Blackstar ID:CORE V4 - Better Than Ever!

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  • Опубликовано: 24 июл 2024
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    ⏰ Timestamps ⏰
    » 0:00 Intro Jam!
    » 1:55 Welcome Back!
    » 2:10 Introducing Blackstar ID:Core V4
    » 3:23 What We're Looking at Today!
    » 4:20 About the Interface!
    » 5:06 A Battery Pack?
    » 6:04 Clean Warm
    » 6:29 FX
    »11:42 Clean Bright
    » 12:20 Crunch
    » 12:48 ISF?
    » 14:10 Super Crunch
    » 14:56 OD1
    » 15:50 OD2
    » 16:15 3 Second Review
    » 16:25 Tone Control?
    » 16:45 Noise Gate
    » 17:55 Volume?
    » 19:32 Audio Interface?
    » 20:44 Cab Rig Lite
    » 22:45 Randomise!
    » 23:46 Final Thoughts!
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Комментарии • 171

  • @Deepseasurfer
    @Deepseasurfer 6 месяцев назад +12

    New set looks awesome ! And as always, great demo, great playing and lovely people :D

  • @mmiller6873
    @mmiller6873 6 месяцев назад +4

    Diggin the new studio set up. As always, keep these informative vids coming because you all keep me inspired to keep picking up a guitar and playing around. In addition, you always keep me wanting to try out new gear that you test.

  • @todoguitar
    @todoguitar 6 месяцев назад +1

    These amps are great, I got Core 100 some years back and it sounds just right, very comfortable for rehearsing and playing at home. most of my RUclips videos I’ve been recording with this amp. Cheers 🤘

  • @PhreddCrintt
    @PhreddCrintt 2 месяца назад +1

    Superb. I was in on Friday last and chopped in my Katana Mk 2 Head and Blackstar HT-112 cab for the the 40 watt version. My gigging days are over and this will do me nicely thank you!!
    Great video as always guys!

    • @alfianbanjaransari4096
      @alfianbanjaransari4096 Месяц назад

      How does it fare against the Katana head? I'm in a simolar situation, thinking of picking one up just for practicing and minimal tweaking

  • @Parariddle
    @Parariddle 6 месяцев назад +5

    New Set looks smart gents and great video!

  • @neilvandermerwe7781
    @neilvandermerwe7781 2 месяца назад

    I bought the Stereo 40 V4 on Monday. Loving it!

  • @clemmens9682
    @clemmens9682 6 месяцев назад +7

    Blackstar makes some cool little amps. My favorite is the Fly 3

    • @brahmoone
      @brahmoone 4 месяца назад +1

      pretty much the only blackstar worth buying

  • @rauchbdr
    @rauchbdr 6 месяцев назад +3

    These have always been great and so easy to dial in great tones. I wrote Blackstar a while back and said they should put the ID Core amp tech into a pedal.

    • @stoneysdead689
      @stoneysdead689 6 месяцев назад +1

      I want to like Black Star but- I bought their Club 40 tube amp that has digital output on the rear w/cab sim installed- and it sounded great, until it tore up. I put it in stand by- which is how you activate the digital output on the rear so it shouldn't hurt anything- and when I came back from getting something to drink- it wouldn't make a peep. No matter which output you use, no matter if you bypass the preamp- no sound. So, I called BS- they wanted nothing to do with it and told me that if I bought it used- it's not their problem, it's mine. Even had the nerve to suggest I buy a better BS amp- yeah, right. Like I'm going to throw another grand behind the 500$ amp I just bought that tore up. It didn't even make 1 year man- I had it about 6 months.

    • @kevone-eo6pq
      @kevone-eo6pq 6 месяцев назад

      i've had my id core 100 for 5 years and had no problems. @@stoneysdead689

  • @pieterrossouw6869
    @pieterrossouw6869 4 месяца назад

    Bye Fly 3, I'm getting the 10W right now. Cheers for another fantastic review!

  • @brooksroman2918
    @brooksroman2918 6 месяцев назад

    I am loving the new set design, but even more so with that red trunk, it really pops

  • @keithfields1178
    @keithfields1178 6 месяцев назад +1

    I still have a TVP series. I think I would keep this amp over any other in my arsenal. Great, diverse,ease of use, seems a complete package. Black Star is an excellent amp in any flavor. Met Ed Hohay, and he signed it at a local music store seminar. The thing I took away from his presentation is that they are really involved in what their customers are concerned and interested in, engaged I guess would be a better description. I’m sold on everything Black Star.

