He only gotten serious in the TOP (Tournament of Power) arc, the Goku Black/Zamasu arc, and in the one of the beginning arcs where Frieza comes back to life for revenge, but on the other arcs he was just an idiot. No wonder why Vegeta hated Goku so much. Oh yeah cause Goku's an idiot.
Really lol. Don’t y’all understand this is rip off Superman English dub goku. REAL GOKU aka Japanese dub, in this exact scene said “Now that I’m a ssj4, you’re heat ability don’t work on me” meaning he’s only focused on the fight. Not on being THe HoPE OF ThE UniVERSe. liGHt IN ThE DarKNeSS bs
1:48 "Goku has laid down the law. But can he take the heat? Having started the battle exhausted and depleted of energy, how long can he push himself to the limit before he runs out of gas completely. Don't miss the next GT." This narrator is godlike.
@@xsorakazamax7522 cell was never honorable. He had all the powers of all the z fighters and then still wanted to absorb the androids to get stronger. He never used his own power
Ssj4: a transformation reminiscent of a saiyan's true nature, interesting design and clearly not a rehash of the prior super saiyan forms Ssb: haha lets dye the hair blue
SSG: Lets make his hair red SSR: Dye it pink! Ultra Instinct: make some hair wave up! Super Saiyan Rage: put sum blue in it Legendary Super Saiyan: give muscles and green hair Controlled Super Saiyan Beserk: lose muscles keep hair Super Saiyan Blue kaioken: mix blue and red X10 SSB Kaioken: Make hair white and put more red X20 SSB kaioken: lets reuse regular SSB kaioken Mastered UI: hehe make it jizz colored Beserk: broly nigga Super Vegeta/Trunks: longer hair more muscle.
I'll be honest, in GT, Vegeta and Goku did have the most character development, Goku wanting to protect the planet that had adopted him for so long, and Vegeta at the right time, willing to put his pride aside during a tough fight, which I admit most noticeable part of that was in the shadow dragons arc when he admitted that he and Goku would get killed by Omega Shenron even at Ssj4 and even having the idea to fuse. The new characters like baby were an interesting concept, and the consequences of abusing the DragonBalls was so surprising that it made me want to see more of what would happen. Cause in the dragonball they always make them revive all the people of earth after a tough battle. It was getting too predictable and the shadow dragons did add a final finish to the series. Because even though life goes on, unfortunately some good things must come to an end, to bring forth something else for the next generation. I believe that was the intention of GT ending DragonBall.
@Rubber Balloon Lover yeah, just do that they can get more character development again. The same way, which I'd just lazy writing. I do wish that they could have approached it differently but there's nothing that we can do.
@@milomhlongo9781 In fact, recently in Super, Bulma used the Dragon Balls to WISH for a bigger ass AND to look younger. Yes, possibly the smartest character in the ENTIRE franchise wasted the power of the Eternal Dragon just for the sake of her own vanity! I WISH I was bullshitting.
@@milomhlongo9781 Alright, yes. Back in the original Dragon Ball, she was only trying to find them (& enlisting Goku's help to do so) just so she can bag herself a boyfriend. To be fair, she wasn't an adult yet at the time.
DBS goku is dumber. DBS animation is worse than gt's. And in gt you know the villains origins, how they got so strong. In dbs jiren is strong because yes, they don't even explain.
+Lord Cooler Ssj4 is actually way cooler and...unique? unlike ssg which is...well base goku with red hair and Ssb/ssr which is Ssj with blue and pink hair Ssj4 actually looks badass and alot of people agree
+Lord Cooler Yeah, exactly. I may be colorblind, but I know the difference between pink and red when I see em lol. And ssjg is definitely pink if anything between the two. And I have to agree with sonicgamer 45 as well: ssj4 looks way more unique among all the transformations, while ssjg really does look like base goku just with pink hair. Personally, my favorites are LSSJ Broly and SSJ3 Goku. Also really like SSJR Goku Black.
Man I miss the days when Goku actually cared less about taking on strong opponents and being a bunch-happy moron and more about protecting the planet he called home. To me, he was the definition of a hero. He got knocked on his ass plenty of times, and he accepted defeat at times, but he always got back up, regardless of the stakes. And when he achieved Super Saiyan 4, I thought, this is it, he is unbeatable by this point. And no one can deny Super Saiyan 4 is an absolute gem of a transformation compared to what we've gotten in Super. SSGod, SSBlue, UI, and MUI, are all fine if you've never watched GT, but to those of us who have gotten the chance to experience the joy of DB, DBZ, and DBGT, Super Saiyan 4 makes all of the transformations in Super look pathetic by comparison.
GT >>>>> Super It’s a true end to dragonball… poetic almost. Whereas super is basically just a cash grab. Definitely not the least I have to say about GT and super… and I’m not saying I like nothing about super, but I’m not gonna write some dissertation or anything
As someone who has followed the show since the original Dragonball, DBS made it all way too confusing. SSG, SSB, UI and MUI.. There's no clear power scale. If you've only seen two or three episodes of Dbz, yet someone tells you there's SS1, SS2, SS3 and SS4 if you include GT, the power development becomes understandable SSG --> SSB isn't as clear. How can SS God be weaker than SS Blue?
Goku was always primarily interested in fighting strong opponents, and has put the planet at risk to do so. He was never a superhero or the light of the universe or anything like that, except in the dub and in Toei's productions, which Toriyama hated for being too sentimental.
Panther Prince Also Nouva, Eis, Syn, and Omega Plus Baby, final shine, new clothes for vegeta and goku, gogeta SSJ4, majuub, super 17, goku and vegeta jr, awesome fights, dragon Fist, and pretty much every new attack, major villain and transformation GT could've been amazing
Djames , I wouldn't go that far It had a lot of awesome ideas and concepts that were overshadowed by a rushed and crappy plot and shitty ideas and concepts
GokuInfintysaiyan super has awful animation, terrible retcons, and Retarded plot armor super has been trash since the beginning it hasnt even had a good arc yet
sonicgamer 45 dude I got what u got along with buuhan, super vegito, godtenks,omega str and phy,gogeta ssj4,Goku ssj4 undokkaned, and Vegeta ssj4 dokkan Awaken and merged zamasu,and many LR piccolo.
