Jaghatai Khan is considered one of the most underrated Primarchs. Aside from being the most levelheaded and reasonable, he also gives the sickest burns.
@@Garoslol the traitors were not sent away to do their own thing. They were sent to die in suicidal combat to regain their honor as Sagyar Mazan. The Sagyar Mazan were traitors who were not on the level of leading the rebellion but also not on the level of merely following their leaders. The leaders of the rebellion, the ones who knew they were wrong and still chose their path, were executed but to execute all the traitors would be a huge blow and a waste. Thus their fate as Sagyar Mazan suicide teams. It's possible that some of them joined Horus but highly unlikely; it's made clear that any traitors who were so deeply invested with Horus chose to flee without waiting for the Khan's judgment. [SPOILERS] The Sagyar Mazan ultimately redeemed themselves, either by dying in suicide combat missions or, at the end, when they fought to try to kill Mortarion, a traitor primarch, by blowing up the ship with him.
@@apark91 How do you explain the White Scars traitors in the Garro short stories then who killed a Custodes? The Khan was very naive to trust all of them.
@@Garoslol Some of the unrepentant traitors, including a Captain Hakeem and others would mingle with refugee flotilla led by loyalist World Eaters and Emperor's Children. Where after some betrayal and murder they incurred the wrath of the loyalist World Eater Macer Varren, and together with the first Knights-Errant Nathaniel Garro were wiped out.
The Emperor is single handedly responsible for atleast 3 primarchs to betray him, maybe even 4 with Konrad for not wanting to help him heal in some way. He kidnapped Angron and let his comrades get massacred, and never helped him with the removal of butchers nails. Then hummiliating and saving Mortartion. And Lorgar well, he got that psychic kick in the balls with the whole Legion.
@@12coudak000 The Mortarion point is moot. He was about to get yeeted off the cliff and die. Had the emperor not been there, there would be no Mortarion. As for Angron, the removing the nails would have killed him. Aside from that, I agree with all the other ones. Hell, he could also have treated Pertuarbo better and said, "Good job son" at least once or twice.
@@AIartificalIntellige The emperor didn t need to save angrons live to prevent his betrayal. He just needed to save his slave allies. And he could have done so easily People say that his planet was already compliant and that was teh reason the emperor let them get killed, but he could have still found a way to stop it. he could have confronted Angrons rebellion with his own fleet beore the engagement, and offered angon to spare every gladiator in exchange for his loyalty. Also, a minor point, but the fact that the emperor accepted Nuceria into the imperium, despite it being a warlord state that thrived on slavery and literally mutilates people for fun, speaks a lot about the imperium he was building. The modern 40k imperium is not the way it is despite the emperor, but because of him
Honestly, proper communication would've fixed more than half the problems of thus Imperium. Also, having your main frontline forces made up of transhuman super soldiers programmed to believe themselves superior than the average human, along with the fact that they are literary 5-10 year olds super sized and placed in power armor. Of course, they don't know how to properly handle extreme stressful situations and dramatic changes in the status quo. Along with how to actually talk to normal people. Little socially awkward psychopaths lol 😂
The Great Crusade. The conquest of the Milky Way itself... Hundreds of years, billions of lives lost, entire sub-sectors reclaimed and ruined... The logistics alone would melt the human mind. And you're telling me that they need to have a one-on-one chat? When say... The guy you're trying to get a hold of across the Galaxy can only talk to you through some dude who sees what he's saying through another dude through dreams. That's why in "Fear to Tread" Sang is freaking out that Horus can speak to him in 'real time' across the Galaxy.
when you have warriors who fight to the death "honorably" (as opposed to world eaters) it is hard not to take casualties, in my opinion space wolves should have been a force to be used strategically for this reason. They do not just walk away from a fight.