  • @madsam7582
    @madsam7582 6 месяцев назад +4

    Bass knob = Resonance.
    Treble knob = Presence.
    If you hold the Tap Tempo button, it accesses the secondary use of the knob.

    • @Civic.
      @Civic. 6 месяцев назад +1

      I assumed the same except the amp they showed on the screen did not have a Bass, Treble or Mid knob.

  • @JudgeFredd
    @JudgeFredd 6 месяцев назад +1

    Well done Blackstar

  • @ToddTheJoker
    @ToddTheJoker 6 месяцев назад

    Pete, I love the new dark wood back drop,,,great job sir!

  • @burtsgurt
    @burtsgurt 6 месяцев назад +15

    Pete had some damn good playing in that intro!

  • @alexdenton6586
    @alexdenton6586 Месяц назад +1

    I just bought it and can't wait to get it in the mail.
    These kinds of modeling amps are perfect because they have a headphone output that I can connect to my big JBL PartyBox 310.
    And an amp that is already excellent becomes absolutely incredible when connected to the right speaker system.
    When I feel like it and want to play with something light, I can unplug it and use the amp alone.
    And the Blackstar Architect software is really excellent-intuitive, well-designed where it needs to be, simple, and so on.
    I still keep a tube amp with a 2x12 cab for when I want to change things up and need a big, full sound, but I stick with modeling amps because there's no need for big amps nowadays.
    I even have the little Positive Grid Spark Go.

  • @danielwmwolf
    @danielwmwolf 6 месяцев назад

    Plate...your favorite... specialy when it's empty 😅. So suitle.Loved it.

  • @sansubr
    @sansubr 5 месяцев назад +1

    I have a Blackstar ID Core V3 20W and it is a fantastic practice amp. Many tone shaping features at least for beginners. I like the power adjustment on the V4 - which is a great feature to have. They could have included an FX loop in the 40W though or atleast start including the footswitches with these models.

  • @patrickcarroll1754
    @patrickcarroll1754 6 месяцев назад +2

    Very cool editor interface.

  • @ampman40
    @ampman40 6 месяцев назад

    Oh that set will certainly make Josh Scott happy!

  • @RusoDryLaw
    @RusoDryLaw 6 месяцев назад +3

    Damn, I just got rid of my V3. These things sound amazing, ngl. Might buy another one again just for small rooms and practice.

  • @abject_fail
    @abject_fail 6 месяцев назад

    Honestly what a jam that was

  • @tonybowen455
    @tonybowen455 6 месяцев назад +3

    Man that silver sky se sounds great

  • @patrickagan1071
    @patrickagan1071 6 месяцев назад

    Pete was shredding so hard!

  • @stevieburrows3953
    @stevieburrows3953 6 месяцев назад +2

    Just watched the Video,,I had previously owned the original 20 watt version then I moved on to the 40 watt V2 and after watching your video I plugged my little amp into my MacBook pro after downloading the Architect software and it has just opened up the sounds I want from this little belter.If you can go for the 40 watt version and download that software to adjust the amp to your sounds in your head.The presets loaded in from new are ok but not a "PATCH" on what you can extract out of these little beauty's

  • @DaveyWoodford
    @DaveyWoodford 6 месяцев назад +5

    @Andertons what are those guitar seats#stools you are both using ..? Link …

  • @allalaghi6356
    @allalaghi6356 5 месяцев назад

    Hi and thanks for the great video. Could you tell me please, if this amp would be good with accostic guitar?

  • @chrome_fox6732
    @chrome_fox6732 6 месяцев назад +1

    was just wondering when you guys were gonna put out another video!

  • @AD-kb5ki
    @AD-kb5ki 6 месяцев назад

    I was between this and the debut range. Went for the debut in the end and it is just so much easier to use. Just lets me play and worry about effects later.

  • @Aaaaandcut
    @Aaaaandcut 6 месяцев назад +12

    I still love my v1 ID core, but to be honest if they would just make it Bluetooth and with an app I would upgrade in a heartbeat. I was excited to see V4 being released then let down with lack of that feature. They could be a Katana/ Spark killer if they added an app. I think their tone is better than both of them, but I don’t want to be tied to a laptop to dial in more tones. (First world problems I know), but it’s 2024 keep up or get left behind. Excellent work as always gentlemen!