Goku looks like a straight up beast when he's SSJ4. Mainly because the roots of his Saiyan blood are unleashed and he's more into fighting than the other Super Saiyan forms
@@3gxerF-ty78Gubs-46gya Vegeta and Gogeta had short scenes here so it isn’t like they were not more aggressive. We just weren’t given lots of time to see them that way
@@leultrainstinct406 you don’t pay attention He could lift the building he has to control his power because the building is fragile and he could very easily caused more damage Superman sometimes has problems with planes
1:06 Nova: And now that I've raised the stakes it's your turn it's time to ante up or fold Goku: Fold no chance of that I'll see you and I'll raise you
@@supbrah4155 Super gets hell of hate, idk what you're talking about. People talk shit about the animation, forms, arcs, characters and basically everything the show has
GT is actually a little low-key underrated. Wasn't that bad of a saga at all. In fact I'm willing to bet there are a lot of people out there that actually think it's the best saga.
Baby arc is overall good from like 16 th episode , Super 17 meh , shadow dragon arc decent . It was overall enjoyable and very memorable as a part of dragon ball .
GT: Well, DBZ was all about turning your hair yellow. Let's change it up a bit for the next level, and utilize a part of his past in the great ape as a piece for this newer transformation. DBS: ummmmmm let's make it blue........
Frezia: This is my Golden for- Krillen: Nova did it Frezia: ....?? Krillen: the gold thing, nova did it Frezia: Give me a minute *quickly goes to 2nd form to stab krillen then goes back into place as gold form* Ok where were we *krillen ownage count: 47*
THIS is the BEST Form ever in dragonball history. Canon or Not it will always be the best Forever!!! Uncanon and still a loved form. No form will ever be even half as good as this one. Cry about it Ultra Instinct!! And your fans can cry too.
Goku: "Fold? No chance of that, I'll see you and I'll raise you." You telling me that he hasn't gone to a single day of school and knows almost nothing about math, but he knows how to play cards?
asijsm Haha, okay and Super Saiyan God's design is so much more original... It's basically Goku with red hair. That form was a joke considering it couldn't even get Goku to be Beerus!
So nobody's going to talk about how my man casually just bust a crater in the ground just standing there after the power up. Ssj4 is no joke on arrival. Idk what this new shit we got going on is. Memories. 💪
They’ve been blowing up the moon since dragon ball. Looking at these old episodes makes me realizes how low quality this is compared to myself as a child liking it. Even Gogeta had awful animation.
I love how GT is getting the Spiderman 3 treatment where it upset fans in the beginning and now it's cherished due to the characters being true to the lore vs what Super did.
Exactly. GT was not popular because the characters actually developed while in Super well they just take the characters' most memorable traits and krabk it to 100... Vegeta being a sour puss, Goku loves to fight, etc.
If Dragon Ball Super had come out back in 1996, when Buu Saga ended, everyone would have said it's the ultimate shit, and if GT had come out in 2015, everyone would be talking about how much of an improvement it is over Dragon Ball Super in every way - the animation, music, and story.
For me SSJ4 will always be the true SSG. It just seems weird to make an entire species gain their strength from their badass ancestry and then just... throw it away for fancy hair dye and label them a god.
@Raja Thyagaraj WHAT Thé SHET Are You TALKING MAYER Thé SSJGOD Is Maybe NOT Strong Enough to the New Broly BUT He Is STRONG ENOUGH to Compete with A God So Shut Up Please 😧
Not only do the god transformations keep the lore, but they expand on it. Ssjg was achieved with 5 pure hearted saiyains. It’s way more impactful and thematic because it shows that the saiyains entire culture and ways of gaining power, was wrong. True saiyain power comes from being pure hearted/calm, instead of being ruthless savages. It’s the perfect representation of how far goku and vegeta’s characters have grown, along with the surviving saiyains. It just works better. Not to mention, they have more unique capabilities and quirks. Not just a stolen move from DBZ movie 13, and no transformation flaws to overcome. It’s too easy. God forms take actual work and effort, as well as character growth.
Super saiyan 4 is the most badass form because it returns to origins black hair, fur and tail, that is the most awesome design choice for super saiyan 4.
Don't have to know how to play poker to know what it means. It's an overused cliche at this point. Would be even more surprising if someone didn't know what it meant, honestly.
1:38- Why GT Goku >>>> Super Goku. One word: priorities. Super Goku: Watches Zeno erase entire universes and just stands by and does nothing GT Goku: Refuses to see Earth turned into a wasteland and steps it up to max power to take his enemy down.
Are you fucking dumb? You do realize that Zeno is basically Their God in their universe he can literally be wiped out in the blink of an eye if Zeno wanted to. Jeez these fucking super haters always trying to find reasons to hate on super.
Hahahahah lloks someone only knows trash funimation dub of superman goku. Goku isnt a hero. Hes a guy who loves to fight. TORIYAMA already made comment like this saying goku wasnt syluppose to be this hero type character in the first place and was dissappointed in Toei for doing that but funimation old trash dub took it to a higher level. Super goku is just how goku is
Even if it's not accurate to the character, I seriously miss the "Super Hero" Goku from the Z/GT days. That's just the Goku that I grew up with. It's the Goku that I know. And hell it's not even that the Funimation Dub made him this way, he had moments in the Japanese Dub too when he seemed a little more heroic. He was definitely way more serious though. Super really ruined Goku for me.
@@xnortheast1106 yh it's the writer fault Goku has his regression in character for example Random Goku had strong sense of urgency in dragon ball days where he kill dangerous foe and he willing to spare the greatest evil ever witness Moro
Lmao I see you’re infected by the fake Superman English dub goku disease. In this exact scene, goku doesn’t mention anything about earth. He beat says, “now that I’m a ssj4 you’re heat won’t work on me” Japanese dub was more heroic? Lolll so you’re just gonna forget that he spared the dude who killed his friends, just for a rematch? Not from the kindness of his heart, but for a rematch? Or how, despite bulma coming up with a plan to stop the androids from ever appearing, goku ignored the plan and decided to fight them because “it’d be a challenge”. Hands down, that was the most selfish thing goku ever did. So Don’t hate super for keeping something that was always apart of goku’s character.