@@shawnledragonian Also isn't space combat their crutch? Like on planets they will tear everyone apart but in space they're just tin cans waiting in a ship
@@maartent9697 "Space wolves" are what the imperium knows the legion as. The "Vlka Fenryka" or the Rout. Is what they call themselves. Space Marines by definition are (usually equipped with atmospheric gear, allowing them to fight and navigate and a vacuum) All legions can fight in space, but some are more effective than others against certain adversaries. (I.E space wolves are most against enemies that use warp powers/don't like melee.)
Jaghatai did not rush to Prospero to take revenge for Magnus. He is actually the one primarch with good critical thinking skills. He went there to confirm the destruction of the world and to see what the situation is. After speaking to a shard of Magnus, he met Mortarion, who tried to turn Jaghatai to the traitor side. Jaghatai, being the thad he is, declined and dueled him.
@@motivatedguy4102 You didn't listen properly. What it said was that he was about to rush off to slaughter the Wolves, but the Alpha Legion fleet blocked him which hinted that something was off about the news they were hearing. That's when he instead went to Prospero to get the truth
As someone who is a bit of a newbie to the Warhammer 40k universe and only painted the miniatures about c30 years ago, I wanted to learn more about the background (lore) behind it all. Haven’t the time to read the books. So these videos on the characters/battles/strategies etc really help in digestible chunks really help. Keep ‘em coming! Thanks
While the series is quite long in the tooth(54 main books, plus primarchs novels, plus short stories and the like, plus siege of terra mini-series), it's quite worth reading it all, do be mindful, not every detail gets covered by the videos (some are less, some are more important, like luther's censure).
The motivations of Alpharius and the Alpha Legion for the joining the traitors, is so complex and convoluted that it defies normal human comprehension.
There are differencies among books yes. Personal favourites are those with epic drama and grand scale strategy discussion and interaction between primarchs and other powerful beings. Secondly, I find fast paced action also entertaining. Here are few favorites: Fulgrim, Legion, Know No Fear, Fear to Tread, Pharos, Tallarn @@richardthomas9497
Fascinating and sad; Magnus reveals that during the scattering of the primarchs, Jaghatai and Fulgrim's capsules were swapped places by a powerful entity (though Magnus didn't reveal the name). It ends with Jaghatai saying Magnus had told him everything except how to restore him to the way he was. Magnus was one of the few Primarchs Jaghatai got along with and was saddened with his fate.
These entore series with its visuals abd details is just awe inspiring. Like holy shit i am beyond impressed. Amazing job. Kuddos once again to your artists. The visuals are all incredible. You lads single handedly delievered what GW just couldent.
Hey Bulut not artists but artist for this series and it happens to be me and very strangely I think we are from the same nationality. Scars after the Emperor! :)
I'm glad to see another Horus Heresy video. I hope you'll be able to continue and conclude your other lore videos. I also hope one day, that W&W will cover the fantasy and science fiction worlds of anime and manga.
Thank you, for this playlist you are working on!! I've called Warhammer (Fantasy/Sigmar) and 40k "The Misstress" for the last 20+ years, because it's my husband's obsession since the 80s. This is helping to make sense of maybe 20% of whatever he is talking about, daily. 😆 Now I just need him to binge your videos on the Kings and Generals channel (and stuff on Elder Scrolls), and he can understand the shit that I've been spewing the last 20+ years. 🤣>>> "Kings and Generals, saving marriages, one video at a time."
