I'm on the HOA board of my condo in West Hollywood, and our insurance premiums went from $14,000 yearly to $66,000 in the span of 8 months. We are being fleeced.
Insurance rates wouldn’t be this high if the risk of devastating fires were lower. That risk could be reduced with a merit-based approach to hiring firefighters instead of prioritizing “equity” over competence. Additionally, prioritizing wood mice and smelt fish over securing water for Southern California is reckless. Preventing proper forest management-like removing duff and conducting prescribed burns-due to “air quality” concerns only makes things worse. Voting Republican could reverse these misguided policies, but since you refuse to do that, I have no sympathy. You supported decisions that increase wildfire risks, so now you’re stuck with higher insurance premiums. Simple as that. Don't vilify the insurance providers. They not charities. They're there to make a profit. They can't do that when you keep hiring Democrats to slowly destroy your state.
Poor man. that's so sad. USA is destroying the planet with their CO2 and they complain about premiums... Who is sad ? USA condo owners or africans people dying from climate change ? Drill baby drill. By the way, did you calculate your personal carbon footprint ? Let me know ! For those responsible are victims and that's not very often. I send you all my carbon regret.
Newsom and Bass needed to resign yesterday. *More than 12,000 homes, businesses, schools and other structures have been destroyed. *40,300 acres have burned across multiple blazes. *At least 24 people have died. *More than 100,000 have been forced to flee their homes.
I've watched Kevin's IG with his updates, and it's amazing what his surroundings are at this moment. I commend his work and helping the people around him.🙏
LA resident Kevin Lyman, a founder of Vans Warped Tour, stayed home during the wildfires His home survived and he's been providing constant updates to everyone in his community. 🔥 🏠 🙏
@@LubeGehrig True, but concrete and steel can easily withstand a wildfire. Different materials have different ignition temps and durations. Wood ignite at 410 to 950F. Steel at about 1750F. Concrete doesn't ignite but does come apart at about 2100F. A wildfire like what we see in LA burn at about 1500F max. That's at max temp and exposure. Thickness of the steel also matters.
We could survive brush fires less disastrously if we didn't build neighborhoods so close to wild lands. We see this time and again throughout the country - not just in California.
It's fun living in remote woods, on top of ridges with great views. The only issues are cost in $$$ and lives. As long as people are willing to take the risk then no problem. However this demand that everyone else should cover the cost seems unreasonable.
@@MrWaterbugdesign It is becoming more and more difficult to purchase home insurance everywhere in the country, but particularly in those areas being most heavily impacted by climate change. I think we will still need to have insurance available - sharing the loss in a disaster seems like a community-spirit necessity in a civilized society - but the premium charged should vary appropriate to the risk.
@ Not true. Much of Los Angeles was tilled farmland and orchards before suburbia happened here. It is only in more recent years that we have been pushing far into country which has never been tilled or built on before. That is the danger.
2 homes have been built in Lahaina so far. Nobody has enough insurance coverage to build to the new standards that will be in place. A homeowner as a GC from start to finish, overseeing progress making payments. The condo was worth 1.3 last week,, it's a liability now. If they have a loan, they will walk away, non-recourse state. Blackrock will rebuild. The place self-segregated themselves, even had hedges to keep others out. It will be better.
Nobody? People said the same about the Oakland hills fire in 1991. Rebuilt back with many larger, more expensive homes. Property values increased. Much more steel and concrete. New laws on vegetation.
Not much. The homeless in LA are miles southwest of the fires. These fires are predominantly affecting upper and middle class communities. Skid row and the immediate surrounding surrounding areas are unaffected.
We welcome everyone to come to Bakersfield only 1 hour and 20 minutes from Altadena, $300.000 will buy you a nice home, Only 1 hour and 15 minutes from Hollywood BLVD and we have no danger of floods, fires, earthquakes, congested traffic, high winds, high gasoline prices, we have 2 Costco's, 6 super Wal-Mart's, 10 new car dealers, 2 bedroom apartment rentals are average $1.300 a month, and hot days are only 2 months out of the year, and that is just to mention a few positive reasons to live here.
Really?? I'm in central Texas. Average home here is just under $400,000. Haven't seen anything around $300,000 in texas unless you live next to the border. I always thought the entire state of California had insane prices.
Bakersfield has no danger from fire? Earthquakes? High winds? Guessing you didn't live in Bakersfield in 1952 for the 7.3 quake? Bakersfield has had a quake in just the past day. Bakersfield is rated "extreme fire risk". Jan 31 2024 had winds gusting to 52 mph in Bakersfield. If there had been any ignition source Bakersfield would have been in big trouble.
It's nice to see a national network talking directly to citizens on the ground - I would rather see this content than the "experts" talking or arguing around a table. Reporting from the ground where things are happening and hearing the voices of the citizens and their feelings and experiences are more important than the "talking heads." The talking heads model is tired. I'd rather hear from citizens like Kevin and Peggy who are experiencing the event, not talking heads talking about the lives of people like Kevin and Peggy. More citizen voices, fewer talking heads.
Sure talking to the ground..Far better to look at your feet than looking for understanding. You feet will never calculate your personnal carbon footprint, so you'll never understand.
No ! No mercy on california, no mercy on USA? You are destroying the planet with climate change and you don't even care. Earth is burinig and you only care when it's your lawn you keep green with water from pipes, not from rain. But you can think, I hope you can
In Australia my states (New South Wales) Fire & Rescue has set up hundreds of volunteer "Community Fire Units" for neighbours to protect their homes from bush (wild) fires. The CFU is equipped by F&R with a small box trailer, petrol (gas) fire pumps (to use swimming pool water) fire hoses, personal protection gear (uniform, goggles, face mask, boots). The goal is for F&R to follow the fire front as it moves along, the role of the CFU is to stay put at their homes, dampen down and clear flammable materials around homes before the fire front arrives, after the fire front moves on the CFU puts out spot fires. In Australia we understand in a massive fire that a fire engine can't be outside every home and we as local residents have to do stuff for ourselves, ideally via a CFU. We know through experience that once 2 or 3 fire trucks plug into our streets fire hydrants water pressure plummets. That's why petrol fire pumps to use swimming pool water are so important. Do you have equivalent of our CFU's in American?
That wouldn't work here. The liberals would insist on forcing all the volunteers to take "diversity and inclusion" training, and penalize anyone for not pretending women are men, and men are women.
