@@paul_my_plumbs_uk Yes, but he’s a plumber, it’s always going to come in at twice as much ! 😀. Really - properly impressed with what you all are doing both online and in the real world.
I'm not sure if I've ever clicked on a thumbnail so fast! Great work as always Robin and team, and outstanding video too, really nicely done. So jealous of that workshop!!!! ❤
Hi Robin, greetings form California. I’ve found you through Peter Millard and Matt Estlea. I’ll get stuck in catching up and following you going forward. You’re a rare, genuinely nice guy who puts in an honest day’s work and ABOVE the usual minimal efforts. Best wishes for great things in the future. Cheers, Tony ‘V’ All others following and watching, let’s tell our friends and family, getting Robin over 100,000 subs and let’s set a goal of 250,000 by year’s end and then reset for 500k in the fu;tire - he truly deserves it!!
Great little video, i actually really enjoy doing a bit of stud work and i can confirm that Tru stud is really good stuff!, its always baffled me that although in this country we started changing to the metric system in 1965 we still have our sheet material in imperial, oh but not flooring or plaster board...thats metric..bonkers!
OSB in imperial makes no sense to me. MDF and Melteca can still be advantageous because it gives some leeway if you use it for kitchens or wardrobes. A 1200 ripped in two leaves less than 600.
It's not really a problem having imperial OSB. You just set your studs at 24 inch centres. Especially if there's no metric plasterboard being fitted to the same walls👍🏻
I very much enjoyed watching this video after watching Matt's video. Thank you so very much for your help with Matt's new shop. Your are super awesome for everything you have done for him. I especially love how the both of you have nothing but great things to say about each other.
This is brilliant. Two very influential people to me working together. Carpentry is my day job but woodworking and furniture is my passion so watching you two working together is amazing.
Great to watch you get your head down and get into the zone. When i studied accountancy 30 odd years ago, I was taught that decisions/processes should be based on economy, efficiency and effectiveness. Your workflow demonstrates all 3 principles. Thank you for the content.
It was lovely to see the project from both sides. I adore your work years ago and also a big fan of Matt, it was a special surprise for this morning. :) Your work is fantastic!
Robin & Matt what treat two of the best RUclips content educational creators there are. I could of watch this in real-time. This is so nice to catch an eye on the new workshop. And how many jobs would you go to an every tools is ready and waiting that's a brucy bonus I bet.
Top job from a top man, love your work Robin. It was my childhood dream to be a joiner, two years into my apprenticeship i had to give up due to illness. 25 years on i still wish things had of been different, your channel is fantastic cant believe how far this trade has come on over the years. Keep up the great work
hi robin im a decorator and have worked on that many sites where the joiners are on price whack on the skirting and let the deccies sort out the gaps .the decorators that you work with are blessed to have you and your apprentice on there producing the quality finish that you do a true professional tradesmen well done
I'm a fan of Matt and if not for him I'd never of known about you being I'm from America but along with my love of woodworking I also love carpentry so I'm happy to sub to you as well! great work and I love your attitude! Great crew!
Excellent work Robin-I can’t believe you and your team did it all so quickly!! Everything is solid & looks wonderful. I’ve used that wood turning room and it’s lovely even without a door ☺️ Great collab!!
@@ukconstruction definitely an important issue. My pre carpenter days were spent in The Parachute Regiment so I have seen a lot of it. Everyone should feel free and able to ask for help. As they say “it’s good to talk”
Great to see these colabs with other RUclipsrs. First you brought to my attention Peter Millard and now this guy is added to my subscription, thank you very much robin
I’ve just watched this on both your channel and Matts, I thoroughly enjoyed this, I’m moving to my new workshop very soon and will stud it out to help insulate and soundproof it 👍🏼
Hey Robin. Coming over from Matt's channel. Very nice video and interview at the end. I am absolutely stunned by your calm and expressive speech. Very nice on the ears :D
Great craftsman you are robin. Great work mate when people like you retire the industry will struggle. You say your back to hang some doors on the next part of the video, whens the latch jig being put on general sale?