    • @dubster82
      @dubster82 6 месяцев назад +1

      Couldn't agree more! How does this not have Bluetooth and an app?

    • @tonybowen455
      @tonybowen455 6 месяцев назад +1

      ID core > katana as well imo. If they had a BT app they could compete with the spark.

    • @pjbsailing
      @pjbsailing 5 месяцев назад

      Yeah. No bluetooth to phone kills it for me. I haven't powered up a laptop in yrs.

    • @taxationistheft2.0
      @taxationistheft2.0 5 месяцев назад

      EXACTLY PASS.
      i have a katana mkii100 for home studio but when i want to go outside on the patio or garage itd be nice to have a small amp like the idcore but i dont want to ahve to have a freaking laptop to customize it.

    • @markseymour8365
      @markseymour8365 5 месяцев назад

      @@taxationistheft2.0Perhaps sort your tones out before you go outside? There’s no reason you’d have to be constantly changing settings on the fly - what’s wrong with you?

  • @batmandeltaforce
    @batmandeltaforce 6 месяцев назад +1

    Lovely JAM boyz:) I wish I could play a PRS, that one chimes:)

  • @jimjim7008
    @jimjim7008 6 месяцев назад +1

    Got my Laney GH100L Made in England amp since the 90s and nothing so far despite all the latest tech convinced me to ditch it for something else. Still faithful and in love 😅

  • @shadowsong1
    @shadowsong1 6 месяцев назад

    the amps are cool...but Pete's playing during the intro....just lovely.

  • @RolandN
    @RolandN 4 месяца назад

    Hi guys - I have been considering the Katana 50 as it seems to be OK also for acoustic guitar. Does this amp have a setting for acoustic guitar?

  • @reijerlincoln
    @reijerlincoln 6 месяцев назад +2

    I heard several good tones. Would love to hear more clean tones.

  • @Civic.
    @Civic. 6 месяцев назад +1

    Tone control. You will most likely find you can control the tone controls by holding the tap button while you adjust the gain, volume and ISF. At least that is how Blackstar have handled adjusting parameters with missing physical knobs on their TVP amps in the past so I assume these might be the same. For example on the ID30 if you hold the tap button while turning the ISF control it adjusts the mids on that amp despite it having three less physical knobs than the larger amps you could still make all the same adjustments from the amp.

  • @arnabchakraborty7188
    @arnabchakraborty7188 2 месяца назад

    Does Fender Mustang LT25 has this feature like blackstar ,where I can plug the amp to my phone and use the camera app to record guitar audio and video at the same time?

  • @saml4157
    @saml4157 6 месяцев назад +2

    Cool pedal backdrop guys!

    • @JokeDindonChannel
      @JokeDindonChannel 6 месяцев назад

      I wonder how much $ is on that pedal display... let alone the amps and guitars!

    • @Not-a-GSD
      @Not-a-GSD 6 месяцев назад

      @@JokeDindonChannel
      Just a couple hundred, because it doesn’t include markup.

  • @bukwok
    @bukwok 6 месяцев назад

    core40,20 and 10 , only difference is the size and speaker..? all the function exactly same right.?

  • @joshuamull1867
    @joshuamull1867 5 месяцев назад

    Does Andertons sell the PB1 Battery pack?

  • @phonchanokyaemsophit2322
    @phonchanokyaemsophit2322 5 месяцев назад +1

    Id4 10w or positive grid spark mini?

  • @filtermat
    @filtermat 6 месяцев назад +1

    YEEEES!

  • @zz-.-
    @zz-.- 6 месяцев назад

    I like positivegrid because of the tonecloud. This has nothing comparable, correct?

  • @carlton2457
    @carlton2457 19 дней назад

    I purchased it yesterday

  • @jesperjacobsen2463
    @jesperjacobsen2463 6 месяцев назад

    Good stuff and the studio looks great. I am however quite worried that we are approaching the 1st of february and I haven't seen a single Klon shootout in 2024 yet. You alright guys?

