I ended up getting a Ping G430 10k and its been unreal. I got it yesterday in the mail and took it out on the course, I hit every single fairway and it was an unreal experience. The distance was only a few yards longer than my current G430 Max, but the toe hits (which are my miss) never went anywhere but dead straight. Ping really made the best driver out of the 2024 models.
I have a 430 max and was really looking forward to the 10k just to see. Unreal head, absolute unicorn…. But. I managed to get a test of the new st max at club champion and wow, sound and feel for me and £120 cheaper. Don’t sleep on the Mizuno, it’s insane
Love my g430 max, bought the 10k and it's up for sale, slower club head speed and less ball speed, both are so easy to hit, normal g430 max is better for me just as straight and longer.
I purchased the 430 max 10k and had to take it back the next day. I was hitting it 25 yards less than my 410 plus. I am guessing it had more to do with the shaft of the 430 because I couldn't keep my spin numbers under 4K. I ended up exchanging it for the Qi10 LS and absolutely love it. Way more forgiveness than you would expect and it sounds great. I was hesitant to even consider the LS model since my swing speed is only in the high 90s. Whatever you decide go get fitted.
Good advice, did you get fitted for the Max 10K originally? The fitter has a lot to answer for if so! Qi10 LS is a great head for certain delivery conditions 👍
You probably can’t go wrong here, but I went with the PXG, felt right and the adjustability it offers with the three weights allowing you to really get it dialed in while giving you the flexibility to “future proof” it over the years.
Really comprehensive, I love it. That said, I would try to normalize the swing speed numbers buy deleting shots that were slower. It would be easier to compare carry yardage and ball speed numbers.
Great video, I have been without a driver for the last year so looked forward to testing all the new clubs. Had a fitting at my local club and ended up with a QI10
Really impress with the PING G430 max 10k this year. Most forgiving, most consistent, and the distance looks good too with low spin numbers. Don't think I have seen anything like that before.
2 days ago I literally went to get fitted thinking id walk away with the Qi10 or Ai Smoke. Good but hit some off target shots. I hit the Ping...every single one went dead straight. It was unreal. I could feel mishits and they still went somewhat straight. It's not impossible to hit a bad shot...but the technology they're using works. Now looking at review videos to see where it ranked, The Ping was THE one to get. As advertised!
Oh my goodness! I was just about to say the same thing! I had a day of sunshine today and was able to get out the course with my R7 SuoerQuad (inherited from my grandfather). I am sure these drivers are great, but these old R7’s feel so good. I had a free today that I just got to stand back and watch fly-still exhilarating years later! Cheers!
Lol. I have gotten newer drivers a few times since my original R7 and always go back to it. Still swing it a couple days a week. Maybe it's the weight of the head? Idk but it just feels much better than the newer ones.
I’ve ended up with the Wilson. Tested best for me but initially wouldn’t buy it as not a “top” brand. Bought one of the big names but then picked up a Wilson on EBay for very little. Tried it on the course and fantastic- now staying in the bag!
I bought a “shop worn” Wilson Dynapower for $250 a few months back … compared to all the new releases, I almost feel like I stole it, and for me the performance was within about 5 yards of all the $600 drivers!👍🏻😂
Hi joe, Excellent presentation by yourself. Watched you when you were with Dan and not surprised by how natural you were. Been Loyal to Srixon and Cleveland over the years but would consider Cobra or Mizuno but the cost of a new driver is too high these days. Going to stick with my ZX7.
@JoeFerguson-cd4bg that's a travesty Joe,,, I tried most of these drivers and almost bought the Cobra until I picked up the Cleveland Launcher XL2,,, in my hands it was pure bliss... great review though!!!
Good review by Joe le Pro & having seen the earlier review of the Ping driver, no surprise in it getting the accolade here too. For me, the ‘bumps’ on the crown are off-putting and the price is, well let’s be polite and say it is overpriced…!
It is a hefty price tag, but it’s also bloody brilliant! Yeah, I’d change the top slightly too given the choice but once you see the performance you forget the bumps are even there. Such an impressive driver 👊🏻
Dang it! Why did you make me spend another $599 on a driver!? I just bought the Cobra LTD 2 years ago! Oh well......time to upgrade I guess.......... PS. don't tell my wife!!!!!!
