ELECTRIC BIKE UTOPIA: Truths & Lies
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- Опубликовано: 5 июл 2023
- Andrew Millison reviews many aspects of Ebikes, from energy use to practicality, and tries to get up a mountain with his son on one battery charge. Himiway Bikes affiliate Link: himiwaybike.com/AndrewMillison
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For several years, it seemed the dominant message society was pushing regarding sustainable mobility was "get an electric car; that's all you need". It's good to see people are starting to re-evaluate transportation and mobility in the same way we're starting to rethink how we grow food. I think the only sustainable path before us is to build more compact, walkable, bikeable communities, and for us to move about them with our own feet or on electrified public transit. I particularly enjoyed seeing the farmer with the strange ebike tractor thingy, as it shows how the same kind of thinking can spill over into agriculture. Do we really need massive diesel trucks and tractors to power our agriculture and industry? I don't think so. I think we can do just as much with far less if we use electrified trains and bike-based modes instead. I've heard it said that electric cars are here primarily to save the car industry, not the planet.
I would have to agree as well. Electric cars can't save the planet, as the farmer said it's just too many resources for too few people. Electric cars and other personal vehicles may be of use is some circumstances (like ambulances, rural farmers' personal vehicles, etc) but as you said its about designing our communities in such a way that we don't need cars to meet our basic needs and many of our social ones as well.
@@benjaminallisonii724 90% of U.S. and European farmers need ICE-powered tractors and vehicles.
We should shift to more permaculture, small-plot, and greenhouse farming for the table. But we're not there, yet. We could be, very quickly, and will do so more sustainably if we don't push any ONE technology over any other. Abandoning ICE before we have the infrastructure in place for better ways is madness.
The establishment trapped farmers into doing things in unhealthy ways, and now they're trying to turn on a dime and say "We were wrong, before, but now we're right, and we're going to force things, like we did before, only in the opposite direction." The most sustainable solutions aren't forced, but arise naturally.
People sharing ideas, wanting to do better, will get us where we need to be.
All that re-building will come at enormous economic and environmental cost. Work within the framework of what's already built, and remember that every tiny thing you change will have ripple effects, including unintended effects. Fixing things is more a matter of sharing information and LETTING things evolve, rather than MAKING everybody change all at once.
@@harrymills2770 That's exactly why I support carbon taxes, nitrogen taxes, and other taxes on negative externalities. Leverage the power of billions of individual decision-makers all around the world to figure out what's best for their own exact circumstances. There's a reason basically all economists agree carbon tax is the most efficient, cheapest way to solve the climate crisis.
Electric cars are just cars where you push the load on the grid, they're not more energy efficient at all. But it's such a great lie for the car industry to let them sell more cars.
Aside from the e-bike review, what a great family story this is! Your son is so articulate, confident, and nice. I really enjoyed that part of this video.
yes one very cool kid...impressive.
When you double your speed, you quadruple your air resistance - I found that I get much better range from my ebike battery when I set the bike to European settings on the controller (the motor gets limited to 15.5mph). I have a different brand but I'm sure there'll be a setting on yours to do this. Trying to stick around 8-10mph gives me the best range.
I also had to learn to be more disciplined on longer journeys, and turn the pedal-assist off completely (*gasp*) when going downhill for any decent length of time.
Edit: Also, as someone else mentioned - low cost rechargeable battery tech is moving on - from Li-ion to LiFePo, which uses no rare earth metals in the battery chemistry (the sea is full of Lithium, its not rare and it doesn't necessarily need to be destructive to get at it.).
If only there were more super famous RUclips influencers like you Andrew. Great thoughts from the whole family. If a regular bike works there's no need to get an Ebike, but I often come back to a memory I have from walking a gravel trail a few years ago. I was going up a long but steady grade over maybe 1km and I heard the gentle whir of an electric motor over my shoulder. A gentleman who looked to be in his early 80s casually peddled past me. Ebikes just extend the use cases and capabilities for bicycles.
I appreciate that! Good story, they definitely have their uses!
Thank you to the Millisons. Check out strong towns or not just bikes for a breakdown of how much better bike/pedestrian cities are than car centered ones. Love your work.
