Idk I hate this gameplay loop of RSS spam. It has higher MVs that TCS. And also the charging mechanic is god awful for console/controller players. Maybe with focus and rebalanced MVs it'll be really great tho
@@Hectic2525 it is a bit spammy, but you're still doing smaller combos in between less valuable openings which keeps it a little more interesting. im purely happy ig finally gets a strong move that isn't annoying to pull off or handle like diving wyvern. i don't know if ig needs anymore nerfs either chief. the weapon has gone through so much shit from base world onward. Cyclone slash is very powerful yes, but it's not that good on smaller targets, you still have to make sure you're in a position to get all the hits and it dumps all of your extracts for using it in which you have to waste a little time gathering them back. i personally think the payoff of it being so powerful is worth.but yes controls dogshit
agreed, the unholy acts i have to do with my fingers is not comfy. alot of people are voicing their opinions about the controls so hopefully it reaches capcom's development team.
@@Pragles since you're using a PS controller, have you tried using gyro? It can solve alot of problems. On Switch some speedrunners used it for MHRSunbreak Bow runs to track the monster head close up
@@Gomeshiro i didn't even realize gyro was available for kinsect controls. i probably still won't use it tho, i've never been a big gyro user tho. it feels awkward for me to move the whole controller around. 😅
@@Pragles gyro can be enabled whenever you hold/toggle L2, it works for anything: slinger, hook, focus, gunner reticle if its anything like Dragon's Dogma 2 gyro, you can pump up the sensitivity slider so you won't have to turn the controller that much
Good news! i heard that capcom has taken all of the feedback into account and are adjusting the control inputs for some moves, and are adding a bounce or two for the aerials.
im absolutely loving the new moves. rising cyclone is so good and going to get even better once we get the full game hopefull7, but the controls for pads are very annoying to get use to.
@@Pragles yeah how are you dealing with charging moves and moving the camera at the same time ? I find it very annoying especially to aim properly a charged insect to get buffs :/
i think my biggest issue with wilds ig (as a pc user so controls isn't too bad) is the fact they made it into a charge weapon. it just makes even the ground combos feel clunky to me.
the charge is definitely not the easiest to get use to, it's especially weird whenever you wanna roll out of the way or incorporate the charge in between your other ground combos.
Liking the new IG now except the charging mechanics. It's feels awful sometime that I'm holding the charge button only to realize it's not charging at all.
Optimal loop is probably hold O to charge while weaving in Triangle attacks then doing the full whirlwind combo now right ? Im honestly cool with that since the combo looks cinema af but the controls seriously needs to be changed, along with forward thrust too, that shit is so slow now.
for downs and bigger openings, yes. but you can let go if he does a move without much recovery and do your smaller moves. just make sure you're using focus mode for the extra kinsect attacks.
and yes controls need updating, the new forward thrust maybe slow, but you can close distances with it pretty well. you can also move in whichever direction you want if you're in focus mode. i do miss the enhanced dual thrust from previous games tho 😅
i find leaping into the air and maneuvering accordingly when needed into descending thrust and rising spiral slash when there are no big openings also helps to do some damage or at least something. i find myself being a tad passive when only waiting for an opening for Strong Descending Slash > Rising Spiral.
So many youtubers claiming the weapon is bad or dead without even knowning how it works but thank god there are still some people here that know how to play this weapon.
exactly, helicopter being gone is not a good idea still, but there's so many more things you can still do with the weapon that are so much cooler and effective. it's getting old seeing people doompost about this weapon
I still don't like it not because of the dmg but because it's not aerial anymore. The main reason why I prefer Sunbreak over Iceborne is literally because Insect Glaive in Sunbreak is just the epitome of the word AERIAL. It was so fun darting around mid air while fighting a flying monster. Forcing a flying monster to fall down is satisfying and it was what made me love Insect Glaive in both Iceborne and Sunbreak. How the sky king has fallen. Removing all that in Wilds is basically removing the fun and identity of the Insect Glaive for me. Aerial will be missed
Honestly, I still like the new aerial move set. DarkHero made a tutorial on the aerial + ground combo + rising slash + focus strike and it is GOOD. But I do hope they'll remap some of the buttons on the final game since they were a bit awkward.
aerial still has a good amount of tool. even tho helicopter was gutted, you can still cancel it into descending thrust which is super cool! all the other moves as well are god sends for this weapon if they don't nerf in full release. im very excited for the future of ig.
For the rising spiral attack, they should reserve a slot in the kinsect charge for each color, I've seen multiple time that you got all three colors in the rising attack but one of them got overridden by a duplicate and you ended up not getting triple buffs because of it
In general too, they should make it that if your kinsect is holding a color, it can't hold a duplicate of that color since there's no benefits in him having 2 reds in hand, for example
It looks a little lackluster when, after performing the cyclone slash, your character just drops down. I wish there was an aerial follow up for a finisher after cyclone. It could make the rotation loop feel more complete.
