Even though you're in the Phils, I appreciate your willingness to do these reviews in English. Seeing as I'm a foreigner living in the Philippines, it helps me greatly when assessing our choices here. Thanks for your efforts!
You do have to spend some time setting the saw up... blade, fence, etc. But once done, the saw is great. Fairly compact which is Nice ruclips.net/user/postUgkxXh-4_3-ZT1fFWP91ZV7iVqzElr0lEb-a I did get an Incra Miter Gauge which takes some setup as well. The stock miter gauge can be adjusted in the miter slot with a little painter's tape... this tightens up the side to side play a lot.
What good is a tablesaw if the fence can't be aligned properly? Might as well buy a track saw then. Seems like the dewalt dwe7492 is the better option, with it's rack and pinion fence
I have just purchased this saw. I have worked with the festool table saw. It has the same problem with fence alignment when you move it . For a high end priced saw and they are very good you still have the same problem. When you might be cutting a very expensive piece of wood. I think it would be negligent not to check all is good before you make that cut.Nobody wants that sinking feeling. When you have made the wrong cut and very expensive mistake just because you didn’t check ?
I am currently choosing between either the DeWalt DWE7492 or this saw. This saw had the induction motor, unlike the DeWalt. However having to potentially check the fence for square every time i move it will be a PITA, and for cabinet making i can't afford errors. Also, the fact the mitre slots are not standard is not very helpful. I like the idea of the sliding table, but building a sled serms much better. I wish there was a saw with cast iron top, induction motor and DeWalt style rack and pinoon fence, but alas this just doesent seem to exist, atleasy not below £1000, or small enough for my tiny workshop.
I have this saw and the fence can be fixed easily by added a bearing on the rear on the fence where it locks on the outfeed side. Doing this stops the back dragging and pulling it out of square. There is actually a hole for a screw and bearing already so I'm not sure why it doesn't come standard.
ang ganda sir.kaso di kaya budget masyado mataas..sana nextime magkaroon din ako ng table saw.sabi nga libre ang mangarap sir😅😅.more power sa mga susunod pang video mo sir.keep up the good work.godbless u and ur family.
At 0:48 / 4:45 I see a tread screw from blade and judging by it short length DADO blades are not possible to use with this saw? No way that bolt can fit DADO..
Nice.. In Malaysia, we don't have good one like this or on the Dewalt also. What we have here is a less good compare to this. Dont know why. Maybe the prices.. For 700 dollar, it should be reasonable price
Fence isn't wobbly, once it's locked. It's only easy to get it locked in place in a position not parallel to the blade. But once you get the hang of using it, this becomes a non-issue. Unless you want to do cabinetry on it, it's more than enough. You usually don't do cabinetry on a construction site, which is what this saw is made for.
This is a great review and I'm very close to buying this saw. I don't see the sliding left table top side as a listed feature though. Is that something you have to order as a special feature or is it an add on? Thanks.
@@VincheroKarpintero I may contact Bosch directly, because if so I will buy one. From what I can tell in looking at the Bosch 4100's that are sold here in the U.S. this isn't an included feature. It is very cool. I think it might have violated some kind of UL safety guideline because I found posts about an older Bosch saw that had this.
@@VincheroKarpintero I just talked to Bosch Customer Service and they confirmed that this version of the 4100 XC with a built-in crosscut sled isn't sold in the U.S. I've also read posts about there being issues with the crosscut side not being even with the right side. Still, if I could buy one of these I would. How much do they cost in the Philippines as I might be interested in having you buy one and ship it here. You could start a business ;).
This is the comment I was looking for. I watch a lot of woodworking videos and if I am ever watching one that is in Europe it is because I love their sliding table saws. Ever since seeing them I have wanted to have that scaled down and in my small workshop for under $1000. I was so excited when seeing this table saw initially but was quickly confused when finally seeing it on Amazon seemingly missing the sliding crosscut feature. The sliding feature is the only reason to buy this so that makes it a no go for me, especially with that poor fence design. However, if you are still looking check out the Evolution RAGE5-S table saw. It has a sliding crosscut feature and you can purchase it in the US however it does appear to be of cheaper build quality and I don't necessarily believe in Amazon's review system. If I didn't finally give up finding my ideal table saw and just upped and bought the DWE7485 I would have went with the Evolution.