First time I've seen you use Bosch. I love my Bosch tools. What do you think of them? The Bosch mitre saw is a unique bit of kit. No slide rails. Glide arm design. No back clearance required
92 mm I section metal stud comes up a similar price as Tru stud, and also reusable so another option.I dont see the problem in this case with Imperial size OSB just work with Imperial measurements.Most wooden sheet materials are Imperial as they are made in the Philippines, Brazil and other countries for the US market. Good vid though got lots done 👍
Oooof in mainland Europe OSB comes in 2500x1250 have to cut every sheet, nightmare. The manufacturers and distributors don't seem to want to know either 😢
You should have doubled the head timber that supports the upper level floor. Or, at the very least, lined the floor beams up with the studs transfering load down to the floor. On a side note, i need to start using this stud. The last pack i used only had 50% usable straight stud.
Hi Stephen, the strength in the wall comes from the OSB sheathing that is fixed to the stud wall, a double header is overkill, I have been working with a timber frame engineer that has some amazing strength calculations with OSB clad walls and for the job this wall is doing it could have been up to 800 centres and 12mm OSB and that would have still eaten the loads, we tend to over build here and many structural engineers work on a safety factor of about 200%!! that covers variations in the skill of the craftsperson!!
@Robin Clevett thats really interesting. And it's good to know moving forward. It does make sense when you break it down. I must admit i am one for over engineering just to make sure, so it's why this stood out to me. I also didn't know if the stud also had a better strength rating. It is always good to keep learning. Love the channel, btw
@@ukconstruction I noticed some overkill on some of your vids. Your engineers are as over the top as ours since the Christchurch earthquake. No one want to be sued. We pay a high price to avoid occasional litigation. I think that as a society, we have become too risk averse. No wonder building is so expensive.
Now metric OSB could be a game changer, how often do you have to decide whether to set out for the OSB or the plasterboard, particularly on flat roofs. I've been using Trustud for quite a few years and it is so good for studwork BUT, it is expensive compared to sawn and treated, getting on for twice the price, so sometimes hard to justify. On a point of detail, I would call that bolted on plate a ledger, to me a pole plate is a wall plate which is fixed on top of the ceiling joists ready to take the rafters. Something else Robin, yesterday I picked up a few 3m lengths of 8x2 sawn and treated for a dormer header and I noticed that some of the lengths were finger jointed like the trustud, I've never seen that before.
With truestuds veneer style of join, is there any scale of caution you take in regards to how closely you cut to the join? I have plenty of experience with LVL materials but am extremely about any loss of material integrity.
Hi Robin great video again mate, probably a silly question but are you drilling pilot holes in the studs before you fix them in or are you going straight in with the screws?.
First time I used metric OSB I was WELL pissed off. I'd already built the stud work for 8 by 4. And if I remember, some of the OSB was actually 8 by 4, just to add to the frustration.
Had the opposite problem. Marked 400s, Got a sheet on, realised mistake and adjusted studs. Next day picked up another load of osb from a different supplier that came metric 😂😂
@@justkiddin1980whilst you were being slightly facetious, it's an interesting point. You could place them at 625 centres, but then that might fall foul of some regulation or other. 312.5 centres would seem ridiculous too (and expensive) as well as difficult to measure accurately. 500 centres would work nicely, laying the sheet on its side, but then you'd have very high ceilings if you weren't cutting. Interesting.
@@ricos1497 The 'easy' way to get around the regulations is to have a structural engineer do the calculations to determine what load can be supported by the metric sheets of OSB and studs on 625mm centres. It won't be much lower than the same thickness OSB and 24" centres (610mm). You would only need to do this once.
@@tlangdon12 absolutely, just a bit of extra work to go through. Fine if you're doing a large construction I suppose, but a little annoying just to get round a sheet good size.
Basically if you start 1.5mm of the centre line of a stud then pop a sheet on you will be 1.5mm off the centre line of the next joining stud giving the 3mm space between sheets, another way of thinking about it is, take a sheet hold the packer on the side and it will measure 1200 so effectively the size you need
As you would expect from a quality German powertool brand its very good!! Loads of power and good ergonomics with the great build quality that you would associate with @boschpowertools
@@ukconstruction just wanted to know your thoughts as you’ve used a wide range of powertools! I personally run festool, dewalt XR + flexvolt & Bosch & bi turbo stuff! Each manufacturer have certainly exiled in different areas! Just want to know what you thought compared to metabo, hikoki , hilti & makita gear u have ☺️
@@ukconstruction I recently bought the smallest (216mm) Bosch Professional mitre saw. It is a peace of crap. The blade wobble and drift are something to behold. I brought two of the back. On the third one now. Slightly better but not good.
