David & Michelle Knotek : A House of Horrors

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  • Опубликовано: 8 мар 2023

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  • @Room-uc5se
    @Room-uc5se Год назад +1479

    I remember a girl in high school who told everyone she was preggers with my baby (we never slept together) then a few years later she told everyone I killed my self….then a bit later that I had a heroin addiction. I will never understand people who lie like this…I am just glad I am ok after killing my self. Like….did she not think people would figure out I am not dead? Dah phuck.

    • @kellykane7586
      @kellykane7586 Год назад +109

      It's an illness LOL it's called storyteller syndrome

    • @deannad3077
      @deannad3077 Год назад +60

      @@kellykane7586 I hope that's just a nervous 'LOL'.

    • @colormetakenaback
      @colormetakenaback Год назад +109

      I was married for nearly 3 years when I found out my mother in law wasn't dead. My husband told me she had died a couple years before I met him. Then one day me, him, his bro and bro's wife we're visiting and talking. The dead MIL came up and bro's wife says "Yeah well I wouldn't take a check from her!" And I went do what?? They all looked at each other with a "Woops" expression. It was one of many lies that came out but I felt this bizarre feeling at the time... it was crazy. I've met the MIL since we've been divorced. lol Come to find out he'd taken our twins as babies to see her and I never knew.

    • @granmasrecipe
      @granmasrecipe Год назад +184

      Damn.. you had a heroin addiction as a ghost. Praying for you.

    • @sw6118
      @sw6118 Год назад +34

      A narcissist. She hoped that if she said it the world would bend to her dictates.

  • @gustavedore1073
    @gustavedore1073 Год назад +1354

    I recommend reading "If you tell" by Gregg Olsen, it really captures how cruel and sadistic Shelley really was. She started as a child by tormenting her stepmother and it just escalated from there. Her grandmother was also pretty similar.

    • @EYE_GOTCHA
      @EYE_GOTCHA Год назад +81

      I’m reading it now. 👍

    • @betsybracken3512
      @betsybracken3512 Год назад +73

      It’s an excellent book. Very disturbing.

    • @St.Linguini_of_Pesto
      @St.Linguini_of_Pesto Год назад +40

      Twisted & sad. Sounds scary relatable, to a point.

    • @TudaBear
      @TudaBear Год назад +41

      Thanks.... Always looking for a good book

    • @jjprince6539
      @jjprince6539 Год назад +59

      Very good read! It is very hard to read just a warning it broke my heart reading that book but I could not put it down. I definitely recommend it as well.

  • @sa_exploder
    @sa_exploder Год назад +804

    It’s always “she ran off to California with a mystery man.”

    • @Thezaza1101
      @Thezaza1101 Год назад +32

      And somehow people believe it...??

    • @WTWAK
      @WTWAK Год назад +30

      I really hope the new generations of detective watch some of these guys on RUclips.

    • @teebookz4157
      @teebookz4157 Год назад +13

      There's a lot of mystery men out here

    • @OldJabbaJaws
      @OldJabbaJaws Год назад +13

      Works on cops often enough to be worth a try

    • @CrZY_DnKS
      @CrZY_DnKS Год назад +8

      Well look at the timeline back then that was normal

  • @jchope777
    @jchope777 Год назад +162

    I have an aunt who's like this. Always eager to "help" the less fortunate, in exchange for life-long servitude. Thank God my cousin & I were able to escape her clutches. She's truly a monster.

    • @TheAlj35
      @TheAlj35 8 месяцев назад +8

      My mother is the same! I got out 2 weeks after graduation. My 3 sisters got out even earlier. Glad you got away too!

    • @ILAW42060
      @ILAW42060 6 месяцев назад +2

      I hope you n your cousin are ok.

    • @mistymedlock8463
      @mistymedlock8463 5 месяцев назад +1

      Omg
      Me too!!! This was my aunt but not to this degree.

    • @jayceecee8651
      @jayceecee8651 4 месяца назад

      Have you reported them to someone like a social worker? Does reporting anyone like that actually do anything?

    • @supme7558
      @supme7558 2 месяца назад

      They ride poeple down the spiral acting like they help and get anything the can with a smile

  • @FingerBreakerWu
    @FingerBreakerWu Год назад +580

    David doesn’t get any of my sympathy at all. He betrayed a boy that thought the world of him and all the crying in the world after he got caught won’t change that.
    If he was so broken up and guilty about what he had done, why didn’t he confess years earlier? Because he’s crying that he got caught and not because he killed him.

    • @chiberjuberdourado2487
      @chiberjuberdourado2487 Год назад

      Completely agree! He’s just as disgusting as his wife.

    • @Chatndiva
      @Chatndiva Год назад +34

      Ditto. He can take them big fake crocodile tears to prison with him cuz I'm not falling for it

    • @beansoup8171
      @beansoup8171 Год назад +27

      You say that but a woman would get all the sympathy because they can do no wrong lol

    • @dioniciotrevino7672
      @dioniciotrevino7672 Год назад +25

      ​@@beansoup8171 Right, I don't have much sympathy for the choices he made and he deserved to go to prison, not happiness and whatnot but It seems like he would have been a decent person if he didn't get involved with Shelly.

    • @Mutantcy1992
      @Mutantcy1992 Год назад

      ​@@beansoup8171 Shelly offs an old man in her care, cops come to see a bloodbath, she says he fell out of a wheelchair. Cops say "hmmmm well, she doesn't have a penis, so I think this was an accident."

  • @LadyAstarionAncunin
    @LadyAstarionAncunin Год назад +508

    That picture of her not smiling with a hand around each daughter's neck (1:29) is SO telling.

  • @IndigoRoses7
    @IndigoRoses7 Год назад +205

    Shelly is definitely the worst kind of malignant narcissist

    • @tundrawomansays694
      @tundrawomansays694 11 месяцев назад

      Psychopaths…both of them.

    • @AmandaMorrisSmith
      @AmandaMorrisSmith 11 месяцев назад +3

      This is how my mom was....sick in the head

    • @Taco_Raider
      @Taco_Raider 6 месяцев назад

      Shee mayde aye gewd, stronge, faurt

  • @RatherBookish
    @RatherBookish Год назад +562

    Yeah, I’m not going to be able to finish this one. Too close to home.
    To anyone watching this he grew up with an abusive mother...I see you.
    Here’s to us escaping. Here’s to us breaking the cycle and not using the excuse of our own trauma to justify us hurting others. Here’s to us taking the time and energy to meticulously care for our children’s mental, emotional, and physical health. I see you and the struggles you have overcome. You are amazing and I am proud of you. 🎉

    • @sarahmarie2729
      @sarahmarie2729 Год назад +27

      I hope youre doing better & im sendimg lots of love, light n healing to you. God bless.