@@matthewhall9692 That’s a great saw - DeWalt makes great products. I bought the thickness planer. As for saws, I got the Delta 36-725T2. It is beefy - 220 lbs, but I like it - and the fence is a Besseamer - the kind you see on SawStops. I almost bought the DeWalt as it has a ton of great features.
To me it's not about the cost. It's about the accuracy. Sturdiness and reliability. No 800 dollars is not easy for me to come up with but I am a strong believer of you get what you pay for.if there is another saw out there with the same qualities or better please lete know I would love more info before this purchase.
I don't have this particular saw, but the fence is pretty much the same kind on all such Bosch saws. IME, it helps if you just push the fence towards the table, at the locking end, before locking it. It's IME within a few tenths of a mm max. deviation over the entire table length. That should be reasonable for machines in this class.
I HATE the fence system on these types of saws. Like you said, you never know if it’s parallel to the blade, and having to check EVERYTIME is not even worth it. Sometimes I make millimetre adjustments and having to recheck it every time is just dumb. The sad thing is there’s only two companies making rack and pinion fences, and that’s Dewalt and Milwaukee. Just bought a new Dewalt table saw recently and it wouldn’t even start. Had to return thar Dewalt garbage. So Milwaukee is the only brand which sucks because their stuff is insanely overpriced.
Rented from someone on Facebook. We just both agreed on a price that we felt was fair for the duration I had to keep it. I don't think there's a standard rate yet for these types of deals in the Philippines.
Bosch table saws are not good enough to use on anything close to finish work. They're heavy/sturdy and well-built, mobile stands are the best in the market hands down. The fence is the most important component and falls short of the DeWalt rack and pinion fence system which is simply the best design for portable saws.
The fence isn't as much of a problem as the review made it out to be. There's a little trick you have to get used to: push the fence into the table before locking it. Then it usually aligns itself perfectly - or at least as good as you'd expect it from a portable table saw. IME with different machines from Bosch but which have a similar build of the fence, within a few tenths of a mm over the entire table length.
This saw is shit. Is worth absolutely nothing. I grew a BIG hate for bosch. Their tools are the worst on the market. They make the machines look good from the outside but its crap on the inside. Plastic screws and lifts. In 2 years I changed interior pieces 3 times. And it just broke down again. Worth is 0. Not to mention the awful gaps. Ill never buy boach again. Highly recommend makita.
Do not buy this saw untill the rise/ fall has been updated. I have now had 2 of these in 2 years, the first one Amazon refunded instantly ( I think they knew there was a fault) and they no longer stock the model I had. The second one Bosch took back for repair under warranty but say there’s no issue, rubbish I say! This saw has a fault do not spend your hard earned cash on this item!!!
Even though you're in the Phils, I appreciate your willingness to do these reviews in English. Seeing as I'm a foreigner living in the Philippines, it helps me greatly when assessing our choices here. Thanks for your efforts!
Great review... no gibberish talk, all technical and down to the point. Well done mate!
Thanks a lot. I ended up purchasing the saw due to this review. Going strong for 2 years now.
You do have to spend some time setting the saw up... blade, fence, etc. But once done, the saw is great. Fairly compact which is Nice ruclips.net/user/postUgkxXh-4_3-ZT1fFWP91ZV7iVqzElr0lEb-a I did get an Incra Miter Gauge which takes some setup as well. The stock miter gauge can be adjusted in the miter slot with a little painter's tape... this tightens up the side to side play a lot.
I was hoping for a few comments on dust extraction ..is it any good?
What good is a tablesaw if the fence can't be aligned properly? Might as well buy a track saw then.