For some context, the incident that got luther censured and sent to caliban went like this: there was a negotiation between lion and representatives of a planet about their compliance. Said representatives snuck an atomic-grade explosive device aboard lion's flagship in effort to kill him, luther discovered this but didn't report it immediately out of jealousy, figuring if lion dies he gets to take over the dark angels legion, but feeling a bit remorseful reports it just in time to stop the detonation. At the moment luther's true allegiance is to be determined (with his escape during the opening of great rift and now lion himself returning to the current setting). Not something to miss at least fleetingly. Iirc, russ was usually read as one would read "rust" minus the t, rather than russ read as "kievan rus" minus kievan(force of habit, not a slight towards narrator). The destruction of the jamming device was shown in the story "serpent beneath", told from omegon's pov(and reveals one thing alpha legion likes to do at times, that is, swapping conciousnesses when required). Jaghatai's searching for truth upon prospero is the main theme of the book "scars" in the latter half of the horus heresy series (54 main books). One interesting detail while we're at him, supposedly someone switched where his pod would land upon with fulgrim's intended location. Big E expected Khan to turn traitor and was greatly surprised to see him side with him instead. Big edit to add: this bit is taken directly from war40k wiki. "In truth, "sorcery" itself differs from other forms of psychic ability because it requires interacting and cutting deals for knowledge and/or power with the entities of the Warp in the pursuit of one's own selfish gain". While Blood Angels librarians did indeed break the edict, they didn't commit sorcery as defined as in the bit. They would not be the first nor last to do so for duration of horus heresy.
listening to this narration only shows you the scale of the tragedy the came with the heresy, all that big E acomplished ruined in a few years, so much dead marines, so much lost glories
I'm sure other have stated this. The heresy isn't the origin(s) of chaos, that would be "the war(s) in heaven". This would be the origin of the chaos human faction that is in 40k
When will the next alternate mongol invasion of europe video drop? It's been 7 whole months, the longest you guys ever took for an alternate history vid was 3 months, this is more than twice that. I get that it's still in development but 7 whole months is crazy
@@jamesdwayne7351 brother, imagine how much works goes into these, the fact we can watch there is a blessing. And bro... Come on, there's books and other media about damn near everything. The mongol invasion of Europe was very successful at first... But the Mongols couldn't siege these European Castles that were up in the mountains and surrounded by motes. There are stories of Mongols who made it to France... I really hope we get to hear more about them.
⚫ Genghis Khan was the symbol of Life and Death. Thus Jaghatai Khan also becomes the symbol of Life and Death (for his tragic poisonous and plagued corruption). As Daemon Primarch of Nurgle he changes his title from Warhawk to Deathhawk! Jaghatai Khan and White Scars as Nurgle's Legion, with small poisonous bone spikes, bringers of the plague storm (with Rotigus Rainfather at their side). After each hunt and victory they dip the skulls in poison, in honor of Nurgle. (They symbolize the more natural side of the God of Death)
These were some of the most crucial battles of the war as the loyalist space marine legions, isolated and outnumbered and ensnared in traps lay down by the enemy meant to destroy them. Managed to survive and escape the traps to live to fight another day and decisively intervene in the defence of Terra and defeat the heresy once and for all.
Lol clearly you haven't read the heresy series huh? Guess you need to be spoon fed the nature of the character, since you're just regurgitating old lines.
Lmao why a fantasy war makes me so angry is beyond me but damm. So much could have been avoided infact this could have been an easy loyalist victory if not for stubbornness.
Gonna be honest I gave up after 13 or so. I can't physically keep myself invested in a single hobby that long. Nothing against the series as a whole, there's some good books and bad books I read but they were mostly ok to get through.
Well, a lot of this video is either outdated information or the author's interpretation of incomplete data. It assesses the actions of the Lion without taking into account the Ruinstorm and the fact that nobody knew if Terra still stood and if the Emperor was still alive. Hence the whole story with Imperium Secundus. And as for the motivations of Alpharius and Omegon, I don't believe there has been a definitive answer. We know one of them was manipulated by the Cabal to join Horus, and eventually turned on the Cabal and wiped them out. We also know that one of them was present at the Siege of Terra and was killed by Rogal Dorn.
Truly, all hope in the world is lost; however, If you go watch it, be prepared to have your life completely changed for the better. @@WizardsandWarriors
Please go slower - You are burning through the heresy trying to make it to the siege of terra, but you are going to miss the chance to cover the heresy itself.
The more I learn about 40k the more I grow to like the White Scars. I loved studying about the Mongol empire so a Mongol themed Astartes Legion is a plus. Jaghatai also seems like a good Primarch and I like the attitude of the White Scars. I used to like the Dark Angels but Lion is a right dick.
