This is what actually killed the game in my opinion. We've dealt with content droughts in the past and Season 7 is definitely lackluster, but the elitists playing this game with the intent of ruining other players' experiences is what made everybody drop Breakers.
i get ki spammed by every raider a couple times get dropped then camped by raider maybe im unlucky this has been the whole game for me and can't get raider myself 😢
Correct. The elitists probably don't like hearing that, they probably DO deny being part of the reason the game is basically dead, but they have to face facts. They are a part of the reason why the game is dead.
This isn’t about playing with friends and having fun. It’s running meta and being toxic to those who grinded for at least an hour trying to get a single raider match.
Nah. They had their fun. Sometimes, being toxic is fun to certain people. Hey, if you know, they're a premade leave before the match starts and look for another raider match.🫡
@popg21-the-epic51 I like competition, so I see this as an absolute win. Playing with friends and being biased with the rest of the players when one is raider. I'm glad that is over.🫠🙂
"We don't run meta! We run special beam cannon, final explosion, charming pose, memories of battle and anything that classifies under the most effective tactics available... what's wrong with that!"
@@BaRGN-MaRT I feel like multiple stuns are needed as a survivor, at least in Soloq context. Stun them once, they evasive and can now go back to attacking you, if you stun them twice you have a greater chance of getting away.
@@PanmasterAtArms Bear in mind, you're talking to a guy who strictly flex queues & no I don't need even *one* stun. & I have no need for the likes of Energy Field, Memories of Braindead, Resistance, Immortal Champion, Time Patrollers Duty, or Galactic Patrol Ship neither. Instant Transmission is nice & I do run it to help others out, yet I still don't rely on that. One stun max on a survivor is acceptable. More than that is cringe, mainly in the context of those who aren't even newbies.
@@BaRGN-MaRT I only run Grapple/Bike/Pose/Let Me Heal You, partially due to lack of options due to bad RNG, but also because the skills I do want are the Survivor paywalls(that I'm not going to pay real money for), like King Kai(I want Bubbles) and Lemo for Cook. In my survivor experience my stun's only any good in team fights(which rarely happen in my matches, even during STM) because that stun is NOT giving me any distance if the Raider finds me.
I was in a game the other day as a lvl 60 Baby. Went up against 4 premades and a few other high levels. Killed the Lvl 4 and I was about to get my level 4 but kept getting stunned and attacked. Raged so hard 😤
@@MikeXeno365 to be honest I don't think blocking does anything its just a way for them to not to be friends with you and and still you're going to get matches with the person you blocked I try it out and that doesn't work I still got the blocked people in my match.
3:28 this premade saying they don’t run meta while double stunning you and hold u down w/ a melee super while 2 other ppl SBC and final explosion u at the same time says a lot
I have premades blocked. They know what they're doing and they don't care and they don't deserve sympathy. Just block them and the game becomes vastly more fun, even if the Q is broken, At least then your chances on whether or not you'll stand a chance in a Raider match is far more tolerable.
@@Etofen If you block anyone in a premade, it will effectively block everyone else in the premade. Since you can't queue with one of them, that stops the whole team as long as they are in a queue together. Best results is to, of course, just block all of them.
@@echoesact3713 Simply put, a "premade" is the term used to refer to players that play together as a full 7/7 team or close to it. They coordinate their skills and transpheres to be as optimal as possible and then proceed to destroy every Raider they come across. Clear signs of a team being a premade (from the Raider's perspective) are them all having near max level, running OP Transpheres like Orange Piccolo, and if they have a skin like either Baba or Puar. DO NOT QUIT if you run into a premade. Just accept your fate and play as best as you can so that at least you get credit for the match (EXP, zeni, spirit) then in the results screen, select their name in the third screen to have the option to block them.
I 100% agree that your feelings are justified. I'm very happy that you brought up people like us coming home from work and not having much time to play just to be annihilated by people that play this game all day and act like it's no big deal ruining your's and other's fun. But by far, the most annoying thing they do is nit-pick your criticisms and like you said, claim they never use meta and "play for fun".
so you're telling me i have to sit through 5 30-minute queues to get jumped by people who are literally teleporting to me and i only have a dash that takes me 20 meters forward and then they can stop me from moving with a press of a button? seems balanced honestly.
Iron, you are giving them the benefit of the doubt when they do not need it what so ever. These players have no reason at all to play like this, BY PLAYING LIKE THIS…THEY AND THE RAIDER DONT EVEN WIN ANYTHING BY KILLING THE RAIDER AS QUICK AS POSSIBLE!! Like you said, there is no rank, There is no reason to be going this hard just to win when there is nothing to win fr other then 50 tp from the dragon tier or the damn pumpkin hat. I hate to say this but we need a “raider is op” patch to humble these imbeciles because remember how Goku black was Deemed the best raider (and still is) because of how good he was against premades! These kinds of players will make newer players or diehards for this game leave and making this game die harder and EOS. This game needs to change. Badly. Us the players and the game.
No they need to just ban premades in general only have them in practice matches. They're the reason they keep nerfing survivors balancing the game around them is only hurting solo queue
@ while I can say I agree with you, it should be slightly changed to “they should ban premades in rank” but I do agree with you with also keeping it in practice matches. In the end I feel like they need to fix up the skills they given us before in 6 season and down because those are the only over powered skills people use lately honestly
@@MikeXeno365 IMO they need to remove premades from general queue and make a new queue called 'raider vs premade', where you either solo queue as a raider only or premade queue as survivor only. That or place limitations on how high of priority raiders premades can get paired with based on their party size (for instance, full party premade can only queue with 0-1 priority raiders).
"we need a “raider is op” patch to humble these imbeciles" This is a pretty dumb take. You make raiders "OP" then you are just going to push more people into Premades. It's already happened before and the only thing it hurt was the solo queue experience making it not even worth playing alone and just playing with others. It didn't even hurt Premades either since they just adjusted and kept rolling
The Reddit says they don't run Meta- but there's more than 1 Meta. The Meta Builds, then Meta Strategy. Just because you aren't running the Meta Build doesn't mean you aren't doing the Meta regardless. You're Jumping the raiders as opposed to activating the super time machine. The Strategy being "Beat he ass" is still a Meta wether you agree or not. In other games there exists Strategy's that are "do this Thing with any build to improve your chances to win the game" I'll gladly accept an L when it's Super Time machine versus getting jumped by the entire lobby. Because it's more rare to lose from STM than getting beaten by the raider. At least for me. Also- can we please stop saying "Skill issue" whenever someone isn't Good at the game? Skill issue can commonly be association to "Lack of Time spend learning the game" which not everyone wants to do or have. Iron has a point where people have only an hour a day or so to play one raider game. To put it in perspective- it's like Learning how to Draw by spending only 1 hour a day. 1 hour of your Free time that you get. But ultimately I will say there's nothing anyone can do to Stop people from doing Premades and or using Trashy Strats as Raider. If you don't do either, good for you! You have dignity and respect for the game and it's players. If you do it then ok fine but you're treating the game more like a Competition than Something fun, and only find enjoyment in winning.
The only thing I hate about this game is being in a lobby of players who just don’t know what their doing or just make stupid decisions like dragon ball hogging, not defend the stm or even trying to escape the raider.
Of course all raiders are bad against premades but the gammas are worse. It’s copium to say otherwise as of now. They’re ki blasts suck which could have been fixed with alt fire. They’re all squishy even at level 3 it feels. You are forced into non ideal situations because of Magenta. Cell max isn’t that good, honestly the great apes are better. They also have the lamest & easiest strategy in the game to win games. People are too complacent with how things have been as of late. I love this game but I’m not going to gas it up when it shouldn’t be or doesn’t deserve to be.
