Hey James, nice to stumble upon you again. (ex WP MS MVP) I'm just over the border in the PNW as well. I've been using the Sinope T-stats for years with baseboard heaters. As they are silent I found it was too easy to have windows open to cool things off during the day, but then not be aware that the heating had come on in the evening while the windows were still open. I've got the straight up Zigbee versions that I have integrated with Hubitat. Contact sensors on the windows and doors use lighting to alert us that the heating has come on during the day, and at night it won't allow the t-stats to come on at all.
Oh cool! That is an awesome idea with the sensors. Any specific sensors you are using? I was hoping the sinope stuff would work with home assistant, but that hubitat looks really nice. I def want something that can work if we loose internet.
I ended up not installing it yet although I want to. Out water situation here is less than ideal for the install so have to wait on it. But I have installed the heated floor thermostat which works great and lots of their smart plugs and smart light switches. Everything works flawless and all zigbee
@@JamesMontemagno I'm using some older Aeotec door/window sensors, they're z-wave, have rechargeable batteries built in, and are no longer made. I try and do rechargeable/built in or hardwired whenever I can. Dozens of sensors on batteries adds up to a lot of waste. The Hook Up channel did one of the best tests I've ever seen for contact sensors a couple years ago. I like Hubitat's reliability, I just want stuff to work so I can forget about. I don't want to talk to it, and I rarely need to interface with it. I had the original Sinope T-stats with the Neviweb GT-125, and then I re-purchased when the Zigbee versions came out. They have been rock solid with my Hubitat, I have never, not once, had to re-pair or faff about with them after a power outage. I can understand the attraction for someone at your level to HA though. If you do decide to try out Hubitat, I'd have a look at the list of supported products and choose contact sensors from that. IIRC it was an Aqara sensor that won The Hook Up's test two years ago, but at that time Aqara was doing their own gerrymandered version of Zigbee that didn't play nice with Hubitat. I suspect between Zigbee 3.0 and Matter finally making it to market since then there are lots of good choices.
@@JamesMontemagno The Sinope T-Stats made a great base for a Zigbee mesh. Looking forward to your experience with the water shut-off when you get it installed.
Thank you for the reveiw. Can I check if this thermostat use solid realy or mechanical relay? I hate the click sound when the thermotate turns on/off the heater. I found Mysa V2 uses mechanical relay while V1 uses solid relay.
Hey James. I am from Zimbabwe, south of Africa and I learnt Xamarin and .NET MAUI from you. Thank you for that. And please take this in the best way please🥹 can we have more MAUI stuff? These videos are cool and all but some of us don't relate to them at all🥲🥲 Maybe some deep dive into really advanced MAUI topics such as custom handlers, etc that most people don't understand and use (like me)
Thanks for the feedback. I like to make a variety of videos, while mostly dev focused around .NET also some fun tech reviews because it is fun for me to make them. Just don't watch them and move on ;) I will have plenty of more .NET specific videos just like the several hundred I have already on the channel
Almost! I have electric baseboard with those horrible built in thermostats on the heater. I use space heaters instead because it more accurate. I can remote mount a thermostat sensors with my space heaters that are ran off batteries. I don't have the wring for my baseboard heaters and am looking for similar solution that is affordable. Those dials down on the heaters are horrible and require constant fussing.
I would probably look at the switch-bot family of products. I have one here that can toggle on and off switches but can do it based on temperature if you buy their thermostat and setup ahtomation
Yeah, there really aren't other options out there. I have 5 in my house an yeah they add up, but best solution I found. You could prioritize which rooms you use the most.
Check with your utility company, my local company has a rebate for these, they are on Amazon for $140 for the 4000w version, but there’s a different model for $100. the rebate is $50; It’s still expensive but at least a bit of savings.
Hey James, nice to stumble upon you again. (ex WP MS MVP) I'm just over the border in the PNW as well. I've been using the Sinope T-stats for years with baseboard heaters. As they are silent I found it was too easy to have windows open to cool things off during the day, but then not be aware that the heating had come on in the evening while the windows were still open. I've got the straight up Zigbee versions that I have integrated with Hubitat. Contact sensors on the windows and doors use lighting to alert us that the heating has come on during the day, and at night it won't allow the t-stats to come on at all.
