Japan is Changing, and it's SCARY.
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- Japan's criminal system is changing... but is this a good thing?
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I can only think of the Junko Furuta case because they were "minors" at the time and now are free walking around like nothing happened... I hope you rest in peace J.F. ❤️
the "few" that actually got punished basically got a slap on the wrist
And the Kobe Child Murders. Not only was the murderer eventually released, but he even wrote a book and posted creepy images on the internet that all showed he was never 'rehabilitated!'
@@lucinae8512 I am not aware of this case. But in general a lot of s**** around the world
Really? how do you know it's one of them and not a fake?@@divyanshkaushal1546
It's wild too one of the killers has a twt acct openly boasting abt rape and politics...
love the logic of the guy: "she didnt want to date me because she though i was a creep, not worth giving a chance, and then i decided to prove she was absolutely right to do so!"
Let's be real. Not even he thinks it's a legitimate reason. In cases like this it's normally someone who isn't mentally all there and just gives whatever answer when asked "why did you do it?". He's probably been on the edge of doing some crazy shit like that for ages and he just named the things that upset him most recently. Consider he mentioned his relationship with his parents was one of the issues so why didn't he go after his own parents? There is no real logic. He's wanted to lash out for ages. I imagine if somebody else upset him after the girl rejected him he'd have gone after them instead
No one should be that desperate for some poonani. No, the guy clearly had issues from beforehand which the poor girl’s rejection only really exacerbated. Her parents paid the price.
I bet he was a "nice Guy"
@@MatthewBJ they dont even do it to try and win them over, they do it completely out of spite as revenge. which is worse, since it means they are technically functional human being, that are just filled with hatred instead of being just mentaly unstable.
@@MatthewBJ good luck giving any advice to a narcissist since not only will they not listen and reject you, they gaslight you into thinking that you are the one who is wrong 😂
In the UK, a minor can be tried as an adult when murder (but not manslaughter) is involved.
What's the difference
@@malachiblood13Murder is intentional, manslaughter is accidental.
@@malachiblood13the amount of people? Maybe lol
@@hawkeye4324murder - there was intention to kill, manslaughter - no intention to kill, but victim died.
@@matthewuchiha8501nah that's serial vs not
I think even as a minor, especially in the early to late teens range, there is a level of understanding on what's right and wrong, if a minor was able to plan, and or commit a crime as heinous as murder or attempted murder, they should absolutely be trialed as an adult, serious consequences for crimes should not be something exclusive to adults.
well you're right, doesnt matter if youre kid or not but crime shouldn't be tolerated
The problem isn't whether not they should be punished, but more so the question of how long is too long to keep a minor in prison. Cause there are many cases where being tried as an adult for certain crimes, the minimum length for the sentence can in some places quite long. And in my opinion, there are very few crimes that actually warrant someone who's 17 to spend all of their 20's in prison
@@jadendobson9614 also the question of how much prison should even focus on punishment. Criminals are broken individuals, in countries where they focus on rehabilitation the most, the rate of crime after prison is lower than anywhere else
@@pyrylehtonen-caponigro3198 That's bs, and you know it. Not all criminals are "broken individuals", many (especially serial killers) are just horrible human beings or psychopaths who have zero remorse and will absolutely commit crimes again the second they're out no matter the rehabilitation. It's easy to have sympathy for a murderer, but it's different when the one they murdered is your family or friend...
@@Osama-KIN_TMZ01 ask yourself the question of how people develop into psychopaths.
Note “minor” in this case is a 19 year old. Like it’s not some elementary kid like some people seem to be under the impression
This is ridiculous no where is 19 a minor.. Last time I was in jail in Texas I was in there with 17 year olds tried as adults
@@aaronrodgers9202 this ^^
@@aaronrodgers9202This case is in Japan. 🤦♂️
19 year olds are considered minors there.
@@Clippidyclappidy oh right so since he turns 20 in a matter of a few months and becomes a adult on paper means he totally would have grown up and not done what he did... Because being a minor at 19 and an adult at 20 can change the fact your a psychopath right
@@Clippidyclappidy Y'know that there are 35 year olds that essentially behave like minors. lol.
This is something id say to child criminals “I don’t care that you were 14 years old when you murdered a homeless man with a gaggle of other girls all of you are responsible and should be punished”
I’m referring to a case from eastern Canada a year or two ago.
It was really disturbing to read they just ganged up on him terrible terrible things those kids did.
I didn't know about that case and looked it up.
That is really messed up.
There was a 2023 Los Vegas incident where a gang of minors beat a teen to death over a stolen ear buds. The deceased teen was not involve in fight but intervene because he saw his friend was getting gang up and beaten. Only 12 members of this violent mob were caught, but there are still more perpetrators on the loose. I haven't check on any updates since mainstream news is usually quite on these incidents.
A crime is a crime regardless of age especially when its so heinous.
idk its a touchy subject. If we take the Nevada tan case, we can atleast see that these children can truly grow up to reform themselves. Although not all cases can have suvh a good outcome
There was a kdrama based on a judge who deals with juvenile criminals. Most of them think since they're underage they'll get less punishments. But the judge she's brutal and the best. I'm too sensitive so i didn't actually watch it but the story is good
I can't find the story anymore, but there was a case that happened within the last few years where high school girls (yes, it was girls) gang r*ped and tortured a girl from Peru and the girl's mother called the Peruvian embassy only to have the Japanese police let these girls go scot-free and the Peruvian girl ended up going back to Peru with a lifetime of trauma. I would like to see those girls who tortured that poor girl get justice from this change in the law.
Im gonna be honest with you. It doesn't surprise me when females r*pe. Especially when there are studies labeled "The Understudied Female Sexual Predator" showing how much they actually do those crimes. Especially since it was shown that apparently, women are more likely to be sexual predators than men according to how many people came out for the study claiming that a woman assaulted them. I would link them but sadly it RUclips will automatically delete the comment. One of those studies youll have to pay for to read. I think someone on reddit basically redistributed the study on there. This isn't me trying to paint all women as predators (like many do with us men), but spreading awareness about the topic to get people to realize how much things like that happen. At least here in America where Im at.
Source?
@@SomeGuy-rm7crliterally says can't find the story anymore
I looked it up, was legit. Basically racism, they didnt want a peruvian girl in music class so they absued her then again in drawing class.
Source?