I loved how he did hold off but once he goes SJJ4 even with the "brotherly" interruption this whole fight, scenario, etc, is amazingly well handled. Made better by the ending disruption, semi-ressurection, etc. Things went full insane mode from here on to the last episode. And it wasn't as if some previous fights weren't good or fun, though if some others had been there to fight it would've been more interesting (like Videl whom gets all battle ready and has way better look in GT but then doesn't get to do anything for example, but also would've been nice to see adult Gotenks). I think overall I liked the baby saga better, but this saga's concept/story is better and the caring about the 4-star ball plot really showed they cared (plus dragon fist from probably the best dbz movie that GT pre-Z battle of gods was fine with saying were canon, better days).
Ss4 is awesome. One of the best moments was near when the form first came out and Goku was walking forward toward the enemy and disappearing in the middle of his steps. Also getting impaled through the leg by omega shenron when he first appeared and still maintaining ss4 while hanging from some amusement park beam, upside down lol Then of course timing a blast through the atmosphere into space perfectly to force the ship into the sun. Theres too many badass goku moments with ss4 im sure theyre listed here in other comments Most of all it's all still within realistic limits of Dragonball. There's no "flex one ab muscle and destroy a galaxy" level absurdity. Super has brought shame, and I went in with nostalgia glasses obviously. I tried multiple times. It just doesn't click. Nothing really does anymore.
Shame... Even DBGT gave me chills and Tension at times. DBS is just plain simple & kinda corny. Not hating on DBS, I'm just saying they need to step they game up big time.
when u think about it the unviere is NOT at stake. we know goku n friends r around during the time of UUB. so ..yeah no tension. we know who fucking wins the tournament of power.
super literally has a tone of "goku is alive fighting uub years later. so nobody here is in risk of dieing"...yeah so much tension XD beerus burns his hands on a ramen cup, he cant take nova's heat.
Mike Jones I remember being looked at weird because I actually liked Gt and if I dare said that a few years back I’d get roasted in the comment section. Now if I say “I like Gt” I’d probably get people saying “yeah me too”
@@Mike_Jones281 they made Goku in to an absolute moron. A notable example is when he forgot the sensu beans and the charm for the “Evil Containment” move in the Zamasu arc. Goku would prepare days ahead of the actual fight using everything in his power arsenal to bring the foe. Now he just wants to fight strong enemies without knowing the downsides of what will happen. Remember the tournament of power? The literal time Goku almost fucking destroyed the universe, let alone get others deleted because of his silly idea of a tournament of power? This Goku is not the Goku I know. The forms in super are pretty generic. SSGBis just a repaint of SSJ1. Meanwhile SSG is just a glorified base form. Say what you want. GT Goku is better than the moron we have today.
Super’s artwork and animation FAR surpasses GT’s. I mean the last episode of super alone shits on all of gt combined lol. I prefer ssb with a badass aura, fully a fleshed out concept, and unique abilities, vs. a ssjF(Super saiyain furry) with the same old yellow aura, shallow form with no difference stages, and the only unique ability is a stolen move from DBZ movie 13. Also, super’s fights are superior. The villains. The arcs. The world building. And most of all, characters not named goku actually get character development and moments to shine. Whereas in GT, it’s goku time all the time.
Hope in one hand, shit in the other, see which one fills up fastest 🤣 GT Goku is gone. Super has unfortunately reduced Goku to an immature child in the body of a divine adult. Which is ironic considering that GT Goku was a man in a child's body lol.
@@jmcsquared18 I used to rip on GT for making Goku a kid, but man, I think I prefer "man in a child's body" to the opposite lmfao. We didn't know what we had.
Will always be my Canon. In my mind, Super doesn't exist.
GT over super all day friend
Same here bro
In my mind they are all alternate timelines possibly influenced by Trunks
Xenoverse said GT takes place in an alternate timeline, and Toriyama wrote the lore for Xenoverse.
So that makes GT canon.
Super over canon overall. Transformation here is better but Goku being a child is awful. Not to mention what became of trunks goten gohan
"Goku has layed down the law, but can he take the heat?" I love the anouncer.
The announcer loves his job
It does its job in its delivery
pooperscoop54321 "find out next week in WWE"
Nah, he’s way worse than Z’s.
lost gam3r It's the same guy.
I love how GT portrays Goku. He still loves to fight strong opponents and haves fun but he never let’s it threaten innocent lives.
He only gotten serious in the TOP (Tournament of Power) arc, the Goku Black/Zamasu arc, and in the one of the beginning arcs where Frieza comes back to life for revenge, but on the other arcs he was just an idiot. No wonder why Vegeta hated Goku so much. Oh yeah cause Goku's an idiot.
Really lol. Don’t y’all understand this is rip off Superman English dub goku. REAL GOKU aka Japanese dub, in this exact scene said “Now that I’m a ssj4, you’re heat ability don’t work on me” meaning he’s only focused on the fight. Not on being THe HoPE OF ThE UniVERSe. liGHt IN ThE DarKNeSS bs
Gt Goku was honestly the BEST Goku.
@@ChrisHighlights GT was serious in and out of SSJ4
@@connor7177 no
1:48 "Goku has laid down the law. But can he take the heat? Having started the battle exhausted and depleted of energy, how long can he push himself to the limit before he runs out of gas completely. Don't miss the next GT."
This narrator is godlike.
Agreed.
Broo and that's the adult Gohan voice actor too!! So fire 😈
@@AlienScorpion45 Wait, so the guy voiced Adult Gohan (Kyle Herbert) was the DBGT narrator? Who knew.
@@connor7036that's cool as hell
Kyle Helbert was also the Narrator in DB and DBZ. Until DBZ Kai I think.
Nova Shenron turned out to be the chillest of the Shenron's. Even attempting to help Goku
Goku treasure the 4 star ball
How ironic that the hottest dragon is the chillest
@@JulianDale94 Dude (From a chill man with chill voice)
Nuova Shenron. The first to go gold. Lol.
Natsu Fiasco lol
Duff Man not in the timeline thou..
actually Goku was the first.
Duff Man frieza is like ,fuck u nova
No UploadzZZzz so? Still the first.