There a lot of anti-e-bike people out there, even in the urbanist community, but personality, I fully support all forms of micromobility. The goal isn't using a "real bike." The goal is moving away from car dependency. In my opinion, it doesn't matter whether someone uses a bike, a scooter, roller blades, or a skateboard, regardless of whether they're electric or not. Finally having true freedom of movement again and a sustainable future is what really matters.
Yes to the bike and ebike utopia please! Great video of your family adventure with ebikes. I appreciate the logic of your decision to continue using your own bicycle but also your recognition that ebiles cam fill a lot of needs and help people enjoy active transportation even if they sweat a little less. I got my ebike in 2016 and my husband got one a few years later. We still have our conventional bikes but use the ebikes more often. Thank you for all of your great permaculture content, some of which we are trying to establish at our own place. The thing about scaling down the weight of our transportation choices like your friend mentioned is that it is actually more fun to use less resource-intense alternatives, not a sacrifice.
I have an electric car and one shortfall of having an electric car is definitely range anxiety. When you run out of charge unexpectedly, the anxiety is so much higher because your car basically just becomes a huge hunk of metal and you can’t do anything about it except be stranded and call a tow truck or something. I was 2km from my house when this happened and there was no last leg of the journey that I could just pedal or push the car. Being able to pedal a lightweight vehicle is such a huge freedom.
Hellloooo!! I have a bone of contention but first:
Your presentations on permaculture fit many aspects of what I’m trying to accomplish, especially building a home on a tiny piece of land with an early winter sundown, water opportunities, fire break and more.
I just graduated with my masters in sustainability leadership from Arizona State University, so am pretty dialed in on the business side, and can’t get enough of these watershed transformations.
What I’d like to address is:
1. I can no longer pedal well for uphill, bad ankle and sprained the ball area of my hip. But I can ride my ebike with the assist, and I keep it on as hard a pedaling setting as possible. Mine has two wheels, manual gears and brakes, so technically, it’s a BICYCLE with assist.
You and your son are riding it like a moped - so you’re riding it incorrectly, and depending on the bike to do the work for you, not your biophysical machine, IMO.
I use the BICYCLE to run errands, instead of driving my hybrid; both of which have similar battery technology. Furthermore, I can go farther and up steeper hills. And I pedal as hard as I can handle. (Love emphasizing the correct term for a longer distance.)
2. As far as mining and metals - you do look at renewables technology requirements, right? If you’re encouraging people to build new homes.
Please look beyond the “thin slicing” and you’ll have a better understanding. Heck, there are people who take advantage of everything for their own selfish purposes. A strong bicyclist will go screaming along too fast, too. I bet we could find a group of boys your son’s age on standard bicycles who rip by walkers.
I encourage you to look at the e-bike differently and, like it says on every Niner bicycle, “Pedal, damn it!”
The energy needs bit I actually made a spreadsheet for. With a 220lb single occupant going 25 MPH on flat ground here are some highlights, assumed 15% power train losses (motor, battery, gears, etc).
Velomobile (60 psi tire) ~ 90 watts
Road Bike (100 PSI tire) ~360 watts
eBike (30 PSI tire) ~480 watts
Zero FX (EV motorcycle) ~554 watts
Aptera (3 wheel car) ~850 watts
Prius (EV mode) ~1600 watts
F-150 Lightning ~8050 watts
You guys may want to read up more on bateries composition and technology. 09:20 is not factually correct. No rare earth minerals are used in current car batteries. Li is not a rare earth mineral. Also battery technology is progressing very quickly. This once again is factual rather than opinion.
EVs are a real option.
It's a fact that that lower weight and slower vehicles are necessarily more efficient. That's physics.
Great video as always! Thanks for all the great content.
In my opinion if the technologies (EVs, E-bikes, etc.) and polices (subsidies and tax cuts for building/buying EVs) being proposed cannot dramatically cut emissions while maintaining near the same quality of life they aren't worth mass adoption. The farmer in video illustrates well why EVs are ineffective at bringing down emissions. Too many resources for too few people. The issue is the car and truck themselves, they are inherently inefficient at moving people across nearly every distance in comparison to electrified public transportation.