I am glad Japan is daring to hold minors accountable for their actions, in my country you can get away with literally everything if you are but a month away from turning 18, it is ridiculous.
Where that lol where I'm from u can get charged as an adult as long it was violent or resulted in a death or major injury or was a sex crime
yep, in my country it is the same, youngsters can do everything if they are under 18 and have not charges, that's ridiculous.
19 isn't a "minor that wouldn't know better" imo lol. But, imo, as an American, as much as some might assume I support the death penalty, I NEVER DO! Why? There's always the chance of doubt, but the bigger issue is "I want a single government to have a legal power to kill its own citizen because it will abuse it at some point." Don't give a government power it doesn't deserve.
Still, Japan needs to do a better job holding "minors" accountable better. Like that horrific case in the 80s was it? Joey talked about it before. But if I mention it RUclips woulda auto-mod my comment cause RUclips is crap.
@@rayquazahere8529"criminal hire minors" so the adult criminal should still be charged more harshly than the minor who got manipulated by an adult.
@@traplover6357 I believe inducing a minor to commit a crime is its own crime, corruption of a minor or something
I fully agree with this person being tried as an adult. The only thing that worries me is that Japan is setting a very bad precedent by allowing a change in the penal code to be retroactive.
These things were already legally considered heinous crimes when they were committed,so it's not like they're criminalizing it after the fact.
The retroactive rule is pretty universal. It should only benefit the convicted. It's basic international law. That shocked me. maybe this rule can be appealed on international courts.
Also there has been cases of child criminals that later on lived normal lives. Horrible crimes really. There are studies of these rare cases and many recover. The developing brain is a thing.
But, I mean, don't hurt people, guys. At any age.
@@elscullens Yes, they’re called ex post facto laws and pretty much every rights organization is against them. Also I just googled it and Japan’s constitution explicitly prohibits them, so this could turn into a legal mess.
But still, retroactive application of laws are frowned upon so heavily due to the association they have with dictatorships (especially those of the fascist inclination) so even if you can argue about the morality of the sentence it’s still a bad precedent, especially considering Japan’s past.
No, actually almost never. The recent laws in my democratic country always affect the whole tax year (yeah you can owe tax that wasn't in place beforehand) and do not affect active cases. In this case also, the guy wasn't convicted yet. Retroactively means for example, you will not go to jail 2035 when you're only allowed to buy electric vehicles because you bought a gasoline engine in 2012...
death penalty tho? That’s Saudi Arabia shit
I agree that cases regarding sexual crimes, stalking, CP and such are basically not really punished at all, Japan very much likes to quickly dismiss and get rid of those. I will say one thing that shocked me is how teachers are punished when breaking certain rules, in work every 6 weeks-ish we get a piece of paper outlining teachers in our prefecture who have broken the law (usually regarding students) and how they were punished. Lets say, things that would get you in jail and on a register in western countries, here usually means a pay cut of 1/10th for a few months and then MOVED TO ANOTHER SCHOOL!!
That's crazy
bro they snitch on their own failings as a govt but don't fix them wtf
So like the Catholic Priests use to be handled in the US. shakes head.
@@XVa-uj8m and still does
WHAT??!!!!!
There's no crime, because they don’t do anything. My friend was visiting Japan recently and had $3000 worth of items stolen from her Airbnb, and the police didn’t do a single thing to help her when they showed up. Instead of giving her a stolen items form they gave her a loss items form because they didn’t believe that she was robbed.
Joey, thank you for being 100% real about Japan.
Japan and korea are very similar in the context of crime it's either 0 or 100...
I'm glad, honestly. Every country should update their criminal system and hold minors accountable for their actions. No "they were coarsed" or "too young to understand" excuses. A lot of the time, they absolutely know what they're doing. They're not 4, they're old enough to know. And some are even smart enough to know they can get away with a lot of stuff just because they're a minor. Especially teenagers, they absolutely exploit laws and shift the blame onto adults they hate. So yeah, a step in the right direction if you ask me.
I've never agreed with the whole "upbringing" or "unfortunate background" argument which is heavily being used in cities like New Yok and Chicago. They rely on catch-and-release if there were no injuries, and the value of theft was under 1000 USD. These people know what's right and wrong. They're just being enabled to continue being criminals.
I would say that minors definitely should be held accountable as it's meant for the victim and the community's safety. Not to mention that it is also part of learning to know the consequences of their actions.
Though, we can't really just look at the standpoint where minors/teenagers are "smart enough" to know, same goes with seeing upbringing and poor background as some sort of an excuse. They are a "valid", it is a real thing and not just any lousy excuse. I'm saying this in a way that I want to bring the awareness to the parents that it is their responsibility to ensure that their child will grow as a functioning individual and that any of the Dark Triad Personality (Narcissism, Psychopathy and Machiavellianism) isn't something anyone are born with but it was more of a developmental disorder.
There's already been studies about how even someone who have a psychopathic direct relative only adds a risk factor, but it doesn't inherently make them a psychopath unless something in the environment caused their psychopathic traits to emerge. So what I'm saying is that parents of juvenile criminals should also be held responsible as well as it is their responsibility to guide their child. Who knows if their parents are actually manipulating them to do the crime or they were the subtle cause of it? Who knows if they also have more victims like their siblings, relatives or people surrounding them?
To put it in another scenario, if a minor have stolen that 1000usd, ideally the minor should be accountable and with further investigation if they were manipulated or threatened by their guardian, or if it is organized by a syndicate. By then, the "mastermind, the one who caused their behavior" should be held accountable too since we wouldn't know if that minor is the only one who's subjected to do crime or it's something in a bigger scale. Punishing the mastermind will prevent creating more criminals and victims.
The thing is the brain isn't hardwired until in their 20's. I am NOT saying they should by default be forgiven merely that we need more and better rehabilitation programs to step in, throwing massive amounts of money at the problem if need be. Why? Simply because it will cost us all so much more later if we don't.
@@XVa-uj8m Hardwired or not hardwired, children know murder, or crimes in general, are wrong. Your brain isn't fully developed until you're 25ish, but that's not "hardwired". At 18 or 19 you can't use underdeveloped brain as an excuse unless you're claiming mental issues. They found him competent to stand trial, so obviously that wasn't the issue. If you don't know right from wrong before you're 10, you either have mental issues, or extremely evil parents. Just watching TV and interacting with other people should teach you right from wrong.