In USA, yes, but for Rural areas. My grandpa was a volunteer firefighter for his town here in Southern CA. There is a firehouse there the firefighters didnt stay in but had ppe and truck and equipment they need. Since this is inner city, it is a little different . Some volunteer firefighters are to help during larger fires and they can travel like for wild land fires. Others help with the local firefighters and their equipment. Inner city, we have a lot of fire stations. Paramedics are often stationed there with ambulances too. This fire is something on an entirely different level as it has hit inner city highly populated areas quickly and badly right away. Usually our wild fires start in the rural areas. We do have intermittent wild lands in the city.
That’s more then what the people of NC got, they lost their vehicles too. 3 recently froze to death sleeping in a tent. Then COS comes in and takes their children too, it’s tragic and government has done nothing, pure evil.
Q At first, this was too horrible to believe. Now, I have to accept it. As truth. The wickedness is staggering. I know in NC want to stay. But, the smartest move is to GO. Go at least for the Winter, to a warmer climate. Any state with a warm heart ❤for the poor, and warm climate. Hitch a ride. Ride the bus 🚌 Rent a car 🚗 Do something and you can return later. But, people are stubborn 😣 and the consequences are unnecessary deaths. Do you see what I mean? Get out of there! No, it's not easy. Its life saving advice. Q
@ the Amish volunteered and built temporary tiny houses to keep them warm while they rebuild and the government kicked them out because they didn’t meet code. Then if they had permission from the owner they could park a donated trailer, again they were kicked out. Blackrock wants this land grab badly, just like Lahaina and LA. Vengeance is for the lord so I pray 🙏. It all needs to be exposed so they can be held accountable for crimes against humanity!
@beefree5215 in California, I am not allowed to build a tiny home. RV is only allowed if you already have a specific sized house on the lot. So this trend of tiny homes and RVs is illegal on your own lot. Stupid laws. People freezing to death in tents ⛺️. Ridiculous and inhumane.
@ they all know they’re temporary like a tent but warmer. It was so very nice of the Amish to do that for them, much more helpful then the corrupt government. The regulations out is CA are ridiculous, even out of state fire trucks are being stopped for inspection. They need to vote the global elite demoncult out of office in both states. Florida was organized and helpful during and after their hurricanes.
It is a sad reality that those with middle and low incomes may have a brief glimpse into the experience of homelessness following the destruction of their home, unlike the wealthy who possess multiple dwellings. While it may cause a slight strain on their finances, it is unlikely to have a significant impact on their overall wealth.
10000% wrong. We lost or primary and secondary home, but luckily we have a vacant rental. I can always make money, but I can’t get back those memories of my family growing up in those homes. Just because some people have more commas in their accounts doesn’t mean they are not hurting.
So you had three homes, lost two and have one to spare. I’m sorry for you that is tragic but many people don’t even have one home and many people have lost their only home. Reality check.
Only now mainstream media talks about homelessness! I hope they will focus on everyone , especially senior citizens, who are forced to live in their cars, and have been for quite some time, due to rents that are out of reach. No doubt this is devastating and sad for all affected by fire. What we who have already been houseless have everything we own in our cars/vans/RVs. Me, single female age 70, houseless for past 4 years due to 17 year career loss during COVID. Could not keep apartment so this was alternative. No help from anyone to get roof over my head. Years long waiting lists for senior housing. Media....please begin to cover houseless crisis in this country when you are done covering LA.
@ I understand that, but it is not like we didn't work for it. Age 27 (2017) till last year we have saved, put off vacations, and worked our behinds off to be debt free. Maybe 7 years is nothing for you, but those 7 years was rough because we wanted to be debt free. I didn't come from money, so losing 1 or 2 homes still hurts.
Hopefully this wakes up the wealthy buying themselves tax breaks. They did not pay fair share. Water towers, more firemen, like that would have been be funded
Yes. The insurances companies explained themselves when they pulled out. Not many people listened. Still not listening. There seems to be few people with any idea how insurance works. Now that's there's been a huge loss everyone is looking for someone to blame. Everyone of course accept for the victims who decided to live in extreme fire danger areas with little hope of defense.
well if you see a guy with a blowtorch walking around trying to set trashcans on fire....don't go hassling him or accusing him of anything because police say that 'ain't arson'. No reason to arrest.
Ahhh just our new world we have created for ourselves. People living out of vans filming insane, “once in a century” natural disasters that happen now every year.
this rich woman choose to live in a risky place that is prone to all kinds of dangers and expects regulr folks like me to help her out with the premiums I paid to the insurance companies . Insurance cpmpanies don't print money , they take money from many people and pay out to the few unfortunate ones. But in this case, the few are the super rich who choose to live in the worst riskiest place on earth. People won't live in a crime ridden place but yet choose to live in a wildfire,mudlside prone areas in spite of so many frequent wildfires in and aornd this are in the last 10 years.
@@michaeldeierhoi4096 So pointing out reality is bad? Let's rebuild in the same places, same ways. You call that "compassion". Seems like delusion to me. Certainly no compassion for the insurance companies who pulled out way before these fires because they saw the risk. But gee, have compassion for the homeowners who didn't want to hear anything negative. Certainly no real compassion for the men, yes men, risking their lives fighting fire to protect other people's homes...who voted down tax increases to fund fire protection. Maybe you could do me a favor and open your eyes? Maybe use that 3 lb meatball you carry around in your head to actually improve things?
I'm not very bright. To me it seems the insurance companies had it right. They saw the changes in our climate, 1000's of wood built houses built way out in the woods in extremely steep land with narrow roads plus Santa Ana winds which have been common in the area forever and decided the risk was too much for them to insure. Seems reasonable. Now the people want a law passed to force insurance companies to keep policies if there are no other insurance companies willing. How would that work? The money for claims wouldn't magically appear. There's a reason why insurance companies pull out. I don't think I'll ever understand.
This is a textbook example of the liberal mindset-reacting emotionally with, “There ought to be a law!” They rush to pass legislation, convinced they’re solving problems, but end up making things worse. And when their policies fail, they never take responsibility. Instead, they deflect blame onto convenient targets like Donald Trump or "climate change." The cycle just repeats itself. Take gun violence, for example. Liberals love to blame the Second Amendment, but the real issue didn’t begin until their so-called “War on Poverty” dismantled the black family. Before that, America didn’t have these widespread shooting problems. But policies that expanded welfare made fathers unnecessary in the household, stripping away the foundation of family structure. Now, generations of black children grow up without fathers-or even the concept of fatherhood-and many look to gangs and street criminals as role models. The facts are right there in the FBI’s Uniform Crime Reports. But acknowledging that would mean confronting the consequences of their own policies-something they’re never willing to do.