1:17 I love the soundtracks for GT. Such an eargasm
Do you know what it’s called? I can’t seem to find it at all.
@@adaspotait’s by mark menza
Trust me I’ve been looking for year, closest thing I found to it is Broly transforming ost !
Man I miss the days when goku was badass and took things seriously
Back in the day dragon ball gt was on Nick toons
@@brave2425 I remember it so weird seeing it on nick toons
@@brave2425 also on cartoon network
@@rulerising6784 dose any have the DVD of this
@@boxdryer6973 and after can you send it to me please?
GT Goku: I can't allow you turn this planet into a desert wasteland the game is over
DBS Goku: This is about to get fun :D
Razer King dbs goku: fuck my friends
Razer King well they made goku stupid in super and thats bullshit, thank god GT goku is smarter than his counterpart in super
*dub goku
There's nothing serious in super, no earth ending drama or feels.
Well the universes were gonna be erased anyway, so Goku technically gave them a fighting chance
Say what you want about GT but you have to agree, SSJ4 looks awesome.
KScorpion51 yes it does but ssb is stronger in my opinion.
Carlos colon in your opinion? it is stronger but SSJ4 is the best looking super saiyan form.
xzroh the architect yes i agree ssj4 is the cool looking trasformation
Carlos colon in my opinion it looks better than Ultra Instinct but UI still looks amazing
I agree it looks really like badass but I think the coolest Gokus look is SSJGSSJ (Super sayan God Blue)
Back off golden Frieza, nova shenron did it first.
OCTOROCK /O/ actually super happened before gt so frieza did it first
nilmoni chatterjee if super happened before GT why don't they go ssb
Steven Gee GT isn't cannon
nilmoni chatterjee GT isn't cannon
As long as it's licenced by TOEI it is!The writter doesn't count!With your logic every Batman story which isn't written by Bob Kane isn't canon!
"Look, I can't allow you to turn this planet into a desert wasteland, Nova Shenron, it's not right, THE GAME IS OVER" Badass.
Agreed.
💯💯💯🔥🔥🔥
Does anyone think nouva shenron being essentially a good guy have something to do with him being the dragon for the four star dragon ball
yeah i thought so. Makes perfect sense
Golden Infiniti
Abeselom Alene wow that is a good way to look at it.
Abeselom Alene yeah good point just wish he would of lived longer in the series he's my favorite dragon.
Abeselom Alene yessss
Nova Shenron was the only honorable enemy Goku ever fought I love how dbgt acknowledged the fact that he’s the 4 Star
That dual sworded hitman as well. Forgot his name, you could argue cell was before he wanted to see gohans ss2.
@@xsorakazamax7522 Legic or something like that
*Nuova
Dang, I missed this detail. Thx!
@@xsorakazamax7522 cell was never honorable. He had all the powers of all the z fighters and then still wanted to absorb the androids to get stronger. He never used his own power
Ssj4: a transformation reminiscent of a saiyan's true nature, interesting design and clearly not a rehash of the prior super saiyan forms
Ssb: haha lets dye the hair blue
SSG: Lets make his hair red
SSR: Dye it pink!
Ultra Instinct: make some hair wave up!
Super Saiyan Rage: put sum blue in it
Legendary Super Saiyan: give muscles and green hair
Controlled Super Saiyan Beserk: lose muscles keep hair
Super Saiyan Blue kaioken: mix blue and red
X10 SSB Kaioken: Make hair white and put more red
X20 SSB kaioken: lets reuse regular SSB kaioken
Mastered UI: hehe make it jizz colored
Beserk: broly nigga
Super Vegeta/Trunks: longer hair more muscle.
Why not. SSJGSSJ looks lot cooler than "SSJ4" that actually doesn't exist coz GT is a freaking fan art.
Mislav Kukina ssj4 "not existing" has nothing to do with whether or not it's a cool design. Do you read before you post?
Ssj4 is just a furry
@@hgetgbg2e1f And SSJG and SSJB are just hair color changes
I'll be honest, in GT, Vegeta and Goku did have the most character development, Goku wanting to protect the planet that had adopted him for so long, and Vegeta at the right time, willing to put his pride aside during a tough fight, which I admit most noticeable part of that was in the shadow dragons arc when he admitted that he and Goku would get killed by Omega Shenron even at Ssj4 and even having the idea to fuse. The new characters like baby were an interesting concept, and the consequences of abusing the DragonBalls was so surprising that it made me want to see more of what would happen. Cause in the dragonball they always make them revive all the people of earth after a tough battle. It was getting too predictable and the shadow dragons did add a final finish to the series. Because even though life goes on, unfortunately some good things must come to an end, to bring forth something else for the next generation. I believe that was the intention of GT ending DragonBall.
But with Super.. They, alongside other character INCLUDING Bulma, have been regressed.
@Rubber Balloon Lover yeah, just do that they can get more character development again. The same way, which I'd just lazy writing. I do wish that they could have approached it differently but there's nothing that we can do.
@@milomhlongo9781 In fact, recently in Super, Bulma used the Dragon Balls to WISH for a bigger ass AND to look younger. Yes, possibly the smartest character in the ENTIRE franchise wasted the power of the Eternal Dragon just for the sake of her own vanity! I WISH I was bullshitting.
@@rubberballoonlover5471 oh yeah, trust me. I've seen the movie. And it's not her first time, too
@@milomhlongo9781 Alright, yes. Back in the original Dragon Ball, she was only trying to find them (& enlisting Goku's help to do so) just so she can bag herself a boyfriend. To be fair, she wasn't an adult yet at the time.
I just love that power up where the ground literally just disappears and the sediment fills in. Whoever though of that is a genius.
GT Goku: Serious, doesn't play games and wants to protect the Earth
Super Goku: Imma fight the strong guy
Rockin Robbo
DBS Goku is better. Because of that reason.
Why do you think he's fighting strong guys in the tournament of power
Akira Toriyama stated that Goku was never meant to be a hero, he is just a sick bastard that want to fight strong guys.
DBS goku is dumber. DBS animation is worse than gt's. And in gt you know the villains origins, how they got so strong. In dbs jiren is strong because yes, they don't even explain.
Don't explained YET.
