Friday Favorites: Should You Floss Before or After You Brush?
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- Опубликовано: 25 апр 2024
- How good is the evidence that flossing is effective, and what have randomized controlled trials shown to be the optimal toothbrushing and flossing sequence?
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Floss first, brush next is the message.
Makes sense, that way you end up cleaning between your teeth as well, instead of keeping the bacteria and food there
@@thesum3312 Even better is floss, waterfloss and brush
Problem with that 2 steps only protocol is that a) the floss with lots of stuff still around on the outside pulls new stuff in between the teeth (and one does not even see how much came out between the teeth in that mess) and b) so does the final brushing.
I do
1. a quick rough brush first to remove the bulk
2. interdental brush for the outer teeth with some space between, then floss the rest or all
3. main brushing
16 year hygienist that’s seen some gingival nightmares… please, floss whatever way keeps you in the habit. Do what works for you and don’t stop! Cheer yourself on for flossing daily!!🎉😊
Thx
As someone who used to get the occasional cavity and suffered from minor gingivitis for years, I'm pretty confident that flossing works.
MORE DENTAL STUDIES, PLEASE!!! Is there solid evidence to support tooth regeneration (cavity self-healing)? If so, HOW??
Early stages only. Before the bacteria eats its way through your enamel.
A developed visible cavity can not heal itself based on all evidence I have seen nor is it ever reported. Only the very surface of the teeth when slightly demineralized can remineralize through the saliva over time if further damage is avoided.
However there is research going on in the field of regenerative medicine that could one day make it possible to stimulate the tissues and stemcells in the jaw to produce a whole new tooth, which would make severely damaged teeth not a problem anymore because they could be replaced by a stemcell based implant that matures into a full tooth or with advances in bioelectric signaling even the possibility of stimulating the tissues below a damaged or removed tooth to generate a new tooth from the ground up, as happens in children twice.
Matcha remineralizes
Demineralization (white spots) and very early cavities can potentially be repaired. The vast majority of cavities cannot be repaired and need a filling though. My exp. is anecdotal but I had pretty severe demineralization & sensitivity and Novamin has given me the best results. It's the only toothpaste that has visibly reduced white spots and translucency. It forms a bioactive glass (hydroxyapatite) layer over the enamel. Tricalcium phosphate toothpastes did do better than regular toothpaste, but Novamin is much more effective. There really should be more studies on it.
I had a small cavity on a tooth surface underneath a bridge identified by two dentists (a family dentist and a periodontist) about 10 years ago but had major work done first. No dental appointments during covid. But the small cavity is not there anymore on my xray 6 months ago (checked by 2 dentist and my periodontist). Howver, I have new cavities from old crowns and a molar next to my wisdom that had no cavity at all before now need a root canal :(. I have had a lot of fillings and crowns done in my mouth so I don't have good teeth at all. I have had major abdominal surgery which effects my digestion very badly for quite a few years now and I about 2 years in after my major surgery, the small cavity was still there. The only different is that I have switched to herbal toothpaste for about 6 years. Taking into consideration my declined health after abdominal surgery, plus I was told to have osteopenia when I had my first bone density test about 3 years ago: Yes, small cavity does heal.
I used to only floss sporadically, because I hated it. My teeth are tightly spaced, and the floss would break as I tried to work it in or out. A couple of years ago, I started flossing regularly, at least 6 nights a week. I didn’t say anything to the hygienist. After finishing her work, she asked me if I was doing anything differently because my gum health was much improved. 😊
I never flossed before using a waterpik because it sucks, I agree, but did realize it was more important than I thought. So yeah, just use a well-reviewed waterpik -- it's simple and so much better. I don't know why Dr. Greger didn't mention it.
@@Atomicfog When I was a teenager, back in the mid 70s the orthodontist I went to insisted that we use a waterpick.
@@redhen689 Hah, they knew what was up back then. Yeah, it's too bad and peculiar that waterpiking as an option isn't mentioned enough. Not to mention that most flosses have teflon, which contains pfas that are toxic -- even if it's not that much -- its still a bit concerning. But yeah, having a waterpik actually makes flossing a pretty decent experience.
