Put Detail in Last - Oil Painting Advice

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  • Опубликовано: 14 окт 2024
  • In this video I explain the importance of painting in fine detail second.
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  • @RobertF-
    @RobertF- 5 лет назад +21

    Painting in layers like this is great advice and a great technique for painting with efficiency. The only problem with it is that sometimes people want to draw in the small shapes and details first before they start painting, and then they are afraid to paint large masses of paint on top of their small outlines and losing them.
    A way around this is to thin the paint a little bit so that when you paint over the small outlines you can still see them through the paint. That way you can first draw all the small details and make sure they're accurate, and then block in the painting with large masses of color before painting in the small shapes and details on top with the help of the outlines underneath still visible, and not have to freehand them and worry about getting the small forms and details wrong.
    An example is painting a fabric with stripes and spots on it. You can draw the outlines of the stripes and spots in the drawing stage, thin the paint a little bit, paint the large colors and tones over the drawing of the stripes and spots with the thinned paint so you still see the outlines, then paint the stripes and spots over the large masses of paint using the outlines that are still visible underneath as a guide.

  • @mbhart
    @mbhart 3 года назад

    So sorry to hear about the fire in your commercial building. Sending good vibes and hopes for a speedy recovery your way.

  • @redangrybird7564
    @redangrybird7564 5 лет назад +5

    Thanks Mark, you are a good instructor. Good video as always.

  • @billweber1164
    @billweber1164 2 года назад

    Having watched many of your videos, I purchased your basic paints. I am so impressed with the consistency and color, that I try to reserve them for my best ideas. Thank you

  • @ollie54able
    @ollie54able 5 лет назад +1

    What may seen to be a mundane bit of information is actually very, very important. Your 1st example of the forearm and bracelet literally tells the entire story of the "Why". Excellent important information. Thanks.

  • @theSvarg
    @theSvarg 5 лет назад +4

    "The relic" by Sorolla is one of the most beautiful paintings i've ever seen.

  • @redbeardboss
    @redbeardboss 5 лет назад +22

    Can you do a video about William Bouguereau painting techniques, flesh tones, or anything about him really

    • @larrywakeman4371
      @larrywakeman4371 5 лет назад +3

      MY FAVE PAINTER ALSO! UNREAL BEAUTY and his skin tones are just certainly the BEST! Kim!!!

    • @Noonesbusiness
      @Noonesbusiness 5 лет назад +2

      Bouguereau painted in a completely different way then Mark.Bouhuereau painted in a Grisaille first then 2 partial layers overthay.

    • @OSY_PB_ATHEIST_PALKU
      @OSY_PB_ATHEIST_PALKU 5 лет назад +5

      Bouguereau's painting technique is classical (synonyms - Flemish, wet on dry, indirect painting). It is a multilayer technique and demands more time. You can check "Matt Harvey Art" RUclips channel.
      But Carder's technique is alla prima (syn - direct painting, wet on wet, au premier coup) and much easier.
      But Carder's limited palette has limitations (:-) obviously because it's called limited). Paul Foxton described it well on his RUclips video "The limits of the limited palette".
      As carder said in one of his videos- after mastering his method, you can move on to other methods,
      so I advice you to learn munsell system of color mixing; but only after mastering the Carder's.
      Paul Foxton has plenty of videos on RUclips about Munsell color mixing.

  • @michaelnovak9412
    @michaelnovak9412 5 лет назад +35

    4:17 this painting is insanely beautiful

  • @CVS19851
    @CVS19851 5 лет назад +2

    Mr. Carder, you are awesome! Thanks for giving us so much for free. I greatly appreciate your teachings and work.

  • @BenKrisfield
    @BenKrisfield 4 года назад +13

    Remember reading a Paul Cezanne quote "start with a broom, end with a needle."

    • @DrWhom
      @DrWhom 3 года назад

      Sargent said: Don't worry so much about the details.

  • @jwoolfe1445
    @jwoolfe1445 3 года назад

    aaaalmost to the finishing stage on this piece. this gave me some things to think about while looking over it and trying to decide if its details time or not yet.

  • @vernonsteinkamp1088
    @vernonsteinkamp1088 5 лет назад +1

    Great tip for us who are newer to painting.

  • @JourneysPalette71
    @JourneysPalette71 5 лет назад +1

    You are my true art teacher.
    I'm watching your video with respect
    Always amazingly good~ 👍👍👍

  • @williamlake
    @williamlake 5 лет назад

    Good video. I'd like to see you elaborate on the topic of putting in detail: Examples of when it is appropriate to put the detail in earlier. Examples of when to put details in wet/wet and again, when dry. When wet-wet, how to control the end result value/color, etc. This is the stuff that beginners wonder about.

