Yeah that's what all those "psychos are just normal people" folks don't understand. Just because you're not a serial killer doesn't mean you're not dangerous. These people will engage in deplorable practices, manipulation, psychological abuse and will ruin people's lives for the hell of it.
And that's one of a huge reasons why our society is more screwed up than it could have been. I mean, I've heard a lot of them are at the very top positions
@@Polina-ji4fe most of them for sure. And by the way once I met a psychopath matching the stereotypes and it took years before I recovered from the experience of getting to know him. He was manipulative, tying to use my weaknesses against me for fun and acting like a monster wrapped in human skin. To me he was not even human. His sight was really unsettling and to this day he is still free to harm people and do his psychopath things. Anyway, ther are more degrees of psychopathy, some are bordering normality but that person to me didn't even deserve to live.
@@Polina-ji4fe if you don't notice that's because probably they are normal enough that they hide it.. Some of them have nothing good in them and are enjoyi harming other people.
Psychopath says "I don't consider myself dangerous" and then goes on to describe a gray rage where they are going to correct someone who feels too safe.
What she is feeling is rage,emotion to psychopath is foreign so when she talks about "not making a decision yourself" it is literaly that, Rage embodies her and she isn't her,now body is controled by emotion rather than logical thinking which is strange to them and if it's strong enough then it will take over.. And i think most of the time that "lack of authority" is at fault for making them burst out to violence,because mistakes of other people do not bother them,it's insignificant to them..But thinking you can control them and their actions is infuriating to them because they already do not care about social norms so hyarchy dosen't apply to them...
she also said she feels like she has no control over herself for up to an hour at a time and during that period she just wants to harm someone else hahahah
Her lack of scale in a normal person's response to anger, etc., is one of the biggest obstacles my brother (a psychopath) has. The difference is violence isn't his first choice because he just doesn't care, though he has no issue engaging in it. He just goes way overboard when he does.
> Her lack of scale in a normal person's response to anger, etc., is one of the biggest obstacles my brother (a psychopath) has. What do you mean by "lack of scale" relating to emotion? For example "he took my toy" so a typical child might yell both broth might hit or end the friendship?
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Not necessarily. grey rage+severe trauma and humiliation+effects of poverty+miseducation= a real issue. Erase the last three (which would have been THE JOB for the psych-trias to accomplish in the past 150 years or so) and you have fairly controllable issues. Also unlikely you'd have so many serial killers run around.
In this context she's almost just talking about it in terms of making people uncomfortable based on their expectations, the way autistic people talk or whatever
What? That's exactly what she is saying directly....she is telling everyone she is, she is explaining it in depht. That is the epitome of "tell me you are X".....Tell me you are an idiot without telling me you are an idiot....
"I don't think I'm dangerous" but also... "I will got to the enth degree to make sure you realise you have no authority and you're not safe"..... Ok........
You didn't listen correctly: she said, if she notices someone imposing their ego over her she gets this grey rage to show them that's not something she tolerates.
Because, to them, it is. Psycho/socipaths are not all prone to violence. Cruelty, maybe, but not violence. The top brass at Enron were sociopaths. They dealt a huge blow to the US economy...because they wanted money and believed they'd get away with it. People killed themselves because they lost all of the value of their Enron stock. The interviewee prefers "sociopath" because it doesn't have the violent connotations that "psychopath" does. It's important to see the distinction.
The way she tells stories is a perfect demonstration of her lacking empathy. She is dissociated from the emotional experience that her actions inspire in other people, and doesn't consider those people in her decision-making - she is wholly self-interested, which is why it can be great (for a time) to emotionally enmesh with someone like this. They can 'set us free' from all worry until we see the reality of who they are. Humans are insanely complicated.
Well said. I would make one minor qualification to what you said though. I wouldn't recommend becoming emotionally enmeshed with someone like this, even for a little bit. There is something compelling and alluring about a person who glides though life with the confidence and amorality of a great white shark. You might even envy someone like that. But psychopaths have the same sense of reciprocity in relationships as sharks do.
Humans are NOT complicated. This is why we understand human beings. The universe appears to be unknowing and a mystery. The ocean depths are still left unexplored, but humans??? No, my lady, they are absolutely not complicated. The average human is innately driven by selfish desires. It starts from birth, and they learn to adjust these impulses through interaction with their community. Empathy can be taught and developed, and it is utterly, and absolutely necessary. A sociopath/psychopath, however, is the embodiment of evil and when you have truly met one, there is no question. There is no complication or rationalizing it more than it really is. (As a psychoanalyst, seek the renowned M. Scott Peck as a good jumping point for more clarity. He has had direct confrontations and interactions with them).
Can understand. Of course a psychopath can only conjure an illusion of "freedom." They're not actually "gods" walking the earth as their minds stuck in psychopath mode tricks itself in a critical malfunction. That malfunction is what makes them dangerous and leads to terrible consequences, as it's true many people do wind up under the psychopath's spell (manipulation they're all about) and wind up following psychopaths over the cliff. It's curious "normals" keep doing this over and over and why the "normals" are always so easily and willingly seduced by psychopaths as if the "normals" desperately need the psychopaths to exist
All the false allegations from the me to movement and you don't think a 5 foot 4 woman are dangerous? Johnny Depp had video and audio recordings of being abused and it took years to clear his name after being fired by Disney and other companies.....
this is total conjecture but it feels like the reason her smile is so unsettling is because she's smiling for herself and only herself. she isn't smiling to connect, but more than anything she isn't smiling to communicate. it's just muscles moving.
Okay, but if I as a neurotypical smiled at my screen because I came across a witty pun or thought about something that brings me joy, would that be the same thing? Because then I’m not really communicating with anyone either, right? And what about smiling at an article that leaves you confused? You’re not really smiling at the author of the article but also at and for yourself, right? I dunno, just thoughts.
@@curuvari2247 Right, I feel like if she was talking about some gore movie in this way and we didn't know she was a psychopath beforehand, no one would notice her supposedly 'psychopathic' smile or pull apart any sort of gestures she is doing. I think it's just people's cognitive bias kicking in for the most part.
@curuvari2247 They never mentioned smiling at an article. You're projecting your experience on the video and the OP of this comment when your comment actually has nothing to do with what they are talking about on the video.
@@elizabethsedai854 I meant that if I read an article, I’d also be smiling to and for myself, just like OP said the woman were only smiling to and for herself. And I was wondering if that would make me look equally unsettling to an observer then. Does that make sense? Otherwise, could you please elaborate on your comment as to how I am projecting? /gen
Kinda scary how even rage for a psycopath sounds more methodical than rage for a typical person. The way she emphasizes that when grey-raging she thinks something needs "correcting", whereas a typical person might think something needs to be destroyed or won't even think at all.
And they are very efficient in such harm outrage situations, for example I got high pressure, slight tremor in body, red face, etc all in one, mom stay still, slight smile, like boss in vacation relaxed area talking to slave, calm voice "why so nervous reaction, you can get insult, big deal that i thow out that device, your mom was wrong (she never ever directly apologize btw, always - your parents such a shame - or -your mom was wrong), I cannot know all that your electronic things purpose". I think she have some joy to turn ppl in such mode, like well done complex job. Some scene preparations, proper phrases, precision timings.
Reminds me of the brilliant cinematic dialog in the all-red restroom in "The Shining", when Delbert Grady finally admits to Mr Torrence to have recognized the need to "correct" his wife and daughters, in a very violent manner, indeed.
Exactly. The "grey rage" seems more like could be fake "rage" or something other than "rage," almost like if you were, in the psychopath's shoes, a "god" walking the earth, and a mere mortal tried to "control" you allegedly "without authority," which is in reality most likely just some basic thing in society like don't light fireworks around babies, and your "powers" or "destiny" automatically completely obliterate annihilate the mere "mortal" who dared cross you, to "correct them" for "feeling safe" (odd phrasing since we're told psychopaths don't think about other people or their emotions). Something strikes me the "grey rage" thing might not just be about what she claims it's about, but probably the psychopath might actually derive great pleasure from the methodical "correcting" part of the annihilation of someone supposedly "trying to control them," when really it's the other way around...
Wow such great insight, you all have as much understanding of her as she does of you…… you dont have shared experiances. Also the other name for grey rage might be described as unsignation to us
It's very apparent she is honestly expressing her misunderstanding of how many humans think and feel. She does not understand empathy because one reason to not do something violent or hurtful that many people factor in is to not want someone else to feel the negative consequences that would come from a certain behavior or action. Not wanting another to experience that pain is a huge reason to not do something negative, regardless of being caught or worrying about judgements of others.
Imagine taking away the fear of judgment or consequences and keeping the emotions. Every human has the capacity to do harm, and many would if they could get away with it. I think it has little to do with empathy and more to do with consequences.
This. I desperately don't want others to feel bad on my account. It hurts in my heart when I knowingly or unknowingly cause others to suffer. So, I'm always bewildered when others are so forthright in harming others for self gain...
Yea you definitely see how her manipulation comes out here she is manipulating her audience . Psychopaths have inappropriate rage so to say they aren’t violent is not true . Even ones that don’t commit physical violence often do acts that harm other cause they have no empathy everyone around them is literally a stepping stool
In social science research, the rates of psychopathy among CEOs and corporate upper management is about the same as the rates of psychopathy among prisoners. This tells one a lot about our society of corporate capitalism built on extremes of high inequality, dominance hierarchies, social Darwinism, and hyper-individualism. One wonders what an actual functioning free market would look like that wasn't owned, controlled, and ruled by psychopaths, other dark personalities (narcissists, Machiavellians, sadists), and social dominators.
They seem to have an element of controlling other people - especially those who are at a higher level. Psychosis is also more common in men and these professions are male dominated at least at higher level. I found the inclusion of clergy rather disturbing! Least likely professions for psychopaths: 1. Care aide 2. Nurse 3. Therapist 4. Craftsperson 5. Beautician/Stylist 6. Charity worker 7. Teacher 8. Creative artist 9. Doctor 10. Accountant… Quite a few female dominated jobs @Trainrhys
One of THE most psychotic statements/ideas I have ever heard, “I am going to correct someone about their false sense of safety”. Wow! …and said with a smile and a chuckle.
You mean psychopathic, not psychotic. What do you think psychotic actually means? You keep using that word, I do not think it means what you think it means... It doesn't mean violent, or aggressive. Or anything like that. A lot of people confuse it with the term "psychopathic" which has absolutely nothing to do with it, it's not even remotely the same thing. Remember, mentally ill people, including people going through an episode of psychosis, commit _FEWER_ crimes on average per person than mentally healthy people do, including violent crimes. Mentally ill people, including those with psychosis, are actually way more likely to be _VICTIMS_ of crime than mentally healthy people are. I can post sources for this if you want. As someone with schizophrenia it just really bothers me when people completely misuse the word "psychosis" because it just adds to the awful stigma that people like me already have to face, when people think we're violent or killers even though we're a lot more likely to be victims of those kinds of crimes than mentally healthy people are, and we commit fewer crimes per person than mentally healthy people do. Statistics and facts never seem to matter to people, they just hear "psychotic" or "schizophrenic" and think that we're dangerous when we're not. The only danger we pose is to ourselves, from self harm and suicide. When I have an episode of psychosis, my paranoia just goes into overdrive. To try and sum it up, I always think I'm in a Truman show mine of situation, where everyone is actor, I think everyone is spying on me, watching absolutely everything I do, everything I do on my computer and phone and tablet is monitored, there are secret hidden cameras in my apartment that I spend hours trying to find, and so on. That's what being psychotic actually is. It's just when I'm very ill, and I become suicidal because I think I'm constantly being watched and monitored and everyone I know is secretly an actor and so I can't trust them, even my family. I think any food they make for me is poisoned. It's so stressful living like that that dying feels like the only escape. When you're psychotic, you feel like you're completely sane, and it's everyone and everything around you that's gone crazy, the world itself has gone insane and you're the one sane person left. You feel completely alone. Then I report this to my psychiatrists and I get a higher dose of the anti-psychotics meds, or different anti psychotics meds, and within a few weeks I feel normal again and I can't believe the crazy shit that I was convinced was true only a few weeks before. I'm not sure exactly what you think "psychotic" means. But please stop adding to the stigma mentally ill people have to face, that makes our lives so hard, makes it incredibly difficult to find employment, to find a place to live that'll accept you there because they're one of the only ones who don't think you're dangerous. There's a reason why so so so many people with schizophrenia end up homeless. We aren't a danger to you. We are just normal people. The percentage of people with schizophrenia is the same as the percentage of people who are gay. So think how many gay people you know, and realise that you very likely know around the same number of people who have schizophrenia. And you have no idea, unless they tell you. Because it's very very easy to hide, and we are just normal people just like you. We aren't dangerous or violent. We are your friends, your co-workers, your family members. Don't believe what Hollywood movies show, Hollywood movies never depict mental illness accurately. We aren't serial killers. We're people who are whacky and weird and go around on street corners shouting about ridiculous things. We are so so much more likely to be victims of crime, including violent crime, than you mentally healthy people are. And so adding to the stigma we have to face and claiming we're dangerous, is victim blaming. Sorry for the long post but this obviously is incredibly important to me. And to a lot of people. There are millions and millions and millions of us and you encounter someone with schizophrenia every single day. And you don't even know. Because we're just normal people, we just have a mental disability.
