What's the Deal With A = 440 Hz vs 432 Hz? Let's Talk!

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  • Опубликовано: 7 май 2017
  • This is by far the most frequent question I get asked so I finally decided to weigh in on it. I brought in 3 experts to weigh in as well. What are your thoughts?
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    @cj600cj2 5 лет назад +673

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    @prettyboyyjo 5 лет назад +400

    Spiritual So brought me to this video 💯

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    @mantreygaming7721 5 лет назад +766

    Who came from solluminati

  • @Shadowballer23
    @Shadowballer23 5 лет назад +216

    So luminati sent me

  • @tayunchii
    @tayunchii 5 лет назад +180

    SPIRITUAL so in the BUILDING

    • @the-engneer
      @the-engneer 4 года назад +1

      Glad to know you take advice from a guy who stares at the sun

    • @touchgrassbro9889
      @touchgrassbro9889 3 года назад +1

      @@the-engneer kinda interesting that the guy who stares at the sun is right tho 🤔

    • @the-engneer
      @the-engneer 3 года назад +1

      @@touchgrassbro9889 right about what exactly?

    • @touchgrassbro9889
      @touchgrassbro9889 3 года назад +1

      @@the-engneer staring at the sun gives positive energy. It comes from the universe. It is similar to meditation

  • @ZeroFunctional
    @ZeroFunctional 7 лет назад +294

    Wow, three experts featured in one video? Quality has really come a long way.

    • @RickBeato
      @RickBeato  7 лет назад +117

      ZeroFunctional I felt I needed some other opinions. Haha! Only Dylan knew what I was talking about. He really is an expert because he can hear the difference.

    • @classicalhero7
      @classicalhero7 7 лет назад +6

      Rick Beato Examples would have been good to hear the difference.

    • @AXPena
      @AXPena 7 лет назад +8

      Sounding off with the Beato trio?

    • @midimusician6359
      @midimusician6359 7 лет назад +1

      Very funny :D

    • @MSAMultimedia
      @MSAMultimedia 7 лет назад +1

      Can he recognize chords in 432hz?

  • @jaleneagle7600
    @jaleneagle7600 5 лет назад +95

    Hoodie so in the building man

  • @cappocutz3872
    @cappocutz3872 5 лет назад +56

    Who else here from so’s video

  • @Buonarr
    @Buonarr 4 года назад +24

    finally a succinct youtube video actually covering the topic without 3 minutes of intro, five minutes of fluff, and 2 minutes of actual content. cheers mate

    • @TheKatchutes
      @TheKatchutes Месяц назад

      But he doesn’t actually cover it very well… lots of sarcasm and no real opinion or analysis of 432 and how it sounds to him! Pft

  • @H0lysignz
    @H0lysignz 5 лет назад +89

    Spiritual so in the building

    • @the-engneer
      @the-engneer 4 года назад

      Glad to know you take advice from a guy who stares at the sun

  • @quailstudios
    @quailstudios 5 лет назад +113

    This is the best video I’ve ever seen on A 432 versus A 440 comparison! I especially like the way that the experts weighed in right at the end. Brilliant Rick!

    • @MontoyaMatrix
      @MontoyaMatrix Год назад

      Ha.

    • @A-432-Zone
      @A-432-Zone 4 месяца назад

      Mr. Quail, are you out there? I'm a music theorist, and I've tried twice to relay a statement to you but each time, my very words were simplly, and somehow made to be gone. I"m trying make by wording more ambiguous in hopes of by-passing the you-know-what.

  • @goateli7091
    @goateli7091 5 лет назад +44

    who else here from spiritual So

  • @newboyzinthehouse
    @newboyzinthehouse 5 лет назад +222

    Spiritual So in the buildin

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    • @Treezy_205
      @Treezy_205 5 лет назад

      Dats why I’m here😂

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      @ytsquad7791 5 лет назад

      Oh yuh

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      @miymiy1086 5 лет назад

      Yupp

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    @mbtred1427 5 лет назад +253

    Who else came from solluminati

    • @MelindaRodriguez-cs1kn
      @MelindaRodriguez-cs1kn 7 месяцев назад

      Please explain what you meant by this question.

    • @hey.3249
      @hey.3249 7 месяцев назад

      @@MelindaRodriguez-cs1knyour mother knows

    • @MelindaRodriguez-cs1kn
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      @@hey.3249 Can you please elaborate more. Do you know me or my mother?

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  • @DemonlabZ
    @DemonlabZ 5 лет назад +143

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  • @Jiwpgakis
    @Jiwpgakis 7 лет назад +327

    When I play Slayer I tune my piano to 666

    • @Jiwpgakis
      @Jiwpgakis 7 лет назад +6

      the diabolical tuning of another dimension!

    • @l0wbtry
      @l0wbtry 6 лет назад +44

      When I have sex I tune my "D" to 69

    • @pabloessgalhardo5317
      @pabloessgalhardo5317 6 лет назад +18

      that is not a good idea unless you are using a toy piano. you should play slayer on two pianos, one for each hand and each foot and tune them to A 333 hz

    • @susanclark6437
      @susanclark6437 6 лет назад +1

      Haha

    • @tromed2
      @tromed2 5 лет назад +6

      Who plays Slayer on a piano?

