It was really wonderful to see pascal clarify his feelings for himself and Joan. I certainly hope that they are able to stay in touch and remain good friends.
Pascal will never need a woman in his life. He will date forever and enjoy every minute. He owns a salon, he is successful, and is surrounded by a harem of woman to choose from every day. That is the life of a male hairdresser. Women LOVE male hairdressers. It’s a very personal experience getting your hair done and being touched by a hairdresser. Pascal is a free bird.
i dont know if that is true, his heart was with the woman that he was in love with and he is still hurt by it.. i think he would if he healed from it .. maybe.
I think he would if it was right, but no way will he ever settle for less than what he wants. Pascal is "the" most sure person I've ever known of. He is completely in touch with himself, and is 100% honest. He definately did not play the game, and I don't think he could have even had he wanted to. It's just not in his makeup to operate like that. He's the real deal. One in a million.
I think Pascal was so kind in the way he said this. It's nice to see him figure his feelings out and be responsible enough not to pretend. He's a real grownup man.
I agree… but a man doesn’t have to figure feelings out. They have the spark or they don’t. I like him but he stayed for the ride, the TV longevity ride.
@@valeriesantos8178 I really like pascal. But I thought why did they not discuss this earlier before home towns whether feelings and connection exists. I think reality hit him as next step is engagement. He may not be ready for next relationship still grieving past.
I'm confused, he said very clearly that he's not in love and doesn't have that spark, but she concluded something along the lines "if your not ready your not ready " . In my opinion it's not a question of him being damaged goods or readiness, he doesn't love her period.
Joan wasn't the right pick to be the first Golden Bachelorette. She's not ready. She won't stop talking about her late husband. They are all just friends. None of them really have a romantic connection.
I disagree. I think she's an awesome person. Very classy and kind. She was married to one guy for over 30 years. Of course she misses him and life is different.
@@tpartisupporter She compared Pascal to him and no guy wanted that. How is that classy? Some fans found out who Joan's husband was. Though, no way to judge someone who's not around no more.
Too much pressure on them to "be in love". I don't blame him for his honesty. He still cares for his ex or was just hurt too badly by her. He's' not in love. Period. He is not playing her at least. Hope she moves on from all 3 and finds a new love in her life.
Every...single...episode. She was not ready. Deciding on her to be the first Golden Bachelorette was a mistake considering the many women to choose from who are actually ready. Joan is still mourning over her late husband and there's nothing wrong with that, but then don't go on a dating show to find another love if you're not ready.
Telling Pascal that the reason that she likes him is because he reminds her of her ex-husband is not the best basis for a relationship or the best thing to tell someone... I would imagine that he would want to be liked for "him" and not who he reminds her of... he just wanted to have a fun, light-hearted date... I think the "bonding" ceremony freaked him out and was a bad idea... it drove him away... whose idea was that?
Absolutely. The guys should all run until she gets therapy. Don't volunteer to be on a dating show if you are still grieving your husband. Life is short and she should move on and work through the loss or stop dating.
@@JJyo275 I don't think she needs "therapy". She is still grieving her husband. Nothing wrong w/ that. However, maybe she wasn't the best choice for the show.
That spark is the whole key ... she just didn't turn him on ,like a 30 y.o. snobby finicky drama filled fast laner...he just isn't ready to settle down in Trembling Hills... the younger ones make him feel young .I think he probably has some infidelity issues with that ex girlfriend . He probably crossed many boundary lines and made his ex feel crazy with all the constant denial...
I was thinking that too… older men w/money think they can ‘buy’ anyone while in their midlife crisis, etc. They’re nvr content… many r players. I admire their drive but I’ve learned to steer clear of them. Happiness or contentment and respect are far more important.
Joan isn't deep enough for him. I can see that. And I bet it was a huge blow hearing from her that he reminded her of her late husband. Who the heck wants that kind of pressure?
She has a blank look on her face occasionally . She likes the fun dates but at serious times she is so hesitant to go forward. She isn’t in this 100%, she thinks she is but no way .
Pascal waited until the end to tell Joan there was no spark for him. Have some class dude. You don’t wait until the last minute. What’s wrong with you? You should’ve told her when she came to visit you. Instead you strung her along. That’s just wrong.
To be fair I think he was waiting to hear that answer from Joan, she brought up John, and he doesn’t like that pressure. It’s too much, Joan is still in mourning it seems like.
He should have told her way before they went all the way to Tahiti! He knows he wasn't feeling her deeply before he left the states. He is still into his X girlfriend. I guarantee she's a younger woman.
@@lindat.9004I expect the show kept all these men around to provide content. So they probably fed Pascal a story. Once the men saw Joan letting chuck hang all over her at the bowling alley, that would have put them off. What nice decent man would want a woman that selfish and inconsiderate? I agree Pascal would date younger, so would Guy (if he can deal with his anger etc issues). Attractive older successful men can attract younger women- I really don't know why they went on the show- for personal gains no doubt, not to win the heart of an old lady.