You mean psychopathic, not psychotic. What do you think psychotic actually means? You keep using that word, I do not think it means what you think it means... It doesn't mean violent, or aggressive. Or anything like that. A lot of people confuse it with the term "psychopathic" which has absolutely nothing to do with it, it's not even remotely the same thing. Remember, mentally ill people, including people going through an episode of psychosis, commit ***fewer*** crimes on average per person than mentally healthy people do, including violent crimes. Mentally ill people, including those with psychosis, are actually way more likely to be ***victims*** of crime than mentally healthy people are. I can post sources for this if you want. As someone with schizophrenia it just really bothers me when people completely misuse the word "psychosis" because it just adds to the awful stigma that people like me already have to face, when people think we're violent or killers even though we're a lot more likely to be victims of those kinds of crimes than mentally healthy people are, and we commit fewer crimes per person than mentally healthy people do. Statistics and facts never seem to matter to people, they just hear "psychotic" or "schizophrenic" and think that we're dangerous when we're not. The only danger we pose is to ourselves, from self harm and suicide. When I have an episode of psychosis, my paranoia just goes into overdrive. To try and sum it up, I always think I'm in a Truman show mine of situation, where everyone is actor, I think everyone is spying on me, watching absolutely everything I do, everything I do on my computer and phone and tablet is monitored, there are secret hidden cameras in my apartment that I spend hours trying to find, and so on. That's what being psychotic actually is. It's just when I'm very ill, and I become suicidal because I think I'm constantly being watched and monitored and everyone I know is secretly an actor and so I can't trust them, even my family. I think any food they make for me is poisoned. It's so stressful living like that that dying feels like the only escape. When you're psychotic, you feel like you're completely sane, and it's everyone and everything around you that's gone crazy, the world itself has gone insane and you're the one sane person left. You feel completely alone. Then I report this to my psychiatrists and I get a higher dose of the anti-psychotics meds, or different anti psychotics meds, and within a few weeks I feel normal again and I can't believe the crazy shit that I was convinced was true only a few weeks before. I'm not sure exactly what you think "psychotic" means. But please stop adding to the stigma mentally ill people have to face, that makes our lives so hard, makes it incredibly difficult to find employment, to find a place to live that'll accept you there because they're one of the only ones who don't think you're dangerous. There's a reason why so so so many people with schizophrenia end up homeless. We aren't a danger to you. We are just normal people. The percentage of people with schizophrenia is the same as the percentage of people who are gay. So think how many gay people you know, and realise that you very likely know around the same number of people who have schizophrenia. And you have no idea, unless they tell you. Because it's very very easy to hide, and we are just normal people just like you. We aren't dangerous or violent. We are your friends, your co-workers, your family members. Don't believe what Hollywood movies show, Hollywood movies never depict mental illness accurately. We aren't serial killers. We're people who are whacky and weird and go around on street corners shouting about ridiculous things. We are so so much more likely to be victims of crime, including violent crime, than you mentally healthy people are. And so adding to the stigma we have to face and claiming we're dangerous, is victim blaming. Sorry for the long post but this obviously is incredibly important to me. And to a lot of people. There are millions and millions and millions of us and you encounter someone with schizophrenia every single day. And you don't even know. Because we're just normal people, we just have a mental disability.
@duffman18 I have dealt with a sociopath in my life for 20 years. I am well aware of the differences between the types of psychopathy. I wasn't referring to violent tendencies. I see the inability to empathize or sympathize with other people's feelings. Furthermore, I think the definition of "dangerous" should be clarified as well. Yes... people who have psychotic personalities can pose a physical danger to others. They can and do more often present other dangers such as emotional, financial, and even spiritual dangers to those who get close to them or even to those in whom they know only for a short time. Psychotic people are dangerous until they have hurt people so much that they finally hurt themselves enough to understand that they need to change something. They don't change because they feel bad about hurting others, however. They only change because they finally HAD to change so they could get themselves out of trouble. You don't get them to finally start to see the world the way an average person does. They won't ever do that. If you are psychotic, in my experience, you are dangerous in one way or another. Not necessarily physically but willing to hurt me or others for your own purposes unless you have finally hurt yourself so bad that you now care to change. I speak from experience. I don't care what Hollywood does. Good luck to you. I hope you can sort things out for the better. 🙏
Did she say gray rage? Her explaining how sometimes she feels the impulse to threaten or hurt someone just because they have a false sense of their own personal safety sent chills down my spine. Unfortunately, it’s quite common for a person to grow cold, angry, and violent with enough pressure. However, being able to smile and calmly explain your impulsive rage which leads to violent emotions rather than rationalizing the action away or defending it, was scary.
Lol honestly it made a lot of sense to me because I grew up around men who were excessively violent (not to me but in their lives) and that is a clinical way of describing their behavior and feelings in a lot of interaction, it’s sort of dissecting the emotions behind the fraze “who the fuck do you think your talking to?” Or “remember who you talking to?” What’s funny about psychopaths is they’re born with personality traits other people have to pushed or conditioned to sometimes over the course of a lifetime.
@@Danheron2 It's a neurodevelopmental disorder, that results from a complex interaction between genes and environment, so most if not all of them, are the result of their life experience+their genes.
No, you didn't understand what she said. She said that gray rage is triggered when someone has a false sense of authority AND a false sense of their own personal safety. It sounds this rage is a response to being challenged. She is not just going up to people and threatening them because they look weak.
Maybe you have a problem with listening to people. That's really not a good trait and it can get you into trouble. That is not what she said. What she said is people who have a false sense of their authority and personal safety and they try to assert authority over you. That would piss off every normal person I know.
I spent time with a psychopath about a year ago and it went very badly. I really value that this channel is helping the world understand this condition better. I still have not figured out how to reconcile the bottomless moral repulsion as well as fear one experiences from a psychopath, with the realization that they are born this way and in a way it’s not their fault. From that perspective hating them seems irrational; but it’s not clear what else is to be done. Avoid them? Friendship, trust, understanding with them is impossible. They only live to deceive. They don’t have the normal emotions or reward mechanisms other people have. They are never actually invested in the relationship as a friendship, they’re just calculating a way to use you. Thus, it is almost antithetical to try to empathize with a psychopath; empathy implies a degree of acknowledgment of someone’s inner humanity; it implies you recognize the fundamental good in someone. But there is none in psychopaths. That was a hard lesson for me to learn.
They aren't born that way. They are created through neglect and abuse as babies and toddlers. But they are abused at such a young and critical development stage that they don't remember the abuse, even though that is what shaped their brain to be as it is.
I disagree, at least in regards to the idea that empathy implies an acknowledgement of someone's inner humanity and goodness. For example, it's quite possible to empathize with animals, even ones that are by nature self-centered. If someone's pet fish gets injured, I can empathize with it and feel sorry that it is experiencing pain, because I know what pain feels like, and I don't want other beings to experience pain. I realize that feeling that someone is a bad person can make it extremely difficult to feel empathy for them, because no one wants to empathize with someone they dislike or even hate. But if you try to, it is actually perfectly possible to empathize with someone you dislike. Because this woman is articulate in explaining her experiences, I actually found it easy to empathize with her. Ironically, the only people for whom empathy actually is sometimes literally impossible is psychopaths.
Dude just avoid psychopaths. If u can somehow recognize one. Avoid them at all costs and do ur best to not let them in your life. Set boundaries and run
@@tw8464How do you experience rage? I feel like confident, "healthy" people experience what she described. I think it speaks of an inner sense of control, to feel simply "destiny" to effect change. It is direct, assertive and non-conflicted.
@@mymaster1402 Confident healthy people don't need to experience rage. Emotionally mature people know that they are not the ones that need to put people in their place. This woman just described a very out-of-body experience in going to extreme lengths, probably more than necessary, to let this person know where they stand in the hierarchy. That's not normal in the slightest.
@@mcmuinorac5848 You don't always get to choose what you feel and when. You can choose how you react to those feelings. If your body is telling you to put an end to something and you keep avoiding dealing with the problem, you'll only be helpless.
If a psychopath tells me it’s daytime I’d go out to make sure. To these people, the rest of us are just a hapless bunch of ‘Honest Johns”, if you know what I mean. They don’t really give a shit about much, certainly not lying. And their attitude is ; if you fall for it you deserve it. Terrifying people, truly.
she smiles to soften her appearance. she’s manipulating us while we watch with that choreographed smile and constant references to being only 5’4”/non-threatening. though, i appreciate that she was willing to open up and give the world some insight.
I'm so glad you can notice people with aspd or psychopathy like us have to consciously make our facial expressions because they don't come naturally. If we are putting in the effort to smile there is a goal, doesn't mean it's a bad one but it's effort. You just gotta be smart
I actually went to middle school and HighSchool with this person. It was obvious that there was something …. different …. about her. I have sometimes wondered over the years what *exactly* her condition was …. now I know. I was not close to her. I cannot say I knew her well. We played on the same softball team a few times over the years. I remember her being mostly quiet. The only reason I recognized her is her jaw and her smile. The video seemed to randomly appear in my YT feed, and I saw her face, and was like “Is that …J*%?” This is the most chatty I have ever seen her. In my memory, she was very quiet.
According to her, she is not. She had a friend who told her she should be tested for an antisocial personality disorder. She couldn't hold down a job or have relationships with people for longer than 3 years. The tests identified her as having psychopathy which led her to getting a therapist. That work helped her moderate her interactions with people and it improved her relationship with her family probably because it gave them the information they needed to understand that she has a mental health issue.
She should be allowed to do what she needs to do on the day to day but have someone to council her everyfew days forever. However that someone has to change ofc otherwise they might go crazy themselves😅 Dealing with people with this personality is highly intensive majority of the time. Got someone in my family with a similar set of characteristics and also talks the same as this lady does about people, animals, things, whatever as if there is no life involved in the question. Just is what it is, we got a lot of people that have serious deeper problems it not being their choice as well
@@nashoba8712as a lawyer? No, being a lawyer requires and understanding of law, but also people and emotions. She also states she struggles to hold down a job so the productivity isn’t there.
For people who find it interesting or telling that she chose law as her profession: research shows that sociopaths and psychopaths gravitate to careers in 1. the police 2. medicine 3. law in that order.
medicine is kind of a scary one, but i guess it makes sense because if someone gets too emotional over people being hurt, they wouldn't last long in healthcare where they have to endure people dying and being hurt all of the time. but it can also explain some narcissistic doctors who aren't willing to actually listen to their patients
She's turning to the bookcase to hide a blemish on her right cheek , which could be a scar . Perhaps receiving violence is a greater than average risk for psychopaths ?
I think what she is trying to explain is that she might be damaging, but not necessarily with the intention to harm or will enjoy inflicting harm to others. As a former victim of abuse by different types of anti socials, you can clearly see that many will harm others because they think the other deserves it... it's their fault. But that is totally different than the aspect of sadism. Harming for the sake of harming, to relief themselves of boredom and taking deep joy, self validation by the harm they inflict and the physical/mental signs of inflicted harm, the reactions to the wounds inflicted. I suspect that luckily, only few anti socials are also sadist. Maybe there's a 'sadism spectrum'.
Sadism and psychopathy, along with narcissism and Machiavellianism, are all dark personality traits. When all four are included it's called the Dark Tetrad, but others prefer to limit it to the Dark Triad. The argument is sadism doesn't need to be included because it's a common feature of the other three. I don't know if all psychopaths would have a greater capacity for sadism. It is more common among them, but often it's just a potential, not necessarily actual behavior. The psychopath in this video likely doesn't at present exhibit sadism, if it might be easier for something to trigger it in her under the right conditions.
@@MarmaladeINFP lol, i am one of those sticking by the dark triad theory so to speak.. I wouldn't say that sadism is by definition a part of hybrid narcissism/psychopathy. I've known several people diagnosed as psychopath, or sociopath or narcissistic psychopath, borderline, narcissist. And a few who i don't know of but very strongly leaned towards such a disorder and of all those individuals (about 15 in total) was only one who would harm for the sake of joy/ self validation/ control. A few of the others could harm in a seemingly sadistic way but that's just how it felt. In retro spect i can see they didn't cause harm for the sake of joy or so. For example they might protect a warped view on an issue and gaslight you into thinking you are wrong because you are too sensitive about the issue.... And even others of that group were more or less parasitic/manipulative in their approach not as much 'abusive'. Of course i am no doctor, this is how i experienced these people over very long times.
@@alainvosselman9960 The intention or lack of intention in these types of people is completely irrelevant. The lack of subjectivity and any trace of interiority, as in the case of this woman, means that it does not even make sense to treat them as moral agents. They are simply broken objects that don't work as they should.
@@lucasrinaldi9909 It is relevent when you are trying to understand the clustery B type disorders. I learned about a classification system and in order to categorize one must differentiate between the various shapes and forms they come. I have experienced several people with a cluster b disorder and some who displayed many traits but i can't be sure. I learned this to better protect myself and it's becoming useful when looking at events like politics or so. Or people's behavior in general.
What strikes me most about her is the complete lack of self-awareness. She keeps saying, "I don't do X" before describing doing exactly X. You have to remind yourself before taking this person at face value that she is a psychopath, and it seems like she's not even aware that she's being deceptive.
The thing about psychopaths part of the criteria is inappropriate anger . They are dangerous because they feel no guilt or shame or remorse. So literally they don’t feel bad about anything they do so it is more likely they will make choices that are dangerous for themselves and people around them. Even ones that don’t engage in physical violence do things that are harmful to others. Look at big CEO’s they will gut a company do mass layoffs and not feel a thing.
CEOs wouldn't be a problem if it wasn't for Capitalism. Capitalisms whole end is profit. Blaming it all on psychopaths is just scapegoating. There are plenty of non-psychopathic CEOs who have gutted companies and just moved on with their lives. The difference is that non-psychopaths have a whole range of cognitive biases that help them rationalise what they do. Psychopaths seem to have less illusions about themselves.
No, Capitalisms whole 'thing' is the ability to have freely trade, which is just an analogy for freedom. Which is why it's synonymous with the the best societies that have ever existed (The West), and attempts to 'correct' it have resulted in some of the worst countries that have ever existed (North Korea, Soviet Union, Cambodia, Maoist China). Psychopaths will do well in any human hierarchy, simply because they have less factors to worry/think about. @@LambentIchor
@@Alexandros11 That's just the propaganda for capitalism. Are you trying to tell me the US is really free?! The reality of capitalism isn't just that capitalists accumulate 'stuff' as in assets. They capture power by using their wealth to have politicians make laws that favour them. This undermines democracy. There never has been 'free trade'. And this is used by capitalists as an excuse for when capitalism collapses. They say, 'If the markets were really free then this wouldn't happen. Austerity is how governments take money from the ordinary worker and use it to bail-out big business. The reality is socialism for the rich. Talking about 'freedom', what is this freedom? You think having a broad range of stuff to consume is freedom? You have to be an American.
@@LambentIchor If we were in a Socialist system the all the psychopaths would just become bureaucrats or commissars. If someone with power in a Socialist system wants to destroy your particular way of life you still don't have any recourse.
A big part of understanding psychopaths is understanding that you can’t appeal to their emotions. They do not understand emotions on the same level that most people do. Appeal to their logic, be genuine and don’t show fear. If you do; be honest. Not understanding something is what bothers a psychopath more than anything else. Logic over emotion
This is not unique to sociopaths but also to some neurodivergent people. For example, I am an empath but appealing to emotions is not a winning strategy with me, I can't act illogically just for the sake of emotions.
Its not terrifying. Thats when the big old bear in the Forrest got hunted down. Saving the tribe. The tribe leader couldnt assert authority over that simple animal nor over the spear holder. Making the tribe unsafe. Making the tribe unsafe should make you furious.
That concept of making people think they have a false authority over you is a concept thats honestly amazing how well she explained, and the way she landed the idea. I had a friend back in High School that I remember always talked me about how he managed precisely to blackmail his dad, having him warned because he found out some weed from my friend on his school bag; like I remember how he told me everything was pretty much planned and already had backup plans if that didnt work out, like I remember how he even explained me how that would ruin his relationship with his dad forever because of breaking into the concept of distort who has authority over who. He was such an inteligent dude, but also a very very weird guy, always was relaxed, never mad, he was always focused. I wonder what hes doing now lol
I think the person’s “false sense of authority and safety” is referring to entitled complacency. Grey rage wouldn’t be sparked because someone simply feels “too safe.”