People would rather the insurance companies cover their loss instead of actually doing the work of recognizing that the climate is changing and that these extreme fire events are likely to get worse!! Unfortunately, this country is in for a brutal awakening in coming years with the climate rapidly warming up!!
@@michaeldeierhoi4096 (pssst - it's not climate change - it's Democrat mismanagement of the forestry and water resources of the state as well as negligent HR practices at the CDF.
The vehicle and home insurance will go up. The improved homes will be assessed and the property taxes will go up. Home prices in these areas will skyrocket.
I don’t feel the insurance companies should have dropped coverage instead they should have mandated the local government to adopt and administer stricter FD ISO ratings individual property Building Code regulations, Bush and vegetation management, higher Fire Department Standards as in increase staffing and equipment and improvements in the water supply systems increasing the supply to meet the threat demands, These stricter standards would have benefited both the public as well as the insurance industry
Have you been to Malibu? A very hard area to walk away from, plus California is one of the few states who will be fighting again against Trump’s Nazi regime administration. Freedoms are protected in California.
Build houses out of bricks problem solved In my country we build houses with bricks insurance companies won't even cover a house made of wood as it's a fire risk.
People have lived in this area for many, many decades and did not feel a need to have a bomb shelter, just like the countless other communities in the west that have seen fires ravage their homes. In other words it's easy to make a comment like that after the fact!!!
Kevin Lyman and Shelly are the example of how City Leaders State and Federal need to conduct theirselves instead of pointing fingers and focusing on what went wrong start implementing the response to the needs of the people what can we do moving forward and by learning to put the right procedures so it doesn’t continue
Insurance companies keep massive statistics on claims and risk and they can see over the last decade or more the dire impact of global warming - more wild fires, more floods, more hurricanes. Right around the world the fire seasons are lasting much longer, more horrendous fires in countries right around the world world - America, Canada, Australia, Spain, Brazil, Greece, etc, etc.
So it's the responsibility of all Californians to pay the cost to keep a few homeowners safe who build house way out in the woods? Gee, maybe these homeowners should have offered to pay the bill?
@@michaeldeierhoi4096 I AM grown-up. It is true what I said. My photos are all in the cloud, so if my NYC apartment burns down, I will always have my treasured photos and documents.
why not the outrage for everybody that's facing homelessness you got to remember that homeless people lose their stuff practically everyday due to law enforcement taking it. why not the outcry for them
No outrage for the homeless as there is for the fire victims because the fire victims were truly victims - the fire happened to them - whereas homeless people are NOT victims, they caused their homelessness by not getting an education to get a high-paying job, or in many dases due to drug or alcohol addiction. No sympathy for them - much sympathy for the fire victims. I made a donation to a fund for fire victims - will NEVER donate to a homeless person.
If homeless people didn't want to lose their stuff in police raids, they should have gotten college, good jobs, and a house or apartment to lock their stuff up in.
I think the reason is mainly because most, almost all, "homeless" people are drug addicts who don't want to quit drugs. What are we suppose to do? Force them at gunpoint point to stop getting high? Can't help people who don't want to be helped. Sure they'd like a free house, who wouldn't. But change behavior to be able to successfully live in a community? Nah.
Good thing this fire happened in one of the wealthiest places on earth. Very few communities have the ability to take personal and civic responsibility to pick themselves up by their own boot straps. Small government conservatives now have a golden opportunity to put their money where their mouth is. Maybe if they do, California will be able to help the 186,000 homeless before the fire, who have NEVER known a stable home.
So when are All the pertinent Celebrities going to have a Charity Get Together ? The Celebrities like Paris H can let their fellows move into all their other properties as well, things like that, kinda Silver Lining autograph sessions too.! 🔥🕎💪🌳
The trees are very dried out inside due to years of drought in California - they burn quickly when they catch on fire. I used to live in Southern California, so I know about these drought conditions drying the trees out.
@@Lenny77199 There are millions of acres of forest in California - it would cost billions of dollars to pay workers to rake and clear the forest floors. Be realistic. Grow up and think like an adult.
@ I used to live in Pasadena a few miles from the Eaton fire - I used to hike in those mountains on weekends - I know how dry the trees can get, and yes, about pine needles on the ground. Millions of acres CANNOT be raked and cleared. That would cost billions of dollars in labor - and WHO would do that job?
@@ccornell7337 Have you ever been to California? A two bedroom, ran down apartment in Santa Monica from the 1960's costs 1.5 million. The entire state is inflated. Every common looking house in a decent side of town is over a million dollars. That is the same in all western states. No one is going to find a 2500 sq foot home with a yard with 3-4 bds for 500k. It doesn't exists. Maybe the ghetto. In Oregon its the same. A 3 bedroom house in a decent side of town is at least 700k and up. 3 million is nothing.
What's insane is thinking somebody owes you insurance. These are the people that think they ought to be indemnified for all losses without bearing the cost, that that is what government is for. When you get your way and there is no private enterprise, there is no private property, you can just live in your state assigned apartment and work at your state assigned job. I think Republica de California should pick up the tab.I had a friend whose daughter was on heroin, she tried to get her to come home and get into treatment. Her daughter said, "Oh, No Mom, I'll never leave California, THE STATE PAYS FOR EVERYTHING".
People work their entire lives to be able to live in a beautiful home. My parents went from nothing to working their butts off and being able to live in a beautiful home, my childhood home! These people have everything tied into their homes. On the hope that they can build equity and sell it. That's what my mom had to do after my dad passed, and now she has a nice nest egg. Not everyone who has a home is rich! This assumption that all of these people have millions is insane and misguided.
@@lewasil Apparently many have millions in their house, they are just too entitled to face reality and realize that they just might have to move. Sometimes life sucks, if you want to support them then go ahead but the majority of us aren't interested in doing so.
Thank goodness for the people of California the top three leaders of the Los Angeles Fire Department are all women lesbians leading an almost entirely male workforce, and the mayor of Los Angeles is also woman lesbian, and she's also black! 🌈💙🏳🌈
Oh dear, woman engineering. Do you ever wonder why we stopped building with stones in bricks in earthquake areas? Take a minute. Hopefully the DEI hires in charge of rebuilding will know at least a little more. Maybe not.