Jaghatai Khan is considered one of the most underrated Primarchs. Aside from being the most levelheaded and reasonable, he also gives the sickest burns.
Was it reasonable to send the white scars traiters away? Didnt they join the Black Legion later on?
@@Garoslol the traitors were not sent away to do their own thing. They were sent to die in suicidal combat to regain their honor as Sagyar Mazan. The Sagyar Mazan were traitors who were not on the level of leading the rebellion but also not on the level of merely following their leaders. The leaders of the rebellion, the ones who knew they were wrong and still chose their path, were executed but to execute all the traitors would be a huge blow and a waste. Thus their fate as Sagyar Mazan suicide teams.
It's possible that some of them joined Horus but highly unlikely; it's made clear that any traitors who were so deeply invested with Horus chose to flee without waiting for the Khan's judgment.
[SPOILERS]
The Sagyar Mazan ultimately redeemed themselves, either by dying in suicide combat missions or, at the end, when they fought to try to kill Mortarion, a traitor primarch, by blowing up the ship with him.
@@apark91 How do you explain the White Scars traitors in the Garro short stories then who killed a Custodes?
The Khan was very naive to trust all of them.
@@Garoslol Some of the unrepentant traitors, including a Captain Hakeem and others would mingle with refugee flotilla led by loyalist World Eaters and Emperor's Children. Where after some betrayal and murder they incurred the wrath of the loyalist World Eater Macer Varren, and together with the first Knights-Errant Nathaniel Garro were wiped out.
"I hear you do strange things to your ships?" - Fulgrim
"I hear you do strange things to your warriors" - Jaghatai 😂
A Toast to Meros for sacrificing himself for all of the Blood Angels and Gunnar for his sacrifice
A real one
I've always had the feeling the Marines and Primarch's arrogance and hubris was almost as much responsible for the whole bloody mess as the Warmaster.
This war could have been avoided easily if anyone involved had any basic communication skills
The Emperor is single handedly responsible for atleast 3 primarchs to betray him, maybe even 4 with Konrad for not wanting to help him heal in some way. He kidnapped Angron and let his comrades get massacred, and never helped him with the removal of butchers nails. Then hummiliating and saving Mortartion. And Lorgar well, he got that psychic kick in the balls with the whole Legion.
@@12coudak000 The Mortarion point is moot. He was about to get yeeted off the cliff and die. Had the emperor not been there, there would be no Mortarion. As for Angron, the removing the nails would have killed him. Aside from that, I agree with all the other ones. Hell, he could also have treated Pertuarbo better and said, "Good job son" at least once or twice.
@@AIartificalIntellige The emperor didn t need to save angrons live to prevent his betrayal. He just needed to save his slave allies. And he could have done so easily People say that his planet was already compliant and that was teh reason the emperor let them get killed, but he could have still found a way to stop it. he could have confronted Angrons rebellion with his own fleet beore the engagement, and offered angon to spare every gladiator in exchange for his loyalty. Also, a minor point, but the fact that the emperor accepted Nuceria into the imperium, despite it being a warlord state that thrived on slavery and literally mutilates people for fun, speaks a lot about the imperium he was building. The modern 40k imperium is not the way it is despite the emperor, but because of him
Honestly, proper communication would've fixed more than half the problems of thus Imperium. Also, having your main frontline forces made up of transhuman super soldiers programmed to believe themselves superior than the average human, along with the fact that they are literary 5-10 year olds super sized and placed in power armor. Of course, they don't know how to properly handle extreme stressful situations and dramatic changes in the status quo. Along with how to actually talk to normal people. Little socially awkward psychopaths lol 😂
I feel like this whole war could have been avoided if anyone involved had basic communication skills
Starting with the emperor...
The Great Crusade.
The conquest of the Milky Way itself...
Hundreds of years, billions of lives lost, entire sub-sectors reclaimed and ruined... The logistics alone would melt the human mind.
And you're telling me that they need to have a one-on-one chat?