Hey mate, do you guys core fill tour block? We do always and with steel. Also interesting to note that you had a single top plate with ceiling joists landing between studs. Not worried about compression? Thanks mate
Metabo won’t like this video nice to see some Bosch tools being used, 8ah procore in a impact driver is a recipe for a bad wrist them batteries are so heavy. True stud looks nice stuff
Hi Robin, great video as always. You mention using the same screw throughout; is it the 4.5 x 60mm Spax Wirox in the stud work? Are you pre-drilling each time?
As part of many rental agreements it is common to have to return the premises to its original layout meaning that everything will need dismantling so the screws allow this
Let’s get Robin’s channel over the 100k subscribers to show our appreciation for helping Matt
Thanks Chris!!! That would be amazing!!!
200k 😍😍😍📺📺📺
@@paul_my_plumbs_uk Yes, but he’s a plumber, it’s always going to come in at twice as much ! 😀. Really - properly impressed with what you all are doing both online and in the real world.
Legend Chris, thank you!
Honestly can’t believe he hasn’t go 500k + tbh one of the top trades channels on YT
I'm not sure if I've ever clicked on a thumbnail so fast! Great work as always Robin and team, and outstanding video too, really nicely done. So jealous of that workshop!!!! ❤
Thanks Keith!!!!!!
Hi Robin, greetings form California. I’ve found you through Peter Millard and Matt Estlea. I’ll get stuck in catching up and following you going forward. You’re a rare, genuinely nice guy who puts in an honest day’s work and ABOVE the usual minimal efforts. Best wishes for great things in the future. Cheers, Tony ‘V’
All others following and watching, let’s tell our friends and family, getting Robin over 100,000 subs and let’s set a goal of 250,000 by year’s end and then reset for 500k in the fu;tire - he truly deserves it!!
Love you already Tony!!!!!!!
All I can say is, Mr Clevett, you are a legend. My Dad taught me years ago, the man that loves his job never works a day.
What your Dad told you was absolutely true!! Thank you for your comment !!!
@ukconstruction he can be pain, but is normally right lol... Bugger I hope he doesn't see this 🤣🤣🤣.
Great little video, i actually really enjoy doing a bit of stud work and i can confirm that Tru stud is really good stuff!, its always baffled me that although in this country we started changing to the metric system in 1965 we still have our sheet material in imperial, oh but not flooring or plaster board...thats metric..bonkers!
OSB in imperial makes no sense to me. MDF and Melteca can still be advantageous because it gives some leeway if you use it for kitchens or wardrobes. A 1200 ripped in two leaves less than 600.
Imperial is for carpentry and metric is for joinery, that's my tuppence worth, 👍🔨🇮🇪
@@Toyotaamazon80series That makes sense only if you slowly and reluctantly inch your way towards the metric system.
So good seeing 2 of my favourite creators working together! We need more of these crossovers in future
It's not really a problem having imperial OSB. You just set your studs at 24 inch centres. Especially if there's no metric plasterboard being fitted to the same walls👍🏻
I very much enjoyed watching this video after watching Matt's video. Thank you so very much for your help with Matt's new shop. Your are super awesome for everything you have done for him. I especially love how the both of you have nothing but great things to say about each other.
This is brilliant. Two very influential people to me working together. Carpentry is my day job but woodworking and furniture is my passion so watching you two working together is amazing.
Great to watch you get your head down and get into the zone. When i studied accountancy 30 odd years ago, I was taught that decisions/processes should be based on economy, efficiency and effectiveness. Your workflow demonstrates all 3 principles. Thank you for the content.
Its about time all our sheet goods were proper metric
They are ...if you convert then from Imperial !!😂
@@jimosullivan1389 Hmmmmm
It was lovely to see the project from both sides. I adore your work years ago and also a big fan of Matt, it was a special surprise for this morning. :)
Your work is fantastic!
Robin & Matt what treat two of the best RUclips content educational creators there are. I could of watch this in real-time. This is so nice to catch an eye on the new workshop. And how many jobs would you go to an every tools is ready and waiting that's a brucy bonus I bet.