@ most raiders have good sniping, the only difference is that they’re mostly not beams for the gammas. So it’s harder to tell where something comes from & there’s less noise. Chances are if you can snipe someone they probably didn’t notice you anyways. I can outrun their ki blast with no trained by an angel. I can dodge their supers fairly easily. I will say they can be devastating if they’re above you. Then they shred, otherwise you can outrun them.
champ, the gammas are exceptionally bad man. Even against semi good groups they lose quite frequently more than any other Raider on release. Hence why the announced the patch to buff them
Edit: I really regret watching this in front of my parents 😭 😭 Simply put, it's lack of care for the game. Sparking Zero just got its patch that fixed most of the issues people were complaining about within a month and a half. I suspect with Breakers having the decline in popularity since Season 5 and the upcoming release of SZ, they decided to remove our original director and potentially some of the staff so they could help work on the game leaving Breakers in the dust. No map was bad last season, losing the Survivor skins on top of that makes me fear what else we'll lose next season. No Red Ribbon Army base is really disappointing when the assets are in Xenoverse same with Planet Tuffle for Baby Vegeta. My biggest gripe is the fact they could've added survivors like Pan's teacher and Korin as a survivor skin, then did reskins of Yajirobe and Bulma from that movie or even adult Dende. I don't care, something would've been showing us they gave a damn at least than "Here's the Gammas and Cell Max, thank you for 2 Years!" I wish this game the best and I'm always excited to see the newest Raiders, but that alone won't keep this game running. TL;DR: We are only going to continue to get less and less content, the items we purchased for Zeni are slowly becoming nothing but TP, gatcha is still horrible, the gameplay is still in a state of disarray, and we don't have a development team to work on this game like we once did.
Im a new player. Never queued as raider because I wouldn't know what to do in the 20 seconds I could stay alive. However in many games the enemy raider has intentionally lost or at least let us fool around for some time since he realized there were noobs on board. I like that attitude
Personally I think the issue isn't so much the players. You have a point about if somebody gets off work and gets their one raider game as a human being it may be frustrating to get curb stomped in a few minutes lose priority and all, but its equally cringe when half the "high level raiders" body camp or hold games hostage. That's why in my opinion it's more the fault of being an asymmetrical game that people take too seriously, and why I preferred the queue structure in the betas and season 1, "premades" were less of a problem because they could fight against each other when partied up and there was no forced ranked for people just looking to have fun. Obviously there were bad actors who would do cringe shit like teaming but with the current block system and the alleged report system that shouldn't be a problem these days. I don't really expect this game to change on that front though so I hope people can just remember this game is categorized as a Party Game on Twitch and remember to have fun instead of treating it like their first born is on the line anytime it gets frustrating.
while premades are extremely annoying i choose to blame dimps for giving them so much power via skills and not doing anything about the current meta that they know about except screwing over everyone by nerfing core survivor itself not the OP skills that are the reason they can easily win like this
Would it still be hard to beat premades/a group of friends? Yes. Will the meta just shift to a new set of skills if OP skills were nerfed? Yes. But at least you wouldn't be dealing with a full team where at least 5 survivors are running the same MoB + Resistance + IR + Ship build there would at least be some variety instead of everyone running the same skills...at least I hope so anyway
Breakers for me is in a weird spot where it's just not fun as a new or experienced player. As a new player you have no idea how to fight or escape so you die in 2 seconds, probably get camped or proxied or nobody revives you even if you don't. and even if you make it to the STM Phase you're probably the only one actively trying to defend it as everyone else is too scared to even try and defend. I swapped to PC from Xbox when crossplay dropped and my survivor games are basically "Did I get the Super Transphere or Level 4 Wish?" If Yes we have a chance to win, if No it's an automatic defeat. Raider is just as bad, in the lower brackets its boring as shit and feels like you're playing against Recruit bots and at the higher brackets you get cc raped to death. Im like level 80+ on PC and I just honestly stopped playing, I'm not having fun with everygame being like this and I don't have it in me to grind anymore until my lobbies change.
I hate get putting in premades where I have 0% chance. There are two types of premades the premade survivor game and premade raider where the surviors help them.
1:02 And then, there was another good reason to why I retired from this game: This game USED to be "fun" back then from season 1. But look at where this shit is now... I sometimes run into pre-made, but then I ran up against low levels (which is fine for me). But I'm glad that I am no longer coming back to this game, especially when ranked is coming in about couple days
This video is a perfect example of what is happening. Imagine if you are a new player and your first raider match something like that happens. Ngl, i play the game because of the raiders(love playing as Broly) but it takes so much time to find a match a even more to play as a raider. They need to do something to fix this problem because it's so unfair.
The game would be so much better without 7 man premades. People can play with friends, sure. But, there needs to be a line somewhere. There should be no reason for 7 people to get together, running meta and absolutely throttle raider after raider it’s bad game design if the raider itself is mostly designed around fighting uncoordinated teams with no discord communication.
@@korhol2065 Agreed. Premades in Breakers are frustrating. Premades in DBD make me want to reach through my monitor and chokehold the t-bagging flashlight clickers
This game has a number of issues but shit like this is actually the biggest one imo followed by content droughts. Queuing issues, especially Waiting about 1 hour for 1 raider game just to get dog walked within 5 minutes by the most greasy, sweatiest non-grass touching players is disgusting. It turns so many people off from playing
easy, it always comes down to human ego. Instead of self reflection or self criticism of any kind, all of these premades prefer to farm clips for views/laughs among their rat hiveminds, then spam the same "skill issue" voiceline to anything that moves. Even the WEAKEST yard sale imaginable has more value to existence than all of these premade rats combined, no lie whatsoever
My thing is that these premade guys think they're actually good as if no one else can pull the easy mode flow chart shit off, lmao. Catching them solo, they are extremely washedge
You know, I hear this a lot meanwhile I've watched people from this premade you guys hate so much play solo before and still do well. CoolMoeny for example is a very good survivor or Raider in the game even outside the group. You guys keep saying stuff like this as if this game isn't straight up designed to be a team game amongst the survivors. Saying "when by themselves" is rather redundant in a game focused on team play.
@@Dragonskull1057 When playing by themselves in a group of individuals rather than an individual group is what I meant, you're being purposely dishonest if you really think I meant a 1v1 survivor to raider situation. The game's aesthetics leaned into the idea that the matches are supposed to be amongst a random group of survivors via the whole "Getting sucked into a wormhole, solely" before every match and seeing if you can survive along other survivors who happened to be pulled in alongside you for that particular instance. By the way, solo players doing well is a point against YOU and anyone else defending premades and is one of my points. You can play the game without pulling up in a premade and still do well, no shit, that's where the skill difference of who's actually good at the game will shine. Also. I can't believe you used Coolmoeny as an example of a good player when he was banned for a little leaderboard boosting, which is ironic to the subject matter at hand (Which should've been a permaban for cheating period).
there's a lack of empathy in most gaming communities imo. I've paid attention to the way a lot of folks play games, from For Honor, Overwatch and its sequel, older games like AC Black Flags multiplayer, Halo, to more modern ones like Destiny and Destiny 2. Nearly every multiplayer game I've played has a subset of people who just want to ruin your time. For Honor is full of em. Overwatch, it's the perfectionists who are never satisfied. Here, its these guys. It's a universal multiplayer problem. Too many people just want to ruin your fun.
@@Shubdooba basically the invasion system in Dark Souls is made for that. As somecallmejohnny put it: "Some asshole going 'Hmm, how am I going to fuck up someone's day?'"