  • @Civic.
    @Civic. 6 месяцев назад

    My only previous experience with an ID Core (IDCore 100) was it sounded great with my head immediately in front of the speaker but as soon as I moved away it just sounded weird and not like a guitar amp. That was as an owner of multiple Blackstar amps including a few TVP amps so it was disappointing. I'd be keen to hear one of these in person to see if that's improved as I no longer own any Blackstar products but I am in the need for a small portable practice solution.

    • @ryanmrcs215
      @ryanmrcs215 6 месяцев назад

      I've found that almost all amps sound good with your head sitting right in front of it. The moment you're off to the side or above, you're no longer hearing the pure tone.

    • @Civic.
      @Civic. 6 месяцев назад

      @@ryanmrcs215 I guess the thing is it always sounds different off axis but the ID Core 100 I tried years ago sounded bad off axis, it was a weird out of phase sound. Pretty much every situation I've ever played has been off axis and the amps I like sound great even off axis. Actually the funny thing was with the ID260 I never really cared much for the Superwide stereo feature until the day I sold it and realised I'd always been too close to it for the feature to shine. I'd always had that turned off but the new owner liked it and asked me to leave it on. We then moved the amp to just outside the door of the next room and it sounded even better.

  • @chrisdaviesguitar
    @chrisdaviesguitar 6 месяцев назад

    I have a mark 1 Blackstar HT Stage 100. Best sound I ever had, no need to upgrade.

  • @NathanMorgan7
    @NathanMorgan7 6 месяцев назад +4

    New set!!! looks almost as good as Pete’s playing😉😜

  • @jimmyjimmy951
    @jimmyjimmy951 6 месяцев назад +1

    Liked and subscribed..👍🇦🇺

  • @stahliwood8755
    @stahliwood8755 6 месяцев назад

    I just bought the Gibson Falcon 20 for 1800 bucks. I also have the Boss Katana 50 MK2 EX.

  • @crappyfellow
    @crappyfellow 3 месяца назад

    What is the footswitch for?

  • @iloveaviation-burgerclub-a8145
    @iloveaviation-burgerclub-a8145 3 месяца назад

    Thinking about a id core 10 plus this pb-1. With a little step down module it can power the amp, the looper and a pedal board. That sounds outdoors. Mad: the pb costs half of the amp 😂

  • @johnr3369
    @johnr3369 Месяц назад

    These are the absolute best for when it’s very late, everyone is sleeping, and you just want to play very quietly. Because you had an idea, and you can’t sleep anyway.

  • @MrSpeed-lt8gr
    @MrSpeed-lt8gr 6 месяцев назад +2

    I don’t know what it says about me that I understand all of Pete’s naughty jokes and double entendres 🤣#inside(h)er #gags

  • @StormdriverOne
    @StormdriverOne 6 месяцев назад +4

    Still my favorite of all the practice amps.

    • @jamescreswell9037
      @jamescreswell9037 6 месяцев назад

      Agree. ID: Core 40 represents the pragmatic balance of affordability and versatility. Pretty much the perfect practice amp for those owning just one amp. Has been singe the original.

  • @elliotgreen987
    @elliotgreen987 6 месяцев назад +2

    We need an Andertons Uncensored channel!

  • @arnabchakraborty7188
    @arnabchakraborty7188 2 месяца назад

    10 watt or 20 watt? Which is best for beginner?

  • @MrShadowofthewind
    @MrShadowofthewind 6 месяцев назад

    I feel no need for any other practise amp now that i have the Laney loudpedal.

  • @Reeree-wp1db
    @Reeree-wp1db 6 месяцев назад +4

    That Chapman tele! 🤤😍

  • @liezelmaeolvida5991
    @liezelmaeolvida5991 4 месяца назад

    Is the PB1 a freebie???

  • @mannyfragoza9652
    @mannyfragoza9652 2 месяца назад

    Im using the older ID30 TVP I like this Blackstar because I can plug into my secret weapon my PA system The ID core V4 can also be plugged into a PA.This model appeals to me because of the Stereo. Im just not sure if the emulation out is in Stereo????????

  • @bryang.6809
    @bryang.6809 6 месяцев назад +2

    Would have liked to hear some non single coil tones.

    • @TomClarkSouthLondon
      @TomClarkSouthLondon 2 месяца назад +1

      You wouldn’t, I took a punt on buying the v10 AWFUL beyond belief 👎🏽

  • @jeg1972
    @jeg1972 6 месяцев назад +1

    I love Fore... Great album 🙂

  • @ivorharden
    @ivorharden 6 месяцев назад

    Why does the room look darker?