It would be sparked by the psychopath and his malfunctioning brain not actually being in reality. A psychopath might be lighting fireworks right beside his neighbor's house where the infant is sleeping that could catch it on fire. When the mom comes out to tell him to stop, the "grey rage" is triggered because in his malfunctioning mind, she's trying to "control" him and could never possibly ever have any bit of "authority" over him in any way as the mother is not a fellow human his malfunctioning brain can recognize any feelings within her but she is merely an object in the way of the psychopath as a "god" walking the earth goal of pleasure enjoying the fireworks. "Therefore" "logically" in the psychopath's mind that is not actually connected to reality, she must be grey raged on for the "crime" of "feeling safe" to say anything to him do anything to protect her child or interfere wirh the psychopath's goals in any way.
I think data showed that the most anti social boys, around 2 years old, showed primarily physical violence (kicking, biting, punching), and most of those things gets weeded out, because it's so on-the-nose. Girls tend to show reputation destroying behavior. Interestingly, when asked if she's dangerous, she talk about violence and not manipulation of someone else's reputation, which she earlier admitted was her modus operandi to the point she didn't know how to behave without doing it. For example, an anti social girl, my gf's niece is a sociopath, and she told everyone that her uncle (my gf's brother) beat her. The guy was wrecked. It got serious and he was facing serious consequences. It turned out she was lying. She was 13-14. It's extremely dangerous to be around. It's like my gf's brother is unarmed, and she's a snake he can't see. It's easily overlooked and subtle if you're not careful.
This is actually really interesting. I dared to consider, once, whether the assumption that psychopaths are necessarily evil might be false. I very quickly hypothesized that it's very likely a false assumption. Emotion-based, sympathy-based morality is actually not morality's highest form. I'm not a Kantian, but take Kant, for example. He held that the choice to conform our actions to what the law demands, because it's the law, is what defines an act as morally good--not how we feel about it or whether we want to do it or not do it. A psychopath is perfectly capable of living that way, and just choosing to do the right thing, not because he cares about how other people feel or whether they suffer harm, but because he recognizes the act as, in principle, the good to be done. Such a person would refrain from seeking his own advantage by victimizing others, not because it wouldn't FEEL right to do it, but because it wouldn't BE right to do it, and that would be enough to discipline the psychopath. I articulated this hypothesis several years ago to a Neuropsychologist, then on the faculty at Vanderbilt University, and he said that he'd never thought about the question that way before, but that, now that I presented the idea, he could think of several people whose moral profile I'd just described perfectly.
"I can be dangerous for a certain kind of person...through no fault of my own.". As a person that was friends with a psychopath, hearing this made me cringe in terror...It's NEVER their fault.
I’ve worked with a psychopath. He had no problem lying about anything. He would exaggerate something you did or said to make it seem malicious. Pretty sure he broke the window of my car.
Most of the people interviewed by the "experts" on psychopathy were in prison so certain attributes are overemphasized in the literature. I've never harmed anyone and I certainly don't consider myself dangerous. I explain it like this, psychopaths are outcome-oriented. What would harming someone achieve? I'm not a sadist. And, I really don't want to go to jail. Likewise, why would I steal? There are less risky ways to get money (like working at a job that I'm good at, I enjoy, that pays well, and that isn't hard). Most psychopaths glide through life following the past of least resistance. The ones who are in jail usually have other disorders, have a different cost-benefit calculation, or less impulse control. The important thing is that we generally don't feel guilt about the things we do, which makes OUR calculation different from the calculation of a normal person.
The thing is, normal people don’t just obey the law because of the legal consequences. We consider the victim on the other side of these crimes, regardless of the legal consequences. It’s why laws are created. Ideally, they exist to protect people and their humanity first and foremost. Because there are people (like psycopaths) who don’t consider how their choices can negatively impact and harm other people. What would harming another person acheive? It would harm someone, that’s why you don’t do it. Not because you’ll get thrown in jail and not because it won’t acheive anything for you.
@@kttv9442I doubt he can understand the reality of what you're saying. When our brains are not fully functional or malfunctioning, we are that much more disconnected from reality. Us "normal" brains have a hard enough time with reality. I'm sure purely cognitively he can understand your words, but if his brain has malfunctioned such that there is no genuine feeling (or "guilt" as he says, and I find it disconcerting so many psychopaths so often use that particular word, "guilt," as a substitute for what is actually supposed to be the existence of genuine feelings function in the human brain) then he will have no way to truly understand the serious knowledge of reality you're trying to convey.
The researchers are saying psychopathy level is a spectrum. But it seems on the far end toward clinical psychopathy there's a malfunction, as in no off switch. "Normals" or those not so far on that far end of the spectrum actually can and often do make the psychopath calculation and also from time to time engage in psychopath behaviors too (which might help explain why "normals" in groups can behave even more psychopath than individual psychopaths acting alone and why "normals" constantly follow psychopaths aa if they're allowing the psychopath to do their manipulating for them and constantly choose psychopaths to "lead" them) and turn it on or off based on the circumstances, but the clinical psychopath apparently can't genuinely ever make the "normal's" calculation that genuinely accounts for the existence of other humans as humans not objects or equal entities feeling same feelings, and instead is perpetually stuck in the psychopath mode like the gear shift broke off.
Psychopaths understand the World as it really is - and act in the best interest of their chosen outcome. It's not good or evil, just focused and unconcerned with everyone else's chosen outcome. Besides which, everyone should worry more about normal people, who deliberately do bad things to each other and get pleasure from doing so.
My mom is a psychopath. She knows what's right and wrong on a logical level, but in the heat of the moment, she completely loses sight of it. When she makes the wrong call, it leaves you absolutely speechless. Sometimes, you wonder how someone could even come up with these scenarios-they seem almost stupid. For instance, she gave my dog away to a kill shelter because she didn’t like him much and thought I couldn’t take care of him due to some financial issues, even though I never had a problem with that. I had the dog for six years before she even met him, and she did this after only seeing him three times for five minutes each. I ended up breaking her 98-inch TV just to get her to tell me which shelter so I could get my dog back. The point is, you can't get too emotionally invested with people like this-they'll crush your soul. If you can understand that, you might be able to maintain some weird, distant respect for them. It takes her years to admit she’s wrong, and even then, I’m not sure she really believes it.
That's describing a sociopath, not a psychopath. A psychopath mother wouldn't give a dog that you care about, to a kill shelter - it serves no purpose.....there would be more benefit to look after it well - and by doing so, have you love them more. If you love your mother more, you do more things for her - it's transactional. I'm afraid your mum's a sociopath!
@@jacksullivan1937 They are an emotional construct, correct, because humans have emotions. Hence why you don’t want emotionless psychopaths in charge of anything.
I cut off a friend of 17 years who turned out to be a psychopath. He was never violent. He just didn't have empathy and sense of marital fidelity. And he was oddly juvenile when it comes to demeanors.
It's easy to say when you know that she's a psychopath. But is every person who fake smiles and isn't making emotional eye contact a psychopath? People making generalizations is pretty harmful to those who don't actually have a problem.
@@158-i6z Your comment is accurate, I have psychopathy and I NEVER smile, even as a child, not in photos, I don't even find jokes funny.. I use to envy people who can show facial expressions and emotions, as a person I just can't fake things if it isn't real or intrinsic, so I'm stuck with this paralyzed face.
@@TheFriendlyPsychopath Where did you get the idea of being a psychopath?. You sound more like something else entirely is going on... something not at all related to psychopathy.
Starts out by saying she’s not at all violent nor has violent tendencies and then by the end basically admits that : 1) there’s a monster inside of her that is willing to take it to any level 2) is not in control of her actions during her fugue states 3) she has indeed stalked intended targets 4) literally cares about nothing and no one This ladies and gentlemen is why you absolutely cannot trust a psychopath. Ever.
I just watched a separate clip of this same interview where she says that before she got therapy she never cared what people thought of her. She said that’s why high school was so easy for her. She also said that she does not feel guilt or remorse. But here, she’s saying that psychopaths feel all of these things like regular people. She is saying two opposite things.
I think she has a hard time explaining the things she was “taught to do” as a kid, growing up in a hippie environment, versus the absolute range of what her response could be in any particular situation. I think it’s not helpful to say “well she says she doesn’t have empathy, then she says she has empathy!” When she’s likely trying to relay “I can only have empathy in hindsight, which I learned to do through my non-violent childhood, and through seeking treatment as an adult.” She also laughs at some of the things she does, because she sees how silly or weird her actions were compared to what society considers normal. She’s laughing at her self because that’s what she would do to someone else. She can’t trigger herself, because she doesn’t see herself as a threat, and doesn’t care. We’re forgetting that most psychopaths are raised along side us, and can learn how to “act” in public, and can learn to reduce their frustration and anger when disciplined because they also can learn pattern recognition. E.g. If I do these things and people get mad every time, and punish me, I will be angry and frustrated, so I will no longer do that.
Disagree. It seems she smiles for a deeper reason. It appears she is explaining a hard truth that she knows will be met with disapproval or will be hard to swallow for some... But she's going to say it anyway. It's the same notable smile that you see when anticipation is involved. Though it seems she anticipates those things much more rapidly and stays the course anyway. I'd say this is straightforward and blunt, open and honest, and not manipulative. Though she has that potential and the capacity... I don't see it occuring during this conversation.
It's weird seeing someone finally explaining what my autistic self has been trying to explain about people. I find it hard to understand psychopathic thinking and living even though I'm almost always right there with her, just slightly more aware of the surroundings. I don't ever do anything like steal or hurt someone, not because I can't but because it seems like too much work. You have to think 15 steps a head and the worst part is the shame of being caught. I'm not heartless, but I do think that more people who are criminals are everyday people who are simply terrible and evil human beings. But they come in all forms, though it is more known that psychopaths can fall into that category... I do think that I would be more scared of a pathological liar or someone who uses anger or hate to justify their actions. This lady may be in the minority of her label, but I find it healthy to see this as she isn't low functioning which I think most killer psychopaths are, she is high functioning enough that she understands herself and can express herself in a way that neurotypicals can comprehend. That is highly admirational.
@apachehelicopter7625 Still, radically different to psychopathy, even sociopathy which is also an antisocial disorder is radically different to psychopathy. And is truly a serious mistake to even compare an autistic person with a psychopathic one. Should never been done, at all. Psychopathy is literally pure evil. Autism is affected nervous system that affects comunication and socialization, psychopathy is complete lack of empathy.
The difficulty of thinking multiple steps ahead for an autistic is caused by limited cognitive empathy. But a psychopaths deficiency is affective empathy, not cognitive empathy. It would take less effort for a psychopath, if they were motivated, to plan out an immoral course of action. And it's the psychopath's limited affective empathy that makes them potentially dangerous, if they ever do go down that path. The thing is that, like she explained, there is no particular reason most psychopaths would be generally inclined toward violence. It probably more has to do whether they grew up in violence, experienced it themselves, and had it modeled by others. Personally, as a general rule, I'd have more fear of those on the extreme end of Machiavellianism and narcissism, the other two of the Dark Triad traits.
@apachehelicopter7625 Yeah, autism is a spectrum and has lots of diversity. One thing I remember seeing once related to autism and empathy was, funnily enough, when I was researching about another condition: Williams Syndrome - the hyper-social disorder. People with williams are usually so friendly they can be easily manipulated or assaulted by ill-intended people. Apparently, Autism Spectrum Disorder and Williams Syndrome are frequently characterized as mirror conditions in the socio-cognitive domain, with ASD entailing restrictive social interests meanwhile WS exhibiting high sociability. And scientists have conducted studies that shown this parallel comes from a brain area (or a common genetic variant? I can't remember for sure) that is affected in different ways by both disorders. You can see autistic people with higher or lower empathy due to these differences.
As a highly empathetic person myself, perhaps what someone would call an “empath” I don’t think empathy=goodness. There have been times where I have been very manipulative or overbearing to others, mostly when I was younger because of my high empathy, either by accident or on purpose, to sort of force them to feel better faster, because seeing someone in pain is too much for me sometimes. I am working on it now, and I do consider myself to be a good person. This is why I think ruling out people with ASPD as bad people is incorrect and damaging. My friends little sister has ASPD and she is not empathetic, but still good, and makes good choices simply because she knows it’s right. Empathy or lack thereof does not define whether or not someone is a good person, their actions and words do.
While an inherent lack of empathy does not make a person "bad" it is a major life obstacle. Life is filled with nuance and gray areas of moral or ethical decision making.
@@GlichyyI think you misunderstood my comment- I meant anti social personality disorder, not autism. ASPD stands for anti social personality disorder. ASD stands for the outdated label of autism spectrum disorder.
@@astridlil there are dark empaths…which are probably the most dangerous…they can feel the emotions of others but they aren’t effected in the same way…so they can manipulate in very subtle ways…empathy, you’re right…doesn’t mean a good person…that would be compassionate…and a sociopath or psychopath can learn to be compassionate…it’s just that they don’t have the same motive driving them…the morality is absent because they don’t get a sense of reward or punishment…Brain scans show that those paths in the brain are absent
i've never heard of any empath manipulating people to force them to heal faster, that's very interesting. i'd be interested if you could elaborate more on that.
I am very surprised at my reaction to this extremely powerful and honest video. I like this woman and would have no qualms in having her as a friend. This woman is extremely intelligent, rational, self aware, introspective, objective, open minded, conscientious, responsible, accountable, honest, direct, reasonable and understands she is different from others and most admirably she accepts the fact and truth about how she is different and actively has been in treatment to understand AND learn how to become a better human, person, employee, friend, daughter, etc… I am beyond grateful for this priceless education you’ve provided me with today. I know, my gratitude and appreciation means nothing to her but it does to me. And I am perfectly good with that.😎
I do find it surprising about the friendship part. If she can't feel empathy what makes people sure she'd even be a good friend? What makes you certain she'd care at all if she made you feel shit or cancel plans on you at the last minute? If she can't connect deeply how can she even form meaningful friendships? Wouldn't they all lack depth? She's never mentioned feeling any love in any of her videos.
Gray rage basically is when psychopaths are hit by their narcissism, with the bonus fact that they won't feel guilt or shame for actually hurting you in contrast to simple narcissists. Great.
How is it narcissism? Wouldn't it be more related to a territorial/domination instinct? I am not a psychopath but I actually have experienced something similar to this. It feels very instinctual, like the instinct a social animal has to assert dominance over a lesser/weaker member of the group when they sense that that member is not acting in accordance with their strength and dominance capabilities. I've recognized the behavior in real life in chickens, dogs, and with humans. It's creepy to experience, because I'm philosophically very egalitarian.