How did the whole home water shut-off installation go?
Oh cool! That is an awesome idea with the sensors. Any specific sensors you are using? I was hoping the sinope stuff would work with home assistant, but that hubitat looks really nice. I def want something that can work if we loose internet.
I ended up not installing it yet although I want to. Out water situation here is less than ideal for the install so have to wait on it. But I have installed the heated floor thermostat which works great and lots of their smart plugs and smart light switches. Everything works flawless and all zigbee
@@JamesMontemagno I'm using some older Aeotec door/window sensors, they're z-wave, have rechargeable batteries built in, and are no longer made. I try and do rechargeable/built in or hardwired whenever I can. Dozens of sensors on batteries adds up to a lot of waste. The Hook Up channel did one of the best tests I've ever seen for contact sensors a couple years ago. I like Hubitat's reliability, I just want stuff to work so I can forget about. I don't want to talk to it, and I rarely need to interface with it. I had the original Sinope T-stats with the Neviweb GT-125, and then I re-purchased when the Zigbee versions came out. They have been rock solid with my Hubitat, I have never, not once, had to re-pair or faff about with them after a power outage. I can understand the attraction for someone at your level to HA though. If you do decide to try out Hubitat, I'd have a look at the list of supported products and choose contact sensors from that. IIRC it was an Aqara sensor that won The Hook Up's test two years ago, but at that time Aqara was doing their own gerrymandered version of Zigbee that didn't play nice with Hubitat. I suspect between Zigbee 3.0 and Matter finally making it to market since then there are lots of good choices.
@@JamesMontemagno The Sinope T-Stats made a great base for a Zigbee mesh. Looking forward to your experience with the water shut-off when you get it installed.
Thank you for the reveiw. Can I check if this thermostat use solid realy or mechanical relay? I hate the click sound when the thermotate turns on/off the heater. I found Mysa V2 uses mechanical relay while V1 uses solid relay.
nice! Sinopé is a business close to where I live.
Oh nice! that is awesome! they were really awesome to work with.
Great review, got some and are really awsome.
We put Mysa ones in our home. Found it to be superior to all the others.
I looked at mysa, but they need more than 2 wires unfortunately.
@@JamesMontemagnoI was able to get them to work but not recommended. Always better to go with the more compatible solution.
@@DaveVanderWekke How? SWIM
Now you need motion/presence detectors to only turn heaters on in the rooms a person occupies. 🙂
Hey James. I am from Zimbabwe, south of Africa and I learnt Xamarin and .NET MAUI from you. Thank you for that. And please take this in the best way please🥹 can we have more MAUI stuff? These videos are cool and all but some of us don't relate to them at all🥲🥲 Maybe some deep dive into really advanced MAUI topics such as custom handlers, etc that most people don't understand and use (like me)
Thanks for the feedback. I like to make a variety of videos, while mostly dev focused around .NET also some fun tech reviews because it is fun for me to make them.
Just don't watch them and move on ;)
I will have plenty of more .NET specific videos just like the several hundred I have already on the channel
Almost! I have electric baseboard with those horrible built in thermostats on the heater. I use space heaters instead because it more accurate. I can remote mount a thermostat sensors with my space heaters that are ran off batteries. I don't have the wring for my baseboard heaters and am looking for similar solution that is affordable. Those dials down on the heaters are horrible and require constant fussing.
I would probably look at the switch-bot family of products. I have one here that can toggle on and off switches but can do it based on temperature if you buy their thermostat and setup ahtomation
Or maybe I would look at some smart plugs
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Not really affordable as I’d need 10 of these controls which would run me $1,500 USD
Yeah, there really aren't other options out there. I have 5 in my house an yeah they add up, but best solution I found. You could prioritize which rooms you use the most.
Check with your utility company, my local company has a rebate for these, they are on Amazon for $140 for the 4000w version, but there’s a different model for $100. the rebate is $50; It’s still expensive but at least a bit of savings.
@@jocelynPMAjust checked my rebates and it’s 75!