Not really. Ping sent it through with a Mitsubishi Kai’li shaft which performed great, I just prefer the feel of my usual gamer shaft (Ventus Red) which I popped in. Comes out just over D3 which feels great. Gunna be in my bag for a long time I think!
Valid point. The dispersion data is a bit misleading as the Max head has a draw bias to it meaning the overall dispersion number was left, but the grouping was incredibly tight which is what I was getting at. Could have explained that better to be fair
To hell with PING... and their attempt to pigeon hole consumers into premium shaft upgrade charges. Literally have to pay extra for a TENSEI AV... that's all you need to know.
See this guy swing the driver ,,,, that should simply explain what's behind the merchandising of these extremely overpriced golf clubs. And by the way ,,, there is no such thing as consistency in any of these drivers ,, it's the guy whose hands the club is in ,,, that's where the consistency lies ,,
For looks, there is no metal head driver looking good at all. In my opinion 1 Wood should be of wood and not metal. Sound is also so extremely different betwwen wood and metal, and I think the sound of wood is much better. To top it off is the size of current heads. Did they chop a bucket in half and covered it up? Most drivers now are so huge they are disgusting. I wish the "fashion" of clubs went backwards towards the wooden look and size of heads.
@@andybt3989 no doubt performance is important. But the OP said “others are just lagging behind in EVERYTHING”. That would include how it looks. Now, looks are obviously subjective, but most people are going to say Pings don’t look as nice as most other drivers. My point is, if you really can’t stand the look of it, you will not ever experience the performance. The brain just won’t let you get past that. So, I say to Ping: you’ve built a great performing driver, but for your next model, build a great performing driver that also looks good. And while you’re at it, drop the price by 100 quid !!
I play a PXG Gen 4 now for quite a few years found it great but really thinking about jumping for a 10k driver, I understand the new PXG can be 10k, the QI10 and the Ping, can’t decide and I never thought the Taylormade would be the cheapest out of that bunch!
I did hear stories of the faces being damaged and saw it a couple of times with other members Stealth drivers at my club. The heroes price is very good 👍🏻 I might wait for the Gen 6 price drop which I think will be inevitable and pick that up!
@@drewl4921I went and got fitted for the PXG Blackops and Gen 6 isn’t better, imo. The Blackops for me was point and shoot. Very easy to hit. Higher launch and low spin!
I purchased a PXG black ops because I was hitting it so much better at their store. Once I got the driver, it turns out to be hot trash. Return it, pay for restocking fee, back to my Sim 2 max.
Gotta love how the. TSR3 is still crushing a lot of those drivers on your stats list. Appears to provide the most optimized numbers, along with the Darkspeed. All the other drivers that were longer, are a bit too low on spin.
The Ping certainly performed well, I just can't come at the look and sound. The Turbulators look naf and it sounds like you have a tin can at the end of the shaft.
Great review Joe, all the best in your new role - as seen from the review your spot on and a great addition to Golf Monthly. I especially liked where you picked up the shaft length variance especially where the driver depth is flattened, no-one else has picked that up. Also the price comparison is spot on which is a factor when looking at new clubs.
Confused how you are swinging the club and enjoying what it looks like on the sole? The AI smoke looks great on the bottom but that top and hosel looks terrible.
Not necessarily talking about the sole as it looks in the swing (!), more so when you pull it out of the headcover. I like to look down at something cool! Zero performance benefit, just a personal thing! Important for the retail appeal on the shelf too...
Hi Joe, we stood next to you last week on the DR in Santo da Serra (one of our favorite golf courses!). My husband really wants to try the new Driver Paradym & Cobra I In addition, according to your recommendation, he will now test also the Ping Driver…). Only our Pro has not yet been able to get it as a test racket. But that will be made up as soon as possible 😇. greetings from Bavaria/Germany Sabine & Markus
That’s great Sabine, glad I could help and he certainly won’t be disappointed if he does get to try the Ping 👌 Hope we didn’t disturb you too much on the range?!😬🥴
No, you didn’t bother us at all. In fact, it was very interesting and I’m already very curious about your report on the putting green. Tomorrow he will get the first test racket...
My there are some upset Taylor Made customers out there : suddenly the Stealth headcovers are being left in the locker. So glad I stuck with the good old TSR.