  • @outermarker5801
    @outermarker5801 3 месяца назад

    Waiting on the addition of BT which is supposedly on the way for newer models. And I do still wish Core amps had standard EQ controls instead of just ISF (rather than bury them in software)

  • @edwardgrassel872
    @edwardgrassel872 6 месяцев назад

    Hey Pete and Cap. - whats that black victory behind Pete.

  • @JMTrio
    @JMTrio 6 месяцев назад

    I love the new set, it's darker and easier on the eyes! Looks great

  • @mark.guitar
    @mark.guitar 6 месяцев назад

    Loving the new look. Pete lighting his farts has made a great job of the back wall and he didn't even burn the store to the ground!

  • @billwittman0504
    @billwittman0504 6 месяцев назад

    New set is cool, where the giv-a-way Klon???

  • @brycejackson9232
    @brycejackson9232 6 месяцев назад

    The song you're trying to remember was power of love from Huey Lewis and the News

  • @buncobooth
    @buncobooth 6 месяцев назад

    Pete you are mixing up Back to the Future and American Psycho :)

  • @Chip_57
    @Chip_57 6 месяцев назад +1

    Shame they couldn't add the looper that's in the 100

  • @manfredworner8528
    @manfredworner8528 3 месяца назад

    Hi Pete I noticed every time you try to explain something Anderson won’t let you almost in every video
    😂 must be frustrating😊

  • @syedijlalofficial
    @syedijlalofficial 6 месяцев назад

  • @cvanhetkaar96
    @cvanhetkaar96 6 месяцев назад +7

    Owww, lovely and affordable amps, again..😀 ,
    Still,… i wil not buy amps or pedals anymore that require special software to use them to the full..
    why? Well, i have several equipment now for which the software is no longer supported like Fender amp’s, Digitech Multi effect boxes etc., after a few years the manufacturer stops support and removes the websites with presets and rythm patterns and the software ib the device stops working because it cannot reach the right website anymore ..
    so these amps are not for me …

  • @stuartdennis8506
    @stuartdennis8506 6 месяцев назад

    That dragon fruit colour is really growing on me

  • @josearjona3728
    @josearjona3728 6 месяцев назад +2

    I wait for the day that Blackstar get rid of the ISF and install more usable eq or tone stack. Meanwhile, unapelling to say the least

    • @JohnWiku
      @JohnWiku 6 месяцев назад +2

      But muh bri'ish or 'muricain sounds!!!

    • @kevone-eo6pq
      @kevone-eo6pq 6 месяцев назад

      your spelling is unapelling.

  • @kaiying74
    @kaiying74 5 месяцев назад

    7:45 - Pete, I'm pretty sure it was The Power Of Love, not Hip to be Square.

  • @ArizonaMMJ
    @ArizonaMMJ 6 месяцев назад +1

    Still no Bluetooth???

  • @sajisguitar
    @sajisguitar 5 месяцев назад +1

    The USB C is cool, but still on the front panel which obstructs the controls whilst recording on computer. The USB connector should have been on the back panel.

    • @BrandonEht
      @BrandonEht 4 месяца назад

      Buy a right angle cable. I know it’s kinda annoying but that’s the best workaround

  • @hoganshideout
    @hoganshideout 6 месяцев назад

    I like the old brighter set better. New set looks smaller.

  • @JBASH2011
    @JBASH2011 6 месяцев назад +3

    Blackstar MO- Regurgitating the same amp series , over and over, year after year.

    • @Frozenguy1
      @Frozenguy1 6 месяцев назад

      Except for the only really good amps they made, you can only get those second hand: Artisan, Artist & S1.

  • @TheBestGuitaristForReal
    @TheBestGuitaristForReal 4 месяца назад

    Im planning to buy one i currently play a mediocre acoustic.