Plenty of kids under 12 have been treated as adults despite not being old enough to understand.
As much as I'm glad we don't have capital punishment in the UK there are some twisted mofos who get off with super light sentences.
I fucking hate our justice system in general.
In various ways it's failed everyone, the victims/survivors and the perpetrators.
Punitive justice has too many flaws to be reliable, restorative justice is far more healthy for a productive and healthy society.
@@icravedeath.1200 Facts, recidivism rates are the only part of a punishment that matters
That doesn't make sense, just because you don't have the death penalty doesn't mean you stop letting killers out in a decade or less. I guess that's why its important to get rid of death penalties, because we cant trust governments to deliver fair and adequate justice.
The criminal justice system is so inherently flawed, as is the legal system in general. And whilst I can definitely understand the family of a victim wanting death for the person who did it, society has to be better than that. Whilst it seems in the case Joey was talking about, the guy is definitely guilty, it’s not exactly common for perpetrators to walk in and say “hey, I did that, fuck you, kill me, bitcheeesss”. And when you couple ambiguity and a policing system that is often racist, or classist or just politically motivated or encouraged to meet quotas, the death penalty starts becoming an incredibly cruel thing. In a perfectly rational world, sure, maybe it might make sense on occasion, but you only need to look up the number of people slated for the death penalty who then turned out to be innocent to see why it’s a bad idea, and that’s not mentioning how a more corrupt government could use it to silence political opposition or people holding them to account.
I’m not saying that’s happening in Japan, by the way, but if the death penalty exists as an option, then it’s misuse is always a possibility, where it being banned outright removes that option. Not that it stops the police summarily executing people in the streets, but that’s its own kettle of bullshit.
its why UK a shit hole and Japan isnt death penalty is needed prisoners rather go to jail than get the death sentence for a reason. with the UK legal system hitler would be sleeping on goverment tax dollars in a nice bed.
Stabbed a middle-aged couple to death and burnt down the house? Shit, that's just what they call Thursday evening in Chicago
LOL! I was just thinking this.
*average florida activities
Activities of the BLA-kind.
@@IbnRushd-mv3fp In Florida the middle aged couple would have lit up the guy with superior firepower and then say something like "never bring a knife to a gunfight" or some other cold ass line. lol
@@DaveSmith-cp5kj When my dad and I lived in Miami Beach, he saw a Cuban guy slice a Puerto Rican guy right across the belly with a big ass knife and his guts started falling out. The crazy part is he lived. Still saw him around for the next year.
Japan really needs a better mental health program
So does the US.
Agreed to both. These kinds of crimes says to me it's a cultural problem
Hiw can it be cultural when it happens everywhere, get your head out your ass @@Justcetriyaart
@@Justcetriyaart However, people are slow to change their culture let alone themselves.
I read one autobiography manga of a depressed girl in an emotionally neglective home, where she had gotten herself a room in a mental health place, but all they did was leave her alone in the room, even when she hurt herself for any sort of actual help, only to met with "don't do that 😢". She eventually returned to her parents' place, despite her wishes for independence.
The Death Penalty has proven to NOT work on such people. The contemporary idea on the Death Penalty is to act as a Deterrent. People who are not afraid to die are not deterred by it. For them, death would actually be a "release".
I can understand the desire to "remove" a dangerous individual, but that can be done with a life sentence.
Also, there is a relative high "error rate"... and you can't bring back falsely convicted people who were already executed. Prosecutors in Japan are absolutely viscious, once they are convinced that you're guilty, they do everything, incuding fabricating evidence and suppressing or destroying exculpatory evidence, to get you in prison. And even if they're caught (i.e. the Hamada case), they will still try to steam roll you.
I’m going to be studying in Tokyo as a law student later this year. I find these videos incredibly interesting and important! Thank you for making them!
I'm usually against death row sentences/laws, because that's a thing that people in power can abuse and it's one thing to get unjustly sentenced to "life in prison" and later on, after 5, 10, 20y, something new comes to light to prove that innocence (there are many examples of that), but if someone gets unjustly sentenced to death, that's it! and later on, ups we killed someone for nothing just because someone wanted this case to go through quicker (there are plenty of examples of that also).
However, going by the info from this video, Japan seems more cautious about this type of thing, and have pretty strict underline rules to what would constitute a death penalty, so in this case I think it is just.
More importantly, I think, here he just straight up admitted he did it and the girls are here to confirm that he did it. A double murder and setting a house on fire and then he showed no remorse.
Pretty hard to argue against capital punishment in a situation like this IMO.
@@captcha42 Yeah this is a pretty clear case, I ment more for the unclear cases where the japanese will be more careful about who and if they give this sentences.
yeah, but this is japan, this is guilty until proven innocent
Death penalty isn't necessarily more harsh than life in prison. In some cases, the criminal is looking for death as an escape, and it seems that's why this guy turned himself in. Not unusual in a country where suicide is fairly common.
I assume Japan as a whole wants to preserve a society stable enough to keep people alive, productive and healthy. Murder is antagonistic to that, and if there really is no chance of getting this guy to make up for what he's done, the death penalty doesn't seem unreasonable. Life in prison doesn't guarantee anything except a draw on tax dollars and anxiety amongst the people who survived the aftermath.
実はアメリカの方が日本より自殺率高いんですよ
no let him meet the creator
@@chocolategirl5725 a lifetime of basic care, food, etc. which costs the taxpayer an unknown cost; or about $5 at a local ACE Hardware.
He clearly doesn't know what that is like. In his last moments, I assume the fear is gonna make him go crazy.
Tax payers shouldn't have to pay to keep trash alive.
18 and 19 aren't minors tbh but it's good that they're holding them accountable
They are in Japan. The legal adult age is 20
@@Hayri2011Yeah a "minor" is a completely arbitrary age that a country decides on. It honestly doesn't mean a whole lot. The idea that a 17 year old committing a crazy crime shouldn't be judged but a a few months later they turn 18 and suddenly theyre responsible for their actions is just dumb.
Everybody knows murder is wrong whether you're 21, 18, 16 or even 12.
@@jadowarcadia6227 or maybe even 10, why not 8 but maybe even 6? the line has to be drawn somewhere lol
While I do think the penalty fits the crime the thing which bothers me about this is that (at least in my understanding) this law was applied to a case that happened before the law was changed.
