Thank You for the Great narration. Speed control for example. Overhead look at the table. Would like to see more player Q-ball cue tip contact shots from over the players shoulder. Each player has their own style. Always great to see. At 70 and playing daily. the sport intreags me after all these years.
At 58:45, LoreeJon stroked sideways causing here to add left English to the ball, causing the cueball to hit the nine thinner than she was lined up for. I have this bad habit also.
No offense to Mary, but Jean balukas was the women's pioneer. Notice the women Champs never bring up her name. That's because she was so good, she was beating men. Look her up. She was frighteningly good. The women, more or less, conspired to kick her off. Look up her comment that got her fined and she eventually told the wpba to fuck themselves. They hated her because she was a freak. A prodigy that actually grew into her talent.
@@janetairlines1351she snapped at the referee because her opponent kept hitting 9's on the break and said "...I don't mind losing to skill, but not luck" She was pissed because the racking and positioning was favoring 9 ball movement directly in on the break. I know if you are off a bit, you can make a nine readily. The comment is heard on the RUclips video and the other women complained to the league. She was fined and refused to pay. Her sponsors and others pleaded with her to let them pay it, but she refused. Wasn't the first time they complained about her, but it was about how she was so good, they didn't feel it was fair for her to play. It started to play on her mentally and she would be off from time to time, but noticeably being mentally bothered and not hampered by abilities. She was playing on the men's circuit and I believe reached the top 10. Ridiculous even in this day. She was giving mizerak and mosconi runs for their money. Fischer is the closest female player I've ever seen that is even close to Jean.
If you are allowed to would you Please answer this question ? ( Why won't filmmakers show the line of shots before the player shoots ? ) Some do but not many.
Many players now use multiple piece cues. Some have 4 or 5 pieces to them. This allows flexibility. Some even use a masse' shot on the break in order to confuse opponents.
It's thin plastic (Mylar), and has holes punched in it where the balls should be located for a tight rack. Since it's thin, it doesn't significantly interfere with balls rolling, and insures an accurate rack for both players, regardless of the condition of the cloth around the spot.
It would be nice that if broadcaster could label each ball with their respective number. Hard to engage the game if the viewer doesn’t know the next shot. ( if you are snooker player, you know what I’m talking about)
Why are there other tables playing without partitions? I mean these two are amazing but you get BS raffle ticket announcements in the middle??? Disappointing.
I would guess that they have played in so many environments that this is not much at all. I'm sure they can block out "crowd noise". It would flip me out!
THE greatest female pool player to ever walk planet earth...and her name IS NOT Jean Balukas!!! Her name is "The Duchess of Doom" Allison Fisher!!!🎱 The 🐐
@@jlobiafra I never said most popular means the best. Jeanette is better in my eyes simply because she is self taught. Allison on the other hand had training and classes and etc. Jeanette is better because she has ❤️. Allison has class training.
@@dontreldontrel416 jeanette lee was mentored by Gene Nagy so it's not like she's self taught. Anyway that's like saying someone who learned piano by themselves is better than a classical trained pianist
It's a scandal Allison Fisher has never won the BBC Sports Personality of the Year award. Her achievements in Snooker and Pool are phenomenal and yet she's been completely ignored. No doubt the BBC have decided no matter how brilliant you are at your chosen sport if you don't fit into their highly politicised, biased parameters, you won't get a nomination. Not many women have won the award, but the ones that have were clearly nominated by agenda not sporting achievements. Can you believe Zara Phillips won it in 2006 because she managed against all odds to fluke winning a horsing event. No doubt the BBC jumped at the chance to sycophantically suck up to the royal family that year.