When say... The guy you're trying to get a hold of across the Galaxy can only talk to you through some dude who sees what he's saying through another dude through dreams.
That's why in "Fear to Tread" Sang is freaking out that Horus can speak to him in 'real time' across the Galaxy.
@@codysing1223these mother fuckers have spaceships that can move faster than light speed and you’re telling me they don’t have god damn Space Zoom?
Still with so many awful things that happened if we got rid of only 1 or 2 this entire thing could had been avoided entirely
The khan is so loved because of his impressive skills called logic thinking
It says a lot about his brothers
The Space Wolves really do spend the whole Heresy taking grevious casulties.
when you have warriors who fight to the death "honorably" (as opposed to world eaters) it is hard not to take casualties, in my opinion space wolves should have been a force to be used strategically for this reason. They do not just walk away from a fight.
I think the writers didn’t know what to do with some of the Legions.
@@shawnledragonian Also isn't space combat their crutch? Like on planets they will tear everyone apart but in space they're just tin cans waiting in a ship
@@maartent9697
"Space wolves" are what the imperium knows the legion as.
The "Vlka Fenryka" or the Rout. Is what they call themselves.
Space Marines by definition are (usually equipped with atmospheric gear, allowing them to fight and navigate and a vacuum)
All legions can fight in space, but some are more effective than others against certain adversaries. (I.E space wolves are most against enemies that use warp powers/don't like melee.)
Iron Warriors easily counter Space Wolves
Jaghatai did not rush to Prospero to take revenge for Magnus. He is actually the one primarch with good critical thinking skills. He went there to confirm the destruction of the world and to see what the situation is. After speaking to a shard of Magnus, he met Mortarion, who tried to turn Jaghatai to the traitor side. Jaghatai, being the thad he is, declined and dueled him.
Did the video ever claim that he went to Prospero for that reason?
@@aze94 in the start, yes. It did claim that.
@@motivatedguy4102 You didn't listen properly. What it said was that he was about to rush off to slaughter the Wolves, but the Alpha Legion fleet blocked him which hinted that something was off about the news they were hearing. That's when he instead went to Prospero to get the truth
As someone who is a bit of a newbie to the Warhammer 40k universe and only painted the miniatures about c30 years ago, I wanted to learn more about the background (lore) behind it all. Haven’t the time to read the books. So these videos on the characters/battles/strategies etc really help in digestible chunks really help. Keep ‘em coming! Thanks
While the series is quite long in the tooth(54 main books, plus primarchs novels, plus short stories and the like, plus siege of terra mini-series), it's quite worth reading it all, do be mindful, not every detail gets covered by the videos (some are less, some are more important, like luther's censure).
If time is an issue, I recommend the Remembrancer's channel; his videos are each character profiles from Warhammer 40K, though they vary in length.
@@richardthomas9497 Excellent suggestion, watched several of those already.
Thanks @@ivanivanovic5586
Thanks @@richardthomas9497
The motivations of Alpharius and the Alpha Legion for the joining the traitors, is so complex and convoluted that it defies normal human comprehension.
It needs an entire series just to understand it
And then it'll end with "these videos were all lies"
I very much enjoy bad writing covered up as "incomprehensibly complex"
Did they not just decide to believe those emissaries from the cabal, that a traitor victory would end the chaosgods?
isn’t it just bad writing?
@@FilipMoncrief Well let's read 'Legion' by Dan Abnett (considered one of the best authors), and find out for ourselves.
So much to delve into with 40K lore. Keep them coming. I liked it so much i watched it twice!
Have you read any of the HH novels? I just finished 53rd book 😅
@@kohtalainenalias As someone who has read most of the novels, how would you rate the series as a whole and which books were your favourites?
There are differencies among books yes.
Personal favourites are those with epic drama and grand scale strategy discussion and interaction between primarchs and other powerful beings. Secondly, I find fast paced action also entertaining.
Here are few favorites: Fulgrim, Legion, Know No Fear, Fear to Tread, Pharos, Tallarn
@@richardthomas9497
Jagatai and Magnus' conversation must have been fascinating.
