No matter how disjointed it may seem to be I'm still going to watch it and give it a thumbs up. This is hands down my favorite tree channel and I watch all of them.
Buckin Billy Ray is awesome too, and if not for him I might not know Reg. What a blessing to find him and I feel a lot the same. Reg makes it loo so easy, like any true master can.
The man who gave me the belief I could overcome my fear of heights and learn to climb.. I'm deeply grateful to guys such as August, Jacob and especially yourself Mr.coates.
You said in your last vid about struggling to find motivation for entertainment videos , your videos although entertaining are also educational and inspiring. Thank you for taking the time and effort. Warrington UK
Hey bud your everywhere on line lol talked to other day on the iron horse . Keep making content iv Ben thinking about getting a camera an starting to do some stuff I climb as well but il be straight up I’m no reg coats up there he make it seem so effortless lol I’d have dirty underwear climbing some the stuff he does lol
@@scotttam7491 hey man! You should definitely start recording your work! Editing is still something I’m getting used too. But I agree. Reg is definitely THE man. Ive learned a lot from him.
I think you made the right choice just slashing it down and making everything manageable for your man Dave to just get in and grab what he can between cuts.
Watching your videos is so relaxing for some reason, I don’t know why. Also I also enjoy the spacey music coupled with the higher climbing, it’s like some sci-fi other world up there.
I know from old/recent videos you have showed disinterest in filming the mundane and boring side of tree cutting but i honestly think i speak for everybody when i say that we will watch everything you post. It is super fuckin intertesting and definetly something cool to watch, i hope you dont give up on this because it is awesome and we will make you a millionaire from this "repetitive content" -said by you
Hi reg, as a fellow Brit who used to work in the sawmill trade and fell occasional trees, not top roping like what you do, but you do a brill job and good commenting on how to assess the situation..Well done!
All the time and work you put in to your videos is much appreciated . I always gain knowledge and insight. The smooth methodical efficiency you demonstrate is amazing.
Oil of Cloves helps ease a painful tooth , you can keep a small bottle of that in your med kit . It also has antiseptic properties so helps reduce any underlying infection . All the best Reg .
@@ishure8849 I haven't used it for years although I have some at home "in case" , I worked at sea for many years and we kept some in the med kit on board most vessels I worked on , it's not a fix of course but will help the sufferer until proper care can be had . I quite like the smell of Eucalyptus oil , probably helps keep flies and mosquitoes away too 🙂
Hey Reg, sorry your tooth is bothering you. Just something else to distract you from the job at hand. Frustrating. I've been dealing with a broken tooth for a few months now and I take a ton of tylenol and ibuprofen. It's a terrible idea but it's been holding me over until I can get something done about it. This is NOT one of the "worst vidoes you've ever made". Every time you upload a video, tree guys around the world tune in to watch it no matter what. You're THE OG tree guy. Hope you get to feeling better. Greeting from Tennessee, US.
Being that I worked hard and tried to keep a professional manner up , I do like seeing a professional apply his craft. Great video getting the job done and filming it. I like that you do a scan around the horizon
Man, it's so nice just sitting in the harness throughout the limb removal. Once I've put a high tie in point, I know in my head, this tree now belongs to me. I can do whatever I want to it.
Sometimes less is more when it comes to rigging. I like to zip things in 2 scenarios: 1) If I can cut out a lot of tricky terrain by doing so. 2) If it's a bit breezy and I need the control. Great video man, I appreciate the effort put into it.
Keep on making video Reg. I watch it like the way I watch the discovery channel. One day perhaps you can consider packaging it all together into a collection. I would totally buy the DVD or whatever format it comes in.
It's always nice to see another Coates video. That saw seemed very sharp, do you have a narrow gauge chain on it? Best wishes to you and your family Reg. Take care of that tooth!
Hey Reg, interested in the new friction device I see you're using! When you're climbing up on your spurs with just your hands, is the rope weight enough to self tend through the device? I notice you tend some slack at the end of your climbs, but it doesn't seem like much. Thanks! Looking forward to its release to find out some more details
All in all Not a bad video Reg , you did a good job editing , and the music was a good fit . Ive had 10 root canals and Nothing sucks worse then a tooth ache .