Aside from the other questionable things controls are just god awful. They should've bind new charged attack to the finish of triangle combo instead of double slash for example, idk, but right now charging it is just pain in the ass. And why do we have to turn focus mode on at all times for kinsect to attack? It's stupid af. Great run!
Great run! I have to ask tho, why do i barely see ig runners do the Descending Thrust? Can you not do it after the tornado attack, or is the damage too low?
you can do it after Rising spiral slash but you have to have red extract. descending thrust is still going to be your main tool for vault chase down punishes, but it did get a huge damage nerf. i think it lost like 20 something total motion value compared to iceborne's DT. Descending slash is like 144 total MV so that's the one i opted doing the most before RSS
@@Pragles Tied to red buff AND there's a huge damage nerf? What a shame, and no wonder I barely see it used now. Btw, what's Descending Slash? Is that the ground move where your character spins horizontally while slashing?
It may be an unpopular opinion, but I do love the new IG gameplay for Wilds! Used IG a lot in World and Iceborne, so Im quite fine with this iteration as long as it is fun! Though, Im somewhat uncertain how it plays with Controller. Played with Keyboard and Mouse which felt great in World!
i heard keyboard and mouse was much easier to play on the weapon. i play controller so it's definitely harder to play, but if you have the dexterity, it's not the worse to get use to on controller. Wilds IG was definitely not fun at first but once i got used to the new controls, the new moves are really fun to use. rising cyclone slash is one of my favorite moves we've gotten in a long while (Rip Awakened Kinsect Attack tho). it is sad to see alot of people say the weapon is dead just because helicopter is gone, even tho the weapon got so much cool shit.
Lmao, get ready to spam full release. controls aside, i think IG got alot of good new tools, really powerful moves and it can still attack while charging which most other charge weapons can't do. i think there's alot to be excited for ig other than the controls
it's definitely alot more different coming from rise, but it's quite fun. getting use to the control may take some time tho and there's a couple bugs with charged bug harvest that needs some fixes.
How much money did you spend on your pc?!? How can people have this clarity while mine looks like a bad rendered ps1 game 😭 don’t know if at this point I should buy it for the ps5 , I get that I have a couple point below the recommended vram but even world with the higher texture pack that goes 1gb and a half over my vram runs like magic , wanted to pre order it immediately but I’ll have to wait for the demo and try it on both (yes I get that this is a bullshit old version simply to test network stuff and get some feedback but still, runs like shit for me and many other with set ups light years above mine )
im actually on ps5. yeah pc is really not optimized for this game. monsters with shit textures, literally losing body parts, inconsistent framerates and very washed out textures. i feel bad for you guys, hopefully they do fix that, cause that's unacceptable.
capcom hosted a community stream awhile back showing that it they've added it back and made some other changes to the weapon by also giving it it an offset at the beginning of descending slash. we won't get those changes tho until the full game release, they won't be present in beta 2
brother, i don't just speedrun all the time. i play the game casually too when im making sets or playing with other people. i still speedrun cause that's also what i enjoy doing with my time. play the game how you want to and don't worry about what other people are doing chief. 👍
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IG is not dead! my ig brothers and sisters.. we have won 🗿🍷 nvm, the arkveld cope is at an all time high
Idk I hate this gameplay loop of RSS spam. It has higher MVs that TCS.
And also the charging mechanic is god awful for console/controller players. Maybe with focus and rebalanced MVs it'll be really great tho
@@Hectic2525 it is a bit spammy, but you're still doing smaller combos in between less valuable openings which keeps it a little more interesting. im purely happy ig finally gets a strong move that isn't annoying to pull off or handle like diving wyvern. i don't know if ig needs anymore nerfs either chief. the weapon has gone through so much shit from base world onward. Cyclone slash is very powerful yes, but it's not that good on smaller targets, you still have to make sure you're in a position to get all the hits and it dumps all of your extracts for using it in which you have to waste a little time gathering them back. i personally think the payoff of it being so powerful is worth.but yes controls dogshit
i dont care about helicopter, but i still cant get used to what they did for grounded combo. the dude who came up with this is a sicko.
agreed, the unholy acts i have to do with my fingers is not comfy. alot of people are voicing their opinions about the controls so hopefully it reaches capcom's development team.
@@Pragles since you're using a PS controller, have you tried using gyro? It can solve alot of problems.
