Ellie Rose's Backstory Explained (A Henry Stickmin Collection Theory)

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  • Опубликовано: 17 янв 2025

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  • @2leftthumbs
    @2leftthumbs  4 года назад +886

    Thanks for all the love on these Stickmin videos (both references and theories!)
    Don't forget to follow up with the Completing the Mission references video ► ruclips.net/video/tywspLHqyaU/видео.html

    • @mcs9990
      @mcs9990 4 года назад +12

      You kinda sound like Swanky box
      no cap

    • @WingsOfKarma
      @WingsOfKarma 4 года назад +5

      Btw “eypizanos” is probably “Hey, Pizanos!” From the Super Mario Bros Super Show.

    • @lspacca23
      @lspacca23 4 года назад +7

      I know how Jacob is related to Ellie:
      Jacob is Ellie’s Brother

    • @monke3969
      @monke3969 4 года назад +5

      By the way have you seen Jacob rose he’s a night guard for stealing the diamond he’ s somehow related to Ellie

    • @zaidabanks506
      @zaidabanks506 4 года назад +4

      I don’t think she stole the Emerald I think she stole a gold

  • @Shyguymask
    @Shyguymask 4 года назад +4693

    Hypothetically if there ever was a "The Ellie Rose collection", The Force should be Ellie's version of the recurring Teleporter option!

  • @chiptuni
    @chiptuni 4 года назад +2290

    I do like the idea that Henry and Ellie's fates are so tied together that the ONE time Henry tries to leave behind and ignore Ellie, he is heavily punished and is left with the most ambiguous ending

    • @Owen_loves_Butters
      @Owen_loves_Butters 4 года назад +293

      Even the game is unsure.
      Mission complete?

    • @bluerious5475
      @bluerious5475 4 года назад +141

      I mean, it isn’t the one time he tries to leave Ellie behind considering the other 3 ghost inmate endings

    • @gmaskdrawz
      @gmaskdrawz 4 года назад +164

      When they said: **Ellie will remember that.** They really did meant it.

    • @creeperYT9824
      @creeperYT9824 4 года назад +32

      But reggie and rhm also die in that ending
      I found the proof on henry stickmin wiki

    • @goodpol5022
      @goodpol5022 3 года назад +28

      What do you mean one time? That is the only ending related to Ghost inmate that Ellie gets revenge

  • @igorlopes8463
    @igorlopes8463 4 года назад +2776

    There is also another big diference between Henry and Ellie: Ellie wil never uunderstand The Greatest Plan

  • @inkbit2734
    @inkbit2734 4 года назад +1336

    Puff: no more henry-realeted things.
    the new among us map: Bonjour

    • @Couch_Banana
      @Couch_Banana 4 года назад +44

      @Jollyfull Dippy Plays GD and More!
      Shh, don't ruin the joke.

    • @dripguy6073
      @dripguy6073 4 года назад +3

      hey what are we talking about?

    • @Phrogwastakenwastaken
      @Phrogwastakenwastaken 4 года назад +22

      it would be cool if they added the airship from infltrating the airship to among us

    • @Plasmy271
      @Plasmy271 4 года назад +10

      @Jollyfull Dippy Plays GD and More! How oblivious can you get

    • @surgicalmaterials
      @surgicalmaterials 4 года назад +10

      @Jollyfull Dippy Plays GD and More! maybe it is a joke. Idk

  • @Puptoon2022
    @Puptoon2022 4 года назад +789

    Sven Svenson (the Toppat Leader in all of the GSPI endings) says that there are multiple divisions in the Toppat Clan, and Henry only met the Airship Division, so Ellie could have met one of the other divisions before going to The Wall.

    • @2leftthumbs
      @2leftthumbs  4 года назад +181

      That's right! Dang I totally forgot about that. That'd be a cool tie in!

    • @loogiloog
      @loogiloog 4 года назад +78

      Who knows, maybe the biker gang is a division that went rogue and became their own gang?

    • @thesymbiotenation.4552
      @thesymbiotenation.4552 4 года назад +44

      @@2leftthumbs the Punk gang might either be a rival of the Toppats or be an offshoot

    • @wingedkatgirl
      @wingedkatgirl 4 года назад +7

      @@loogiloog I like this theory.

    • @darealconman
      @darealconman 4 года назад +21

      @@thesymbiotenation.4552 What if the Punk Biker Gang used to be members of the Toppat Clan, but got betrayed by the leaders of all the Toppat Divisions just like Henry did in the "The Betrayed" ending?

  • @Pursuitespoldaccount
    @Pursuitespoldaccount 4 года назад +928

    Game lore:
    Actual game: haha stickman get hurt

    • @Ediellee1
      @Ediellee1 4 года назад +30

      Creepypastas:haha you don’t wanna play stickman and you get nightmares haha

    • @ellierose932
      @ellierose932 4 года назад +10

      @@Ediellee1 O_O

    • @nindyfarrel1322
      @nindyfarrel1322 4 года назад +1

      @@Ediellee1 are there actually Stickmin creepypastas or is that a reference to Sonic .EXE or something?

    • @G1000-r5c
      @G1000-r5c 4 года назад +1

      @@nindyfarrel1322 Idk leme check

    • @G1000-r5c
      @G1000-r5c 4 года назад +2

      @@ellierose932
      O O
      __________/------------------\____________

  • @owen323
    @owen323 4 года назад +1783

    So in a nutshell, Ellie not only is/was a criminal like Henry, but may have been in same situations, with same resources, and luck Henry had.

    • @2leftthumbs
      @2leftthumbs  4 года назад +194

      I'd say that sums it up!
      Stick a wig on Henry. Swap the Diamond for the Emerald. And replace the Airship/Toppats with ____/Punks, and you have her backstory!

    • @wta1518
      @wta1518 4 года назад +29

      I find that unlikely due to
      1) A member of the CCC is imprisoned at The Wall
      2) The Wall appears to be Russian, and the CCC appears to be either American or independent of any country.
      Edit: RUclips put this under the wrong comment.

    • @pouncelygrin6699
      @pouncelygrin6699 4 года назад +4

      yep

    • @Suzduko667
      @Suzduko667 4 года назад +16

      ​@@wta1518 In number 1, you're talking about the CCC guy seen cowering by a rock during the prison riot in FtC, right? According to his bio card, he's actually the Wall's CCC liaison whose goal is to get the Wall priority during chaos incidents.