Taylormade aren't comparable with many other drivers in the market these days.. the reputation is in tatters after the joke that was stealth and stealth 2 .. id take a Callaway, Ping, Cobra or Titleist
Listen guys there are so many options out there for the average golfer! You do not have to buy into these big name companies and their hype, I have been playing golf for 30 years and I have never owned a driver from the big name companies I am currently playing driver that I have had for 12 years I paid 125 dollars for it. And I can shot in the lower 70s with it!
Good for you buddy. I would argue that some of the new tech may offer you more ball speed and forgiveness but if you are happy with what you have then that's great!
PING 10k sound was obnoxious in our testing. It's almost as if they've returned to the G425 vibe. So many great forgiving drivers out there, no need to put up with that loud hollow clang sound.
I agree that it was a touch louder than the rest of the G43O range (I mention that in my full review) but didn't find it obnoxious at all and certainly nowhere near the G425! You're right though, there's a lot of strong forgiving drivers this year, just nothing close to the Ping imo 🥰
Great video, I’m no Golf expert but I believe you are going too far back in your backswing. 11:05 your lead elbow actually bends because you went too far back.
I ended up getting a Ping G430 10k and its been unreal. I got it yesterday in the mail and took it out on the course, I hit every single fairway and it was an unreal experience. The distance was only a few yards longer than my current G430 Max, but the toe hits (which are my miss) never went anywhere but dead straight. Ping really made the best driver out of the 2024 models.
It’s phenomenal isn’t it!👌
Joe showed it had excellent dispersion
I don’t want to read this. I bought a new G430 Max the week before the 10k was released.
I have a 430 max and was really looking forward to the 10k just to see. Unreal head, absolute unicorn…. But. I managed to get a test of the new st max at club champion and wow, sound and feel for me and £120 cheaper. Don’t sleep on the Mizuno, it’s insane
Love my g430 max, bought the 10k and it's up for sale, slower club head speed and less ball speed, both are so easy to hit, normal g430 max is better for me just as straight and longer.
Tq, subscribed
I ended up with G430 ma
A strong choice for the right player
I purchased the 430 max 10k and had to take it back the next day. I was hitting it 25 yards less than my 410 plus. I am guessing it had more to do with the shaft of the 430 because I couldn't keep my spin numbers under 4K. I ended up exchanging it for the Qi10 LS and absolutely love it. Way more forgiveness than you would expect and it sounds great. I was hesitant to even consider the LS model since my swing speed is only in the high 90s. Whatever you decide go get fitted.
Good advice, did you get fitted for the Max 10K originally? The fitter has a lot to answer for if so! Qi10 LS is a great head for certain delivery conditions 👍
I ended up with the Qi10 LS too, can’t wait to get it delivered
I have the TSR3 and QI10 Max. The TM is so good but TSR3 is 20 yds longer
Until PING does away with the “turbulators,” I’ll never even bother testing one of their drivers.
Great review Joe. There all very close but you made the right decision the ping is a phenomenal
I would like to see some of that Course. Wow looks impressive.
It’s gorgeous David. Well worth a trip 😍
Ping 10k in New Zealand............1349 of our dollars! I wonder how long it takes for the price to catch up to the name
You probably can’t go wrong here, but I went with the PXG, felt right and the adjustability it offers with the three weights allowing you to really get it dialed in while giving you the flexibility to “future proof” it over the years.
Smart. Loved the feel of that head. I'll definitely play it at some point this season
100% agree just put it in the bag today! Not a huge ping fan but the G430 10k is amazing.
You’re not going to be disappointed 👊🏻
Really comprehensive, I love it. That said, I would try to normalize the swing speed numbers buy deleting shots that were slower. It would be easier to compare carry yardage and ball speed numbers.
Fair point. Thanks Dean
Great review! Covering not just distance but dispersion and all important cost! Now just need to see how the club gets on when you’re out with Dan H…
Great video, I have been without a driver for the last year so looked forward to testing all the new clubs. Had a fitting at my local club and ended up with a QI10
Really impress with the PING G430 max 10k this year. Most forgiving, most consistent, and the distance looks good too with low spin numbers. Don't think I have seen anything like that before.
It’s obscene!
2 days ago I literally went to get fitted thinking id walk away with the Qi10 or Ai Smoke. Good but hit some off target shots. I hit the Ping...every single one went dead straight. It was unreal. I could feel mishits and they still went somewhat straight. It's not impossible to hit a bad shot...but the technology they're using works. Now looking at review videos to see where it ranked, The Ping was THE one to get. As advertised!
