I love the engine sound of the Vectron BR 193 going through the tunnel. There should be a video of a passenger cab ride going through this tunnel uncut. Your videos have excellent quality. Switzerland is a beautiful country.
building the tunnel was Great for Switzerland, Especially Canton Uri, the economically weakest Canton in Switzerland, it brought many jobs to the Canton and alot of Tax revenue. When the tunnel was opened the Citizens of Uri were hoping it would reduce the traffic on the roads, and it did.
56:56 that black thing on the left is a window. When you book a ticket for a tour in the tunnel you can stop by this place and look at the trains passing by
Great video, thanks. We travelled through the base tunnel for the first time last June - enjoyable experience, although still prefer the panoramic route - did the northern section of that too on a round trip from our base in Chur to Andermatt, Andermatt to Goschenen then took the hourly FLIRT service to Erstfeld. Changed for Fluelen and caught the boat to the Swiss Transport Museum, then train (SOB) to Rapperswil, Zieglebrucke and back to Chur. Fantastic but long day out on the fabulous Swiss trains. Took an 8 day Swiss travelcard - great value for money for those who love rail travel etc.
Wow, this is the first video recorded inside the GBT. Previously I watched inside fully illuminated tunnel. It would be nicer if during such a long in tunnel travel, you will insert some driver's desk views (tachometer). But this the best of the best of SBB cab rides. Thank you.
niemand beschriftet und erklärt die videos so toll wie du! es macht einfach spass, sie zu sehen und viel dazu zu lernen - auch wenn man im altersheim im tösstal lebt, wo du auch schon vorbeigefahren bist :-) vielen dank für all deine arbeit!
Thanks for a great video. I did enjoy some of the tunnel. Exiting the tunnel is amazing. What a feast for the eyes. While in the tunnel I imagined what it'd be like to walk from one end to the other in darkness. Assuming no trains of course. The idea of a tunnel this long under the alps blows my mind.
Gracias por el video,nunca hubiera soñado ver este inmenso túnel atraves de los ojos del maquinista ,muy interesante y mucho mejor que hacer el viaje físico, cuya visión siempre sería desde la ventanilla. Un abrazo.
Tolle Führerstandfahrt, Daumen hoch!!! Ich war mehrmals auf der Baustelle des Gotthardbasistunnels, auf der Tunnelbohrmaschine und bei der Einweihung im Juni 2016 dabei :-), sogar zweimal durchgefahren!! Die ETCS - Strecke der Gotthardlinie ist doch schon sehr weit fortgeschritten wie man gesehen hat. Weiter so!!!
Hallo RE Danke für die ungeschnittene Fahrt durch den GBT - als Tunnelfetischist finde ich das toll, das "Innere" des Tunnels mal zu sehen (- und die Hoffnung stirbt zuletzt, vielleicht gibt es ja auch einmal ein Video vom LBT) - ein weiteres tolles Video, ich freue mich auf den zweiten Teil, den ich mir morgen Abend reinziehen werde!
Achja, da war ja noch was... ;-) Nur Geduld, den LBT werde ich schon noch ungeschnitten einstellen. Das Feedback auf den ungeschnittenen GBT war zu meinem Erstaunen ja recht gut.
Und es kann sein wie es will: Zwar ein Riesenbauwerk, mit höchster schweizerischer Präzision geplant und gebaut. Und es blieb sogar ziemlich im Zeit- und Kostenrahmen. Chapeau!!! Die Schweizer können so etwas halt. Als deutscher Nachbar kann man da manchmal schon neidisch werden, wie die das alles so machen, gerade, was die Bah angeht. Aber die Bergstrecke ist und bleibt doch viel schöner. Na gut, ich bin halt ein alter Romantiker...Excusez.
Dieses Video ist in einfach toll. Bravo für das Hochladen, da kann man das Lokführer-Dasein herrlich nachvollziehen. Der Gotthard-Tunnel ist echt lang,. Der Brennerbasistunnel wird noch länger (mit Umfahrung Innsbruck soll er 64 km lang sein) und soll laut Plan 2025 fertiggestellt und ab 2016 befahrbar sein. Schöne Grüße. Rudolf König aus Österreich.
wewll, that confirms it. Given a choice between a train that will geet me to my destination much more quickly and one that will give me Alpine scenes, I'll take the latter. 57 km of concrete? No thanks! the video production was as good as we have become accustomed to. Keep up the good work. [Edited to include an after-thought]
Ab 1:33:15 : Rechts zu sehen der Voralpen-Express. Für mich persönlich einer der schönsten Zugläufe der Schweiz (Luzern - Rapperswil - St Gallen). Bin ich, als ich noch in der Schweiz wohnte, oft und gerne mitgefahren.