  • @CrossbeatsMusicProduction
    @CrossbeatsMusicProduction 7 лет назад +69

    couldn't help but laugh about resampling all of your audio collection!

  • @m.e.c.j.5125
    @m.e.c.j.5125 2 года назад +61

    I absolutely love everything about how my guitar sounds and FEELS/RESPONDS; even through the amp, when tuned to my preferred Ab/Drop Db = 432Hz. However, considering nearly every piece of recorded music that i grew up listening to; and still do, was recorded using A = 440Hz(or some variation of it), so learning/jamming along with pre-recorded music or friends, is impractical. But my love of 432Hz has nothing to do with any mystical, cosmic, or devine theories. I can only say that when my guitar is tuned to Ab/Db = 432Hz, it just sounds, feels, and responds in a much more "relaxed" way. Not so tense/intense. If that makes any sense.

    • @user-be9ey4jb3c
      @user-be9ey4jb3c 2 года назад +2

      Ab means that E string is Eb? I think this is 415hz

    • @sage9836
      @sage9836 Год назад

      I like half step flat alot on my classical because it's mellowed out and more rich sounding. I am also going to try A 432 and half step flat from there. I wonder if the strings will sound floppy. . .

    • @bilalentilka
      @bilalentilka Год назад

      ​@@micahmeneyerji you are just speculating on his behalf. singers strain voices singing lower notes in 440, than higher notes in 432.

    • @manictiger
      @manictiger 11 месяцев назад +5

      432 is much more mathematically clean. 3 x 12 x 12 = 432. Generally, when I'm modding games, I like multiples of 12, because 12 is in common with both base 3 and base 2 and has crossovers with base 8. Idk, I just like base 12. It's a really nice number. In music, it probably doesn't matter. Most people don't even appreciate the instrumentation of a song, let alone are able to hear a 1.8% difference in pitch.

    • @dancreed
      @dancreed 8 месяцев назад +3

      @@manictigerinteresting! Western music is divided into 12 notes.
      So is time, clocks and calendars.
      And we used to use the imperial measurement system 12inch = 1ft etc

  • @DaBoyLeroyLive
    @DaBoyLeroyLive 5 лет назад +27

    Spiritual so sent me here

  • @davidberndt6275
    @davidberndt6275 5 лет назад +32

    I like A432 Hz because its not standard ( its part of my Oppositional defiant disorder....) ;-)

    • @archiereece8321
      @archiereece8321 15 часов назад

      whatever is pleasing to the ear..what did Eddie Van Halen tune to? i heard he wasnt that particular,,as long as the guitar was in tune with itself

  • @marcstoneslade
    @marcstoneslade 7 лет назад +79

    Rick, I love your videos and I was wondering if you could make a video explaining George Russell's lydian chromatic concept and its application in jazz composition. Thank you.

  • @dimun3130
    @dimun3130 5 лет назад +23

    RIP X🕊
    Who came after So?

  • @BillLarkinmusic
    @BillLarkinmusic 7 лет назад +2

    Very good thank you !! I learned a bit about this subject playing with a french accordianist that had an old accordian instrument tuned in this way, A =435; You surely put more light on the subject with a few things i didn't know. Thank you Rick for the cool vids!!

  • @FUFUWO
    @FUFUWO 7 лет назад +85

    I don't know about y'all, but I tune everything to 420hz :)

    • @FernieCanto
      @FernieCanto 7 лет назад +13

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    • @Soothing432
      @Soothing432 4 года назад

      417 is better bro

    • @missyhilary8905
      @missyhilary8905 3 года назад

      What does that do for you?

    • @FUFUWO
      @FUFUWO 3 года назад +2

      @@missyhilary8905 gets you high 😎

  • @AimeeNolte
    @AimeeNolte 7 лет назад +37

    I love this. Great video, Rick!

  • @robertzeurunkl8401
    @robertzeurunkl8401 4 года назад +100

    I've listened to comparisons of the two (432 and 440), and for some reason the 432 does sound more calm and relaxing to me. I think it might just be because it's a slightly lower tone, thus sounds more mellow when set beside a 440 sample. Throughout school, I was a trumpet player, and we always tuned *A* to 440. We had a tuning machine that you would stand in front of and play an A, and it had little dials on it that would "freeze" when the note was just right - very much like the record player strobe light tuner on a turntable. In fact, it was the same color. But when put side by side, I do like the 432 better - again, I think, because it's just a slightly lower tone giving it a more "bass" sound.

    • @rlopezflute
      @rlopezflute 3 года назад +10

      I think it's because it's a natural set of frequencies when you can equally divide 12 from 432 (36). But when you do 440/12, it's an uneven calculation. I'd love to get my hands on an old flute that is actually tuned to 432. Some European orchestras actually do have recordings of Haydn & other classical symphonies on period instruments in 432 or 435 tuning.

    • @missyhilary8905
      @missyhilary8905 3 года назад +2

      @@rlopezflute I know there were so many thousand musicians who were trying to oppose a 440. I seem to remember middle C being tune to a 432 through the 80s. Then, it seem to me that C was changing into C sharp. Little by little by little, Noticed a 440 becoming more and more prevalent.