    • @Stalkedbyapsycho
      @Stalkedbyapsycho Год назад +21

      ❤ well said

    • @jamimoor7311
      @jamimoor7311 Год назад +28

      Yes... I'm right there with you. I'm actively breaking that cycle in my life. My kids and grandkids will NEVER feel the pain I grew up with...

    • @xxxstellarxxx
      @xxxstellarxxx Год назад +17

      Proud of you for putting yourself first. You don’t need to watch just because we’re fans. Sometimes, mental health comes first.

    • @kimdasko6952
      @kimdasko6952 Год назад +8

      Me too. Too f-ing close for me.

  • @mamamelissa
    @mamamelissa Год назад +405

    I read "If You Tell" by Gregg Olson. Viewers have no idea just how awful this woman truly was. She was a sadistic, disgusting piece of crap. What they did to Kathy was unforgivable and the stuff of nightmares. What an awful thing to go through. I am floored that she was released from prison. One can only hope she gets what is coming to her.

    • @StargazerAPW
      @StargazerAPW Год назад +16

      Karma what goes around comes around ⭕️

    • @jackyblue67same10
      @jackyblue67same10 Год назад +9

      How long did she spend in jail & what about her husband is he out now too ?

    • @desertraindrops9840
      @desertraindrops9840 Год назад +11

      Let's hope it's 100 times worse than what she inflicted on all her victims...🤬

    • @candacedowds9917
      @candacedowds9917 Год назад +10

      That book broke me. I couldn't stop crying.

    • @mirandahartzenberg690
      @mirandahartzenberg690 11 месяцев назад +10

      ​@Candace Dowds same, I rarely cry during books but this was insane. I don't know how they survived. They'll need therapy forever.

  • @NinaDuffy
    @NinaDuffy Год назад +170

    Murder is awful and in no way, at all am I downplaying that...but the fear her daughters must feel knowing she's free.. must be unreal. She seems like the kinda lady to hold a grudge. How is she free... walking around right now . Hope karma comes jail wasn't enough.

    • @ItBeYourOwn
      @ItBeYourOwn Год назад +12

      I can’t believe they’re out!???

    • @NinaDuffy
      @NinaDuffy Год назад +9

      @E.A. Weaver honestly such an injustice.

    • @lauragosnell2481
      @lauragosnell2481 Год назад +4

      No! Please tell me they aren’t out?! How!!?!

    • @NinaDuffy
      @NinaDuffy Год назад +7

      @@lauragosnell2481 it just seems so wrong to let a convicted murderer see the light of day and walk free.

    • @d3l3tes00n
      @d3l3tes00n Год назад +1

      Many things are worse than murder.

  • @MsPopeye65
    @MsPopeye65 Год назад +467

    It’s really really difficult to call out a mother who is a monster but presents her self as an angel….
    I have got to say that these cases were solved due to the courage of those daughters…
    I hope that they continue to do well and they are happy…. ❤

    • @lizchapman7826
      @lizchapman7826 Год назад +1

      Sadly they must always still be frightened at least a small amount since the judicial system IMO failed miserably in releasing both of those sick murderers already.

    • @ASh-io8ro
      @ASh-io8ro Год назад +26

      How do these people stay hidden in plain sight for *so long*?? It has to be people ignoring red flags. I mean, one of her own social groups referred to her as "crazy".

    • @nathanwho1384
      @nathanwho1384 Год назад

      When people realize the "angel" act is a typical female manipulation tactic. As women they get the benefit of the doubt for simply being women. So it's very easy to act innocent and all that. When in reality they are worse predators than men....

    • @kursed01
      @kursed01 Год назад

      Narcissistic at its finest

    • @mindsigh4
      @mindsigh4 Год назад +14

      @@ASh-io8ro
      if you cant imagine being able to live with yourself after doing such evil, maybe it's hard to imagine or believe that
      about other people?
      especially if they seem normal & don't act too troubled by anything. through the years
      ive known a couple people who've told me about crazy stuff they've done, stuff that i would have never imagined or suspected.

  • @maryannfascetti6421
    @maryannfascetti6421 Год назад +246

    Thank you monsters. This women was really a demented monster. I am so glad the children made it out. How awful for the rest of the people that endured her company.

  • @ashleymix1824
    @ashleymix1824 Год назад +333

    You are so amazing. NEVER STOP. You give the victims a voice and never romanticize the monster.

    • @raesayblahzayblahzay
      @raesayblahzayblahzay Год назад +3

      Perfectly said 👌🏼

    • @rainbows9060
      @rainbows9060 Год назад +2

      @RaeSayBlahzayBlahzay indeed. Stopped Me in my tracks..I'm a crime nerd so this is a reminder!!!

    • @sunsetpark_fpv
      @sunsetpark_fpv 8 месяцев назад

      We aren't here for the victims - we're here to try and understand the MONSTERS that victimized the humans. 😎

    • @marshapieroni6677
      @marshapieroni6677 7 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@sunsetpark_fpvwe always want to remember the victims. I have tried forever to understand why the crazies do what they do and have come to this conclusion. If I ever get to the point of understanding them will be the day I'm exactly like them. There is just no way to understand them or understand why they do what they do. But yet, here we are, still trying.

    • @markb6295
      @markb6295 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@marshapieroni6677
      Stop watching b4 it's too late!

  • @tuesdaypatience
    @tuesdaypatience Год назад +253

    I’m not giving David any kind of pass here. This dude was home enough to see much of this first hand and was 100% complicit in literally disposing of the bodies.

    • @stephaniebraden6886
      @stephaniebraden6886 Год назад

      You should read the book. He’s a POS just as much as her.

    • @dlilwon
      @dlilwon 11 месяцев назад

      He does seem d u mmy as eff

    • @amysnow56
      @amysnow56 10 месяцев назад +7

      He himself murdered Shane. I think David got off on it. No way he was actually that weak

    • @kirstinspence881
      @kirstinspence881 10 месяцев назад +18

      Also the daughters as adults not wanting to go the police because they were “happy in their lives” and tried to encourage their 14 year old sister to keep living in a dangerous home until she turns 18. They don’t sit right with me either.