There are papers with calculations on this. All you need to do is read up.
I live in Toronto currently. When considering buying a car, I also have to think about parking and traffic. I think an E-Bike is a lot more compelling in a busy city.
Another thing to consider is that all technology gets cheaper and more efficient, there are very few exceptions. I used to work for one of the largest solar companies in the world (IT work) and I always find it interesting how quickly technological advancement changes the math on these products.
Great switchup from the norm. I'm an avid cyclist myself, but I wasn't aware that electric bikes were part of the hope to break free from car dependent culture.
P.S. What a sick dad
i bet you are proud of your son. He seems like a really good kid.
I really hope they address the regulatory gap that makes high power e-bikes unpleasant for pedestrians without making it prohibitive to get an e-bike by requiring too much testing. Really just a ban on pedestrian paths if they output too much power and do more than pedal assist would satisfy me.
I have a partner who has mobility issues and has trouble getting around my small mountain valley town due to its high changes in incline. It's good to know that an ebike is w viable use for them!
Have you considered making a video about vertical farming and seaweed farming? Seaweed farming is a great, frequently used green that when farmed, can actually restore marine life and their habitats. And there are many types of vertical farming besides just the shelves, like hydroponics and aquaponics. The shelves are also being condensed into small containers machines that are now starting to be used by businesses and even put in markets in Asia as vending machines. Small vertical farming equipment is also being sold off the shelves to consumers so that the common people can start growing their own crops in their own homes and on their roofs. This stuff is revolutionary, yet it isn't getting nearly enough attention. We have so many abandoned big box stores and malls that can be converted into vertical farms, yet the potential of this just isn't being realized yet.
You brought up really great points to think about with ebikes. I agree with you: I still prefer to pedal myself and also their speed makes them dangerous on footpaths and bikeways. Also the whole thing about electric batteries and the mining needed and then no recycling of those batteries.
It's so incredibly frustrating that, through no fault of your own, this video, which is factually incorrect in many respects, has left you misinformed. You are far from alone. The sheer volume of mining required for the electric transportation transition is positively tiny in comparison to the mining involved with fossil fuels, something in the region of 7 million tonnes/yr as opposed to 27 million tonnes for oil, natural gas, and coal combined. Batteries ARE recycled and this farmer is truly misinformed.
great review dude!!!!!.... a good cyclist can be as fast or faster as a bike and may weight more than a kid on an ebike.... i totally agree in that walking paths should be only walking. scooters, ebikes, skates are much too fast. us fast ppl could really use our own lanes pretty plz 😋.... permaculture ROCKS !!!! keep up the good work captain planet 😉 I hope to join the good fight one day!!!
Thanks for sharing this great family adventure!
Our Edible Landscaping Yamhill group has a raffle for a pair of e bikes - it will be interesting to see to whom they go, and how they are used!
A brilliantly balanced and insightful video. Thanks so much for making and sharing it :)
"Dysfunctional to peddle" - I feel like that's true of all the fat tire, low PSI bikes that make up the majority of these.
Motorbikes and scooters are heavier, and faster. That distinguishes them from ebikes.
Regular pedal bikes can go 25 mph. 25 miles per hour is of little concern to me. I live near a bike trail amd people go at moderate speeds.
Think kids need ebikes if they are to go pedaling with adults, or commute to school, etc.
Would love to see pedal vans.
Biking is so nice.
Disappointed your friend isn't polycropping.
Polycropping tends to be overrated by people with no or little agriculture experience.
It's far more important to have a proper crop rotation. Never ever compromise your crop rotation for the sake of polycropping.
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Actually polycropping via restoration ag techniques tends to be underated by people with little expertise in farming. Especially when they think crop rotation is the answer, because crop rotation is annual ag-based and already a failure. It requires a lot of expensive life support in the way of purchased chemical inputs. It requires a lot of maintenance. It is prone to complete failure. It often means bare ground from winter thru spring.
It often leads to farmer bankruptcy, depleted soils, and overpumping of aquifers. The Oglalla Aquifer in the upper Midwest is at about 20%, and we're losing soil quickly such that we'll be trying to grow on hardpan in 45-60 years.