ASPD and NPD may be in the same personality disorder cluster, and appear to be associated more closely than they are because of the Dark Triad concept, but having one doesn't automatically mean you have the other.
This was eye opening. It’s one thing to read about this type of condition but hearing someone actively say they don’t think about consequences and can go on autopilot is the scary honesty we need from this group.
No, it isn't. Maybe if you compared raw numbers that would be true - but only because there are simply more "normal" people, and psychopaths are about 1-3% of society. But if you consider how likely a given group is to be violent/commit crimes - psychopaths are HUGELY overrepresented.
I’ve got narcissistic and sociopathic tendencies, not full blown. But definitely the tendencies. I’ve learned to take my negative energy and turn them into a positive, and when it came to my competition, I buried them by putting them out of business. How? by my narcissistic charm and channeling that energy into a work ethic that no one could keep up with. I simply outperformed my competition.
She seems very likable to me. I have a friend who also has psychopathy and whom I like. He likes me too, and we're good friends, despite his lack of empathy. His limitations would make other people lonely but his lack of empathy saves him from that, and he is happy. Just different, and that's ok.
@@ChrisGossTheBoss Thanks! He's been a good friend, and at times a close friend, for most of my life. I'm pretty sure that he just likes and finds me interesting, and someone he can talk with more openly about how he sees and feels (or doesn't feel) others.
She literally talked about trying to kill a baby opossum. Rewatch the series. Also, your "friend" doesn't care about you if he really is a psychopath. You make no sense unless you too are a psychopath. No offense... That's what the other person in the comment above implied. You miss interpreted that which is concerning too🤔
@@EyesOfCalm Trying to kill a baby opossum disturbs me - but, then again, I haven't met anyone who, when you get to know them properly, hasn't disturbed me in some way or other. Friendships and other relationships don't have to be symmetric: what I feel for a friend doesn't need to be reciprocated in exactly the same way; it usually isn't. It's a matter of treating people on terms that suit both them and yourself. My friend is indeed a true friend, for whom I feel empathy and warmth towards and who, though he can't empathise with my feelings that well (if at all), is still loyal and full of goodwill towards me. He just has a few good friends like that, in my case three decades worth of friendship, and he's proved that he is reliable whenever I might need help, just as I am for him. (Slightl caveat: he's more of a high-functioning sociopath than psychopath.) More generally, most of my friends and family are neuro-divergent at least one way or the other, and you just have to treat everyone individually, sometimes having to manage the relationship and keep a certain distance or stick to certain safe/comfortable modes of interaction with each other. I've only met a few actually evil people; nearly everyone else lives up (or down) to expectations.
I think that a deep work of self-awareness can balance out serious conditions, even one like this. Probably knowing the consequences of his actions in a practical sense balances his lack of empathy
They will never beable to feel guilt , remorse or empathy . The best that can be done is they get more self awareness to stop old patterns. However they will never feel empathy .
We understand consequences, it's what stops us from doing many things. It's just that things that don't rely on a physical or otherwise important asset in their punishment do not cross our minds, for instance we have no moral qualms about taking someone's money, but legal concerns often prevent us from doing so.
@@theeguy9022I honestly think that every human could and many likely would commit horrendous acts if there were no consequences. I personally feel an overly emotional person is more dangerous. It reminds me of the old argument of how someone can be morally sound if they do not believe in God.
@@LadyGaia1985because empathy makes you feel bad for hurting others. I don’t want to steal your money because it would make ME feel bad. It’s not logical or consequence based. Evolution made humans this way because it makes us play well with others. The species can support some percentage of psychopaths but if it got too high it wouldn’t be adaptive anymore. It is this emotional system (empathy) that keeps tribal humans from harming each other (within the same tribe), more so than logic or consequences. It’s a little hard for people to understand because we now live in a world full of strangers that you don’t care about. But for all of evolutionary history we lived in small tribes.
yes. The answer was and is, yes. Her example of everyone else would be dangerous if they had no guilt, just says she has no guilt. You’re safe, as long as your death has no benefit.
@:55 This is the classic manipulative rhetoric that you will hear from a psychopath/sociopath. "I am just like you" or "We no different from you." "Sociopaths are no different from other people" etc, etc or some variation on this theme.
"I don't think psychopaths are predisposed to violence, though it is easier for us to be violent than regular people." Literally the textbook definition.
Some people are more violent than others, a small annoyance and they are hitting people. not everyones immediate reaction to a small annoyance is to hold up a fist.
@@shawnstephens1251because majority of the people are not psychopaths (around 2% of the population). But more than 20% of the killers have ASPD. What does it tell you?
Breaks my heart to see a lot of the comments here.......All of ya for mental health awareness, and people seeking help. Yet, majority of ya would rather shun than understand. This comment section is exactly why a lot of people don't come out and talk about their issues. Good job everyone. GREAT job.
I like this woman alot! So good to listen to someone who is so to the point. I'm very close to a sociopath and being very empathic i find the time i spend with them very draining but i am always there and supportive as i deeply love this person. I know i will only extract the best version of them if i give my best version.
I think the “grey rage” she describes is a threat response to restriction of movement. When you’re playing life on God-mode, it would be satisfying to prove it to a smug NPC
I understand that they have a brain problem that inhibits them from feeling empathy. What I would like to know is how reason factors into their handicap. So for example, you may not naturally empathize with another human being, but you can reason that they have similar experiences to your own, and that if you want a certain kind of consideration from others, it would make sense to give back in kind.
Maybe that is exactly the affective empathy bit that is missing? I assume that you can also on a cognitive level understand that stuff like providing comfort, kindness, basic decency is sort of transactional because you observed that social pattern over time - but it may require an extra step and more (constant) awareness? Our affective empathy could be what keeps many of us in check most of the time because we kind of automatically imagine how others would feel in certain situations. And we don’t want that for them. Like, I can imagine scratching out my abuser’s eyes on an abstract level for a few seconds but I’d never actually physically harm them if given the chance because I don’t want anyone to suffer; it doesn’t erase my own suffering, after all. Just creates more suffering within them and myself and the world. But that’s the putting-oneself-in-other-folks’-shoes part that I suppose is missing in folks with psychopathy and NPD (?) Maybe? Don’t know though.
Yes. There are more conditions than just psychopathy that can impair someone's ability to experience empathy to varying degrees. However, "cognitive empathy" can be taught, learned, and practiced. People who we describe as "lacking empathy" frequently are unable to have the *emotional* experience of empathy, in which witnessing another person's emotional state elicits a similar or complimentary emotional response in themselves. That doesn't mean that they are incapable of learning these cues and responding appropriately a lot of the time. Basically, instead of getting there through the heart, they can get there through the mind. Developing cognitive empathy skills often improves these people's personal lives and interactions over time, and so they can be motivated to continue the practice.
I'm an antisocial and sadistic psychopath (think Dahmer, Kemper, Bundy type). Managed to work as a Chef for 20+ years very successfully without injuring anyone. I tend to save the violent urges which I enjoy for the people who are deserving like pea doughs, people who try to harm me or others physically or psychologically etc. If you get caught you didn't do enough calculation and planning. No therapist will touch me because the majority of their techniques simply don't work. I'm also calculating every detail the second I walk through the door from their chosen outfit body language how they've decorated their office even down to the stationary they use and their speech, not just what they say but the tone in which they say it. I treat it like a game of chess placing pieces of information and looking for the upper hand to make the mask believable. I'm told I'm impossible to read and blend in far too well. I even find forensic psychologists and detectives simple to manipulate as they are so often bound by the human barrier which works in my favour. See you out there...😬
It is quite enjoyable playing what I call “mental chess” as you also described it as chess with them as well! Well really anyone… some games are less enjoyable and easily won… some take longer and provide quite a bit of entertainment.
I do know what she's talking about with the rage, it is exactly happening in me as she's describing it, it's like a need to show every person if they're unaware of crossing social boundaries, it does feel really out of control and obsessional, like fulfilling my destiny. It is also very clear-headed, but it kinda tends to deconcentrate me from the social situation or my own social pleasures when it happens. And yet, I am not a psychopath, although I may have disturbed empathy, but it would mostly be caused by dissociation, and at times I do get out of this disconnection form my feelings, I no longer have some of these other problems that she's talking about on this channel too.
She just sounds and looks like the head of an HR department.
Yes! Yes! Yes! I couldn’t quite put my fingers on it and then saw your response!!! Perfect!!! 👏
True. She reminds me of a modern day liberal feminist.
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Which is a requirement of being the head of HR btw... I checked
Thing is, you don’t have to be violent to be dangerous
Yeah that's what all those "psychos are just normal people" folks don't understand. Just because you're not a serial killer doesn't mean you're not dangerous. These people will engage in deplorable practices, manipulation, psychological abuse and will ruin people's lives for the hell of it.
@@nikobitan7294 exactly
Absolutely. In fact I would argue the psychological harm these people can inflict is far, far worse than physical injury.
You do not need to be a psychopath either.
@@nikobitan7294'Could destroy people's lives without remorse.
I love how she talks about psychopathy with the very calm background music you could use for job training videos.
Do you think all killers/serial killers are psychopathic?
A lot of them are actually well integrated into society
And that's one of a huge reasons why our society is more screwed up than it could have been. I mean, I've heard a lot of them are at the very top positions
@@Polina-ji4fe most of them for sure.
And by the way once I met a psychopath matching the stereotypes and it took years before I recovered from the experience of getting to know him.
He was manipulative, tying to use my weaknesses against me for fun and acting like a monster wrapped in human skin. To me he was not even human.
His sight was really unsettling and to this day he is still free to harm people and do his psychopath things.
Anyway, ther are more degrees of psychopathy, some are bordering normality but that person to me didn't even deserve to live.
@@Polina-ji4fe if you don't notice that's because probably they are normal enough that they hide it..
Some of them have nothing good in them and are enjoyi harming other people.
Psychopath says "I don't consider myself dangerous" and then goes on to describe a gray rage where they are going to correct someone who feels too safe.
What she is feeling is rage,emotion to psychopath is foreign so when she talks about "not making a decision yourself" it is literaly that, Rage embodies her and she isn't her,now body is controled by emotion rather than logical thinking which is strange to them and if it's strong enough then it will take over.. And i think most of the time that "lack of authority" is at fault for making them burst out to violence,because mistakes of other people do not bother them,it's insignificant to them..But thinking you can control them and their actions is infuriating to them because they already do not care about social norms so hyarchy dosen't apply to them...
*someone who thinks they can control other people and that theyre completely immune to the consequences of attempting to make others feel inferior.
she also said she feels like she has no control over herself for up to an hour at a time and during that period she just wants to harm someone else hahahah
People feel a lot of dark emotions that they don't express aloud. Doesn't mean they'll do them.
@@damienholland8103 But some do.
“I’m not a regular psychopath, I’m a cool psychopath”
I didnt realise I was a psychopath but I tick all of these boxes.
@@Withnail1969 I tick even _without_ the boxes. Must be psychopathic torrettes syndrome!
@@Withnail1969fight me and my pit bro
Lol exactly
did she hurt someone?
Her lack of scale in a normal person's response to anger, etc., is one of the biggest obstacles my brother (a psychopath) has. The difference is violence isn't his first choice because he just doesn't care, though he has no issue engaging in it. He just goes way overboard when he does.
> Her lack of scale in a normal person's response to anger, etc., is one of the biggest obstacles my brother (a psychopath) has.
What do you mean by "lack of scale" relating to emotion? For example "he took my toy" so a typical child might yell both broth might hit or end the friendship?
@@internetcancer1672 I think it's the difference between smacking someone vs beating someone over and over.
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@@IloveJesus777j77he gave up his 3 day weekend. Stop acting like that’s a big deal.
So, "gray rage" would be the PRECISE thing people fear about Psychopaths
Shes said acting on grey rage is like fulfilling a destiny... That is terrifying
@@alexsell9219 A normal person has a hard enough time not "snapping", take away the things holding them back= Psychopath
@@westbrad6808 aka lack of emotions and/or empathy.
assuming she is telling the truth. but if she was it is very interesting.
Not necessarily. grey rage+severe trauma and humiliation+effects of poverty+miseducation= a real issue. Erase the last three (which would have been THE JOB for the psych-trias to accomplish in the past 150 years or so) and you have fairly controllable issues. Also unlikely you'd have so many serial killers run around.
Tell me you're a psychopath without telling me you're a psychopath.... "I might be dangerous to certain people, through no fault of my own."
She say that she is a psychopath, though.
@@JohanDanielsson8802it’s a figure of speech.
@@clintparsons3989 but in this context is such a stupid thing to say lol
In this context she's almost just talking about it in terms of making people uncomfortable based on their expectations, the way autistic people talk or whatever
What? That's exactly what she is saying directly....she is telling everyone she is, she is explaining it in depht. That is the epitome of "tell me you are X".....Tell me you are an idiot without telling me you are an idiot....
The elevator music in the background takes this to a whole other level.
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It's like they wanna sell me psychopathy as just the thing I need! 🧐
I hope you realize how ironic that is.
i love how everyone in the comments suddenly turns into body language analysts in videos like this
Yeah 😅 considering they already know from the title she is psychopath...
She’s so obviously abnormal though
This seems to be a congress of Psyhopathy.
in addition to psychopathy, this person is expressing autistic traits I think
@@how.disability.justice That would be a mismatch
"I don't think I'm dangerous" but also... "I will got to the enth degree to make sure you realise you have no authority and you're not safe"..... Ok........
You didn't listen correctly: she said, if she notices someone imposing their ego over her she gets this grey rage to show them that's not something she tolerates.
@@Yetipfote 'You didn't listen correctly'......sounds psychopathic.
@@xxxxxx-ow2hp no, sometimes people just don't listen correctly. Don't project your shadow onto me.
@@Yetipfote Which happens a lot in life.
@@RustyShakleford01 I agree, unfortunately.
She speaks of her "intended victim" like this was just a chat about her next holiday
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Sounds like me on dating apps 😂
Because, to them, it is.
Psycho/socipaths are not all prone to violence. Cruelty, maybe, but not violence. The top brass at Enron were sociopaths. They dealt a huge blow to the US economy...because they wanted money and believed they'd get away with it. People killed themselves because they lost all of the value of their Enron stock.
The interviewee prefers "sociopath" because it doesn't have the violent connotations that "psychopath" does. It's important to see the distinction.
Yeah. That’s kinda the main quality of a psychopath.
@@CarlYotaI do love when people are themselves
The way she tells stories is a perfect demonstration of her lacking empathy. She is dissociated from the emotional experience that her actions inspire in other people, and doesn't consider those people in her decision-making - she is wholly self-interested, which is why it can be great (for a time) to emotionally enmesh with someone like this. They can 'set us free' from all worry until we see the reality of who they are.
Humans are insanely complicated.