    • @amysnow56
      @amysnow56 10 месяцев назад

      @kirstinspence881 Their mom was able to brainwash people into allowing themselves to be tortured to death. They had been under her influence so long and were so damaged by it I don't think they saw things clearly. They also feared not being believed. Nikki went to the police by herself shortly after moving out and was not taken seriously at all. They thought the same thing might happen, and they would bring on Shelly's wrath for nothing.

  • @kathywright7395
    @kathywright7395 Год назад +380

    What is wrong with our system of justice that these two were allowed to walk free?

    • @kellykane7586
      @kellykane7586 Год назад +36

      Well it's a system that's FULL of "rights". Prosecutors have to Prove Guilt. Imagine if the husband didn't walk into the station, they likely wouldn't have served ANY time😯

    • @micheleshively8557
      @micheleshively8557 Год назад +28

      It's totally broken and abused

    • @mallninja9805
      @mallninja9805 Год назад

      It's based around the idea that "It is better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackstone%27s_ratio - so the burden of convicting someone in court is high. Of course, the Reid technique dials that back somewhat by badgering people into false confessions...

    • @mallninja9805
      @mallninja9805 Год назад +18

      @@micheleshively8557 Indeed, most often by cops and prosecutors

    • @spiritmatter1553
      @spiritmatter1553 Год назад +2

      @@kellykane7586 If the husband *hadn’t* walked into the police station…

  • @grumpygremlin2379
    @grumpygremlin2379 Год назад +39

    Anyone else absolutely love the fact that Michelle inadvertently HELPED police nail her?

    • @granny58
      @granny58 Год назад +8

      Her need to control the daughter led to her downfall

    • @grumpygremlin2379
      @grumpygremlin2379 Год назад +4

      @Jnetta58 Sometimes it's like that. They practically hand police evidence against themselves on a silver platter.

  • @donnablack6280
    @donnablack6280 Год назад +192

    This is so similar to my violent narcissist of a mother, right down to the red hair.
    I'll tell you this for nothing; that stuff about caring for the elderly? It's mostly to get their stuff when they die. My mother was always "inheriting" stuff.
    And the only reason I'm no longer terrified of saying so is because she herself died suddenly last year, not missed by anyone.

    • @karanfield4229
      @karanfield4229 Год назад +8

      I'm sorry. I had a father that was narcissistic.

    • @terribongers2465
      @terribongers2465 Год назад +1

      🤗

    • @yolandascholten2012
      @yolandascholten2012 Год назад +21

      Congratulations on your liberation Donna!! Be free and live well.

    • @mommy2libras
      @mommy2libras Год назад +3

      Yeah, Pat Allanson had that one down, and back in the day when you could easily fake resumes and experience and such.

    • @c_me_now
      @c_me_now Год назад +16

      Same. My mother passed away in Jan of this year and had it hidden from all of us for a month before anyone knew. She was such a manipulative person she had recordings to send us verbally abusing us even after her death.

  • @lowrider81hd
    @lowrider81hd Год назад +97

    I really appreciate that you offer the direct call option for suicide hotline. You have managed to create a very caring community here, and I hope - no I know - that you are helping people. Thank you!

  • @TashiPooh
    @TashiPooh 9 месяцев назад +14

    18 years wtf?! She’s a serial killer and she got 18 years? There are people in jail longer than that for marijuana. This Justice system is beyond a joke.

    • @derpestarzt
      @derpestarzt 5 месяцев назад

      Authorities sometimes let ppl like her loose intentionally to study them and bc... they're evil.

    • @lauraanderson8785
      @lauraanderson8785 Месяц назад

      The Finnish justice system is an even bigger joke, one guy here served 3 years for stabbing a man to death... And that's not even the only such case

  • @amberlin.88
    @amberlin.88 Год назад +94

    I can't believe I'd never heard about this case. This is absolutely horrifying 😳 those poor kids

    • @danidakota7304
      @danidakota7304 Год назад +4

      Ikr. I have also heard about it just recently on one of true crime channel ( not sure which one)and I was literally speechless and shocked for hours. I could not believe that she went through those horrible crimes unnoticed for so long. I am horrified just to think that monsters like this woman walk among us. On this other channel the torture that Cathy went through is described in great details. Honestly, I wish I didn't hear it because I could not sleep many nights thinking of the pain, humiliation, torture and agony that poor Cathy went through before she finally died. I hope she rest in peace

    • @Claudia-lq3ns
      @Claudia-lq3ns Год назад +3

      ​@@benhartart9487 what the???

    • @melaniemills4505
      @melaniemills4505 Год назад +3

      ...seriously...this story belongs on the show Evil Lives Here. 😳

    • @melaniemills4505
      @melaniemills4505 Год назад

      @benhartart9487 ...but alive at what cost? These girls have to live with fact that their own mother is a calculating and cold blooded killer. 😒

    • @danidakota7304
      @danidakota7304 Год назад +5

      @@benhartart9487 you don't think they are poor,only because they survived?? Just try to imagine trauma they have to live with?? If that is not poor enough for you, then I don't know what is

  • @jennifercasia7500
    @jennifercasia7500 Год назад +84

    Can I take a moment to thank you please? I am a survivor of both domestic violence and human trafficking. I am also a self-unaliving survivor. Thank you for being so kind and caring in your words and even in your voice. I also want to thank you for posting both hotlines in the end. And to anyone feeling lost, lonely and afraid PLEASE take the first step and reach out for help. RECOVERY CAN HAPPEN. I will grant you it's not easy BUT ITS WORTH IT....Just like you!

    • @ruddiko
      @ruddiko Год назад +7

      That's a lot to have gone trough Jennifer. I just wish you a happy quiet life from this point on, you have earned it more than the majority for sure ❤

    • @vanessab4969
      @vanessab4969 Год назад +2

    • @margaretyocom9042
      @margaretyocom9042 Месяц назад

      Im so sorry for what you have gone through however awful and traumatizing you survived.