I think you could use ranked as a way to allow a casual que and bring raider que back as well. Make survivor only que (and the room with friends) ranked, as well as raider que. Then flex/solo que could be the casual mix. The biggest issue I see with that would be the total player pool might not be large enough to support that
Me getting key rushed, Memories of battle + quick sleep + Enthusiast cooldown + Special ED canon + Final Explosion + Gigantic Meteor + Agressive Playstyle + Barrier IT + Jaco Shipped, Ball Rushed, Jumped constantly, Dies as Goku Black lvl 2 starting. If I go beyond lvl 2 tell my Family I love them because a 1 guy with a Super Transphere build is gonna Kill my 1 raider game per hour. I literally Agree/get behind everything he said💀💀
12:44 bro you’re right it’s hard to play with certain people due to regional locks and I don’t know why this is even in the game. I wish it wasn’t because matchmaking will be pretty fast like I don’t like the weight for so long to get into a match and by the time you do get into a match, you won’t even know how well it will turn out like you could go down right from the start and better yet you didn’t even made it pretty far in the match so you waited for 10 minutes for nothing pretty much and for me I waited approximately right around there and I finally got into a match, let’s just hope that the creator change gameplay mechanics and break the regional lock so we can all get in a match without waiting for so long too.
Personally, I'm sick of 90%+ of gamma players I face is a key holder. I want to play to have fun running a heal build, and yet if I don't run a sweat build, the raider just holds the key the whole time. if something is not fixed with the gammas then ranked is going to be the sweatiest, most unfun this game has ever been.
I stopped playing breakers before this season. Being forced to play 6 survivor games for my 1 raider game to be against a sweaty premade? Yeah…no. Can’t be bothered. My one raider game in 5+ games I can’t even enjoy.
I tried to get my friends into the game and because they were forced to do 3 Games before they could play with friends they didn’t wanna play anymore lol
This is more of a multiplayer problem as a whole, not just this game, but I feel it’s waaaay easier to vilify your opponents in games nowadays. I feel like a lot of people have this mentality that they aren’t playing against people who are just having a good time, they think everyone is out to get them to a certain extent, so they make sure to do everything in their power to ruin the experience for the other person. I fall into this personally sometimes. Now obviously sometimes people are actually trying to ruin your fun, but that’s usually not the case.
I think a key factor that I noticed in this community especially with premade and certain players, they don't take accountability. And this is something from both sides, not just survivors but also the raiders, both need to understand and take the critics that people give. Such as the raider camping, or the gammas hogging keys, the level 2 strategy, when people see you doing this and call you out, you can't just act like the victim or say it wasn't intentional, at certain points in a game you make a decision to play in a specific way, be toxic or not, there is a part that is on the player and not just the devs. I understand some raiders have camped against premade and so have I, even with the reason we might have, we are still doing the action, it doesn't make it any better and even when one camps bodies, keys or what ever else, it's mad annoying people want to deflect and say, "It's the optimal strategy" or "It's the way the devs intented". Like guys, even if the devs intended it, you guys can play in a different way. Sure in todays age, that's difficult especially with issues on the survivor side of the game, which we need to nerf stuff the gacha, not core mechanics of the game. But there is a responsibility as a player and the way you play does influence sometimes how the survivors will act. To the survivors it's the same rule just it's based on what you run. Like guys, SBC, Final Explosion, MoB, when you guys have a core of 7 survivors togethers and we have seen what creative you can get without running the full meta. There are ways to play without abusing the meta stuff, especially Gogeta Passive or Auto Barrier Recovery with MoB, why not run MoB by itself, some risk and reward. SBC and Final Explosion are moves I wouldn't run especially of how overpowered and in terms of damage it can take against a raider and then if that raider camps you, you can't fully blame them, because you started it. Sometimes a raider wants to have fun and play as intended and based on how survivors play, this leads to survivors playing scummy, toxic or maybe just being the worst scum of the earth. Yes, the devs allowed these skills to exist and the combinations, which I hate, especially IT + EF or Jaco Ship. Again there are ways to play man. Not always running the meta. And yes I can understand some survivors play with these due to how a raider reputation is. But again if someone calls you out, don't act like that's the only way to play or the victim, you are playing like this, take accountability man don't just throw everything the devs. Now when I come to this, my personal thought is both are to blame, devs and the player but the devs are more to blame since they don't fix the issues man and to me, this started to show more after Rank in season 4. Now is rank fully to blame? no. Did it gave a bigger showing to this type of play, yes. Rank did gave an influence to more toxic and serious play. But yeah... I don't know the direction of the game currently but this balance adjustment to the gammas and other aspect of the games as they said. Will influence the direction and with rank being back, I feel that since we are going to get an 8th season. Depending on the devs and the team and the community. That just might be the end of a game, a concept that it's fun, that was ruined by unbalance and lack of empathy and even accountability.
Queuing Pre-Mades Unfair buffs/nerfs Lags/connection issues Community toxicity on what needs more attention when patching for petty wins instead of fair game quality Some people will still say there are imbalances but it really is just the fact that survivors can have pre-sets ready to counter the raider *BECAUSE* they have time to see who the Raider is *AND CAN* see who the raider is before the match begins I'ma still say make it where survivors can't see who the raider is/picks until the loading screen. See people accidentally use a dragon ball seeking built against Broly/Zamasu, see how they fair that whole match
It's frustrating to get clapped as a raider like this. But it's also frustrating to play random as survivor and be completely obliterated by a child as a raider. The main problem is that it's almost impossible to balance a game with 7 players against 1. The game is one without premades and completely different with premades. I guess there is no middle ground. Maybe limit premades to 4 or 5 players would be better before buffing or nerfing characters
Iron, you gonna need to get revenge in death note for this one. Jokes aside, devs need to open up a server and rework stuns and skills there based on feedback given by raiders and survivors. This way, they can prepare changes without affecting the main game and be more certain it'd be accepted, rather than just throwing stuff out there and making one or both sides unhappy.
While breakers isn't good itself rn the real hellhole it can be comes from other breakers players whenever it's feeders for raider priority a db hog who'll go down in seconds if he got the wish or even an omega sweat survivor/raider they make the experience miserable while premades are extremely annoying i choose to blame dimps for giving them so much power via skills and not doing anything about the meta that they know about except screwing over everyone by nerfing core survivor itself not the OP skills that are the reason they can easily win like this
Just has this happen to me and I’m taking final exams tomorrow. It felt like FRIEZA was squishy because one super did 1/10 of my health like how can I keep up with survivors??
honestly it just seems like the game has major mechanical issues especially in regards to stuns that were never resolved and if it seriously comes down to a bro code to maintain enjoyment in games, the game is doomed to fail, it's practically unenforceable. although at the same time despite the notion that raiders are bad against premades and i can see it there is also a server population issue where there is so many raiders comparatively to survivors that raiders need a hour to find a unranked match this is entirely another issue.
I never get to enjoy playing this game anymore because every Raider match I play, I'm forced to play like there's a cash cup tournament going on and hate it every single time. I seriously miss S1 days where I can just chill with my friends on both ends with 8 players max. And premades will never be my favorite thing especially if its coolmoeny and his squad, never pairing up with them ever again after S5.
And on top of that, I barely even know what the word "FUN" means anymore because this game got turned into a competitive sweaty Olympics-type game. SO MUCH has been token away from me because of what happened during later seasons.
I just had a match as Vegeta and couldn't do anything, constantly evaded people would vanish midair so had no time to determine if they were using instant rise or instant descent. Worse fucking things they could have put in the game. Double stunned and lost half of my health as Nappa cause I couldn't do anything!
this video is NOT getting monetized lol. fr i understand your rant. when players are running all stuns and meta when youve been getting railed over and over for an hour sometimes 2 or 3, you want to get a raider game where you dont immidietly die to meta. i had a zamasu game 2 days ago where 3 people had special beam cannon and killed my ass. i was on a sliver of health and they were coming at me like i owed them $200 each. the devs need to properly balance this game. ive been playing since season 2 when the barrier bike was meta (if you remember that youre goated) and the game is in its worst state yet. if it keeps going down this path we wont see the third aniversary, and that makes me sad. this is honestly a very great concept for a dragon ball game and it pains me to see it dying like this.