    • @honeymoonavenue444
      @honeymoonavenue444 4 года назад +4

      @@wta1518 sorry but i think it’s for Canada hehe

  • @TripleAy
    @TripleAy 4 года назад +2997

    The Ellie Rose Collection:
    Breaching the Vault
    Circumvent the Containment
    Crashing the Casino
    Accessing the Submarine
    Fleeing the Complex
    Completing the Mission

    • @ninjavanish2361
      @ninjavanish2361 4 года назад +138

      Good setup.

    • @gamedifficulty_4230
      @gamedifficulty_4230 4 года назад +315

      A bunch of German Punk Toppat equivalents living in submarine...
      My god... just think of all the random background conversations to analyse

    • @thesymbiotenation.4552
      @thesymbiotenation.4552 4 года назад +127

      @@gamedifficulty_4230 *Hitler screaming intensifies*

    • @Murasaki1357
      @Murasaki1357 4 года назад +36

      Nice work. I like.

    • @tyronejones1398
      @tyronejones1398 4 года назад +66

      I am not sure how AtS would work. Since ItA and FtC are the most important and the endings you got all comes back with CtM. While AtS would be unimportant. What if she became the leader? That would be completely unimportant because she would meet Henry and leave all of her bonds with her organization. That would just be a case of bad story-telling because an important part of the story is just completly ignored.

  • @stormstrikerpro
    @stormstrikerpro 4 года назад +280

    Puffballs actually talked about how their was a scrapped side story for Ellie in the collection in which you would play as her in the top hat clan to see how she ended up in the wall. It was scrapped due to the fact it would mean the game would take another year and it was hard to incorporate into completing the mission.

    • @Deathmare235
      @Deathmare235 2 года назад +9

      Would’ve been cool if they made it a separate game

    • @cutedogsweetsugar
      @cutedogsweetsugar 2 года назад +2

      Was this in video or a tweet? I'm wanting to find this.

    • @stormstrikerpro
      @stormstrikerpro 2 года назад +8

      @@cutedogsweetsugar It was in Puffballs’ developer commentary videos. You can find it on his channel where he plays through he entire series while talking about the development process. It’s hours long so no clue there exact time he mentions it.

    • @not_quiteknown
      @not_quiteknown 2 года назад +1

      So peck it fan made with be cannon?????

    • @themetalmario77
      @themetalmario77 Год назад +3

      Would've been nice if he released the script or anything similar

  • @camila_lt
    @camila_lt 4 года назад +1232

    Puffballs and the other part of InnerSloth: Yeah, of course we did that, haven't we Dave?

    • @Firegamer-ev5km
      @Firegamer-ev5km 4 года назад +101

      yeah yeah i mean if i didnt i woulld lose my job

    • @thearcanetraveler6683
      @thearcanetraveler6683 4 года назад +82

      Dave: and I dont wanna lose my job heh

    • @sachmy8339
      @sachmy8339 4 года назад +60

      Dave:*Laughing nervously

    • @Stick-Toons-508
      @Stick-Toons-508 4 года назад +6

      But who's Dave?

    • @sachmy8339
      @sachmy8339 4 года назад +31

      @@Stick-Toons-508Are ya new to Henry Stickmin?

  • @r.ipeter6445
    @r.ipeter6445 4 года назад +896

    I think that the wall is CCC's prison, they keep anomalys there like henry, he remember the multiverse. Ellie can use force. Freddie from FNAF etc

    • @davidbarrientos2062
      @davidbarrientos2062 4 года назад +44

      That have sense

    • @DaGamingCore
      @DaGamingCore 4 года назад +138

      Honestly, makes sense. It is the only game Gary Mann appears, and it is implied Frosty the Snowman is also locked up.

    • @SilveeYT
      @SilveeYT 4 года назад +21

      This makes the most sense, up here. ( 👀👆)

    • @TheRealSuperKirby
      @TheRealSuperKirby 4 года назад +58

      There was a CCC guy out in the cold

    • @KreepyBeepy
      @KreepyBeepy 4 года назад +88

      Its like the scp foundation except worse at containing things

  • @brainstar64
    @brainstar64 4 года назад +454

    So, since Jacob Rose is in Steeling the Diamond, there might be another Stickmin in Ellie's story at some point.

    • @danieltannoodles
      @danieltannoodles 4 года назад +13

      Henry's sister?

    • @brainstar64
      @brainstar64 4 года назад +17

      @@danieltannoodles Who knows. Maybe a cousin.

    • @YitocukKilic
      @YitocukKilic 4 года назад +7

      @DanThunder you can get an accent if you live in a country for enough time

    • @westleef
      @westleef 4 года назад +9

      @DanThunder I'm not completely dismissing the idea that they may in fact be unrelated, but what if they were just born in different places? People often have relatives who live in different countries, and Jacob could've immigrated.

    • @guy.animations2935
      @guy.animations2935 4 года назад

      A yes tom stickmin

  • @pandalion342
    @pandalion342 4 года назад +108

    Imagine if in Ellie's hypothetical version of Stealing the Diamond there's some inconsequential background character with Stickmin as their last name, who we can't find a way to tie back to Henry...

  • @NoahTheAmbitious
    @NoahTheAmbitious 4 года назад +332

    Henry: The Stupid Lead
    Ellie: The Love Interest
    Charles: **T h e G r e a t e s t P l a n**

    • @marcopohl4875
      @marcopohl4875 3 года назад +38

      except there's not the slightest indication that Ellie is the LI for either of them

    • @plebron8534
      @plebron8534 3 года назад +24

      Ellie: friend
      Charles: *PLAN*

    • @sirarpit397
      @sirarpit397 3 года назад +3

      I am the 69th liker *NICE*

    • @sirarpit397
      @sirarpit397 3 года назад +6

      @@cindyzhaoyingzi8719 Who asked you to reply?

    • @sirarpit397
      @sirarpit397 3 года назад +4

      @@cindyzhaoyingzi8719 Who asked you to reply to my reply to your reply to my comment?

  • @FsbrFsbrmdlo
    @FsbrFsbrmdlo 4 года назад +562

    Henry: the ability, no brains
    Ellie: no ability, the brains
    Charles: the helicopter, no good great plans
    Ability=can do it
    Brains=smart
    Helicopter=greatest plan

  • @Murasaki1357
    @Murasaki1357 4 года назад +456

    Ellie Rose my favorite character after Henry.
    Why PuffballsUnited just won't tell us about her past and after the events
    !
    Her story is very interesting!