We need polycultures of biome-appropriate appropriate, food-producing, mostly perennials, trees, shrubs and vines, and fewer overall annuals. Polycropping can mean two or more smaller harvests, but also mean less chance of overall catastrophic failure. Livestock are used to control pests, weeds, crop residues, culls, fertility, etc. Thus increasing profit that way, too. It also means less migration work, seasonal housing booms and busts, and more stable local economies. It brings food security back to the community. It supports wildlife better, too, and in a balanced way.
@@b_uppy ohno, I just got "uhm, aktualhy"-ed by a urbanite. How will i ever recover from this.
Jokes aside, I literally run a organic farm 50 ha large, and I'm talking from experience on that one. And soil carbon contents on the lands of my family has been increasing for more than two decades now.
No plough usage, permanent crop coverage and organic farming tends to prevent that.
And we also have the perennials you are dreaming about. If you pay for the workers, and shipment I can give you the hazelnuts, sour cherries, blackthorn, rosehip, acorns, Rowanberries, junipers and all that stuff growing on field boundaries. Sadly, harvesting all this is not economically sensible, so we only harvest what we need ourselves.
The situation is a bit better with apples, pears,domestic cherries, grichal(I can't find a English word for it, it's Cherry sized fruits from some trees of the prunus genus), black and red gooseberries, and a couple others I missed. But while it isn't a outright waste of your time to collect those, it also only is marginally sensible.
And that's exactly where the problem lies. Your dream only works if standards of living are below that of the mid-1800s.
Edit:That in paragraph 3 refers to soil degretation
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Really suggest you look into Mark Shepard and restoration ag. He has systematically figured out how to do exactly what I described, also look into the Savanna Institute. Shepard intercrops food producing trees, shrubs and vInes, and alternates that between rows of grasses, perennials, and sometimes in low land, annuals.
There is a lot more to his methodology than I can list here, read his book. It works because it is biome-appropriate, instead of fighting the biome. He went permaculture organic, instead of Rodale's organic methods (you). You just described your failure to do a paradigm shift.
Your claims mean nothing on the internet, just like your "ad hominem" attack.
@@b_uppy and also, there is a reason that area was known as the "great American desert" back before those Brits settled it. And that reason is that everyone other than those British settlers fucking knew that that land is best left as pastures, and that trying to grow crops there can't end well.
This is a really effective advertisement honestly... I want this bike very bad now actually.
Andrew, how I wish all famous (wink) influencers are like you. No BS, just an honest review.
Hi Andrew, love your videos. I'm a bike mechanic and I totally believe that an ebike utopia is possible, but as with many things, the likelihood of it happening is dependent on several things. First on my list of things would be educating consumers on the difference between an el-cheapo bike from eBay VS an established brand. Cheaper bikes don't last long and end up in landfill and the owners often end up jaded from the experience. Then of course is changing our communities to include cycling infrastructure is vital, not just for ebikes, but for all forms of active transport. Side note, many of my customers convert their existing bikes to ebikes as they want to continue cycling as they age. We have some challenging hills where I live so an ebike is a great way to keep pedalling for longer. Thank you for the excellent content of your videos. I really enjoy what you present here, it's informative and interesting as well as building on my own knowledge of permaculture. 🌳😀
What's worse is that the cheapo e-bikes seem to have more of a tendency to catch fire. Which is bad in itself, of course, especially as lithium battery fires are rather scary, but also it's leading to some scaremongering and backlash - here in the UK I've increasingly heard of landlords banning tenants from having an e-bike on the property.
There are lots of good reasons to stick with a conventional bike as you enumerated here.
Love bikes, Love permaculture, this is perfect. Thanks for sharing
Thank you for involving your son in your project, a wonderful lad
Helpful to know! Thank you!
America is a country, the size of a literal continent, isolated from the rest of the world between them oceans. The only countries neighboring it are Canada and Mexico, two countries that benefit extremely from the US economically as well as culturally. Therefore the entire northern American continent is an isolated bubble that does its own thing.
The rest of the western world is condensed on one continent tightly packed since eons. That's why technology and culture is deeply interconnected and new ideas will get extremely fast incorporated. That's why Europe is a continent of social mobility and security. Mobility takes a huge part in it, trains are everywhere and can take you everywhere, new bike roads are implemented every day and shops are only a few kilometers from every suburban environment, easily reached on foot on bike or public transit.