They should be helping players rise up instead of knocking them down, that's real power: what they're doing essentially is frying ants with a magnifying glass, which is unproductive, fun, but will eventually get boring for them and they'll be left with a hollow feeling until their next fix.
"they get anoyyed on reddit if you talk ***" yeah people like that suck at more than DB the breakers its why they require 7 its not "for fun" its "for them tho be able to win they need a 7 v 1"
This is what killed the game, in addition to the drought of content. Genuinely, do you think Coolmoeny and their group has a life outside of this game?
This is why queue is horrible cuz everyone’s blocking each other to get lobbies with lower levels. Ppl aren’t happy with this game especially it involves coast locks cuz there isn’t a whole bunch of variety of players to fight against. So ppl are forced to play against the same premade over and over again so it results them to block them and give most majority of ppl more queue times.
Premades suck but I feel like the frustration is pointed in the wrong thing. It's a team based game and getting mad at a "team" feels oxymoronic. the complaints should be towards how combining certain skills together genuinely breaks the game
Seeing this, even if you don't play it yet but somehow just stumbled upon Ironcane because you may have played...... idk, Sparking Zero or Xenoverse 2 and was like "ooh, what's this Dragon Ball Breakers game?" and then seeing this? And watching this guy stream for like he said, for 3 and a half hours, (this could be anyone btw, not just Ironcane) and you see him get excited to be the raider, and so do you because you finally get to see the persepctive of the raider! And then you watch as he gets owned within a 2-4 minute game window session, it kinda... just, you know, destroys your intent to buy the game and pick it up for yourself. Now imagine there's a couple thousand or millions watching, not just Ironcane but other streamers who stream the game, and seeing this happened to all of them because of a group of premades who "play for fun" like how Iron starts discussing at 3:50 or so. This is what kills the game, because people who get interested in it and wanna have fun end up getting paired up with folks like this who just ruin the fun for others. It'd be different if you could more frequently get raider, but like Iron said in his previous video, he spent his entire time waiting in queue and playing survivor matches, getting raider two or three times in the span of like, what, 8 hours? (I'm sorry man, don't watch your streams but I do watch your RUclips videos!) Content droughts happen because people don't throw money at it, but people don't throw money at it because of issues like the insanely overpowered premades that can occur or other bug issues and problems that arise. Hell, I've played this since the betas (idr if it was the Cell beta or the Frieza beta) and was super thrilled to be playing this, that was pre-season 1 where yes it was more favored towards the raider, but survivors were still getting wins here and there. Two years later, unless everyone is solo queuing, the raiders winning is like, non-existant anymore, especially against premade groups. I'm sure there's some out there, but damn, seeing Iron break from this stuff does make me feel a bit better as a small-time streamer myself because I'm glad I'm not the only one running into issues like this.
I wouldn't say ranked is the 'be all, end all', but it doesn't help the situation. People say "It gives us something to do", but what does it give us to do other than give everyone a reason to play sweaty for a letter and a number by your name? Maybe a lame cosmetic shirt that looks terrible on any character? Sure, they'll still play sweaty, but the entire time ranked is on, forcing everyone to play in it, no one has fun since they feel compelled to play sweaty. "It's ranked now, so I need to play this way." Dimps is messing up by not making separate modes or even cool event modes. Not these cosmetic events, I mean like randomize all skills modes, or even 'Classic' modes with limited options. Take away a 'meta' and I bet those groups would crumble.
The funniest shit about this is that those players will act like the victim and Cane has to apologize and be nice to them after they all intentionally aim to ruin raiders' games.
It's a shame to see you like this from how you use to be Mr. Positive back in the OG days like beta season days and onward ... I wish you all the best moving forward.
I'm positive when its reasonable to be so! now that the game has been out so a decent amount of time, the devs are showing what they're capable of. Now I have to tamper my expectations and make them realistic
To tell you this briefly. There is no Region lock or Coastal locking. If you knew what Real Region locking is that definition wouldn't match what's happening in Breakers.
@@The_WIll_OF_D99 "If you knew what Real Region locking is." LOL🤣, please stop acting like a clown. There is more than one definition of region locking. Here are some, It prevents you from activating the game if you are not from the said region where the game was sold, and a complete geo lock, which means you cant even play the game from an IP of a different country. If there was no Region lock then the community in breakers wouldn't be complaining about it.
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The "EVO Grand Finals for $10,000" line is always funny because, at most, for EVO, you're getting less than $1000 and a Chipotle gift card if you win.
“The real prize was the bragging rights we got along the way”
Street fighter literally was a $1mil prize though
@Kfo221 That was for Capcom Cup Finals, not EVO, if I recall correctly.
This is what actually killed the game in my opinion. We've dealt with content droughts in the past and Season 7 is definitely lackluster, but the elitists playing this game with the intent of ruining other players' experiences is what made everybody drop Breakers.
i get ki spammed by every raider a couple times get dropped then camped by raider maybe im unlucky this has been the whole game for me and can't get raider myself 😢
@@Bardock trust me you don't want raider these days. Chances are you'll get a pre-made and then you will know true pain.
That and it takes like 2 hours to get a single match just for a possibility of this happening to u
@@redking8009 its why i run meta with special beam cannon, raiders wanna play that way, so i play that way its just a cycle of being toxic.
Correct. The elitists probably don't like hearing that, they probably DO deny being part of the reason the game is basically dead, but they have to face facts.
They are a part of the reason why the game is dead.
This isn’t about playing with friends and having fun. It’s running meta and being toxic to those who grinded for at least an hour trying to get a single raider match.
Nah. They had their fun. Sometimes, being toxic is fun to certain people. Hey, if you know, they're a premade leave before the match starts and look for another raider match.🫡
It was about playing with friends once upon a time but each season and update forgets that and has the game be more competitive
@@mlpkillers6293 Leave it to an autistic brony to say some out of touch dumb shit like this
Do it too many times and you get a matchmaking restriction don't you?
@popg21-the-epic51 I like competition, so I see this as an absolute win. Playing with friends and being biased with the rest of the players when one is raider. I'm glad that is over.🫠🙂
Didn’t expect to start off with a sermon lmao.
We got Iron singing Halo before GTA6 😂
"We don't run meta! We run special beam cannon, final explosion, charming pose, memories of battle and anything that classifies under the most effective tactics available...
what's wrong with that!"
pretty much, & not just charming pose but multiple stuns, instant rise ship, afterimage death ball, energy field w/ anything, & fire wall spam
@@BaRGN-MaRT I feel like multiple stuns are needed as a survivor, at least in Soloq context. Stun them once, they evasive and can now go back to attacking you, if you stun them twice you have a greater chance of getting away.
@@PanmasterAtArms Bear in mind, you're talking to a guy who strictly flex queues & no I don't need even *one* stun.
& I have no need for the likes of Energy Field, Memories of Braindead, Resistance, Immortal Champion, Time Patrollers Duty, or Galactic Patrol Ship neither. Instant Transmission is nice & I do run it to help others out, yet I still don't rely on that.
One stun max on a survivor is acceptable. More than that is cringe, mainly in the context of those who aren't even newbies.
@@BaRGN-MaRT I only run Grapple/Bike/Pose/Let Me Heal You, partially due to lack of options due to bad RNG, but also because the skills I do want are the Survivor paywalls(that I'm not going to pay real money for), like King Kai(I want Bubbles) and Lemo for Cook.
In my survivor experience my stun's only any good in team fights(which rarely happen in my matches, even during STM) because that stun is NOT giving me any distance if the Raider finds me.