If I understood everything right the crime happened in 2021 and the law was changed in 2022.
The scary thing about that is it seemingly gives those with influence to change the laws the option to change laws to their benefit after a crime / action was committed in order to "adjust" the punishment or even make it criminal at all.
I believe this was used in some dictatorships against political oppositions, however I cannot name any examples for that. But I do believe hearing about it in history class about the NS Regime.
However this is only based on this singular fact which I might've misunderstood.
I addition I'm not very familiar with court systems at all, let alone that of Japan, so I might be missing something here.
Still if it's like I understood that is a scary thought.
I think the finding that he was competent to stand trial came down after the law was passed, so that could be why they applied the law to him.
This was already a capital crime when he committed it.
@@ffwast That's not the discussion. It's about being tried as an adult or not.
@JoeyTheAnimeMan I am confused, you said at minute 4:38 "two very very unnecessary murder, as if a necessary murder is a thing that exists", yet you stated the fact that it is valid that they do the death punishment on the murderous person.
makes me think, "What".
Anyways bad person gets punishment in the end.
Now to the question, was it a necessary murder to punish a murderer with murder to the criminal get murdered? or would being sentenced to live in prison be more adequate?
I'm rambling, it was just an interesting phrase you've said.
In the US, this wouldn't be allowed because of "ex post facto." You can't try someone using a law (or revision to a law) that did not exist at the time the crime took place.
At 7:35 is revealed that sentence is based on a precedent case and guidelines connected to that case so I believe it is legally justifyed descision.
Another great video from Joey "The Man of the People"! I'm sure that news like this would've never shown up on my feed otherwise.
This case is so upsetting to hear. Usually, you only hear about good things when it comes to countries like Japan because people tend to travel there for the experience and the advertised life. But in reality, every country has their downsides, and things like this just is so frightening to hear. I wrote an essay last year putting my stance on minors being eligible for death penalty because of things like these, cases like Junko Furuta… However, subjects like these are people sensitive and controversial, so it’ll take a lot for things to change in the right way, whether it be a complete flip or finding other ways to give punishment to those who deserve it
It is so nice that they have 250% of them GDP as debt, so japan is ruled by yakuza and outsiders.
See, I said a nice thing about japan to not feel bad anymore.
Crime rate only counts prosecuted crimes. If someone is robbed and doesn’t report it or it doesn’t get filed then it doesn’t count.
Robbed him? Nah he was just gifting me his money and valuables
Yeah, I have to wonder how real the low crime rate is for Japan, however, most crimes are committed by young people so if most of the population is old then not only are most of them unlikely to commit any crimes of passion there are also enough mature adults around to keep the few youngsters from going to off the rails most of the time.
I mean, anywhere in the world should be about the same, it kinda depends on how much faith the people put in the police when it comes to robbery and similar small crimes. In my country there are a lot of unreported cases because most people don't expect police to ever catch the culprit and they don't want to go through the hassle if in the end they're not gonna get their justice.
I don't think Japan's crime rate is as low as everyone thinks, but it shouldn't change the fact that it is among the lowests. To be fair tho, some things that other countries treat as criminal offences, don't have the same weight in Japan, so statistic might be skewed by that. If sexual harassment and the likes were handled more seriously who knows how much the numbers would change honestly.
@@akirayuki6275 Sexual crimes are often hard to prove. Japan does it right. Too many people have had their lives ruined even if they are innocent.
Ferakonomics covered this. Japan is legit a safe country with law abiding citizens, but the justice system is also guilty of padding their statistics so that it looks like they have a high success rate for prosecution.
In the US, the District Attorney for the applicable jurisdiction can choose to prosecute a minor as an adult based upon numerous criteria, including the severity of the crime and the age of the minor at the time of the crime. For example, a 13-year-old who vandalizes a business would most likely be tried as a minor, but someone who is only a few weeks from their 18th birthday might be tried as an adult.
my heart goes out to the two sisters ❤
Coomer detected!
I hope they are changing for the better =)
Maybe I’m recalling incorrectly but there was a crime back when law enforcement was being established in place of the samurai here in Japan. There was a thief who finally was caught. Instead of being thrown in jail or worse he was given a job. Perhaps this was one of the roots that defined how some punishments in Japan should be given. The idea was for rehabilitation and to understand that perhaps this man did so purely out of hunger and poverty. Though this is me just speaking of Japan’s punishment reasons generally, not relating it to this fella. Yikes 😬
Commiting double murder for being rejected. Proves the murderer was extremely unstable. That is not a normal recation for rejection.
Agreed. That marks someone as in need of therapy, not punishment.
@@rabenfedersonnenhutone shouldn't supercede the other, punishment and therapy should go hand in hand not be applied separately, theres a reason the legal system is also a justice system
@@rabenfedersonnenhut Those aren't mutually exclusive.
@@rabenfedersonnenhut The guy did it with sane mind. Get your head out of your ass.
Nah bro
This person should be trialed and sentenced as an adult, but I think death penalty isn't alright if you have to apply it in general.
Death penalty makes it much more expensive to sentence someone because you have to be absolutely sure of the conviction - much more than someone getting prison time.
Despite the more rigorous procedures, there are still cases when the wrong person gets sentence - this means someone innocent is going to get killed for a crime they never committed. Not saying that this person is innocent, but generally speaking, not everyone that gets convicted is actually guilty.
We had an intruder in our house two years ago. It happened at 3AM in the morning and it still haunts me to this day. Nobody got hurt physically, but psychologically my entire family was hurt. Those scars remain. And in this case even more so. Those girls got a life sentence and were innocent. That dude is guilty and deserves worse than a life sentence.
Speaking Karma, do people who support the death penalty deserve karmic retribution if an innocent person is sent to death as has happened many times in the US?
I think they hide the name to protect the person relatives not the person who did the crime i have heard about times where the relatives is the ones who suffer because of the persons actions
Clickbait. No SCARY (all caps) societal change was discussed in the video at all.
Every human is given the freedom, free will, and every opportunity to NOT kill another person.
So if they make the personal decision to do so (an exception would be self-defense, but this is still a controversial exception despite being "defense") then they need to be willing to accept any outcome/consequence that comes with making that choice.
No one is "forced" to kill another person. No one is born with the "mandatory obligation" to murder another human being.
It is not a rite of passage. It is not something that "comes with age." It is not (or should not be) something to look forward to on a "bucket list."