@ yeah, I have. That’s why I was able to answer your question. Northern California water has nothing to do with Southern California water. I know because I live here!
Rare moment when an ordinary American can understand feelings people of Iraq, Syria, Lybia, Vietnam, Yemen, Afghanistan, Palestine, Panama, Ugoslavia, and tons of other countries and regions the USA have invaded to...😢
America has already experienced this kind of suffering. We once had religious extremists who killed innocent people in the name of their "faith," much like what has been seen in Syria, Libya, Yemen, Afghanistan, and among the Palestinians. We called that dark chapter in our history the "Witch Trials," and we moved beyond that shameful ignorance. The real question is: when will Syria, Libya, Yemen, Afghanistan, and the Palestinians do the same?
@@DonKeecock America has felt this kind of suffering on a much smaller scale. There has never been a war on US soil. At the same time, the US has left millions of people homeless and just as many victims with its interventions. Many of these people have been forced to leave their native land and emigrate to Europe and the United States, where they organize terrorist cells or are recruited by terrorists from overseas. The funniest thing is that none of this (migration crises, terrorist attacks) would have happened if the US itself had not been the number one terrorist state...
"We can make changes ourselves." This. Absolutely. I trust that this series of events are truly galvanizing the "small folk" to take more action. We do in fact have the power ;)
I'm on the HOA board of my condo in West Hollywood, and our insurance premiums went from $14,000 yearly to $66,000 in the span of 8 months. We are being fleeced.
Due to bad decisions made by the government?! they took money away from the prevention of wildfires?! how can this happen?
Insurance rates wouldn’t be this high if the risk of devastating fires were lower. That risk could be reduced with a merit-based approach to hiring firefighters instead of prioritizing “equity” over competence. Additionally, prioritizing wood mice and smelt fish over securing water for Southern California is reckless. Preventing proper forest management-like removing duff and conducting prescribed burns-due to “air quality” concerns only makes things worse. Voting Republican could reverse these misguided policies, but since you refuse to do that, I have no sympathy. You supported decisions that increase wildfire risks, so now you’re stuck with higher insurance premiums. Simple as that. Don't vilify the insurance providers. They not charities. They're there to make a profit. They can't do that when you keep hiring Democrats to slowly destroy your state.
@@EthelMaeHenderson Go away bot and take your BS with you.
Poor man. that's so sad. USA is destroying the planet with their CO2 and they complain about premiums... Who is sad ? USA condo owners or africans people dying from climate change ? Drill baby drill. By the way, did you calculate your personal carbon footprint ? Let me know ! For those responsible are victims and that's not very often. I send you all my carbon regret.
@@-fz1yg Yea - I know - all this "truth" and "reality" is tough for you liberals to take in.
No one is really talking about the aftermath of all the torched homes. The homelessness.
Do developers care?
Biden is probably says, reminds me of the kitchen fire we had and almost lost my corvette.
@@planecrazy6039 Does making up nasty stories to try and discredit other people make you feel better??
You bigots, they are unhoused individuals who lack shelter. NOT HOMELESS 😊
Skid row is now full with people sleeping in their G-wagon or Gucci tents.
Insurance companies should be non-profit and problem would be solved quickly.
So you work for no profit? It’s a business of calculating risks. LA is NOT worth the risk, and They we’re right!
It should be ran by government.
@@ernestclary6035 As long as it's just the California government.
Newsom and Bass needed to resign yesterday.
*More than 12,000 homes, businesses, schools and other structures have been destroyed.
*40,300 acres have burned across multiple blazes.
*At least 24 people have died.
*More than 100,000 have been forced to flee their homes.
Sending love and prayers to all of California and Kevin Lyman. 🙏❤️🙏❤️ So sorry to all of you 🙏😢
Insurance companies did not renew policies in these areas because of NEWSOM’s refusal to cut back foliage.
Those who decide to rebuild outside of California will be in a safer place before "the big one."
Going through the disaster is Tough Enough dealing with the aftermath of it is so hard😮
It will be just fine. Joe Biden just had a Grandchild 😊
I've watched Kevin's IG with his updates, and it's amazing what his surroundings are at this moment. I commend his work and helping the people around him.🙏
Least homie has a van
LA resident Kevin Lyman, a founder of Vans Warped Tour, stayed home during the wildfires His home survived and he's been providing constant updates to everyone in his community. 🔥 🏠 🙏
It will take many years before these homes are rebuilt. The all need to be fire proof. Concrete block and steel.
Concrete block and steel are not fireproof.
@@LubeGehrig well, wood is certainly not fireproof.
Trees intact while concrete houses g o n e.
@@FlockOfBIRDS-k7d the trees have moisture in them if they are living and not dead there for it takes more heat to ignite them.
@@LubeGehrig True, but concrete and steel can easily withstand a wildfire. Different materials have different ignition temps and durations. Wood ignite at 410 to 950F. Steel at about 1750F. Concrete doesn't ignite but does come apart at about 2100F. A wildfire like what we see in LA burn at about 1500F max. That's at max temp and exposure. Thickness of the steel also matters.
My heart breaks for all involved!! It’s the sentimental items that you miss the most!! I can’t speak about the topic. My comments disappear
Totally agree 👍
A good man!
We could survive brush fires less disastrously if we didn't build neighborhoods so close to wild lands. We see this time and again throughout the country - not just in California.
Also if you voted Republican and did not pander to the "equality" and "green" lunatics who left you completely defenseless against these fires.
Its all wild land till something is built there , lmao you people really be saying anything.
It's fun living in remote woods, on top of ridges with great views. The only issues are cost in $$$ and lives. As long as people are willing to take the risk then no problem. However this demand that everyone else should cover the cost seems unreasonable.
@@MrWaterbugdesign It is becoming more and more difficult to purchase home insurance everywhere in the country, but particularly in those areas being most heavily impacted by climate change.
I think we will still need to have insurance available - sharing the loss in a disaster seems like a community-spirit necessity in a civilized society - but the premium charged should vary appropriate to the risk.
@ Not true. Much of Los Angeles was tilled farmland and orchards before suburbia happened here. It is only in more recent years that we have been pushing far into country which has never been tilled or built on before. That is the danger.