Yeah agreed it’s ridiculous
I was in a game the other day as a lvl 60 Baby. Went up against 4 premades and a few other high levels. Killed the Lvl 4 and I was about to get my level 4 but kept getting stunned and attacked. Raged so hard 😤
(Goku) Sounds like you need more training 😂
probably 😢
@emperormilk_ aww I'm sorry I feel bad now its not your fault the game just nerf him that all it was in the updates
And than they'll say you're ruining the game by blocking them
@@MikeXeno365 to be honest I don't think blocking does anything its just a way for them to not to be friends with you and and still you're going to get matches with the person you blocked I try it out and that doesn't work I still got the blocked people in my match.
3:28 this premade saying they don’t run meta while double stunning you and hold u down w/ a melee super while 2 other ppl SBC and final explosion u at the same time says a lot
I have premades blocked. They know what they're doing and they don't care and they don't deserve sympathy. Just block them and the game becomes vastly more fun, even if the Q is broken, At least then your chances on whether or not you'll stand a chance in a Raider match is far more tolerable.
Don't have time to sit around all day. Would rather just say "fuck the raider" role or only do Goku Black level 2 Strat.
How do you block pre made?
@@Etofen If you block anyone in a premade, it will effectively block everyone else in the premade. Since you can't queue with one of them, that stops the whole team as long as they are in a queue together. Best results is to, of course, just block all of them.
What is a premade im new to the game and don't know what it is
@@echoesact3713 Simply put, a "premade" is the term used to refer to players that play together as a full 7/7 team or close to it. They coordinate their skills and transpheres to be as optimal as possible and then proceed to destroy every Raider they come across. Clear signs of a team being a premade (from the Raider's perspective) are them all having near max level, running OP Transpheres like Orange Piccolo, and if they have a skin like either Baba or Puar.
DO NOT QUIT if you run into a premade. Just accept your fate and play as best as you can so that at least you get credit for the match (EXP, zeni, spirit) then in the results screen, select their name in the third screen to have the option to block them.
I 100% agree that your feelings are justified. I'm very happy that you brought up people like us coming home from work and not having much time to play just to be annihilated by people that play this game all day and act like it's no big deal ruining your's and other's fun.
But by far, the most annoying thing they do is nit-pick your criticisms and like you said, claim they never use meta and "play for fun".
Agreed
Severe lack of empathy for not just others but themselves how tf do yall play the same all the time like shit
so you're telling me i have to sit through 5 30-minute queues to get jumped by people who are literally teleporting to me and i only have a dash that takes me 20 meters forward and then they can stop me from moving with a press of a button? seems balanced honestly.
Iron, you are giving them the benefit of the doubt when they do not need it what so ever. These players have no reason at all to play like this, BY PLAYING LIKE THIS…THEY AND THE RAIDER DONT EVEN WIN ANYTHING BY KILLING THE RAIDER AS QUICK AS POSSIBLE!! Like you said, there is no rank, There is no reason to be going this hard just to win when there is nothing to win fr other then 50 tp from the dragon tier or the damn pumpkin hat. I hate to say this but we need a “raider is op” patch to humble these imbeciles because remember how Goku black was Deemed the best raider (and still is) because of how good he was against premades! These kinds of players will make newer players or diehards for this game leave and making this game die harder and EOS. This game needs to change. Badly. Us the players and the game.
No they need to just ban premades in general only have them in practice matches. They're the reason they keep nerfing survivors balancing the game around them is only hurting solo queue
@ while I can say I agree with you, it should be slightly changed to “they should ban premades in rank” but I do agree with you with also keeping it in practice matches. In the end I feel like they need to fix up the skills they given us before in 6 season and down because those are the only over powered skills people use lately honestly
@@MikeXeno365 IMO they need to remove premades from general queue and make a new queue called 'raider vs premade', where you either solo queue as a raider only or premade queue as survivor only. That or place limitations on how high of priority raiders premades can get paired with based on their party size (for instance, full party premade can only queue with 0-1 priority raiders).
"we need a “raider is op” patch to humble these imbeciles" This is a pretty dumb take. You make raiders "OP" then you are just going to push more people into Premades. It's already happened before and the only thing it hurt was the solo queue experience making it not even worth playing alone and just playing with others. It didn't even hurt Premades either since they just adjusted and kept rolling
@@Dragonskull1057yeah playing solo queue rn is rlly painful
Like LTG said "you serve no purpose"
The Reddit says they don't run Meta- but there's more than 1 Meta.
The Meta Builds, then Meta Strategy.
Just because you aren't running the Meta Build doesn't mean you aren't doing the Meta regardless. You're Jumping the raiders as opposed to activating the super time machine. The Strategy being "Beat he ass" is still a Meta wether you agree or not. In other games there exists Strategy's that are "do this Thing with any build to improve your chances to win the game"
I'll gladly accept an L when it's Super Time machine versus getting jumped by the entire lobby. Because it's more rare to lose from STM than getting beaten by the raider. At least for me.
Also- can we please stop saying "Skill issue" whenever someone isn't Good at the game?
Skill issue can commonly be association to "Lack of Time spend learning the game" which not everyone wants to do or have.
Iron has a point where people have only an hour a day or so to play one raider game.
To put it in perspective- it's like Learning how to Draw by spending only 1 hour a day. 1 hour of your Free time that you get.
But ultimately I will say there's nothing anyone can do to Stop people from doing Premades and or using Trashy Strats as Raider.
If you don't do either, good for you! You have dignity and respect for the game and it's players.
If you do it then ok fine but you're treating the game more like a Competition than Something fun, and only find enjoyment in winning.
Groups like this are the reason why we can’t fun playing raider
EXACTLY
The only thing I hate about this game is being in a lobby of players who just don’t know what their doing or just make stupid decisions like dragon ball hogging, not defend the stm or even trying to escape the raider.
Yes 😢 at this point this is most my games.
Bro got destroyed in less than 3 minutes that was CRUEL
Not even 5 seconds in and we got a prayer session going. (Great video incoming)
I don't want to hear anymore about how the Gamma's and Magenta suck. All damn raiders are trash against premades unless you cheese them as Goku Black.
Yep, Gammas (lvl 3) are good vs an standard group of people.
Of course all raiders are bad against premades but the gammas are worse. It’s copium to say otherwise as of now.
They’re ki blasts suck which could have been fixed with alt fire. They’re all squishy even at level 3 it feels. You are forced into non ideal situations because of Magenta. Cell max isn’t that good, honestly the great apes are better. They also have the lamest & easiest strategy in the game to win games.
People are too complacent with how things have been as of late. I love this game but I’m not going to gas it up when it shouldn’t be or doesn’t deserve to be.
@@agentclank8183 Gammas have some of the best sniping I have ever seen. They will be no where near me and suddenly l get hit without warning,
@ most raiders have good sniping, the only difference is that they’re mostly not beams for the gammas. So it’s harder to tell where something comes from & there’s less noise.
Chances are if you can snipe someone they probably didn’t notice you anyways. I can outrun their ki blast with no trained by an angel. I can dodge their supers fairly easily. I will say they can be devastating if they’re above you. Then they shred, otherwise you can outrun them.
champ, the gammas are exceptionally bad man. Even against semi good groups they lose quite frequently more than any other Raider on release. Hence why the announced the patch to buff them
Edit: I really regret watching this in front of my parents 😭 😭
Simply put, it's lack of care for the game.
Sparking Zero just got its patch that fixed most of the issues people were complaining about within a month and a half.
I suspect with Breakers having the decline in popularity since Season 5 and the upcoming release of SZ, they decided to remove our original director and potentially some of the staff so they could help work on the game leaving Breakers in the dust. No map was bad last season, losing the Survivor skins on top of that makes me fear what else we'll lose next season.
No Red Ribbon Army base is really disappointing when the assets are in Xenoverse same with Planet Tuffle for Baby Vegeta. My biggest gripe is the fact they could've added survivors like Pan's teacher and Korin as a survivor skin, then did reskins of Yajirobe and Bulma from that movie or even adult Dende. I don't care, something would've been showing us they gave a damn at least than "Here's the Gammas and Cell Max, thank you for 2 Years!"