Fascinating and sad; Magnus reveals that during the scattering of the primarchs, Jaghatai and Fulgrim's capsules were swapped places by a powerful entity (though Magnus didn't reveal the name).
It ends with Jaghatai saying Magnus had told him everything except how to restore him to the way he was. Magnus was one of the few Primarchs Jaghatai got along with and was saddened with his fate.
"If you truly do hail from the realm that men once called hell, when you return there, tell your kindred it was Sanguinius who threw you back."
The Quality and Lore on these videos is incredibly high. Well done Wizards and Warriors! You guys are the best.
These entore series with its visuals abd details is just awe inspiring. Like holy shit i am beyond impressed. Amazing job. Kuddos once again to your artists. The visuals are all incredible. You lads single handedly delievered what GW just couldent.
Hey Bulut not artists but artist for this series and it happens to be me and very strangely I think we are from the same nationality. Scars after the Emperor! :)
@@otgunz muhtemelen öyleyiz 😁
This video was amazing, I love all the battlefield visuals with the portraits of the characters involved. It makes for an awesome viewing experience
Bon apetite, for the Emperor!
agreed
A W E S O M E!!!!! Sanguinus
My favorite series on the channel so far
Bloody amazing work, reading through the HH books and now seeing it live and immersive on this channel is a great treat, cant wait for the series
I was just rewatching the last Horus Heresy video and thinking when the next one will be uploaded. Love you 😁😁
I'm glad to see another Horus Heresy video. I hope you'll be able to continue and conclude your other lore videos.
I also hope one day, that W&W will cover the fantasy and science fiction worlds of anime and manga.
I love this style of mapping and storytelling in the same vain of history channels, very cool!
Great episode. I can't believe I'm only learning now about that goat demon Kyriss
Your most accurate video so far ! Way better than earlier ones !
A few omissions there and there but mostly really solid job !
Thank you, for this playlist you are working on!! I've called Warhammer (Fantasy/Sigmar) and 40k "The Misstress" for the last 20+ years, because it's my husband's obsession since the 80s. This is helping to make sense of maybe 20% of whatever he is talking about, daily. 😆 Now I just need him to binge your videos on the Kings and Generals channel (and stuff on Elder Scrolls), and he can understand the shit that I've been spewing the last 20+ years. 🤣>>> "Kings and Generals, saving marriages, one video at a time."
What a fantastic video! I can't get enough WH40k stuff! 🔥⚔👏
any warhammer storyes are so hardcore awsome this is crazyyy! also the art work and tactic view of fights draw me in !!!!!!!!!! proud member!
For your nice words on visuals thank you sir! Happy to entertain K&G/W&W community. For the Emperor of Man! :)
Huh, didn't realize Luther saved Leman's ass, that's hilarious haha.
These videos are amazing. Keep up the great work ❤️
In the infinite words of Dr. Zoidberg: "More. More... More! More!!!...MORE!!!!!" 👽
Very nice. Keep up the good work.
We are blessed with a new 40k video praise the emperor 😂😂
The Emperor protects.
Been loving this series and y’all’s other channels. Would love to see a lot more 40k lore in the future
For some context, the incident that got luther censured and sent to caliban went like this: there was a negotiation between lion and representatives of a planet about their compliance. Said representatives snuck an atomic-grade explosive device aboard lion's flagship in effort to kill him, luther discovered this but didn't report it immediately out of jealousy, figuring if lion dies he gets to take over the dark angels legion, but feeling a bit remorseful reports it just in time to stop the detonation. At the moment luther's true allegiance is to be determined (with his escape during the opening of great rift and now lion himself returning to the current setting). Not something to miss at least fleetingly.
Iirc, russ was usually read as one would read "rust" minus the t, rather than russ read as "kievan rus" minus kievan(force of habit, not a slight towards narrator).
The destruction of the jamming device was shown in the story "serpent beneath", told from omegon's pov(and reveals one thing alpha legion likes to do at times, that is, swapping conciousnesses when required).
