One of 2 guys is with such a low voice that if I didn't have the subtitles on I would have a problem understanding him. Unfortunately, I forget his name. The other one is very clear n articulate. I think his name is Roman. Pls also do something about the sound in general.
Good podcast mashallah but I completely disagree with the logic & rationality cannot prove the existence of a supreme being. The world has come so far in 100 years since the promised messiah that mathematics & science can overwhelming prove this universe has been created by a supreme being. Let me give some examples. “A common sense interpretation of the facts suggests that a superintellect has monkeyed with physics, as well as with chemistry and biology, and that there are no blind forces worth speaking about in nature.” Fred Hoyle Astrophysicist. 2. The penrose number. Sir roger Penrose is: An English mathematical physicist, mathematician, philosopher of science and Nobel Laureate in Physics. Penrose was awarded the 2020. Nobel Prize for Physics. Penrose was a close friend of Stephen Hawking, the famous English theoretical physicist, cosmologist. Penrose wondered about these questions: - What are the odds that those exact conditions could have existed at the time of the Big Bang? The Penrose Number is his scientifically-based-and-calculated estimate of those odds. According to Penrose, the odds against such an occurrence were on the order of 10 to the power of 10123 to 1, or 10^10^123, aka, the Penrose Number. these odds are infinitesimally nanoscopic In fact, the human mind cannot even grasp just how tiny those odds are. To help provide some perspective on just how small those odds are: - 10123 is written as a 1 followed by 123 zeros. And the Penrose Number is 10 to the power of 10123 to 1. - 10123 is so large that there is no name for it. - 10123 is greater than the total number of atoms (which is thought to be 1079) believed to exist in the entire universe. - In Penrose’s book The Emperor’s New Mind: Concerning Computers Minds, and the Laws of Physics, Penrose wrote this (emphasis added): One could not possibly even write the number down in full in the ordinary denary (decimal) notation: it would be 1 followed by 10123 successive 0’s. Even if we were to write a 0 on each separate proton and on each separate neutron in the entire universe - and we could throw in all the other particles for good measure - we would fall far short of writing down the figure needed. One of the greatest mathematicians of all time beyond doubt proved the existence of a supreme being. 3. The Haemoglobin number. Richard Dawkins. Khalifa rabay goes in depth about this in his book revelation rationality knowledge &truth. Leading Atheist biologist trying to prove that god doesn’t exist ironically proves he’s exists. I can keep going on & on. What prayer & experiencing God does is shows He’s takes great interest in our lives & is a kind generous God.
None of the above *prove* God exists. It's just "ought to be". There's no actual evidence of God, it's a just strong inference. Prayer and experience take actually allow you to say Yes there is definitely a God.
@bhattibhatti9494 I don't think you understand what proof is. You ever been in a court of law? It most definitely proves to any non biased individual that a supreme being exists. Prayer proves that the supreme being interacts with us.
@ those were just a few examples I gave. The language of the universe is mathematics & mathematically speaking it is beyond impossible that universe occurred by random chance. It is nearly 2025 brother stop living in the past. As time goes on science & mathematics can explain further things.
Just because huzoor said something 80 something years ago, & said logic shows a designer ‘should exist’ doesn’t meant that is still true. Science has come a long way from those 80 or so odd years, equations & studies have come that were not there at his time. Yes in his time it was that, but now anyone that is willing to research will find beyond overwhelming evidence this universe has been created. & I don’t know what Romaan is talking about, the atheists don’t have a leg to stand on with any one who knows anything about science, the atheist cannot give any arguments for there not being a creator. The only argument they have is the question of suffering which is so easily answerable.
@@rahim9nine Ah so the court of the law is the standard now where "proof" becomes highly subjective and courts literally have to repeal decisions that were apparently made on actually "proof". Again, non of these arguments "PROVE" God exists. At most it's a strong inference. You haven't actually experienced Him.