Auténtico ambiente ferroviario el que se respira en ésta hermosa estación de Arth-Goldau. Pasé un emocionante tiempo de espera, durante mi intercambio de tren. Precioso!!
Absolutely fantastic!! One question though, what are those strange chequered shadows/reflections seen regularly on the right hand side of the tunnel caused by? Very odd as I can see no reason for them! If they were a reflection of the cab lights, they would be there all the time surely!
The roadrunner is a quite important and nice feature. We can "mark" a spot with the pedal and the train will then count meters. When the whole train has passed this spot (for example a switch), the meep-meep can be heard and we know we can now come to a stop without blocking trains behind.
I think on the whole I'd stick to the local trains over the old route, thank you. I might do it once just to tick it off, but I don't think I'd do it very often out of choice.
Tolles Video, vor allen Dingen, dass die GBT Durchfahrt nicht gekürzt wurde! Dazu auch meine Frage: Bisher ging ich davon aus, dass die Durchfahrt mit annähernd konstanter Geschwindigkeit erfolgt. Das Video zeigt, dass bei ca. 30:00 fast bis zum Stillstand gebremst werden musste. Lag das am vorausfahrenden Zug? Meine zweite Frage bezieht sich auch auf den GBT. Kann bei den hohen Temperaturen im Tunnel die volle Lokleistung abgerufen werden oder gibt es im Tunnel Beschränkungen?
Hallo Dieter, das lag am Vordermann, der im Tunnel zum Stillstand kam. Im Regelfall wird schon eine konstante Geschwindigkeit gefahren, damit es nicht zu Verzögerungen kommt und die wertvollen Kapazitäten im GBT genutzt werden. Bei den Temperaturen kann man die Loks grundsätzlich voll nutzen, man sieht auf den Diagnosedisplays, dass die Komponenten sich stark erwärmen, aber sie funktionieren einwandfrei.
Es dürfte schwierig werden, die Kamera dort zu montieren. Zudem würde diese Montage meine Sicht auf die Anzeige (DMI) zumindest teilweise verdecken. Das DMI ist aber extrem wichtig, daher werde ich solche Versuche leider auslassen müssen.
@@RailwayEmotions Schade, aber die genannten Umstände lassen es verständlicherweise nicht zu. Die Anregung kam mir, weil man im Gegensatz zur Aussensignalisierung halt nur die Blechtafeln sieht.
Si un jour vous faites le tunnel de base du Gothard, prévoyez quand même un gâteau d'anniversaire et un sapin de Noël! et je sais bien qu'on est en Avril, mais bonne année d'avance!
Ich Michael Roitzheim habe als Elektromonteur, im Tunnelbau Hans Leutenegger AG Personalleasing in Luzern März 2013 bis Juni 2015 im Gotthard Basistunnel gearbeitet: und mir gefällt der Film sehr Gut.
@@theoz2850 Während der Bauphase befand sich dort eine zweigleisige 600mm Stollenbahn. Für die Montage der Bahntechnik wurden Normalspur Geleise verlegt. Dieser Stollen hat eine Länge von ca. 2KM
Verlängerung im Norden Bearbeiten Im Inneren des Berges bei Erstfeld wurde für weitere 100 Mio. CHF das Verzweigungsbauwerk «Uri Süd» gebaut. Damit wurde eine mögliche spätere Weiterführung des Tunnels in Richtung Norden und damit die Umfahrung von Altdorf in der sogenannten Variante «Berg lang geschlossen» vorbereitet. Diese von der Urner Bevölkerung und Regierung geforderte Lösung zum Schutz der Reussebene vor weiteren Emissionen (Lärm, Erschütterung) wurde vom Bundesrat im Juni 2002 zur Planung beauftragt. Das neue Tunnelteilstück würde im Raum Flüelen mit dem ebenfalls noch zu bauenden Axentunnel verbunden werden, was den Gotthard-Basistunnel faktisch auf rund 75 Kilometer verlängern würde. Diese Lösung wird als «Uri Berg lang-Axen» (UBLA) bezeichnet. Finanzierung und der Zeitrahmen für diese weiteren NEAT-Abschnitte bleiben offen. Quelle: Wikipedia
How long were you waiting around 17:40? It seemed to get light quite noticeably while you were waiting. Was that train on the right preceding you into the tunnel?