Thank god for you. You are so needed. Nobody knows whats really going on half the time😊
2 homes have been built in Lahaina so far. Nobody has enough insurance coverage to build to the new standards that will be in place. A homeowner as a GC from start to finish, overseeing progress making payments. The condo was worth 1.3 last week,, it's a liability now. If they have a loan, they will walk away, non-recourse state. Blackrock will rebuild. The place self-segregated themselves, even had hedges to keep others out. It will be better.
Nobody? People said the same about the Oakland hills fire in 1991. Rebuilt back with many larger, more expensive homes. Property values increased. Much more steel and concrete. New laws on vegetation.
What's happening with the already thousands of homeless in LA area?
Not much. The homeless in LA are miles southwest of the fires. These fires are predominantly affecting upper and middle class communities. Skid row and the immediate surrounding surrounding areas are unaffected.
@@ryanslings6234they are everywhere. Stop making things up
We welcome everyone to come to Bakersfield only 1 hour and 20 minutes from Altadena, $300.000 will buy you a nice home, Only 1 hour and 15 minutes from Hollywood BLVD and we have no danger of floods, fires, earthquakes, congested traffic, high winds, high gasoline prices, we have 2 Costco's, 6 super Wal-Mart's, 10 new car dealers, 2 bedroom apartment rentals are average $1.300 a month, and hot days are only 2 months out of the year, and that is just to mention a few positive reasons to live here.
Really?? I'm in central Texas. Average home here is just under $400,000. Haven't seen anything around $300,000 in texas unless you live next to the border. I always thought the entire state of California had insane prices.
Bakersfield has no danger from fire? Earthquakes? High winds? Guessing you didn't live in Bakersfield in 1952 for the 7.3 quake? Bakersfield has had a quake in just the past day. Bakersfield is rated "extreme fire risk". Jan 31 2024 had winds gusting to 52 mph in Bakersfield. If there had been any ignition source Bakersfield would have been in big trouble.
$1300 seems like a lot.
@@fallenskybird for a two bedroom apartment, I don't know where you will find one for $500 a month
It's nice to see a national network talking directly to citizens on the ground - I would rather see this content than the "experts" talking or arguing around a table. Reporting from the ground where things are happening and hearing the voices of the citizens and their feelings and experiences are more important than the "talking heads." The talking heads model is tired. I'd rather hear from citizens like Kevin and Peggy who are experiencing the event, not talking heads talking about the lives of people like Kevin and Peggy. More citizen voices, fewer talking heads.
Sure talking to the ground..Far better to look at your feet than looking for understanding. You feet will never calculate your personnal carbon footprint, so you'll never understand.
I prefer to listen to the professionals and experts - they usually have a more balanced perspective than "people on the ground."
so sorry for her. lost $800k like that is crazy...
God is leveling the playing field
Arsonists are pure evil.
Sad😢have mercy on us all.
No ! No mercy on california, no mercy on USA? You are destroying the planet with climate change and you don't even care. Earth is burinig and you only care when it's your lawn you keep green with water from pipes, not from rain. But you can think, I hope you can
In Australia my states (New South Wales) Fire & Rescue has set up hundreds of volunteer "Community Fire Units" for neighbours to protect their homes from bush (wild) fires.
The CFU is equipped by F&R with a small box trailer, petrol (gas) fire pumps (to use swimming pool water) fire hoses, personal protection gear (uniform, goggles, face mask, boots).
The goal is for F&R to follow the fire front as it moves along, the role of the CFU is to stay put at their homes, dampen down and clear flammable materials around homes before the fire front arrives, after the fire front moves on the CFU puts out spot fires.
In Australia we understand in a massive fire that a fire engine can't be outside every home and we as local residents have to do stuff for ourselves, ideally via a CFU.
We know through experience that once 2 or 3 fire trucks plug into our streets fire hydrants water pressure plummets. That's why petrol fire pumps to use swimming pool water are so important.
Do you have equivalent of our CFU's in American?
That wouldn't work here. The liberals would insist on forcing all the volunteers to take "diversity and inclusion" training, and penalize anyone for not pretending women are men, and men are women.
In USA, yes, but for Rural areas. My grandpa was a volunteer firefighter for his town here in Southern CA. There is a firehouse there the firefighters didnt stay in but had ppe and truck and equipment they need.
Since this is inner city, it is a little different . Some volunteer firefighters are to help during larger fires and they can travel like for wild land fires. Others help with the local firefighters and their equipment. Inner city, we have a lot of fire stations. Paramedics are often stationed there with ambulances too.
This fire is something on an entirely different level as it has hit inner city highly populated areas quickly and badly right away. Usually our wild fires start in the rural areas. We do have intermittent wild lands in the city.
Just arent additional stations inner city for volunteers
It wouldn't work here. The Democrats would force everyone to swear allegiance to the rainbow flag and drum out all the productive, moral people.
That’s more then what the people of NC got, they lost their vehicles too. 3 recently froze to death sleeping in a tent. Then COS comes in and takes their children too, it’s tragic and government has done nothing, pure evil.
Q
At first, this was too horrible to believe.
Now, I have to accept it. As truth.
The wickedness is staggering.
I know in NC want to stay. But, the smartest move is to GO. Go at least for the Winter, to a warmer climate.
Any state with a warm heart ❤for the poor, and warm climate.
Hitch a ride.
Ride the bus 🚌
Rent a car 🚗
Do something and you can return later.
But, people are stubborn 😣 and the consequences are unnecessary deaths. Do you see what I mean?
Get out of there!
No, it's not easy.
Its life saving advice.
Q
@ the Amish volunteered and built temporary tiny houses to keep them warm while they rebuild and the government kicked them out because they didn’t meet code. Then if they had permission from the owner they could park a donated trailer, again they were kicked out. Blackrock wants this land grab badly, just like Lahaina and LA. Vengeance is for the lord so I pray 🙏. It all needs to be exposed so they can be held accountable for crimes against humanity!
@beefree5215 in California, I am not allowed to build a tiny home. RV is only allowed if you already have a specific sized house on the lot. So this trend of tiny homes and RVs is illegal on your own lot.
Stupid laws. People freezing to death in tents ⛺️. Ridiculous and inhumane.
@ they all know they’re temporary like a tent but warmer. It was so very nice of the Amish to do that for them, much more helpful then the corrupt government. The regulations out is CA are ridiculous, even out of state fire trucks are being stopped for inspection. They need to vote the global elite demoncult out of office in both states. Florida was organized and helpful during and after their hurricanes.