Hey reg great to see a vid I’m sure you Ben super busy with your new products. I can’t wait to try it out. At first I’m like idk about the handle but I’m sure it goin to be great it seems to work well for you in this vid
A great video with everything good, i have no more teeths since 5 years and had so many pain with, thanks for sharing this, I imagine how painful it was, cheers from Luxembourg 🇱🇺 europe, 40% of wood
You Are The """"""""Cats Ass"""""""" Mate!!! It's real Good To See You Back !!!!! Sorry About the Tooth Ache !!! Tooth Aches Are A Pain In The Ass !!! The All Natural Footage And Sound Are O.K. I Like It That Way !!!! (I Do Also Love The Music Background Choices ) They Are Real Good!!!! . I Love Watching You On RUclips!!!! All Your Videos Are Good !!!! I Don't Think You Can Make A Bad Video !!! You Are One Of The Very Best / Favorite Guys / Videos that I Love To Watch!!!!! Even When You Just Have Informative Videos On Life And Or The Journey Of Your Trade !!!!! Even When You Are Working On Something Work Related, Like A Device On Your Chipper or A Brand New Invention For The Tree Work Industry!!! To Me You Are Extremely Interesting, Smart, And Funny As Hell!!!! I Also Like The Interesting Stories Of Your Lifes Journey !!! The Video You Made About Cleaning Up And Vacuuming At Your House, When Your Bride Set A Vacuum Out So You Wouldn't Forget To Vacuum, That Had To Be One Of The Most Funny Things That I Ever Saw!!!!!!!😁😁😁😁😁😎😎😎😎😎🤗🤗🤗😉😉😉🤣🤣🤣🤣. I Liked It So Much That I Called My Little Sister., So She Could Watch It!!!!! I Loved Your 1-2 Hr. Video Interview With Some Other Guy / Climber , Where You Had Given An Interview And Had A Couple Of Beers Maybe, And Just Layed Everything On The Line. Spoke Nothing But Truth, No sugar Added !!! It Was Fantastic!!!!! Put Some Small Solar Rechargeable Flashing Lights On Top Of Dave's Helmet ,Vest, And Shoulder Protective Gear!!!!!! Like I Said Before """"""Cat Women"""""" Better Watch Out Cause Batman Ain't Got Shit On You!!!!!!!!😁😁😁😁😁😁😎😎😎😎😎😎🤗🤗🤗🤗😉😉😉😉😉😇😇😇😇😊. Still Waiting On The """""Batman Parachute"""" Invention That I Described In One Of My Previous Comments!!! God Bless, Mate And Be Safe!!!!! Keep On Making Videos!!!!!!
While watching the pre - look at the job and saw that tree on the hill side, I think I would have used the winch with the pulley way up top and brought the work line to 3/4 way up the tree and cranked on the winch and let the tension take it up hill when it was cut. And it also wold have pulled it closer to the hedge. Just thinking out loud. Do you think that would have worked out?
I kept waiting on the saw playin up when your were cutting,wasnt till the end of the video i realised you meant toothache not a bad tooth on the chain 😂
Hope you've gotten the tooth dealt with by now. I know how uncomfortable a bad tooth can be, I've had just about every procedure I can think of. Anyway, great video as usual! Please include some piano playing if you're up for something like that. Peace
Hi Reg, thanks for the Video - nice it made it to RUclips! Hope your tooth is better. I'm realy looking forward to get this new device of yours shipped to germany - want to give it a try ! Best Regards, Fabian P.S.: You're still the only one I whrite comments to :-)
Rip sawing the large diameter cookies in half to make them easier to manhandle to the drop zone is a nice touch. Any updates (beyond the info of your Part 3 video) on the mechanical prusik project?
Good call ziplining would have been more trouble than it was worth I think, Went pretty smooth for a two man crew Nice work as usual good to see ya Reg.
Gday Reg, can't help you with the zip line conundrum, Its not funny how we are unable to concentrate on the task at hand under certain types of pain.your ute looks a bit like mine we don't carry to many passengers, all the best 👍.
Still watching just wanted to comment about not backing the chipper around the corner. A front receiver makes that possible. It takes a minute to unhook and rehook but when talking about all the back and fourths for those trees it’s well worth it. Not something most think about, but especially with single axel chipper it’s just silly what you can do with it set up that way. You get into enough tight job sites to justify it.