I, I, I, I, ME, ME, ME, ME, ME ME! TALK! TALK! TALK! These "commentators" yak about everything but the match … and I don't care about what they may have done in another life! Comment on the game!
at 13.50 or so is she saying to have good speed you only need 2 inches of follow through for a total of 4 diamonds ,,,,, is the 4 diamonds the cueball distance to the rail plus the object ball to the pocket divided by 2 ? HAS ANYONE EVER HEARD OF THAT OR SEEN A VIDEO OR ARTICLE .......... I MEAN I KNOW SHE IS A WORLD CLASS PLAYER BUT 2 INCHES OF FOLLOW THROUGH SOUNDS IMPOSSIBLE
Mary says, "She plays with a pee-shower cue...". Fortunately, Kelly remains silent. Can't make this stuff up, folks...Pechauer makes a nice cue, tho...
The accu-rack definitely affected the position of the 9 ball on the first break. Those things are just a money-making gimmick and do nothing for the game.
Kevin Cowell true it did. but it provides a consistent rack at most tourneys that don't have a ref for every table, and solves allll the other issues that can arise when the players are either racking for themselves, or the opponent, with the triangle. i like a quality triangle too, so i hear ya though.
and u can buy knockoffs for $2.50 for ten on ebay, that do 8, 9 and ten ball racks, and are not cloth, like this accu rack.,.,and the balls need to be barely rolling to be affected by it, as they are super thin plastic.
LOREE KEEPS PLAYING TO KEEP EMBARRASSING HERSELF. LIKE WHEN LOREE PLAYED MIKE SIGEL. OMG FELT SO BAD, WHY DOES WOMAN LEAGUE HAVE SUCH SHORT MATCHES, RACE TO 7 OR RACE TO 9, SO SHORT, TOO SHORT
@@mejeremyb Oh I see your mistake. You're thinking if the game billards which is actually played with 15 balls. The game is won by sinking the 8 ball in a called pocket. A lot of people get confused about that.
@@mejeremyb In 9 ball you should always break very softly in order to try to place the cue ball behind one of the 15 solid colored red balls. This is known as a "combination shot". If your opponent cannot make a shot they are given the option of re-breaking the balls or being penalized a point. 9 ball was invented in Philadelphia in 1709. Today it is enjoyed in over 15 countries.
May didn't win tournaments through those years because she wasn't good enough. This woman is taking about herself like she's the efron Reyes of women's pool 😂😂 during the 80s there were about 20 women players... That's why She was in the top 20 lol. She isn't nearly as good as she making herself out to be, not was she. She's good, but she's like the howard Vickory to an efron reyes or Gary Wilson to a Ronnie O'Sullivan
Even in pool, we have to have a "women-only" association so that women can have a chance to win. Then they will whine about equal pay for equal work - although they did not do equal work or they could play anyone including men.
William Simmons Don't you know women are equal to men, amazing what idiots will buy into. Talk is cheap, and when it comes to results, women lose in most sports and games.
No they shouldn't just because they are women. If they want the same money then the tournaments should be "open" to both genders. But we both know that ain't gonna happen. The LPGA doesn't pay the same purses as the PGA because nobody comes to see the women play compared to the men. It's called a "return on your investment".
Thank You for the Great narration. Speed control for example. Overhead look at the table. Would like to see more player Q-ball cue tip contact shots from over the players shoulder. Each player has their own style. Always great to see. At 70 and playing daily. the sport intreags me after all these years.
Thank you, thank you, thank you for this post. I so do love to watch these matches especially if Allison is playing.
Thank you Loree Jon and Allison,, Way to go Allison... Best commentary work I have heard in a long time please keep up the good work lady....
Love to watch her play. Her podcasts are truly a pleasure to catch. Great personality.
Nice post.
Yes, she certainly is.
2 Classic Vets going at it. Love the Sport of Billiards. They should be showing highlights on SportsCenter
Amen, it's is better than Australian Football.
At 58:45, LoreeJon stroked sideways causing here to add left English to the ball, causing the cueball to hit the nine thinner than she was lined up for. I have this bad habit also.
I have the habit of just missing.
No offense to Mary, but Jean balukas was the women's pioneer. Notice the women Champs never bring up her name. That's because she was so good, she was beating men. Look her up. She was frighteningly good. The women, more or less, conspired to kick her off. Look up her comment that got her fined and she eventually told the wpba to fuck themselves. They hated her because she was a freak. A prodigy that actually grew into her talent.