Wow. Such judgmental, caddy women! He was sincere, honest and sensitive. You can't MAKE yourself feel in love with someone even if they're perfect on paper. There's a chemistry and destiny aspect to all of this. And all this hating on Joan on so many videos... relationships are incredibly complicated as if grief, and she has never loved another man but her husband. She doesn't NEED any of these men. She's obviously fine without them but you try going through this process with 14 potential mates, constantly being scrutinized on TV in front of thousands of strangers and everyone you know! Have some empathy and grow up!
Something happened to Pascal. He was very exited before this. Especially when they took the jet to Las Vegas I believe. I mean he French kissed her…..with passion! Out of all the men, they had the best kiss! Something happened after that. Either his EX is contacting him, remember now he is on TV, and when an EX sees this, they start texting, and feeling like they want that relationship again. Something happened and he did not say the truth about what that was. Why he suddenly changed and got cold and distant all of a sudden.
Pascal and a large amount of men there were all about the perks. Free luxury hotels, luxury rides, luxury trips. Once in a lifetime, right? Pascal was expecting another day of adventure. He panicked when cornered. Look at his salon, always surrounded by beautiful young thangs.
Stop talking about your deceased husband so much. We all miss a spouse or someone we love dearly. After awhile though you love him with all your heart, you just need to slow down. You'll always have the memories, however looking for a new spouse,and speaking of your deceased spouse can make a man leave. Look at Pascal..
Dissing her for speaking about John is likely coming from a younger person who never spent 32 years married, And widowed at 59. A smart man sees her loyalty. Integrity. Realizes her loyalty is a virtue.
@jenjem5810 try close to 45 and love him forever. I, however, am not looking for another mate. If I was, I wouldn't continue preaching about my first love, ALL THE TIME! Just my opinion, don't get all flustered.
Frenchmen and Italian men are all about nonstop passion. Joan didn’t show any passion towards any of the men. She’s very reserved. Nothing wrong with that. She says the words, but it’s passion drives the heart of the French & Italians. That ceremonial date was more like a wedding commitment ceremony. It was too odd of a date. It felt off. That date didn’t do Joan nor Pascal any favors. I’m curious if Pascal prefers younger women, or perhaps he was wanting to build his customer base. Joan is just a very reserved type woman. Lots of things seemed off with Pascal, even though he’s a very sensitive, sweet man. I keep waiting to see passion from Joan, but haven’t yet. She’s a very kind, lovely person. I really liked everyone on this season of the show. It’s not that anything was wrong with any of the people. It’s just a difference of personalities. Truly lovely seniors this season. I hope they all find a partner to love. I don’t think 3 yrs is enough time to move on to a new partner. Another 2 years is needed before Joan can truly let go of her late husband. That’s a tough thing to do. Great group of folks this season, and Joan is lovely. Best wishes to all of them.
Pascal knew how he felt before home towns. He was still hurt from a previous failed relationship, and did not feel a spark with Joan. I think he should have ended his journey before hometowns or possibly before that even. One of the other men would have more time, and it could have possibly changed the outcome. I’m sure this is a very hard process to go through, so I don’t mean to come across judgmental, but it does make me wonder if there may have been an alternative reason for waiting. Guy and Chock both appear to be amazing men. I hope Joan does find her person in the end.
Once you're signed up, it would be hard to stop the momentum. And the commitment to the show and the format. He was probably expecting her to recognise there was no spark earlier, but she's too caught up in her own frame of feeling & seeing to be sensitive enough to pick up that they're not compatible. All she wants is fun, and he's deeper.
Well Pascal was honest and scared and obviously not in love, i know rejection deters, however Joan was not rejected by her late husband John, she doesnt know what rejection with a man is.. but i do understand feeling rejected.. and feeling loss, which is what she was probably feeling loss with Pascal saying that.... and loss is much much deeper and stronger.. I mean if Pascal doesnt feel it, he doesnt feel it, he cant force himself.. I think his heart seemed at least that is how they portrayed it on the show that he is still hurting from his break up.. at least he was honest.. which is admirable.
Momentum. He was waiting for the passion. In this clip, he straight out asks her what's special to her about hiim as an individual- and she talks re her ex. All she wants is fun & adventure - Pascal wants a deeper connection.
What's this constant refrain that Joan has not dated and is pining for her late husband? In one of her interviews she said she has been on dating websites (or at least one) and has dated at least 16 men from the online site, but was not interested in any of them. Apparently they lie in their profiles. 🤭 I think Joan, and a lot of the men use their past spouse/love as a default position when they are simply not feeling it for the other. And what's with those who say Joan is not too bright. She has a computer science degree, and did coding in her early days, then became an administrator at a private school. She is kind, warm, intelligent and cares about all the men. She does speak quickly, but that is often a characteristic of very bright people. She is neither cold, nor removed. She has been showing clearly that she is most into Chock. The others will have to find some way to leave. And that's what this show is about.....😊 Hit the google button if you ever want to learn more.