    • @sangkim6556
      @sangkim6556 4 года назад +27

      Charles Calvin: am I a joke to you

    • @megcureton547
      @megcureton547 4 года назад +4

      Wolf wolf woof I love Henry and Ellie the same still I do not know which one to love More PS I love how Eli is more daring than Henry because if you read the bio of Ellry? It says it has the braveness of Eli and the luck of Henry yeeeee

    • @sammarino7357
      @sammarino7357 4 года назад +3

      I think the puffballs is never gonna explain her backstory. Because it’ll never be quite as good

    • @TheEmerald-pv4gn
      @TheEmerald-pv4gn 4 года назад

      Because they don't give a shit about her lmao.

    • @FalseRadiation
      @FalseRadiation 4 года назад +1

      Sang Kim yes

  • @TheRealSuperKirby
    @TheRealSuperKirby 4 года назад +292

    Jacob rose having colored hair makes me think that they are related rather than just having the same last name, plus in EtP they did everything they could to remove ties to Ellie so I don't think it was a oversight

    • @TheRealSuperKirby
      @TheRealSuperKirby 4 года назад +6

      This is the most liked comment I've ever had

    • @doges_6864
      @doges_6864 4 года назад +8

      @@jump-mansclone214 Matpat: ITS JUST A THEORY A GAM-
      Puffballs: No its the actual thing

    • @mohamadsarwar7997
      @mohamadsarwar7997 4 года назад +7

      @@jump-mansclone214 to be fair matpat can really be -1000 iq sometimes

    • @zacoyunda2001
      @zacoyunda2001 4 года назад +2

      This thread aged like milk

    • @nindyfarrel1322
      @nindyfarrel1322 4 года назад +2

      @@zacoyunda2001 I see that you've encountered Puff's devcom Twitch Stream aswell (honestly, alot of the confirmed facts are so... absurd, with my favorites such as Charles & Dave's surnames were originally fanon (a fanfic and wiki-edit respectively) and Puff decided to roll with it and make it canon, Ellie was supposed to be a Toppat that helped overthrow Suave with Reg and Right, and Rupert's canonicaly thinning-which has made 30% of the fanbase go on a short yet entertaining twitter civil war).

  • @gamedifficulty_4230
    @gamedifficulty_4230 4 года назад +179

    While I believe Puffballs when he says there will never be a spin-off. It is still notable that this isn’t exactly the first time he’s said this, The Henry stickman series has already had a few “last” games in the past

    • @Couch_Banana
      @Couch_Banana 4 года назад +41

      True, but the previous "last" games were never on the same scale as the collection.

    • @hiandente
      @hiandente 4 года назад +13

      Masahiro Sakurai situation

    • @charlescalvin1963
      @charlescalvin1963 4 года назад +19

      Maybe puff’s last game before he retire is going to be a actual final of henry stickmin to pay respect to the game that made him popular since he was already popular way before among us

    • @aretard7995
      @aretard7995 4 года назад +1

      @@Couch_Banana and?

    • @josefdelaville4638
      @josefdelaville4638 4 года назад +19

      @@charlescalvin1963 That's literally what the Henry Stickmin Collection is.

  • @t.o.d4868
    @t.o.d4868 4 года назад +74

    Puffballs: uhh. Y-Yeah! *scribble* we- we definitely thought- *scribble* of that!

    • @potterheadproductions5526
      @potterheadproductions5526 4 года назад +1

      I like your comment, The Weird Person Man :) Also, I don't want to be rude or something, but if you want more Henry Stickmin content, I know a cool channel. The channel is called "Brothers Theory Productions" and they make theories about various games. They already did 5 theories about Henry Stcikmin on the channel (It's their most popular topic). Feel free to check the channel out and their theories ;)

  • @ilostsandwichpermissions2360
    @ilostsandwichpermissions2360 4 года назад +108

    A Ellie backstory extra would make a great dlc

    • @miniluv7330
      @miniluv7330 4 года назад +7

      Puffballs said he’s not making DLC

    • @elhopper3735
      @elhopper3735 3 года назад +2

      It really would! I would totally play it

    • @paulo547
      @paulo547 3 года назад +8

      The only persons who can make this are the fans.

  • @PewPewBeets
    @PewPewBeets 4 года назад +1538

    To summarize: Ellie is a female Henry.

    • @SuperiorChaotic
      @SuperiorChaotic 4 года назад +134

      To summarize, Charles is the greatest Henry with a headset.

    • @captainsprinkles6557
      @captainsprinkles6557 4 года назад +117

      Plot Twist: Every stick figure is Henry but from another dimension.

    • @eddiefirstenberg1000
      @eddiefirstenberg1000 4 года назад +23

      @@prestondave9944 but in some endings Henry is the leader of the toppats(specifically Toppat King and Toppat 4 Life)

    • @ellierose932
      @ellierose932 4 года назад +20

      what?

    • @pouncelygrin6699
      @pouncelygrin6699 4 года назад +5

      yeah why not

  • @MariuigiKhed
    @MariuigiKhed 4 года назад +54

    10:14 I have a theory on the Tunisian Diamond being stolen by the Toppats: they DID stole it, they mayor (that we later discover he's with the Toppats) made a fake story in which he (or someone else) managed to retrive back the Diamond, while in reality he just used for... i dunno... votes? But then Henry stole it and that explain why he's not entitled "Mayor" in CtM bios.

    • @DroneDashRBLX_inf
      @DroneDashRBLX_inf 4 года назад +1

      No no no, It is later revealed that he is a TOPPAT. The news didn't know that Henry stole it, self-explanatory if you do, Unseen Burglar. Just Plain Epic, the Museum was destroyed and no one alive who actually KNEW Henry stole it so they could inform so. And for Intruder on a Scooter, well, since Henry fell ppl thought Henry died so there was no use Actually informing this news.

    • @MariuigiKhed
      @MariuigiKhed 4 года назад

      @@DroneDashRBLX_inf i said something completely diffrent: I'm saying that Alice (the news reporter) is right, so... WHEN did the Toppats stole the diamond? Before STD.