Yes growing up floss was that string that would get jammed between teeth, snap, and get stuck. I hated it and never flossed. Always had cavities. Finally after getting a crown around age 40 I became worried enough to try again. Now floss is that thin plastic and is so easy! If only we'd had it back in the 80s.
The upshot: 4:02
Appreciated!
Thank you. I’ve been asking myself this question every morning for a week
Great to see the research. Thanks
Given the use of Teflon and more plastic waste with floss I prefer toothpicks on the occasion a raspberry seed gets wedged otherwise I stick to Dr. Elllies protocols where rinsing and brushing twice a day after meals seems more efficacious
Do you use her Zellies xylitol mints, too? I’ve ordered some but am also hesitant while wondering how it’ll really affect our gut microbiota.
Dr Tung's Smart Floss is amazing!!
@@ginac7235 Indeed most definitely!that’s a concern that I’ve noticed especially with gas but the science is clear xylitol keeps teeth slippery and stops the plaque from sticking in the first place so I’ve been resigned to swishing and spitting with straight xylitol which is a damn site less expensive😎
I follow her method too. Amazing results in a month with whitening teeth. Got used to a squeaky clean mouth now and nothing else will do.
@@JulesCreativityPersonified 💥😎🤙🏼
This has really been so helpful for me since the original video
I read an article somewhere on the web about 6 months ago that said this, perhaps this very study, I don't remember. I'm glad I did because I much prefer brushing to flossing so I now get the best bit last! I also use Picksters after flossing which seem to get more gunk out from between my teeth that the floss missed. Floss then Pickster then brush. I've also been using toothpaste tabs for the past few years so there's no empty tube to deal with. My dentist is happy (even though she hasn't got much to do on my teeth!) so I'm happy.
Floss first of course.
If I miss even one day of flossing I get a muffy taste in my mouth,and a couple of days later,when I do floss,I get bleeding.Flossed everyday for more that 10 years,and brush after with a natural organic,xylitol containing,fluoride free toothpaste,and the softest toothbrush I can find.No cavities and a fresh mouth as a result.
The method I use is brush first, then floss, but I hold mouthwash in my mouth while flossing.
The mouthwash takes away the unpleasant smell of flossing, the dental floss imbibed with mouthwash helps it reach and sanitize areas between the teeth, and the mouthwash washes away any debris when I'm done.
Make sure you’re not using an antiseptic mouthwash. You don’t want to kill the good bacteria that produces nitric oxide in the mouth.
Here's my sequence, and it's just once per day, first thing in the morning, before breakfast: 1. Pre-rinse swished around mouth for about 15 seconds (brand: Essential Oxygen). 2. Brush w/manual brush toothbrush and toothpaste (Brands: Coco floss, Essential Oxygen), 3. Floss upper teeth (Brand: Coco floss). 4. Floss bottom teeth (Brand: EcoDent). Note: reason I cant use the woven Cocofloss on bottom is that it seems to get caught in certain areas and just gets shredded. EcoDent is more of a string and doesn't have that problem, but doesn't feel as effective. 5. Floss furthest back teeth with unflavored Listerine dental stick. 6. Finally, brush all teeth with Philips SonicCare "diamond " clean model electric toothbrush.
In regards to the pre-rinse solution. Lately I've made my own: 10 ounces Fiji water, 3 ounces hydrogen peroxide, 3 ounces Perio-Brite by Nature's Answer. Measurements are approximate.
So how are my checkups? Stellar, most years. No root canals ever in my life. I wish I'd learned all this in my teenage years - I could have avoided the 4 crowns and onlay that I have...but better late than never.
Speaking as a "Recreational Flosser" this was an interesting video. "Floss only the ones you want to keep" may not have the power it once did but is still funny. Flossing will always feels good. What I do know is that both of my parents had false teeth and I have two crowns. They didn't floss.
top video!
So I was doing it the recommended way. Good.
Nice, been doing it right for years. Teeth still have cavities though, but at least I'm doing what I can. Has Dr Gregger done a video on hydroxyapatite?
This was shocking to me. My dentist always stressed flossing--she didn't care when--in addition to brushing twice daily and thoroughly; she had patients who gently swept their teeth with a toothbrush for 10-15 seconds and thought that was brushing the teeth. The brushing was the important part. Thanks for posting!