Sehr interessante Iblick, danke vielmal fürs inestelle! Mich verwirred gad 2 Sache e bitz: Gsehn ich das richtig, dass bide Verbindigstunnel vode Spurwechsel in SSMF und FSMF Tor vorhande sind? Werded die bi Fahrt überd Ablenkig automatisch ufgmacht? S ander sind Schutzstreckene unter L2. Sind die nur durd Taflene ade Strecki azeigt oder gits do au e Hiwis im DMI?
Das ist richtig, diese Tore trennen die Tunnels voneinander. Vor allem geht es darum, dass die Luft, die die Züge vor sich herschieben, nicht in die jeweils andere Röhre gedrückt wird. Sollte die Ablenkung gestellt sein, stehen die Tore natürlich offen. Schutzstrecken unter L2 werden ausschliesslich auf dem DMI angezeigt, die Tafeln draussen zeigen die exakte Position der Schutzstrecke. Solange sie auf dem DMI nicht angezeigt wird, muss auch nicht ausgeschaltet werden.
Does ETCS level 2 have any self-driving capabilities like LZB does? On such a long tunnel with no meaningful curves or gradients, or any chance of obstructions on the track, it doesn't seem like there's much for the driver to do. There's no signals or anything to really look out for, except for the occasional ETCS block sign with the arrow. What's it like driving under a cab signalling system compared with more traditional lineside signals (+warning devices)?
It doesn't, because it has no access to the train's controls, except for the air brakes. But there have been tests and it is possible to link ETCS to the controls and therefore let it accelerate and brake more or less automatic, but without cameras or sensors to observe the outside. It's basically just an automatic speed adjustment. Driving is more or less the same, we're still in charge, still controlling the train, but just checking the signalling inside the cab instead of outside.
There is only very little cargo traffic on the mountain route, but traffic can be diverted in case that the tunnel is temporarily closed due to maintenance or disturbances.
Because of the European Train Control System. He had to stop, otherwise the train would have come to stop by itself. If you are interested in that topic, Google about ETCS.
Also why do the trains enter the tunnel portal so slowly? I would have thought they would use the new high speed approach railway from Biasca to accelerate to full speed before the tunnel?
Freight stops in front of the tunnel, passenger trains pass them, then they accelerate into the tunnel. It takes a while to accelerate a freight train, all this has been considered while planning and constructing the tunnel and the timetables. It works out perfectly!
You could ask anybody in any job in the world how they don't get bored doing it. It is true, there are very little inputs from the outside world in the tunnel, but on the other hand, it's just 20min with passenger trains and around 40-50 with cargo, it's not that long. Keeping up the concentration is a core skill of any train driver and this ability is tested during the recruitment process. Over 80% fail these tests.
@@RailwayEmotions I have to admit that it was difficult for me to watch the video all the way through the tunnel but then I wasn't responsible for a powerful locomotive and 1500t of cargo. Anyway, thanks for a great video and for all the information.
You had the possibility to skip it! ;) I have left the tunnel uncut in the video, so whoever wants to experience it in full length can do so. Admittedly, it is not very interesting to watch it on video, but it is a whole different feeling inside the actual tunnel.
@@RailwayEmotions I am glad you left it uncut because I wanted to find out what it felt like to spend such a long time in the tunnel. If you haven't found them already, you might find Don Coffey's cab ride videos from the Liverpool, Manchester, Leeds area of interest. For instance ruclips.net/video/bOecy4pky5U/видео.html
If you ride through it in real life, it will take you less than half of the time it took us here. Passenger trains blast through in only about 20 minutes.