I tried the ping 10k it’s Soo far offline compared to my Ai smoke triple Simon at 8 degrees, the ping sucked in my opinion
I drive an old TaylorMade r7 and I just love the high pitch metallic bing.
Oh my goodness! I was just about to say the same thing! I had a day of sunshine today and was able to get out the course with my R7 SuoerQuad (inherited from my grandfather). I am sure these drivers are great, but these old R7’s feel so good. I had a free today that I just got to stand back and watch fly-still exhilarating years later! Cheers!
I highly doubt the Qi10 will sound as delightful.
Lol. I have gotten newer drivers a few times since my original R7 and always go back to it. Still swing it a couple days a week. Maybe it's the weight of the head? Idk but it just feels much better than the newer ones.
TSR3
Mizuno ST-MAX
Mizuno St Max all round for me phenomenally forgiving and accurate driver, but I will be getting it in my usual 45” shaft
You won't go wrong there, Mizuno has really started producing some quality drivers...
How was the spin? My biggest issue. Can't exactly buy a LS driver with a 90mph swing speed. Thanks.
Dude, idk where you are from but you absolutely cannot pickup a Cobra Darkspeed for $400. They are all retail at $550
Sorry Dylan, I was talking in UK prices. They retail at £429 over here...
The best Driver of 2024 is your old Driver still in your bag 😮 nothing has changed boys !
What do you mean Rick?
I’ve ended up with the Wilson. Tested best for me but initially wouldn’t buy it as not a “top” brand. Bought one of the big names but then picked up a Wilson on EBay for very little. Tried it on the course and fantastic- now staying in the bag!
I bought a “shop worn” Wilson Dynapower for $250 a few months back … compared to all the new releases, I almost feel like I stole it, and for me the performance was within about 5 yards of all the $600 drivers!👍🏻😂
Strong product and that's a great deal! Well done you!
Hi joe, Excellent presentation by yourself. Watched you when you were with Dan and not surprised by how natural you were. Been Loyal to Srixon and Cleveland over the years but would consider Cobra or Mizuno but the cost of a new driver is too high these days. Going to stick with my ZX7.
Thanks Nigel, that's really kind
Great, incredibly thorough round up Joe.
Loving the Ping!
Thanks Derek 🙏
No Cleveland?
Unfortunately they didn't get me any samples in time 😥
@JoeFerguson-cd4bg that's a travesty Joe,,, I tried most of these drivers and almost bought the Cobra until I picked up the Cleveland Launcher XL2,,, in my hands it was pure bliss... great review though!!!
Good review by Joe le Pro & having seen the earlier review of the Ping driver, no surprise in it getting the accolade here too. For me, the ‘bumps’ on the crown are off-putting and the price is, well let’s be polite and say it is overpriced…!
It is a hefty price tag, but it’s also bloody brilliant! Yeah, I’d change the top slightly too given the choice but once you see the performance you forget the bumps are even there. Such an impressive driver 👊🏻
Dang it! Why did you make me spend another $599 on a driver!? I just bought the Cobra LTD 2 years ago! Oh well......time to upgrade I guess.......... PS. don't tell my wife!!!!!!
Joe is great. Loved him on Dan's channel.
Thanks David, I appreciate that 🙏
PXG
Great review Joe - although I hate you a little bit cos now I’m gonna have to have a fitting on the Ping 😂
Ha! You won’t regret it buddy 👍 Thanks for watching 🙏
@@joeferguson8911 out of interest Joe, did you have to change anything with your shaft and / or swing weight ?
Not really. Ping sent it through with a Mitsubishi Kai’li shaft which performed great, I just prefer the feel of my usual gamer shaft (Ventus Red) which I popped in. Comes out just over D3 which feels great. Gunna be in my bag for a long time I think!
I ended up with the Qi10 max. First time on the course with it yesterday and I didn’t miss a fairway. Everyone in my foursome might have one soon. Lol
Great vid, will digest properly but you mentioned qi10 max as top consistency but your data shows the regular qi10 with even less dispersion?