What was the comment?
There doesn’t have to just be one pioneer.
@@janetairlines1351she snapped at the referee because her opponent kept hitting 9's on the break and said "...I don't mind losing to skill, but not luck"
She was pissed because the racking and positioning was favoring 9 ball movement directly in on the break. I know if you are off a bit, you can make a nine readily.
The comment is heard on the RUclips video and the other women complained to the league. She was fined and refused to pay. Her sponsors and others pleaded with her to let them pay it, but she refused. Wasn't the first time they complained about her, but it was about how she was so good, they didn't feel it was fair for her to play. It started to play on her mentally and she would be off from time to time, but noticeably being mentally bothered and not hampered by abilities. She was playing on the men's circuit and I believe reached the top 10. Ridiculous even in this day. She was giving mizerak and mosconi runs for their money.
Fischer is the closest female player I've ever seen that is even close to Jean.
Allison Fisher...THE greatest female pool player to ever walk planet earth...BAR NONE!!!
Balukas
@@jdstox1 Balukas???🤔
Without a doubt.
Except for Jean Balukas
@@bicd3244 Jean Balukas???🤔
Who is Jean Balukas, and what is her career stats???😩
PaLEEEEEEEEEEEZE!!!😝
If you are allowed to would you Please answer this question ? ( Why won't filmmakers show the line of shots before the player shoots ? ) Some do but not many.
I love Allison's follow through, she doesn't move until everything has stopped moving.
Thats a snooker player for you.
I recently patterned my stance after Allison's and I am shooting straighter than I ever have.
how can you go wrong with any of the Fisher's?
2 of the sexiest women to ever play. Both beautiful and talented.
Only ONE ! Loree Jon ! ....So beautiful and sexy
Real Truth
You have bad taste! That's the real truth.
@@Saracinderallasushis Ah now, to each his own. Your own words prove that.
@@hughbo52 to each his own, but these commentators are shit.
If this was 1992 lol
I haven’t heard the speed calculation before. Expand the explanation?
I'm interested, too. It's being discussed here: forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?p=6366481
Wow. Guessing Fisher is going to clean up. I love them both as players in their sports.
Many players now use multiple piece cues. Some have 4 or 5 pieces to them. This allows flexibility. Some even use a masse' shot on the break in order to confuse opponents.
These beauties and Emily in the background!
can someone explain to me what the deal is with the paper diamond that they lift up after each break?
That’s “Magic rack”
It's thin plastic (Mylar), and has holes punched in it where the balls should be located for a tight rack. Since it's thin, it doesn't significantly interfere with balls rolling, and insures an accurate rack for both players, regardless of the condition of the cloth around the spot.
2:15 I laughed for 5 minutes. Great insightful commentary!
FOLKS....WAS THERE EVER EVER ANY DOUBT WHO WOULD WIN THIS MATCH? NO
BUT TOTAL DOMINANCE IN A FINAL,.....OUCH!
@ 0:58,, that girl at the other table,she a pro?looks gorgeous
great match!!!
Allison Fisher must go to tournaments like how the hell could i possibly lose this.
was really hoping to listen to some 'Commentary' instead of 'Gossip'... struggled not to mute
It would be nice that if broadcaster could label each ball with their respective number. Hard to engage the game if the viewer doesn’t know the next shot. ( if you are snooker player, you know what I’m talking about)
They can't splurge for a 9-ball rack?
Y'all r great 🎱
U ladies r awesome 🎱
Pool is amazing 🎱🎱
Pool is wonderful 🎱🎱🎱
ALLISON FISHER is good 🎱🎱🎱
I grew up watching ALLISON FISHER shoot pool and the way she dominate the game of pool 🎱🎱🎱🎱🎱
Why are there other tables playing without partitions? I mean these two are amazing but you get BS raffle ticket announcements in the middle??? Disappointing.
I would guess that they have played in so many environments that this is not much at all. I'm sure they can block out "crowd noise". It would flip me out!