What kind of stupidity is this? Took 20 minutes just to say that logic has nothing to do with belief. Ya give dawah to aethiest saaying hey buddy i dont have any logical reasoning but just go and tonight try to talk to Him. Bye bye best of luck.
@@FahadAyaz @islaminshort7247 this video is dedicated to saying that the best way to have full, complete certainty that God exists, is to experience Him (through revelation from the Holy Quran, through personal experience with your prayers being answered, signs being showed to you). This does not mean that logical evidence does not exist. In fact, watch the God summit, the existence project by the Review of Religions, or reading "Revelation, Rationality, Knowledge & Truth" by Hazrat Mirza Tahir Ahmad. There's loads of evidence and points written concisely out for you if only you do some research. The video explicitly states that at 17:35-17:38. They even opened the video with that. 17:35-18:18 is a summary of the video, which you should probably rewatch to understand the message of what is being said. Another time stamp to watch for this same purpose is from 19:04-21:20. Anyway I hope you understand what was being said in the video after reading this or at least rewatching it with an open heart. Ameen
Personal experience of a god, any god, does not mean that the said god exists. Unless and until somebody produces falsifiable evidence to support the existence claim of at least one god all gods can be dismissed as fictions.
@@SwordOfAllah7860 " If an individual is given knowledge of the unseen, and that comes to fruition how do you explain that.". I do not seek to explain it. I dispute your assumption that there is such a thing as knowledge of the unseen.
@ How can you dispute fact? If someone says I have been given knowledge of the unseen and shares this information with the world and that knowledge comes to pass, how can you dispute it?
You sure your argument isn't circular? The steps presuppose the existence of God whose conviction needs to be established prior to it. Subjective and anecdotal testimony is nowhere more convincing for atheists. It's non-transferable.
Brahmo Samaj is minor school of thought among many and certainly most mainstream and oldest Hindu sampradaya (school of thoughts) emphasize Hindu Dharma as an experiential path, not just a book based tradition.. look up four padas of Hinduism..
One last point, in imho , 'God', can be experienced in many ways and not just through one religion or one way. What i appreciate about the hosts is that they seem to have humility , which is a virtue
God, the supposed omnipotent being that created all things, exists, but it takes other human beings to prove it. Yep, seems very believable. If Allah is incapable of revealing itself in person, then why not send angels? Why send only one to a single man over a thousand years ago alone in a cave?
Allah's unseen nature is part of the test of faith, requiring believers to trust in His existence without physically seeing Him The primary Quranic verse explaining why Allah does not reveal Himself directly to humans is found in Surah Al-A'raf, verse 143, where Moses asks to see Allah, and Allah replies that no one can see Him, illustrating the concept that humans cannot comprehend Allah's true nature in this world; "You cannot see Me! But look at the mountain. If it remains firm in its place, only then will you see Me."
@ No Muslim has seen Allah. No Muslim knows for sure Allah exists. All Muslims believe that 1400 years ago a man alone in a cave was given revelation via an angel and was later written down by his followers. There is no rational reason to believe Islam is true.
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People experiencing God is an argument no atheist can push back on. If someone's experienced God - who can tell them otherwise?
Exactly!
Excellent production, Jazakallah جزاکم الله خيرا واحسن الجزاء
ماشاءاللہ اللھم زد فزد بارك اللہ فی علمکم وعملکم
Jazakumallah wa Ahsanal Jaza Jaza. Masha'Allah, excellent program.
JazakAllah! Stay tuned for more.
A profound and enlightening program exploring the existence of God.
Thank you .
JazakAllah! Stay tuned for more content like this
Great point really well explained, would love to hear what atheists say in response to this
Important argument often overlooked
Great video !
Glad you enjoyed it
Excellent 👍👍 and an important argument
It would be helpful if you break down the talk in the description with the timing so we can easily search the points
@@foodiez Noted! Thank you for your feedback.
Great video MashaAllah!!