    • @cadefilms4072
      @cadefilms4072 4 года назад

      Well henry stole the diamond and then Henry becomes a toppat so I guess that’s why it says that uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh the toppats stole the diamond xnsusxxxx$ fd f a

    • @MariuigiKhed
      @MariuigiKhed 4 года назад +1

      @@cadefilms4072 no, because in the baron jewels ending, he wasn't a toppat, so no

    • @synexiasaturnds727yearsago7
      @synexiasaturnds727yearsago7 2 года назад

      @@cadefilms4072 you can continue the sentence, it's fine

  • @Dr.Goon3
    @Dr.Goon3 4 года назад +276

    Near the end he basically just says “Charles is worse then the other two lol” nice video I always wonder her backstory

    • @humanpearson7122
      @humanpearson7122 4 года назад +16

      Lmao, maybe that is the reason why the VH ending exists, to point out Charles? Idk... still is the fan favorite

    • @DisneyfanBeckers
      @DisneyfanBeckers 4 года назад +29

      Charles is more of a concrete character in the series, part of the Government which is an established faction we can join, just like Reginald is in the Toppat Clan which is a different established faction to possibly join. No characters in the separate established factions are shown to possess the abilities Henry and Ellie have.

    • @humanpearson7122
      @humanpearson7122 4 года назад +3

      @@DisneyfanBeckers I agree

    • @pugsriel
      @pugsriel 4 года назад +1

      Analyzing his theory, the reason he says that is because Charles is the worst character in the collection

    • @humanpearson7122
      @humanpearson7122 4 года назад +1

      @@pugsriel true but somehow, he is fan favorite

  • @erossauro2427
    @erossauro2427 4 года назад +148

    I have a theory: Ellie was a recruit from the biker gang, Ellie Stole The Emerald alone without help and took it to the gang, but the Tophat Clan saw her stealing the emerald and followed her, so after that Ellie was accused of making the Clan follow her So the gang kicked her out and after that the whole gang went to The Wall including Ellie
    PS: Sorry for the bad English, I'm Brazilian

    • @renstrout
      @renstrout 4 года назад +6

      Nah man your english is fine mate, cool theory

    • @erossauro2427
      @erossauro2427 4 года назад +1

      @@renstrout thanks.

    • @shadedcycle
      @shadedcycle 4 года назад +3

      Punkhauser's bio in FtC can disprove this theory: He's part of a german biker gang, he's the only member to have been caught.

    • @erossauro2427
      @erossauro2427 4 года назад +1

      @@shadedcycle You're right

    • @epsilonsix1996
      @epsilonsix1996 4 года назад

      Boa teoria amigo

  • @someguy9293
    @someguy9293 3 года назад +24

    I could understand PuffBallsUnited.
    Sometimes the greatest Stories are best untold. And as a creator he probably lost interest, or hit the creative wall. Plus he probably, thinks it's better to have a fans build up Ellie Rose's story arch, then creating a whole new game explaining how Ellie ended up in the Complex to begin with.

  • @SourBoy
    @SourBoy 4 года назад +161

    Considering that Jacob Rose talks with Ted McAdams, someone who is important in Henry's first step in his story, it could be possible that Jacob is involved somehow in the first step in Ellie's story. (This might also mean something for Kurt Dietrich considering he talks with Dave Panpa but I don't know if that would really matter)

    • @SourBoy
      @SourBoy 4 года назад +16

      In fact Kurt's German name could somehow link to Punkhauser's German biker gang

    • @seiler3485
      @seiler3485 4 года назад +3

      Hey, I love your videos on the Toppat leitmotif, among others. Keep up the great work!

    • @alofii6106
      @alofii6106 4 года назад +1

      How is Jacob Rose important?

    • @yukimizuki1963
      @yukimizuki1963 4 года назад

      @@alofii6106 They’re siblings because they share the same last name (?)

    • @pelsckopolesko
      @pelsckopolesko 4 года назад +2

      @@yukimizuki1963 or husband, cause people can change last names when marrying others

  • @NotMyRealName6
    @NotMyRealName6 4 года назад +43

    For an Ellie spinoff that isn't backstory, I typically picture a version of her in the Special BROvert Ops path. Henry never betrayed her and ends up in his best possible place that doesn't involve working with her, so it basically frees up possibilities for what she'd be up to.

  • @sambanjo
    @sambanjo 4 года назад +66

    Something I really like about Ellie is that they didn't try and force anything romantic between her and Henry. It subverted my expectations, as I assumed that they would end up with some sort of interaction(s) that would indicate them as becoming closer than friends. While I do really enjoy romantic subplots at times in games and media, I'm almost glad that they didn't try and force anything between them last minute. This is why I love this series so much.

    • @poppyplaytimevspibby2uk
      @poppyplaytimevspibby2uk Год назад +3

      It's a series?! And where can you watch it?

    • @gabut4982
      @gabut4982 Год назад +1

      ​@@poppyplaytimevspibby2ukI think they mean is game series

    • @poppyplaytimevspibby2uk
      @poppyplaytimevspibby2uk Год назад +1

      @@gabut4982 ok, thanks you

    • @Powder-Point
      @Powder-Point 16 дней назад

      @@GameJunkyard11 Bridal carrying someone to free them from harm is not romantic at all. He bridal carries Grigori though (does that make him carrying Grigori romantic?) I do not think that series has shown implication of mutual romantic interest from Henry and/or Ellie. There is nothing that showcases them having any romantic interest towards each other. They are referred to as 'Convict Allies' or 'Pardoned Pals' not lovers. Also her being the Toppat Queen also is not romantic as like RHM she is just second in command. They are explicitly just friends. They are friends through and through.

    • @MOREPLANE
      @MOREPLANE 15 дней назад

      Don’t hate on Henry x Grigori

  • @accgcringe
    @accgcringe 4 года назад +24

    Here's an interesting thought, in fleeing the complex, when you choose the knee in convict allies, henry could leave without ellie and flee the complex all by his self, but the fail screen still comes up suggesting that the connection could be closer than we thought

  • @samham2843
    @samham2843 4 года назад +36

    Can we just take a moment to appreciate how good Ellie's theme is.

  • @hephaistos166
    @hephaistos166 4 года назад +73

    Thank you for all of the Stickmin videos :D
    They always bright my day

    • @2leftthumbs
      @2leftthumbs  4 года назад +13

      Glad to hear that! It's my pleasure :)
      I had a lot of fun with this one!