I wish this game the best and I'm always excited to see the newest Raiders, but that alone won't keep this game running.
TL;DR: We are only going to continue to get less and less content, the items we purchased for Zeni are slowly becoming nothing but TP, gatcha is still horrible, the gameplay is still in a state of disarray, and we don't have a development team to work on this game like we once did.
Im a new player. Never queued as raider because I wouldn't know what to do in the 20 seconds I could stay alive. However in many games the enemy raider has intentionally lost or at least let us fool around for some time since he realized there were noobs on board. I like that attitude
Yep I’ve seen that
Personally I think the issue isn't so much the players.
You have a point about if somebody gets off work and gets their one raider game as a human being it may be frustrating to get curb stomped in a few minutes lose priority and all, but its equally cringe when half the "high level raiders" body camp or hold games hostage. That's why in my opinion it's more the fault of being an asymmetrical game that people take too seriously, and why I preferred the queue structure in the betas and season 1, "premades" were less of a problem because they could fight against each other when partied up and there was no forced ranked for people just looking to have fun. Obviously there were bad actors who would do cringe shit like teaming but with the current block system and the alleged report system that shouldn't be a problem these days.
I don't really expect this game to change on that front though so I hope people can just remember this game is categorized as a Party Game on Twitch and remember to have fun instead of treating it like their first born is on the line anytime it gets frustrating.
I can't have fun when I get curb stomped and feel powerless.
Body camping doesn't do anything anymore. You're getting your ass handed to you by the other 6 players
Idk if I mentioned it here, but those stomps would 100% feel less bad if we had raider queue or some means of getting another Raider game quickly
@@ironcane 100000000000000%
Did the annoying raider play came to prominence before or after premades went crazy?
while premades are extremely annoying i choose to blame dimps for giving them so much power via skills and not doing anything about the current meta that they know about except screwing over everyone by nerfing core survivor itself not the OP skills that are the reason they can easily win like this
Would it still be hard to beat premades/a group of friends? Yes. Will the meta just shift to a new set of skills if OP skills were nerfed? Yes. But at least you wouldn't be dealing with a full team where at least 5 survivors are running the same MoB + Resistance + IR + Ship build there would at least be some variety instead of everyone running the same skills...at least I hope so anyway
Breakers for me is in a weird spot where it's just not fun as a new or experienced player.
As a new player you have no idea how to fight or escape so you die in 2 seconds, probably get camped or proxied or nobody revives you even if you don't. and even if you make it to the STM Phase you're probably the only one actively trying to defend it as everyone else is too scared to even try and defend.
I swapped to PC from Xbox when crossplay dropped and my survivor games are basically "Did I get the Super Transphere or Level 4 Wish?" If Yes we have a chance to win, if No it's an automatic defeat.
Raider is just as bad, in the lower brackets its boring as shit and feels like you're playing against Recruit bots and at the higher brackets you get cc raped to death.
Im like level 80+ on PC and I just honestly stopped playing, I'm not having fun with everygame being like this and I don't have it in me to grind anymore until my lobbies change.
0:18 I agree with ya, this raider is trash, their durability is like comparing Glass to Rocks
I hate get putting in premades where I have 0% chance. There are two types of premades the premade survivor game and premade raider where the surviors help them.
30 seconds jumping is crazy ☠☠
I had to drop everything when u said this at 11:20
Also, gammas you need to rush civs asap. use energy scope and look for civs. only look for keys after level 2.
1:55 When sweaty premades awaken the inner Mutahar in everybody.
1:02 And then, there was another good reason to why I retired from this game: This game USED to be "fun" back then from season 1. But look at where this shit is now... I sometimes run into pre-made, but then I ran up against low levels (which is fine for me). But I'm glad that I am no longer coming back to this game, especially when ranked is coming in about couple days
This video is a perfect example of what is happening. Imagine if you are a new player and your first raider match something like that happens. Ngl, i play the game because of the raiders(love playing as Broly) but it takes so much time to find a match a even more to play as a raider. They need to do something to fix this problem because it's so unfair.
Ginyu force during this meta:Man this is easy goodbye reccome and guldo
Yeah ginyu force is still cracked 😂
the sanity this man goes through to even put up with this game nowadays is wild
The game would be so much better without 7 man premades. People can play with friends, sure. But, there needs to be a line somewhere. There should be no reason for 7 people to get together, running meta and absolutely throttle raider after raider it’s bad game design if the raider itself is mostly designed around fighting uncoordinated teams with no discord communication.
Even premades in DbD aren't stinking like these ones.
It feels like the devs never tested the Gammas before the first showcase.
No DBD was worse, at least you can do work as a raider vs getting stunlocked as a killer to the point where light born is a requirement
@@korhol2065 Agreed. Premades in Breakers are frustrating. Premades in DBD make me want to reach through my monitor and chokehold the t-bagging flashlight clickers
@@korhol2065skill issue you can absolutely fight back as killer
Does ironcane even see a dime from videos where he gets angry? Like holy demonitizaion.
This game has a number of issues but shit like this is actually the biggest one imo followed by content droughts. Queuing issues, especially Waiting about 1 hour for 1 raider game just to get dog walked within 5 minutes by the most greasy, sweatiest non-grass touching players is disgusting. It turns so many people off from playing
Iron Cane my new fav Catholic RUclipsr
Bro got his ass wiped in the first minutes of the game jesus christ
How do premades NOT realize THEY killed the community??
easy, it always comes down to human ego. Instead of self reflection or self criticism of any kind, all of these premades prefer to farm clips for views/laughs among their rat hiveminds, then spam the same "skill issue" voiceline to anything that moves. Even the WEAKEST yard sale imaginable has more value to existence than all of these premade rats combined, no lie whatsoever
Region lock did it not premades 😅
My thing is that these premade guys think they're actually good as if no one else can pull the easy mode flow chart shit off, lmao. Catching them solo, they are extremely washedge
So true
eh, I think that's a little harsh, anyone on their own would struggle
You know, I hear this a lot meanwhile I've watched people from this premade you guys hate so much play solo before and still do well. CoolMoeny for example is a very good survivor or Raider in the game even outside the group. You guys keep saying stuff like this as if this game isn't straight up designed to be a team game amongst the survivors. Saying "when by themselves" is rather redundant in a game focused on team play.
the reason why solo they wouldnt do so well is because people like you are on the teams that have 0 idea what they are doing.
@@Dragonskull1057 When playing by themselves in a group of individuals rather than an individual group is what I meant, you're being purposely dishonest if you really think I meant a 1v1 survivor to raider situation. The game's aesthetics leaned into the idea that the matches are supposed to be amongst a random group of survivors via the whole "Getting sucked into a wormhole, solely" before every match and seeing if you can survive along other survivors who happened to be pulled in alongside you for that particular instance. By the way, solo players doing well is a point against YOU and anyone else defending premades and is one of my points. You can play the game without pulling up in a premade and still do well, no shit, that's where the skill difference of who's actually good at the game will shine. Also. I can't believe you used Coolmoeny as an example of a good player when he was banned for a little leaderboard boosting, which is ironic to the subject matter at hand (Which should've been a permaban for cheating period).
They need to add another way of getting raider priority. Also a premade shouldn't spend priority.
Yes, it does. Also, i play single, so I would like to agree... unfortunately, just leave a match, then look for another one before it started.
They should Make a System if you die to fast as Raider You keep your Priotiry
there's a lack of empathy in most gaming communities imo. I've paid attention to the way a lot of folks play games, from For Honor, Overwatch and its sequel, older games like AC Black Flags multiplayer, Halo, to more modern ones like Destiny and Destiny 2. Nearly every multiplayer game I've played has a subset of people who just want to ruin your time. For Honor is full of em. Overwatch, it's the perfectionists who are never satisfied. Here, its these guys. It's a universal multiplayer problem. Too many people just want to ruin your fun.