Jeez…that was perfectly said! Totally agree with you
@@Initium1000 Appreciate it! I hate to admit how much I've had my heart shattered by people like this.
Well said. I would make one minor qualification to what you said though. I wouldn't recommend becoming emotionally enmeshed with someone like this, even for a little bit. There is something compelling and alluring about a person who glides though life with the confidence and amorality of a great white shark. You might even envy someone like that. But psychopaths have the same sense of reciprocity in relationships as sharks do.
Humans are NOT complicated. This is why we understand human beings. The universe appears to be unknowing and a mystery. The ocean depths are still left unexplored, but humans??? No, my lady, they are absolutely not complicated. The average human is innately driven by selfish desires. It starts from birth, and they learn to adjust these impulses through interaction with their community. Empathy can be taught and developed, and it is utterly, and absolutely necessary. A sociopath/psychopath, however, is the embodiment of evil and when you have truly met one, there is no question. There is no complication or rationalizing it more than it really is. (As a psychoanalyst, seek the renowned M. Scott Peck as a good jumping point for more clarity. He has had direct confrontations and interactions with them).
Can understand. Of course a psychopath can only conjure an illusion of "freedom." They're not actually "gods" walking the earth as their minds stuck in psychopath mode tricks itself in a critical malfunction. That malfunction is what makes them dangerous and leads to terrible consequences, as it's true many people do wind up under the psychopath's spell (manipulation they're all about) and wind up following psychopaths over the cliff. It's curious "normals" keep doing this over and over and why the "normals" are always so easily and willingly seduced by psychopaths as if the "normals" desperately need the psychopaths to exist
“I’m only 5 foot four” makes it seem like if she was more of a physical presence she would act differently
I'm no psychopath but yeah, if I was a foot taller and anyone challenged me, there would be no backing down, no deescalation.
@@AzraelRaziel-so9lx you can always carry something for protection?
All the false allegations from the me to movement and you don't think a 5 foot 4 woman are dangerous? Johnny Depp had video and audio recordings of being abused and it took years to clear his name after being fired by Disney and other companies.....
@@AzraelRaziel-so9lx Yes, most of us have the ability to calculate the situation before acting.
That's what I gathered as well. "Logically I can't use this method so I'd have to use another"
The immediate qualifier of “through no fault of my own” after suggesting she might have upset somebody is pretty telling
this is total conjecture but it feels like the reason her smile is so unsettling is because she's smiling for herself and only herself. she isn't smiling to connect, but more than anything she isn't smiling to communicate. it's just muscles moving.
Okay, but if I as a neurotypical smiled at my screen because I came across a witty pun or thought about something that brings me joy, would that be the same thing? Because then I’m not really communicating with anyone either, right?
And what about smiling at an article that leaves you confused? You’re not really smiling at the author of the article but also at and for yourself, right? I dunno, just thoughts.
@@curuvari2247 Right, I feel like if she was talking about some gore movie in this way and we didn't know she was a psychopath beforehand, no one would notice her supposedly 'psychopathic' smile or pull apart any sort of gestures she is doing. I think it's just people's cognitive bias kicking in for the most part.
@@curuvari2247 the thing is that in those situations, one is not communicating with anyone, but in this one, the person is, or is meant to be.
@curuvari2247 They never mentioned smiling at an article. You're projecting your experience on the video and the OP of this comment when your comment actually has nothing to do with what they are talking about on the video.
@@elizabethsedai854 I meant that if I read an article, I’d also be smiling to and for myself, just like OP said the woman were only smiling to and for herself. And I was wondering if that would make me look equally unsettling to an observer then.
Does that make sense? Otherwise, could you please elaborate on your comment as to how I am projecting? /gen
Some psychopaths are smart enough to conduct themselves in a manner in which they don’t rot in jail. That’s intelligence not regret or remorse.
Kinda scary how even rage for a psycopath sounds more methodical than rage for a typical person. The way she emphasizes that when grey-raging she thinks something needs "correcting", whereas a typical person might think something needs to be destroyed or won't even think at all.
And they are very efficient in such harm outrage situations, for example I got high pressure, slight tremor in body, red face, etc all in one, mom stay still, slight smile, like boss in vacation relaxed area talking to slave, calm voice "why so nervous reaction, you can get insult, big deal that i thow out that device, your mom was wrong (she never ever directly apologize btw, always - your parents such a shame - or -your mom was wrong), I cannot know all that your electronic things purpose". I think she have some joy to turn ppl in such mode, like well done complex job. Some scene preparations, proper phrases, precision timings.
@@AABB-px8lcAre you okay?
Reminds me of the brilliant cinematic dialog in the all-red restroom in "The Shining", when Delbert Grady finally admits to Mr Torrence to have recognized the need to "correct" his wife and daughters, in a very violent manner, indeed.
Exactly. The "grey rage" seems more like could be fake "rage" or something other than "rage," almost like if you were, in the psychopath's shoes, a "god" walking the earth, and a mere mortal tried to "control" you allegedly "without authority," which is in reality most likely just some basic thing in society like don't light fireworks around babies, and your "powers" or "destiny" automatically completely obliterate annihilate the mere "mortal" who dared cross you, to "correct them" for "feeling safe" (odd phrasing since we're told psychopaths don't think about other people or their emotions).
Something strikes me the "grey rage" thing might not just be about what she claims it's about, but probably the psychopath might actually derive great pleasure from the methodical "correcting" part of the annihilation of someone supposedly "trying to control them," when really it's the other way around...
Wow such great insight, you all have as much understanding of her as she does of you…… you dont have shared experiances. Also the other name for grey rage might be described as unsignation to us
….hmmmm….asking a psychopathic lawyer if she is dangerous…hmmm…
It's very apparent she is honestly expressing her misunderstanding of how many humans think and feel. She does not understand empathy because one reason to not do something violent or hurtful that many people factor in is to not want someone else to feel the negative consequences that would come from a certain behavior or action. Not wanting another to experience that pain is a huge reason to not do something negative, regardless of being caught or worrying about judgements of others.
That is the greater danger in her psychopathy that she probably could never fully comprehend.
Beautifully expressed.
True.
Imagine taking away the fear of judgment or consequences and keeping the emotions. Every human has the capacity to do harm, and many would if they could get away with it. I think it has little to do with empathy and more to do with consequences.
This. I desperately don't want others to feel bad on my account. It hurts in my heart when I knowingly or unknowingly cause others to suffer. So, I'm always bewildered when others are so forthright in harming others for self gain...
She just slipped in the fact that she was a lawyer. Girl, you knew exactly what you were doing!
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Yea you definitely see how her manipulation comes out here she is manipulating her audience . Psychopaths have inappropriate rage so to say they aren’t violent is not true . Even ones that don’t commit physical violence often do acts that harm other cause they have no empathy everyone around them is literally a stepping stool
She never said she didn't know what she was doing?? her entire demeaner was always that she exactlyknows what she is doing....
@@peterlustig8778 it was just a joke. I didn't say anything bad about her. My comment was more praise than anything
@@celeste8157 OK
Her admission of manipulation and self-destruction in part 4 is fascinating.
This well educated goof is a ticking time bomb
I mean, it’s an interview.
Thanks for sharing. It's ironic or very appropriate that she is a lawyer. This could explain a lot about lawyers.
Yes. There are places in society for everyone to thrive.
In social science research, the rates of psychopathy among CEOs and corporate upper management is about the same as the rates of psychopathy among prisoners. This tells one a lot about our society of corporate capitalism built on extremes of high inequality, dominance hierarchies, social Darwinism, and hyper-individualism. One wonders what an actual functioning free market would look like that wasn't owned, controlled, and ruled by psychopaths, other dark personalities (narcissists, Machiavellians, sadists), and social dominators.
Certain professions attract psychopaths 1. CEO
2. Lawyer
3. Media (Television/Radio)
4. Salesperson
5. Surgeon
6. Journalist
7. Police officer
8. Clergy person
9. Chef
10. Civil servant
They seem to have an element of controlling other people - especially those who are at a higher level. Psychosis is also more common in men and these professions are male dominated at least at higher level.
I found the inclusion of clergy rather disturbing!
Least likely professions for psychopaths:
1. Care aide
2. Nurse
3. Therapist
4. Craftsperson
5. Beautician/Stylist
6. Charity worker
7. Teacher
8. Creative artist
9. Doctor
10. Accountant…
Quite a few female dominated jobs
@Trainrhys
@Trainrhys Well you can add nurses and social people too.
I am not dangerous. Also, I like to try to track people down when I'm angry.
Classic psychopath!
Tom and Jerry was a good show.
One of THE most psychotic statements/ideas I have ever heard, “I am going to correct someone about their false sense of safety”. Wow! …and said with a smile and a chuckle.
You mean psychopathic, not psychotic. What do you think psychotic actually means? You keep using that word, I do not think it means what you think it means...
It doesn't mean violent, or aggressive. Or anything like that. A lot of people confuse it with the term "psychopathic" which has absolutely nothing to do with it, it's not even remotely the same thing.
Remember, mentally ill people, including people going through an episode of psychosis, commit _FEWER_ crimes on average per person than mentally healthy people do, including violent crimes.
Mentally ill people, including those with psychosis, are actually way more likely to be _VICTIMS_ of crime than mentally healthy people are. I can post sources for this if you want.
As someone with schizophrenia it just really bothers me when people completely misuse the word "psychosis" because it just adds to the awful stigma that people like me already have to face, when people think we're violent or killers even though we're a lot more likely to be victims of those kinds of crimes than mentally healthy people are, and we commit fewer crimes per person than mentally healthy people do. Statistics and facts never seem to matter to people, they just hear "psychotic" or "schizophrenic" and think that we're dangerous when we're not.
The only danger we pose is to ourselves, from self harm and suicide.
When I have an episode of psychosis, my paranoia just goes into overdrive. To try and sum it up, I always think I'm in a Truman show mine of situation, where everyone is actor, I think everyone is spying on me, watching absolutely everything I do, everything I do on my computer and phone and tablet is monitored, there are secret hidden cameras in my apartment that I spend hours trying to find, and so on.
That's what being psychotic actually is. It's just when I'm very ill, and I become suicidal because I think I'm constantly being watched and monitored and everyone I know is secretly an actor and so I can't trust them, even my family. I think any food they make for me is poisoned. It's so stressful living like that that dying feels like the only escape.
When you're psychotic, you feel like you're completely sane, and it's everyone and everything around you that's gone crazy, the world itself has gone insane and you're the one sane person left. You feel completely alone. Then I report this to my psychiatrists and I get a higher dose of the anti-psychotics meds, or different anti psychotics meds, and within a few weeks I feel normal again and I can't believe the crazy shit that I was convinced was true only a few weeks before.
I'm not sure exactly what you think "psychotic" means. But please stop adding to the stigma mentally ill people have to face, that makes our lives so hard, makes it incredibly difficult to find employment, to find a place to live that'll accept you there because they're one of the only ones who don't think you're dangerous. There's a reason why so so so many people with schizophrenia end up homeless.
We aren't a danger to you. We are just normal people. The percentage of people with schizophrenia is the same as the percentage of people who are gay. So think how many gay people you know, and realise that you very likely know around the same number of people who have schizophrenia. And you have no idea, unless they tell you. Because it's very very easy to hide, and we are just normal people just like you. We aren't dangerous or violent. We are your friends, your co-workers, your family members.
Don't believe what Hollywood movies show, Hollywood movies never depict mental illness accurately. We aren't serial killers. We're people who are whacky and weird and go around on street corners shouting about ridiculous things.
We are so so much more likely to be victims of crime, including violent crime, than you mentally healthy people are. And so adding to the stigma we have to face and claiming we're dangerous, is victim blaming.
Sorry for the long post but this obviously is incredibly important to me. And to a lot of people. There are millions and millions and millions of us and you encounter someone with schizophrenia every single day. And you don't even know. Because we're just normal people, we just have a mental disability.
You mean psychopathic, not psychotic. What do you think psychotic actually means? You keep using that word, I do not think it means what you think it means...
It doesn't mean violent, or aggressive. Or anything like that. A lot of people confuse it with the term "psychopathic" which has absolutely nothing to do with it, it's not even remotely the same thing.
Remember, mentally ill people, including people going through an episode of psychosis, commit ***fewer*** crimes on average per person than mentally healthy people do, including violent crimes.
Mentally ill people, including those with psychosis, are actually way more likely to be ***victims*** of crime than mentally healthy people are. I can post sources for this if you want.
As someone with schizophrenia it just really bothers me when people completely misuse the word "psychosis" because it just adds to the awful stigma that people like me already have to face, when people think we're violent or killers even though we're a lot more likely to be victims of those kinds of crimes than mentally healthy people are, and we commit fewer crimes per person than mentally healthy people do. Statistics and facts never seem to matter to people, they just hear "psychotic" or "schizophrenic" and think that we're dangerous when we're not.
The only danger we pose is to ourselves, from self harm and suicide.
When I have an episode of psychosis, my paranoia just goes into overdrive. To try and sum it up, I always think I'm in a Truman show mine of situation, where everyone is actor, I think everyone is spying on me, watching absolutely everything I do, everything I do on my computer and phone and tablet is monitored, there are secret hidden cameras in my apartment that I spend hours trying to find, and so on.
That's what being psychotic actually is. It's just when I'm very ill, and I become suicidal because I think I'm constantly being watched and monitored and everyone I know is secretly an actor and so I can't trust them, even my family. I think any food they make for me is poisoned. It's so stressful living like that that dying feels like the only escape.
When you're psychotic, you feel like you're completely sane, and it's everyone and everything around you that's gone crazy, the world itself has gone insane and you're the one sane person left. You feel completely alone. Then I report this to my psychiatrists and I get a higher dose of the anti-psychotics meds, or different anti psychotics meds, and within a few weeks I feel normal again and I can't believe the crazy shit that I was convinced was true only a few weeks before.
I'm not sure exactly what you think "psychotic" means. But please stop adding to the stigma mentally ill people have to face, that makes our lives so hard, makes it incredibly difficult to find employment, to find a place to live that'll accept you there because they're one of the only ones who don't think you're dangerous. There's a reason why so so so many people with schizophrenia end up homeless.
We aren't a danger to you. We are just normal people. The percentage of people with schizophrenia is the same as the percentage of people who are gay. So think how many gay people you know, and realise that you very likely know around the same number of people who have schizophrenia. And you have no idea, unless they tell you. Because it's very very easy to hide, and we are just normal people just like you. We aren't dangerous or violent. We are your friends, your co-workers, your family members.
Don't believe what Hollywood movies show, Hollywood movies never depict mental illness accurately. We aren't serial killers. We're people who are whacky and weird and go around on street corners shouting about ridiculous things.