    • @2leftthumbs
      @2leftthumbs  4 года назад +7

      Wow, you too!

  • @bluehax6
    @bluehax6 4 года назад +27

    you mentioned one time that ellie was able to use the force, and I love that little idea, that people have abilities from random pop-culture media, such as Henry being an Earthbender, and being able to metal bend. It makes me wonder what powers exist in this universe.

  • @Loskythecopydog77
    @Loskythecopydog77 4 года назад +41

    Well this video made me change my view on Ellie better then before. I never thought they were similar.

  • @EndishGal
    @EndishGal 3 года назад +14

    15:13 gotta agree on this one, their music themes are so hecking similar! the only difference is that ellie's theme is more of a ""female style" while henry's is more of a "boy's style" and i absolutely love it!

  • @tappl3
    @tappl3 4 года назад +36

    Ellie game: cutscene where henry escapes without her
    Then Ellie needs to use tools to escape

  • @NightmareSyndrom
    @NightmareSyndrom 4 года назад +61

    Now you've got me thinking. There is another character, one who can seemingly pull impossible things out of thin air one, and is capable of preforming a combination attack with Henry. The one, the only, the Right Hand Man.
    "But all his stuff is just because he's a cyborg!" I hear you protest. I will let the Right Hand Man himself answer this one:
    "You fool! Did you really think my Spirit was a result of my augmentations?"
    Yes, you could say most of the stuff he pulled when he was a cyborg were tied to his augmentations, but the same could be said for Henry when _he_ was turned into a cyborg, couldn't it?

    • @gamedifficulty_4230
      @gamedifficulty_4230 4 года назад +18

      He also manages to pull a verity of items out of nowhere when you fight him in ItA. They’re admittedly still mostly things he would likely be in possession of, but if still doesn’t explain how he suddenly gets a minigun or summons a mirror.
      You could argue that it’s Henry’s choices that influence the abilities of those around him, such as how both the fusion dance and earthbend lead to him fighting someone with similar skills, but at the same time those characters still have explanations of their abilities in their bios, which RHM doesn’t.
      It’s also interesting that while Henry fights several opponents in the style of other games, (Mr Macbeth with Undertale, Night guards Tim and Joe with Pokemon, the Advanced Wars/Fire Emblem section of FtC etc.), these characters always use the weapons that they were seen to have before hand, whereas RHM doesn’t

  • @kathana_da
    @kathana_da 4 года назад +579

    TLDR: Ellie Rose is basically a female version of Henry, period
    Edit: Huh, I did not expect to start a debate, thanks for the likes too

    • @pouncelygrin6699
      @pouncelygrin6699 4 года назад +15

      Actually,yeah, I can agree with that

    • @boyopoyo3146
      @boyopoyo3146 4 года назад +11

      Well not really because Ellie doesn’t have the powers Henry has, she talks way more often, and she can’t get out of prison on her own

    • @toastedprocastinator
      @toastedprocastinator 4 года назад +10

      @@boyopoyo3146 and thats the differences

    • @masemaster2k440
      @masemaster2k440 4 года назад +8

      @@boyopoyo3146 Toppat civil war route?

    • @ThyRandomGuy
      @ThyRandomGuy 4 года назад +36

      @@boyopoyo3146 he says that in the video that in the toppat civil war path, when Henry abandons her in the wall, she not only breaks out by herself, but also infiltrates the toppat airship without Henry’s help, suggesting that she has a similar set of skills and abilities as Henry

  • @MalikBlazeLive
    @MalikBlazeLive 4 года назад +78

    This is so cool, I've been wondering her story!

  • @daniariddle5929
    @daniariddle5929 4 года назад +39

    "There will be no more henry or Henry like games"
    **Laughs in among us**

  • @elhopper3735
    @elhopper3735 3 года назад +16

    This just makes me want a full Ellie Rose adventures game just like Henry. That would be absolutely incredible and I’d play that for hours.

  • @eddiefirstenberg1000
    @eddiefirstenberg1000 4 года назад +212

    what if Henry and Ellie are long-lost siblings
    Ellie is the smart one and Henry is the one who succeeds just by dumb luck

  • @flaggy185
    @flaggy185 3 года назад +11

    Now i get the Ellry "have the fierceness of Ellie and the luck of Henry"

  • @gizmodaemocorn6776
    @gizmodaemocorn6776 4 года назад +7

    My headxanon using this as a jumping off point, Jacob Rose (her brother in my eyes) dared Ellie to steal something from another museum to prove that museum security was terrible after Henry stole the diamond from his museum.

    • @EndishGal
      @EndishGal 3 года назад +2

      welll.... thats interesting!
      ellie after her brother dared her to do that: hold my stop sign

  • @IceFox09
    @IceFox09 4 года назад +15

    “I Don’t Think Ellie Was Part Of Any German Biker Gang.”
    -PuffballsUnited

    • @mingoliplays2365
      @mingoliplays2365 2 года назад +2

      So that Solidifies my theory of ellie possibly taking on the mafia

  • @dwdadevil
    @dwdadevil 4 года назад +46

    Let's just ignore the fact of PuffBallsUnited having a Dong as his pfp

  • @pelsckopolesko
    @pelsckopolesko 4 года назад +60

    Puffballs might be lying and secretly working on one

    • @thewarrior7411
      @thewarrior7411 4 года назад +7

      It would be nice

    • @josefdelaville4638
      @josefdelaville4638 4 года назад +23

      No, it's pretty clear he's done with it, he want to do other things than keeping on the same universe all his career and it's clear that Completing the Mission is meant to be the true end of the series. People should accept this rather than clinging on false hopes of "maybe he'll change his mind".

    • @beanlets
      @beanlets 4 года назад

      Ima guess he is tired of these characters, but maybe he could incorporate these characters into a FPS or make a DLC for among us to change among us characters into a selection of stickmin characters

    • @josefdelaville4638
      @josefdelaville4638 4 года назад +3

      @@beanlets You can pretty much already do that with all the cosmetics, I don't think it's worth it to re-do a sprite sheet with every crewmate's action with stick figures. Also the good thing about the Among Us crewmates is that their colors is clearly visible which wouldn't be the case with stick figures so it wouldn't work to replace the Among Us characters by stick figures.