Two of the greatest players in the world, glad to see they are human and miss from time to time.
They are not two of the greatest.
NOT EVEN CLOSE.
This is like watching two amateurs play
I turned off the volume. The announcers talk about everything but the game we're watching!
They are more disruptive than helpful.
They need to quit yapping so damn much.
The stroke follow through diamond comment is interesting.
Ask Kelly a question, then talk over her answer, how rude and boring.
Just like yo momma
54:00 , 9 not on spot.
Great see classy women of all time
THE greatest female pool player to ever walk planet earth...and her name IS NOT Jean Balukas!!!
Her name is "The Duchess of Doom" Allison Fisher!!!🎱
The 🐐
Nope it's The Black 🕷️
@@dontreldontrel416 most popular doesn't mean the best. Allison is way better than jeanette. I like jeanette also and hope she pulls through. 😢
@@jlobiafra I never said most popular means the best. Jeanette is better in my eyes simply because she is self taught. Allison on the other hand had training and classes and etc.
Jeanette is better because she has ❤️. Allison has class training.
@@dontreldontrel416 jeanette lee was mentored by Gene Nagy so it's not like she's self taught. Anyway that's like saying someone who learned piano by themselves is better than a classical trained pianist
@@jlobiafra I think it's more of a vibe type of thing. We just respect The Black Widow vibe better... That's all... No shade..
I saw these 2 play in Vegas 2000 I think at the BCA open. Allison won on the hill.
Is Mary "nightsweat" Kinnison the voice of women's pool now??? I hear her every damn game...
She's great and loved
@@janetairlines1351 She's awful, and despised.
I can't stand her commentary. She's so freakin struck on herself. The only person I ever hear talk about how great she was is her.
@@janetairlines1351arrogant wind bag
She claims she's the pioneer. Jean balukas ran circles around her.
ohh I would love to see a female world snooker champion, no reason why a woman cant't beat a man at pool or snooker.
The Rocket.
She tried and got wrecked lol
iseeolly
Other than a lack of skill, and mental game, women should play snooker. Don't expect them to win against top men.
It's a scandal Allison Fisher has never won the BBC Sports Personality of the Year award. Her achievements in Snooker and Pool are phenomenal and yet she's been completely ignored. No doubt the BBC have decided no matter how brilliant you are at your chosen sport if you don't fit into their highly politicised, biased parameters, you won't get a nomination. Not many women have won the award, but the ones that have were clearly nominated by agenda not sporting achievements. Can you believe Zara Phillips won it in 2006 because she managed against all odds to fluke winning a horsing event. No doubt the BBC jumped at the chance to sycophantically suck up to the royal family that year.
I love excuses too
I, I, I, I, ME, ME, ME, ME, ME ME! TALK! TALK! TALK! These "commentators" yak about everything but the match … and I don't care about what they may have done in another life! Comment on the game!
Agree...yadda, yadda is distracting at very least, and annoying as hell.
Mary is the worst commentator. Probably why Ray left and let Kelli take over. Jeremy Jones is probably one of my favorite commentators.
These woman take awAy from the game with the dull commentary
They talk way too much!!!
@@mejeremybJeremy has that boring doctor voice lol. He's one of my least favorites. But least he commentates way better than he can play or coach
at 13.50 or so is she saying to have good speed you only need 2 inches of follow through for a total of 4 diamonds ,,,,, is the 4 diamonds the cueball distance to the rail plus the object ball to the pocket divided by 2 ? HAS ANYONE EVER HEARD OF THAT OR SEEN A VIDEO OR ARTICLE .......... I MEAN I KNOW SHE IS A WORLD CLASS PLAYER BUT 2 INCHES OF FOLLOW THROUGH SOUNDS IMPOSSIBLE
1:10:27 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Yeah, that was pretty funny!
Mary says, "She plays with a pee-shower cue...". Fortunately, Kelly remains silent.
Can't make this stuff up, folks...Pechauer makes a nice cue, tho...
Could be her jersey accent coming through.