    • @rlopezflute
      @rlopezflute 3 года назад +2

      @@missyhilary8905 ​ @Missy and Hilary Sisters it's weird, some orchestras here in the US even tune to 441. My piccolo & alto flutes are tuned to 442 because they were made in Germany & Japan, which tune their instruments higher. I have to pull the headjoints out more in ensemble, but not as much when I'm playing alone. I kind of prefer 442 to 440 because the airs comes out a little easier.

    • @kidsvideos3886
      @kidsvideos3886 3 года назад +1

      U are right! I feel the same 👍🏻

    • @Lascarnn
      @Lascarnn 2 года назад +10

      It's exactly that, sounds warmer because it is lower. If you'll compare A 432 with for example A 420 - then A 420 will be warmer... And we can go on like this. No magic here :)

  • @migza8694
    @migza8694 3 года назад

    thoroughly enjoyed your content, context & delivery, thanks heaps!

  • @themightychabunga2441
    @themightychabunga2441 7 лет назад +11

    I like the Oldsmobile 442.

  • @yezrtn
    @yezrtn 5 лет назад +59

    Spiritual so in the building 🧘🏾‍♂️

    • @the-engneer
      @the-engneer 4 года назад

      That guy is a narcissistic imbecile who sits on his lawn drawing in coloring books with crayons, and stares at the sun

  • @konBee01
    @konBee01 6 лет назад

    Rick, you 've just nailed it! So much fun watching your videos. Thanks and keep it up.

  • @danacoleman4007
    @danacoleman4007 5 лет назад

    That was a hell of a lot of information in under 3 minutes. Thanks Rick!

  • @thechrishouse
    @thechrishouse 5 лет назад +78

    SoLLUMINATI is blowing up this comment section like crazy!
    STAY WOKE!

    • @20MEANS
      @20MEANS 4 года назад +4

      Chris House STFU.

    • @the-engneer
      @the-engneer 4 года назад +1

      That guy is a narcissistic imbecile who sits on his lawn drawing in coloring books with crayons, and stares at the sun

    • @asphyxia2243
      @asphyxia2243 4 года назад

      20Means Speaks NoFap! 🔥🔥

  • @suluguitar9579
    @suluguitar9579 Год назад +13

    I heard years ago that 440a was made so we would be forced into a more discordant type vibration overall concerning the music. Just something I'd heard in past, kind of like fluoride and other things people claim were introduced to not help us. I'm sure others have heard the same thing. Rick I dig your videos, all of them! 🎸

    • @DerHammerSpricht
      @DerHammerSpricht Год назад

      We have the Rockefellers to thank for enforcing 440 Hz as standard. They also gave us the brutal American public school system and helped fund the rise of the Third Reich. Go figure.

    • @hey.3249
      @hey.3249 7 месяцев назад

      Hitler did this in his country

  • @cxndom7343
    @cxndom7343 5 лет назад +1

    Quick and straight to the point. Thanks!

  • @IsaacCarrizal
    @IsaacCarrizal 7 лет назад +2

    I like your videos (even though they often go over my head and make me cry like an infant at my own ineptitude, leaving me wanting to: 432 part quit to 440 part get on my instrument).
    This was so informative and cheeky at the same time. It made a potentially dry subject fun to watch. This has been my favorite so far!

  • @freezatron
    @freezatron 7 лет назад +8

    haha I love the way you couldn't keep a straight face when mentioning chrystal healing energies and the frequencies of the universe woo woo :D :D :D

  • @Nulzy
    @Nulzy 5 лет назад +3

    Spiry🙏🏾 So in the buildin

  • @timmaeder
    @timmaeder 4 года назад

    Well done! Excellent reference video. Thanks!

  • @user-rt1qh8hv7p
    @user-rt1qh8hv7p 4 года назад

    I was waiting for you so long man thank you

  • @keithfranklin7489
    @keithfranklin7489 5 месяцев назад +3

    432 is so much easier and natural for me to sing to , also 432 is very calming , I put it on before bed and during work commute traffic and within minutes I am calm relaxed and happy

  • @WhiteOakAmps
    @WhiteOakAmps 7 лет назад +31

    Dear sir, this standardization issue is a bit of a "red herring" in that it supposes that the frequency that A is mapped to is really important, but as you point out for centuries (perhaps millennia) to exactly map a master tuning frequency to 440 Hz would have been impossible without modern science. So how did they tune at all? For guitarists this an important point and leads us to the 6th, and the difference between natural tuning and equal temperament and Das wohltemperierte Klavier (The well-tempered Clavier) by Bach and the differences in the fractions that make up Natural tuning (for instance tuning a guitar or piano to an open chord such as G Major or E Major versus Standard tuning. When tuned to the single Major Chord, as one goes around the Circle of Fifths, the 6ths begin to detune due to the fractions used in relation to the key center. Meanwhile in Standard or Equal Temperament, the division between half-steps is constant, and thus as one goes around the Circle of Fifths (no matter what key one is in), the "out-of-tuneness" is spread across all semitones as opposed to being solely centered on the 6th. If I am not mistaken, this also is the source of differences in notation on enharmonic notes, and the use of sharps when ascending and flats when descending for historical purposes. And finally, it took the three strings of a harpsichord or piano to really center in on equal temperament. Electronically, due to the fact that sine waves produced by electricity do not have inherent overtone artifacts unless they are deliberately designed in, we can have any mapping we desire, but it won't sound "as real" until the proper odd and even harmonics are added. Just my two cents. Great video

    • @garyrahn2172
      @garyrahn2172 4 года назад +23

      Dude, that's like at least 3 cents.