Something like that is unheard of in the US, only major cities on, mostly, the east Coast are like that and mostly greatly mismanaged. Social media, as a way of sharing information, opens they eyes of many Americans of the great possibilities, leaving a car centric environment behind.
The title should be more honest "Ad: Truths and Lies of the Electric Bike UTOPIA"
These kind of products are intended to use as commute vehicles, precisely to not use a heavier vehicle like a car because it makes sense. It doesn't make sense to expect a wider and heavier tire set to be efficient for long rides because of friction, much less going uphill.
Like the sentiment and good to hear your thoughts but I'm a cyclist in the camp that we should treat ebikes (the >1 horsepower ones that are legal now) as bikes. The total momentum (and theoretical danger to others in a crash) is still very similar to regular bikes, and much less than mopeds or other powered vehicles. Their sustainability chops are real, especially as LFP batteries and newer technologies reduce the need for rare earths, and their batteries are around 100x smaller than EVs and they're 10x+ more efficient per mile traveled. Most of all, they help get people out of cars (and even replacing cars) and create more advocates for sane car-light development.
In Poland, if you want to sell ebike as a bike (not motorcycle) the vehicle can not be moved just by throatle. You need to actually use pedals. Also electrical assist is turned off automatic when you reach 15 miles/hour.
Good thing you were honest about eBikes instead of making this an advertisement. Owning automobiles cost Americans $10k per year. That's one day of work a week and one of the reasons we our cost of living is high for something we use just 4% of a day. That high cost results in jobs moving overseas. Instead, own an eBike for the majority of use and share automobiles when there's a need to move lots of people or things.
Well the laws are quite differently here in Germany. Anything having motor support faster than 30km/h (~18.5 mph) needs a license plate and a drivers license. Most e-bikes therefore only support you until about 28km/h (~17mph) and on these bikes, you actually do have to pedal a lot. It makes uphill cycling much easier and helps you keep some speed, but it feels very much like any bycicle most of the time. I'm a little annoyed at all the people showing me these beefy e-scooters and say "well e-bikes aren't really bikes". These aren't even e-bycicles in my eyes.
Thanks for that. You are making my point exactly, and I'm not surprised at all that Germany has already figured this out!
@@amillison Pedal-assist (pedalec) is the law of the land for all of the EU. So a lot less like electric motorcycles here. But not at all clear if it is actually moving people out of cars, rather than away from public transit.
These things legally aren't bikes in the Netherlands. You get fined if you ride these around on bike paths that don't allow for scooters, which is bike paths inside city centers. (And people get around that rule by taking off the license plate so cameras don't automatically capture them)
Epic Adventure with Your Family! Great memories you will have together! Blessings Abound.
Yes it sure was, we all had a blast! Thanks for watching. :)
8:44 farmer is inspirational. Look into permaculture & Support your local farmers, they feed you! Food Forests, you don’t need any machinery or hardly any labour 🤔
Great video! Good questions being asked about our transportation future.
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching. :)
A great family bond.
Motor scooter with pedals! Calling it as it is! Nice : ) Still hesitant with getting one due to sustainability of the batteries and also the risk of ebike batteries exploding.
I saw the electric farm equipment move, but can it break up a field? I think you need weight to bust up the soil.
Yap, i think same thing...
He is not using it for tillage of heavily compacted soil. He is using it for lighter cultivation that a tractor is overkill for.
What I love about my e-bike is that it allows me, a 55 year old who has horrible arthritis in his knee, to begin biking again and hopefully rehab my knee against the prospect of a full knee replacement -- all despite living in a mountainous area where I would normally have no chance riding a regular bike because the hills just put me in too much pain. Pedal assist on an e-bike is magic to me. I usually ride my ebike on Pedal Assist 0, which means all the power comes from me. But when I hit one of these crippling, painful hills and can't do it even on first gear, I can put my ebike on Pedal Assist 1 or maybe 2 if the hill is steep enough, and make it up the hill without putting myself in so much pain that I never want to do it again. On an ebike, the help from the motor takes the pain out of bicycling, which means I can exercise my way back to health. And meanwhile, when I want to go to the grocery store for milk, eggs, bananas, and a few other things, I just take my ebike instead of the car.