We are so so much more likely to be victims of crime, including violent crime, than you mentally healthy people are. And so adding to the stigma we have to face and claiming we're dangerous, is victim blaming.
Sorry for the long post but this obviously is incredibly important to me. And to a lot of people. There are millions and millions and millions of us and you encounter someone with schizophrenia every single day. And you don't even know. Because we're just normal people, we just have a mental disability.
@duffman18 I have dealt with a sociopath in my life for 20 years. I am well aware of the differences between the types of psychopathy.
I wasn't referring to violent tendencies. I see the inability to empathize or sympathize with other people's feelings.
Furthermore, I think the definition of "dangerous" should be clarified as well. Yes... people who have psychotic personalities can pose a physical danger to others. They can and do more often present other dangers such as emotional, financial, and even spiritual dangers to those who get close to them or even to those in whom they know only for a short time.
Psychotic people are dangerous until they have hurt people so much that they finally hurt themselves enough to understand that they need to change something. They don't change because they feel bad about hurting others, however. They only change because they finally HAD to change so they could get themselves out of trouble. You don't get them to finally start to see the world the way an average person does. They won't ever do that.
If you are psychotic, in my experience, you are dangerous in one way or another. Not necessarily physically but willing to hurt me or others for your own purposes unless you have finally hurt yourself so bad that you now care to change.
I speak from experience. I don't care what Hollywood does.
Good luck to you. I hope you can sort things out for the better. 🙏
I understood that statement to a high degree.
@@duffman18Let's not nitpick.
Did she say gray rage? Her explaining how sometimes she feels the impulse to threaten or hurt someone just because they have a false sense of their own personal safety sent chills down my spine. Unfortunately, it’s quite common for a person to grow cold, angry, and violent with enough pressure.
However, being able to smile and calmly explain your impulsive rage which leads to violent emotions rather than rationalizing the action away or defending it, was scary.
Lol honestly it made a lot of sense to me because I grew up around men who were excessively violent (not to me but in their lives) and that is a clinical way of describing their behavior and feelings in a lot of interaction, it’s sort of dissecting the emotions behind the fraze “who the fuck do you think your talking to?” Or “remember who you talking to?” What’s funny about psychopaths is they’re born with personality traits other people have to pushed or conditioned to sometimes over the course of a lifetime.
@@Danheron2 It's a neurodevelopmental disorder, that results from a complex interaction between genes and environment, so most if not all of them, are the result of their life experience+their genes.
3:43 she turned into Jack Nicholson’s Joker!😂
No, you didn't understand what she said. She said that gray rage is triggered when someone has a false sense of authority AND a false sense of their own personal safety. It sounds this rage is a response to being challenged. She is not just going up to people and threatening them because they look weak.
Maybe you have a problem with listening to people. That's really not a good trait and it can get you into trouble.
That is not what she said.
What she said is people who have a false sense of their authority and personal safety and they try to assert authority over you.
That would piss off every normal person I know.
I spent time with a psychopath about a year ago and it went very badly. I really value that this channel is helping the world understand this condition better. I still have not figured out how to reconcile the bottomless moral repulsion as well as fear one experiences from a psychopath, with the realization that they are born this way and in a way it’s not their fault. From that perspective hating them seems irrational; but it’s not clear what else is to be done. Avoid them? Friendship, trust, understanding with them is impossible. They only live to deceive. They don’t have the normal emotions or reward mechanisms other people have. They are never actually invested in the relationship as a friendship, they’re just calculating a way to use you. Thus, it is almost antithetical to try to empathize with a psychopath; empathy implies a degree of acknowledgment of someone’s inner humanity; it implies you recognize the fundamental good in someone. But there is none in psychopaths. That was a hard lesson for me to learn.
They aren't born that way. They are created through neglect and abuse as babies and toddlers. But they are abused at such a young and critical development stage that they don't remember the abuse, even though that is what shaped their brain to be as it is.
I disagree, at least in regards to the idea that empathy implies an acknowledgement of someone's inner humanity and goodness. For example, it's quite possible to empathize with animals, even ones that are by nature self-centered. If someone's pet fish gets injured, I can empathize with it and feel sorry that it is experiencing pain, because I know what pain feels like, and I don't want other beings to experience pain. I realize that feeling that someone is a bad person can make it extremely difficult to feel empathy for them, because no one wants to empathize with someone they dislike or even hate. But if you try to, it is actually perfectly possible to empathize with someone you dislike. Because this woman is articulate in explaining her experiences, I actually found it easy to empathize with her. Ironically, the only people for whom empathy actually is sometimes literally impossible is psychopaths.
Dude just avoid psychopaths. If u can somehow recognize one. Avoid them at all costs and do ur best to not let them in your life. Set boundaries and run
I am now afraid of grey rage.
Just Grey Rock the Grey Rage.
Your run of the mill ordinary rage is understandable but this Grey rage thing is next level 😳
@@tw8464How do you experience rage? I feel like confident, "healthy" people experience what she described. I think it speaks of an inner sense of control, to feel simply "destiny" to effect change. It is direct, assertive and non-conflicted.
@@mymaster1402 Confident healthy people don't need to experience rage. Emotionally mature people know that they are not the ones that need to put people in their place. This woman just described a very out-of-body experience in going to extreme lengths, probably more than necessary, to let this person know where they stand in the hierarchy. That's not normal in the slightest.
@@mcmuinorac5848 You don't always get to choose what you feel and when. You can choose how you react to those feelings. If your body is telling you to put an end to something and you keep avoiding dealing with the problem, you'll only be helpless.
if a psychopath tells you they re not dangerous or violent, its the last thing i believe
If a psychopath tells me it’s daytime I’d go out to make sure. To these people, the rest of us are just a hapless bunch of ‘Honest Johns”, if you know what I mean. They don’t really give a shit about much, certainly not lying. And their attitude is ; if you fall for it you deserve it. Terrifying people, truly.
Not really. Those are just assholes, many psychopaths (like me) know that its not a good idea to hurt people physically
she smiles to soften her appearance. she’s manipulating us while we watch with that choreographed smile and constant references to being only 5’4”/non-threatening. though, i appreciate that she was willing to open up and give the world some insight.
Glad I am not the only one who noticed her smiles aren't genuine but calculated. Its unsettling
I'm so glad you can notice people with aspd or psychopathy like us have to consciously make our facial expressions because they don't come naturally. If we are putting in the effort to smile there is a goal, doesn't mean it's a bad one but it's effort. You just gotta be smart
I feel like psychopathy overlaps with autism
@@smithsj227 agreed, unsettling is a very good word to describe it.
I actually went to middle school and HighSchool with this person. It was obvious that there was something …. different …. about her. I have sometimes wondered over the years what *exactly* her condition was …. now I know.
I was not close to her. I cannot say I knew her well. We played on the same softball team a few times over the years.
I remember her being mostly quiet. The only reason I recognized her is her jaw and her smile. The video seemed to randomly appear in my YT feed, and I saw her face, and was like “Is that …J*%?”
This is the most chatty I have ever seen her. In my memory, she was very quiet.
She described her feelings brilliantly and detailed, it was very insightful. Thank you.
She described her lack of feelings in an unemotional and manipulative way*
I’m sure she’s a joy to work with.
According to her, she is not. She had a friend who told her she should be tested for an antisocial personality disorder. She couldn't hold down a job or have relationships with people for longer than 3 years. The tests identified her as having psychopathy which led her to getting a therapist. That work helped her moderate her interactions with people and it improved her relationship with her family probably because it gave them the information they needed to understand that she has a mental health issue.
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She's logical
Only people who are ruled by their feelings would have issues with her, I'll bet she's extremely productive
She should be allowed to do what she needs to do on the day to day but have someone to council her everyfew days forever. However that someone has to change ofc otherwise they might go crazy themselves😅 Dealing with people with this personality is highly intensive majority of the time. Got someone in my family with a similar set of characteristics and also talks the same as this lady does about people, animals, things, whatever as if there is no life involved in the question. Just is what it is, we got a lot of people that have serious deeper problems it not being their choice as well
@@nashoba8712as a lawyer? No, being a lawyer requires and understanding of law, but also people and emotions. She also states she struggles to hold down a job so the productivity isn’t there.
For people who find it interesting or telling that she chose law as her profession: research shows that sociopaths and psychopaths gravitate to careers in
1. the police
2. medicine
3. law
in that order.
ACAP
medicine is kind of a scary one, but i guess it makes sense because if someone gets too emotional over people being hurt, they wouldn't last long in healthcare where they have to endure people dying and being hurt all of the time. but it can also explain some narcissistic doctors who aren't willing to actually listen to their patients
Authority
Entertainment industry and business leadership seems to have a higher occurrence of them too
Don’t forget sales
I wonder which book she’s talking to?
She's turning to the bookcase to hide a blemish on her right cheek , which could be a scar . Perhaps receiving violence is a greater than average risk for psychopaths ?
Yes, weird
I think what she is trying to explain is that she might be damaging, but not necessarily with the intention to harm or will enjoy inflicting harm to others. As a former victim of abuse by different types of anti socials, you can clearly see that many will harm others because they think the other deserves it... it's their fault.
But that is totally different than the aspect of sadism. Harming for the sake of harming, to relief themselves of boredom and taking deep joy, self validation by the harm they inflict and the physical/mental signs of inflicted harm, the reactions to the wounds inflicted. I suspect that luckily, only few anti socials are also sadist. Maybe there's a 'sadism spectrum'.
Sadism and psychopathy, along with narcissism and Machiavellianism, are all dark personality traits. When all four are included it's called the Dark Tetrad, but others prefer to limit it to the Dark Triad. The argument is sadism doesn't need to be included because it's a common feature of the other three.
I don't know if all psychopaths would have a greater capacity for sadism. It is more common among them, but often it's just a potential, not necessarily actual behavior. The psychopath in this video likely doesn't at present exhibit sadism, if it might be easier for something to trigger it in her under the right conditions.
@@MarmaladeINFP lol, i am one of those sticking by the dark triad theory so to speak.. I wouldn't say that sadism is by definition a part of hybrid narcissism/psychopathy. I've known several people diagnosed as psychopath, or sociopath or narcissistic psychopath, borderline, narcissist. And a few who i don't know of but very strongly leaned towards such a disorder and of all those individuals (about 15 in total) was only one who would harm for the sake of joy/ self validation/ control.
A few of the others could harm in a seemingly sadistic way but that's just how it felt. In retro spect i can see they didn't cause harm for the sake of joy or so.
For example they might protect a warped view on an issue and gaslight you into thinking you are wrong because you are too sensitive about the issue....
And even others of that group were more or less parasitic/manipulative in their approach not as much 'abusive'.
Of course i am no doctor, this is how i experienced these people over very long times.
@@alainvosselman9960 The intention or lack of intention in these types of people is completely irrelevant. The lack of subjectivity and any trace of interiority, as in the case of this woman, means that it does not even make sense to treat them as moral agents. They are simply broken objects that don't work as they should.
@@lucasrinaldi9909 It is relevent when you are trying to understand the clustery B type disorders. I learned about a classification system and in order to categorize one must differentiate between the various shapes and forms they come. I have experienced several people with a cluster b disorder and some who displayed many traits but i can't be sure.
I learned this to better protect myself and it's becoming useful when looking at events like politics or so. Or people's behavior in general.
@@MarmaladeINFP Or she's just too lazy to toruture her victim. Plain apathy.
What strikes me most about her is the complete lack of self-awareness. She keeps saying, "I don't do X" before describing doing exactly X.
You have to remind yourself before taking this person at face value that she is a psychopath, and it seems like she's not even aware that she's being deceptive.
There's no way to know how much of what she says is the truth and how much is manipulation.
@@tw8464it's pretty clear that very little of it is true, the main question is whether she actually has awareness of what is true and what isn't.
she also hardly looks at interviewer or camera and stares at the wall 95% of the time. really creepy.
The thing about psychopaths part of the criteria is inappropriate anger . They are dangerous because they feel no guilt or shame or remorse. So literally they don’t feel bad about anything they do so it is more likely they will make choices that are dangerous for themselves and people around them. Even ones that don’t engage in physical violence do things that are harmful to others. Look at big CEO’s they will gut a company do mass layoffs and not feel a thing.
CEOs wouldn't be a problem if it wasn't for Capitalism. Capitalisms whole end is profit. Blaming it all on psychopaths is just scapegoating. There are plenty of non-psychopathic CEOs who have gutted companies and just moved on with their lives. The difference is that non-psychopaths have a whole range of cognitive biases that help them rationalise what they do. Psychopaths seem to have less illusions about themselves.
No, Capitalisms whole 'thing' is the ability to have freely trade, which is just an analogy for freedom. Which is why it's synonymous with the the best societies that have ever existed (The West), and attempts to 'correct' it have resulted in some of the worst countries that have ever existed (North Korea, Soviet Union, Cambodia, Maoist China).
Psychopaths will do well in any human hierarchy, simply because they have less factors to worry/think about. @@LambentIchor
@@Alexandros11 That's just the propaganda for capitalism. Are you trying to tell me the US is really free?! The reality of capitalism isn't just that capitalists accumulate 'stuff' as in assets. They capture power by using their wealth to have politicians make laws that favour them. This undermines democracy.
There never has been 'free trade'. And this is used by capitalists as an excuse for when capitalism collapses. They say, 'If the markets were really free then this wouldn't happen. Austerity is how governments take money from the ordinary worker and use it to bail-out big business.
The reality is socialism for the rich.
Talking about 'freedom', what is this freedom? You think having a broad range of stuff to consume is freedom?
You have to be an American.
@@LambentIchor If we were in a Socialist system the all the psychopaths would just become bureaucrats or commissars. If someone with power in a Socialist system wants to destroy your particular way of life you still don't have any recourse.
Hitler wasn't a psychopath, so it seems you are more related to him than woman from video. 🤣
A big part of understanding psychopaths is understanding that you can’t appeal to their emotions. They do not understand emotions on the same level that most people do. Appeal to their logic, be genuine and don’t show fear. If you do; be honest. Not understanding something is what bothers a psychopath more than anything else. Logic over emotion
This is not unique to sociopaths but also to some neurodivergent people. For example, I am an empath but appealing to emotions is not a winning strategy with me, I can't act illogically just for the sake of emotions.
That grey rage thing is TERRIFYING
False sense of safety...hhhhhhh
Yes especially since it is all in the psychopath's mind and completely disconnected from reality
Its not terrifying. Thats when the big old bear in the Forrest got hunted down. Saving the tribe.
The tribe leader couldnt assert authority over that simple animal nor over the spear holder.
Making the tribe unsafe.
Making the tribe unsafe should make you furious.