Frieza did it,
The whole golden thing, frieza did it.
pizza man9000 But Nouva did it first.
The Legendary Super Degenerate it's a TFS reference
The League Of Genetically Advanced Homo Frogs dragon ball gt is way after db super
The League Of Genetically Advanced Homo Frogs gt was just made before but it is after super
pizza man9000 But nuova did it first?😂😂😂
Goku ssj4 is way more badass than ssj blue.
It's not.
+Lord Cooler yea it is
+Lord Cooler Pink? I thought it was red? lol
+Lord Cooler
Ssj4 is actually way cooler and...unique?
unlike ssg which is...well base goku with red hair and Ssb/ssr which is Ssj with blue and pink hair
Ssj4 actually looks badass and alot of people agree
+Lord Cooler Yeah, exactly. I may be colorblind, but I know the difference between pink and red when I see em lol. And ssjg is definitely pink if anything between the two. And I have to agree with sonicgamer 45 as well: ssj4 looks way more unique among all the transformations, while ssjg really does look like base goku just with pink hair. Personally, my favorites are LSSJ Broly and SSJ3 Goku. Also really like SSJR Goku Black.
Man I miss the days when Goku actually cared less about taking on strong opponents and being a bunch-happy moron and more about protecting the planet he called home. To me, he was the definition of a hero. He got knocked on his ass plenty of times, and he accepted defeat at times, but he always got back up, regardless of the stakes. And when he achieved Super Saiyan 4, I thought, this is it, he is unbeatable by this point. And no one can deny Super Saiyan 4 is an absolute gem of a transformation compared to what we've gotten in Super. SSGod, SSBlue, UI, and MUI, are all fine if you've never watched GT, but to those of us who have gotten the chance to experience the joy of DB, DBZ, and DBGT, Super Saiyan 4 makes all of the transformations in Super look pathetic by comparison.
@Foxybonnie123432 without the aura mui and uI looks trash tbh uI looks better than the mastered version
GT >>>>> Super
It’s a true end to dragonball… poetic almost. Whereas super is basically just a cash grab. Definitely not the least I have to say about GT and super… and I’m not saying I like nothing about super, but I’m not gonna write some dissertation or anything
As someone who has followed the show since the original Dragonball, DBS made it all way too confusing. SSG, SSB, UI and MUI.. There's no clear power scale. If you've only seen two or three episodes of Dbz, yet someone tells you there's SS1, SS2, SS3 and SS4 if you include GT, the power development becomes understandable SSG --> SSB isn't as clear. How can SS God be weaker than SS Blue?
@@redandblue1013 I think Super is better than GT because GT handled everyone besides goku poorly and was too slow and uninteresting for most if it
Goku was always primarily interested in fighting strong opponents, and has put the planet at risk to do so. He was never a superhero or the light of the universe or anything like that, except in the dub and in Toei's productions, which Toriyama hated for being too sentimental.
ssj4 is the only good thing to come out of gt... its much more creative then ssb.
Panther Prince yeah thats my favorite transformation
Panther Prince
Also Nouva, Eis, Syn, and Omega
Plus Baby, final shine, new clothes for vegeta and goku, gogeta SSJ4, majuub, super 17, goku and vegeta jr, awesome fights, dragon Fist, and pretty much every new attack, major villain and transformation
GT could've been amazing
GokuInfintysaiyan gt is amazing
Djames ,
I wouldn't go that far
It had a lot of awesome ideas and concepts that were overshadowed by a rushed and crappy plot and shitty ideas and concepts
GokuInfintysaiyan super has awful animation, terrible retcons, and Retarded plot armor super has been trash since the beginning it hasnt even had a good arc yet
Nova Shenron should be in more dbz games
Hes in Xenoverse
He was also in Budokai Tenkaichi 3.
rageunleashed06 he's in DBZ Dokkan Battle #GlobalForLife
+Johnathan Lattimore
dudeee XD I got Ssb vegito and rose goku black #global
sonicgamer 45 dude I got what u got along with buuhan, super vegito, godtenks,omega str and phy,gogeta ssj4,Goku ssj4 undokkaned, and Vegeta ssj4 dokkan Awaken and merged zamasu,and many LR piccolo.
Goku looks like a straight up beast when he's SSJ4. Mainly because the roots of his Saiyan blood are unleashed and he's more into fighting than the other Super Saiyan forms
ruclips.net/video/w_YaUQJAQSU/видео.html ..
Don’t forget goku is a killing machine in this form, which they never really characterized in vegeta and gogeta, that would’ve been nice to see
@@3gxerF-ty78Gubs-46gya Vegeta and Gogeta had short scenes here so it isn’t like they were not more aggressive. We just weren’t given lots of time to see them that way
@@3gxerF-ty78Gubs-46gya its mostly because ssj4 gogeta is overkill so he never really got seriously serious against omega
Love how GT kept SSJ4 important during it's entire run
Same. :)
And ironically never gave it to another character.
P. S : I really don't appreciate Vegeta's way of becoming and reverting from SSJ4 JUST ONCE
Ssj4 got smacked around and could barley lift a building💀
@@leultrainstinct406 …He never said anything of it being powerful, he said it was important. When SS4 came that was the most used form in GT.
@@leultrainstinct406 you don’t pay attention
He could lift the building he has to control his power because the building is fragile and he could very easily caused more damage
Superman sometimes has problems with planes
GT feels like a breath of fresh air after watching enough Super.
"So Super Saiyan 4 you've come out, let's play" that's a cool line
Agreed.
The fact Nova calls the form by its name makes it all the more chilling
Frezia: "You can call this form golden freiza".
Nova Shenron- "I'm about to end this man's whole career".
1:06 Nova: And now that I've raised the stakes it's your turn it's time to ante up or fold
Goku: Fold no chance of that I'll see you and I'll raise you
SSJ4 looks WAY better than SSJG, SSJGSSJ, and UI💯
THE SOUNDTRACK IS AMAZING!!! I GET CHILLS EVERYTIME WHEN I HEAR THAT SOUNDTRACK
Facts
What's the track bro
I've been looking for it....
@@gamechanger2107 1:18
@@rmejiarosales lol bro I wanted to know the name of you know it please share....