  • @kezzabell8123
    @kezzabell8123 Год назад +33

    How could people treat other people so sadistically, without a conscience

  • @gavvo-7640
    @gavvo-7640 Год назад +100

    OMG this case is harrowing to listen to!!! Thank you for keeping Cathy's spirit and story alive. She shouldn't be forgotten

  • @966Mako
    @966Mako Год назад +53

    I really do enjoy the last 30 seconds, waiting for the way “Monsters” is worked into the finale. 👏🏼

    • @germyw
      @germyw Год назад +4

      Me too! I kept trying to predict when he would say it so I could say it with him.😅

  • @locswail7600
    @locswail7600 Год назад +25

    Michelle has that car salesman smile In most of her family pictures.

  • @Tyler-ci9um
    @Tyler-ci9um Год назад +31

    Literally felt sick to my stomach when you revealed that neither monster is in prison currently.

  • @pixiehollow5236
    @pixiehollow5236 Год назад +52

    Your delivery of these stories are so in-depth and prepared. I love how you throw subtle hints of sarcasm in there ..as heartbreaking as these stories are its hard not to listen .you tell a good story...thank you for these uploads.

  • @joannewalker4232
    @joannewalker4232 Год назад +24

    Jaw dropping that these monsters now walk freely amongst us, truly chilling.

  • @kellymckay1750
    @kellymckay1750 Год назад +23

    I love how he de-constructs and belittles these people and their twisted thought processes. Brilliant!!👍

  • @jasonbernard9012
    @jasonbernard9012 Год назад +25

    Well I’ll be damned…how did this channel slip under the radar for so long from my eyes? The second it went into the intro I knew this channel was going to be one of my favorites. Amazing work this is MONSTERS

    • @themorningstar8675
      @themorningstar8675 Год назад +1

      I just recently started watching Truly Criminal.
      I enjoy that channel. Some cases are 20 mins, some are an hour and everything in between.

    • @eerielconstantine5051
      @eerielconstantine5051 6 месяцев назад +1

      If you aren’t aware Dave’s Lemonade, Dreading, and Matt Orchard are great too

    • @jasonbernard9012
      @jasonbernard9012 6 месяцев назад

      @@eerielconstantine5051 I’ll check out Matt Orchard! Thanks for the recommendations :)

  • @IdahoRanchGirl
    @IdahoRanchGirl 8 месяцев назад +9

    This was one of the most disturbing cases you've covered. The cruelty and manipulation was utterly disgusting. I just don't get how ppl can be so heartless and evil.

  • @PamelaH_HappyVibes
    @PamelaH_HappyVibes Год назад +28

    Shelly is a true narcissist in every way. I hope her children stay FAR away from her. She is a horrible person.

    • @snickerinmuttley1204
      @snickerinmuttley1204 Год назад +3

      @Pamela H, What's scary is Imagine how many of these kinds of people are out there in world right now, and we just don't know it yet, It will surface when it's ready, in the worst kind of way, Look at Chris Watts, I think this is something a person is born with, You and I could never even Imagine doing sick shit like that, I would hate it if I couldn't feel compassion, empathy, sympathy for other people, I was born with a good heart.

    • @yolandascholten2012
      @yolandascholten2012 Год назад +2

      And a sadistic torturer.

    • @PamelaH_HappyVibes
      @PamelaH_HappyVibes Год назад +2

      @@snickerinmuttley1204 - it really is scary! I just don understand how you can live with yourself knowing that you intentionally hurt somebody. I know there are more ‘Shelly’s’ out there but, I seriously wish there was a way we could keep those people away from kids, animals and just society in general.

  • @asiawilliams8719
    @asiawilliams8719 Год назад +40

    It’s 3:22 am, and I see we’re all up listening to our favorite RUclipsr! 😅

  • @Funnylittleman
    @Funnylittleman Год назад +81

    I love that you always upload right before my bedtime. It’s always a pleasant surprise to see your videos right when I need them most.

    • @anja2716
      @anja2716 Год назад +5

      No nightmares?

    • @anja2716
      @anja2716 Год назад +1

      @@rationalbacon5872 Along side down under?

    • @gordonaliasme1104
      @gordonaliasme1104 Год назад +1

      @Shelby Parks You sleep with one eye open?

    • @micheleshively8557
      @micheleshively8557 Год назад +4

      And here in Texas I get it with morning coffee 💙

    • @Funnylittleman
      @Funnylittleman Год назад +3

      I’m in Oklahoma I just go to bed at 3am a lot 😂

  • @rayvrq13
    @rayvrq13 Год назад +7

    David's been out for 6 years. She's been out several months. He filed a protective order against her in 2022. He said "Stay the hell away psycho! " "I AINT GOIN BACK"! lol

    • @kdfree91
      @kdfree91 7 месяцев назад +1

      I can't believe it took so much scrolling to find out whether or not they got back together! Thank you for giving me the answer!

  • @Axisoffear94
    @Axisoffear94 10 месяцев назад +51

    I hope to God that people (whether they be police, community or vigilante) are keeping their eye on Michelle. There's no way she isn't attempting to track down her daughters...

    • @poopedonyourchest799
      @poopedonyourchest799 9 месяцев назад +10

      Hopefully the daughters have guns

    • @shamikeatley4760
      @shamikeatley4760 7 месяцев назад

      ~or having a cple more friends(servents) live w her tht may come up missing in the near future....~i jst couldn't imagine being a child living in tht nightmare....
      ~rip to all her victims...

  • @laurenhayes564
    @laurenhayes564 Год назад +20

    Gregg Olsen’s book If You Tell is an AMAZING source of info on Shelly and the children she tormented, as well as her many husbands and captives. Highly recommend ANY of Gregg’s novels.

  • @chinavaughan6383
    @chinavaughan6383 Год назад +31

    Given all the horrific things that this woman did, I don’t understand why she was given such a short prison sentence and released. She should have gotten a life sentence!🤬

    • @mayarandolph8788
      @mayarandolph8788 Год назад +1

      The US justice system gives sentences based on race and not actually based on the crime. It is very well documented that violent white repeat offenders get way less time and are way more likely to get parole than nonviolent Black first time offenders. It goes back to the creation of the US prison system after slavery and Nixon/Regan and Clinton's s attacks on marginalized communities.

    • @chinavaughan6383
      @chinavaughan6383 Год назад

      @@mayarandolph8788 Thank you for sharing this information 😔

    • @kateendrews46
      @kateendrews46 10 месяцев назад +3

      The Justice system is awful. Called the police on mine bc she physically assaulted my sister and I and bursted my sisters lip. Bc I had no physical marks but literally had to bite her in attempts to get her off of me the police instead threatened to send ME to juvie and gave her the option to press charges. She pulled her usual manipulative liar bullshit and told me that she would have charges set against me and send me away but of course didn’t and only said that shit to evoke a fear response and feel in control but I’m rambling. Overall the legal system sucks when dealing with abusive mothers.