If the "SPARK" is not there then it's just not there. You can tell his heart was breaking to tell her that. Maybe after this journey he has taken and his ex saw him on the show maybe they can rekindle their relationship OR maybe he'll be the next Bachelor. I don't think at the end of all this their will be an engagement for Joan but a continue relationship with Chock or Guy to see where it takes them. I read some comments about he was on the show to promote his salon but from the looks of the salon on the show he doesn't need it, he looks very successful.
Not a lot of depth in her answer. Who doesn't want fun and adventure! You don't need a man for that! She's not connecting on a soulful level. Not with him anyway. Maybe because he can't either... Period.
That's what I thought earlier, but in this snippet, he's asking her how she sees him - and all she does is talk about her ex! That's a spark killer right there! At this point, he seems deeper more interested in a real connection of love, and she seems totally self absorbed.
Whats confusing to me is the idea that he admitted he wasn't in love and doesn't feel that spark, with that said I am not clear as to why he inquired as to how she sees him in reference to the other men. Isn't that misleading ? He didn't decide that he wasn't in love with her based on her answer he wasn't in love!
Agreed. Like Gerry before here, both were bursting into tears all the time. This is grief. Neither is over their spouse,who died. GB producers, next time, choose a lead golden bachelor or golden bachelorette, who is over it a,nd who is ready for love. No more trauma bonding. Get leads and contestants who are ready to bond for the right reasons, not the wrong reasons. Now? Joan is devastated because she has another loss to process, on top of the loss. She has not finished processing.
I felt that Pascal was an amazing man and extremely honest with Joan. The bottom line on his hometown visit. Pascal daughter told Joan straight out that he wasn't going to pick her up at the end of her journey. She still has two amazing men. Joan must figure out if she is really ready to find love once again?
I honestly don't believe anyone is going to work out with her because she talks about and compares those guys to her dead husband absolutely too much. I can only imagine him trying to be intimate and she starts reminiscing on how John did it. No man wants to live in another's shadow!
Notice how she looks away from him when talking ? That's someone who is fabricating language to come across as genuine and she doesn't friggan listen or engage, no empathy
All this time she’s been saying she’s not sure she’s ready + can’t really move forward bc of her husband. All of a sudden she’s says he was a part of her past and she’s ready to move forward w/an adventurous future and wishes he was ready.
Yep, kinda predictable. The fact is, it's a rare older guy that is that attractive that will "settle" (or "feel the spark") for a woman close to his age. Because he doesn't have to. Easy for him to get younger women.
I have to vent other than my other comment. Sorry. I think it was better the way Pascal was honest with her, my heart broke because she was hurt, then what happened to me. The man I was seeing for 9 months all of a sudden called me and said he wanted to break up and I was so blindsided I said "OH the man who loves me so much, Why?" He said "I only said I loved you because I thought that's what you wanted to hear." How hurtful was that????? BUT my response was, "Why would you say I love you when I did not say it to you?" I soon found out he was seeing his SISTER-IN-LAW!!!!! It took me a very long time to get that hurtful comment out of my mind even though I did not love him but we got along while together, it's was smooth, no drama. That's why I was blindsided. Good luck to his SISTER-IN-LAW. So just my opinion that's why I think Pascal was right being honest.
I thought that earlier, but in this clip, he's asking what's the individual attraction and she makes it all about her husband! Shows she's not interested in knowing him, that's a total spark destroyer.
think like pascal for his money didnt see too interested. pascal just got out of relationship he is still in love with the ex. that trip was too much for him as if they were getting married. i felt they should have had a more fun setting. i dont think she is ready to move on either . pascalwife was 18 years younger i feel he likes young women she is too old for him according to his standards of picking women.
I can read ppl very well he came on the show for even more expose that man is rich and want a much younger women after what he been through he wnna enjoy his life money and freedom he never had intentions on marriage
@valiianus7612 True, but for the first time, as she sees him ‘letting her down easy’, she says it’s not ab her husband… that she wants to move on with adventurous fun
Joan is clearly not over the death of her husband. That’s why she feels so much guilt and we’ve seen so many tears. She is not through processing the loss of her husband. Joan is not ready to look for a new love. Now? Pascal has dumped her now she has another loss, on top of the loss she hasn’t finished processing.
I don’t think she wants any of them… unfortunately what we think is a great catch she may not she has to like them.. and she doesn’t seem overly enthused with any of the men which is OK sometimes people take a lifetime to fall in love not six weeks. It’s a TV show… Only two couples are together at 22 seasons of the bachelor and bachelorette and now the bachelorette and bachelor….
He waited after he took advantage of all the perks then made the decision that he knew all along. Lame and shame on him. As for Joan she is not quite ready either and was just looking to have fun, luxury and high lifestyles that Pascal could offer to fill her void.
I think at the advanced ages of these folks, they have all lost their loves or they wouldn't be on the show. And when the men are sent home, yes, they are probably feeling rejected just like Joan! Maybe Joan needs some more time to get over the loss of her husband before dating.
He has such a genuine gentle heart. So classy. JMO but her constantly talking about her late husband and she's not looking for someone to " replace him" tell me she is and she has not healed and isn't ready to move forward, no matter how much she says she is.