It is a sad reality that those with middle and low incomes may have a brief glimpse into the experience of homelessness following the destruction of their home, unlike the wealthy who possess multiple dwellings. While it may cause a slight strain on their finances, it is unlikely to have a significant impact on their overall wealth.
10000% wrong. We lost or primary and secondary home, but luckily we have a vacant rental. I can always make money, but I can’t get back those memories of my family growing up in those homes. Just because some people have more commas in their accounts doesn’t mean they are not hurting.
So you had three homes, lost two and have one to spare. I’m sorry for you that is tragic but many people don’t even have one home and many people have lost their only home. Reality check.
Only now mainstream media talks about homelessness! I hope they will focus on everyone , especially senior citizens, who are forced to live in their cars, and have been for quite some time, due to rents that are out of reach. No doubt this is devastating and sad for all affected by fire. What we who have already been houseless have everything we own in our cars/vans/RVs. Me, single female age 70, houseless for past 4 years due to 17 year career loss during COVID. Could not keep apartment so this was alternative. No help from anyone to get roof over my head. Years long waiting lists for senior housing. Media....please begin to cover houseless crisis in this country when you are done covering LA.
@ I understand that, but it is not like we didn't work for it. Age 27 (2017) till last year we have saved, put off vacations, and worked our behinds off to be debt free. Maybe 7 years is nothing for you, but those 7 years was rough because we wanted to be debt free. I didn't come from money, so losing 1 or 2 homes still hurts.
Hopefully this wakes up the wealthy buying themselves tax breaks. They did not pay fair share. Water towers, more firemen, like that would have been be funded
Have these insurance companies been interviewed?
Someone would go luigi mangione on any insurance representative interviewed.
Yes. The insurances companies explained themselves when they pulled out. Not many people listened. Still not listening. There seems to be few people with any idea how insurance works.
Now that's there's been a huge loss everyone is looking for someone to blame. Everyone of course accept for the victims who decided to live in extreme fire danger areas with little hope of defense.
No they are in hiding
why is it that we only 'see the best in people' after a catastrophe?
Flying objects in the air?
We see the best and the worst unfortunately.
If it bleeds, it leads. Story right after the feel good story are the looters stories. Media, Tubers, social media all cashing in on the drama.
I'm glad that she named the insurance companies. Many people have yet to do this.
well if you see a guy with a blowtorch walking around trying to set trashcans on fire....don't go hassling him or accusing him of anything because police say that 'ain't arson'. No reason to arrest.
Stop posting BULL SHIT!! That person was apprehended and questioned. He was released because there was evidence he started any of the fires.
They took him in. Stop listening to FoX news…..
@@misslamarrand let him out
Update your news source
@ actually they only held him for a parole violation, he faces no charge for arson. no arrest.
@@misslamarr Are you paid to be uninformed?
"We burned down LA to prevent people from being injured by collapsing buildings in an Earthquake. You should be thanking us!" -Gavin Nuisance
This poor man looks so stressed 😢.
That's not a man. That's a woman! 👩
They gave all their excess fire fighting equipment to Ukraine
When the wicked rule the righteous suffer.
Ahhh just our new world we have created for ourselves. People living out of vans filming insane, “once in a century” natural disasters that happen now every year.
this rich woman choose to live in a risky place that is prone to all kinds of dangers and expects regulr folks like me to help her out with the premiums I paid to the insurance companies . Insurance cpmpanies don't print money , they take money from many people and pay out to the few unfortunate ones. But in this case, the few are the super rich who choose to live in the worst riskiest place on earth. People won't live in a crime ridden place but yet choose to live in a wildfire,mudlside prone areas in spite of so many frequent wildfires in and aornd this are in the last 10 years.
If you can't show compassion for whoever has lost everything in these fires then do yourself and everyone else a favor and shut up!!
@@michaeldeierhoi4096 So pointing out reality is bad? Let's rebuild in the same places, same ways. You call that "compassion". Seems like delusion to me.
Certainly no compassion for the insurance companies who pulled out way before these fires because they saw the risk. But gee, have compassion for the homeowners who didn't want to hear anything negative. Certainly no real compassion for the men, yes men, risking their lives fighting fire to protect other people's homes...who voted down tax increases to fund fire protection.
Maybe you could do me a favor and open your eyes? Maybe use that 3 lb meatball you carry around in your head to actually improve things?
I'm not very bright. To me it seems the insurance companies had it right. They saw the changes in our climate, 1000's of wood built houses built way out in the woods in extremely steep land with narrow roads plus Santa Ana winds which have been common in the area forever and decided the risk was too much for them to insure. Seems reasonable. Now the people want a law passed to force insurance companies to keep policies if there are no other insurance companies willing. How would that work? The money for claims wouldn't magically appear. There's a reason why insurance companies pull out. I don't think I'll ever understand.
This is a textbook example of the liberal mindset-reacting emotionally with, “There ought to be a law!” They rush to pass legislation, convinced they’re solving problems, but end up making things worse. And when their policies fail, they never take responsibility. Instead, they deflect blame onto convenient targets like Donald Trump or "climate change." The cycle just repeats itself.
Take gun violence, for example. Liberals love to blame the Second Amendment, but the real issue didn’t begin until their so-called “War on Poverty” dismantled the black family. Before that, America didn’t have these widespread shooting problems. But policies that expanded welfare made fathers unnecessary in the household, stripping away the foundation of family structure. Now, generations of black children grow up without fathers-or even the concept of fatherhood-and many look to gangs and street criminals as role models.
The facts are right there in the FBI’s Uniform Crime Reports. But acknowledging that would mean confronting the consequences of their own policies-something they’re never willing to do.
Well said.
People would rather the insurance companies cover their loss instead of actually doing the work of recognizing that the climate is changing and that these extreme fire events are likely to get worse!!
Unfortunately, this country is in for a brutal awakening in coming years with the climate rapidly warming up!!
@@michaeldeierhoi4096 (pssst - it's not climate change - it's Democrat mismanagement of the forestry and water resources of the state as well as negligent HR practices at the CDF.
At this point, the city of Los Angeles better change its name to Phoenix.
Dark Phoenix so the mail doesn't get confused!
Basically have to move out of California or rebuild your house in stone / concrete, because these fires don't seem to be stopping anytime soon.