    • @kateendrews46
      @kateendrews46 10 месяцев назад

      Oh and I told them about her bashing my head into the concrete and they said there were no bruises or signs of trauma to my head so it didn’t count. First off how would they know they didn’t even check. Second… I have very thick and curly hair. You couldn’t see or check for bruises if you wanted. My head was sore and so were my joints. Head felt off for days and I do believe there may have been some trauma to it. So yeah. Again sucky.

    • @sabrinatscha2554
      @sabrinatscha2554 6 месяцев назад +1

      At least she is a withered husk if her former self and is likely going to spend the rest of her life under police scrutiny.
      People like her can’t cope with themselves if they can’t abuse others. She is more than likely miserable. Just as she deserves to be.

  • @helenwoods1467
    @helenwoods1467 Год назад +20

    Wow, narcissists sure are dangerous.
    I just left my ex of 16 years (who has NPD), with a buttload of CPTSD, night terrors, 2 major suicide attempts, and lost 2 babies to. Aiden wld be 15 yrs old, & Samantha would be 3 yrs old now, if they had survived. I have a 17 yr old son to him, and sadly, he's turning into his dad, he's seen too much , especially in the last 3 years, after our split. But, he's seen what his dad truely is, and he's seen me grow, get clean and flourish without the dead weight. I know he won't be a kid forever, but that feels like cold comfort atm. I miss him, I miss the gd times we spent together. Narcissism, psychopathy & Machiavellianism are the usual suspects in so many of these monsters crimes. I pray that my ex will stay the heck away from me forever. He doesn't know where I live, I'm about 99% sure, & I honestly don't think he's brave enough to come looking for me, as sadly, I've changed too, I now stand up for myself, but have developed a mean streak that is hard to control, as well as having DID from my traumatic childhood, it's all very frightening, I'm finding. But I'm alive, and I've learnt alot from it all. I'm now sober, coherent and have real purpose in my life. I'm going back to school, at age 46, so that I can be a psychologist. I've also just started studying criminology aswell, I'm dedicated to turning my trauma into treasure 😊😊😊

    • @Tadesan
      @Tadesan 11 месяцев назад

      Wow.
      You've never been alonein your life.

    • @almostclintnewton8478
      @almostclintnewton8478 9 месяцев назад

      Good on you! Even if your son struggles to find a steady path, he'll always have you when he needs to find True North. You're breaking a cycle and though I don't know you I'm still damn proud 🌻

    • @VaderPopsVicodin10
      @VaderPopsVicodin10 15 дней назад

      Keep on fighting the good fight! ✨💯

  • @josmith213
    @josmith213 Год назад +28

    When you said she said "the woman said she spontaneously..." For some reason I thought you were gonna say "combusted" after that. LOL, no clue why that popped into my head LOL

  • @mattmurdock5424
    @mattmurdock5424 Год назад +19

    Knowing that Shelly’s free right now is very unsettling

    • @I-P-777
      @I-P-777 Год назад

      Very disturbing. Stupid law, poor those girls her daughters

  • @luffyduffy7817
    @luffyduffy7817 Год назад +103

    Everyone should read "If You Tell" by Gregg Olsen, goes into detail just how evil these two were (Michelle was a special type of evil) and the fact they are both out today is just baffling and terrifyinh

    • @deelovedbytwoxxo8841
      @deelovedbytwoxxo8841 Год назад +3

      Who what. Out YOUR tripping. Shelley isn't out???

    • @jakebee4134
      @jakebee4134 Год назад +3

      @@deelovedbytwoxxo8841 watch the end of the vid

    • @NinjaRed5000
      @NinjaRed5000 Год назад +4

      @@jakebee4134 She was up for parole June 2022 but that request was denied. As of now, though, her sentence ends in 2025.

    • @benjamintriplett3
      @benjamintriplett3 Год назад +9

      Shelley was released from prison in November of 2022.

    • @benjamintriplett3
      @benjamintriplett3 Год назад +3

      ​@@NinjaRed5000 no it wasn't she's been out of prison for a few months now.

  • @m.ccheddarbox874
    @m.ccheddarbox874 Год назад +13

    I keep thinking about how much she must have been freaking out when her husband didn't come home lol

  • @matthewpitre8159
    @matthewpitre8159 Год назад +45

    I don't know if you took my suggestion to do this case but I believe I left it in the comment if you did then thank you another suggestion would be Theresa knorr she horrificly killed her two daughters with the help of her sons each at different times she was jealous of them I believe and she also thought they were putting spells on her to make her fat and ugly this was on Cold Case files and the case really stuck with me over the years if definitely falls into torture and murder

    • @bbyjscx
      @bbyjscx Год назад +4

      He recently covered theresa knorr

  • @SuGirlabk7993
    @SuGirlabk7993 Год назад +81

    All the hard work and dedication you put into your channel is very much appreciated. Thank you so much ..💕..from Australia 🦘🇦🇺

    • @Cynthiabecker24
      @Cynthiabecker24 Год назад +6

      Hey fellow Aussie Monster crewster. Melbourne.🙏🌏💙

    • @MatterInMyMind
      @MatterInMyMind Год назад +5

      Haha 💪🏼🇦🇺🤙🏼

    • @SuGirlabk7993
      @SuGirlabk7993 Год назад +5

      Hi my fellow Aussies from South Australia 🙋😊

    • @buggiebuild1
      @buggiebuild1 Год назад +5

      Hello to you way way way way in Australia, Florida here lol😂✌🏻💕😎

    • @MatterInMyMind
      @MatterInMyMind Год назад +1

      @@SuGirlabk7993 Hello to you too from the sunny Gold Coast 🙂

  • @catsantos353
    @catsantos353 Год назад +19

    I too came from severely physically & emotionally abusive & neglectful parents who live in an equally small rural town who loved to appear as public saints. Reputation over reality. Frightening parallels. Chills me because sometimes I have no idea how lucky I am to still be here. Makes me grateful if not guilty

    • @katrina3560
      @katrina3560 Год назад +4

      💜 "survivors guilt". I hope you've found some semblance of peace.