    • @missyhilary8905
      @missyhilary8905 3 года назад +3

      A very succinct reply.

    • @ESPspiderXIII
      @ESPspiderXIII 2 года назад

      This would explain as to why my open chord tuned guitars sound better tuned to A332 vs Standard tuned; then I just stick to the 'norm'.

  • @ruthratliff-voiceprofessio1090
    @ruthratliff-voiceprofessio1090 2 года назад

    Great explanation! I play singing bowls tuned to 440 and they do the job just fine, thank you. I believe that intention trumps all. Thank you!

  • @wolkowy1
    @wolkowy1 7 лет назад

    Thanks for this very important issue and upload.

  • @timnewman1172
    @timnewman1172 2 года назад +17

    I like to approximate 432 on acoustic guitar for a few reasons, mainly string tension on "long scale"(25.5") instruments. Tuning down a full half-step seems just a bit too flat, 432 just seems warmer to my ears...

    • @ThePhreakass
      @ThePhreakass 2 года назад +3

      It's okay to be tone deaf

    • @jamesworley9888
      @jamesworley9888 Год назад +1

      @@ThePhreakass Maybe what you call tone deaf is actually the better music but we've listened to 440 for so long we think it's vice versa. Just a thought, no use in acting like we have all the answers because the world would be perfect if we did. If you don't like 432 hz that's fine but there's no use in being evangelical about something we only know on the surface level.

  • @sdb6757
    @sdb6757 4 года назад +8

    I’ve found it a bit easier to sing when tuned 432.

  • @sobhhi
    @sobhhi 4 года назад

    Thanks for the informative video Rick

  • @HaydenJoseph22
    @HaydenJoseph22 Год назад

    Love the nerdy factor of this topic...and two thumbs up for the experts opinions 👍

  • @redshoe6833
    @redshoe6833 5 лет назад +27

    I agree with Lennon. I moved to 432 Hz just because it seems a little richer in tone and seems to make slight intonation problems less noticeable. It's no big deal to me because all my gigs are solo. I keep a Strat tuned to 440 Hz, just in case you want to jam.

  • @inoahlot757
    @inoahlot757 5 лет назад +13

    luminati gang spiritual So in the building Sungazing So in the building

  • @sethcahn1931
    @sethcahn1931 7 лет назад

    Thank you so much for this.

  • @axltyler
    @axltyler 7 лет назад

    I found this video absolutely fascinating!

  • @caspermaster-com
    @caspermaster-com 7 лет назад +15

    I tune everything to 1 then makes the strings 432 times shorter.
    cuz oneness is the ultimate truth

    • @OsvaldoBayerista
      @OsvaldoBayerista 3 года назад +5

      I'm 4 years later, but i love this comment, lmao.

  • @kevnar
    @kevnar 2 года назад +11

    Even if water reacts differently to 432 hz, tuning music down to that frequency will only effect water (or anything else) when that particular octave of A is played. Music changes chords, pitch, and tones constantly. Unless the entire song is just one long A note, it's not really going to realign your chakra or whatever.

    • @spacercake
      @spacercake 2 года назад +5

      We are 60% water

    • @ilcubo32
      @ilcubo32 2 года назад

      @@spacercake What about many types of protein in our body? What about DNA and RNA?

    • @monty3322
      @monty3322 2 года назад

      Good point. Not many songs out there that only use A . If a person wanted to try vibration or resonance therapy, maybe a difference, who knows?

    • @GodPorter144
      @GodPorter144 2 года назад

      @@spacercake I thought I was bugging🤣 the whole point is if it can do that to water it can do worse to us

    • @cheery-hex
      @cheery-hex 2 года назад

      In reference to your last words... you don't know that

  • @LoveRackett
    @LoveRackett 7 лет назад

    Thank you Rick,, just was thinking that we can all play together now !!!

  • @stogies3
    @stogies3 7 лет назад +1

    Hahaha the kids put everything in order.
    I'm glad i didn't miss this one.
    thank You Rick.
    Zsolt

  • @jerseydeviljohnnyfeds9347
    @jerseydeviljohnnyfeds9347 5 лет назад +13

    FINALLY SOME INTELLIGENT TRUTH ABOUT THIS ARGUMENT!

  • @76madhur
    @76madhur 7 лет назад +5

    This was quite a funny video. great explanation

  • @michaelwallace4298
    @michaelwallace4298 5 месяцев назад +1

    Just saw this - some 6 years later. Brilliant! What the people talking about a few cents either way don't seem to grasp is that music is not a single note, it is the resonance of harmonics. Shape of the room, even the moisture in the air can subtlety alter this. Let's tune the room, not the minutia! Go Rick!

  • @stevensrp2music985
    @stevensrp2music985 3 года назад

    Thanks for the wonderful info

  • @jrsmoots
    @jrsmoots 7 лет назад +51

    You won't convince all the new age nuts with facts, man!