It is ALWAYS a CHOICE.
Once that choice is made, it's made. There's no "take backsies."
So yes, I also agree that if you commit an act of such a high degree (taking a life/lives), then the consequences should be AT LEAST equal to that.
Self-defense will always be controversial, because situations in which killing is "necessary" is still a messed up situation no matter which way you look at it, because a life will have to end either way. However, it is still going to be considered an exception due to the unfortunate malicious and life-threatening nature of many human beings.
You can't make a one size fits all ruling for something like that. In the US the youngest person ever tried as an adult was apparently Nathaniel Abraham at only 11 years old, but it's almost always a controversial (and some have argued appealable) decision.
Perhaps we need to have a trial to see how they will be put on trial.
A kid is a child. Stop referring to this adult murderer as a kid, please.
So minors are up to 20 years old in Japan? 18 is adulthood already in Australia. Does USA consider 21 adult and everything under as a minor? I remember their drinking age is 21 which is ridiculous since they can own guns, join army etc before that.
At the time he committed the crime, they didn't change the law yet so this is like killing him illegally by retroactively changing the law. That shouldn't be allowed, regardless if he deserves capital punishment.
As for this case, I agree with Joey. He was old enough (19), which in most other countries is an adult. He also showed no remorse, and killed 2 people and burned the house down, not even leaving the bodies I assume. So in this specific case, I say capital punishment is fine. But prison for life with no chance of parole is also acceptable to me since like some say, a quick painless death is usually easier than spending life in a tiny cell alone forever till you die. Let him think about what he done for the rest of his life until he goes crazy from isolation..
Otherwise it should be a case by case basis. And in general I am against capital punishment, let alone for minors. But some exceptions are acceptable, like this case. I think the youngest i would go is like 14-15(to be prosecuted as an adult in rare exceptional cases where they caused massive deaths or did crimes in really heinous fashion, like that Junko case where they kidnapped and tortured and raped that girl over months or whatever), anything younger is kind of iffy since they are still lil shits and haven't developed enough mentally.
But who knows, I might make exception if the kid is super evil and the crime is unforgivable. Like that junko case. Some kids are just more mature and evil than others, and such acts need to be punished in similar ways which being just as much pain and suffering to the killer as they inflicted on the victims.
In the USA he'd be released in 24 hours on $1 bail
I have no words for this situation but I learned a lot about Japan's law system.
Wait…so who is she on the thumbnail of this video?
First of all the idea that someone like this would care what happens if he gets caught by the police is nonsensical. Capital punishment has never been useful for that and never will.
Second the only real reason to execute someone is because they are going to find a way to finish what they started if they are allowed to live which seems likely in this scenario especially since he seems psychopathic which means he'll probably hold his revenge fantasy to the day he dies.
The article you read was badly written. It keeps telling later things instead of as much of a play by play for how and why the events happened. Saying that he killed someone then several sentences later half describing how or why he killed them is awful writing unless you are trying to front load how the author wants you feel about the incident.
The guy went over and argued with the father that he should make his daughter date him. Then when the father refused grabbed or took out a knife that he had hidden on himself (?) at which point he killed the father and wife without either one taking any aggressive action against him first (correct?). Then in a fit anger he started torching the house to either kill the daughters or destroy evidence or both.
Anything else which even this much is unclear with how the article was written is worthless fluff. The law and you shouldn't care about how anybody else feels about anything including the daughters.
Anyway, generally when people get older, mainly out of their twenty's, they stop being as emotionally unstable which means locking them up for just ten years is enough to chill most people out to the point they stop committing any kind of violent crimes. More than is generally pointless but those are mainly crimes of passion and this guy probably isn't going to fit in that group.
One incident doesn't make him a "bad person or evil" he's probably fine with anybody else which means people like you will never see him as dangerous till after an incident like this happens. There were probably dozens of red flag moments before this that the people around him should have stepped up and done something to start curbing his anger issues.
"Good person" isn't what anybody should be concerned about. There's plenty of crap people in the world that don't kill anybody.
Lots of us outside of japan are worse than ignorant, i see a lot of weebs turn a blind eye to japan's crimes and flaws. Even worse, lots of conservative people glorify japan's conservative laws, even when they're a clear miscarriage of human rights and civil rights. (See how japan brutalizes immigrants and don't give fair treatment in order to deport people, also see discussion around sexual consent and stuff)
I think it's important to highlight or at least sometimes examine where and when japan does poorly, as well as when they do well
Im just against the death penalty period. This guy deserves a life sentence, no parole, but taking their life is irreversible, and since laws are rigid i personally think a restrained position makes sense: if they're really as bad as we think then they're not going to hurt anyone behind bars. But if there was a mistake, or they change as a person, then they can be freed (or given some permissions while remaining in custody). But that's a long discussion
Its not only about moralities.
Its about learning from your mistakes and giving someone a 2nd chance.
And we all know Japan doesn't acknowledge that. You have to be as perfect as you can you and respect the elderly (Even though if that elderly is rude or have wronged you, they are always correct).
Besides. Isn't learning from your mistakes and improving yourself is the experience of being a human? (Japan is going backwards at times)
"to err is human, to forgive divine"
PS: I don't give 2 fucks about the kid. It's the criminal system changed is at the topic of discussion.
毎度毎度煽るようなタイトルやめてもらいます？
Citing "equivalent exchange" from FMA as an excuse for the death sentence feels like a disturbingly gross misreading of the entire point of FMA. Theres a reason Edward gave up alchemy at the end. Theres a reason Envy commits suicide in the face of 4 major characters refusing to enact vengeance on each other. Also literally Winry/Scar's entire arcs. An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind.
I can understand using an analogy like that as your personal way of explaining complex subjective opinions, but in this case, that reference came across as extremely unsettling and makes me question your interpretation of similar revenge stories that tackle such moral quandaries.
That being said, I agree that the criminal shouldn't be allowed anywhere near public life, and the victim should be compensated with as much care (both financial and mental) as possible to try and recover from what was taken from them. I also agree the death penalty (if it should exist at all) should also be an absolute last resort for someone completely beyond reason and remorse for prevention of further harm. I just had to comment as the FMA analogy really stuck out to me in a bad way.