    • @catsantos353
      @catsantos353 Год назад +2

      @@katrina3560thank you very much 💜 (great name btw lol!) am still on the journey towards peace ☮️

    • @micheleshively8557
      @micheleshively8557 Год назад +1

      No guilt! You didn't make them that way! Blessings to you 💙

    • @katrina3560
      @katrina3560 Год назад

      @@catsantos353 aw, thanks--do we share the name? Forgive me if I inferred incorrectly. It is early for me here🤭
      I am still on my journey towards "full" peace, I understand the road can be twisty and mountainous. One day at a time, we'll get there💜 🕊️☮️

  • @ItBeYourOwn
    @ItBeYourOwn Год назад +22

    This is just insane. It almost makes me not ever want to trust people or dwell with any level of security in this sick world. Honestly I don’t see a problem with living a life of being an introvert. ☕️

  • @hannahgrapes1554
    @hannahgrapes1554 Год назад +49

    Omg I've been waiting for y'all true crimers to pick this story up, especially since that awful woman got released so recently. The "justice" system seriously failed on this one tbh. Imagine torturing multiple people, basically to death, and still being allowed to leave prison. She's clearly a danger to society. I pray she doesn't come in contact with any more vulnerable people...... we'll see I guess.

    • @dontworryaboutit4255
      @dontworryaboutit4255 Год назад

      God will get her. Pray for God to stop her from harming anyone ever again and that the hand of God's wrath comes down on all evil in the world.

    • @WideAwakeHuman
      @WideAwakeHuman Год назад +2

      @@dontworryaboutit4255 I mean i don’t disagree that God will get her - but that doesn’t mean she won’t get her hands on some innocent person before then. She should’ve gotten the needle

    • @bbyjscx
      @bbyjscx Год назад +1

      I have seen quite afew true crime content creators cover this case.

    • @hannahgrapes1554
      @hannahgrapes1554 Год назад

      @@bbyjscx nice. I've seen 2 now lol

  • @rosemaryangela1825
    @rosemaryangela1825 Год назад +11

    Men like that husband make me sick! He’s a coward & as much a monster as “Shelly”!

  • @AKayfabe
    @AKayfabe Год назад +49

    this case is absolutely insane. I have watched lengthy accounts of this one and read her daughters book.
    Shelly is definitely a serial killer, whether she’s been charged for it all or not. I believe she murdered the elderly man in her care, too, and the boy who stayed with them, and the 2 people they know she killed.

  • @toasted_peach
    @toasted_peach Год назад +47

    There’s a book titled If You Tell and it’s the three daughters grown up and talking about what they experienced when they were kids. It’s a tough read but really good and you can tell they did their research.

    • @cass2515
      @cass2515 9 месяцев назад +1

      I’m currently reading that but I’m confused why he called Nikki Leslie but the other girls names are correct.

    • @jedimasterbeard3979
      @jedimasterbeard3979 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@cass2515Leslie’s privacy

  • @sandeesimons6045
    @sandeesimons6045 Год назад +18

    I remember when this happened. Thank you, Monsters for delving deeply into the case and revealing even more unknown atrocities. You're fantastic! 😊

  • @janeapproximately
    @janeapproximately Год назад +12

    I've heard this story, but I really liked the way you covered it. I didn't even know police interview footage for this was out there. Knocked it out of the park again, thanks for all your hard work

  • @margaretyocom9042
    @margaretyocom9042 Месяц назад +3

    The things that so many children have been through makes me sick. What makes it so much worse is there are still some out there that havent been saved yet. The world is such a scary place. Especially for a mother.

  • @Autumnz2005
    @Autumnz2005 Год назад +26

    I've found your channel fairly recently and have been watching it pretty much nonstop since, you have great writing, the hooks in the beginning always get me interested in the case right at the start. Also I hear you talk about how you used to be a construction worker a lot so it seems like you're just a normal guy with an interest in true crime, for some reason I find that comforting, not sure if that's just me being weird lol. Anyways keep up the great work, your videos just keep getting better! :)

    • @retard_activated
      @retard_activated Год назад +3

      Welcome to the "Clan" , Autumn! 💖

    • @sarahhirshlee
      @sarahhirshlee Год назад +4

      Welcome. Turn back while u still can. (😉Lol) nah... You're amoungst friends here!👋🏼
      If u like this channel be sure to check out his additional channel/podcast 'somewhere sinister'.

    • @sarahhirshlee
      @sarahhirshlee Год назад +4

      ​@@retard_activated wait we're a clan?
      Okay that's cool.😀 I dig.😉
      But I want to be the first to put in submission for our clan name...
      The anti-Teraphobic clan

    • @micheleshively8557
      @micheleshively8557 Год назад +2

      Welcome to the monsters family 💙

    • @thisisMONSTERS
      @thisisMONSTERS  Год назад +9

      I was in residential construction for more than 20 years. I'm one of the lucky few who kinda benefited from the pandemic. I was a project manager for a remodeling company and I was on salary, so when we had to initially shut down jobs, I was able to spend more time on my podcast (which I was already doing on the side) and it gave me the time to make the podcast into a RUclips show. I was off completely for 2 weeks with pay, then I spent the next few months working 20-25 hours a week. I had started the podcast for me. I'm an introvert and my daily life was dealing with other people who were often unhappy and usually being fairly unreasonable. I just wanted something to do on my own. I would read and research and then tell a story and it was a nice way to calm myself from the anxiety that the daily interactions I had caused.
      At some point one of my videos got a bunch of views and it kinda made the channel snowball and once I was making enough money from it I did not hesitate to quit my job. I love building. I owned my own business for a while where I focused on finish work and would install all the trim and make custom pieces like built-in bookshelves or fireplace mantels. I can build a house from scratch. I just don't like dealing with other people. If I ever find the right house that would be a good property to flip, I totally would. I could remodel it without having a customer and that would be perfect. Otherwise, I get to tell stories and research people who I find fascinating. It's a dream job.
      Thanks so much for watching!

  • @occb1987
    @occb1987 Год назад +11

    When my grandmother died I stayed in her old house (to keep it safe) for a few weeks whilst going through probate.
    It was right out in the middle of the arse end of nowhere with no signal/WiFi. I had to go up to the village church that was the only place to receive any signal and I downloaded a bunch of these episodes.
    It was such a lovely and heartbreaking time and this channel got me through a really tough time.
    Thanks mate, lifetime fan.