JazakAllah! Stay tuned for more!
One of 2 guys is with such a low voice that if I didn't have the subtitles on I would have a problem understanding him. Unfortunately, I forget his name. The other one is very clear n articulate. I think his name is Roman. Pls also do something about the sound in general.
Cool very interesting
Glad you think so!
@@AlHakamOnline you are spiritual warriors of the almighty God
Good podcast mashallah but I completely disagree with the logic & rationality cannot prove the existence of a supreme being. The world has come so far in 100 years since the promised messiah that mathematics & science can overwhelming prove this universe has been created by a supreme being. Let me give some examples. “A common sense interpretation of the facts suggests that a superintellect has monkeyed with physics, as well as with chemistry and biology, and that there are no blind forces worth speaking about in nature.” Fred Hoyle Astrophysicist.
2. The penrose number.
Sir roger Penrose is:
An English mathematical physicist, mathematician, philosopher of science and Nobel Laureate in Physics.
Penrose was awarded the 2020. Nobel Prize for Physics. Penrose was a close friend of Stephen Hawking, the famous English theoretical physicist, cosmologist.
Penrose wondered about these questions:
- What are the odds that those exact conditions could have existed at the time of the Big Bang?
The Penrose Number is his scientifically-based-and-calculated estimate of those odds.
According to Penrose, the odds against such an occurrence were on the order of 10 to the power of 10123 to 1, or 10^10^123, aka, the Penrose Number.
these odds are infinitesimally nanoscopic
In fact, the human mind cannot even grasp just how tiny those odds are. To help provide some perspective on just how small those odds are:
- 10123 is written as a 1 followed by 123 zeros. And the Penrose Number is 10 to the power of 10123 to 1.
- 10123 is so large that there is no name for it.
- 10123 is greater than the total number of atoms (which is thought to be 1079) believed to exist in the entire universe.
- In Penrose’s book The Emperor’s New Mind: Concerning Computers Minds, and the Laws of Physics, Penrose wrote this (emphasis added):
One could not possibly even write the number down in full in the ordinary denary (decimal) notation: it would be 1 followed by 10123 successive 0’s. Even if we were to write a 0 on each separate proton and on each separate neutron in the entire universe - and we could throw in all the other particles for good measure - we would fall far short of writing down the figure needed.
One of the greatest mathematicians of all time beyond doubt proved the existence of a supreme being.
3. The Haemoglobin number.
Richard Dawkins. Khalifa rabay goes in depth about this in his book revelation rationality knowledge &truth. Leading Atheist biologist trying to prove that god doesn’t exist ironically proves he’s exists.
I can keep going on & on.
What prayer & experiencing God does is shows He’s takes great interest in our lives & is a kind generous God.
None of the above *prove* God exists. It's just "ought to be". There's no actual evidence of God, it's a just strong inference. Prayer and experience take actually allow you to say Yes there is definitely a God.
@bhattibhatti9494 I don't think you understand what proof is. You ever been in a court of law? It most definitely proves to any non biased individual that a supreme being exists. Prayer proves that the supreme being interacts with us.
@ those were just a few examples I gave. The language of the universe is mathematics & mathematically speaking it is beyond impossible that universe occurred by random chance. It is nearly 2025 brother stop living in the past. As time goes on science & mathematics can explain further things.
Just because huzoor said something 80 something years ago, & said logic shows a designer ‘should exist’ doesn’t meant that is still true. Science has come a long way from those 80 or so odd years, equations & studies have come that were not there at his time. Yes in his time it was that, but now anyone that is willing to research will find beyond overwhelming evidence this universe has been created. & I don’t know what Romaan is talking about, the atheists don’t have a leg to stand on with any one who knows anything about science, the atheist cannot give any arguments for there not being a creator. The only argument they have is the question of suffering which is so easily answerable.