@@gamechanger2107 I'm looking for it too, but sadly, i don't know it. This is as close as I can get to it
"Goku has laid down the law but can he take the heat" is probably my favorite line in all of GT because of the irony LUL
1:38 I love when Goku is serious :')
Still is.
👿👿👿😊😊😊
@@NSMexicano2008 Nah.
@@ashlirabid9614 Evidence?
@@NSMexicano2008 Super.
I really liked GT.
Idk why people disliked it so much.
Stryder Because of the black dragon arc. Essentially the first 16 episodes or so.
Ben2099-1 so that's the reason why it's so hated because of 1 arc? And here we have super fucking up every arc they make
Sup Brah yeah and the third arc was to much fan service but otherwise it's not that bad.
Sup Brah And the only "good" (if you wanna call it that) arc was the goku black arc ( at least until the last two episodes)
@@supbrah4155 Super gets hell of hate, idk what you're talking about. People talk shit about the animation, forms, arcs, characters and basically everything the show has
Nuova technically has the first golden form before frieza
It's more of a orange tone rather than gold.
He is gold. GT just had a bit strange colors. When you see Nuova in artworks or games he is gold. He was also more gold few times later.
Well technically GT comes after Super so Frieza did it first
GT and Super both take place after Z, except GT isn't canon
Collin Brewer It's up in they air if it's considered canon or noncanon.
0:09 Brainless DBS Goku would actually believe he killed Nuova.
Lyserg1260 LOL
Damn, i can almost taste the salt
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Yo that's not even realistic
Stupid ass Original goku has to be Kinda stupid dumbass
idc what anyone says about GT
The shenrons were the coolest villains dragonball has ever had
IKR? It's fitting that they're the final villains!
Nah. Zamasu/black, frieza, Moro, cell, king piccolo, the heeters are way better
@@rubberballoonlover5471 99% of them were bland and boring
That’s why omega absorbed them. Then omega was bland so it was even worse💀
Baby
@@leultrainstinct406 The heeters, good one lmao
GT is actually a little low-key underrated. Wasn't that bad of a saga at all. In fact I'm willing to bet there are a lot of people out there that actually think it's the best saga.
I do. I love GT altogether honestly
The first 20 episodes were slow and fillerish for me but after that, all straight up action, GT had many many badass scenes.
Baby arc is overall good from like 16 th episode , Super 17 meh , shadow dragon arc decent .
It was overall enjoyable and very memorable as a part of dragon ball .
This show is horrible bro.
It’s garbage
Hard to believe this was Goku's last day on earth
damn i love GT, the art is crazy
I love SS4. Shows such a different side to Goku ferocious and violent
GT: Well, DBZ was all about turning your hair yellow. Let's change it up a bit for the next level, and utilize a part of his past in the great ape as a piece for this newer transformation.
DBS: ummmmmm let's make it blue........
it is...
Radu Vlad it may be stronger but ssj4 more creative
@@eazyboibreezy4077 only ssj4 vegeta looks nice. Goku with pink fur look gay. also both versions of ui looked nice too.
@@ridwankhan4883 what the hell?
All these comments are essentially the same. Really goes to show the insecurity of GT fans. Also, DBS didn't give us Blue. DBZ did.
i like how in ssj4 he struggles with his anger, like he wants to feed into it broly style
Frezia: This is my Golden for-
Krillen: Nova did it
Frezia: ....??
Krillen: the gold thing, nova did it
Frezia: Give me a minute *quickly goes to 2nd form to stab krillen then goes back into place as gold form*
Ok where were we
*krillen ownage count: 47*
TFS rules
Jokes on you, the counter got reset
@@thenutbucket5971 baby come to bed get off that video its late
@@dbfuture4881 wtf
THIS is the BEST Form ever in dragonball history.
Canon or Not it will always be the best Forever!!!
Uncanon and still a loved form.
No form will ever be even half as good as this one.
Cry about it Ultra Instinct!! And your fans can cry too.
Agreed, %110. It's such a fucking shame that people are acting like Blue Hair Dye is the best thing to happen since sliced bread.
@@rubberballoonlover5471 Virgin Super Goku vs Chad GTKU
@@luisdelgado7764 & they also fucked Bulma up too.
@@diabolicamires Stop trying to be different. (It’s not that i hate GT)
@@thisisadude You be quiet
Nuova was so damn cool, easily one of the best parts about GT
SSJ4 is the Goat & better than anything Super has done.
Goku: "Fold? No chance of that, I'll see you and I'll raise you."
You telling me that he hasn't gone to a single day of school and knows almost nothing about math, but he knows how to play cards?
Sir Blader Vegeta may have taught him some taunts
Must have learned playing with his friends during the World Tournament days.
He trained under Roshi for several months. Him knowing poker doesn't surprise me.
ssj4 should have been the transformation of ssjg
No that would be stupid. The fandom would be bitch about his red fur, new pants and shoes. Gtfo.
get out of here super fanboy. we all know super's new forms are lame and stupid
Agree, hell the design makes more sense since it gives of the god feeling better than SSJG
Yup ssg is stupid ssj4 should have been the god form
asijsm Haha, okay and Super Saiyan God's design is so much more original... It's basically Goku with red hair. That form was a joke considering it couldn't even get Goku to be Beerus!
GT is still my favorite series I love Super Saiyan 4
Still gives me chills when he transforms
Especially when his voice changes, always loved how both of their voices changed to a more deeper tone.
So nobody's going to talk about how my man casually just bust a crater in the ground just standing there after the power up. Ssj4 is no joke on arrival. Idk what this new shit we got going on is. Memories. 💪
They’ve been blowing up the moon since dragon ball. Looking at these old episodes makes me realizes how low quality this is compared to myself as a child liking it. Even Gogeta had awful animation.
@@tobiisagoodboy8510 Well, DB and Z is due for a reanimation the opening for Super Hero movie gave a small preview of what that could look like.
I love how GT is getting the Spiderman 3 treatment where it upset fans in the beginning and now it's cherished due to the characters being true to the lore vs what Super did.
Exactly. GT was not popular because the characters actually developed while in Super well they just take the characters' most memorable traits and krabk it to 100...