All consuming pain, remember I had a tooth pulled and it was funny holding it in my fingers thinking “this little thing, causing me all that turmoil!’ Relief
Ready for a good true story? I slammed a finger in a car door and there was blood buildup under my nail. It really throbbed with pain. Went to the doc & he pulled out an alcohol lamp a paper clip, which he straightened out. I said "you're not going to do what I think you are, are you? " He said "you won't feel a thing, lay your hand out flat". He heated the tip of the paperclip red hot, and pressed it into the fingernail while spinning between his thumb & forefinger. In less than a second, it had melted through, and as the blood spurted out, the tip instantly cooled. The pain was totally gone in that instant! He then told me, "I lose a lot of patients this way". He was to doctoring, what Reg is to treework. I was incredibly sad when he retired 😢
Mr Coates, I just got the RC4600 new version of your arbor trolley. I’m curious if you were involved in the redesign and if yes, can you please review it in one of your videos. As always I’m looking to see your next video. Thanks a lot.
@@Recoates Excellent, I have a 372xpw with a high top filter and a modded muffler. I love the sound off it, if Satan had a saw that would be it! Good to see Husky haven't dropped the ball with the 572xp, 👍💪🪓🌲🇮🇪
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I say about the same things during pre-climb planning often. My version is,
“I’ll go up there and see what happens.”
No matter how disjointed it may seem to be I'm still going to watch it and give it a thumbs up. This is hands down my favorite tree channel and I watch all of them.
Buckin Billy Ray is awesome too, and if not for him I might not know Reg. What a blessing to find him and I feel a lot the same. Reg makes it loo so easy, like any true master can.
Buckin and Guilty of Treeson are my go to channels
The man who gave me the belief I could overcome my fear of heights and learn to climb.. I'm deeply grateful to guys such as August, Jacob and especially yourself Mr.coates.
You said in your last vid about struggling to find motivation for entertainment videos , your videos although entertaining are also educational and inspiring. Thank you for taking the time and effort. Warrington UK
“It’s a simple tree”
Proceeds to show a consequence riddled situation. Reg you’re the man.
We still all like watching you work. Thanks for the footage.
Hey bud your everywhere on line lol talked to other day on the iron horse . Keep making content iv Ben thinking about getting a camera an starting to do some stuff I climb as well but il be straight up I’m no reg coats up there he make it seem so effortless lol I’d have dirty underwear climbing some the stuff he does lol
@@scotttam7491 hey man! You should definitely start recording your work! Editing is still something I’m getting used too. But I agree. Reg is definitely THE man. Ive learned a lot from him.
Thanks for continuing to post Reg, we all learn a lot from you. Much appreciated sir.
Thanks Reg, Top job, always good to be with you on the video, keep on the good work, cheers brother.
Quiet communication, a bit of praise ,watching out for your mate , a lot of people should learn from that .really good stuff
I think you made the right choice just slashing it down and making everything manageable for your man Dave to just get in and grab what he can between cuts.
Sometimes you just gotta piece it all out. Good Job Reg keep your videos coming I learn a lot watching you work.
Reg- hope you're feeling better. I learn something every video you put on RUclips so don't ever think it's mundane. Thanks Cheers from Rhode Island
Watching your videos is so relaxing for some reason, I don’t know why. Also I also enjoy the spacey music coupled with the higher climbing, it’s like some sci-fi other world up there.
Quite mesmeric - both the dismantle and the music. Thank you.
Always appreciate when you upload a new video, Reg! Cheers!
I know from old/recent videos you have showed disinterest in filming the mundane and boring side of tree cutting but i honestly think i speak for everybody when i say that we will watch everything you post. It is super fuckin intertesting and definetly something cool to watch, i hope you dont give up on this because it is awesome and we will make you a millionaire from this "repetitive content" -said by you
I’ll do my part too. Reg is incredible to watch no matter what. I like his takes on things too.
Hey Reg, I really appreciate the sense of quiet you bring to your work. Hope that makes sense, it’s helped me a lot. Thank ya sir!
Hi reg, as a fellow Brit who used to work in the sawmill trade and fell occasional trees, not top roping like what you do, but you do a brill job and good commenting on how to assess the situation..Well done!