There's a reason why in at least the US justice system, as imperfect as it is, you can have your case escalated by a District Attorney out of Juvenile Court to Adult (normal) Court based on the severity of the crime. The fact that people that in many parts of the world would be considered adults are treated with "kid gloves" despite doing horrible crimes that would be considered ghastly is astonishing. Of course, I'm thinking of the Junko case where the offenders all walk free and anonymous at that.
there is "stupid shit" you can commit as a kid that you could call "mistakes" but this ain't one of them, this ain't shop lifting or something easily explainable (kids don't make money, it is easy for them to do that "mistake".) this is something heinous and passes a level of mental stability that makes this person unsafe to be in a society.
he only got rejected by a girl, there is no reason for him to hurt people over something as mundane as that. (even if she spent years asking him out and rejecting him saying it's a joke and telling him to die, trust me i would know, never even fought once in my life. also the reason i do not believe in Tsunderes, those don't exist, they REALLY just hated you.)
Based she shouldn't have rejected
@@ogfemtoTroll.
That is one hell of a headline
This is not an isolated case, this is more to do with Japan's culture and it's extreme conservatism.
Until parents stop neglecting their children and stop working horrendous hours without any proper rest or pay and not a single mental health program in sight, this will continue to happen.
Crime rate is possibly higher than what the statistics show because Japanese don't want you to hear about some of the crimes, because they are embarrassed by that.
A lot of factual truth mixed in with some assumptions. I personally wouldn’t dissect the issue in this kind of an one dimensional way.
Nah you just sound ignorant asf & kinda racially motivated 😂 parental negligence is not the root cause of most serious crimes. Countless of horrendous crimes has happened more in America but the most horrific U.S. serial killers grew up in normal households. So connecting japan’s criminal acts like literal murder to their “conservatism” is absolutely garbage & not plausible whatsoever, as intentional murder is sadly a universal things in most countries that have no link to conservatism.
You can’t & shouldn’t link a crime like this to how the killer was raised. That’s basically saying “oH hE wAs sAd sO hE jUsT hAd tO KiLl” like no bruh 😭 even if Japan wasn’t as conservative & not so work toxic it would STILL have horrendous crimes like this. He knew right from wrong & the murder was well intended as well.
Also Japan has been working for years to fix the working culture & yes it’s still bad but let’s not act like they haven’t tried because a lot of Japanese tourist places were originally built to aid overworked workers. Also there are many mental health services in Japan too. Mental health is not a “specific” issue only to Japan but in many parts of Asia. Yes, Japan has high records but that’s also not an excuse to the crime that he committed whatsoever. Because that would mean he wasn’t mentally competent but the court literally stated that he fully mentally aware during the act of the murders & arson.
Not another japan is dark cringe Comment. The crime rate in jaosn is low even if you update sme laws still it is nowhere clse t the level of usa or uk
The world’s messed up. People are messed up. Everything’s so messed up.
Also, it is hella weird when you’re the first to comment. It’s like….1 in a thousand. And it’s like a liminal space
2+2=4
11+10=21
9+60=69
It’s either 0 or 100 with Japan because that country is really repressed. The people keep a lot of stuff bottled up and most of the time most of the people can live their whole lives like that but once in awhile one of them pops and goes completely berserk.
Love the videos, man. Keep it up!!!
Reminded me of Hikarishi Boshi Satsugai Jiken.
The perpetrator (Takayuki Ōtsuki, formerly named Takayuki Fukuda) killed, performed necrophilia on the 23 y/o mother, then slammed and strangled 11 months old daughter. The perpetrator was 18 y/o at the time.
When the perpetrator was on trial, the husband/father of the victims was
1. denied access to the court with the victim's photos because the judge believe it will influence the perpetrator's emotion
2. not allow to speak in court and could only participate as a spectator
The defendant was given a sentence of life imprisonment initially. However there is no actual life imprisonment for minors. After 7-8 years of good performance in prison, they can be let go. The husband/father and the persecutor knew and so they kept appealing until they reached the Japanese Supreme Court. At the Supreme Court, the defendant's lawyer team grew from 2 (voluntary) to 21.
The final deciding factor was the persecutor found the letters that the defendant sent to his friends talking about wanting a party once he is out and "what wrong is it for a male dog to ride on a cute female dog he sees?". The verdict is finally changed to capital punishment. It took the victim's family and persecutor 10 years to finally achieve it.
I had to boil it down to the most important essence without taking away the severity of the entire incident. I hope someone can do an in-depth video on this. Even the prime minister at the time also got involved in improving the rights for the victim's families in court.
For a case where the accused admits the crime, or there is irrefutable proof that they did it (clear video evidence, I'm not talking about witnesses' potentially faulty memories) then the death penalty wouldn't be that bad. BUT for everything else, as long as there is a non-zero number of people who have been WRONGFULLY CONVICTED and sentenced to death, I will not be for it. In the US alone at least 196 people were wrongfully convicted and (thankfully) exonerated... but what of the people who were executed BEFORE they could be found innocent? The "justice" system has always been fallible... and so long as it is, I can't in good conscience be in favor of the death penalty.
I don't see how that change is scary? If anything it's long overdue, many countries have similar laws allowing minors to receive the same sentences as adults in cases where the crime is especially awful (for the UK it's murder, in France it's case by case as long as the sentence for the crime would be longer than 2 years).
just clickbait probably. Unless he's referring to the situation surrounding the change?
Two things:
First, legal responsibilities and consequences in a democratic society is built on agreement to the rights those very same responsibilities and consequences uphold. Since a minor does not have the same rights as adults, it would be discrimination to judge them as such.
Secondly, this seems like a post facto law case, were a legal change permits retroactive consequences. This a considered illegal by international law, as it basically allows those in power to manipulate the law for their own purposes. It's not compatible with democracy.
There are things worse than death. Like living in prison, at 18, without the hope of seeing the outside world again.
They have such a low crime rate because they punish everything quite harshly. AND, they tend to teach their kids respect and courtesy.
In Norway you're treated as an adult in the eyes of the law from the age of 15.
But then, Norway doesn't change the law and then sentences people retroactively. Well, not as far as I know.
I been to Japan I have videos of how they conduct themselves on the streets, it’s no different from any other country a lot of people on drugs and alcohol
we need to get this channel more subs!!! love the content man
Joey at first: "This man must be killed"
Joey later: "There is no necessary murder"
???
I applaud prosecutors this time around.