Tolles Video . Und ne Frage . Du bist 07.05 in Bellinzona los . Ständer vor der Tunneleinfahrt im Dunkeln . Als du wieder los bist , schien die Sonne auf die Berge . Wie lange hast du warten müssen und wieso ? Sind soviel Zuge vor dir rein ?
That is how ETCS Level 2 works, they are not in use by passing trains in ETCS L2 areas, therefore they show stop. Passing a standard (white) dwarf signal that shows stop is forbidden, so those in L2 areas are blue in colour and it is a sign for us that we can ignore them, except for shunting. All other dwarfs outside L2 areas (the vast majority) are still white and still have to show a driving aspect when passing.
A figure that tells how fast a train can come to a stop. Modern passenger trains have between 135 - 180%, freight trains can have as low as 50%. Braking ratio therefore defines the vmax for the whole train and for all segments of the route. It's not uncommon that a stretch of track can be driven with 125kmh by a passenger train and the same track only with 30kmh by a freight train with low braking percentage.
Many thanks for this one, it was long awaited. It sounded like you did not shut off power for the neutral section/phase lock inside the tunnel. Is that right or were my ears deceiving me??
No need to worry about your ears! All signalling on ETCS L2 is only virtual, it only exists on the display in the cab. The neutral section is usually not active and therefore, we went through with power. If the section is active, we would be advised on the display. The visible signals then show us where exactly the neutral section is located in the outside world. It's quite a bit different than the standard lineside signalling.
So ganz ohne Signale und Halt zeigende ETCS-Rangiersignale (Zwergsignale) überfahren ist schon irgendwie komisch zum anschauen, wenn man nur das "Normale" Kennt
Why is the train limited to 100 km/h in the tunnel? During the tunnel's construction they claimed that freight trains could travel through the tunnel at 160 km/h, with high speed trains travelling through it 250 km/h - apparently passenger trains are limited to 200 km/h at present. What's the point of such building an expensive tunnel if the trains using it are limited to 60-80% of the assumed operating speed?
You understood a few things wrong: This train is limited to 100km/h in general, not just in the tunnel, most freight trains operate at 100-120km/h. The tunnel was built with freight in mind, not for passenger trains. Lower speed does not equal a limited capacity, because freight trains can be much longer, heavier and pulled by a single locomotive, compared to the mountain route. With lower speeds, more trains can travel through the tunnel at the same time, due to shorter braking distances. With higher speeds, they would be through much quicker, but with longer distances between the trains. Take a look at a greater picture: The same amount of freight through the tunnel is done quicker, with much less energy consumption and less personnel compared to the mountain route. And they are not in the way of the faster passenger trains, most of them operate at around 160 - 180km/h in the tunnel anyway.
@@RailwayEmotions Do you know if the Base Tunnel is clearanced for wider pans or would any non-SBB lok or power car would have to be equiped with Swiss pans to use the tunnel....??
Of course not, Swiss infrastructure requires Swiss pantographs and security equipment. The ICE1 and ICE4 have them, so theoretically they could be used through the GBT, but it wouldn't make any sense to send them down there. The ETR610 is specifically made to travel from Germany to Italy and back, there is no need to fit the ICE with italian technology aswell.
@@RailwayEmotions Sorry, that's not right! I have filmed EVERY railway-line of Switzerland. IT IS POSSIBLE to do it: www.fuehrerstandsmitfahrten.ch/de/ Until in 2 years I'll finish the publicity of all railway-lines. But it was a big work and I needed much time to do it.
@Andreas: Whoever is not permitted in the cab (= nicht fahrdienstlich geprüfte Personen), can't just go in there and film. So either you're a driver yourself and you can film this stuff on the job (like you see here), or you get into the cab with a permission from the company you were filming. Usually this means the driver driving, another driving accompanying you and you, filming, in the cab. I don't know what you did and how you did it, but usually, these cab rides in real life are quite expensive because of the extra personnel needed. So, yes, of course it is possible to book a cab ride and film it, but usually with a bill attached. Or you have some really good connections. I don't want anybody reading your comment think that they can simply knock on the door and go for a cab ride. As much as I'd love to take a subscriber with me, I can't.
@@RailwayEmotions Indeed , drivers can shoot cab ride videos at little cost and upload them to RUclips. But a professional video maker has to recover costs some how. Given the vast quantity of excellent quality and high resolution videos on RUclips, I'm not sure how much of market exists for DVDs of this nature.