    • @colinwright4139
      @colinwright4139 4 года назад +3

      Tell me about it, but for some reason, I can't stop being triggered by the fruitcakes.

    •  4 года назад +4

      Pythagoras has NOTHING to do with New Age, idiots!

    • @rodrigofriend5759
      @rodrigofriend5759 4 года назад +3

      @ please go listen to some Pythagorean tuned music, and I don't mean the ambient music, I mean music with somewhat complex harmony, it sounds like utter crap, no music where the ratio of the major third is 81/64 will sound good

    • @poodle3507
      @poodle3507 4 года назад +2

      @ Pythagoras has nothing to do with 432hz

  • @j.c.spires398
    @j.c.spires398 Год назад +28

    I had never heard of 432 vs 440 until somebody I hardly knew randomly sent me a video addressing it a year ago. It was an interesting video. A little bit new agey but interesting enough that I decided to try it. Lo and behold when I started singing it did seem like some ethereal static that I had subconsciously always fought against had been removed!
    Last month I did my first gig in a while and definitely asked the band to all tune at 432 Hz.
    Of course my mind was occupied with all the details of doing a show so I really forgot completely all about the fact that we had tuned down at 432. No question for the whole night I was kind of marveling over the way my vocals sat so comfortably on top of the mix!? That doesn’t happen a lot. Also the instruments were never fighting against each other. Each instrument seemed to have comfortable space. And we were not too loud. We were not un-loud But we were not too loud. I could see people still able to converse with each other even though we were playing at a decent volume. It was a few days before it occurred to me that it might’ve had something to do with us performing at 432HZ. I know there’s lots of snarkiness and mockers and scoffers around this idea. Lol… And may be 440 is/was more appropriate for our beloved rock ‘n’ roll era that was aggressive and harsh from the get-go. But as for me I love playing and singing at 432. My two cents! Great RUclips channel Rick thank you!

    • @andersbarfodsvaneskolan9378
      @andersbarfodsvaneskolan9378 Год назад +2

      Interesting post. I find that 440Hz- 442Hz makes the notes in the 12-TET scale sit rather high in resonance in the throat.. Move pitch down to 432Hz and most notes just seem to hover at my voices relaxed state.. And singing high in my upper middle register C4 to E4 becomes much more comftable.. In fact the passaggio E4 might be the most tricky note for my voice.. Move pitch down to 431Hz that E4 becomes so much easier to find the balance..

    • @esterhammerfic
      @esterhammerfic Год назад

      It sounds like your voice benefits from a lower tuning. But my guess is that it's not necessarily A=432. The same relaxation would probably come from tuning to A=434 or A=431. If it works for you though, go with it.

    • @andersbarfodsvaneskolan9378
      @andersbarfodsvaneskolan9378 Год назад

      @@esterhammerfic
      I tried with many tunings.. I tried A4=430Hz and I find it a little too low when I hit my lower chest register.. The sweet-spot for my voice is around 434Hz..

  • @NotRightMusic
    @NotRightMusic 7 лет назад +2

    I see your editing skills are evolving!

    • @RickBeato
      @RickBeato  7 лет назад +4

      Not Right Music it's easier with short videos. If I spent more time on editing I would put out less videos and shorter ones with less information.

  • @bestsleepsounds7370
    @bestsleepsounds7370 2 года назад

    Love the video. The experts at the end say it all. Too funny!

  • @hubertvancalenbergh9022
    @hubertvancalenbergh9022 7 лет назад +9

    How can we disagree with an authority of Dylan's calibre!

  • @treychozen51
    @treychozen51 5 лет назад +6

    Sollumanati brought me here

  • @TheStrick1976
    @TheStrick1976 4 года назад

    That was the best. Thanks Guru.

  • @seankennedy1377
    @seankennedy1377 Год назад

    Very informative video. Thank you

  • @david.cutipa
    @david.cutipa 7 лет назад +18

    Coming soon "SOUNDING OFF with Dylan, Lennon and Layla" :)

    • @Blizite
      @Blizite 7 лет назад

      That would be interesting.

  • @rlopezflute
    @rlopezflute 3 года назад +27

    I have a theory on these 2 tuning systems. I think if our tuning system had been in 432, the world would be a better place... it's a fascinating "what-if" thought that i often have, although it's impossible. It's still fun to hear comparisons. There's something different about 432 tuning that draws you in. And this is coming from someone who has perfect pitch in 440. It's taken a while to get used to 432.

    • @vectragt2310
      @vectragt2310 Год назад +3

      One day has 86400 seconds... 432/864...
      That´s in line / sync with everything - the whole cosmos.
      That is why sensitive people feel that. But in our dumbed down society it´s all just nuts...
      Mankind is ignorant like...

    • @rlopezflute
      @rlopezflute Год назад +5

      @@vectragt2310oh wow, I didn't know about the seconds of rhe day. I do know that 432/12 = 36, but what is interesting is 440/12 =36.666 🧐 No wonder so many musicians have anxiety &/or are depressed! And that includes myself. If we're constantly exposed to unequal frequencies, it's doing something to us physically & emotionally. I wish more research was done on this.

    • @vectragt2310
      @vectragt2310 Год назад +3

      @@rlopezflute
      432/8 = physical
      432/9 = spiritual / Ether side
      And yes, 440 was put in place on purpose...
      Also, no further investigation needs to be done if people learn to follow their intuiton and heart/earth.