Thanks for taking the time to post. It always make for an interesting watch.
All the time and work you put in to your videos is much appreciated . I always gain knowledge and insight. The smooth methodical efficiency you demonstrate is amazing.
Thanks fella for the entertainment, stay lucky, stay safe! 😉🇬🇧
Man o man I love your videos! Thank you Sir!
Yes - it was worth it - well worth it. Much rather see this than any amount of boyz-havin-fun banter-as-entertainment confection. Thanks, Reg.
I watch a few channels, Reg & two others are in my top three!
(I don't want the other two guys to feel bad)
Love yah Reg, thanks for showing us all what you do. I always learn something new.
Thanks for the video, even with the sore tooth.
Oil of Cloves helps ease a painful tooth , you can keep a small bottle of that in your med kit . It also has antiseptic properties so helps reduce any underlying infection . All the best Reg .
Thanks
It taste terrible but works I’m goin threw a tooth problem myself
Gday Gordon, mum used that on us as children it seemed to help, she uses Eucalyptus oil as perfume so she's a bit different 👍.
@@ishure8849 I haven't used it for years although I have some at home "in case" , I worked at sea for many years and we kept some in the med kit on board most vessels I worked on , it's not a fix of course but will help the sufferer until proper care can be had . I quite like the smell of Eucalyptus oil , probably helps keep flies and mosquitoes away too 🙂
Thanks Reg. Your wisdom is legendary!
Hey Reg, sorry your tooth is bothering you. Just something else to distract you from the job at hand. Frustrating.
I've been dealing with a broken tooth for a few months now and I take a ton of tylenol and ibuprofen. It's a terrible idea but it's been holding me over until I can get something done about it.
This is NOT one of the "worst vidoes you've ever made".
Every time you upload a video, tree guys around the world tune in to watch it no matter what.
You're THE OG tree guy. Hope you get to feeling better.
Greeting from Tennessee, US.
And I tell you what reg tooth pain is one of the worst pains I ever had in my life I hope you get it fixed and you feel better God bless buddy
The OG who I have the most respect for out of anyone! 👍
Thank you!!! Enjoyed the whole thing. And the sound of the electric saw is somehow comforting
Being that I worked hard and tried to keep a professional manner up , I do like seeing a professional apply his craft. Great video getting the job done and filming it. I like that you do a scan around the horizon
Great video I love the less edited videos. I like the sound of the saw and watching the whole process. 👍👍
Nice job man and thank you for all you do for the industry
Man, it's so nice just sitting in the harness throughout the limb removal. Once I've put a high tie in point, I know in my head, this tree now belongs to me. I can do whatever I want to it.
Even you having aches it look really smooth, fast but not rushing. 👍 Cheers from cold and white Finland.
It's always good watching you I learn something new every time
Happy new year Reg. Best of luck, earnings and health to you and your family in the 2023.
Hey Reg it was enjoyable to watch thanks for sharing
Sometimes less is more when it comes to rigging. I like to zip things in 2 scenarios: 1) If I can cut out a lot of tricky terrain by doing so. 2) If it's a bit breezy and I need the control. Great video man, I appreciate the effort put into it.
Thank you Reg.
Hope the tooth problem gets fixed.
Regards.
Ohhhhh look at that climbing device 👀 good stuff and glad to see some tree videos 💪
Awesome! You are so focused even with the pain
Everybody needs a Dave.
Always worth watching
Keep on making video Reg. I watch it like the way I watch the discovery channel. One day perhaps you can consider packaging it all together into a collection. I would totally buy the DVD or whatever format it comes in.
Great Video! Thanks for making it in spite of your tooth pain!! Get well soon I hope!
It's always nice to see another Coates video. That saw seemed very sharp, do you have a narrow gauge chain on it? Best wishes to you and your family Reg. Take care of that tooth!
Hi Dave. I dont have the exact number but yes it is
Great to see a video Reg
Hey Reg, interested in the new friction device I see you're using! When you're climbing up on your spurs with just your hands, is the rope weight enough to self tend through the device? I notice you tend some slack at the end of your climbs, but it doesn't seem like much. Thanks! Looking forward to its release to find out some more details
The rope will fall through once you get some l length/weight in the tail end.