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OK. Give ma a moment. On the one hand I could be gobsmacked. On the other I'm not surprised. In no way am I suggesting you or any of your colleagues are less than qualified. Granted there could be ticket inspectors on the passenger vehicles, do you run those solo as well? @@RailwayEmotions
No worries, it's not about qualification, it is just the standard here. We're always alone in the cab, except if a colleague is with us for route knowledge or a driver in training is accompanying us, or driving himself under supervision. Long distance (EC, IC, IR) trains always have a train crew, but they're in the back with the passengers and not with us in the cab. Other passenger trains and local S- and R-trains have ticket inspectors on them from time to time, but they also work independent of us and vice versa.
@@RailwayEmotions I quote - 'it is just the standard here.' I could think it's like driving a bus or a big truck, except with regard to this journey just for example, what was it? In excess of 500 meters long, 1500 tons, braking ratio 80%. It speaks volumes about the respect accorded to the position, responsibility, training and skill of drivers, engineers and whoever else.
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I love the engine sound of the Vectron BR 193 going through the tunnel. There should be a video of a passenger cab ride going through this tunnel uncut. Your videos have excellent quality. Switzerland is a beautiful country.
building the tunnel was Great for Switzerland, Especially Canton Uri, the economically weakest Canton in Switzerland, it brought many jobs to the Canton and alot of Tax revenue. When the tunnel was opened the Citizens of Uri were hoping it would reduce the traffic on the roads, and it did.
56:56 that black thing on the left is a window. When you book a ticket for a tour in the tunnel you can stop by this place and look at the trains passing by
Wow! A 57 km tunnel and that too a continuous one with no break. It's a marvel how they build them. Cant wait to see the second part.
17:40 Sunrise
21:40 Gotthard Basistunnel (57.1 km)
36:50 MFS
46:20
48:15 MFS
58:40
1:01:20 Light
1:04:15 Altdorf
1:06:50 Flüelen
1:13:40 Gruonbachtunnel (100 m)
1:14:15 Stutzeck-Axenbergtunnel (3.4 km)
1:17:35 Sisikon
1:18:10 Ölbergtunnel (2 km)
1:20:20 Franziskustunnel (200 m)
1:20:50 Hochfluhtunnel (580 m)
1:21:30 Morschachtunnel (560 m)
1:22:25 Brunnen
1:24:05 Bridge
1:25:20 Schwyz
1:27:50 Steinen
1:32:15 Arth-Goldau
Great video, thanks. We travelled through the base tunnel for the first time last June - enjoyable experience, although still prefer the panoramic route - did the northern section of that too on a round trip from our base in Chur to Andermatt, Andermatt to Goschenen then took the hourly FLIRT service to Erstfeld. Changed for Fluelen and caught the boat to the Swiss Transport Museum, then train (SOB) to Rapperswil, Zieglebrucke and back to Chur. Fantastic but long day out on the fabulous Swiss trains. Took an 8 day Swiss travelcard - great value for money for those who love rail travel etc.
I knew that the GBT was long but holy moly… seeing this video just blows my mind… Humanity can really build some amazing and crazy things! :O
Thanks! I was waiting for a Gotthard Base Tunnel cabride! Keep up the good work! :)
Wow, this is the first video recorded inside the GBT. Previously I watched inside fully illuminated tunnel. It would be nicer if during such a long in tunnel travel, you will insert some driver's desk views (tachometer). But this the best of the best of SBB cab rides. Thank you.
niemand beschriftet und erklärt die videos so toll wie du! es macht einfach spass, sie zu sehen und viel dazu zu lernen - auch wenn man im altersheim im tösstal lebt, wo du auch schon vorbeigefahren bist :-) vielen dank für all deine arbeit!
Wow the sound of the train in the tunnel is like listening to white noise, i almost fell asleep listening to this
Thanks for a great video. I did enjoy some of the tunnel. Exiting the tunnel is amazing. What a feast for the eyes. While in the tunnel I imagined what it'd be like to walk from one end to the other in darkness. Assuming no trains of course. The idea of a tunnel this long under the alps blows my mind.