  • @flaco3462
    @flaco3462 4 года назад +28

    I really do love Ellie and I'm so happy to see a detailed theory about what Ellie's past might be like and it was super enjoyable to see you point out how similar she is to Henry and how perfect of a match they are for each other
    Also a collection of Ellie doing a similar quest to Henry and having her own gang to infiltrate I'm excited for Crashing the Casino.

  • @maximumcringelevel8617
    @maximumcringelevel8617 4 года назад +19

    Here's the someone Theory
    Ellie did NOT flees the complex.
    Maybe she was released to find Henry, who escaped from complex.
    I don't know if anyone else wrote this theory.
    If there is, I haven't seen him.
    But 6:30 disproves that theory

  • @apathymanthemundane4165
    @apathymanthemundane4165 3 года назад +5

    Henry and Ellie are like the goofiest, craziest Bonnie and Clyde out there, and Charles is there just to steer them at other criminals

  • @SolomonSword
    @SolomonSword 4 года назад +36

    imagine they make a DLC called: Henry Stickmin Collection: The Ellie's Rose

  • @powerbarbanddiscontinuedch4986
    @powerbarbanddiscontinuedch4986 4 года назад +150

    Welcome to another episode of: "How Fast Can You Click On A 2 Left Thumbs Video As Soon As It Is Uploaded?"

    • @2leftthumbs
      @2leftthumbs  4 года назад +26

      What was the result!?

    • @powerbarbanddiscontinuedch4986
      @powerbarbanddiscontinuedch4986 4 года назад +22

      @@2leftthumbs less than half a second.

    • @mellcaramell
      @mellcaramell 4 года назад +10

      @@powerbarbanddiscontinuedch4986 *Pathetic*

    • @lightning7705
      @lightning7705 4 года назад +5

      @@2leftthumbs I did 0.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001

    • @demi172
      @demi172 4 года назад +4

      @@lightning7705 SAIWUQHIUFH i clicked before the video came out, in -9 seconds.

  • @Encantur
    @Encantur 4 года назад +17

    I would love to hear a remix that combines Ellie's theme and Press Start. Maybe that could be the new "Ellry faction" theme that we see a few times in completing the mission.
    Also the only backstory I wanna know is where the wall came from.

  • @humanpearson7122
    @humanpearson7122 4 года назад +20

    Wow..... now, I love Ellie even more!

  • @keliiiiie
    @keliiiiie 4 года назад +67

    As a Henry Stickmin fan, I actually have my own backstory: So, Ellie had a family, but something was torn apart with her parents, and her dad was a criminal, while her mom was just a housewife. She found out that Ellie’s dad was a criminal, she divorced him, and at this time, she were probably in her teens or mid-adults. So, Ellie found out, and then she started to have irregular opinions about him, whether or not he was good or not, then she started to go to college, then she dropped out to live with her mom after her dad moved out of the house, but after an argument with her mom she decided to be a criminal, then thats where her story is parallel to Henry’s now. Then, after the Infiltration of the Airship, the 4th episode which will be Ellie’s, is now sent to the Wall and that’s how she met up with Henry.
    This might be not an exact opinion, but I talked about her and her family and how she turned into a criminal.
    Edit: Jacob is not related to Ellie as of 1/8/20 in one of PuffBall’s live stream’s, so I’m editing the comment

  • @late3262
    @late3262 4 года назад +24

    It says a german biker gang right? Maybe thats why ellie has good skills with motorcycles.

    • @2leftthumbs
      @2leftthumbs  4 года назад +6

      Oohh man!! I'm so bummed that I didn't think of that as a possible connection!!

  • @dreamerhammerspace
    @dreamerhammerspace 4 года назад +15

    perhaps Jacob Rose is like Dave Panpa, having a minor role in almost every scenario Ellie appears in. This is pretty unlikely though.
    A more plausible theory is that there's someone out there with the last name Stickmin that isn't Henry, who appears at some point in Ellie's life and never again.

    • @thesymbiotenation.4552
      @thesymbiotenation.4552 4 года назад +4

      How abot Henry Stikman (the one people keeped confusing with our Henry)

  • @CrabHead501
    @CrabHead501 4 года назад +39

    This is one of theories that can actually be real

  • @vunshsharma1817
    @vunshsharma1817 4 года назад +26

    15:44
    There is another tune called “Press Start”
    However, it is nothing to do with the Henry stickmin collection

    • @renthewizard
      @renthewizard 4 года назад +2

      tbh press start would remind me of geometry dash subzero and henry stickmin

    • @astranotfemale4483
      @astranotfemale4483 4 года назад +3

      @@renthewizard dantdm old intro

  • @deadshot_daquiri_remastered
    @deadshot_daquiri_remastered 4 года назад +7

    Possible theory based on pure speculation: Ellie is the doppelganger of henry in another dimension

  • @Mega_idk
    @Mega_idk 4 года назад +5

    Her synchronicity with Henry is really what opens up the character to me. I have never seen this level of sync in my entire life, considering that they've only met for 2 games, Henry's caveat which is not speaking much, and yet they pull off fusions, combos, and other sh¡t. Some people keep saying that she's just female henry but I digress: She is her own character that simply works so well with Henry.

  • @trash-lol
    @trash-lol 4 года назад +133

    “So we got Jacob Rose and....
    _hmmm...”_

    • @MikeZeOfficialM8
      @MikeZeOfficialM8 4 года назад +1

      Ellie and Jacob are SIBLINGS

    • @trash-lol
      @trash-lol 4 года назад

      @@MikeZeOfficialM8 did i say they weren’t?

    • @potterheadproductions5526
      @potterheadproductions5526 4 года назад

      That's kinda strange indeed :) Also, I don't want to be rude or something, but if you want more Henry Stickmin content, I know a cool channel. The channel is called "Brothers Theory Productions" and they make theories about various games. They already did 5 theories about Henry Stcikmin on the channel (It's their most popular topic). Feel free to check the channel out and their theories ;)

  • @Spooki.spooki
    @Spooki.spooki 4 года назад +41

    I personally think that Jacob would function as Ellie's "charles"

    • @thesymbiotenation.4552
      @thesymbiotenation.4552 4 года назад +20

      Jacob: (Driving a tank straight to Ellie) HERE I COME TO SAFE THE DAY!