    • @RoderickVoordouw
      @RoderickVoordouw 11 месяцев назад +2

      @@vectragt2310 One day has 85.984,091 seconds, we just rounded it down to 24 hours. Also, a day is not the same in the whole cosmos, only our Earth day is roughly 24 hours. Stop trying to be smart as if 432Hz is in tune with the universe or something, it isn't even in tune by your own standards.

    • @vectragt2310
      @vectragt2310 11 месяцев назад

      @@RoderickVoordouw
      Well, then I made an incorrect statement.
      In line with earth and its frequency, as we ARE ON EARTH. And with 440 you are out of sync and it is not coincidence this became western standard.
      There won´t be a direct effect from listening to 432, but over time when it would be all over the radio, etc. DNA and concioussness would change. As you surely know DNA is dynamic.
      So stop trying to tell bs...

  • @eienzero
    @eienzero 3 года назад

    this video will never get old

  • @TheNellNadie
    @TheNellNadie 7 лет назад

    Thanks for the great videos! Can you upload more short and sweet videos like this? I usually don't have a lot of time.

  • @doublecup349
    @doublecup349 5 лет назад +4

    Sun gazing So in the building.

  • @QariMurKalot
    @QariMurKalot 5 лет назад +3

    SOOOOOO GANG where we at‼️

  • @gilbertnorum4366
    @gilbertnorum4366 7 лет назад

    I'm fan of those experts. Layla! I like A=442 as well! Love the channel Maestro!

  • @cameronkanemusic7738
    @cameronkanemusic7738 4 года назад +1

    Thanks Rick! Always enjoy your videos. This became an issue today while I was learning Ticket To Ride. Listening to the Beatles on RUclips it seems to be in the key of Ab, except strangely the Ab seems to be tuned up 50 cents. So it tunes up as Ab +50 cent. I have since heard that early Beatles recorded with A = 435 and the mix was sped-up as necessary.

    • @snice.
      @snice. 2 года назад

      I was doing the same thing and noticed it too! If it was 435 Hz wouldn’t that be only 20 cents flat though of an A if 4 cents is roughly a hertz?

  • @killavenger
    @killavenger 7 лет назад +39

    By the way how does Dylan react to microtonal music? And also it would be interesting to hear your opinion on microtonal music composers, thanks!

    • @ivyssauro123
      @ivyssauro123 6 лет назад +2

      killavenger he has said that he hears a kind of mixture of two tones, meaning A and A# simultaneously when hearing a sharper A, each note getting more noticeable the closer to the actual pitch they hold they are.

  • @kingblaze7272
    @kingblaze7272 5 лет назад +9

    who else here from so

  • @777damonk
    @777damonk 6 лет назад +1

    When I did cartage back in LA (late 80s, 90s) I remember talking with some of the piano tuners. They routinely tuned the pianos in the studios a bit sharp (A443 if I remember correctly). Can't remember their rationale but I remember wondering where it would end!

  • @hekeenkl2665
    @hekeenkl2665 6 месяцев назад

    great ... a huge thank u ... straight to the point without the usual dribble

  • @DHRGrafix
    @DHRGrafix 2 года назад +3

    I like singing in A432 for the same reason I like tuning to Eb. It's easier to hit high notes. But it's a hassle tuning back and forth when I play with other people, recordings or RUclips so I just play in A440 99.9% of the time.

  • @colek.r5280
    @colek.r5280 2 года назад +4

    Before i discovered that there was a literal debate over this i first noticed when listening to some heavy metal/rock records that they sounded off when i tried to jam along to them and figured it must be like a 'quarter step down' using my ear and ended up with 430hz and have had my floyd rose set up in this particular tuning for a few years now. it sucks having to detune every single (almost) song i wanna jam to haha but you will find that lots of mechanical/electronic/harmonic tones you will hear in your day to day life will resonate with this tuning! i think that must be where the whole 'freq of the universe' stuff came from...

    • @guyincognito320
      @guyincognito320 Год назад +1

      the earth's frequency is supposedly 8 hz, and 432 is divisible by 8 54 times. 5+4 = 9, and 9 +11 = NINE ELEVEN

  • @nicholascastucci4547
    @nicholascastucci4547 9 месяцев назад

    This is my favorite Beato video.

  • @lizzz5267
    @lizzz5267 3 года назад +1

    i love how orchestras were so concentrated on one hertz of difference when u almost definitely cant notice it