Why is the “Golden” bachelorette NOT a true physical representation of that age demographic? Her appearance has been altered to look half her true “Golden” age. Why do we as a society continue to promote this? The men aren’t held to this false standard yet Hollywood and media continue to perpetuate it. I’ve stopped watching the Bachelor completely.
You don’t say this to a man, he is like her husband!!! She just made him run away, good for him! It’s something about her she is not looking for a husband, what is she looking for??? 🥰🐾 ->🤔 Is she looking for money?💰$ 🤔 I hope not, but that’s what I can read in her eyes. Hope it’s not true! 🥰🐾
Omg am I the only one who thought he could’ve delivered this in a better way? I feel like the words his chose made it hurtful although we know what he meant. I’m surprised reading the comments putting it on her :o
Some people are so limited in their thinking. Accusing Pascal of using GB to "build his brand." That's hilarious. At his age if it isn't built by now it never will be. His "brand" is already built. He has no need of anything! He lives a life most can only dream of, and no one gave it to him. The guy is real.
Build a customer base , expand salon to more locations, promote his existing hair products passive income etc. He stuck around long enough for the homedates to make all that happen.
Joan needs someone to provide her the lifestyle she used to have with her husband John. Pascal was the closest thing to that. The other men probably live comfortably but not as materialistic and superficial as to what she is used to.
Now Pascal, we know you only wanted to do this for the fun, adventure and free advertise for your Salon lol it is okay to admit and also it is okay to come out of the closet. Your secret is safe with us!!! Joan should not have been the one they chose for this. She is not ready for another relationship and she is lacking personality for this show. I can't be the only one who thinks she brings nothing.
It was really wonderful to see pascal clarify his feelings for himself and Joan. I certainly hope that they are able to stay in touch and remain good friends.
Pascal will never need a woman in his life. He will date forever and enjoy every minute. He owns a salon, he is successful, and is surrounded by a harem of woman to choose from every day. That is the life of a male hairdresser. Women LOVE male hairdressers. It’s a very personal experience getting your hair done and being touched by a hairdresser. Pascal is a free bird.
i dont know if that is true, his heart was with the woman that he was in love with and he is still hurt by it.. i think he would if he healed from it .. maybe.
I think he would if it was right, but no way will he ever settle for less than what he wants. Pascal is "the" most sure person I've ever known of. He is completely in touch with himself, and is 100% honest. He definately did not play the game, and I don't think he could have even had he wanted to. It's just not in his makeup to operate like that. He's the real deal. One in a million.
Probably his favorite movie is 'Shampoo '. LOL
💯 if he's never settled down before now, it is not going to happen.
I love your comment! :D
I think Pascal was so kind in the way he said this. It's nice to see him figure his feelings out and be responsible enough not to pretend. He's a real grownup man.
Yes
I agree… but a man doesn’t have to figure feelings out. They have the spark or they don’t. I like him but he stayed for the ride, the TV longevity ride.
@@valeriesantos8178 I really like pascal. But I thought why did they not discuss this earlier before home towns whether feelings and connection exists. I think reality hit him as next step is engagement. He may not be ready for next relationship still grieving past.
He’s a player
@@sunshinegirl6854Exactly, he should have brought this up before or at hometowns, but producers need to fill the episode! 😓
I'm confused, he said very clearly that he's not in love and doesn't have that spark, but she concluded something along the lines "if your not ready your not ready " . In my opinion it's not a question of him being damaged goods or readiness, he doesn't love her period.
If someone doesn't have the spark, they don't! 😢❤
Joan wasn't the right pick to be the first Golden Bachelorette. She's not ready. She won't stop talking about her late husband. They are all just friends. None of them really have a romantic connection.
Exactly
She's very annoying
i agree
I disagree. I think she's an awesome person. Very classy and kind. She was married to one guy for over 30 years. Of course she misses him and life is different.
@@tpartisupporter
She compared Pascal to him and no guy wanted that. How is that classy? Some fans found out who Joan's husband was. Though, no way to judge someone who's not around no more.
Too much pressure on them to "be in love". I don't blame him for his honesty. He still cares for his ex or was just hurt too badly by her. He's' not in love. Period. He is not playing her at least. Hope she moves on from all 3 and finds a new love in her life.
He's not in love at all! He loved or still loves his ex he knows what real love and attraction feels like and it not happening with Joan
She talks about her husband too much it's a turn off😮
Every...single...episode. She was not ready. Deciding on her to be the first Golden Bachelorette was a mistake considering the many women to choose from who are actually ready. Joan is still mourning over her late husband and there's nothing wrong with that, but then don't go on a dating show to find another love if you're not ready.
Telling Pascal that the reason that she likes him is because he reminds her of her ex-husband is not the best basis for a relationship or the best thing to tell someone... I would imagine that he would want to be liked for "him" and not who he reminds her of... he just wanted to have a fun, light-hearted date... I think the "bonding" ceremony freaked him out and was a bad idea... it drove him away... whose idea was that?
I totally agree and the husband was no saint. She wasn't going to pick Pascal anyway.
Absolutely. The guys should all run until she gets therapy. Don't volunteer to be on a dating show if you are still grieving your husband. Life is short and she should move on and work through the loss or stop dating.