Valid point. The dispersion data is a bit misleading as the Max head has a draw bias to it meaning the overall dispersion number was left, but the grouping was incredibly tight which is what I was getting at. Could have explained that better to be fair
Ah right, that’s the average result rather than dispersion, thanks, overall qi10 for me, looks and sounds nice and super straight and long
To hell with PING... and their attempt to pigeon hole consumers into premium shaft upgrade charges. Literally have to pay extra for a TENSEI AV... that's all you need to know.
See this guy swing the driver ,,,, that should simply explain what's behind the merchandising of these extremely overpriced golf clubs. And by the way ,,, there is no such thing as consistency in any of these drivers ,, it's the guy whose hands the club is in ,,, that's where the consistency lies ,,
For looks, there is no metal head driver looking good at all. In my opinion 1 Wood should be of wood and not metal. Sound is also so extremely different betwwen wood and metal, and I think the sound of wood is much better. To top it off is the size of current heads. Did they chop a bucket in half and covered it up? Most drivers now are so huge they are disgusting. I wish the "fashion" of clubs went backwards towards the wooden look and size of heads.
Ping 10k is the winner of all these. Others are just lagging behind in everything. Great reviews!
Your right. I have 300 quid, can I borrow the rest to get one? I'll pay you back end of the year????
Sell whatever you’ve already got! You won’t regret it! Thanks for watching 🙏
Except on looks. Horrid to my eye (I played a G400 years ago, and hated it)
@@cameronloveless1751I think performance is far more important than looks!
@@andybt3989 no doubt performance is important. But the OP said “others are just lagging behind in EVERYTHING”. That would include how it looks. Now, looks are obviously subjective, but most people are going to say Pings don’t look as nice as most other drivers. My point is, if you really can’t stand the look of it, you will not ever experience the performance. The brain just won’t let you get past that. So, I say to Ping: you’ve built a great performing driver, but for your next model, build a great performing driver that also looks good. And while you’re at it, drop the price by 100 quid !!
I play a PXG Gen 4 now for quite a few years found it great but really thinking about jumping for a 10k driver, I understand the new PXG can be 10k, the QI10 and the Ping, can’t decide and I never thought the Taylormade would be the cheapest out of that bunch!
Taylormade had to make their drivers cheaper. their last 2 models have been a disaster..
I did hear stories of the faces being damaged and saw it a couple of times with other members Stealth drivers at my club.
The heroes price is very good 👍🏻 I might wait for the Gen 6 price drop which I think will be inevitable and pick that up!
@@drewl4921I went and got fitted for the PXG Blackops and Gen 6 isn’t better, imo. The Blackops for me was point and shoot. Very easy to hit. Higher launch and low spin!
So a ping 10k max with a longer shaft like the mizuno and there is the best all round 😅
I purchased a PXG black ops because I was hitting it so much better at their store. Once I got the driver, it turns out to be hot trash. Return it, pay for restocking fee, back to my Sim 2 max.
Great video Joe!!! I can’t see me changing from my g430 LST for a while though
Good model the LST, but if you want to hit a few more fairways and be better on your off days, get the 10K!!
@@JoeFerguson-cd4bg 😂😂😂😂 I’d love/need to hit more fairways, please don’t tempt me. I picked up my jpx 923 forged irons this morning 🙈
Gotta love how the. TSR3 is still crushing a lot of those drivers on your stats list. Appears to provide the most optimized numbers, along with the Darkspeed. All the other drivers that were longer, are a bit too low on spin.
The Ping certainly performed well, I just can't come at the look and sound. The Turbulators look naf and it sounds like you have a tin can at the end of the shaft.
Love how the manufacturers have you all bamboozled. It's the shaft not the head but ya know whatever.
Can you get your hands on the performance golf SF1 driver ?! They have some big claims.
Cool to see Louis Theroux test drivers. G430 10k is amazing
Cobra darkspeed max or the mizuno 440cc with the adjustable weight across the back.
Which is better snd why?
Who really gives a shit what the noise sounds like. I want to see performance
Odd he didn't test the Cleveland which has the best dispersion of all drivers this year.
They all definitely sound the same...need a close up mic for that segment
Mizuno st-g with the rails. The other with the weight across the back I think was the Taylor made ai smoke
" all the latest releases..." But where is the new Cleveland Launcher XL2?
What’s in your bag and who paid for your review in kind (free goods) ?
I swung this driver slower than a few other drivers. Not sure why. Maybe head weight?