  • @MrAnders1976
    @MrAnders1976 7 лет назад +5

    Notes A3=216Hz (-31.77 cents) and G#3=204Hz (-30.7 cents),, just lay completely natural to my voice.. The ~ 30 cents lift from ~432Hz to 440Hz for A4 is not natural for my voice... MY voice relaxed resonance is around the tuning of A4 at 432Hz.. Singing high notes comes very natural when the guitar is tunes at 432Hz vs 440Hz.. The passaggio is shifted too high at 440Hz
    Infact the highest pitch for my voice if I lay of a lot of weight (early transition) is ~438Hz (~8 cents). A4=440Hz is very difficult to find the balance in the throat.. In my world 440Hz excludes a lot of voices in music.. The previous european pitch at 435Hz is a better comprimise between a high (445Hz) and low pitch (425Hz).
    A4=424-425Hz would be close to Mozats and Händels pitch as they used a forks at A4=421.6 and 422.5Hz but they were probably using a more "pure" tuning system like meantone or just intonation which was much more common which sets the A (major six. or La) note flatter relative to 12-TET in the C major scale. I think it was a piano tuning company from late 1800s that had their pianos tuned in Meantone at 433.5Hz for A4 and with 12-TET is was A4=436Hz. A difference of ~10 cents.
    A tenor hitting the high notes to Händels halleluja to a piano tuned to 425Hz would be easy, nice and full.. At modern A4=442-443Hz which many like to tune their classical instruments at .. The tenor sounds bad... It is only the spinto tenors (very few individuals) that would sing the high part with ease...
    We got it all wrong,, The previous pitch at 435Hz is as high the note of A4 should have gone to get the right classical division of fachs..
    This is a fact...440Hz is a very "unnatural" singing pitch if I may use that word.

    • @havokmusicinc
      @havokmusicinc 7 лет назад +3

      dansk björn 440 is unnatural to your body, and it is to mine as well - but my body is more comfortable around 450. The tiny bit of extra sharpness really helps me maintain consitant intonation. Conversely, I have an old bass trumpet that doesn't tune any higher than 430 - and I prefer to play it around 425. Every body and every instrument is different, and you gotta do what works best for you and for your equipment!

    • @MrAnders1976
      @MrAnders1976 7 лет назад

      424-425/449-450hz as a nice spot i completely can relate to. it is another nice area together with the 432/457hz area. what is your vocal fach when singing..
      the weirdest pitch area for my voice is 439-445hz. not low enough and not high enough

  • @fitzjoseph13
    @fitzjoseph13 7 лет назад +6

    Hey Rick - do you believe in such a thing as 'perfect tempo'? If so, is it acquired in the same manner as perfect pitch?

    • @JXter_
      @JXter_ 7 лет назад

      Would "perfect tempo" be like being able to tap, say, 44.73 beats per minute accurately?
      I don't think this exists, but if it did, I would assume it would be parallel to perfect pitch, and would have a contrasting relative tempo. People without perfect pitch come close by using relative pitch, so they keep in mind a particular note and figure out the interval between the given pitch and the note - relative tempo would be achieved by say, listening to your watch ticks and knowing what 60 BPM sounds like, then you tap a rhythm at 60 BPM that gives you some other rhythm (if you tap dotted quarter notes at 60 BPM, you get 45 BPM - if you tap half notes at 60 BPM, you get 30 BPM - you can work out most tempos by doing a process like this). It's a starting point, but I would imagine it's not possible to be _that_ accurate at memorizing tempo.

    • @geroffmilan3328
      @geroffmilan3328 6 лет назад

      Paul Sampson for mammals, that's roughly 1.5 million heartbeats
      Yep, bizarrely enough, our organs have finite operating limits, just like the things we manufacture.
      Sobering thought.

  • @ToniMazzotti
    @ToniMazzotti Год назад +2

    Sexagesimal second have 6.000 years. To discuss the seconds and the measurement of time and space based on the rounded seconds for the Hertz, before, we need to understand the sexagesimais origins of the second. Each turn of the clock has 43,200 slices, or seconds. And the number 60 is not a random choice. 60 is the smallest number with the largest number of connections: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 10, 12, 15, 20, 30 and 60. We don't invent mathematics, we just discover the relationships between the quantities, and give them names. That's why I reaffirm that to understand the relationship between the number 432 and the sexagesimal mandala of 60, we need to understand its origins in mathematics, geometry and cosmology.

  • @immanuelpatten8386
    @immanuelpatten8386 3 года назад +2

    Cycles per second weren't specifically measured until the year 1834 when the Savart Wheel and the Tonometer where invented, but because the metric system came out in 1795, music was accurate; even more so, relatively, than most people today with tuners. They knew, then, the note range for any given length of tube for a horn or a pipe organ to get different notes for transposition. The earliest development known for the metric system is from John Wilkins.
    In 1668, he proposed a coordinated system of units of measure for length, area, volume, and mass. This means that people knew what they were tuning and building their instruments to for more than half of the Baroque Era and all of the Classical Era. Things are generally accepted before they become standardized, but even if instrument makers didn't know the Hertz value, the metric system is defined as being derived from nature.
    So, like I've explained, instrument makers, then, knew the acoustical output of instruments based on the shapes and sizes of natural objects through simple observation. They might not have had tuners, but Europeans knew how to trace and compare lengths precisely since before they came out of caves. Perception is rooted in nature and the observation of it consciously.
    This is why your son sang a 33 and a third cent wide quarter tone. Let me explain; he had to hear when one note range started and the other one ended. 448 Hz tuning actually sounds 1/3 of a note flat, 440 Hz sounds 1/3 of a note sharp, and 432 Hz, being 40 octaves lower than the calibration of primary and secondary visual colors within a 12 tone system, sound balanced.
    Stay with me, now. He sang the note up past 448 Hz tuning and touched 456 Hz tuning (the next note up from 432 Hz) and in doing so, he then brought it down to where the note would sound so flat that it couldn't be confused with being the same note compare to the commercial standard of tuning. Take a look at this repeating pattern rooted in the conscious awareness of the complete range of any "A" (Orange) that is 40 octaves lower than the THz range of the visible colors Red through Yellow:
    •flat = 400 Hz = Ab = Raspberry-Red
    +8 Hz
    •in-tune = 408 Hz = Ab = Red
    +8 Hz
    •sharp = 416 Hz =Ab = Orange-Red
    + 8 Hz
    •flat = 424 Hz = A = Red-Orange
    +8 Hz
    •in-tune = 432 Hz = A = Orange
    +8 Hz
    •sharp = 440 Hz = A = Yellow-Orange
    +8 Hz
    •flat = 448 Hz = A# = Orange-Yellow
    +8 Hz
    •in-tune = 456 Hz = A# = Yellow
    +8 Hz
    •sharp = 464 Hz = A# = Lime-Yellow
    We are dealing with microtones, here, but compared to the World War tuning, in-tune is flat; flat is sharp (as the next note down); and, (as sharp as any note can be before it is in the next range of color) is in-tune.
    Understanding this will have you realize that 440 Hz came about to make music sound sharp. It is better to sound sharp than out of tune, but that is just 440 Hz, not 442 Hz or 445 Hz.
    I hope that this explains some of the weird theories that claim that 432 Hz can expand your awareness. It sure could help you to understand and develop perfect pitch. Thank you for taking the time to read all of this.