Very interesting ! Can 't wait for part two !!! Thank you for sharing!!! :):):)
Gracias por el video,nunca hubiera soñado ver este inmenso túnel atraves de los ojos del maquinista ,muy interesante y mucho mejor que hacer el viaje físico, cuya visión siempre sería desde la ventanilla.
Un abrazo.
Tolle Führerstandfahrt, Daumen hoch!!! Ich war mehrmals auf der Baustelle des Gotthardbasistunnels, auf der Tunnelbohrmaschine und bei der Einweihung im Juni 2016 dabei :-), sogar zweimal durchgefahren!!
Die ETCS - Strecke der Gotthardlinie ist doch schon sehr weit fortgeschritten wie man gesehen hat.
Weiter so!!!
WOW! Megatunnel promised - completed. THANKS!!!
Ein tolles Video von einem gigantischen Bauwerk. Ich stelle es mir ermüdend vor mit nem Güterzug am Haken ca. 40 Minuten nur in die Röhre zu gucken.
Danke für diese Interressante Mitfahrt auch im Tunnel....
Ein wunderschoenes dokument Schweizer ingenieurskunst und koennen.Die Schweiz is mein Eisenbahnvorbild. Chapeau.
спасибо, все Ваши видео очень содержательные и качественные.
Thanks for video. Will be looking for next part. Love the city at 1:08:01
Как обычно, красиво и интересно! Спасибо!
21:40 Gotthard Base Tunnel (57 kilometers) 36:54 Faido 48:14 Sedrun
Krásné, úchvatné, moc se mi to líbí.
Hallo RE
Danke für die ungeschnittene Fahrt durch den GBT - als Tunnelfetischist finde ich das toll, das "Innere" des Tunnels mal zu sehen (- und die Hoffnung stirbt zuletzt, vielleicht gibt es ja auch einmal ein Video vom LBT) - ein weiteres tolles Video, ich freue mich auf den zweiten Teil, den ich mir morgen Abend reinziehen werde!
Achja, da war ja noch was... ;-) Nur Geduld, den LBT werde ich schon noch ungeschnitten einstellen. Das Feedback auf den ungeschnittenen GBT war zu meinem Erstaunen ja recht gut.
Danke für die positive Anwort - ich freue mich!
Hej elegancko - petarda like 142 great video ✨🎆🎇🎥👍🙌👌🥇🤴🏆
Und es kann sein wie es will: Zwar ein Riesenbauwerk, mit höchster schweizerischer Präzision geplant und gebaut. Und es blieb sogar ziemlich im Zeit- und Kostenrahmen. Chapeau!!! Die Schweizer können so etwas halt. Als deutscher Nachbar kann man da manchmal schon neidisch werden, wie die das alles so machen, gerade, was die Bah angeht. Aber die Bergstrecke ist und bleibt doch viel schöner. Na gut, ich bin halt ein alter Romantiker...Excusez.
Dieses Video ist in einfach toll. Bravo für das Hochladen, da kann man das Lokführer-Dasein herrlich nachvollziehen.
Der Gotthard-Tunnel ist echt lang,. Der Brennerbasistunnel wird noch länger (mit Umfahrung Innsbruck soll er 64 km lang sein) und soll laut Plan 2025 fertiggestellt und ab 2016 befahrbar sein.
Schöne Grüße. Rudolf König aus Österreich.
Thanks for another great video. I enjoyed it very much.
Morning is the most pleasant and beautiful time of day.
聖哥達基線隧道全長57公里，是一條阿爾卑斯山底隧道，是全世界最長和最深的鐵路隧道🇨🇭🇨🇭
聖哥達基線隧道已經超越青函隧道及英法海底隧道
wewll, that confirms it. Given a choice between a train that will geet me to my destination much more quickly and one that will give me Alpine scenes, I'll take the latter. 57 km of concrete? No thanks! the video production was as good as we have become accustomed to. Keep up the good work. [Edited to include an after-thought]
Klasse Video - sehr gut gemacht, Hut ab !!
Complimenti x il video, spettacolare.
Vielen Dank für das tolle Video.Super.Klasse
Grossartig! Vielen dank für das Video!
