ)
Another awesome video Roger! Thank you, and stay safe to you and all.
Great talk very interesting Roger👍🏴
Great video thanks x
Purchased your book mate.
Awesome read, strongly recommend! 👍
Thank you!
Couldn't resist the opportunity to be the first viewer of one of your films :)
Great galley box! Looks like the best thought out one I've seen!🤔might have to build one!
Very nice colour on the boxes!
As you say Roger, a good little stove. I have a 2 burner version on my boat and it has 2 gaskets that I replace after use, they fit over the mesh of the reservoir and stops fumes and evaporation I presume. A great little box you have there and a bit of a tardis !!