@@rahim9nine Ah so the court of the law is the standard now where "proof" becomes highly subjective and courts literally have to repeal decisions that were apparently made on actually "proof". Again, non of these arguments "PROVE" God exists. At most it's a strong inference. You haven't actually experienced Him.
What kind of stupidity is this? Took 20 minutes just to say that logic has nothing to do with belief.
Ya give dawah to aethiest saaying hey buddy i dont have any logical reasoning but just go and tonight try to talk to Him. Bye bye best of luck.
You just missed the whole point of the video lol. Classic straw man
Which point did they miss?
@@FahadAyaz @islaminshort7247 this video is dedicated to saying that the best way to have full, complete certainty that God exists, is to experience Him (through revelation from the Holy Quran, through personal experience with your prayers being answered, signs being showed to you). This does not mean that logical evidence does not exist. In fact, watch the God summit, the existence project by the Review of Religions, or reading "Revelation, Rationality, Knowledge & Truth" by Hazrat Mirza Tahir Ahmad. There's loads of evidence and points written concisely out for you if only you do some research. The video explicitly states that at 17:35-17:38. They even opened the video with that. 17:35-18:18 is a summary of the video, which you should probably rewatch to understand the message of what is being said. Another time stamp to watch for this same purpose is from 19:04-21:20. Anyway I hope you understand what was being said in the video after reading this or at least rewatching it with an open heart. Ameen
Personal experience of a god, any god, does not mean that the said god exists. Unless and until somebody produces falsifiable evidence to support the existence claim of at least one god all gods can be dismissed as fictions.
But knowledge revealed of the unseen? How would you explain that.
@@SwordOfAllah7860 Nobody has seen or detected any god. To claim knowledge of any god is irrational. I explain it as being an irrationality.
@@philhart4849 you didn’t answer my question. If an individual is given knowledge of the unseen, and that comes to fruition how do you explain that.
@@SwordOfAllah7860 " If an individual is given knowledge of the unseen, and that comes to fruition how do you explain that.". I do not seek to explain it. I dispute your assumption that there is such a thing as knowledge of the unseen.
@ How can you dispute fact? If someone says I have been given knowledge of the unseen and shares this information with the world and that knowledge comes to pass, how can you dispute it?
You sure your argument isn't circular? The steps presuppose the existence of God whose conviction needs to be established prior to it. Subjective and anecdotal testimony is nowhere more convincing for atheists. It's non-transferable.
کیا مرزا غلام قادیانی صاحب احادیث والے مہدی ہیں
Yes
Brahmo Samaj is minor school of thought among many and certainly most mainstream and oldest Hindu sampradaya (school of thoughts) emphasize Hindu Dharma as an experiential path, not just a book based tradition.. look up four padas of Hinduism..
Good podcast although the focus by the hosts of this channel is Abrahamic traditions.
One last point, in imho , 'God', can be experienced in many ways and not just through one religion or one way. What i appreciate about the hosts is that they seem to have humility , which is a virtue
God, the supposed omnipotent being that created all things, exists, but it takes other human beings to prove it. Yep, seems very believable.
If Allah is incapable of revealing itself in person, then why not send angels? Why send only one to a single man over a thousand years ago alone in a cave?
It’s called Faith………Google it
Allah's unseen nature is part of the test of faith, requiring believers to trust in His existence without physically seeing Him
The primary Quranic verse explaining why Allah does not reveal Himself directly to humans is found in Surah Al-A'raf, verse 143, where Moses asks to see Allah, and Allah replies that no one can see Him, illustrating the concept that humans cannot comprehend Allah's true nature in this world; "You cannot see Me! But look at the mountain. If it remains firm in its place, only then will you see Me."
@
No Muslim has seen Allah. No Muslim knows for sure Allah exists. All Muslims believe that 1400 years ago a man alone in a cave was given revelation via an angel and was later written down by his followers. There is no rational reason to believe Islam is true.
Excellent 👍👍 and an important argument