    • @TheCSteve
      @TheCSteve 2 месяца назад

      Then dont buy that .. Acoustic its not great. Better buy a boss acustic singer or if you want to go allround for more guitars then the katana is better.. It has an acoustic channel and i have made patches .. You know what i share them on the original boss website .. Blackstar Id-Core is good practice amp and songwriting dont expect high end from it.
      Realize sound you hear in the video is not the real sound of the amp in your room, but the line out that is recorded and then you listen it on your speakers .. I hope you understand that. You cant test sound on youtube but you got to hear it for real, and then you can say if you like it .. Succes with your acoustic playing ! I share this to help and not to joke :-)

    • @TheBestGuitaristForReal
      @TheBestGuitaristForReal 2 месяца назад

      @@TheCSteve yeah upon further research i got to know about the Boss Katana 50. I think a better amp than a guitar will lay the foundation as I'll get bored of the tones from Blackstar

    • @TheCSteve
      @TheCSteve 2 месяца назад

      @@TheBestGuitaristForReal take the Katana 100. More options for little bit more.. Black Star id core is good for punkrock 🎸 layer the guitar like Green Day does . Its fun 😁

    • @TheBestGuitaristForReal
      @TheBestGuitaristForReal 2 месяца назад

      @@TheCSteve I'm poor mate

  • @larrydj549
    @larrydj549 6 месяцев назад

    Paint it black?

  • @angrysimguy
    @angrysimguy 6 месяцев назад +2

    Just got a blackstar Debut 50r and that thing is killer, amd takes pedals so well! These look like a real disappointment...hardly any change. Amps nlike this should autmatically be bluetooth connectivity to phone apps. It doesnt even sound good/or any different from the previous itterations. They would be better making it £50 more and putting some real change to these amps. However the Debut 50r is probably my favourite bit of gear ive bought in the last year.

  • @angrysimguy
    @angrysimguy 6 месяцев назад +2

    Sometimes I bury myself in the garden and pretend I'm a carrot

    • @kevone-eo6pq
      @kevone-eo6pq 6 месяцев назад

      sometimes i dress up as a carrot and pretend i'm a garden.

  • @steventhomas231
    @steventhomas231 6 месяцев назад +1

    Not sure about the new background.

  • @robst247
    @robst247 2 месяца назад +1

    Six voices in his head, so hexaphrenic.

  • @festushaggen2563
    @festushaggen2563 6 месяцев назад +1

    Blackstar gets alot of crap from amp snobs but these are great practice amps. I still have my V2 20 watt and I see no reason to part with it. It's portable, sounds good, loud enough but also quiet enough for late night apartment sessions. No complaints.

  • @christiantaylor4027
    @christiantaylor4027 6 месяцев назад

    That was nice but I think I need to be louder....

  • @egg43002
    @egg43002 6 месяцев назад

    Back backboard makes the room look smaller

  • @andrewmarsh3094
    @andrewmarsh3094 6 месяцев назад

    Not a fan of the reverb and delay...sounds too processed

  • @Pim3211
    @Pim3211 6 месяцев назад +1

    8:38 Pete... you're not exactly "young" either 😅

  • @ihasatypo
    @ihasatypo 6 месяцев назад

    The choices these amp manufacturers make baffle me. I want to adjust my unit wirelessly on my iPad (thr has that already for years) and - which I cannot stress enough - give me the effects loop! I do not buy without the ability to loop post signal chain… I mean cmon it’s a practice amp! Seems they never learn, but hey, more “phaser” you’ll never use… argh. I want to use my ditto and practice…

  • @FromTheMosh
    @FromTheMosh 6 месяцев назад

    Wasn't really interested in the amps. I was just eyeing off that Chapman Lee had at the start

  • @krasnibor
    @krasnibor 6 месяцев назад

    Wait what? Blackstar is doing a collab with Volkswagen on a new EV?

  • @ikotsus2448
    @ikotsus2448 6 месяцев назад +1

    Blackstar creator's final words: I got you all ISF does nothing!

  • @msgn8i11s2
    @msgn8i11s2 6 месяцев назад +1

    ISF is THE reason I will not buy one... Wish they droped it and had a standard low mid high...

  • @taxationistheft2.0
    @taxationistheft2.0 5 месяцев назад

    BLACKSTAR ID CORE 40WATT VS POSTIVE GRID AMP COMBO 40 WATT???????????????????????????????????????????????????????

  • @szpyrek26
    @szpyrek26 6 месяцев назад

    OD1 and 2 sound terrible. Super Crunch is ok. Overall I fell like overdrive sounds much better in my Fly3. Just judging by the sound of this video I fell like ID:COREv4 is far behind Katana and Catalyst.