On Switch some speedrunners used it for MHRSunbreak Bow runs to track the monster head close up
@@Gomeshiro i didn't even realize gyro was available for kinsect controls. i probably still won't use it tho, i've never been a big gyro user tho. it feels awkward for me to move the whole controller around. 😅
@@Pragles gyro can be enabled whenever you hold/toggle L2, it works for anything: slinger, hook, focus, gunner reticle
if its anything like Dragon's Dogma 2 gyro, you can pump up the sensitivity slider so you won't have to turn the controller that much
This gameplay is so grounded that it reminds me of MH4U IG days and I'm all for it
grounded ig for the win 🗿 new moves making me feel like anime character 😂
Good news! i heard that capcom has taken all of the feedback into account and are adjusting the control inputs for some moves, and are adding a bounce or two for the aerials.
they said they weren't changing the controls at all when they went over weapon balances in the community stream that happened about a month ago
I really hope Focus skill is a gamechanger for us cause the charge mechanic especially on controller makes me feel slow af
I hope focus allows us to charge the new super during Tornado Slash, would be nice to have that as an option without the slight pause.
Dude, this is so cool! Now we just need a control scheme rework or the ability to remap buttons.
im absolutely loving the new moves. rising cyclone is so good and going to get even better once we get the full game hopefull7, but the controls for pads are very annoying to get use to.
@@Pragles yeah how are you dealing with charging moves and moving the camera at the same time ? I find it very annoying especially to aim properly a charged insect to get buffs :/
i think my biggest issue with wilds ig (as a pc user so controls isn't too bad) is the fact they made it into a charge weapon. it just makes even the ground combos feel clunky to me.
the charge is definitely not the easiest to get use to, it's especially weird whenever you wanna roll out of the way or incorporate the charge in between your other ground combos.
3:16 how did you flash pod without sheathing? Also did you have to leave focus mode to sheathe?
use R3 in focus mode
@@Pragles ty
you can use pod in focus mode without sheathing weapon (rip SnS). And you have to exit focus mode to sheath or you can call sekiret instead.
Liking the new IG now except the charging mechanics. It's feels awful sometime that I'm holding the charge button only to realize it's not charging at all.
that happens sometimes, i find myself losing my charge in between my combos which is annoying
Optimal loop is probably hold O to charge while weaving in Triangle attacks then doing the full whirlwind combo now right ? Im honestly cool with that since the combo looks cinema af but the controls seriously needs to be changed, along with forward thrust too, that shit is so slow now.
for downs and bigger openings, yes. but you can let go if he does a move without much recovery and do your smaller moves. just make sure you're using focus mode for the extra kinsect attacks.
and yes controls need updating, the new forward thrust maybe slow, but you can close distances with it pretty well. you can also move in whichever direction you want if you're in focus mode. i do miss the enhanced dual thrust from previous games tho 😅
@@Pragles Its still there but we need to press Triangle again after the gap close thrust
@@absolutelypeakshitters i dont think i know this move (not english). Could you tell how to do it ?
i find leaping into the air and maneuvering accordingly when needed into descending thrust and rising spiral slash when there are no big openings also helps to do some damage or at least something. i find myself being a tad passive when only waiting for an opening for Strong Descending Slash > Rising Spiral.
well played! that was awesome! IG brotha!
thank you my IG brother 🗿🤝
So many youtubers claiming the weapon is bad or dead without even knowning how it works but thank god there are still some people here that know how to play this weapon.
exactly, helicopter being gone is not a good idea still, but there's so many more things you can still do with the weapon that are so much cooler and effective. it's getting old seeing people doompost about this weapon
I liked insect glaive a lot in the beta, only thing I need to get used to is making sure I get red buff when I do the ultimate spinny move
It's flexible from now on I think if we are not doing TA lmao btw luv ur gameplay bro
I still don't like it not because of the dmg but because it's not aerial anymore. The main reason why I prefer Sunbreak over Iceborne is literally because Insect Glaive in Sunbreak is just the epitome of the word AERIAL. It was so fun darting around mid air while fighting a flying monster. Forcing a flying monster to fall down is satisfying and it was what made me love Insect Glaive in both Iceborne and Sunbreak. How the sky king has fallen. Removing all that in Wilds is basically removing the fun and identity of the Insect Glaive for me. Aerial will be missed
Honestly, I still like the new aerial move set. DarkHero made a tutorial on the aerial + ground combo + rising slash + focus strike and it is GOOD. But I do hope they'll remap some of the buttons on the final game since they were a bit awkward.
aerial still has a good amount of tool. even tho helicopter was gutted, you can still cancel it into descending thrust which is super cool! all the other moves as well are god sends for this weapon if they don't nerf in full release. im very excited for the future of ig.