@@JJyo275 I don't think she needs "therapy". She is still grieving her husband. Nothing wrong w/ that. However, maybe she wasn't the best choice for the show.
I always thought Pascal was into younger women 😅
He is . That’s why he didn’t want her
@@anaksunamoon8618100% a deep dive in his previous yet more recent dating history will revel that. She never had a chance
Yes and someone with culture
@@anaksunamoon8618 How do you know?
That spark is the whole key ... she just didn't turn him on ,like a 30 y.o. snobby finicky drama filled fast laner...he just isn't ready to settle down in Trembling Hills... the younger ones make him feel young .I think he probably has some infidelity issues with that ex girlfriend . He probably crossed many boundary lines and made his ex feel crazy with all the constant denial...
I am willing to bet money that Pascal goes for younger women
I was thinking that too… older men w/money think they can ‘buy’ anyone while in their midlife crisis, etc. They’re nvr content… many r players. I admire their drive but I’ve learned to steer clear of them. Happiness or contentment and respect are far more important.
Younger men
@@trueloveingod2691 Uncalled for. Nasty. Whatever his reason he was classy and honest in his delivery.
Or men
So why did he go there the first place. 🥹
Joan isn't deep enough for him. I can see that. And I bet it was a huge blow hearing from her that he reminded her of her late husband. Who the heck wants that kind of pressure?
Agree! Joan saw him as fun and adventurous but not the deeper soulful side that he clearly possesses!
Yes!! You don’t say that to a man!
Thank you!! Some forget that quickly and people like us have to remind them.
She has a blank look on her face occasionally . She likes the fun dates but at serious times she is so hesitant to go forward. She isn’t in this 100%, she thinks she is but no way .
Pascal waited until the end to tell Joan there was no spark for him. Have some class dude. You don’t wait until the last minute. What’s wrong with you? You should’ve told her when she came to visit you. Instead you strung her along. That’s just wrong.
To be fair I think he was waiting to hear that answer from Joan, she brought up John, and he doesn’t like that pressure. It’s too much, Joan is still in mourning it seems like.
He gave it time to see if a real connection was building. She just wanted superficial things- fun & adventure, not to know or love the real man.
He should have told her way before they went all the way to Tahiti! He knows he wasn't feeling her deeply before he left the states. He is still into his X girlfriend. I guarantee she's a younger woman.
@@lindat.9004I expect the show kept all these men around to provide content. So they probably fed Pascal a story.
Once the men saw Joan letting chuck hang all over her at the bowling alley, that would have put them off. What nice decent man would want a woman that selfish and inconsiderate?
I agree Pascal would date younger, so would Guy (if he can deal with his anger etc issues). Attractive older successful men can attract younger women- I really don't know why they went on the show- for personal gains no doubt, not to win the heart of an old lady.
@elipotter369 You have your opinion and I have mine!
Wow. Such judgmental, caddy women!
He was sincere, honest and sensitive. You can't MAKE yourself feel in love with someone even if they're perfect on paper. There's a chemistry and destiny aspect to all of this. And all this hating on Joan on so many videos... relationships are incredibly complicated as if grief, and she has never loved another man but her husband. She doesn't NEED any of these men. She's obviously fine without them but you try going through this process with 14 potential mates, constantly being scrutinized on TV in front of thousands of strangers and everyone you know! Have some empathy and grow up!
"caddy" women...you mean women who carry golf clubs? 😂
Yeah some of these women sound so immature@@penelope5500
Ah, the old “it’s not you, it’s me” strategy.
Something happened to Pascal. He was very exited before this. Especially when they took the jet to Las Vegas I believe. I mean he French kissed her…..with passion! Out of all the men, they had the best kiss!
Something happened after that. Either his EX is contacting him, remember now he is on TV, and when an EX sees this, they start texting, and feeling like they want that relationship again.
Something happened and he did not say the truth about what that was. Why he suddenly changed and got cold and distant all of a sudden.
Pascal and a large amount of men there were all about the perks. Free luxury hotels, luxury rides, luxury trips. Once in a lifetime, right? Pascal was expecting another day of adventure. He panicked when cornered. Look at his salon, always surrounded by beautiful young thangs.
Pascal a good guy in telling the truth in his meaning of love. Wow adults doing serious talk on love. Soft rejection happens to all in life. Move on.
Stop talking about your
deceased husband so much. We all miss a spouse or someone we love dearly. After awhile though you love him with all your heart, you just need to slow down. You'll always have the memories, however looking for a new spouse,and speaking of your deceased spouse can make a man leave. Look at Pascal..
Dissing her for speaking about John is likely coming from a younger person who never spent 32 years married,
And widowed at 59.
A smart man sees her loyalty.
Integrity.
Realizes her loyalty is a virtue.
@jenjem5810 try close to 45 and love him forever. I, however, am not looking for another mate.
If I was, I wouldn't continue preaching about my first love, ALL THE TIME!
Just my opinion, don't get all flustered.
Enough about the dead husband.....