Don't let them do business in California ever!! 😢😢😢😢😢
Try it in 12 degrees
The vehicle and home insurance will go up. The improved homes will be assessed and the property taxes will go up. Home prices in these areas will skyrocket.
I don’t feel the insurance companies should have dropped coverage instead they should have mandated the local government to adopt and administer stricter FD ISO ratings individual property Building Code regulations, Bush and vegetation management, higher Fire Department Standards as in increase staffing and equipment
and improvements in the water supply systems increasing the supply to meet the threat demands,
These stricter standards would have benefited both the public as well as the insurance industry
Yup....this is going to take years.
People move on...a big beautiful country out there... check it out... you might just like it elsewhere 😅
Have you been to Malibu? A very hard area to walk away from, plus California is one of the few states who will be fighting again against Trump’s Nazi regime administration. Freedoms are protected in California.
They are brainwashed into thinking only California is nice. They would rather burn than move.
When will he get to return to his home?
Build houses out of bricks problem solved
In my country we build houses with bricks insurance companies won't even cover a house made of wood as it's a fire risk.
Brick homes are very dangerous in a earthquake region like Calafornia, unless they include steel reinforcement.
@@Wombat-gm4neso use steel reinforcement
@@Lenny77199 Hahahaha great come back.
All these rich people and alll houses mansions burned to the ground no one bomb shelter is crazy
People have lived in this area for many, many decades and did not feel a need to have a bomb shelter, just like the countless other communities in the west that have seen fires ravage their homes.
In other words it's easy to make a comment like that after the fact!!!
Try self insurance. If you can not afford to absorb the loss, rent.
Kevin Lyman and Shelly are the example of how City Leaders State and Federal need to conduct theirselves instead of pointing fingers and focusing on what went wrong start implementing the response to the needs of the people what can we do moving forward and by learning to put the right procedures so it doesn’t continue
Insurance companies keep massive statistics on claims and risk and they can see over the last decade or more the dire impact of global warming - more wild fires, more floods, more hurricanes.
Right around the world the fire seasons are lasting much longer, more horrendous fires in countries right around the world world - America, Canada, Australia, Spain, Brazil, Greece, etc, etc.
Insurance companies seem to have made the right decision. Bummer homeowners weren't listening.
This situation wasn’t global warming. It was years and years of forest and water mismanagement, arson, and seasonal Santa Ana winds.
If this doesn’t show how terrible Gavin and the Democrats are nothing will
Now can we talk about climate change and how to prepare? Now can we put money in our infrastructure instead of corporate wealth?
Just like in FL, insurance crisis, many CA will have to file a FEMA claim
I can’t imagine how much authentic original art has gone up in smoke. There would be millions of dollars in that alone
Who cares
“Art”
Jesus Christ
People DIED
Dorian Grey saved me! I'll start over today
They need to thank Newsom for cutting forest management 101 million dollars.
Post a link to that claim otherwise we know you are lying to cover your hate!!
So it's the responsibility of all Californians to pay the cost to keep a few homeowners safe who build house way out in the woods? Gee, maybe these homeowners should have offered to pay the bill?
@@michaeldeierhoi4096he did.
@MrWaterbugdesign So you think just a few homes burnt? Just a few homes burnt people... this guy says only few homes burnt. OMG
@@michaeldeierhoi4096 Don't need any link it's common public knowledge.
I feel sorry for the people that have lost homes and families, it looks like Gaza and we do feel sorry for that man made disaster also don’t we?
It's so sad about losing her photos. She should have had the old photos digitized and uploaded to The Cloud.
Shoulding people is shaming people!! Grow up!
@@michaeldeierhoi4096 I AM grown-up. It is true what I said. My photos are all in the cloud, so if my NYC apartment burns down, I will always have my treasured photos and documents.
@@michaeldeierhoi4096 Do you understand what "the cloud" is for storing documents and photos - or should I explain it to you?
@cathynewyork7918 Good for you!
I imagine those high winds are gonna pick up toxic ash and sheet metal of all sizes. Anywhere downwind could be catastrophic.
why not the outrage for everybody that's facing homelessness you got to remember that homeless people lose their stuff practically everyday due to law enforcement taking it. why not the outcry for them
No outrage for the homeless as there is for the fire victims because the fire victims were truly victims - the fire happened to them - whereas homeless people are NOT victims, they caused their homelessness by not getting an education to get a high-paying job, or in many dases due to drug or alcohol addiction. No sympathy for them - much sympathy for the fire victims. I made a donation to a fund for fire victims - will NEVER donate to a homeless person.
If homeless people didn't want to lose their stuff in police raids, they should have gotten college, good jobs, and a house or apartment to lock their stuff up in.
I think the reason is mainly because most, almost all, "homeless" people are drug addicts who don't want to quit drugs. What are we suppose to do? Force them at gunpoint point to stop getting high? Can't help people who don't want to be helped. Sure they'd like a free house, who wouldn't. But change behavior to be able to successfully live in a community? Nah.
CAN'T GET or AFFORD insurance then WHY buy there and banks WON'T loan for it
If you have a lot of money, then why not build there?
Good thing this fire happened in one of the wealthiest places on earth. Very few communities have the ability to take personal and civic responsibility to pick themselves up by their own boot straps. Small government conservatives now have a golden opportunity to put their money where their mouth is. Maybe if they do, California will be able to help the 186,000 homeless before the fire, who have NEVER known a stable home.
So when are All the pertinent Celebrities going to have a Charity Get Together ? The Celebrities like Paris H can let their fellows move into all their other properties as well, things like that, kinda Silver Lining autograph sessions too.! 🔥🕎💪🌳
I never imagined seeing her like this.
Los Angeles 2025 😢
4:01 What sense this make? I never see wildfires like that! The forest is green and the house in mid of the forest is burning
The trees are very dried out inside due to years of drought in California - they burn quickly when they catch on fire. I used to live in Southern California, so I know about these drought conditions drying the trees out.
@cathynewyork7918 ?
It’s the forest floor that makes it dangerous
Uncleared and dry
@@Lenny77199 There are millions of acres of forest in California - it would cost billions of dollars to pay workers to rake and clear the forest floors. Be realistic. Grow up and think like an adult.
@ I used to live in Pasadena a few miles from the Eaton fire - I used to hike in those mountains on weekends - I know how dry the trees can get, and yes, about pine needles on the ground. Millions of acres CANNOT be raked and cleared. That would cost billions of dollars in labor - and WHO would do that job?