@@Shubdooba basically the invasion system in Dark Souls is made for that. As somecallmejohnny put it: "Some asshole going 'Hmm, how am I going to fuck up someone's day?'"
@@Frieza1500-r3t…….you just reminded me the horror of elden ring
@@jamimuhammad3699 I never got invaded by a human on Elden Ring. Just NPC's at unexpected times that basically trapped me until I beat them.
I think you could use ranked as a way to allow a casual que and bring raider que back as well.
Make survivor only que (and the room with friends) ranked, as well as raider que.
Then flex/solo que could be the casual mix.
The biggest issue I see with that would be the total player pool might not be large enough to support that
Me getting key rushed, Memories of battle + quick sleep + Enthusiast cooldown + Special ED canon + Final Explosion + Gigantic Meteor + Agressive Playstyle + Barrier IT + Jaco Shipped, Ball Rushed, Jumped constantly, Dies as Goku Black lvl 2 starting. If I go beyond lvl 2 tell my Family I love them because a 1 guy with a Super Transphere build is gonna Kill my 1 raider game per hour.
I literally Agree/get behind everything he said💀💀
Don't forget a bad civ spawn💀
The only parts I disagree with are the parts where he slightly softens it, these people deserve NOTHING but hatred.
12:44 bro you’re right it’s hard to play with certain people due to regional locks and I don’t know why this is even in the game. I wish it wasn’t because matchmaking will be pretty fast like I don’t like the weight for so long to get into a match and by the time you do get into a match, you won’t even know how well it will turn out like you could go down right from the start and better yet you didn’t even made it pretty far in the match so you waited for 10 minutes for nothing pretty much and for me I waited approximately right around there and I finally got into a match, let’s just hope that the creator change gameplay mechanics and break the regional lock so we can all get in a match without waiting for so long too.
Personally, I'm sick of 90%+ of gamma players I face is a key holder. I want to play to have fun running a heal build, and yet if I don't run a sweat build, the raider just holds the key the whole time. if something is not fixed with the gammas then ranked is going to be the sweatiest, most unfun this game has ever been.
5:55 iron chill you almost killed me here!
Damn how do you get along with these people outside of the game? They seem like the worst kind of people
I stopped playing breakers before this season. Being forced to play 6 survivor games for my 1 raider game to be against a sweaty premade? Yeah…no. Can’t be bothered. My one raider game in 5+ games I can’t even enjoy.
This right here is exactly why I stopped playing (along with the usual no content and lack of passion from the devs). Keep spittin' your facts.
3:24 “What: it’s only a- OH MY GOODNESS! *DIMPS!!!”*
At the end of the day hell in breakers isn't breakers itself while it is pretty bad hell is other breakers players
I tried to get my friends into the game and because they were forced to do 3 Games before they could play with friends they didn’t wanna play anymore lol
This is more of a multiplayer problem as a whole, not just this game, but I feel it’s waaaay easier to vilify your opponents in games nowadays. I feel like a lot of people have this mentality that they aren’t playing against people who are just having a good time, they think everyone is out to get them to a certain extent, so they make sure to do everything in their power to ruin the experience for the other person. I fall into this personally sometimes. Now obviously sometimes people are actually trying to ruin your fun, but that’s usually not the case.
I think a key factor that I noticed in this community especially with premade and certain players, they don't take accountability. And this is something from both sides, not just survivors but also the raiders, both need to understand and take the critics that people give. Such as the raider camping, or the gammas hogging keys, the level 2 strategy, when people see you doing this and call you out, you can't just act like the victim or say it wasn't intentional, at certain points in a game you make a decision to play in a specific way, be toxic or not, there is a part that is on the player and not just the devs. I understand some raiders have camped against premade and so have I, even with the reason we might have, we are still doing the action, it doesn't make it any better and even when one camps bodies, keys or what ever else, it's mad annoying people want to deflect and say, "It's the optimal strategy" or "It's the way the devs intented". Like guys, even if the devs intended it, you guys can play in a different way. Sure in todays age, that's difficult especially with issues on the survivor side of the game, which we need to nerf stuff the gacha, not core mechanics of the game. But there is a responsibility as a player and the way you play does influence sometimes how the survivors will act.
To the survivors it's the same rule just it's based on what you run. Like guys, SBC, Final Explosion, MoB, when you guys have a core of 7 survivors togethers and we have seen what creative you can get without running the full meta. There are ways to play without abusing the meta stuff, especially Gogeta Passive or Auto Barrier Recovery with MoB, why not run MoB by itself, some risk and reward. SBC and Final Explosion are moves I wouldn't run especially of how overpowered and in terms of damage it can take against a raider and then if that raider camps you, you can't fully blame them, because you started it. Sometimes a raider wants to have fun and play as intended and based on how survivors play, this leads to survivors playing scummy, toxic or maybe just being the worst scum of the earth. Yes, the devs allowed these skills to exist and the combinations, which I hate, especially IT + EF or Jaco Ship. Again there are ways to play man. Not always running the meta. And yes I can understand some survivors play with these due to how a raider reputation is. But again if someone calls you out, don't act like that's the only way to play or the victim, you are playing like this, take accountability man don't just throw everything the devs.
Now when I come to this, my personal thought is both are to blame, devs and the player but the devs are more to blame since they don't fix the issues man and to me, this started to show more after Rank in season 4. Now is rank fully to blame? no. Did it gave a bigger showing to this type of play, yes. Rank did gave an influence to more toxic and serious play. But yeah... I don't know the direction of the game currently but this balance adjustment to the gammas and other aspect of the games as they said. Will influence the direction and with rank being back, I feel that since we are going to get an 8th season. Depending on the devs and the team and the community. That just might be the end of a game, a concept that it's fun, that was ruined by unbalance and lack of empathy and even accountability.
Queuing
Pre-Mades
Unfair buffs/nerfs
Lags/connection issues
Community toxicity on what needs more attention when patching for petty wins instead of fair game quality
Some people will still say there are imbalances but it really is just the fact that survivors can have pre-sets ready to counter the raider *BECAUSE* they have time to see who the Raider is *AND CAN* see who the raider is before the match begins
I'ma still say make it where survivors can't see who the raider is/picks until the loading screen. See people accidentally use a dragon ball seeking built against Broly/Zamasu, see how they fair that whole match
This problem predates this game, its always been a problem, even in dbd.
Bro the Catholic prayer at the beginning has me rolling
It's frustrating to get clapped as a raider like this. But it's also frustrating to play random as survivor and be completely obliterated by a child as a raider. The main problem is that it's almost impossible to balance a game with 7 players against 1. The game is one without premades and completely different with premades. I guess there is no middle ground. Maybe limit premades to 4 or 5 players would be better before buffing or nerfing characters
Iron, you gonna need to get revenge in death note for this one.
Jokes aside, devs need to open up a server and rework stuns and skills there based on feedback given by raiders and survivors. This way, they can prepare changes without affecting the main game and be more certain it'd be accepted, rather than just throwing stuff out there and making one or both sides unhappy.
While breakers isn't good itself rn the real hellhole it can be comes from other breakers players whenever it's feeders for raider priority a db hog who'll go down in seconds if he got the wish or even an omega sweat survivor/raider they make the experience miserable while premades are extremely annoying i choose to blame dimps for giving them so much power via skills and not doing anything about the meta that they know about except screwing over everyone by nerfing core survivor itself not the OP skills that are the reason they can easily win like this
Just has this happen to me and I’m taking final exams tomorrow. It felt like FRIEZA was squishy because one super did 1/10 of my health like how can I keep up with survivors??