  • @kareliask
    @kareliask 5 лет назад

    Thank you as usual for your fantastic informative advice. The examples you provide and way you describe it really help absorb why it's so necessary.

  • @johnwalker7592
    @johnwalker7592 5 лет назад +1

    As a watercolorist I learn a lot more from this guy then most people teaching watercolor shit on the internet... There are some differences.. I have to paint light to dark. Unless I use an opaque white gouache

    • @kyb3er
      @kyb3er 5 лет назад

      Have you checked out RUclips channels "Mind of Watercolor" and James Gurney.

  • @ginadavis174
    @ginadavis174 5 лет назад

    Thank you so much for continuing to give tips and help us explore the techniques of great painters that might help us in our own development.

  • @jeffhreid
    @jeffhreid 5 лет назад +1

    Good advice and lovely examples

  • @lisengel2498
    @lisengel2498 5 лет назад +1

    Whau - as always so beautifull and inspiring in every way and just wonderfull examples

  • @larrywakeman4371
    @larrywakeman4371 5 лет назад

    LOOOVE the fox painting! Kimberly

  • @lisengel2498
    @lisengel2498 5 лет назад

    And now having admired your examples once more, I personally was attracted very much to the two first examples = maybe because of the colour compositions - and that made me wonder if you could make another video with some more examples - maybe some paintings from more contemporary artists if possible?

  • @drawingandcoloringforkids3692
    @drawingandcoloringforkids3692 5 лет назад +1

    👨 I've been following you from the beginning. You've worked.I like your video . 😊‍❤️‍💋‍

  • @ahmedhumayunrasheed2434
    @ahmedhumayunrasheed2434 5 лет назад

    Nice program Mark! Thanx!

  • @thebones
    @thebones 5 лет назад

    great advice, presented with authority

  • @gregridd
    @gregridd 5 лет назад +2

    Thank you, i cant believe i haven't tried this, i feel so silly for trying to put this detail in the first time. :D

  • @tusk242
    @tusk242 9 месяцев назад

    I discovered detail last when working acrylic. and I chanced something, I could see the detail when I decided I did not want it there, the direction in paint was there , and that meant I would have to Sand it out

  • @Scot_White
    @Scot_White 5 лет назад +3

    Several years ago, I learned from you to paint exactly the color that I see in the area that I see it. Using color matching, I covered the canvas completely in one pass. While I don't see anything wrong with what you are saying here, I do find it to contradict the things I learned from you 6 or 7 years ago. Has your method evolved or did I misinterpret you the first time around?

    • @larrywakeman4371
      @larrywakeman4371 5 лет назад

      I know exactly what you mean-he won't answer you probably....

    • @OSY_PB_ATHEIST_PALKU
      @OSY_PB_ATHEIST_PALKU 5 лет назад +1

      You've just misunderstood it. Let me explain. You can check Carder's still life painting video.
      While painting say a still life - e.g. a mug, Carder said to begin from background around the outline of the mug; then gradually from bigger shapes to smallest details (say highlight) on it; and yes everything by color matching.
      He is repeating that here. Take the first painting by sergeant. He said in other words to paint the whole forearm, i.e. on left and right of the bracelet where there's only one tone, altogether; after completing that tone, you should start painting the bracelet on it.

    • @kyb3er
      @kyb3er 5 лет назад

      Right, his beginner course is as you described but maybe this would be considered a more advanced technique.

    • @satchelyork
      @satchelyork 4 года назад

      The value of an area or mass is not a small detail. A detail is a freckle or single leaf or blade of grass.

  • @tekannon7803
    @tekannon7803 4 года назад

    Dear Mr Carder, Thank you for your excellent advice and tips. Where can we see your work?

  • @karolkedzierski5824
    @karolkedzierski5824 5 лет назад

    Hello, Im a fan of your movies and like your paintings too. Its nothing important but just one note: the painting which is shown at 2:00 is not Manet's, its from Edgar Degas. Anyways, great content as always.

    • @DrawMixPaint
      @DrawMixPaint  5 лет назад +2

      You are correct!!! I wish I could edit the video! Thank you for pointing out my mistake!