One of the best true carpenters around
Top job from a top man, love your work Robin. It was my childhood dream to be a joiner, two years into my apprenticeship i had to give up due to illness. 25 years on i still wish things had of been different, your channel is fantastic cant believe how far this trade has come on over the years. Keep up the great work
hi robin im a decorator and have worked on that many sites where the joiners are on price whack on the skirting and let the deccies sort out the gaps .the decorators that you work with are blessed to have you and your apprentice on there producing the quality finish that you do a true professional tradesmen well done
Thank you Paul!
fantastic video Robin, nice to see the younger generation having passion and pride in what they 😃😃👍👍
I'm a fan of Matt and if not for him I'd never of known about you being I'm from America but along with my love of woodworking I also love carpentry so I'm happy to sub to you as well! great work and I love your attitude! Great crew!
Thank you Michael!!
Two of the nicest guys on RUclips. Well done, boys.
Thansk Rob, that's kind!!
Good stuff Robin. You boys can certainly knock out a quality job
haven't had the opportunity to view your videos lately but so glad I did today, reminding me how much I get from them. Thanks Robin.
Thanks Jude
Excellent work Robin-I can’t believe you and your team did it all so quickly!! Everything is solid & looks wonderful. I’ve used that wood turning room and it’s lovely even without a door ☺️ Great collab!!
Thank you Sara!!! Well Matt is a top guy and I'm super happy to work with him!!
You are Matts Sara!!!!
That try stud is so interesting. I love getting hold of metric osb, not very common where I am!
Brilliant info on the expansion gaps too.
I don’t think there’s a better carpenter on RUclips. Amazing work ethic and so talented !
Thats so kind!!
Instant subscriber after watching you and your team work on Matt’s shop. Great work. He needed the help haha. Great set of videos you have here!
Welcome and thank you Pat!!
Would be good to see a video, going over scale drawings etc setting out from the plan.
Nice to see the old fella giving the youngsters a run for their money.
Your work on Matt Estlea's workshop is fantastic. What a brilliant start for him.
Robins hit the big time. BBC1 prime time tv. Good work mate
It's a really important issue, I was glad to help the BBC and Nick Knowles, thanks for your message mate
@@ukconstruction definitely an important issue. My pre carpenter days were spent in The Parachute Regiment so I have seen a lot of it. Everyone should feel free and able to ask for help. As they say “it’s good to talk”
Brilliant! Cant wait to see some nice videos from Matt in this new workshop!
Great job Rob!
Great to see these colabs with other RUclipsrs. First you brought to my attention Peter Millard and now this guy is added to my subscription, thank you very much robin
What a fantastic job; well done.
Best of luck to in your new business.
💂♂️🇬🇧
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I am here from Matt Estlea...Great content. Cheers from Canada (Ottawa).
Absolutely awesome friendship and great coupling of skills. Wish you gents could work more together!
As a builder sometimes i love doing jobs that are out of the mud and elements and doing inside work...well done guys
great work and steady smooth video of grafting which is exactly what people in the our industry need to see and learn from.
👌
This is real brotherly stuff right here, great work, great attitude, well done gents...
Robin makes it look so easy! That would take me a month! Great job
Nice to see a bit of a change of pace with work flying up at and the details still put in over the top. Great video
Great job and enjoyed watching the same thing twice on two different channels from slightly different perspectives 🙂
I'm here from Matt's channel 🎉
Robin, a great project and an enjoyable video. Thanks.
Nice Job Robin !!!! 😊😊😊😊😊😇😇😇😇😇😇
Much better looking Thum nail Robbin, looks cleaner than the bright colours 👌
I've started to follow you after this work with Matt!! Great to land in your channel!
Thank you Andres!!!
I use one of the Stanely Folding Pocket Knives (0 10 598) as a marking knife for onsite work. Small, very sharp and has an extra blade in the handle.
Robin I know it's not revenant but have you ever used a ticking stick? just watched it being used and what a simple idea that helps
Great to see two of my favourite youtubers in the same video...all thats missing from my top 3 is Mr Furze!
I will see if Colin has got any carpentry work that he needs!!
Great work Robin 👍
Just found you, in Matt's shop build! So excited to find another woodwork / building channel!! Looks like I'll be binge watching to catch up!! Cheers!
Thanks Mishelle!!
Congratulations on reaching 100k Robin!
Thank you Samantha!!