BTW many dental flosses contain PFAS. Look for one that does not.
Request: An updated video about xylitol mint use after eating a meal to prevent bacterial growth and plaque buildup …thus eliminating the need for routine flossing and preserving gum tissue.
I don't know what you're looking for, there likely hasn't been too much recent research into this. Yle published a pretty thorough article in 2019 (in Finnish) titled "Ksylitolia on syötetty koko kansalle - mitä koivusokeribuumista jäi käteen? Nykylasten suussa muhii uusia katastrofeja" (transl. "Xylitol has been fed to the whole population - what did the birch sugar boom leave us with? The children of today have new disasters festering in their mouths"). It basically rebutes prior criticisms aimed towards xylitol; it is still substantial for preventing caries but you need to consume enough (about 5g per day) and obviously the effect is also not as significant if you already have good caries prevention, though it still contributes to maintaining a good dental health when combined with other forms of care. Bigger problems than lack of xylitol consumption for the population level dental health in Finland are people not brushing enough (only about half of Finnish men brush twice every day) and snacking culture. Finnish xylitol research has stagnated because xylitol production has been largely moved or sold abroad (there's hopefulness that it will be researched abroad instead, though to me it seems like not much has come of that yet). Erythritol may replace it eventually but for now xylitol still maintains its place in Finland.
Ok, so evidence suggests we should floss BEFORE brushing.
But when should we use mouthwash?! Before (as a rinse)? In between flossing and brushing? Or after (would it rinse the floride away)?
Never
I'd rephrase it: brush before or after flossing? Why not BOTH! A quick brush before and without toothpaste to get the big dirt out, making flossing a lot easier and cleaner.
Any plans on doing a video on 'earthing/'grounding'?
I'm almost positive that floss removes things from my teeth that an hour of brushing never would.
"Flossing is brushing between the teeth" as they say!
I feel like if you have a normal mouth full of teeth with plenty of space between them, floss is optional. But I sure could’ve saved myself a bunch of fillings if I flossed even weekly when I was young !
It is not what i thought…. I Will try it.
My sequence: _1) water floss, 2) anti-plaque mouthwash, 3) brush, 4) string floss._
Note: You can have issues with pushing food particles beneath the gums if you string floss first. Or at least it seems I do.
There’s a company in CA that sells xylitol floss! THAT would be an interesting study doing a comparo betw flosses! Strep mutans, the cavity bacteria, eat xylitol which kills the bacteria!
I've always done brush, floss, mouthwash.
I thought flossing first would just push more dirt into the gaps
well turns out you are wrong, also with that logic shouldn't you use mouthwash first.
Mouthwash is bad news.Killing the bacteria in your throat area which generate nitric oxide is not a good idea.Heart disease is the result of this.Rather use a xylitol,salt rinse.
Agreed with @ss1extreme
Also, why would you want more dirt "into" the gaps? 🤔
That would make it more difficult for the toothbrush to get to that "dirt" thereafter.
... leading to even more gingivitis and tooth decay.
Instead of pushing the "dirt" into a hard-to-reach gap, you should be aiming to remove the "dirt" completely.
Ideally, you'd want to protect the whole tooth - including the gaps, not just the front (and back) faces.
Should be Exactly the opposite order to you are doing.
My dentist said brush first then floss but she also recommended flouride treatment so….
I brush with electric tooth brush briefly to quickly dislodge anything, then floss, then brush with a manual tooth brush more thoroughly 👍
Ive always flossed before brushing
This video explores the ongoing debate about the optimal sequence of flossing and brushing teeth, presenting arguments and research findings to determine the most effective method for dental hygiene.
🦷 Debate on Flossing Sequence
Common Practice: It's commonly accepted that flossing plays a significant role in removing plaque and reducing gingivitis.
Research Insights: Various studies show mixed results on whether flossing before or after brushing is more effective.
🧪 Scientific Findings
Study Methodologies: The video discusses studies with weak methodologies, highlighting the difficulty in producing conclusive evidence on flossing's benefits.
Current Recommendations: Despite weak evidence, dental associations continue to recommend daily brushing and flossing.