    • @occb1987
      @occb1987 Год назад +2

      *lonely

    • @thisisMONSTERS
      @thisisMONSTERS  Год назад +2

      Thanks for watching. I’m glad I could help and I’m sorry for your loss.

  • @xamandaxxleex
    @xamandaxxleex Год назад +10

    The ESC key function on the website is so great! Wow!!! I went there just to test it out. They even have a warning on the page saying that internet search history is basically impossible to erase completely so call if you’re fearful of that & it tells you about the X or ESC trick. It goes immediately to Google & the back button doesn’t show up so it looks like Google was the first page you visited. Love that so much & I love the you included that in your video.

  • @alexthomas962
    @alexthomas962 Год назад +23

    I generally have no problem reading true crime books but I read “if You Tell” by Gregg Olsen last year and it was one of the most difficult books I’ve ever read because of the subject matter- it took me a while to finish; I kept having to put it down because it was so tragic.
    Tysm for covering this case and helping give voice to the victims!

    • @ceeleegee825
      @ceeleegee825 Год назад +3

      I love Gregg Olsen's books. Thank you for sharing this, I just bought it on Audible

    • @TeeshaMarie92
      @TeeshaMarie92 Год назад +1

      Thanks for the recommendation!! I will definitely have to read this book.

    • @TeeshaMarie92
      @TeeshaMarie92 Год назад +1

      Book worms unite!!
      My self care as a mom of 3 is being able to read and write!!!
      I always ♥️ a great book review/recommendation!

    • @emmielou7934
      @emmielou7934 11 месяцев назад

      Same though.

  • @OnlyLoveIsWelcome
    @OnlyLoveIsWelcome Год назад +16

    How devastating. This is so awful. Those poor people and the children who survived it💔It makes me think of this book I read and all the books following... Have you covered the story told by the man who survives in the book A Child Called IT?

  • @leesanurse6474
    @leesanurse6474 Год назад +25

    I absolutely love this channel. Your voice is soothing also. I listen to a story or a few everyday.

  • @deeplydark
    @deeplydark 8 месяцев назад +4

    Wow, Harry… this was a rough one. Anyone who could do these things to an innocent child should not be allowed to live

  • @cadillacdeville5828
    @cadillacdeville5828 Год назад +7

    When I wake up to go work out at 3:45am💤, I know TIM uploaded 😌

  • @truthseeker2000
    @truthseeker2000 Год назад +34

    I first heard about this story not even a week ago, & thought this can't be real. You're the third channel I've watched that's covered this case. Unfortunately, it's real. I mean, my mom is a textbook mean & heartless narcissist. But Shelley makes me want to get my mom a mother of the year plaque!

    • @autumnhowell7447
      @autumnhowell7447 Год назад +4

      It's real I know her I live there in Raymond Washington Shane was in my class when he disappeared she was evil the look she gave you when you saw her at the store was enough to kill you but I believe there was lots more and for her to be out now is wrong

  • @kandinelson2459
    @kandinelson2459 Год назад +68

    Good morning my Monster's Family how's everyone doing today? I hope you are all doing amazing and are enjoying another twisted and satisfying episode of our favorite show!!!!

    • @Luke-cj7gz
      @Luke-cj7gz Год назад +7

      Get help

    • @kandinelson2459
      @kandinelson2459 Год назад +1

      @@Luke-cj7gzhelp with what?

    • @micheleshively8557
      @micheleshively8557 Год назад +3

      Have a fantastic day! Hello from Texas 🎀

    • @Luke-cj7gz
      @Luke-cj7gz Год назад

      @@kandinelson2459 'enjoying' and being 'satisfied' by videos about real life people who have been tortured and murdered. You appear to have a lack of empathy, not unlike the murderers in these videos. Please seek help.

    • @kandinelson2459
      @kandinelson2459 Год назад +1

      @@micheleshively8557 back at ya!!! 🥰

  • @danielleraleigh6310
    @danielleraleigh6310 Год назад +12

    Thank you for making a video on this.
    “If You Tell” by Gregg Olsen is an amazing detailed book about Shelly and her sadism, Dave, and their crimes. Definitely recommend.

  • @michu5872
    @michu5872 Год назад +5

    Really nice that you're including now more of the live interrogations footage. I'm following the channel for a longer while and definitely see it's development. Keep up the great work, big kudos for the content!

  • @_bluephoenix_
    @_bluephoenix_ Год назад +23

    Always love your content, Giles! Thanks for such consistent and informative videos.

  • @Onus6688
    @Onus6688 Год назад +26

    Thank you for being respectful to the victims and also having the helplines at the end ❤

  • @mrginga4044
    @mrginga4044 Год назад +19

    Great show yet again 👏
    THIS IS MONSTER'S

  • @m.ccheddarbox874
    @m.ccheddarbox874 Год назад +4

    "Suffer the business end of those scissors" thanks for making me laugh! I'm definitely going to hell now.

  • @dogearflopper7011
    @dogearflopper7011 Год назад +4

    This is one of the few sources I see that is so respectful of these cases and situations. Thank you for your work.

  • @jahdacat
    @jahdacat Год назад +3

    Hi there! I just wanted to say thank you for your videos and podcast, I’m addicted haha! I love your narration and I especially love the helpful links/phone numbers you present at the end of the videos. It shows you really care. Thank you so much for the hard work!

  • @kathrynchildress1691
    @kathrynchildress1691 Год назад +5

    Good morning!! Woke up just in time! Thank you Jiles for another great video on a case I never hear of!

  • @AnirudhSingh-sc5mt
    @AnirudhSingh-sc5mt Год назад +30

    You should add subtitles to the interrogation videos. Its hard to understand what they're talking about without subtitles.Thanks btw love your content keep posting.

    • @cmthomas07
      @cmthomas07 Год назад +5

      There is a CC button in the upper right of the screen.

    • @annetteloquercio3174
      @annetteloquercio3174 Год назад +3

      Agreed , I'm sure as us listening here the channels producers cannot understand & decipher the garble to get it on the screen . When he can be understood thru the sound of gravel and whimpering , the CC primts what he is not at allllllll saying - and the same when he CANT be understood , CC has just random - sorta - sounds - as - he's sayn this ...: (

    • @demoncatman6575
      @demoncatman6575 Год назад

      The subtitles unfortunately don't pick up a lot of what is said during interviews by defendants who are emotional. Though some is usually unintelligible. Often the same during arrests.