@@robertsole9970
YES!!! Why was she on this in the first place???
So he went this far and and just now realizes there is no spark???
Yes, but look at all of the exotic places he went to. All on ABC's dime.
There was a spark for the fun and adventures🎉
@@brianpankz9085and the ability to show off his salon
Makes sense. He needed to see if things would develop further.
That's dating. Are you supposed to know in a couple of weeks? That's insane.
I wanted to hug her in this scene and tell her it’s not her fault ❤️God closes one door and opens another greater one
Frenchmen and Italian men are all about nonstop passion. Joan didn’t show any passion towards any of the men. She’s very reserved. Nothing wrong with that. She says the words, but it’s passion drives the heart of the French & Italians. That ceremonial date was more like a wedding commitment ceremony. It was too odd of a date. It felt off. That date didn’t do Joan nor Pascal any favors. I’m curious if Pascal prefers younger women, or perhaps he was wanting to build his customer base. Joan is just a very reserved type woman. Lots of things seemed off with Pascal, even though he’s a very sensitive, sweet man. I keep waiting to see passion from Joan, but haven’t yet. She’s a very kind, lovely person. I really liked everyone on this season of the show. It’s not that anything was wrong with any of the people. It’s just a difference of personalities. Truly lovely seniors this season. I hope they all find a partner to love. I don’t think 3 yrs is enough time to move on to a new partner. Another 2 years is needed before Joan can truly let go of her late husband. That’s a tough thing to do. Great group of folks this season, and Joan is lovely. Best wishes to all of them.
Pascal knew how he felt before home towns. He was still hurt from a previous failed relationship, and did not feel a spark with Joan. I think he should have ended his journey before hometowns or possibly before that even. One of the other men would have more time, and it could have possibly changed the outcome. I’m sure this is a very hard process to go through, so I don’t mean to come across judgmental, but it does make me wonder if there may have been an alternative reason for waiting. Guy and Chock both appear to be amazing men. I hope Joan does find her person in the end.
Once you're signed up, it would be hard to stop the momentum. And the commitment to the show and the format.
He was probably expecting her to recognise there was no spark earlier, but she's too caught up in her own frame of feeling & seeing to be sensitive enough to pick up that they're not compatible.
All she wants is fun, and he's deeper.
Well Pascal was honest and scared and obviously not in love, i know rejection deters, however Joan was not rejected by her late husband John, she doesnt know what rejection with a man is.. but i do understand feeling rejected.. and feeling loss, which is what she was probably feeling loss with Pascal saying that.... and loss is much much deeper and stronger.. I mean if Pascal doesnt feel it, he doesnt feel it, he cant force himself.. I think his heart seemed at least that is how they portrayed it on the show that he is still hurting from his break up.. at least he was honest.. which is admirable.
She dated a lot of men after her husband passed away. That's no secret.
Why did Pascal let it go this far if he didn’t have the feeling for her. Yes he was honest but why was he in Tahiti?
Momentum. He was waiting for the passion. In this clip, he straight out asks her what's special to her about hiim as an individual- and she talks re her ex. All she wants is fun & adventure - Pascal wants a deeper connection.
He was probably waiting for her to chose someone else and as a result didn't have to reject her❤
What's this constant refrain that Joan has not dated and is pining for her late husband? In one of her interviews she said she has been on dating websites (or at least one) and has dated at least 16 men from the online site, but was not interested in any of them. Apparently they lie in their profiles. 🤭
I think Joan, and a lot of the men use their past spouse/love as a default position when they are simply not feeling it for the other.
And what's with those who say Joan is not too bright. She has a computer science degree, and did coding in her early days, then became an administrator at a private school.
She is kind, warm, intelligent and cares about all the men. She does speak quickly, but that is often a characteristic of very bright people. She is neither cold, nor removed.
She has been showing clearly that she is most into Chock. The others will have to find some way to leave. And that's what this show is about.....😊 Hit the google button if you ever want to learn more.
The spark takes time . U can’t go on being rushed . I don’t blame the guys
When he starts feeling the old age diseases then that spark will happen to anyone who will take good care of him.
God be with you brother.🖐🖐🙏😀🙏🖐🖐
Enough with her talking about her late husband ! Wrong choice of golden bachelorette. Shes not ready to move forward, she aint ready .
Most of us have had someone walk away.
If the "SPARK" is not there then it's just not there. You can tell his heart was breaking to tell her that. Maybe after this journey he has taken and his ex saw him on the show maybe they can rekindle their relationship OR maybe he'll be the next Bachelor. I don't think at the end of all this their will be an engagement for Joan but a continue relationship with Chock or Guy to see where it takes them. I read some comments about he was on the show to promote his salon but from the looks of the salon on the show he doesn't need it, he looks very successful.
I don't think there will be re-kindling. it was a dysfunctional relationship, he said she kept breaking up with him & getting back together.
Maybe it's the work she had done but it's hard to tell them she's happy her face dosent move much and her teeth never show
It’s not right to always compare someone to someone else
That was a total spark killer: 'what do you like about me"? "You remind me of someone else i loved & he....blah blah blah"!