    • @nindyfarrel1322
      @nindyfarrel1322 4 года назад +9

      @@thesymbiotenation.4552 The most considerable idea

    • @xspranp7649
      @xspranp7649 4 года назад +3

      Doubt it.

    • @Spooki.spooki
      @Spooki.spooki 4 года назад +9

      Okay so let me explain further. While Jacob is not a perfect copy of Charles, he is the one who initially turned Ellie into the Government and accompanied her on her mission to deal with the German Punk Gang.

  • @Camreeyan
    @Camreeyan 4 года назад +10

    6:13 hold up, look at that bio. The warden of the wall says to Henry there has not been an incident at the wall in fifty years... so how did that happen?

    • @shabang008
      @shabang008 Год назад

      The only path we see him is triple threat, which follows convict allies, meaning he escapee during the same outbreak that Henry and ellie escaped on, it's literally mentioned in the end of the bio

  • @scorchfire4816
    @scorchfire4816 4 года назад +3

    By my guess for this Jacob Rose. He would Ellie's brother. Like Ellie is the black sheep [a criminal girl that relies only on herself than her own family and goes on her criminal spree] and Jacob is the nice cheering guy [cares for his family deeply, respects the laws and justice with pretty much how he got the work as a security guard]. I think Jacob doesn't talk about Eliie because they might consider him as an accomplice. But he still thinks of his sister, his OLD sister he used to love.

  • @lastlombaxx
    @lastlombaxx 4 года назад +8

    Actually jacob rose has a lot of connections he says: "And they just streaight up arrested *her*" I think its ellie who was arrested

  • @heyheyitsjae2475
    @heyheyitsjae2475 4 года назад +3

    A small detail I really like is that in Infiltrating the Airship Henry can metalbend and in Fleeing the Complex he can earthbend, and in a similar fashion Ellie uses the force in both Fleeing the Complex and Completing the Mission

  • @spencer6736
    @spencer6736 4 года назад +5

    I agree with the whole Ellie has the same life path as Henry. I think while Henry has insane luck, Ellie then has insane fierceness. Parallel lives but differing abilities.

  • @yuthesalmonshaman6655
    @yuthesalmonshaman6655 4 года назад +6

    I'd like to imagine, that while Henry was stealing the diamond, and was in the same area as Jacob Rose, Ellie was stealing her own thing, while in the same area as a female with the last name Stickmin, just to have things match in their lives even more.

  • @bad_hat
    @bad_hat 4 года назад +2

    I liked your theory because it makes a little sense with everything if how ellie was made to be a partner with henry? she always thinks like henry but is not identical and it makes sense if as they already think the same as diversion henry doesn't even tell ellie the plan but they both already knew the plan themselves not living they were always living together but without know each other since the bank robbery

  • @michaellogozzo2073
    @michaellogozzo2073 4 года назад +2

    13:45 actually I think the reason Henry’s plan worked is because they both understand Henry the best where as Henry understands both of them and vice versa but Charles and Ellie are friends, can work well together, but in the end work nowhere near as well as they do with Henry, they trust him so they would follow his plan best

  • @Teko10B
    @Teko10B 4 года назад +73

    Theory: Ellie needed a partner so she purposely let herself get caught by the wall in order to find a partner

  • @obscraft5375
    @obscraft5375 4 года назад +42

    Theory: How did Wilheim survive the bone melt?

  • @kentity5272
    @kentity5272 4 года назад +7

    Ellie’s story I.E crashing the casino,leaving the clink,swiping the emerald and hitting the hideout

  • @PikaSmasha
    @PikaSmasha 3 месяца назад +2

    I feel like Jacob's role in Ellie's story is the same as the guy he was talking to from Henry's. Once again it can be considered a 'where 2 paths meet' situation so maybe it applies to more than just Henry and Ellie.

  • @jonbond1096
    @jonbond1096 4 года назад +6

    So Ellie is perfect for Henry, it just Henry has to know or believe.

  • @kidzbonkerz7571
    @kidzbonkerz7571 4 года назад +54

    "In the Valiant Hero path, Charles..."
    SHUT. SHUT IT. I SAID SHUT IT.

    • @honeymoonavenue444
      @honeymoonavenue444 4 года назад +5

      Nah i don’t cry anymore I’ve seen it way too many times that it’s just- you get used to it you know?

    • @kidzbonkerz7571
      @kidzbonkerz7571 4 года назад +3

      @@honeymoonavenue444 Yeah.

    • @kidzbonkerz7571
      @kidzbonkerz7571 4 года назад

      @EnderJesse WOAWOAWOA
      spoilers but xd

    • @UrielDripper
      @UrielDripper 4 года назад +1

      *It's alright, ur not the one who got sick of it*

  • @samuelekundayo77
    @samuelekundayo77 4 года назад +9

    Redheaded outlaw played in the background

  • @Creeper43yt
    @Creeper43yt 4 года назад +3

    I was actually thinking about making a fangame where Henry goes back to the museum of Stealing The Diamond to get everything that remained

  • @daitoray9876
    @daitoray9876 2 года назад +1

    Ellie is actually the opposite of Charles in all ways. Where as Charles is the one who shows Henry the true side of natural good, Ellie takes Henry on the life of crime if Charles is not involved. Henry is more balanced of the two as while Henry does commit crimes, he also does some of his actions are for other people. Sure he starts off as a thief but it is out of necessity. Also he doesn't intentionally kill people as seen when he doesn't kill any of the cops that kept him in prison when he had the chance.
    Other examples of Henry having good intentions when by himself is when he turned the rocket he stole into a space resort and allowed the Toppats on board to be reformed instead of arrested for their crimes and when he stole the Emerald, he also helped take down the Toppats in space. He also stole the Toppats' money supply or for himself but at the same time, his actions helped delay the Toppats from completing their goal and allowed the government to finish their final preparations.
    This indicates that Henry may be selfish at times, but his actions do have some greater good. Ellie on the other hand is the opposite. Her actions are mainly for herself and she doesn't question whether something is wrong or right and will only try to help herself. While she did save Henry, she only did that because she knew that someone like him could help her out. In addition, she also suggests joining the Toppat clan and convinces Henry to follow suit when they escaped the wall after learning that Henry has no real allegiance. Lastly, when Henry and Ellie stole the Toppats' money supply, Ellie chose to do it because she was running out of money and looped Henry into helping her when she could have chosen to do other things for money.