Seems like the dewalt dwe7492 is the better option, with it's rack and pinion fence
nice and honest review 👍
I have just purchased this saw. I have worked with the festool table saw. It has the same problem with fence alignment when you move it . For a high end priced saw and they are very good you still have the same problem. When you might be cutting a very expensive piece of wood. I think it would be negligent not to check all is good before you make that cut.Nobody wants that sinking feeling. When you have made the wrong cut and very expensive mistake just because you didn’t check ?
Hi do you advice me to buy one or not?
Hi there. The stock blade looks premium. The blade shipped with the 10xc in South Africa is from the Bosch budget range.
Very unfair 😂
Are the gears for changing blade height and angle still the plastic that like to wear out after a year of hard use?
I am currently choosing between either the DeWalt DWE7492 or this saw. This saw had the induction motor, unlike the DeWalt. However having to potentially check the fence for square every time i move it will be a PITA, and for cabinet making i can't afford errors. Also, the fact the mitre slots are not standard is not very helpful. I like the idea of the sliding table, but building a sled serms much better.
I wish there was a saw with cast iron top, induction motor and DeWalt style rack and pinoon fence, but alas this just doesent seem to exist, atleasy not below £1000, or small enough for my tiny workshop.
I have this saw and the fence can be fixed easily by added a bearing on the rear on the fence where it locks on the outfeed side. Doing this stops the back dragging and pulling it out of square. There is actually a hole for a screw and bearing already so I'm not sure why it doesn't come standard.
Nice explanation sir.Thank you
ang ganda sir.kaso di kaya budget masyado mataas..sana nextime magkaroon din ako ng table saw.sabi nga libre ang mangarap sir😅😅.more power sa mga susunod pang video mo sir.keep up the good work.godbless u and ur family.
At 0:48 / 4:45 I see a tread screw from blade and judging by it short length DADO blades are not possible to use with this saw? No way that bolt can fit DADO..
Nice.. In Malaysia, we don't have good one like this or on the Dewalt also. What we have here is a less good compare to this. Dont know why. Maybe the prices.. For 700 dollar, it should be reasonable price
It’s a job site saw. Why are you looking for a cabinet table saw accuracy on a PhP35k machine?
Great review!
Awesome review!!! 👍👍👍
Wobbly fence = no fucking way. Thank you for this.
Fence isn't wobbly, once it's locked. It's only easy to get it locked in place in a position not parallel to the blade. But once you get the hang of using it, this becomes a non-issue. Unless you want to do cabinetry on it, it's more than enough. You usually don't do cabinetry on a construction site, which is what this saw is made for.
It's easy way to tune this fence. There is few movies on yt.
Ganda,nice review sir =)
Super Ganda😍😁
This is a great review and I'm very close to buying this saw. I don't see the sliding left table top side as a listed feature though. Is that something you have to order as a special feature or is it an add on? Thanks.
Pretty sure that's a standard feature on the 10XC.
@@VincheroKarpintero I may contact Bosch directly, because if so I will buy one. From what I can tell in looking at the Bosch 4100's that are sold here in the U.S. this isn't an included feature. It is very cool. I think it might have violated some kind of UL safety guideline because I found posts about an older Bosch saw that had this.
@@VincheroKarpintero I just talked to Bosch Customer Service and they confirmed that this version of the 4100 XC with a built-in crosscut sled isn't sold in the U.S. I've also read posts about there being issues with the crosscut side not being even with the right side. Still, if I could buy one of these I would. How much do they cost in the Philippines as I might be interested in having you buy one and ship it here. You could start a business ;).
This is the comment I was looking for. I watch a lot of woodworking videos and if I am ever watching one that is in Europe it is because I love their sliding table saws. Ever since seeing them I have wanted to have that scaled down and in my small workshop for under $1000. I was so excited when seeing this table saw initially but was quickly confused when finally seeing it on Amazon seemingly missing the sliding crosscut feature.