4:28 "justice feels good" 😅
That concept of making people think they have a false authority over you is a concept thats honestly amazing how well she explained, and the way she landed the idea. I had a friend back in High School that I remember always talked me about how he managed precisely to blackmail his dad, having him warned because he found out some weed from my friend on his school bag; like I remember how he told me everything was pretty much planned and already had backup plans if that didnt work out, like I remember how he even explained me how that would ruin his relationship with his dad forever because of breaking into the concept of distort who has authority over who. He was such an inteligent dude, but also a very very weird guy, always was relaxed, never mad, he was always focused. I wonder what hes doing now lol
Seems like maybe he might have been a psychopath
Probably a CEO now lol
My mom very like a book The Count of Monte Cristo, now I get it why.
huh? His dad had the weed and his friend sold it to him? Backup plans.....I don't understand the way this is written
@@davebriseno361 it's incoherent
I think the person’s “false sense of authority and safety” is referring to entitled complacency. Grey rage wouldn’t be sparked because someone simply feels “too safe.”
It would be sparked by the psychopath and his malfunctioning brain not actually being in reality. A psychopath might be lighting fireworks right beside his neighbor's house where the infant is sleeping that could catch it on fire. When the mom comes out to tell him to stop, the "grey rage" is triggered because in his malfunctioning mind, she's trying to "control" him and could never possibly ever have any bit of "authority" over him in any way as the mother is not a fellow human his malfunctioning brain can recognize any feelings within her but she is merely an object in the way of the psychopath as a "god" walking the earth goal of pleasure enjoying the fireworks. "Therefore" "logically" in the psychopath's mind that is not actually connected to reality, she must be grey raged on for the "crime" of "feeling safe" to say anything to him do anything to protect her child or interfere wirh the psychopath's goals in any way.
Oh it does. My ex felt triggered because I was feeling too confident and tried to ruin my life
Grey rage I've never heard anyone describe the feeling so well.
Wow you’re cool
@MypronounIsKing Not as cool as you!
the 'gray rage' concept is fascinating
Seems to be the same as blind rage..
Most psychopaths (and sociopaths) are NOT physically violent. They damage and destroy in other ways
I think data showed that the most anti social boys, around 2 years old, showed primarily physical violence (kicking, biting, punching), and most of those things gets weeded out, because it's so on-the-nose.
Girls tend to show reputation destroying behavior. Interestingly, when asked if she's dangerous, she talk about violence and not manipulation of someone else's reputation, which she earlier admitted was her modus operandi to the point she didn't know how to behave without doing it. For example, an anti social girl, my gf's niece is a sociopath, and she told everyone that her uncle (my gf's brother) beat her. The guy was wrecked. It got serious and he was facing serious consequences. It turned out she was lying. She was 13-14. It's extremely dangerous to be around. It's like my gf's brother is unarmed, and she's a snake he can't see. It's easily overlooked and subtle if you're not careful.
They become CEOs
It's good to see a realistic interview of one. Hollywood had glamorized psychopaths too much.
4:24 “I have never been able to track down the intended victim….” I feel for the unintended victims she runs into during that hour or so
This is actually really interesting. I dared to consider, once, whether the assumption that psychopaths are necessarily evil might be false. I very quickly hypothesized that it's very likely a false assumption. Emotion-based, sympathy-based morality is actually not morality's highest form. I'm not a Kantian, but take Kant, for example. He held that the choice to conform our actions to what the law demands, because it's the law, is what defines an act as morally good--not how we feel about it or whether we want to do it or not do it. A psychopath is perfectly capable of living that way, and just choosing to do the right thing, not because he cares about how other people feel or whether they suffer harm, but because he recognizes the act as, in principle, the good to be done. Such a person would refrain from seeking his own advantage by victimizing others, not because it wouldn't FEEL right to do it, but because it wouldn't BE right to do it, and that would be enough to discipline the psychopath. I articulated this hypothesis several years ago to a Neuropsychologist, then on the faculty at Vanderbilt University, and he said that he'd never thought about the question that way before, but that, now that I presented the idea, he could think of several people whose moral profile I'd just described perfectly.
Psychopaths are very charming. I find myself almost believing everything she says. Almost.
You completely believe how media portraits psychopaths. Completely.
its not like she is lying, she is just explaining things that make sense. if you are reasonable you should believe that.
in addition to psychopathy, this person is expressing autistic traits I think
@@how.disability.justice and why do you think that?
@@how.disability.justicewtf
0:30 to 1:10 shows how she doesn't really even comprehend the concept of empathy on an abstract level.
why is she aalways looking to the right?
Cuz it's scary when she stares straight at you?
We do that during convo we do that when thinking during conversation
She's deceptive.
That's probably where the interviews is sitting
She watchin for the ops
The almost complete lack of eye contact is the most disturbing thing.
In all fairness though, we don’t even know if she’s sitting across from a person or if there’s just a camera in her face.
Taking all the emotions away from regular people they would be just as violent as a psychopath…Yeah you just turned them into a psychopath.
"I can be dangerous for a certain kind of person...through no fault of my own.".
As a person that was friends with a psychopath, hearing this made me cringe in terror...It's NEVER their fault.
This is interesting.
Life is a school that never stop educating you.
I’ve worked with a psychopath. He had no problem lying about anything. He would exaggerate something you did or said to make it seem malicious. Pretty sure he broke the window of my car.
I love how people act and react based on their responses to fear. There are so few people whom learn to rise beyond it and use it as a tool.
Most of the people interviewed by the "experts" on psychopathy were in prison so certain attributes are overemphasized in the literature. I've never harmed anyone and I certainly don't consider myself dangerous.
I explain it like this, psychopaths are outcome-oriented. What would harming someone achieve? I'm not a sadist. And, I really don't want to go to jail. Likewise, why would I steal? There are less risky ways to get money (like working at a job that I'm good at, I enjoy, that pays well, and that isn't hard). Most psychopaths glide through life following the past of least resistance. The ones who are in jail usually have other disorders, have a different cost-benefit calculation, or less impulse control. The important thing is that we generally don't feel guilt about the things we do, which makes OUR calculation different from the calculation of a normal person.
The thing is, normal people don’t just obey the law because of the legal consequences. We consider the victim on the other side of these crimes, regardless of the legal consequences. It’s why laws are created. Ideally, they exist to protect people and their humanity first and foremost. Because there are people (like psycopaths) who don’t consider how their choices can negatively impact and harm other people.
What would harming another person acheive? It would harm someone, that’s why you don’t do it. Not because you’ll get thrown in jail and not because it won’t acheive anything for you.
@@kttv9442I doubt he can understand the reality of what you're saying. When our brains are not fully functional or malfunctioning, we are that much more disconnected from reality. Us "normal" brains have a hard enough time with reality. I'm sure purely cognitively he can understand your words, but if his brain has malfunctioned such that there is no genuine feeling (or "guilt" as he says, and I find it disconcerting so many psychopaths so often use that particular word, "guilt," as a substitute for what is actually supposed to be the existence of genuine feelings function in the human brain) then he will have no way to truly understand the serious knowledge of reality you're trying to convey.
The researchers are saying psychopathy level is a spectrum. But it seems on the far end toward clinical psychopathy there's a malfunction, as in no off switch. "Normals" or those not so far on that far end of the spectrum actually can and often do make the psychopath calculation and also from time to time engage in psychopath behaviors too (which might help explain why "normals" in groups can behave even more psychopath than individual psychopaths acting alone and why "normals" constantly follow psychopaths aa if they're allowing the psychopath to do their manipulating for them and constantly choose psychopaths to "lead" them) and turn it on or off based on the circumstances, but the clinical psychopath apparently can't genuinely ever make the "normal's" calculation that genuinely accounts for the existence of other humans as humans not objects or equal entities feeling same feelings, and instead is perpetually stuck in the psychopath mode like the gear shift broke off.
Psychopaths understand the World as it really is - and act in the best interest of their chosen outcome. It's not good or evil, just focused and unconcerned with everyone else's chosen outcome. Besides which, everyone should worry more about normal people, who deliberately do bad things to each other and get pleasure from doing so.
My mom is a psychopath. She knows what's right and wrong on a logical level, but in the heat of the moment, she completely loses sight of it. When she makes the wrong call, it leaves you absolutely speechless. Sometimes, you wonder how someone could even come up with these scenarios-they seem almost stupid.
For instance, she gave my dog away to a kill shelter because she didn’t like him much and thought I couldn’t take care of him due to some financial issues, even though I never had a problem with that. I had the dog for six years before she even met him, and she did this after only seeing him three times for five minutes each. I ended up breaking her 98-inch TV just to get her to tell me which shelter so I could get my dog back.
The point is, you can't get too emotionally invested with people like this-they'll crush your soul. If you can understand that, you might be able to maintain some weird, distant respect for them. It takes her years to admit she’s wrong, and even then, I’m not sure she really believes it.
They never believe they are wrong because they despise other people.
That's describing a sociopath, not a psychopath.
A psychopath mother wouldn't give a dog that you care about, to a kill shelter - it serves no purpose.....there would be more benefit to look after it well - and by doing so, have you love them more. If you love your mother more, you do more things for her - it's transactional. I'm afraid your mum's a sociopath!
She would be a good person in a emergency---she has no fear and would be able to think and act without problems.
She doesn't have empathy so her thinking wouldn't be empathetic for the greater good!
@@Burrburrcloud greater good? define good and bad.... emotional construct
@@Burrburrcloudyou're absolutely right. I wouldn't trust her "judgment." I doubt she would be helpful in all situations
@@Burrburrcloudcorrect, in an emergency she would only worry about saving herself.
@@jacksullivan1937 They are an emotional construct, correct, because humans have emotions. Hence why you don’t want emotionless psychopaths in charge of anything.
I cut off a friend of 17 years who turned out to be a psychopath. He was never violent. He just didn't have empathy and sense of marital fidelity. And he was oddly juvenile when it comes to demeanors.
The happy-go-lucky musical backtrack to this subject though! 😅😵💫
Her dead eyes and cheesy smile is kind of a giveaway
It's easy to say when you know that she's a psychopath. But is every person who fake smiles and isn't making emotional eye contact a psychopath? People making generalizations is pretty harmful to those who don't actually have a problem.
Don’t fool yourself, there is no easy “ giveaway”.
That’s part of her personality.
@@158-i6z Your comment is accurate, I have psychopathy and I NEVER smile, even as a child, not in photos, I don't even find jokes funny.. I use to envy people who can show facial expressions and emotions, as a person I just can't fake things if it isn't real or intrinsic, so I'm stuck with this paralyzed face.
@@TheFriendlyPsychopath Where did you get the idea of being a psychopath?. You sound more like something else entirely is going on... something not at all related to psychopathy.
Giveaway is in the title of the video...
Starts out by saying she’s not at all violent nor has violent tendencies and then by the end basically admits that :
1) there’s a monster inside of her that is willing to take it to any level
2) is not in control of her actions during her fugue states
3) she has indeed stalked intended targets
4) literally cares about nothing and no one
This ladies and gentlemen is why you absolutely cannot trust a psychopath. Ever.
I just watched a separate clip of this same interview where she says that before she got therapy she never cared what people thought of her. She said that’s why high school was so easy for her. She also said that she does not feel guilt or remorse. But here, she’s saying that psychopaths feel all of these things like regular people. She is saying two opposite things.
I think that they can feel it but they tend to supress it
Thats a common theme with the interviews with her. She says one thing then goes on to say the opposite???
shes a fake
Probably in general they feel but she doesn't feel it at an intense level , so she can just brush that off
I think she has a hard time explaining the things she was “taught to do” as a kid, growing up in a hippie environment, versus the absolute range of what her response could be in any particular situation. I think it’s not helpful to say “well she says she doesn’t have empathy, then she says she has empathy!” When she’s likely trying to relay “I can only have empathy in hindsight, which I learned to do through my non-violent childhood, and through seeking treatment as an adult.” She also laughs at some of the things she does, because she sees how silly or weird her actions were compared to what society considers normal. She’s laughing at her self because that’s what she would do to someone else. She can’t trigger herself, because she doesn’t see herself as a threat, and doesn’t care.
We’re forgetting that most psychopaths are raised along side us, and can learn how to “act” in public, and can learn to reduce their frustration and anger when disciplined because they also can learn pattern recognition. E.g. If I do these things and people get mad every time, and punish me, I will be angry and frustrated, so I will no longer do that.
Disagree. It seems she smiles for a deeper reason.
It appears she is explaining a hard truth that she knows will be met with disapproval or will be hard to swallow for some... But she's going to say it anyway.
It's the same notable smile that you see when anticipation is involved.
Though it seems she anticipates those things much more rapidly and stays the course anyway.
I'd say this is straightforward and blunt, open and honest, and not manipulative. Though she has that potential and the capacity... I don't see it occuring during this conversation.
Finally. Well said.
The grey rage part actually sent shiver down my spine 😅
Grey rage: basically when the psychopath feels insignificant for no good reason
So, there is a degree of dissociation via "grey rage."
First answer "....through no fault of my own" classic psychopathic response
Thank you to this lady for sharing. It offers tremendous insight. 🙏💐
It's weird seeing someone finally explaining what my autistic self has been trying to explain about people.
I find it hard to understand psychopathic thinking and living even though I'm almost always right there with her, just slightly more aware of the surroundings.
I don't ever do anything like steal or hurt someone, not because I can't but because it seems like too much work. You have to think 15 steps a head and the worst part is the shame of being caught. I'm not heartless, but I do think that more people who are criminals are everyday people who are simply terrible and evil human beings. But they come in all forms, though it is more known that psychopaths can fall into that category... I do think that I would be more scared of a pathological liar or someone who uses anger or hate to justify their actions. This lady may be in the minority of her label, but I find it healthy to see this as she isn't low functioning which I think most killer psychopaths are, she is high functioning enough that she understands herself and can express herself in a way that neurotypicals can comprehend.
That is highly admirational.
Dude, autism and psychopathy are completely different illnesses. You have empathy, she doesn't.
@apachehelicopter7625 Still, radically different to psychopathy, even sociopathy which is also an antisocial disorder is radically different to psychopathy. And is truly a serious mistake to even compare an autistic person with a psychopathic one. Should never been done, at all. Psychopathy is literally pure evil. Autism is affected nervous system that affects comunication and socialization, psychopathy is complete lack of empathy.
I thought her lack of eye contact resembles autism. She prefers talking to the bookshelf.
The difficulty of thinking multiple steps ahead for an autistic is caused by limited cognitive empathy. But a psychopaths deficiency is affective empathy, not cognitive empathy. It would take less effort for a psychopath, if they were motivated, to plan out an immoral course of action. And it's the psychopath's limited affective empathy that makes them potentially dangerous, if they ever do go down that path.
The thing is that, like she explained, there is no particular reason most psychopaths would be generally inclined toward violence. It probably more has to do whether they grew up in violence, experienced it themselves, and had it modeled by others. Personally, as a general rule, I'd have more fear of those on the extreme end of Machiavellianism and narcissism, the other two of the Dark Triad traits.