Could you do a video on making a bookcase? A wall to wall one? thanks!
Awesome work lads. Great to watch.
That Bosch miter saw looks a beast
It's good!!
I’ve just watched this on both your channel and Matts, I thoroughly enjoyed this, I’m moving to my new workshop very soon and will stud it out to help insulate and soundproof it 👍🏼
Hey Robin. Coming over from Matt's channel. Very nice video and interview at the end. I am absolutely stunned by your calm and expressive speech. Very nice on the ears :D
I envy how good he is in front of a camera 😂
Really great video Robin! Impressive work 👏
Tue-stud, reminds me of my old college nickname...
Great craftsman you are robin. Great work mate when people like you retire the industry will struggle. You say your back to hang some doors on the next part of the video, whens the latch jig being put on general sale?
Great works lads.
Another job well done 👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿
Great camerawork.
Well done!
Instant subscriber…You absolute “stud”!!!!
geweldig om te kijken
Found you’re channel thru Matt Estla. Subscribed.
Thank you Tim
Rarely see a workshop that size in the uk. Must cost a fortune!?
First time I've seen you use Bosch. I love my Bosch tools. What do you think of them? The Bosch mitre saw is a unique bit of kit. No slide rails. Glide arm design. No back clearance required
I recently bought the smallest (216mm) Bosch Professional mitre saw. Peace of crap. The blade wobble and drift is something to behold.
The irony is that had Robin and co used CLS stud work from any of the big DIY sheds, they'd have been as bent as the floor!
92 mm I section metal stud comes up a similar price as Tru stud, and also reusable so another option.I dont see the problem in this case with Imperial size OSB just work with Imperial measurements.Most wooden sheet materials are Imperial as they are made in the Philippines, Brazil and other countries for the US market. Good vid though got lots done 👍
Brill, thanks for the update
Oooof in mainland Europe OSB comes in 2500x1250 have to cut every sheet, nightmare. The manufacturers and distributors don't seem to want to know either 😢
Ply and OSB is manufactured in North and South America. South America is largely metric but its main customer is the North
Funny how Scotland and England can be so different. Since moving back home many years ago, we've never dealt with anything but metric.
You should have doubled the head timber that supports the upper level floor. Or, at the very least, lined the floor beams up with the studs transfering load down to the floor.
On a side note, i need to start using this stud. The last pack i used only had 50% usable straight stud.
Hi Stephen, the strength in the wall comes from the OSB sheathing that is fixed to the stud wall, a double header is overkill, I have been working with a timber frame engineer that has some amazing strength calculations with OSB clad walls and for the job this wall is doing it could have been up to 800 centres and 12mm OSB and that would have still eaten the loads, we tend to over build here and many structural engineers work on a safety factor of about 200%!! that covers variations in the skill of the craftsperson!!
@Robin Clevett thats really interesting. And it's good to know moving forward. It does make sense when you break it down. I must admit i am one for over engineering just to make sure, so it's why this stood out to me. I also didn't know if the stud also had a better strength rating. It is always good to keep learning. Love the channel, btw
@@ukconstruction I noticed some overkill on some of your vids. Your engineers are as over the top as ours since the Christchurch earthquake. No one want to be sued. We pay a high price to avoid occasional litigation. I think that as a society, we have become too risk averse. No wonder building is so expensive.
If boarding studwork with sheet wood, just get 2440x1220 sheets and do 16" centres.
yes but then metric plasterboard will not work without waste
@@ukconstruction but we're talking sheet wood
Now metric OSB could be a game changer, how often do you have to decide whether to set out for the OSB or the plasterboard, particularly on flat roofs.
I've been using Trustud for quite a few years and it is so good for studwork BUT, it is expensive compared to sawn and treated, getting on for twice the price, so sometimes hard to justify.
On a point of detail, I would call that bolted on plate a ledger, to me a pole plate is a wall plate which is fixed on top of the ceiling joists ready to take the rafters.
Something else Robin, yesterday I picked up a few 3m lengths of 8x2 sawn and treated for a dormer header and I noticed that some of the lengths were finger jointed like the trustud, I've never seen that before.
If they're finger jointed it's called KVH Timber, it's all the rage in Germany.