Ab 1:33:15 : Rechts zu sehen der Voralpen-Express. Für mich persönlich einer der schönsten Zugläufe der Schweiz (Luzern - Rapperswil - St Gallen). Bin ich, als ich noch in der Schweiz wohnte, oft und gerne mitgefahren.
thank you,enjoyed that very much.
Auténtico ambiente ferroviario el que se respira en ésta hermosa estación de Arth-Goldau. Pasé un emocionante tiempo de espera, durante mi intercambio de tren. Precioso!!
Beautiful! Thanks!
super sound :D
Absolutely fantastic!! One question though, what are those strange chequered shadows/reflections seen regularly on the right hand side of the tunnel caused by? Very odd as I can see no reason for them! If they were a reflection of the cab lights, they would be there all the time surely!
The sound at 1:33:52 sounds like an anime Roadrunner,
Is it a BR193 thing?
Please tell me what this sound is.
(From Google Translate)
impressive, even with 'road=runner' along for the ride ! ( Beep-Beep)
The roadrunner is a quite important and nice feature. We can "mark" a spot with the pedal and the train will then count meters. When the whole train has passed this spot (for example a switch), the meep-meep can be heard and we know we can now come to a stop without blocking trains behind.
i wonder what the hold up was at about 17:40
Are the older locos (like the Re 6/6 at 1:25:30) equipped with ETCS, or is it just newer traction?
Some of them are. We have been in an ETCS equipped Re 620 in the cab ride through the Lötschberg Base Tunnel.
I think on the whole I'd stick to the local trains over the old route, thank you. I might do it once just to tick it off, but I don't think I'd do it very often out of choice.
SIlly question: Do you wave to drivers of oncoming trains?
Yes we do!
Bellissima tratta
Tolles Video, vor allen Dingen, dass die GBT Durchfahrt nicht gekürzt wurde! Dazu auch meine Frage: Bisher ging ich davon aus, dass die Durchfahrt mit annähernd konstanter Geschwindigkeit erfolgt. Das Video zeigt, dass bei ca. 30:00 fast bis zum Stillstand gebremst werden musste. Lag das am vorausfahrenden Zug? Meine zweite Frage bezieht sich auch auf den GBT. Kann bei den hohen Temperaturen im Tunnel die volle Lokleistung abgerufen werden oder gibt es im Tunnel Beschränkungen?
Hallo Dieter, das lag am Vordermann, der im Tunnel zum Stillstand kam. Im Regelfall wird schon eine konstante Geschwindigkeit gefahren, damit es nicht zu Verzögerungen kommt und die wertvollen Kapazitäten im GBT genutzt werden. Bei den Temperaturen kann man die Loks grundsätzlich voll nutzen, man sieht auf den Diagnosedisplays, dass die Komponenten sich stark erwärmen, aber sie funktionieren einwandfrei.
@@RailwayEmotions Ganz herzlichen Dank für die Informationen! Wäre es auch möglich, die ETCS Anzeigen als zweites Bild in das Video einzublenden?
Es dürfte schwierig werden, die Kamera dort zu montieren. Zudem würde diese Montage meine Sicht auf die Anzeige (DMI) zumindest teilweise verdecken. Das DMI ist aber extrem wichtig, daher werde ich solche Versuche leider auslassen müssen.
@@RailwayEmotions Schade, aber die genannten Umstände lassen es verständlicherweise nicht zu. Die Anregung kam mir, weil man im Gegensatz zur Aussensignalisierung halt nur die Blechtafeln sieht.
It’s too bad they didn’t have the lights on, but it was a fascinating ride through the base tunnel.
Si un jour vous faites le tunnel de base du Gothard, prévoyez quand même un gâteau d'anniversaire et un sapin de Noël! et je sais bien qu'on est en Avril, mais bonne année d'avance!
Ich Michael Roitzheim habe als Elektromonteur, im Tunnelbau
Hans Leutenegger AG Personalleasing in Luzern
März 2013 bis Juni 2015
im Gotthard Basistunnel gearbeitet:
und mir gefällt der Film sehr Gut.
super video
AMAZING....
Ab 58:40 sieht man eine nicht installierte Abzweigung nach links in einen (leeren?) Tunnel verschwinden - worum handelt es sich hier?
Zugangsstollen Amsteg
dronf Danke! Gab es hier während der Bauzeit ein Abstell- oder Ladegleis, dass hier Gleisreste (?) liegen?