Talks too much about her deceased husband- she is not ready for a relationship. Too much of a phony.
Pascal is man of glitz glamor
I think he's a friend of Dorothy ❤
@deerheart87 😄
Not a lot of depth in her answer. Who doesn't want fun and adventure! You don't need a man for that! She's not connecting on a soulful level. Not with him anyway. Maybe because he can't either... Period.
she just wants a lifestyle, it's not love. He can get that any day of the week that is what she doesn't realize! gold diggers are dime a dozen!
@@olechka2023yes your so smart! THIS
Maybe they should establish a rule that you don’t talk about your previous spouse after the second episode.
I think he was just there for the experience and to build his brand. He made more connection with the guys than with her and he was fine with that.
100%
To be honest, that’s what I thought as well. He should have known well before overnights if there was no spark.
But is that what they want to do at this age? Build their brand? Or hope to find companionship?
That's what I thought earlier, but in this snippet, he's asking her how she sees him - and all she does is talk about her ex! That's a spark killer right there!
At this point, he seems deeper more interested in a real connection of love, and she seems totally self absorbed.
Whats confusing to me is the idea that he admitted he wasn't in love and doesn't feel that spark, with that said I am not clear as to why he inquired as to how she sees him in reference to the other men. Isn't that misleading ? He didn't decide that he wasn't in love with her based on her answer he wasn't in love!
Joan is sweet but she shouldn't have been Golden Bschelorette. She brings up her late husband almost every other word...
Agreed. Like Gerry before here, both were bursting into tears all the time. This is grief. Neither is over their spouse,who died. GB producers, next time, choose a lead golden bachelor or golden bachelorette, who is over it a,nd who is ready for love.
No more trauma bonding.
Get leads and contestants who are ready to bond for the right reasons, not the wrong reasons.
Now? Joan is devastated because she has another loss to process, on top of the loss. She has not finished processing.
I hope they stay friends.
I doubt it. He's busy and they have nothing in common at any deeper level.
Sounds like she wants the high life as she said fun. If you love someone you talk about them!!!
I felt that Pascal was an amazing man and extremely honest with Joan. The bottom line on his hometown visit. Pascal daughter told Joan straight out that he wasn't going to pick her up at the end of her journey. She still has two amazing men. Joan must figure out if she is really ready to find love once again?
I honestly don't believe anyone is going to work out with her because she talks about and compares those guys to her dead husband absolutely too much. I can only imagine him trying to be intimate and she starts reminiscing on how John did it. No man wants to live in another's shadow!
Notice how she looks away from him when talking ? That's someone who is fabricating language to come across as genuine and she doesn't friggan listen or engage, no empathy
All this time she’s been saying she’s not sure she’s ready + can’t really move forward bc of her husband. All of a sudden she’s says he was a part of her past and she’s ready to move forward w/an adventurous future and wishes he was ready.
He’s not ready? SHE is not ready! He needs someone brighter and more challenging
It was obvious she picked a man who was emotionally unavailable and she reaped the consequences.
All I heard from her is " I want " , not" what do you want Pascal ?".
Pascal is such a great guy and he is so honest. “You try to protect yourself.” Pascal, whoever you choose will be so lucky!!!
Yep, kinda predictable. The fact is, it's a rare older guy that is that attractive that will "settle" (or "feel the spark") for a woman close to his age. Because he doesn't have to. Easy for him to get younger women.
I have to vent other than my other comment. Sorry. I think it was better the way Pascal was honest with her, my heart broke because she was hurt, then what happened to me. The man I was seeing for 9 months all of a sudden called me and said he wanted to break up and I was so blindsided I said "OH the man who loves me so much, Why?" He said "I only said I loved you because I thought that's what you wanted to hear." How hurtful was that????? BUT my response was, "Why would you say I love you when I did not say it to you?" I soon found out he was seeing his SISTER-IN-LAW!!!!! It took me a very long time to get that hurtful comment out of my mind even though I did not love him but we got along while together, it's was smooth, no drama. That's why I was blindsided. Good luck to his SISTER-IN-LAW. So just my opinion that's why I think Pascal was right being honest.
Joan is very external. She doesn't share if she's in love. Maybe he doesn't want just a companion.
She said early on that she didn't feel that he was where she was in feeling! 😢
I m glad he left! He having a lots of fun at work & he likes his freedom… He came to show off & get more attention…
Thruth
And to promote his salon!
I thought that earlier, but in this clip, he's asking what's the individual attraction and she makes it all about her husband! Shows she's not interested in knowing him, that's a total spark destroyer.
think like pascal for his money didnt see too interested. pascal just got out of relationship he is still in love with the ex. that trip was too much for him as if they were getting married. i felt they should have had a more fun setting. i dont think she is ready to move on either . pascalwife was 18 years younger i feel he likes young women she is too old for him according to his standards of picking women.
was his ex wife Russian?
I can read ppl very well he came on the show for even more expose that man is rich and want a much younger women after what he been through he wnna enjoy his life money and freedom he never had intentions on marriage
He is almost 70… When will he be READY… He wants to keep his options open.. She is better off with out him..