Speed lines are handy, but they're not the answer to every job. I wouldn't have set one up either. Good to see you again, thanks for filming
Hope you got your tooth fixed and feel better, it was a fine vid, it's about the work done and done well!
Good to see you again:)))
So majestic, smooth
I hope you get that tooth taken care of Reg!
Thank you for your video.
All in all Not a bad video Reg , you did a good job editing , and the music was a good fit . Ive had 10 root canals and Nothing sucks worse then a tooth ache .
Thats an expensive set of chompers there!
Hey reg great to see a vid I’m sure you Ben super busy with your new products. I can’t wait to try it out. At first I’m like idk about the handle but I’m sure it goin to be great it seems to work well for you in this vid
Really enjoyed this video
A great video with everything good, i have no more teeths since 5 years and had so many pain with, thanks for sharing this, I imagine how painful it was, cheers from Luxembourg 🇱🇺 europe, 40% of wood
Between the golden lighting and the music you chose watching you work the limbs was very Zen Reg! Hope that you got that tooth sorted out by now?
You Are The """"""""Cats Ass"""""""" Mate!!! It's real Good To See You Back !!!!! Sorry About the Tooth Ache !!! Tooth Aches Are A Pain In The Ass !!! The All Natural Footage And Sound Are O.K. I Like It That Way !!!! (I Do Also Love The Music Background Choices ) They Are Real Good!!!! . I Love Watching You On RUclips!!!! All Your Videos Are Good !!!! I Don't Think You Can Make A Bad Video !!! You Are One Of The Very Best / Favorite Guys / Videos that I Love To Watch!!!!! Even When You Just Have Informative Videos On Life And Or The Journey Of Your Trade !!!!! Even When You Are Working On Something Work Related, Like A Device On Your Chipper or A Brand New Invention For The Tree Work Industry!!! To Me You Are Extremely Interesting, Smart, And Funny As Hell!!!! I Also Like The Interesting Stories Of Your Lifes Journey !!! The Video You Made About Cleaning Up And Vacuuming At Your House, When Your Bride Set A Vacuum Out So You Wouldn't Forget To Vacuum, That Had To Be One Of The Most Funny Things That I Ever Saw!!!!!!!😁😁😁😁😁😎😎😎😎😎🤗🤗🤗😉😉😉🤣🤣🤣🤣. I Liked It So Much That I Called My Little Sister., So She Could Watch It!!!!! I Loved Your 1-2 Hr. Video Interview With Some Other Guy / Climber , Where You Had Given An Interview And Had A Couple Of Beers Maybe, And Just Layed Everything On The Line. Spoke Nothing But Truth, No sugar Added !!! It Was Fantastic!!!!! Put Some Small Solar Rechargeable Flashing Lights On Top Of Dave's Helmet ,Vest, And Shoulder Protective Gear!!!!!! Like I Said Before """"""Cat Women"""""" Better Watch Out Cause Batman Ain't Got Shit On You!!!!!!!!😁😁😁😁😁😁😎😎😎😎😎😎🤗🤗🤗🤗😉😉😉😉😉😇😇😇😇😊. Still Waiting On The """""Batman Parachute"""" Invention That I Described In One Of My Previous Comments!!! God Bless, Mate And Be Safe!!!!! Keep On Making Videos!!!!!!
I'd say you did pretty well, sorry to hear about your tooth ache
A job well done is no accident.
While watching the pre - look at the job and saw that tree on the hill side, I think I would have used the winch with the pulley way up top and brought the work line to 3/4 way up the tree and cranked on the winch and let the tension take it up hill when it was cut. And it also wold have pulled it closer to the hedge. Just thinking out loud. Do you think that would have worked out?
I kept waiting on the saw playin up when your were cutting,wasnt till the end of the video i realised you meant toothache not a bad tooth on the chain 😂
Lol !!
I feel so much better when you are double tied in (21:38) ❤
Enjoyed the video. Very nice work.
Hope you've gotten the tooth dealt with by now. I know how uncomfortable a bad tooth can be, I've had just about every procedure I can think of. Anyway, great video as usual! Please include some piano playing if you're up for something like that. Peace
Looks like the Akimbo and the Hitch Hiker had a baby!😉
Climbing device looks great! Been there before with the tooth ache in the tree's. It's terrible.