Why didn’t you test the Ben Hogan latest driver GS 53 max
Hope you see this. Can you give a review on the Tour Edge Exotic Driver
Get the Ping G400 max and save your money!
Noise doesn’t send the ball as far and as accurately as you want.
The cobra ltdx and the dank speed is awful
Who cares how it looks. Just so it works.
Great review Joe, all the best in your new role - as seen from the review your spot on and a great addition to Golf Monthly.
I especially liked where you picked up the shaft length variance especially where the driver depth is flattened, no-one else has picked that up. Also the price comparison is spot on which is a factor when looking at new clubs.
Confused how you are swinging the club and enjoying what it looks like on the sole? The AI smoke looks great on the bottom but that top and hosel looks terrible.
Not necessarily talking about the sole as it looks in the swing (!), more so when you pull it out of the headcover. I like to look down at something cool! Zero performance benefit, just a personal thing! Important for the retail appeal on the shelf too...
Missing the TSR4
Strong driver but quite niche
@@JoeFerguson-cd4bg no more than the triple diamond. If you swap the weights you can make more of a TSR3+
Bet their all good 😂 not sure how you can differentiate anymore but the one you like and get fit 🤷👍
To an extent, although the Ping 10K stands out for me...
Hi Joe, we stood next to you last week on the DR in Santo da Serra (one of our favorite golf courses!). My husband really wants to try the new Driver Paradym & Cobra I In addition, according to your recommendation, he will now test also the Ping Driver…). Only our Pro has not yet been able to get it as a test racket. But that will be made up as soon as possible 😇. greetings from Bavaria/Germany Sabine & Markus
That’s great Sabine, glad I could help and he certainly won’t be disappointed if he does get to try the Ping 👌 Hope we didn’t disturb you too much on the range?!😬🥴
No, you didn’t bother us at all. In fact, it was very interesting and I’m already very curious about your report on the putting green. Tomorrow he will get the first test racket...
@@joeferguson8911It became the new ping.... 😇
Not ever the cobra
I swear they all sound exactly the same in this video
I agree I'm afraid! I was hoping the audio would pick up better. You'll just have to trust me!
@@JoeFerguson-cd4bg I wonder if the sound is better captured indoors? I can spot a Ping driver from 2 holes away so definitely believe you :)
My there are some upset Taylor Made customers out there : suddenly the Stealth headcovers are being left in the locker. So glad I stuck with the good old TSR.
Taylormade aren't comparable with many other drivers in the market these days.. the reputation is in tatters after the joke that was stealth and stealth 2
.. id take a Callaway, Ping, Cobra or Titleist
what shaft did u use in the ping
The stock shaft that arrived was a Mitsubishi Kai'Li in 70X but I am gaming it with my Ventus Red 6X now....
Ping sucks
This driver certainly doesn’t 😉
Listen guys there are so many options out there for the average golfer! You do not have to buy into these big name companies and their hype, I have been playing golf for 30 years and I have never owned a driver from the big name companies I am currently playing driver that I have had for 12 years I paid 125 dollars for it. And I can shot in the lower 70s with it!
Good for you buddy. I would argue that some of the new tech may offer you more ball speed and forgiveness but if you are happy with what you have then that's great!
Is 500 dollars worth 5 yards or 15 feet? @@JoeFerguson-cd4bg
PING 10k sound was obnoxious in our testing. It's almost as if they've returned to the G425 vibe. So many great forgiving drivers out there, no need to put up with that loud hollow clang sound.
I agree that it was a touch louder than the rest of the G43O range (I mention that in my full review) but didn't find it obnoxious at all and certainly nowhere near the G425! You're right though, there's a lot of strong forgiving drivers this year, just nothing close to the Ping imo 🥰
just a FYi your mic's picked up barely any difference in sound
I agree I'm afraid! I was hoping the audio would pick up better. You'll just have to trust me!
Great video, I’m no Golf expert but I believe you are going too far back in your backswing. 11:05 your lead elbow actually bends because you went too far back.
Qi10 max spins like a 7 iron, this dude is clueless
Taylormade drivers suck lol
It may have done for you Jay, but not for me. Around 2500 rpm and Collin Morikawa has been playing it so unlikely to use a 7 iron spinning driver 😉
That’s why there’s three models,each one is aimed at a particular type of golfer