@apachehelicopter7625 Yeah, autism is a spectrum and has lots of diversity. One thing I remember seeing once related to autism and empathy was, funnily enough, when I was researching about another condition: Williams Syndrome - the hyper-social disorder. People with williams are usually so friendly they can be easily manipulated or assaulted by ill-intended people. Apparently, Autism Spectrum Disorder and Williams Syndrome are frequently characterized as mirror conditions in the socio-cognitive domain, with ASD entailing restrictive social interests meanwhile WS exhibiting high sociability. And scientists have conducted studies that shown this parallel comes from a brain area (or a common genetic variant? I can't remember for sure) that is affected in different ways by both disorders. You can see autistic people with higher or lower empathy due to these differences.
As a highly empathetic person myself, perhaps what someone would call an “empath” I don’t think empathy=goodness. There have been times where I have been very manipulative or overbearing to others, mostly when I was younger because of my high empathy, either by accident or on purpose, to sort of force them to feel better faster, because seeing someone in pain is too much for me sometimes. I am working on it now, and I do consider myself to be a good person. This is why I think ruling out people with ASPD as bad people is incorrect and damaging. My friends little sister has ASPD and she is not empathetic, but still good, and makes good choices simply because she knows it’s right. Empathy or lack thereof does not define whether or not someone is a good person, their actions and words do.
While an inherent lack of empathy does not make a person "bad" it is a major life obstacle. Life is filled with nuance and gray areas of moral or ethical decision making.
@@GlichyyI think you misunderstood my comment- I meant anti social personality disorder, not autism. ASPD stands for anti social personality disorder. ASD stands for the outdated label of autism spectrum disorder.
@@astridliloh my god you're completely right. Some other comments in this comment section got me heated and my brain turned off. So sorry about that.
@@astridlil there are dark empaths…which are probably the most dangerous…they can feel the emotions of others but they aren’t effected in the same way…so they can manipulate in very subtle ways…empathy, you’re right…doesn’t mean a good person…that would be compassionate…and a sociopath or psychopath can learn to be compassionate…it’s just that they don’t have the same motive driving them…the morality is absent because they don’t get a sense of reward or punishment…Brain scans show that those paths in the brain are absent
i've never heard of any empath manipulating people to force them to heal faster, that's very interesting. i'd be interested if you could elaborate more on that.
The wide smiles are incongruent with the subject matter she's talking about. It's uncomfortably "off."
The Grey Rage. When someone thinks their authority transcends their morality 💀
I am very surprised at my reaction to this extremely powerful and honest video. I like this woman and would have no qualms in having her as a friend.
This woman is extremely intelligent, rational, self aware, introspective, objective, open minded, conscientious, responsible, accountable, honest, direct, reasonable and understands she is different from others and most admirably she accepts the fact and truth about how she is different and actively has been in treatment to understand AND learn how to become a better human, person, employee, friend, daughter, etc…
I am beyond grateful for this priceless education you’ve provided me with today.
I know, my gratitude and appreciation means nothing to her but it does to me. And I am perfectly good with that.😎
I do find it surprising about the friendship part. If she can't feel empathy what makes people sure she'd even be a good friend? What makes you certain she'd care at all if she made you feel shit or cancel plans on you at the last minute? If she can't connect deeply how can she even form meaningful friendships? Wouldn't they all lack depth? She's never mentioned feeling any love in any of her videos.
I Hope you find a Nice psycopath to befriend someday😂
They are very sly.....and their goal is to get your trust.
@@sharongreen21523:42 is when she gets ready to go fight Batman! 😂😂
nah this is definitely her alt 💀
Gray rage basically is when psychopaths are hit by their narcissism, with the bonus fact that they won't feel guilt or shame for actually hurting you in contrast to simple narcissists. Great.
How is it narcissism? Wouldn't it be more related to a territorial/domination instinct?
I am not a psychopath but I actually have experienced something similar to this. It feels very instinctual, like the instinct a social animal has to assert dominance over a lesser/weaker member of the group when they sense that that member is not acting in accordance with their strength and dominance capabilities. I've recognized the behavior in real life in chickens, dogs, and with humans. It's creepy to experience, because I'm philosophically very egalitarian.
ASPD and NPD may be in the same personality disorder cluster, and appear to be associated more closely than they are because of the Dark Triad concept, but having one doesn't automatically mean you have the other.
Or you’re the narcissist and the psychopath simply becomes aware that your ego is way too high
This was eye opening. It’s one thing to read about this type of condition but hearing someone actively say they don’t think about consequences and can go on autopilot is the scary honesty we need from this group.
Her point about "normal" people hurting and killing more than psychopaths is 100% a fact.
This is FASCINATING!!!
No, it isn't. Maybe if you compared raw numbers that would be true - but only because there are simply more "normal" people, and psychopaths are about 1-3% of society. But if you consider how likely a given group is to be violent/commit crimes - psychopaths are HUGELY overrepresented.
Uhhhh, you know why? There's VASTLY more "normal" (neuro-typical) people then there are psychopaths. That's just going by sheer numbers.
Found a psychopath.
I’ve got narcissistic and sociopathic tendencies, not full blown. But definitely the tendencies. I’ve learned to take my negative energy and turn them into a positive, and when it came to my competition, I buried them by putting them out of business. How? by my narcissistic charm and channeling that energy into a work ethic that no one could keep up with. I simply outperformed my competition.
She seems very likable to me. I have a friend who also has psychopathy and whom I like. He likes me too, and we're good friends, despite his lack of empathy. His limitations would make other people lonely but his lack of empathy saves him from that, and he is happy. Just different, and that's ok.
I would highly suggest you ask yourself exactly why they are your friend.
@@ChrisGossTheBoss Thanks! He's been a good friend, and at times a close friend, for most of my life. I'm pretty sure that he just likes and finds me interesting, and someone he can talk with more openly about how he sees and feels (or doesn't feel) others.
She literally talked about trying to kill a baby opossum. Rewatch the series. Also, your "friend" doesn't care about you if he really is a psychopath. You make no sense unless you too are a psychopath. No offense... That's what the other person in the comment above implied. You miss interpreted that which is concerning too🤔
@@EyesOfCalm Trying to kill a baby opossum disturbs me - but, then again, I haven't met anyone who, when you get to know them properly, hasn't disturbed me in some way or other. Friendships and other relationships don't have to be symmetric: what I feel for a friend doesn't need to be reciprocated in exactly the same way; it usually isn't. It's a matter of treating people on terms that suit both them and yourself. My friend is indeed a true friend, for whom I feel empathy and warmth towards and who, though he can't empathise with my feelings that well (if at all), is still loyal and full of goodwill towards me. He just has a few good friends like that, in my case three decades worth of friendship, and he's proved that he is reliable whenever I might need help, just as I am for him. (Slightl caveat: he's more of a high-functioning sociopath than psychopath.) More generally, most of my friends and family are neuro-divergent at least one way or the other, and you just have to treat everyone individually, sometimes having to manage the relationship and keep a certain distance or stick to certain safe/comfortable modes of interaction with each other. I've only met a few actually evil people; nearly everyone else lives up (or down) to expectations.
@@EyesOfCalm A psychopath can definitely care about another person, just not in an emphatetic way, more in a transactional/symbiotic way.
Shes a lawyer AND a psychopath?! Talk about playing to your strengths!!! Now THIS is how you commodify your talents!
Grey rage is so interesting
"my playground years" ive never heard it described that way. but grey rage is something i experience daily on the interstate.
Lol. Yes. My car has heard me say the most absurd things ever. 😂
I think that a deep work of self-awareness can balance out serious conditions, even one like this. Probably knowing the consequences of his actions in a practical sense balances his lack of empathy
*her
They will never beable to feel guilt , remorse or empathy . The best that can be done is they get more self awareness to stop old patterns. However they will never feel empathy .
We understand consequences, it's what stops us from doing many things. It's just that things that don't rely on a physical or otherwise important asset in their punishment do not cross our minds, for instance we have no moral qualms about taking someone's money, but legal concerns often prevent us from doing so.
@@theeguy9022I honestly think that every human could and many likely would commit horrendous acts if there were no consequences. I personally feel an overly emotional person is more dangerous.
It reminds me of the old argument of how someone can be morally sound if they do not believe in God.
@@LadyGaia1985because empathy makes you feel bad for hurting others. I don’t want to steal your money because it would make ME feel bad. It’s not logical or consequence based. Evolution made humans this way because it makes us play well with others. The species can support some percentage of psychopaths but if it got too high it wouldn’t be adaptive anymore. It is this emotional system (empathy) that keeps tribal humans from harming each other (within the same tribe), more so than logic or consequences. It’s a little hard for people to understand because we now live in a world full of strangers that you don’t care about. But for all of evolutionary history we lived in small tribes.
yes. The answer was and is, yes.
Her example of everyone else would be dangerous if they had no guilt, just says she has no guilt. You’re safe, as long as your death has no benefit.
@:55 This is the classic manipulative rhetoric that you will hear from a psychopath/sociopath. "I am just like you" or "We no different from you." "Sociopaths are no different from other people" etc, etc or some variation on this theme.
And so many people fall for it and end up parroting it, because they believe in the pop culture idea of a principled psychopath.
Asserting they are a good person and making zero effort to demonstrate it, or even deliberately doing bad things.
Love the idea of gray rage. (Unrelated - describes my nephew to a T, and am fairly certain he has developed into a sociopath after childhood trauma.)
She’s Definitely not your average psychopath.
And what's your average psychopath?
YES!!
But..I LOVE the glimpse inside of her mind, nonetheless ….
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Someone who is NOT so forthcoming…
@@christinemerritt974That's the complete opposite. Psychopaths are narcissistic and self-centered. They love talking about themselves.
@@SmahtFella But not honestly.
Her Joker smile, though...
She’s smiling normally you’re being dramatic
Ur just crazy
@@vehement.It’s the disconnect.
What an original comment!!
You are born writer.
@@vehement.you’ve been fooled
I am willing to be violent to “correct” someone else’s misconceptions (says the person who doesn’t follow social norms) = dangerous
"I don't think psychopaths are predisposed to violence, though it is easier for us to be violent than regular people."
Literally the textbook definition.
Some people are more violent than others, a small annoyance and they are hitting people. not everyones immediate reaction to a small annoyance is to hold up a fist.
@@terminalfrost3645Jesus is coming back. Believe He died for your sins and rose again then repent to be saved.
The majority of people that kill or engage in violence are not psychopaths, so what are you worried about?
@@shawnstephens1251because majority of the people are not psychopaths (around 2% of the population). But more than 20% of the killers have ASPD. What does it tell you?
@@irinanovak1659 majority of surgeons have ASPD... I guess you'll prefer being operated by fortune teller?
Normalising psychopathy is dangerous so yes
Breaks my heart to see a lot of the comments here.......All of ya for mental health awareness, and people seeking help. Yet, majority of ya would rather shun than understand. This comment section is exactly why a lot of people don't come out and talk about their issues. Good job everyone. GREAT job.
I like this woman alot! So good to listen to someone who is so to the point. I'm very close to a sociopath and being very empathic i find the time i spend with them very draining but i am always there and supportive as i deeply love this person. I know i will only extract the best version of them if i give my best version.
sorry but i have no choice but to be very skeptical of this
Fascinating and illuminating. Thanks for sharing this.
I think the “grey rage” she describes is a threat response to restriction of movement. When you’re playing life on God-mode, it would be satisfying to prove it to a smug NPC
I understand that they have a brain problem that inhibits them from feeling empathy. What I would like to know is how reason factors into their handicap. So for example, you may not naturally empathize with another human being, but you can reason that they have similar experiences to your own, and that if you want a certain kind of consideration from others, it would make sense to give back in kind.
Bingo! This is what Ive wondered. This woman is insanely intelligent. Wouldn't a mere rational understanding of the golden rule make sense? Maybe not.
Maybe that is exactly the affective empathy bit that is missing?
I assume that you can also on a cognitive level understand that stuff like providing comfort, kindness, basic decency is sort of transactional because you observed that social pattern over time - but it may require an extra step and more (constant) awareness?
Our affective empathy could be what keeps many of us in check most of the time because we kind of automatically imagine how others would feel in certain situations. And we don’t want that for them. Like, I can imagine scratching out my abuser’s eyes on an abstract level for a few seconds but I’d never actually physically harm them if given the chance because I don’t want anyone to suffer; it doesn’t erase my own suffering, after all. Just creates more suffering within them and myself and the world. But that’s the putting-oneself-in-other-folks’-shoes part that I suppose is missing in folks with psychopathy and NPD (?) Maybe? Don’t know though.
Yes. There are more conditions than just psychopathy that can impair someone's ability to experience empathy to varying degrees. However, "cognitive empathy" can be taught, learned, and practiced.
People who we describe as "lacking empathy" frequently are unable to have the *emotional* experience of empathy, in which witnessing another person's emotional state elicits a similar or complimentary emotional response in themselves. That doesn't mean that they are incapable of learning these cues and responding appropriately a lot of the time.
Basically, instead of getting there through the heart, they can get there through the mind. Developing cognitive empathy skills often improves these people's personal lives and interactions over time, and so they can be motivated to continue the practice.
I'm an antisocial and sadistic psychopath (think Dahmer, Kemper, Bundy type).
Managed to work as a Chef for 20+ years very successfully without injuring anyone.
I tend to save the violent urges which I enjoy for the people who are deserving like pea doughs, people who try to harm me or others physically or psychologically etc.
If you get caught you didn't do enough calculation and planning.
No therapist will touch me because the majority of their techniques simply don't work.
I'm also calculating every detail the second I walk through the door from their chosen outfit body language how they've decorated their office even down to the stationary they use and their speech, not just what they say but the tone in which they say it. I treat it like a game of chess placing pieces of information and looking for the upper hand to make the mask believable.
I'm told I'm impossible to read and blend in far too well.
I even find forensic psychologists and detectives simple to manipulate as they are so often bound by the human barrier which works in my favour.
See you out there...😬
It is quite enjoyable playing what I call “mental chess” as you also described it as chess with them as well! Well really anyone… some games are less enjoyable and easily won… some take longer and provide quite a bit of entertainment.
I recognise this in several people I've met. Thanks for the insight.
I do know what she's talking about with the rage, it is exactly happening in me as she's describing it, it's like a need to show every person if they're unaware of crossing social boundaries, it does feel really out of control and obsessional, like fulfilling my destiny. It is also very clear-headed, but it kinda tends to deconcentrate me from the social situation or my own social pleasures when it happens. And yet, I am not a psychopath, although I may have disturbed empathy, but it would mostly be caused by dissociation, and at times I do get out of this disconnection form my feelings, I no longer have some of these other problems that she's talking about on this channel too.