Hi Reg, thanks for the Video - nice it made it to RUclips! Hope your tooth is better. I'm realy looking forward to get this new device of yours shipped to germany - want to give it a try ! Best Regards, Fabian
P.S.: You're still the only one I whrite comments to :-)
Thank you, Mr Coates.
ALLWAYS GREAT CONTENT.....
Rip sawing the large diameter cookies in half to make them easier to manhandle to the drop zone is a nice touch.
Any updates (beyond the info of your Part 3 video) on the mechanical prusik project?
Your the man reg good job 👏
Reg do you know what happened to Johnny quick as he’s not uploaded a vid for years??
I enjoyed the 'ambient' or 'minimalist' overdub... so, thanks! What was the music?
Hope your toothache has got better.
Hey buddy how are you excited for video God bless reg hope all is well
Good call ziplining would have been more trouble than it was worth I think, Went pretty smooth for a two man crew Nice work as usual good to see ya Reg.
Great video, thank you!
Gday Reg, can't help you with the zip line conundrum, Its not funny how we are unable to concentrate on the task at hand under certain types of pain.your ute looks a bit like mine we don't carry to many passengers, all the best 👍.
Merry Christmas Reg 👍.
Hey, amazing job! Just curious what that rope device you were using primarily was? Love the channel and energy, keep it up and stay safe.
It's home made
@@Recoates stunning, any chance you could do a video on it. Would love to see more about it. thanks for the reply!
Still watching just wanted to comment about not backing the chipper around the corner. A front receiver makes that possible. It takes a minute to unhook and rehook but when talking about all the back and fourths for those trees it’s well worth it. Not something most think about, but especially with single axel chipper it’s just silly what you can do with it set up that way. You get into enough tight job sites to justify it.
I could reverse the chipper around the corner, but not the truck. It's too wide to fit.
@@Recoates oooohhh. Well I’ll shut up then🤣 thanks for a great vid Reg!
All consuming pain, remember I had a tooth pulled and it was funny holding it in my fingers thinking “this little thing, causing me all that turmoil!’ Relief
Ready for a good true story?
I slammed a finger in a car door and there was blood buildup under my nail. It really throbbed with pain.
Went to the doc & he pulled out an alcohol lamp a paper clip, which he straightened out.
I said "you're not going to do what I think you are, are you? "
He said "you won't feel a thing, lay your hand out flat".
He heated the tip of the paperclip red hot, and pressed it into the fingernail while spinning between his thumb & forefinger.
In less than a second, it had melted through, and as the blood spurted out, the tip instantly cooled.
The pain was totally gone in that instant!
He then told me, "I lose a lot of patients this way".
He was to doctoring, what Reg is to treework. I was incredibly sad when he retired 😢
Thank you, I enjoyed it.
The nice thing about hard concentration, is you forget your problems, and maybe, hopefully, a toothache as well.
👍👍👍
Wow 19:57 that ascent! I assume the device is not tethered to a neck tether but it is completely frictionless🙌🏼🔥
Its hooked up to my chest harness. For ascending. Probably cant see it in the vid
@@Recoates still pulls slack like a beast, thank you for reply!:)
Kren salam silaturahmi🙏🙏🙏
New gear at work!!
Itchin to get my hands on one
Did you make enough to afford a dentist?
Absolutely. Jw
Mr Coates, I just got the RC4600 new version of your arbor trolley. I’m curious if you were involved in the redesign and if yes, can you please review it in one of your videos.
As always I’m looking to see your next video. Thanks a lot.
No, I didn't have anything to do with it, nor have I really looked at it
Great Video Reg, what size of Husky did you use to chunk down that Fir?
572 with 32" bar
@@Recoates What's your opinion on the 572xp Mr Coates?
@@TheToolnut as stock, very good. With a muffler mod, it becomes a demon.
@@Recoates Excellent, I have a 372xpw with a high top filter and a modded muffler. I love the sound off it, if Satan had a saw that would be it! Good to see Husky haven't dropped the ball with the 572xp, 👍💪🪓🌲🇮🇪
You must have strong teeth to cut trees with them, bad or not. 🙂
Aka the father of august hunicke
i think hes part owl
🖐
Nothing worse the nagging pain hope things improve on that front !