I noticed, Andrew, that you were pedaling in Pedal Assist 3. Maybe that's why you felt your legs weren't having to do any work. I have Pedal Assist 1-5, and never even use 3 or higher. Also, all the decent ebikes these days have a way where you can change the amount of motor assist you receive at any level. So if you find yourself "ghost pedaling" with no resistance because the motor is doing more of the work than you desire, you can just change the settings so that at each Pedal Assist level the motor does less work. You can really dial it in so your bike behaves exactly like you want it to and gives you all the exercise you want.
You should be able to verify if they recharge on the way down.
How can you not have an understanding of regenerative braking? It's meant to return the kinetic energy back into the battery pack. This applies to EV's of most types & manufacturers these days.
These bikes, like hybrid cars, utilize regenerative breaking. So going downhill absolutely gives your battery more charge. It's really cool tech!
Unfortunately most ebikes just aren't heavy enough for regen braking to be useful, so almost all ebikes don't have this feature - including the ones in the video.
The 'recharge' effect that Andrew and his son experienced here is just the difference between the voltage readout when the battery is under load compared to the readout when it's not.
It's a bit like when you leave your car lights on overnight by accident and flatten your battery - when you come back to them in the morning, turning the lights off for 5 mins seems to recharge the car battery a little, and sometimes you get enough energy to get the car started again.
Thanks for the explanation
@@amillison No worries at all.
Thank *you* for all your amazing content, I think I've told you before but if someone asks me a permaculture question, my first thought is always "Does Andrew have a video about this that I can share?"
Your 'whiteboard' explanation videos set the bar that others should be aiming for, my friend. Bravo! 😁
we really need to start focusing on large scale lithium ion recycling to make ev technology more sustainable when technologically feasible
I bet that the injury and accident rates from e bikes are far above those from cars.
Source: Just trust me bro
What a beautiful place! have u made that trip with a good regular mountain bike?
I think that everything that could get people to reconsider their car ownership would be great!
A way out of our oil dependency would make our world a better place.
Is it possible for electric bikes to add on a dynamo to charge the batteries as their pedalled
My $1000 e-bike is a game changer. A bike rack with bags and recharge at work.
5:20 Wow, you got a lot of bushcrafters and survivalists in your area.
Fun video Andrew
i had the same experience with my ebike. it's effortless and fun, but riding a real bicycle is more rewarding and enjoyable. I could see the ebike being used like a utility vehicle, much like trucks should be used currently in our society. However, electric mass transit seams to be the most viable form of moving people around as we transition towards neo-village life or retro suburbia as David Holmgren. Wood gasification is also an untapped means of energy generation that could neatly fit into the transitional ethos of permaculture, as it could sequester carbon if synchronized with successional plantings of food forests.
You live in one of the most beautiful and cleanest part of the world. Outside of Portland, of course :)
Great video, Andrew! - The Ice Cream Man of Doom
Good to hear from you, Bruce. Hope all is well bro :-)
When I want to do sport I use my simple non-electric bike, when (in a near future) I will like to go further I'll use an electric one. If I lived in a mountain or I had to carry some stuff or material (or whatever is big enough), then I would have to use an electric car, van or pickup. According to what some say, electric cars pollute, approx. half than a diesel car (which is a good reduction of pollution), but with the material needed to make a single battery for an electric car it's possible to produce a very big amount of batteries for electric bikes (I don't remember exactly but I think that more than 20, maybe even close to 100, I'm not sure about this but is a real huge amount of batteries).
So, you're 4000 feet up a mountain with dead batteries. What I really want to know is, how much charge did you get coasting back down the mountain?
We Drove 🤐
Glad to hear that the bike recharges while pedalling. Does it have regen braking?
That bike doesn't have regen braking and doesn't recharge while pedaling. What Andrew experienced is the same "voltage recovery" that every battery experiences when it is given a rest between bouts of maximum use. Same thing happens to cordless power tools. That said, there are some bikes that have regenerative braking.