Leave it to americans to protect the rights of murderers while not taking care of the helpless and voiceless. Nice video hahaha
death panalty is a difficult thing, yes a psychopath like that should not be on our earth, but also life long jail would be hell, and not sure what would push crime down more, also a life in jail will cost alot and i know thats a wierd point to make, but its the money of tax payers thats used there, i dont think im on either side, id need to think about it more
Yeah, here in the U.S. we have our own stuff going on, and there’s too much to keep up with
The problem with life sentences is that then the offender gets rewarded with lifetime support. Housing, food, the opportunity for education and usually quality medical care (better medical care than a lot of people on the outside) for life, all at the taxpayers expense. The problem with the death penalty is that sometimes the innocent get convicted and you can't set them free after the sentence has been carried, if they are proven innocent later. Unless there are several witnesses and/or a confession that is not false, it is a real no win proposition.
the judicial system at its core is a system of prevention and rehabilitation not retribution.
life sentence with the possibility of parole makes sense to an extent.
this person who has committed a grievous and heinous crime could possibly change for the better and become a functioning member of society however if he shows no sign of such change then keep him in prison for life.
but the issue with that is the sentiment of the victims of the crime and if there are no victims left then the relatives of those victims.
is it fair to those people that this person who has wronged them and stole a bright future from them to have a future of their own.
but then again retribution does not bring prosperity, so the opinion of the victims or the victims relative has to be taken into account.
however a life sentence without the possibility of parole is dumb.
it wastes resources and defeats the whole point of the judicial system, and also sets a bad precedent.
a death sentence makes more sense
bold of you to assume prison life is gucci lol
@@bigfrostishere Some people want to go to jail for provision, like Chris Carver.
@@bigfrostishereso you agree with Saudi Arabian law
@user-gu9yq5sj7c jail and prison aren't the same thing
Idk about the death sentence tho. To me that says a lot different things then life sentences. It not only implies the person is like “evil” which is kinda whack, but also that society doesn’t know how to deal with them. Even if it’s a minor factor it’s also a bit society’s fault for letting someone become that, you think he as a baby had it in him some day he would do that.
Basically the death penalty also becomes the easy solution for society to be like we are not good enough to prevent this and we will just patch it out rather then trying to admit faults and work towards a society where it never happens
Changing the law just to charge someone with a crime will always set a dangerous precedent, but in this case, I don't disagree with Japan.
On a case-by-case basis, you cannot give everyone "a chance." After a point, the time for that "chance" has passed and I believe Japan has made the right decision.
Unpopular opinion, people should be prosecuted as adults from age 16 onwards
I'm against capital punishment but I do agree that he shouldn't be tried as a minor if proven he was mature enough to fully understand what he was doing.
That's kind of how stuff works where I live for younger offenders.
Then why even have those minor laws
I believe justice should always be served as per the severity of the crime, and it seems in the case you've mentioned, the punishment does appear to match the crime. It's indeed a controversial topic with no clear-cut answer.
I'll be honest, the most shocking part about this video is, at least for me, the fact that Japan still enforces the death penalty.
i mean more than 50% of usa still enforce it too lol
@@powerofdeath. Yeah and that's fucked up too.
Is it tho?
That’s actually good
To me, it's the Ex post facto law.
I wouldn't call him a "kid" if he did that shit at 19.
Everyone arguing “but people can be rehabilitated!” are missing a major factor here. Not everyone deserves a chance for rehabilitation. Some people are genuinely evil and cannot be helped. There are trials to determine these things, that’s why some monsters DO get the chance.
100%
Absolutely!!!! Why does he get to have a chance at rehabilitation when he ruined someone else's life forever?
Who decides, you?
@@ogfemto “There are trials to determine these things” its literally in my original comment lol. But, since you couldn’t seem to understand, a court decides 🤡
@@ogfemtoNo, the legal system.
I’ve seen videos by Sakura Stardust about Japan stuff and it’s crazy how a celebrity can commit sa or something like that with little to no repercussions while any that use drugs or just cheat on their so have their life and career ruined for forever for it. It says something about US entertainment industry where we can be more forgiving on that latter stuff or at least not as career destroying in regards to cheating.
They say Age doesn't matter, but still people will argue with anything.
All this chaos, torture, and destruction seems getting more worse with time speeding up.
I wish that the world will minimize more of it asap so this kid and its victims in japan/worldwide will not happen again.
Wish you aswell everyone be safe and have more blessings to come.
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judging minors as adults i think depends on the case and context. in this case yes judge gim as an adult. personally i think there should be variation in the types of punishment given that can make a given sentence lighter or harsher. for instance if given a long sentence instead of death make it complete isolation for the entire time so no contact with other people of any kind(if the crime is bad enough) as an example of making it harsher.
And the age, an 16 years old doing something bad its not the same as a 11 years old for example.
I just hope japan doesn't become like the United States with crazy crimes
What do you mean? Japan has some of the craziest crimes in history. What they don't have is constant shootings... cos they don't have guns, and they will never have.
Yeah. I hope so as well.
Nah it's too late. The internet does wonders on spreading """""culture""""" for better or worse. The worst part is that we may not be seeing the full extent of crimes happening in Japan especially female related crimes because of their extremely strong concept of shame. If your culture has this trait, you will be incentivized to hide shameful stuff even more either as a citizen or a government entity
@@grog159 That is some intensely small brain, right wing take. I bet you are really scared that your perfect redpill paradise Japan is going to be invaded by scary scary brown people. Except the crime above has nothing to do with immigration and everything to do with Japanese society being fucked up.
Oh Japan has craaaazy crimes. They are just VERY rare.
Pretty interesting that you used the idea of tit for tat "equivilent exchange" and cite Fullmetal, when Roy's whole arc was overcoming that sort of cycle of revenge...
I look at the death penalty is a cop out. I think life in prison with no possibility of parole is more brutal. Like you die and its over, but living in a cell your whole life would be torture to me
Is the point for prison is torture?
My biggest objection to capital punishment is the fear that an innocent person would occasionally get ghosted, but I personally would rather be retired than wait decades for a super sleuth and legal dream team to come along.
I believe life is sacred, but I also believe in the continuity of the soul.
Most warrior cultures understand that this isn't a paradox. And most cultures are warrior cultures. There are very few pacifist cultures.
This is very difficult.
Why should we support with our taxes all these prisoners?