  • @qr3d890
    @qr3d890 5 лет назад +1

    i realy enyoy and follow the instructions for a good bit now, im a thick painter thow and would ask if you could mabey give some tips on that if you would like to. im a bit more abstract but also at a point that i would like to do some stil life painting to freshen up my repertoir. i started realism as a sculptur and tend to think as such. usualy when i paint from life i tend to paint like i draw, and i draw like i sculpt. i thought mabey you could give some tips where i could use structure to create a more painterly work instead of having a sculptural drawing/painting.

  • @lnoir493
    @lnoir493 5 лет назад +2

    💃❤ love your videos thank you

  • @gmeliberty
    @gmeliberty 5 лет назад +1

    Thank you again!

  • @michellet1800
    @michellet1800 5 лет назад +1

    you look great in an all black shirt

  • @shirleypolo6272
    @shirleypolo6272 5 лет назад +1

    I have tried to paint detail in as I am working and have run into the problem of matching values..it had become a bad habit and created a lot of extra work..like the blending thing.

  • @AceHardy
    @AceHardy 5 лет назад

    Good deeds 🙌💯

  • @peteconroy1348
    @peteconroy1348 3 года назад

    Does anyone know of any time lapses of details coming together at the end? I must be so unimaginative because I always need a visual to fully understand the process being explained

  • @darthkek1953
    @darthkek1953 5 лет назад +1

    Does anyone know if Mark has identified the music at the start of his videos, I'd love to hear the full version.

  • @madsingh
    @madsingh 5 лет назад

    thank you

  • @tuffstuff9809
    @tuffstuff9809 5 лет назад

    I heard you're moving to LA?

  • @sictransitgloriamundi7590
    @sictransitgloriamundi7590 5 лет назад

    Ottimo!😃

  • @lasarith2
    @lasarith2 5 лет назад

    For a few seconds I thought the thumbnail was an actual photograph, then I realised what she’s wearing .

  • @barrycrowson8138
    @barrycrowson8138 5 лет назад +1

    Why would you paint the bracket before the arm,or the spots before the dress "etc etc etc " have you run out of subject matter.

    • @annabodhi38
      @annabodhi38 5 лет назад

      @BarryCrowson ~ Don't be a moron. You know exactly what he meant.

    • @TahloolaDarlin
      @TahloolaDarlin 5 лет назад +1

      I see many artists make that mistake.

  • @murderballad1154
    @murderballad1154 5 лет назад +1

    Liljefors♥

  • @tuffstuff9809
    @tuffstuff9809 5 лет назад

    California

  • @ThienVo1984
    @ThienVo1984 3 года назад

    Shhhhh ! Your colour very cool ! (Comment from iphone 6)
    Shhhhhh ! Hahahaaaahahahaaaaaa ! =]]

  • @nimkynasir7814
    @nimkynasir7814 5 лет назад

    Hi

  • @maxpitchkites
    @maxpitchkites 3 года назад

    The cherry on top goes last.

  • @tvpumpkinman6294
    @tvpumpkinman6294 4 года назад

    draw mix pain

  • @1234admir
    @1234admir 5 лет назад +1

    Every "Draw Mix Paint" video summarized:
    - * have very dim, depressing, lighting *
    - my students make this obvious mistake that a child could point out
    - look at this Sargent painting, this is John Singer Sargent
    - did I mention that its a John Singer Sargent painting?
    - * give obvious advice *
    - we have a new * insert random change * in our Geneva paints, * continue to push Geneva stuff *
    - the end

    • @ahmadalmarri6916
      @ahmadalmarri6916 5 лет назад +2

      >"give obvious advice"
      You have no idea how important this is, if you think you know it already you're either a master (you aren't) or are enjoying the Dunning-Kruger Effect
      > * have very dim, depressing, lighting *
      For display in well-lit galleries. For a badly-lit house he tells you to increase exposure, but he teaches for galleries.
      > look at this Sargent painting
      And ~50 other incredible realist painters he also refers to.
      People who don't want to learn, just like you, take nothing home

    • @stephensmith7995
      @stephensmith7995 4 года назад

      This is obvious to an experienced artist, but this is not a video for experienced artists. It's for beginners.

    • @satchelyork
      @satchelyork 4 года назад

      That's not true these are great tips that took me years to figure out on my own and even in art school never was taught as they dont teach realism any more

    • @1234admir
      @1234admir 4 года назад

      ​@@satchelyork I agree, he has great tips, and the channel has a certain quality which is a rare thing these days on youtube. There is an ounce of truth in what I said 9 months ago, but overall I did change my mind.