😳👉 😂🤣😂
Why would you ever want to play Allison? You know you're going to lose
Just so I could watch her. It would be a pleasure just to be in her presence.
Mary needs to write a book.
Give Mary a break. She's 98 years old.
Awe they must have the first time jitters
Loree John good player
01:10:29 good!!!
It is so obvious they r into each other !
Get a room already !
WPBA and no 9-ball rack? Lol.
Where the fuck is fucking ball Boy ?
Flyin' solo - at least there's no one to interrupt, talk over, or argue with. Still, this commentator is just plain hard to take...
The accu-rack definitely affected the position of the 9 ball on the first break. Those things are just a money-making gimmick and do nothing for the game.
Kevin Cowell true it did. but it provides a consistent rack at most tourneys that don't have a ref for every table, and solves allll the other issues that can arise when the players are either racking for themselves, or the opponent, with the triangle. i like a quality triangle too, so i hear ya though.
and u can buy knockoffs for $2.50 for ten on ebay, that do 8, 9 and ten ball racks, and are not cloth, like this accu rack.,.,and the balls need to be barely rolling to be affected by it, as they are super thin plastic.
Kevin Cowell
Do nothing for the game? Are you stupid? Yes! They make for tight racks, over and over, and you can buy them for cheap.
@@Saracinderallasushis Whoa there, my friend, no need for name-calling, just a discussion about racking balls. :-)
Kevin Cowell
No sheep were hurt by the above comments.
Anyone can do this, all their shots are easy. When they miss, must be all that time in the barroom before the match.
Go to n.c and bet your savings account against allison. If she's feeling gracious, she might give you some money for dinner.
LOREE KEEPS PLAYING TO KEEP EMBARRASSING HERSELF. LIKE WHEN LOREE PLAYED MIKE SIGEL. OMG FELT SO BAD, WHY DOES WOMAN LEAGUE HAVE SUCH SHORT MATCHES, RACE TO 7 OR RACE TO 9, SO SHORT, TOO SHORT
Keep talking about yourself....not the game?
They're actually playing on what's known as a snooker table.
No they're not. They're playing on a 4.5x9 Diamond table. Snooker tables are 6x12.
@@mejeremyb Oh I see your mistake. You're thinking if the game billards which is actually played with 15 balls. The game is won by sinking the 8 ball in a called pocket. A lot of people get confused about that.
I didn't make a mistake. They're playing 9 ball.
@@mejeremyb In 9 ball you should always break very softly in order to try to place the cue ball behind one of the 15 solid colored red balls. This is known as a "combination shot". If your opponent cannot make a shot they are given the option of re-breaking the balls or being penalized a point. 9 ball was invented in Philadelphia in 1709. Today it is enjoyed in over 15 countries.
@@monerz1 you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.
Balukas ? Buucheet
May didn't win tournaments through those years because she wasn't good enough. This woman is taking about herself like she's the efron Reyes of women's pool 😂😂 during the 80s there were about 20 women players... That's why She was in the top 20 lol. She isn't nearly as good as she making herself out to be, not was she. She's good, but she's like the howard Vickory to an efron reyes or Gary Wilson to a Ronnie O'Sullivan
Masters? Come on.
Yeah I agree. We need more people promoting and being in the audience for these events.
Boring
Even in pool, we have to have a "women-only" association so that women can have a chance to win. Then they will whine about equal pay for equal work - although they did not do equal work or they could play anyone including men.
William Simmons
Don't you know women are equal to men, amazing what idiots will buy into. Talk is cheap, and when it comes to results, women lose in most sports and games.
Game 1.....exact reason nobody watches women's pool.
EastTexan
But they should get the same pay as top men pool players, just like the women's soccer team. Are you kidding me?
No they shouldn't just because they are women. If they want the same money then the tournaments should be "open" to both genders. But we both know that ain't gonna happen. The LPGA doesn't pay the same purses as the PGA because nobody comes to see the women play compared to the men. It's called a "return on your investment".
I can't believe all the shots they miss in the first rack only. And these are called the two best players ...The one who lost is at amateur level.