@@ritcheymt Thank you for the information
science lesson kids. a generator is a motor in reverse.
This is a funny coincidence. I've been considering getting one.
e-bikes, or generally e-bikes, should have 'Regenerative Braking' which is what you guys experienced at the end there.
this will be never done, cost/value is not worth it. Is just more economic value to add extra battery capacity.
5:15 that's how you know it's Oregon. Downright dangerous indeed. Homeless camps right next to a skate park.
If there only were battery-swap stations everywhere...
I live my eBike, it makes my year ❤️ 🚲
i literally have my money on sodium batteries
if you're community isn't more than 20 miles, an E-bike is a no-brainer.
No matter what damage ebikes might do the environment they don't hold a candle to the devastation caused by the car
When i see these tents in 5:25 I wonder, what went wrong in U.S :( I remember, growing up in Poland in late 90's-, every single friend I had dreamed about buying ticket and moving to U.S., to live 'american dream'. 30 years later, if you ask any polish teenager, about going to U.S. you will hear answer like: For travel? Sure, but for actual living there? No way, you must be insane! Actually, unless you are like top 1% of IT-AI specialist, no one will even think of U.S. these days.
Do e-bikes require a driver's license like a motorcycle?
No, not at all
Perhaps, it's not that the regulations haven't caught up, but instead, the existing regulations have long ago gone too far. Why must everything be regulated? I thought this was the land of the free?
Ebikes: Getting the old and the overweight to speeds never previously attained.
Our earth doesn't have enough resources for all parts of electric batteries, therefore they are unsustainable. If we got rid of the ol' farts in charge of oil industry it would be better.
I really need an ebike
i can't get the "lies" part.... 🙄😬
The lie is calling it a bike! It's not a bike. It's a motor scooter with pedals...
@@amillison Ah ok... 😬😁 The thing is that many product reviewers (that were offered the product against a video about..) does also some critical reviews and not only sell the thing... I got used to that..😉
Electric cars are a solution to automotive emissions in already very wealthy nations (Norway, USA, Sweden etc.)
They're not a solution to global automotive emissions because we simply can't make that many batteries within the next 10-20 years to replace all cars in the world with electric cars.
If a regular bike can be used, it doesn't make sense to substitute an e-bike, especially for a young person. The benefits of real bicycling totally outweigh any imagined benefits to society of e-bikes. That seems like common sense. Is there something wrong with me?
Tbf the kid does skate so the e-bike is just for transportation. Would have loved one of those when I was his age so I didn't have to walk for an hour and a half to get to the skatepark.
I hope to Christ my area doesn't regulate these and especially transport deserts, for better or worse the chinese hub kits that you can find are a lifeline for people who can't drive for a variety of reasons to go on city streets and be safer rather than having traffic blow by you on a Class 3 bike.
This is a ok step in a better direction
But coal is used for the making of ebikes,solar, and everything in between
Which is not sustainable
These are really electric scooters that pretend to be bikes. There are "actual" e-bikes which are reversed in their usage: Pedaling is the main way to go with them, and the electric motor assists your pedaling, rather than what you are incentivized to do here, primarily using the motor and assisting with pedals.
Those "actual" e-bikes do not go at all on their own. You *must* pedal to get anywhere, though the pedaling might end up being a lot easier than it would be with a regular bike, making up hills less of a challenge overall.
pedestrian path way no separate bike lane and on the side there's homeless tent with tons of trash... typical American city 😂
I think as long as we're relying on private companies to provide them, they're going to get less sustainable and used in place of bicycles/public transport.
The cycling industry already has issues with planned obsolescence, using (slightly lighter) aluminium over (less polluting) steel, constantly creating new useless additional parts/gadgets, brands making their parts incompatible with each other, and preventing customisation of your bike more generally from the start (without having to buy new parts and discard the old ones).
The companies are always going to have an incentive to take advantage of legal loopholes too and by the time local authorities have got round to regulating something like speed limits/age requirements/where you can cycle, they'll have found a new loophole. Or they can just lobby against regulations like in London where e-scooters are only legal to ride if they're owned by one of the rental companies (or if you're on private land).