Vegeta being a sour puss, Goku loves to fight, etc.
1:36 Ssj4 goku is a fucking gangster
THE GAME IS OVER
I usually hate the Funimation Music but it was great here
Its the first thing I said to myself as well. Good to know others believe the same.
Veli just be appreciative man
The soundtracks is the only positive thing I can give GT credit. The rest is crap.
Cobanerwing01 sadly they dont do it anymore aw well japanese scores can be neat
Whats the name of it
Good thing goku was sophisticated enough to keep the poker back and forth going
If Dragon Ball Super had come out back in 1996, when Buu Saga ended, everyone would have said it's the ultimate shit, and if GT had come out in 2015, everyone would be talking about how much of an improvement it is over Dragon Ball Super in every way - the animation, music, and story.
Red bull: Gives you wings
SSJ3 : gives you hair
SSJ4: Gives you age and height
And SSJ4 gives you half muscle
Gives you leukemia 💀🙆@@goliathgar4985
gt was so gorgeous in term of animation
"Fold!? Fuck that. I'll see you and raise you!" Yo, who taught Goku poker!?
For me SSJ4 will always be the true SSG. It just seems weird to make an entire species gain their strength from their badass ancestry and then just... throw it away for fancy hair dye and label them a god.
I know right, I Highly absolutely agree with you.
Raja Thyagaraj exactly
@Raja Thyagaraj WHAT Thé SHET Are You TALKING MAYER Thé SSJGOD Is Maybe NOT Strong Enough to the New Broly BUT He Is STRONG ENOUGH to Compete with A God So Shut Up Please 😧
i don’t mind super saiyan god, but blue was so dumb
Not only do the god transformations keep the lore, but they expand on it. Ssjg was achieved with 5 pure hearted saiyains. It’s way more impactful and thematic because it shows that the saiyains entire culture and ways of gaining power, was wrong. True saiyain power comes from being pure hearted/calm, instead of being ruthless savages. It’s the perfect representation of how far goku and vegeta’s characters have grown, along with the surviving saiyains. It just works better. Not to mention, they have more unique capabilities and quirks. Not just a stolen move from DBZ movie 13, and no transformation flaws to overcome. It’s too easy. God forms take actual work and effort, as well as character growth.
Super saiyan 4 is the most badass form because it returns to origins black hair, fur and tail, that is the most awesome design choice for super saiyan 4.
When did Goku learn about poker?
Kalin Korpse when did goku learn ssj5
narutogod gamer in dragon ball ex
narutogod gamer that's a fan made thing
+Dark Shadow Spear So what?? It's still better than that Suppah-Recolor crap.
Don't have to know how to play poker to know what it means. It's an overused cliche at this point. Would be even more surprising if someone didn't know what it meant, honestly.
The narrator was so good on gt, “goku has layed down the law but can’t he take the heat?”
One of the few Dragon Ball Z like moments in GT. EPIC!!!
Super Saiyan 4 This is the Coolest Form
I forgot Nuova had a first form. I guess he did the whole “Golden” transformation first before Frieza
Goku being a kid again feels fitting!!
nova has the best voice in the entire series
kelzkritta lol
No
Canon or Non-canon, GT was good and way ahead of its time.
1:38- Why GT Goku >>>> Super Goku.
One word: priorities.
Super Goku: Watches Zeno erase entire universes and just stands by and does nothing
GT Goku: Refuses to see Earth turned into a wasteland and steps it up to max power to take his enemy down.
What? You want Goku to get erased? If he tries to stop Zeno, he'll probably erase Goku.
Yea because his actions would be his homes problem. Dur
When someone tries to prove why GT is better but goes full autisim
Are you fucking dumb? You do realize that Zeno is basically Their God in their universe he can literally be wiped out in the blink of an eye if Zeno wanted to. Jeez these fucking super haters always trying to find reasons to hate on super.
Hahahahah lloks someone only knows trash funimation dub of superman goku. Goku isnt a hero. Hes a guy who loves to fight. TORIYAMA already made comment like this saying goku wasnt syluppose to be this hero type character in the first place and was dissappointed in Toei for doing that but funimation old trash dub took it to a higher level. Super goku is just how goku is
That moment you realize goku knows poker terms but doesnt know what a kiss is
Even if it's not accurate to the character, I seriously miss the "Super Hero" Goku from the Z/GT days. That's just the Goku that I grew up with. It's the Goku that I know. And hell it's not even that the Funimation Dub made him this way, he had moments in the Japanese Dub too when he seemed a little more heroic. He was definitely way more serious though. Super really ruined Goku for me.
I agree but its really the writer fault and contraditions on Goku character that lead to him being that way.
@@emperortimetv1319 What do you mean
@@xnortheast1106 yh it's the writer fault Goku has his regression in character for example Random Goku had strong sense of urgency in dragon ball days where he kill dangerous foe and he willing to spare the greatest evil ever witness Moro
Lmao I see you’re infected by the fake Superman English dub goku disease.
In this exact scene, goku doesn’t mention anything about earth. He beat says, “now that I’m a ssj4 you’re heat won’t work on me” Japanese dub was more heroic? Lolll so you’re just gonna forget that he spared the dude who killed his friends, just for a rematch? Not from the kindness of his heart, but for a rematch? Or how, despite bulma coming up with a plan to stop the androids from ever appearing, goku ignored the plan and decided to fight them because “it’d be a challenge”. Hands down, that was the most selfish thing goku ever did. So Don’t hate super for keeping something that was always apart of goku’s character.
@@emperortimetv1319 oh you right
Super Saiyan 4 Voice 🔥
1:18 when your girlfriend wants you to be a man
That was trash
Quite the lifehack huh?
2:00 Don’t miss the next _Geeeet_
Imagine Saiyan having tails still and becoming SSJ4 at the tournament of power
at 1:11 it sounded like goku was bout to drop sum bars
Goku have some cool quotes and line
Nuova Shenron is *my favorite* of the compared to the other Dragons in GT.
Respect! 👍
The music at 1:26 is so good.
Gt music was on point
Does anyone know the theme? I’d love to know
The music in GT is awesome. SSJ4 is good as well. The rest about GT sucks.