The sliding feature is the only reason to buy this so that makes it a no go for me, especially with that poor fence design. However, if you are still looking check out the Evolution RAGE5-S table saw. It has a sliding crosscut feature and you can purchase it in the US however it does appear to be of cheaper build quality and I don't necessarily believe in Amazon's review system.
If I didn't finally give up finding my ideal table saw and just upped and bought the DWE7485 I would have went with the Evolution.
@@matthewhall9692 That’s a great saw - DeWalt makes great products. I bought the thickness planer. As for saws, I got the Delta 36-725T2. It is beefy - 220 lbs, but I like it - and the fence is a Besseamer - the kind you see on SawStops. I almost bought the DeWalt as it has a ton of great features.
What about a dado stack?
Those are forbidden in Europe - considered unsafe by regulators. I don't know about other markets.
All table saw is good, but not the same,i only choice is skill table saw it is good, adjustable feet if your floor is not level, like no others brand
Bosch 10xc!! 😍👍👍
Lower cutting depth, enough to be felt on a construction site, which is what both this saw and the Bosch are made for.
Madali lng Po e-adjust Ang fence..Hinde Po ganyang Kasi nglalaro sya.
To me it's not about the cost. It's about the accuracy. Sturdiness and reliability. No 800 dollars is not easy for me to come up with but I am a strong believer of you get what you pay for.if there is another saw out there with the same qualities or better please lete know I would love more info before this purchase.
The fence makes it a no-go. Ridiculous feature for its price.
I don't have this particular saw, but the fence is pretty much the same kind on all such Bosch saws. IME, it helps if you just push the fence towards the table, at the locking end, before locking it. It's IME within a few tenths of a mm max. deviation over the entire table length. That should be reasonable for machines in this class.
I HATE the fence system on these types of saws. Like you said, you never know if it’s parallel to the blade, and having to check EVERYTIME is not even worth it. Sometimes I make millimetre adjustments and having to recheck it every time is just dumb. The sad thing is there’s only two companies making rack and pinion fences, and that’s Dewalt and Milwaukee. Just bought a new Dewalt table saw recently and it wouldn’t even start. Had to return thar Dewalt garbage. So Milwaukee is the only brand which sucks because their stuff is insanely overpriced.
Nice
nice 1 sir
May I know where did you rent the TS and how much rental fee?
Rented from someone on Facebook. We just both agreed on a price that we felt was fair for the duration I had to keep it. I don't think there's a standard rate yet for these types of deals in the Philippines.
Exelent
diwolt fansboy🤩
LOL
Bosch table saws are not good enough to use on anything close to finish work. They're heavy/sturdy and well-built, mobile stands are the best in the market hands down. The fence is the most important component and falls short of the DeWalt rack and pinion fence system which is simply the best design for portable saws.
swak Yan sakin boss arbor kuna.😂😂😂
Prohaska Valleys
i bought mine for 25k brand new
Gwapo
Too expensive for a non parallel fence
The fence isn't as much of a problem as the review made it out to be. There's a little trick you have to get used to: push the fence into the table before locking it. Then it usually aligns itself perfectly - or at least as good as you'd expect it from a portable table saw. IME with different machines from Bosch but which have a similar build of the fence, within a few tenths of a mm over the entire table length.
This saw is shit. Is worth absolutely nothing. I grew a BIG hate for bosch. Their tools are the worst on the market. They make the machines look good from the outside but its crap on the inside. Plastic screws and lifts. In 2 years I changed interior pieces 3 times. And it just broke down again. Worth is 0. Not to mention the awful gaps. Ill never buy boach again. Highly recommend makita.
well, any kind of play is not acceptable!
Do not buy this saw untill the rise/ fall has been updated. I have now had 2 of these in 2 years, the first one Amazon refunded instantly ( I think they knew there was a fault) and they no longer stock the model I had. The second one Bosch took back for repair under warranty but say there’s no issue, rubbish I say! This saw has a fault do not spend your hard earned cash on this item!!!
what's the issue with it?
You have big luck. IT is not square from factory.. It's a piece of crap for precise work.