Interested to know how many hours you did each day. Cracking job super quick as well
About 9
Love the video, New name for you Robin Rocket, what chop-saw where you using pros,cons. Is there a longer version of the video
Nice video for a Sunday morning Robin. I’d love to work for you.
OSB skirting would be the finising touch. Ogee I think. 😂
If you can't get metric OSB use imperial spaces, 48" × 96" (4ftx8ft)
With truestuds veneer style of join, is there any scale of caution you take in regards to how closely you cut to the join?
I have plenty of experience with LVL materials but am extremely about any loss of material integrity.
Matt Estlea sent me!
Welcome!
Hi Robin great video again mate, probably a silly question but are you drilling pilot holes in the studs before you fix them in or are you going straight in with the screws?.
Great viewing 👏👏👏
First time I used metric OSB I was WELL pissed off. I'd already built the stud work for 8 by 4. And if I remember, some of the OSB was actually 8 by 4, just to add to the frustration.
Had the opposite problem. Marked 400s, Got a sheet on, realised mistake and adjusted studs.
Next day picked up another load of osb from a different supplier that came metric 😂😂
Subscribed, should have done it long ago 👍👍
Here in Eastern Europe the OSB is an odd size 2500 x 1250, a pain if using on 400 / 600 stud work.
Just place your studs accordingly…Measure twice/thrice cut once..😜
@@justkiddin1980whilst you were being slightly facetious, it's an interesting point. You could place them at 625 centres, but then that might fall foul of some regulation or other. 312.5 centres would seem ridiculous too (and expensive) as well as difficult to measure accurately. 500 centres would work nicely, laying the sheet on its side, but then you'd have very high ceilings if you weren't cutting. Interesting.
@@ricos1497 The 'easy' way to get around the regulations is to have a structural engineer do the calculations to determine what load can be supported by the metric sheets of OSB and studs on 625mm centres. It won't be much lower than the same thickness OSB and 24" centres (610mm). You would only need to do this once.
@@tlangdon12 absolutely, just a bit of extra work to go through. Fine if you're doing a large construction I suppose, but a little annoying just to get round a sheet good size.
Awesome
Is tru-stud finger jointed ?
Yes Keith
If the sheets come in 3mm under, then you should use a 6mm packer shouldn’t you?
Basically if you start 1.5mm of the centre line of a stud then pop a sheet on you will be 1.5mm off the centre line of the next joining stud giving the 3mm space between sheets, another way of thinking about it is, take a sheet hold the packer on the side and it will measure 1200 so effectively the size you need
Cheers. Great video
How did you & team of your men enjoy getting a good use of Bosch powertools? Yous had a good range of gear there!
As you would expect from a quality German powertool brand its very good!! Loads of power and good ergonomics with the great build quality that you would associate with @boschpowertools
@@ukconstruction just wanted to know your thoughts as you’ve used a wide range of powertools!
I personally run festool, dewalt XR + flexvolt & Bosch & bi turbo stuff! Each manufacturer have certainly exiled in different areas! Just want to know what you thought compared to metabo, hikoki , hilti & makita gear u have ☺️
@@ukconstruction I recently bought the smallest (216mm) Bosch Professional mitre saw. It is a peace of crap. The blade wobble and drift are something to behold. I brought two of the back. On the third one now. Slightly better but not good.
Hi Robin, what sleeve anchors did you use for this job?
12 x 130mm. The 12mm is the size of the treaded rod internally and we use larger drill bit for the sleeve, from memory it's either 14mm or 16mm!!
Hey mate, do you guys core fill tour block? We do always and with steel. Also interesting to note that you had a single top plate with ceiling joists landing between studs. Not worried about compression? Thanks mate
Metabo won’t like this video nice to see some Bosch tools being used, 8ah procore in a impact driver is a recipe for a bad wrist them batteries are so heavy. True stud looks nice stuff
Well I did at least have my Metabo top on!! nice one Mark, hope your well mate
Hi Robin, great video as always. You mention using the same screw throughout; is it the 4.5 x 60mm Spax Wirox in the stud work? Are you pre-drilling each time?
Not with these screws, they rarely cause any splitting especially in the TruStud
How did you find the Bosch tools robin compared to what you usually use
Great German technology and yep they all worked really well, it is a really strong range of tools!!
Why screws over nails?
As part of many rental agreements it is common to have to return the premises to its original layout meaning that everything will need dismantling so the screws allow this