  • @bethannwood8362
    @bethannwood8362 Год назад +1

    Thankyou for the direct access to help your channel seems true in your commitment to awareness of domestic violence and how to get help

  • @JakeByers-nr5rk
    @JakeByers-nr5rk Год назад +1

    i dig the chill vibe, and thank you for your time. sending you and yours: peace, love, and empathy.

  • @oldpunker885
    @oldpunker885 Год назад +7

    First time I have seen any interrogation of Dave anywhere. I read If You Tell and I thought you might do this story under your Torture season. I'm glad you finally did it.

  • @laleona776
    @laleona776 Год назад +12

    Oh my goodness I was just getting ready to go to bed, it's 2:14am here in AZ. But your videos are worth it & I can't wait till the morning... Well, the late morning 😂😂
    Thanks again for another MONSTERS!!

    • @jenise3447
      @jenise3447 Год назад +3

      It's 4:30a here lol I love this show

    • @billyblack9761
      @billyblack9761 Год назад +2

      Hey I'm in Arizona as well ! 🏜️ It's always cool to see someone who's in the same neck of the woods.

    • @elizabethforsyth4814
      @elizabethforsyth4814 Год назад +2

      It's just after 10 in the morning here in glasgow. So good morning 🌄🌞

    • @Cynthiabecker24
      @Cynthiabecker24 Год назад +1

      Hi 21:19pm Thursday even. 💙

  • @adornoea
    @adornoea Год назад +15

    I know the husband is a victim as well but tbh he stopped being a victim the moment he joined in on the abuse. I don’t feel sorry for him, actions have consequences 🤷‍♀️

  • @andrewtucker7990
    @andrewtucker7990 Год назад +2

    Every time I hear him say Shelley, I picture Randy Marsh from South Park saying it. The way he says it is so funny to me.

  • @kelsey1805
    @kelsey1805 Год назад +6

    You guys never have a boring case. Great channel all around.

  • @stephanieoconnell2343
    @stephanieoconnell2343 Год назад +3

    Love all the new content. I need to catch up. Thank you so much!! 🌻

  • @crystalneesmorgan7003
    @crystalneesmorgan7003 Год назад +13

    Nice!! ❤❤❤ love this channel

  • @witchflowers6942
    @witchflowers6942 Год назад +4

    “they went to alaska” is unironically a very common thing to hear in washington lol

  • @JaneDoe-rj4jn
    @JaneDoe-rj4jn Год назад +7

    So tired of psychopaths using the emotional excuse of why they had to burn , mutilate or dissect a body by always exclaiming “I didn’t know what to do!!” This after they said the victim died naturally or accidentally.

  • @robertkain7890
    @robertkain7890 Год назад +10

    I've heard this one elsewhere, but it still sickens me to know this woman was able to get away with all of this for so long!!

  • @wisdomseeker3362
    @wisdomseeker3362 Год назад +3

    I took a break from the _psychopaths_ in these stories for a few months. I have been here with Monsters from the very beginning. I'm so happy that he's come so far ! I'll always be a fan of this channel!

  • @ek2137
    @ek2137 Год назад

    I really appreciate all of your hard work which yields such excellent products.

  • @omolabakeejibunu9531
    @omolabakeejibunu9531 Год назад +6

    Thank you for always making my week

  • @harlowblackadder356
    @harlowblackadder356 Год назад +3

    @this is MONSTERS
    So excited to watch this new episode after a long day. Thanks so much! Eating leftover spaghetti and my cat has just arrived lol.

  • @MushVr00mer
    @MushVr00mer Год назад +2

    I love when I sit down with my coffee and it’s not long that I’m searching before I find a new monsters video 😊

  • @lisasmith767
    @lisasmith767 Год назад +1

    Some of your best work, very well-told story and truly terrifying!

  • @Cynthiabecker24
    @Cynthiabecker24 Год назад +17

    Hey fellow Aussie Monster Squad, didn't expect THIS on a cool Thursday evening. Very dusturbing case. Much respect to Jiles for another great upload. Grab your blankies....nite. From Melbourne AUSTRALIA 🙏🌏💙

    • @wazgod6306
      @wazgod6306 Год назад +2

      Geelong here, peace and prosperity to you and yours.

    • @mermaid06
      @mermaid06 Год назад +1

      New South Wales - Rivernia
      Much respect to Giles for all he brings. R.I.P. poor Cathy & Shane

    • @janefrost1856
      @janefrost1856 Год назад +2

      Hi from UK

    • @Cynthiabecker24
      @Cynthiabecker24 Год назад +1

      Hi all. Such a horrendous, senseless loss.😢💔

  • @Zyklus360
    @Zyklus360 Год назад +9

    Long time follower. Usually don't make it within the first 12 minutes.
    I remember this having growing up near Raymond, WA. Some things you never forget.
    Thanks for all your hard work from a fellow PNWern!

    • @SeanHenderson
      @SeanHenderson Год назад +2

      5:16 why didn't the person who took that picture just walk away from the sad embittered face and not help her????

  • @ghoststardancer5030
    @ghoststardancer5030 Год назад +2

    Didn’t have to go far down the notifications to see this. 😀
    Can’t sleep so this will most certainly be a treat.
    Thank you. 🌀❤🌀

  • @candyrain09able
    @candyrain09able Год назад

    Thank you for listing the support phone numbers with your video. Thats very thoughtful of you. 👍🙏💗

  • @deborahcarr1428
    @deborahcarr1428 Год назад +3

    Thanks so much for covering this story. I’ve asked a few times. She is pure evil

  • @justthefacts8872
    @justthefacts8872 Год назад +6

    That is what every person who interacts with a narcissist will eventually look like if they don't make a break. SHE DESTROYED THIS MAN AND EVERYONE WITH WHOM SHE HAS HAD CONTACT.

  • @JeriScarborough
    @JeriScarborough Год назад

    You're channel is awesome. Love the production❤. This was one crazy B!

  • @jessbrunswick9621
    @jessbrunswick9621 Год назад

    You are amazing. The way you tell someone's life and death in such detail is perfect. I sleep soundly listening to the videos you have made and I have finally run out..... I have watched all of Somewhere Sinister and they are just as well spoken. Keep it up. Your famous in my house for all the RIGHT reasons........😍