Jaghatai's searching for truth upon prospero is the main theme of the book "scars" in the latter half of the horus heresy series (54 main books).
One interesting detail while we're at him, supposedly someone switched where his pod would land upon with fulgrim's intended location. Big E expected Khan to turn traitor and was greatly surprised to see him side with him instead.
Big edit to add: this bit is taken directly from war40k wiki. "In truth, "sorcery" itself differs from other forms of psychic ability because it requires interacting and cutting deals for knowledge and/or power with the entities of the Warp in the pursuit of one's own selfish gain". While Blood Angels librarians did indeed break the edict, they didn't commit sorcery as defined as in the bit. They would not be the first nor last to do so for duration of horus heresy.
listening to this narration only shows you the scale of the tragedy the came with the heresy, all that big E acomplished ruined in a few years, so much dead marines, so much lost glories
Ah so the next video is gonna be about the World Eaters and Word Bearers taking a joy ride around the 500 worlds.
The Word Bearers still hold a grudge for the razing of Monarchia.
I can’t wait for the siege of Terra
Amazing work 👌🏾🔥
I'm sure other have stated this. The heresy isn't the origin(s) of chaos, that would be "the war(s) in heaven". This would be the origin of the chaos human faction that is in 40k
Can't wait for next ep. Tell me your doing the siege of terra ❤
11:22 is the closest we got to see a full on primarch v primarch animation. Yall just dont get what a historic moment that is yo
Don't worry there are a ton of already made p v p scenes in the lore drawn not by a mediocre DA like me but by masters, I know my place.
@@otgunz GIB SAUCE
you are too humble@@otgunz
Great video!
Im both surprised and not surprised that the Blood Angels part of the action turned out to be pretty epic!
Love your series!
Can’t wait for another episode
How is a story based upon toy soldiers giving me existential dread.
This feeling hasn’t left me since i discovered WH 40K last year.
lets go thx for the master piece
Well done!
When will the next alternate mongol invasion of europe video drop? It's been 7 whole months, the longest you guys ever took for an alternate history vid was 3 months, this is more than twice that.
I get that it's still in development but 7 whole months is crazy
Spolier the Invasion doesn't work out!
But come on dude, they are doing the best they can.
@@codysing1223 okay fine but don't you think it's a bit too long?
Also, how did you get the spoiler?
@@jamesdwayne7351 brother, imagine how much works goes into these, the fact we can watch there is a blessing.
And bro... Come on, there's books and other media about damn near everything.
The mongol invasion of Europe was very successful at first... But the Mongols couldn't siege these European Castles that were up in the mountains and surrounded by motes.
There are stories of Mongols who made it to France... I really hope we get to hear more about them.
They are tackling the Horus Heresy, the video with all the battles gonna be 24 hours lol
I’m finishing “Fear To Tread” right now. Ohhhhhhh Blood Angels, what’s the diff between the black rage and the 8 fold path?
Feels weird having a Blood Thirster of Khorne Casting a Spell.
You can be powerful while being bald, but only as a villain.
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Genghis Khan was the symbol of Life and Death.
Thus Jaghatai Khan also becomes the symbol of Life and Death (for his tragic poisonous and plagued corruption).
As Daemon Primarch of Nurgle he changes his title from Warhawk to Deathhawk!
Jaghatai Khan and White Scars as Nurgle's Legion, with small poisonous bone spikes, bringers of the plague storm (with Rotigus Rainfather at their side).
After each hunt and victory they dip the skulls in poison, in honor of Nurgle.
(They symbolize the more natural side of the God of Death)
These were some of the most crucial battles of the war as the loyalist space marine legions, isolated and outnumbered and ensnared in traps lay down by the enemy meant to destroy them. Managed to survive and escape the traps to live to fight another day and decisively intervene in the defence of Terra and defeat the heresy once and for all.
Lion "totally not a heretic, trust me bro" El'Jonson of the Dark "we're like sooo loyal bro" Angels...