That's right... Agree 💯%
Evey conversation she brings up her husband. Ugh!
He's ready. Just not with her.
@valiianus7612 True, but for the first time, as she sees him ‘letting her down easy’, she says it’s not ab her husband… that she wants to move on with adventurous fun
Joan is clearly not over the death of her husband. That’s why she feels so much guilt and we’ve seen so many tears.
She is not through processing the loss of her husband.
Joan is not ready to look for a new love.
Now? Pascal has dumped her now she has another loss, on top of the loss she hasn’t finished processing.
If he knew this he should not have gone to Tahiti but he said that was on his bucket list he was honest at least afterward
Good for him!!
I think she's more interested in the Man from Wichita Kansas....
I think the doctor is going to retire soon I think he's a great match for her
I don’t think she wants any of them… unfortunately what we think is a great catch she may not she has to like them.. and she doesn’t seem overly enthused with any of the men which is OK sometimes people take a lifetime to fall in love not six weeks. It’s a TV show… Only two couples are together at 22 seasons of the bachelor and bachelorette and now the bachelorette and bachelor….
A good dose of Rejection, really, really sucks.
We all have been there
He didn’t hurt her feelings, just more of her victim mentality. He did her work for her
Better a broken heart than a bank account. He was not into her and he spoke like it whether people like it or not! Next…
He waited after he took advantage of all the perks then made the decision that he knew all along. Lame and shame on him.
As for Joan she is not quite ready either and was just looking to have fun, luxury and high lifestyles that Pascal could offer to fill her void.
He is a Gentleman ❤ she was going to send him home.
I think at the advanced ages of these folks, they have all lost their loves or they wouldn't be on the show. And when the men are sent home, yes, they are probably feeling rejected just like Joan! Maybe Joan needs some more time to get over the loss of her husband before dating.
I think he knew sooner and just wanted to be on longer on the show and wasted someone else’s chance.
Probably end up having affairs behind Joans back . She probably knows this, she is probably relieved in a way.
I feel like I’m seeing Marcus and Jenn all over in this scene ..
Yessss
Yessss
He has such a genuine gentle heart. So classy. JMO but her constantly talking about her late husband and she's not looking for someone to " replace him" tell me she is and she has not healed and isn't ready to move forward, no matter how much she says she is.
SHE is NOT ready. All the talk about her late husband blocks chances of a real connection with anyone.
It makes me sad! 😢
Why is the “Golden” bachelorette NOT a true physical representation of that age demographic? Her appearance has been altered to look half her true “Golden” age. Why do we as a society continue to promote this? The men aren’t held to this false standard yet Hollywood and media continue to perpetuate it. I’ve stopped watching the Bachelor completely.
I thought she definitely looks older than 60 😮
She wants to have a grand life that can take her anywhere !!???? Someone whos financially set
You don’t say this to a man, he is like her husband!!! She just made him run away, good for him! It’s something about her she is not looking for a husband, what is she looking for??? 🥰🐾
->🤔 Is she looking for money?💰$ 🤔 I hope not, but that’s what I can read in her eyes. Hope it’s not true! 🥰🐾
Pascal should be the next golden bachelor! He would be entertaining! 😄
Omg am I the only one who thought he could’ve delivered this in a better way? I feel like the words his chose made it hurtful although we know what he meant. I’m surprised reading the comments putting it on her :o
He's to extra and to much work move on Joan
Good man. Period.
She looks really beautiful here
All these pairings are for TV only. If there is no spark there us no spark
Some people are so limited in their thinking. Accusing Pascal of using GB to "build his brand." That's hilarious. At his age if it isn't built by now it never will be. His "brand" is already built. He has no need of anything! He lives a life most can only dream of, and no one gave it to him. The guy is real.
In an IG world along with more exposure to his product line exposure licensing agreements etc. He can create multigeneral wealth .
All I see is a honest individual here if is a television after all, come it is reality show
He just wanted a trip to Tahiti!
Please give me a break - she was going to dump him.
Joan has no emotion in her face looking too much at camera
He is here to promote his hair salon. 😅
Build a customer base , expand salon to more locations, promote his existing hair products passive income etc. He stuck around long enough for the homedates to make all that happen.
Joan needs someone to provide her the lifestyle she used to have with her husband John. Pascal was the closest thing to that. The other men probably live comfortably but not as materialistic and superficial as to what she is used to.
He is a player ??
Where he from? Why he has strong accent?
At least he speaks proper Grammer and English, not Ebonics
He is alright with me.
The mink shoulder thing needs to go....
Petty remark.
Now Pascal, we know you only wanted to do this for the fun, adventure and free advertise for your Salon lol it is okay to admit and also it is okay to come out of the closet. Your secret is safe with us!!! Joan should not have been the one they chose for this. She is not ready for another relationship and she is lacking personality for this show. I can't be the only one who thinks she brings nothing.
Sounds better to say he us not over the woman who left him, etc etc than tonsay he needs an entire buffet🎉
Show is so staged.
😢
Glad he is gone
Shame Joan
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