  • @ILikeB
    @ILikeB 3 года назад +2

    Hey, maybe Ellie’s “contacts” are the German biker gang because she either Took down or became the Toppat(leader)

  • @mr.preston1632
    @mr.preston1632 3 года назад +3

    I imagine Henry having the exact same lines as Ellie if Ellie was the protagonist, just with a different tone and voice

  • @darklink7850
    @darklink7850 4 года назад +6

    Apparently, In Puffballs's twitch stream, Jacob is not related to Ellie at all. Just coincidence that they share the same last name. XS

  • @GalacticDragonfruit
    @GalacticDragonfruit 4 года назад +9

    I kind of feel like designing a fan game based on this

    • @GalacticDragonfruit
      @GalacticDragonfruit 4 года назад +2

      But I am terrible at it

    • @renthewizard
      @renthewizard 4 года назад +2

      I wanted that too, but I don't even know how to program a game.

  • @ToadToon
    @ToadToon 3 месяца назад +1

    It also worth noting that when you load up the save when you going to rob the emrald, you landed on the plank and got shot by Ellie meaning that somehow, Ellie has to do something with the emrald at some point.

  • @halfdecentstrange
    @halfdecentstrange 3 года назад +2

    my Ellie's Story headcanon:
    I'll call her equavelent to BTB a small heist or something, a little crime that gets her put in a small prison.
    She escapes the prison like Henry does.
    Then comes Attacking the Museum. Ellie is told by her cousin Jacob Rose to attack an enemy museum, with the Emerald in it. Basically she steals the Emerald and bankrupts the museum.
    Let's assume that Ellie lives in Germany. The German biker gang mentioned in the video steals Ellie's emerald. Ellie then has to either infiltrate or join them to get her emerald back.
    Before The Wall
    The bikers are found out by the government and they either rat out Ellie or betray her. Because of this, only one gang member is captured because of their help. Ellie and the gang member are transferred to The Wall (in whatever country Henry lives in) and Ellie is marked as highly dangerous and lucky so she is put in a cell with Henry.

  • @pulim-v
    @pulim-v 4 года назад +11

    Explaining the Backstory

    • @cadefilms4072
      @cadefilms4072 4 года назад

      Yes because that’s what’s in the vidoesssxnsms jjx

  • @kirbyfazendoummoonwalk9214
    @kirbyfazendoummoonwalk9214 4 года назад +7

    My Headcannon for Ellie Rose is that she was a Criminal who did Something Something really bad and ended up in the Wall.

  • @honeymoonavenue444
    @honeymoonavenue444 4 года назад +6

    I don’t know, I’m trying to have a theory about what is Jacob Rose’s significance. Maybe, meanwhile Ellie stole the emerald, Henry stole the diamond and Jacob knew that his sister (or his cousin) was a thief, and was on the museum, waiting for her so he could stop her, but he didn’t knew what she was going to steal. He assumed she’ll steal the diamond but she didn’t. Henry did. (I’ll add more to this theory soon)

    • @renthewizard
      @renthewizard 4 года назад +1

      Would like to know more about it!

    • @maronix64
      @maronix64 4 года назад

      Puff said in a stream that Jacob and ellie aren't related

  • @arburo
    @arburo 4 года назад +1

    I still remember playing the first flash game of puffballs of "blowing up bank" where i first time saw the options and had a lot of fun. Never in a million years i thought there will be a full on dedicated series and an actual last game that wraps up everything that has led up to that point.
    Also, i still remember replaying "fleeing the complex" and every single other game puffballs had, like a madman. Until i got bored and was busy with life and forgot all about them.
    But hey, they released the game and slapped me in the face with nostalgia and here i am after a full "completing the mission" henry stickmin collection game, and i am proud they actually stuck with it and even improved it.

  • @ronik7102
    @ronik7102 3 года назад +1

    he never noticed how much attacking the tower has grown from just a simple fan game...

  • @alofii6106
    @alofii6106 4 года назад +70

    Enough about Ellie’s backstory
    *We need Charles’s backstory*

    • @TheRealSuperKirby
      @TheRealSuperKirby 4 года назад +6

      I need an explanation for scene were the toppats get abducted with a tractor beam

    • @lemm-1
      @lemm-1 4 года назад

      Agree

    • @humanpearson7122
      @humanpearson7122 4 года назад +1

      @@TheRealSuperKirby where is that scene from?

    • @HKid156
      @HKid156 4 года назад +3

      he's just a dumbass with a helicopter

    • @kirbycreep
      @kirbycreep 4 года назад

      @@humanpearson7122 valiant hero intro

  • @III-e6q
    @III-e6q 4 года назад +13

    BUT HEY THATS JUST A THEORY A GAME THEORY

  • @animationshows6
    @animationshows6 4 года назад +17

    Henry Breaks into Bank
    1 hour later
    Ellie breaks into bank
    1 hour later Henry escapes jail
    1 minute later Ellie escapes jail
    1 year later
    Henry Steals Diamond 💎
    (The museum got new diamond)
    Ellie steals diamond 💎
    1 year later
    Henry Infiltrates a airship
    1 moment later
    Ellie does the same thing
    Both ending up in Complex
    Henry and Ellie work together to escape
    (What’s next?)

  • @thenthefuture
    @thenthefuture 4 года назад +2

    Speaking of the force, maybe we could have a Jedi battle between Henry and Ellie.

  • @prorobot64player
    @prorobot64player 4 года назад +1

    henry: i will go without ell-
    henry: *becomes tophat*
    ellie: I REMEBERED THAT

  • @squeakylenny
    @squeakylenny 4 года назад +3

    This makes SO much sense! Ellie had to fight the Punks instead of the Toppats and went after the Emerald!

  • @CoolDude-qb1lr
    @CoolDude-qb1lr 4 года назад +4

    i search up crashing the casino
    search results: A TEEN CRASHED INTO A CASINO AND DIED

  • @thedebbiewinner
    @thedebbiewinner 4 года назад +34

    I'm making a mod like this, but the emerald is the Ruby. And the scooter is red or pink. Idk yet. Edit: thanks for the likes i never get likes :(

  • @GraySlicerAnimations
    @GraySlicerAnimations 3 года назад +1

    Rest in peace to Crashing the Casino. However we're still getting Attacking the Tower, so at least it isn't a total loss.

    • @ofreal
      @ofreal 3 года назад

      And it's looking good