It’s the energy of spending 40 minutes to get into a match with people dead set on finishing the game in under 5 minutes.
honestly it just seems like the game has major mechanical issues especially in regards to stuns that were never resolved and if it seriously comes down to a bro code to maintain enjoyment in games, the game is doomed to fail, it's practically unenforceable. although at the same time despite the notion that raiders are bad against premades and i can see it there is also a server population issue where there is so many raiders comparatively to survivors that raiders need a hour to find a unranked match this is entirely another issue.
ill say the quiet part out loud, premades play to just be assholes and then say premades aren't an issue or they aren't a premade.
Oh yeah Jerry was there your cooked brother 0:14
Groups like this are ligit bullying raiders to uninstall this game because they can’t play the game
Yeah and groups like this are partially the reason why Raiders have to play like their own IRL lives are on the line.
I never get to enjoy playing this game anymore because every Raider match I play, I'm forced to play like there's a cash cup tournament going on and hate it every single time. I seriously miss S1 days where I can just chill with my friends on both ends with 8 players max.
And premades will never be my favorite thing especially if its coolmoeny and his squad, never pairing up with them ever again after S5.
And on top of that, I barely even know what the word "FUN" means anymore because this game got turned into a competitive sweaty Olympics-type game. SO MUCH has been token away from me because of what happened during later seasons.
I just had a match as Vegeta and couldn't do anything, constantly evaded people would vanish midair so had no time to determine if they were using instant rise or instant descent. Worse fucking things they could have put in the game. Double stunned and lost half of my health as Nappa cause I couldn't do anything!
this video is NOT getting monetized lol. fr i understand your rant. when players are running all stuns and meta when youve been getting railed over and over for an hour sometimes 2 or 3, you want to get a raider game where you dont immidietly die to meta. i had a zamasu game 2 days ago where 3 people had special beam cannon and killed my ass. i was on a sliver of health and they were coming at me like i owed them $200 each. the devs need to properly balance this game. ive been playing since season 2 when the barrier bike was meta (if you remember that youre goated) and the game is in its worst state yet. if it keeps going down this path we wont see the third aniversary, and that makes me sad. this is honestly a very great concept for a dragon ball game and it pains me to see it dying like this.
3:03 What build do people use to be so tanky?
Prolly had in resistance and godku passive
When it's my turn as the Raider and see survivors are premade before a match starts*
Me: (Sighing) Guess I'll play as Broly this time now.
Just leave and look for another one bro.😉
Goku Black is my go to raider for premades but I want to try and have fun with other characters cause I've been running into premades more often.
@@mlpkillers6293facts. With the amount of premades almost everyone dose it at this point
Broly is my anti-premade Raider, and I defeated Gogeta with Gigantic Roar 160 times
@@mlpkillers6293 And no. I won't leave without getting my reward. Only true losers leave before a match starts as Raiders
They should be helping players rise up instead of knocking them down, that's real power: what they're doing essentially is frying ants with a magnifying glass, which is unproductive, fun, but will eventually get boring for them and they'll be left with a hollow feeling until their next fix.
Premades should not be allowed in this game
"they get anoyyed on reddit if you talk ***" yeah people like that suck at more than DB the breakers its why they require 7 its not "for fun" its "for them tho be able to win they need a 7 v 1"
This is what killed the game, in addition to the drought of content.
Genuinely, do you think Coolmoeny and their group has a life outside of this game?
Stay hydrated
lmao the intro 😂😂
need to see more Catholicane 🙏
This is why queue is horrible cuz everyone’s blocking each other to get lobbies with lower levels. Ppl aren’t happy with this game especially it involves coast locks cuz there isn’t a whole bunch of variety of players to fight against. So ppl are forced to play against the same premade over and over again so it results them to block them and give most majority of ppl more queue times.
I smell a war brewing with this video and the big question is who will win.😈
The praising at the begining to not turn into magenta got me laughing xD
Premades suck but I feel like the frustration is pointed in the wrong thing. It's a team based game and getting mad at a "team" feels oxymoronic.
the complaints should be towards how combining certain skills together genuinely breaks the game
Seeing this, even if you don't play it yet but somehow just stumbled upon Ironcane because you may have played...... idk, Sparking Zero or Xenoverse 2 and was like "ooh, what's this Dragon Ball Breakers game?" and then seeing this? And watching this guy stream for like he said, for 3 and a half hours, (this could be anyone btw, not just Ironcane) and you see him get excited to be the raider, and so do you because you finally get to see the persepctive of the raider! And then you watch as he gets owned within a 2-4 minute game window session, it kinda... just, you know, destroys your intent to buy the game and pick it up for yourself. Now imagine there's a couple thousand or millions watching, not just Ironcane but other streamers who stream the game, and seeing this happened to all of them because of a group of premades who "play for fun" like how Iron starts discussing at 3:50 or so. This is what kills the game, because people who get interested in it and wanna have fun end up getting paired up with folks like this who just ruin the fun for others. It'd be different if you could more frequently get raider, but like Iron said in his previous video, he spent his entire time waiting in queue and playing survivor matches, getting raider two or three times in the span of like, what, 8 hours? (I'm sorry man, don't watch your streams but I do watch your RUclips videos!) Content droughts happen because people don't throw money at it, but people don't throw money at it because of issues like the insanely overpowered premades that can occur or other bug issues and problems that arise.
Hell, I've played this since the betas (idr if it was the Cell beta or the Frieza beta) and was super thrilled to be playing this, that was pre-season 1 where yes it was more favored towards the raider, but survivors were still getting wins here and there. Two years later, unless everyone is solo queuing, the raiders winning is like, non-existant anymore, especially against premade groups. I'm sure there's some out there, but damn, seeing Iron break from this stuff does make me feel a bit better as a small-time streamer myself because I'm glad I'm not the only one running into issues like this.
I wouldn't say ranked is the 'be all, end all', but it doesn't help the situation. People say "It gives us something to do", but what does it give us to do other than give everyone a reason to play sweaty for a letter and a number by your name? Maybe a lame cosmetic shirt that looks terrible on any character? Sure, they'll still play sweaty, but the entire time ranked is on, forcing everyone to play in it, no one has fun since they feel compelled to play sweaty. "It's ranked now, so I need to play this way." Dimps is messing up by not making separate modes or even cool event modes. Not these cosmetic events, I mean like randomize all skills modes, or even 'Classic' modes with limited options. Take away a 'meta' and I bet those groups would crumble.
The funniest shit about this is that those players will act like the victim and Cane has to apologize and be nice to them after they all intentionally aim to ruin raiders' games.
You gave them satisfaction not spiting
When they removed our dodging capability they game stopped bring as fun
damn the IronClap turned into a whole psalm to the lord
Brother what the hell are you talking about 😭 got me dying
You'd think that first match was in the premade trials video
takes 2 hours to get raider (60% of that being que times) for a 3 min raider game
I havent even been playing breakers that much
It's a shame to see you like this from how you use to be Mr. Positive back in the OG days like beta season days and onward ... I wish you all the best moving forward.
I'm positive when its reasonable to be so! now that the game has been out so a decent amount of time, the devs are showing what they're capable of. Now I have to tamper my expectations and make them realistic
Region lock and coastal lock is what made me stop playing the game during Rank season. The que timer was just so damn long.
To tell you this briefly.
There is no Region lock or Coastal locking. If you knew what Real Region locking is that definition wouldn't match what's happening in Breakers.
@@The_WIll_OF_D99 "If you knew what Real Region locking is." LOL🤣, please stop acting like a clown. There is more than one definition of region locking. Here are some, It prevents you from activating the game if you are not from the said region where the game was sold, and a complete geo lock, which means you cant even play the game from an IP of a different country. If there was no Region lock then the community in breakers wouldn't be complaining about it.
I'm sorry Ironcane
Iron’s Catholic, Based.
His rage will be useful during the next crusade
Ranked should only be possible in solo queue
Me personally I’d fight the premade
^premade player