"loyalty is its own reward"
Lol clearly you haven't read the heresy series huh? Guess you need to be spoon fed the nature of the character, since you're just regurgitating old lines.
Why is this 40k? This all Happened 10k years before all of 40k so the lores are not the same. But love what your doing here
I love that you keep on using that soundtrack. Sets the mood right off the bat. Love the series as well of course.
In regards to the Space Wolves and Alpha Legion, which Horus Heresy Books go over this?
it's split between Scars and Wolf King
Russ confrontation with Alpharius is in Burden of loyalty
Guys name is Sanguinius
Please give us the next one faster
like button isnt working but great video
Lmao why a fantasy war makes me so angry is beyond me but damm. So much could have been avoided infact this could have been an easy loyalist victory if not for stubbornness.
More 40k please
lol
Sang-win-e-us
not sang-win-us
great video though
Magnus is a good boy.
or maybe, perhaps he isn't? either way its just as planned.
What music is used for the horus heresy series! I need to sleep to this amazing soundtrack
Most of it was from the Mechanicus game soundtrack.
There are so many groups and names thrown around in the first 5 min alone that iam entirely lost already.
All these comments highlight most folks have not read the first 54 books of the Horus Heresy
Gonna be honest I gave up after 13 or so. I can't physically keep myself invested in a single hobby that long. Nothing against the series as a whole, there's some good books and bad books I read but they were mostly ok to get through.
Can you make history of the clone wars(22bby-19bby) and the new republic (5aby-35aby)?
Great video but it's honestly pretty impressive how many names you get wrong.
YES!!!!!
Sanguines Badass
Still wild to me no one was suspicious of Horus when his last name is Heresy👀
The Harris Heresy Warhammer 2k.
And the clone rebellion?
Can’t catch me I’m too fast
nice
Alpha legion doing Alpha legion things 😂
Horus Heresy:
When you forget to edit out Autism from your primarch gene-seed.
Well, a lot of this video is either outdated information or the author's interpretation of incomplete data. It assesses the actions of the Lion without taking into account the Ruinstorm and the fact that nobody knew if Terra still stood and if the Emperor was still alive. Hence the whole story with Imperium Secundus. And as for the motivations of Alpharius and Omegon, I don't believe there has been a definitive answer. We know one of them was manipulated by the Cabal to join Horus, and eventually turned on the Cabal and wiped them out. We also know that one of them was present at the Siege of Terra and was killed by Rogal Dorn.
Kyriss is with a hard Y, when you said kriss it sounds like some 25 yesr old dude hehe
love the lore but the way you say Sanguinius as a blood angels guy drives me crazy. Sanguinius, not Sanguinis.
Gentlepersons of Wizards and Warriors, this is the 123rd day I humbly submit for your consideration, a Fraggle Rock lore video.
Never heard of it
@@WizardsandWarriorsplease tell me the Mongols in Europe is next week?
Please give us hope😢
Truly, all hope in the world is lost; however, If you go watch it, be prepared to have your life completely changed for the better. @@WizardsandWarriors
😂never heard someone mispronounce the names of the Primarchs so much. Especially just disregarding the second "i" in Sanguinius.
moar 40k videos.
Why did the Emperor support a guy named Horus Heresy? Is he stupid?
Chaos is love. Worship Chaos and kill the false emperor
Happy backstabbing guys. My chaos god will love me lol
How is nearly every name in this video pronounced wrong.
Accent most likely
ok
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Please go slower -
You are burning through the heresy trying to make it to the siege of terra, but you are going to miss the chance to cover the heresy itself.
Sorry y'all but this lore is pretty dumb
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The more I learn about 40k the more I grow to like the White Scars. I loved studying about the Mongol empire so a Mongol themed Astartes Legion is a plus. Jaghatai also seems like a good Primarch and I like the attitude of the White Scars. I used to like the Dark Angels but Lion is a right dick.
Are you guys gonna continue the mongol invasion of western europe alt history series??
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