🔄 Optimal Flossing Method
Floss First: Research suggests that flossing before brushing might be more beneficial in terms of plaque removal and fluoride retention.
Use Oral irrigator instead of flossing
I floss after every meal and even snack, then rinse. Flossing 'after' brushing doesn't even make sense.
Sweep before you mop 😅
How effective is water flossing using a water flosser.
Even better: Brush, floss, then brush again.
The best piece of advice would be to get an electric toothbrush.
Interesting but think it would make very minimal difference. Anytime you floss is better than no no flossing. Hard to be bothered but really should before bed at least.
Doesn't seem to be an issue but will get in the routine. Perhaps not having meat particles stuck in your teeth helps immensely.
ps. The tooth fairy only collects baby teeth I thought.
I have a better progression: rinse with mouthwash + quick brush with the mouthwash, then floss, then brush with toothpaste.
Check the studies on mouthwash,causes heart disease because it kills the bacteria that create nitric oxide.Dump it.Use xylitol and salt as a rinse with some peppermint oil.
Respectfully disagree.
@JordanPike You can't disagree without saying what you're disagreeing with and what your position is. Looking forward to your response.
4:32
Is there a vacccine to stop flossing?We got to know one!
How to NEVER need a dentist again...
So simple but never discussed by dentists. Hydrogen peroxide. Simply swish for 5 seconds before brushing at night.
In chemistry labs, peroxide is a reaction accelerator. It makes everything work better. It doesn't just whiten, it mechanically digs in under the gums in the crevices. Probably why they add it to so many dental products.
Ask a dentist about it and they'll say something idiotic like, it's associated with hairy tongue 😅. Obviously they don't want you to know about this simple solution.
Part 2 is... do a water only toothbrush in the morning after breakfast. No toothpaste needed. Just a wet toothbrush and when you're done swish.
The whole idea is to make your dental hygiene effortless, which this is. I've told quite a few friends about this over the years and it always solves their yucky teeth problem! This is something that REALLY needs to be put to the test!
Before.
Light brush, floss with the string doused in mouth wash, brush normally and spit, mouth wash and spit.
I think anybody should not floss and use a waterpik instead, and then brush. I think it's different since the waterpik rinses the mouth and teeth -- unlike floss. But yeah, using a waterpik is so much better, more comfortable, and easier. Dr. Greger should have mentioned it.
You need a really good waterpik though, which are expensive. The cheap ones are practically worthless
@@leftyfourguns Gotta disagree with that. I got mine for $25 and it works incredibly well and has been good for well over a year now. I worked my way up to the second highest pressure as the highest one is actually too strong still which also demonstrates the quality.
I will say though, if you want to find a good one for cheap you have to look through the reviews carefully. I don't doubt many cheap ones aren't good based on the reviews I read through. But yeah, definitely not all.
great now i have to stick my hands in my unbrushed mouth ;-0
I always brush, floss, then brush again. But I don't floss nearly as often as I should.
Some dentists like Dr Ellie say you shouldn't floss at all.
Brush floss brush😊
Brush, floss, water pic…😊
Never flossed and never taught about it. Seems like adding more complications to your life
Brushing after flossing is better for your breath. But HOLY COW the American Dental Association can't be bothered to do studies? Maybe they should disband.
ah yes
WaterPik... floss...brush
Imo brush then water pick, and not sure why you'd add floss as well if your waterpik is good, but I guess it wouldn't hurt if you are willing to do that. But yeah, I don't think a waterpik is analogous to regular since it rinses your mouth out and your teeth off as well -- so I think it's as good or better to waterpik afterwards. Not sure why he didn't mention waterpiks -- maybe there isn't enough research, but a waterpik is just so much better in terms of ease and comfort compared to floss.
Dentine mimi tooth brush is good, as food gets between the teeth. That's the way I am doing it, flossing, then brush, the rinse with alcohol free mouth wash.
damn i hate that i have to change this habit now
Studies funded by companies should be viewed critically anyway. What I'm surprised about is that no public funding has been allocated to this.
Cleaning symbiosis: open your mouth and let birds clean your teeth. It works for crocodiles!
weak studies = ♻