Demonic / Angelic Retribution Mark Menza dbgt
Purple and gold anyone else feel like toriyama maybe took freezas new form design partially from this?
Colin Lemoine
We have a girl Broly now. No inspiration, it's a straight up copy-paste. Lol
What would anyone expect coming from a quick money grab at making a new series from DB hype
@@ktermniator4608 And then they're redesigning actual Broly
@the_plague *doctor* No he's not
RedEyesTops we have a planet eating goat now. It's final firm will probably resemble -Galactus- , maybe? 😂
Goku: Fold? No chance. I’ll see you and I raise you!
Nova: pppsh. Like you know how to play Poker.
The crater forming instantly from his power was awesome! I love ssj4
Goku aged like 30 years in the matter of seconds
I loved how he did hold off but once he goes SJJ4 even with the "brotherly" interruption this whole fight, scenario, etc, is amazingly well handled. Made better by the ending disruption, semi-ressurection, etc. Things went full insane mode from here on to the last episode. And it wasn't as if some previous fights weren't good or fun, though if some others had been there to fight it would've been more interesting (like Videl whom gets all battle ready and has way better look in GT but then doesn't get to do anything for example, but also would've been nice to see adult Gotenks). I think overall I liked the baby saga better, but this saga's concept/story is better and the caring about the 4-star ball plot really showed they cared (plus dragon fist from probably the best dbz movie that GT pre-Z battle of gods was fine with saying were canon, better days).
Ss4 is awesome. One of the best moments was near when the form first came out and Goku was walking forward toward the enemy and disappearing in the middle of his steps. Also getting impaled through the leg by omega shenron when he first appeared and still maintaining ss4 while hanging from some amusement park beam, upside down lol
Then of course timing a blast through the atmosphere into space perfectly to force the ship into the sun.
Theres too many badass goku moments with ss4 im sure theyre listed here in other comments
Most of all it's all still within realistic limits of Dragonball. There's no "flex one ab muscle and destroy a galaxy" level absurdity.
Super has brought shame, and I went in with nostalgia glasses obviously. I tried multiple times. It just doesn't click. Nothing really does anymore.
“So ssj 4 you’ve come out”. “Let’s play”😎
when a vid from 2011 has way better quality than most of the more new vids
Toriyama give us THIS form.
We don't want other forms. Just THIS!!
1:24 best ost of all time 😩👏🏻
Know the name?
@@ybshaun4526 I don’t🥺
@@cnonballbeatz9528 damn I’ve been trying to find it I know it’s by Mark Menza it’s peak 💯
@@ybshaun4526 I’m tryna find it rn
Shit is actually impossible to find
DUDE. I forgot about the narrator telling us to watch the next episode. Freaking nostalgia.
Still loving it... Watched it on tv back while first broadcasting happened... Brings back memories 😋😍😀
its amazing how the art before was way better designs compared by now DBZ
Shame... Even DBGT gave me chills and Tension at times. DBS is just plain simple & kinda corny. Not hating on DBS, I'm just saying they need to step they game up big time.
Isaiah Walker
Maybe next arc. This one is generating nowhere near the level of tension, despite Universes being on the line.
when u think about it the unviere is NOT at stake. we know goku n friends r around during the time of UUB. so ..yeah no tension. we know who fucking wins the tournament of power.
super literally has a tone of "goku is alive fighting uub years later. so nobody here is in risk of dieing"...yeah so much tension XD beerus burns his hands on a ramen cup, he cant take nova's heat.
Isaiah W. FACTS
GT >>>>>SUPER
The dub made it better
The fact Nova calls the form by its name makes it all the more chilling
Super saiyan 4 is way looks way better then super saiyan blue imo
it’s a fact
there is nothing new about the ssb, its just a recolor ssj transformation
@@toku5829 aside from the fact that it's SSJ with the power of Super Saiyan God, design-wise yeah it's just a recolor
Didn't know Goku was smart enough to play poker. Although this is GT Goku, not Super so it's more believable lmao.
I actually prefer GT over Super, the old artwork/animation plus ssj4 looks WAY more interesting and creative than a blue hair dye
This is getting strange. I remember GT being roasted to hell when it was shown in the U.S. Now that Super is out, suddenly people like GT...
Mike Jones I remember being looked at weird because I actually liked Gt and if I dare said that a few years back I’d get roasted in the comment section. Now if I say “I like Gt” I’d probably get people saying “yeah me too”
@@lightinstinct707 that's because super was a big disappointment my friend
@@Mike_Jones281 they made Goku in to an absolute moron. A notable example is when he forgot the sensu beans and the charm for the “Evil Containment” move in the Zamasu arc. Goku would prepare days ahead of the actual fight using everything in his power arsenal to bring the foe. Now he just wants to fight strong enemies without knowing the downsides of what will happen. Remember the tournament of power? The literal time Goku almost fucking destroyed the universe, let alone get others deleted because of his silly idea of a tournament of power? This Goku is not the Goku I know. The forms in super are pretty generic. SSGBis just a repaint of SSJ1. Meanwhile SSG is just a glorified base form. Say what you want. GT Goku is better than the moron we have today.
Super’s artwork and animation FAR surpasses GT’s. I mean the last episode of super alone shits on all of gt combined lol. I prefer ssb with a badass aura, fully a fleshed out concept, and unique abilities, vs. a ssjF(Super saiyain furry) with the same old yellow aura, shallow form with no difference stages, and the only unique ability is a stolen move from DBZ movie 13.
Also, super’s fights are superior. The villains. The arcs. The world building. And most of all, characters not named goku actually get character development and moments to shine. Whereas in GT, it’s goku time all the time.
So badass and masculine...damn I miss this Goku. I hope he will have the same attitude as this one on the next arc.
Hope in one hand, shit in the other, see which one fills up fastest 🤣
GT Goku is gone. Super has unfortunately reduced Goku to an immature child in the body of a divine adult. Which is ironic considering that GT Goku was a man in a child's body lol.
@@jmcsquared18 I used to rip on GT for making Goku a kid, but man, I think I prefer "man in a child's body" to the opposite lmfao. We didn't know what we had.
@@ganoninthepit Zeno is literally a child in a deity's body. Goku in Super is the same, except with no sense of maturity.
Super is hot garbage.