And you think burial isn't less expensive?@@wdl2499
The video discusses a case in Japan where a 21-year-old man was sentenced to death for committing a double murder and arson. This case is significant because it is the first time in Japan that a minor at the time of the crime has been given the death penalty. The change in the law regarding the treatment of minors in Japan has led to this sentence, as Japan used to treat minors as people under the age of 20, but has now changed it to under 18, similar to many other countries.
The defendant, Yuki Endo, was 19 at the time of the attack and committed the crimes as a result of feeling desperate and angry after a girl he liked refused to go on a date with him. He also felt discontent with his relationship with his parents. The trial revealed that he offered no apologies for his actions and did not intend to appeal the ruling.
The case has sparked debate in Japan about whether minors should be tried in the same way as adults and whether the death penalty is appropriate for such cases. The video's creator believes that Endo deserves the death penalty due to his lack of remorse and the heinous nature of his crimes. However, opinions on this subject are subjective and vary from person to person.
In the US a minor can be tried as an adult depending of the crime. Our constitutional prohibition on ex post facto laws would not allow the legal change to put him into adult court. Also minors can't get the death penalty but you become an adult as age 18.
It's weird how the age of majority keeps going down, while mental age and maturation rate keep going down. People are becoming more and more immature. He throws a tantrum like a 4 year old, in the body of a nearly fully grown adult, capable of violence.
At least they raised the AoC now, from... 12 or what it was before in Japan.
the only reason of why crime rates are lower in japan isnt because there is no people committing crimes in japan. its due to the AUTHORITY focuses more on ORDER than justice. the japanese authorities tend to choose to CO-EXISTS with the dark sides of japan. despite the claim that they were cracking down on mafia for example, yakuza lives on and have wide range of businesses in japan. so long they pay taxes and does not create any commotions. the same with prostitutions, even the ILLEGAL ones. for example , everybody in tokyo know(including minors) that there are those night clubs "pimps" going around fetching naive young girls(a lot of them under age/below 17) and turning them into prostitutes. the police know it. but they would only arrest one that get official complaints, and LET LIVE all the other ones who got no complaints reports about them. this is has been the way of japanese authority there. you can see police in alley ways and in neighbourhood, but that dont makes drug dealers and its circulations non existent. this is just how it is in japan. and the people learn to live under that notion. they know despite so many authority figures around them, they all have to deal with their own problems ALONE. this is why you are seeing what happens with japanese social progressions. dont get blinded by all the merry light works of the night life. things are broken.
Dang it so sad that i just found out today that Japan is like that, this makes me not want to go there even more.I hope Japan can fix their moral values as much as Advance as their technology is.
I personally think that older teens (16 - 19-year-olds) should absolutely be held accountable for their criminal actions. Yes, they are not fully grown adults but murdering someone because they didn't want to go out on a date with you is just a psychopathic thing to do and it has nothing to do with maturity. Chances are, if this guy didn't get sentenced, he could have continued doing the same into his adult life because he would know he could get away with it scot-free. This would also serve as an example to other similarly psychopathic people, it's like they are being told that they can decide who lives or dies based on their whim.
I don't know why teens are generally treated by the law like they cannot understand their own actions - even little children learn how to push boundaries and manipulate adults early on, so why are teens considered "not old enough to realize what they have done"? Especially when it comes to criminal acts. They 1000000% know they SHOULD NOT do this but they do it anyway.
I dont think a death penalty should be given regardless of any crime. Biggest reason being the possibility of a mis trial and second being the fact that giving a life sentence often does fix people. spending 50+ years locked away definitely teaches you not to fuck around again. Plus you will be old enough not to be able to do such a crime anyways.
Kids, or anybody of any age really, thinking being a criminal is a funny game should win stupid prices for playing stupid games.
Well done Nihon.
A 2 billion people worldwide just laughed when you said morals are OBVIOUSLY subjective.
Something that stuck with me was something that Sam Harris said. It was in the context of Free Will and and that conversation kind of naturally went to "in the context of crimes, does it matter if somebody has proper free will or their brain only presented them bad options. He said "we would lock up hurricanes in jail if we could to keep them from hurting people." I definitely think that somebody who does these sorts of crimes is such a danger that they at least need the key to be thrown away.. even if I don't think that you can do what he did and not have something mentally wrong with you. Like you were I would never even genuinely consider killing somebody and here's this guy breaking into people's houses and killing them and bring their houses down.
What a nightmare. What a nightmare for the judge too..
The worst crime is being homeless, society rejects you and looks down on you.
Holy shit. I didn't even know they had the death sentence.
Apparently from what I am aware of, it’s a tad worse then the American death penalty, because your not given a date of confirmation nor a timeline, as well as other details, which could be the next day, week or year, so your just waiting which would take a mental toll from pondering when it will happen
I may be wrong, but it’s from what I am able to recall from
Death penalty is disgusting and a human rights violation
@@ketchup901 cope
@@ketchup901 Depends on the crime.
@@ShitEatingGoblin42069 No it does not.
You said murder is never okay. But isn't getting the death penalty the same as being murdered? Complicated topic.. I think being sentenced to "life in prison" should actually mean "life in prison" meaning no matter what you do, you can never get out. I don't understand why it's not treated this way
He isn't the sharpest tool in the shed, but it's fine he is entertaining on anime matters
Getting away with murder in Japan. Look up the Murder of Junko Furuta. Known as "44 days of hell". The four killers were ages 16, 17, 17 and 18. They got their hands slapped because they were minors. They kidnapped, SA, torture and beaten to death. They assaulted other people, SA, beatings, etc.
Im my country, first mass shooting happend last year. Kid was 13. He knew he wont go to prison, but it is questionable how much better are our psych wards when you will basicly spend the rest of your life in them.. He killed 8 people.. Parents went to jail for not securing their firearms.. It was completly premeditated.
In April 2024, Jennifer and James Crumbley were sentenced to 10-15 years in prison for involuntary manslaughter for failing to prevent their teenage son, Ethan Crumbley, from killing four students at Oxford High School in 2021. The Crumbleys were the first parents convicted in a U.S. mass school shooting. Prosecutors said the parents failed to safely store a gun and could have prevented the shooting by removing Ethan from school when confronted with a dark drawing he had made that day. The state advisory guidelines recommended a sentencing range of 43-86 months, or a maximum of about seven years, but each count carries up to 15 years in prison.