  • @maximyanchenko3780
    @maximyanchenko3780 7 лет назад +24

    Explanation is very simple. They are just making money. On almost every website discussing how 432 Hz is better you will find CDs for sale (at least this is how it was 10 years ago when all that nonsense started).

    • @BringerOfBloood
      @BringerOfBloood 7 лет назад +10

      That's the explanation for new age bullshit in general btw.

    • @Synequanon
      @Synequanon 6 лет назад +5

      It's pretty much the same with other conspiracy based websites : they often have books or/and DVDs to sell !
      It's all about making bucks

    • @TheSoulBlossom
      @TheSoulBlossom 4 года назад +1

      what conspiracy theories are you talking about? no one is talking about conspiracy theories here yet you, a bunch of lazy wankers, are doing just that! You are the ones who are crazy not those who discover the truth about the world we live in :) Let me repeat this :) YOU ARE THE ONES WHO ARE CRAZY :) Deal with that :)

  • @llBadSremmll
    @llBadSremmll 5 лет назад +11

    Who came from solluminati 🤦🏾‍♂️🤣

  • @steevf
    @steevf 7 лет назад

    I think this is the best video I've seen about this "controversy" so far.

  • @utubehound69
    @utubehound69 7 лет назад

    This was Great!

  • @TomWinspear
    @TomWinspear 7 лет назад +20

    This discussion pops up a lot!The long list of pseudocience/spirituality stuff you reeled off makes me laugh for sure haha. It's clear there can't be a superior system in regards to anything like that, because resonances of physical bodies will never be consistent. Also, any significance of the number 432 is entirely arbitrary like you explained. Besides, that's just one single frequency of one single note whilst music contains the full spectrum!When people push such reasons in support of 432, they tend to show a fundamental misunderstanding of how sound works - throwing around words like resonance, harmonics, overtones, without realising that all these things remain consistent, just slightly lower. Their points could be used to argue for tuning systems like Just Intonation vs 12EDO, but 12EDO vs 12EDO slightly lower is really irrelevant. Tune to whatever :) As a rule of thumb lower will sound a bit calmer for sure. I liked Jacob Colliers modulation from 440 to 432 as it displays that effect very well.

  • @rhodigian
    @rhodigian 2 года назад +5

    i'd like to hear A432 compared to other alternative tunings, like A420 or something like that.
    My doubt is: is the relaxing effect due to just lowering frequency, or do 432 resonates better than higher and lower tunings?

    • @vectragt2310
      @vectragt2310 Год назад

      A day has 86400 seconds...
      The blind are leading the blind into darkness...

    • @rhodigian
      @rhodigian Год назад

      @@vectragt2310 things are looking up but falling down

  • @erickaholland5613
    @erickaholland5613 2 года назад

    Thank you. For making that whole 440 v. 432hz thing make sense.

  • @BenjaminGessel
    @BenjaminGessel Год назад +1

    It’s all about the harmonies and ratios of one pitch compared to another. 😁👍

  • @marthadelcastillo2551
    @marthadelcastillo2551 3 года назад +3

    I think I have a negative effect to 440. Life somebody"ruffling my feathers".You made much more clear as to get people to understand these concepts. Physics was one of my favorite subjects in highschool but still how does this translate to practice, real life,how can I choose to tune my guitar to 432Hz?

  • @bryantejeda5100
    @bryantejeda5100 5 лет назад +6

    Scat Pack So In the building Heeeeeeeee

  • @ChuloDavidcito
    @ChuloDavidcito 7 лет назад

    Thanks for that cool info, Rick! I'll just add that when I play A666, your image appears in my grilled cheese sandwich! All Hail!

  • @gergelyzaruba1340
    @gergelyzaruba1340 3 года назад

    Loved it!

  • @contambrah
    @contambrah 7 лет назад +5

    or reduce the second by 0.0181818181818186.