For the rising spiral attack, they should reserve a slot in the kinsect charge for each color, I've seen multiple time that you got all three colors in the rising attack but one of them got overridden by a duplicate and you ended up not getting triple buffs because of it
In general too, they should make it that if your kinsect is holding a color, it can't hold a duplicate of that color since there's no benefits in him having 2 reds in hand, for example
It looks a little lackluster when, after performing the cyclone slash, your character just drops down. I wish there was an aerial follow up for a finisher after cyclone. It could make the rotation loop feel more complete.
you can do any aerial while you're in the air. they will be un-enhanced tho. but if you have red extract you can charge a descending thrust.
@@Pragles yeah but the cyclone slash makes you lose all buffs so you won't have red extract, it's pretty lackluster atm and quite unnatural flow
Aside from the other questionable things controls are just god awful. They should've bind new charged attack to the finish of triangle combo instead of double slash for example, idk, but right now charging it is just pain in the ass. And why do we have to turn focus mode on at all times for kinsect to attack? It's stupid af.
Great run!
Great run! I have to ask tho, why do i barely see ig runners do the Descending Thrust? Can you not do it after the tornado attack, or is the damage too low?
you can do it after Rising spiral slash but you have to have red extract. descending thrust is still going to be your main tool for vault chase down punishes, but it did get a huge damage nerf. i think it lost like 20 something total motion value compared to iceborne's DT. Descending slash is like 144 total MV so that's the one i opted doing the most before RSS
@@Pragles Tied to red buff AND there's a huge damage nerf? What a shame, and no wonder I barely see it used now.
Btw, what's Descending Slash? Is that the ground move where your character spins horizontally while slashing?
It may be an unpopular opinion, but I do love the new IG gameplay for Wilds! Used IG a lot in World and Iceborne, so Im quite fine with this iteration as long as it is fun!
Though, Im somewhat uncertain how it plays with Controller. Played with Keyboard and Mouse which felt great in World!
i heard keyboard and mouse was much easier to play on the weapon. i play controller so it's definitely harder to play, but if you have the dexterity, it's not the worse to get use to on controller. Wilds IG was definitely not fun at first but once i got used to the new controls, the new moves are really fun to use. rising cyclone slash is one of my favorite moves we've gotten in a long while (Rip Awakened Kinsect Attack tho). it is sad to see alot of people say the weapon is dead just because helicopter is gone, even tho the weapon got so much cool shit.
I’m really not feeling Insect glaive this iteration, gonna have to find a new main, maybe Switch axe this time
Lmao, get ready to spam full release. controls aside, i think IG got alot of good new tools, really powerful moves and it can still attack while charging which most other charge weapons can't do. i think there's alot to be excited for ig other than the controls
feels like a completely different class compared to world's, itll probably take some time to get used to again
it's definitely alot more different coming from rise, but it's quite fun. getting use to the control may take some time tho and there's a couple bugs with charged bug harvest that needs some fixes.
How much money did you spend on your pc?!? How can people have this clarity while mine looks like a bad rendered ps1 game 😭 don’t know if at this point I should buy it for the ps5 , I get that I have a couple point below the recommended vram but even world with the higher texture pack that goes 1gb and a half over my vram runs like magic , wanted to pre order it immediately but I’ll have to wait for the demo and try it on both (yes I get that this is a bullshit old version simply to test network stuff and get some feedback but still, runs like shit for me and many other with set ups light years above mine )
im actually on ps5. yeah pc is really not optimized for this game. monsters with shit textures, literally losing body parts, inconsistent framerates and very washed out textures. i feel bad for you guys, hopefully they do fix that, cause that's unacceptable.
Lame Insect Glaive is dead players vs Chad Insect Glaive is living forever player.
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Wait no helicopters in wilds?😢
capcom hosted a community stream awhile back showing that it they've added it back and made some other changes to the weapon by also giving it it an offset at the beginning of descending slash. we won't get those changes tho until the full game release, they won't be present in beta 2
You guys know you dont need to play optimally every single game right? Noone really cares unless you are top 5% speedrunner which most of you are not
brother, i don't just speedrun all the time. i play the game casually too when im making sets or playing with other people. i still speedrun cause that's also what i enjoy doing with my time. play the game how you want to and don't worry about what other people are doing chief. 👍
rip aerial glaive
and hello rising spiral slash and descending slash 🗿
Literally bing bing wahoo one button to victory
Funny helicopter mode was killed for this. Rise and Generation was a mistake
i wonder how many buttons you need to press to use helicopter 🤔
Genuinely don't know how people are complaining about the weapon. The controls are wack, I get that part, but damn is IG looking amazing in Wilds
if you can get past the controls, ig got way too many cool new cools along with utilizing kinsect attacking along side you in focus mode.