The state plan caps at 3 million per house. Most of these houses were much more than that.
Boo hoo, no one outside of Calif feels sorry for people who are financially clueless.
@@ccornell7337 Have you ever been to California? A two bedroom, ran down apartment in Santa Monica from the 1960's costs 1.5 million. The entire state is inflated. Every common looking house in a decent side of town is over a million dollars. That is the same in all western states. No one is going to find a 2500 sq foot home with a yard with 3-4 bds for 500k. It doesn't exists. Maybe the ghetto. In Oregon its the same. A 3 bedroom house in a decent side of town is at least 700k and up. 3 million is nothing.
@ Then move
Living in your van seems like a really good decision right now. 😂
What's insane is thinking somebody owes you insurance. These are the people that think they ought to be indemnified for all losses without bearing the cost, that that is what government is for. When you get your way and there is no private enterprise, there is no private property, you can just live in your state assigned apartment and work at your state assigned job. I think Republica de California should pick up the tab.I had a friend whose daughter was on heroin, she tried to get her to come home and get into treatment. Her daughter said, "Oh, No Mom, I'll never leave California, THE STATE PAYS FOR EVERYTHING".
Exactly, their insurance being cancelled was the message to cash out, but apparently they are gambling addicts.
If there was ever a time for the wealthiest to come in and save the day...this...is the time. They'll still be rich.
Don't mocked God
The cause and foundation of the problem is italy and France Paris,Rome,Napolitano,Napoli,America, Rome,Taranto,Torino,Sardegna?????
🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿
How do you feel that Palestinian are living this since more than a year because of your politicians and media ???
OMG 😱 I feel very sorry for Gaza ppl
But you don't care about the starving in the Philippines? How nasty of you.
@@MrWaterbugdesign😂😂
@ who gives a damn about Philippines F***
Joe Biden Where U At 🗣️🗣️🗣️
Does he live down by the river?
excessive capitalism.... There will be more Luigis who will not be okay with this anymore
And Californians will still vote for Newsom…
And you voted for a felon.
🥹👣💙
and dumb people still blame him for the fires
and we'll still have the world's 5th largest economy (annual GDP = $4.08T), and you red staters will still have your hands out... #RedneckProblems
Newsom had nothing to do with causing this disaster - he has doubled the state firefighting budget.
FJB, Jan 20th is going to be Epic, MAGA
Maga gives a whole new category to what nastiness looks like. Your dear leader is not going to have the rampage he expects this time!!
Thank God the goats are safe! The people are not safe but the animals are.
You elected Newsome and Bass. It's your fault. Good luck California.
Not kind. No one deserves to lose everything like that.
Let that be a lesson to those who spend that kind of money on a bloody house ! it's materialistic!!!
Your evil!
People work their entire lives to be able to live in a beautiful home. My parents went from nothing to working their butts off and being able to live in a beautiful home, my childhood home! These people have everything tied into their homes. On the hope that they can build equity and sell it. That's what my mom had to do after my dad passed, and now she has a nice nest egg. Not everyone who has a home is rich! This assumption that all of these people have millions is insane and misguided.
@@lewasil Apparently many have millions in their house, they are just too entitled to face reality and realize that they just might have to move. Sometimes life sucks, if you want to support them then go ahead but the majority of us aren't interested in doing so.
Honeymoon period. Months from now it will pure hell.
Weak leaders, make hard times.
Look who has blood on their hands, it’s Newsome!
And look who is a few brain cells short
The democrats.
How?
Bye Ivan kumrade GOLUBOI
Slava Ukraine 🇺🇦
@@FlockOfBIRDS-k7d
Lmmfaoooooo
Bye Ivan 😂
MOVE ON. 🛡
This is the result of being a Sanctuary State.
And so many have to live in Porches. Talk about things being tight
Nice pink.
Where is Kamala with her $750 check?
Wonder if our Oligarchy billionaires have contributed, or do they just insult people and make idiotic remarks?
Don't worry, Gavins got this. He will walk around with his aviator glasses and try to look good
Your mom has a crush on him, she told me
Hi I’m wearing my new sweater
DEI HIRES HAVE CONSEQUENCES
Thank goodness for the people of California the top three leaders of the Los Angeles Fire Department are all women lesbians leading an almost entirely male workforce,
and the mayor of Los Angeles is also woman lesbian, and she's also black! 🌈💙🏳🌈
How making fireproof homes code
Build with stone or bricks like our uncestors
Oh dear, woman engineering. Do you ever wonder why we stopped building with stones in bricks in earthquake areas? Take a minute.
Hopefully the DEI hires in charge of rebuilding will know at least a little more. Maybe not.
LA .... Future 15min city
has anyone checked on the Delta Smelt 🤔🤔🤔
They’re in Northern California so why does that matter?
Won't anyone think of the dusky-footed woodrat? 😫
@@debbiehunt5940 You obviously have NOT been paying attention.
@ yeah, I have. That’s why I was able to answer your question. Northern California water has nothing to do with Southern California water. I know because I live here!
Rare moment when an ordinary American can understand feelings people of Iraq, Syria, Lybia, Vietnam, Yemen, Afghanistan, Palestine, Panama, Ugoslavia, and tons of other countries and regions the USA have invaded to...😢
America has already experienced this kind of suffering. We once had religious extremists who killed innocent people in the name of their "faith," much like what has been seen in Syria, Libya, Yemen, Afghanistan, and among the Palestinians. We called that dark chapter in our history the "Witch Trials," and we moved beyond that shameful ignorance. The real question is: when will Syria, Libya, Yemen, Afghanistan, and the Palestinians do the same?
Nah. Pretty sure those countries felt America's rath way more. And "ordinary American"? No such thing.
@@DonKeecock America has felt this kind of suffering on a much smaller scale. There has never been a war on US soil. At the same time, the US has left millions of people homeless and just as many victims with its interventions. Many of these people have been forced to leave their native land and emigrate to Europe and the United States, where they organize terrorist cells or are recruited by terrorists from overseas. The funniest thing is that none of this (migration crises, terrorist attacks) would have happened if the US itself had not been the number one terrorist state...
Good
"We can make changes ourselves." This. Absolutely. I trust that this series of events are truly galvanizing the "small folk" to take more action. We do in fact have the power ;)