If your son is that happy being mobile and fast, please, just get him a road bike!
I'm always shocked when young people use electric assisted means of transportation.
E-Bikes is cheating and should not be compared to "Cycling" but yeah I can see it's advantages.
Man, that guy didn't know anything about battery technology. It's progressing so rapidly, 90% of the battery can be recycled, they don't use rare earth minerals, mining is perfectly acceptable and inevitable, so why be against batteries?
15 minutes of background music 🎶 noise - no, thanks.
Electric bikes are mopeds or motorbikes. The smartphone is a computer with a superhighspeed wireless voicedata modem built in.
They could be very useful assistive farm implements. Consider that before you beat on them.
THERE has never been, isn't currently, and never will be (rare earth metals) in batteries. This is a complete fallacy and underliines a fundamental lack of understanding, often perpetuated by the oil industry. There are however, (some) rare earth metals - which aren't truly rare at all - in the electric motors. Tesla, wbo is probably the 2nd biggest EV manufacturer in the world after BYD, are in the process of phasing out the so-called rare earth metals.
There's quite a bit of battery recycling being done at the moment, but it's mostly in the NON-EV sphere as EV batteries are lasting far longer than anyone, including the manufacturers themselves, ever expected. Those that are recycled mainly come from rejects during the manufacturing process or that of vehicles that have been written off following a crash by the owner's insurance company. Redwood Materials are the prime battery recycling company in the USA but they struggle to get enough for recycling. Despite this the company continues to grow apace and the black mass nearing the end of the recycling process is then separated out into the constituent minerals and metals ready to be reused in new EV batteries.
Battery technology is continuing to leap ahead in leaps and bounds, primarily in China with BYD & CATL and Tesla in the USA, but there's Billions with a B of dollars of new investment going into the R&D of new battery technology worldwide, therefore I fail to see how this farmer's perspective belongs in this video. John Goodenough, widely lauded as the main battery scientist responsible for the beginning of the modern lithium battery, was still working full-time in the USA until he died just last week, just two months short of his 101st birthday, on battery chemistry and associated technology.
I'm quite disappointed that there's so many factual errors contained herein and, as such, Andrew, the video is far from your usual high standard. I wish to be perfectly clear here. I've watched (&) recommended your videos for YEARS Andrew, and will continue to do so as they generally are of great value.
Rid the bike on a railway track wtf
Children should be pedaling. Without pedaling, you are one step closer to obesity.
when electric bikes dont cost more than a car i might be interested.
Where do you live where electric bikes are more expensive than a car?
@@kev2034 kentucky, most electric bikes are around 500 dollars and i could find a junker of a car and get it running for that.
congrats on becoming a marketer.
money rules the earth! woohoo!
“Rare earth metals” aren’t rare
Why the fluff does Rio think it's his business to ride on the train tracks??? Trains can be far quicker and more silent than one can imagine. Before you even realise that a train is almost on top of you, it's simply too late. Endangering your own life is one thing, but the resulting impacts on the poor train drivers and loved ones is virtually beyond comprehension.
Andrew, stop your son from being a complete selfish idiot!
Was looking for this comment before I made a similar one. ANY TIME is train time, even if you think the tracks are disused - the ones you showed in the video looked shiny on top, a clear sign they're being used. Stay off the tracks. Simply put, it's trespassing, it's dangerous, and it could kill you.
@ocalicreek About 18-24 months ago, there was a tragic work accident on the tracks here in Sth Wales. Two rail maintenance workers were killed as Network Rail was too tight to employ spotters, and because the guys were wearing hearing safety earmuffs as per health and safety guidelines, they didn't hear the train coming through. Major ding done about the whole incident as you can imagine. Many places in the UK have the railway tracks securely fenced off to stop idiots from illegally accessing the tracks.
Jesus is Alive in love us all you heard a loud voice that you couldn't figure why you look up to heaven
The rules for e-bikes in Oregon are not as grey as stated. There is a published rubric from the ODOT and the DMV - www.oregon.gov/odot/forms/dmv/6619.pdf. That aside, I’m all for modes of transportation that get people out of personal vehicles. We just need to adopt some more specific regulations like those found throughout Europe.