@@theoz2850 Während der Bauphase befand sich dort eine zweigleisige 600mm Stollenbahn. Für die Montage der Bahntechnik wurden Normalspur Geleise verlegt. Dieser Stollen hat eine Länge von ca. 2KM
Verlängerung im Norden Bearbeiten
Im Inneren des Berges bei Erstfeld wurde für weitere 100 Mio. CHF das Verzweigungsbauwerk «Uri Süd» gebaut. Damit wurde eine mögliche spätere Weiterführung des Tunnels in Richtung Norden und damit die Umfahrung von Altdorf in der sogenannten Variante «Berg lang geschlossen» vorbereitet. Diese von der Urner Bevölkerung und Regierung geforderte Lösung zum Schutz der Reussebene vor weiteren Emissionen (Lärm, Erschütterung) wurde vom Bundesrat im Juni 2002 zur Planung beauftragt.
Das neue Tunnelteilstück würde im Raum Flüelen mit dem ebenfalls noch zu bauenden Axentunnel verbunden werden, was den Gotthard-Basistunnel faktisch auf rund 75 Kilometer verlängern würde. Diese Lösung wird als «Uri Berg lang-Axen» (UBLA) bezeichnet. Finanzierung und der Zeitrahmen für diese weiteren NEAT-Abschnitte bleiben offen.
Quelle: Wikipedia
How long were you waiting around 17:40? It seemed to get light quite noticeably while you were waiting. Was that train on the right preceding you into the tunnel?
That was around 18 minutes. During that time, a passenger train and the freight train on the right went into the tunnel before we did.
Sehr interessante Iblick, danke vielmal fürs inestelle!
Mich verwirred gad 2 Sache e bitz: Gsehn ich das richtig, dass bide Verbindigstunnel vode Spurwechsel in SSMF und FSMF Tor vorhande sind? Werded die bi Fahrt überd Ablenkig automatisch ufgmacht?
S ander sind Schutzstreckene unter L2. Sind die nur durd Taflene ade Strecki azeigt oder gits do au e Hiwis im DMI?
Das ist richtig, diese Tore trennen die Tunnels voneinander. Vor allem geht es darum, dass die Luft, die die Züge vor sich herschieben, nicht in die jeweils andere Röhre gedrückt wird. Sollte die Ablenkung gestellt sein, stehen die Tore natürlich offen.
Schutzstrecken unter L2 werden ausschliesslich auf dem DMI angezeigt, die Tafeln draussen zeigen die exakte Position der Schutzstrecke. Solange sie auf dem DMI nicht angezeigt wird, muss auch nicht ausgeschaltet werden.
@@RailwayEmotions Danke vielmal fürd Uskunft!
Does ETCS level 2 have any self-driving capabilities like LZB does? On such a long tunnel with no meaningful curves or gradients, or any chance of obstructions on the track, it doesn't seem like there's much for the driver to do. There's no signals or anything to really look out for, except for the occasional ETCS block sign with the arrow.
What's it like driving under a cab signalling system compared with more traditional lineside signals (+warning devices)?
It doesn't, because it has no access to the train's controls, except for the air brakes. But there have been tests and it is possible to link ETCS to the controls and therefore let it accelerate and brake more or less automatic, but without cameras or sensors to observe the outside. It's basically just an automatic speed adjustment. Driving is more or less the same, we're still in charge, still controlling the train, but just checking the signalling inside the cab instead of outside.
Awesome Video! more freight trains please and as for Basel Freight Yard compare it to our 'mickey mouse' ones!!(UK)
Its a cargo train?
How is traffic on the old Gotthard route now ? I know local passenger service remains. Is there still a fair amount of cargo sent that way ?
There is only very little cargo traffic on the mountain route, but traffic can be diverted in case that the tunnel is temporarily closed due to maintenance or disturbances.
21:26 go to Gotthard Base Tunnel and 1:01:33 go out Gotthard Base Tunnel !
But that's not 20 minutes tho
Why did you/the driver stop at 17:40?
Because of the European Train Control System. He had to stop, otherwise the train would have come to stop by itself. If you are interested in that topic, Google about ETCS.
is this an active tunnel now?? i can’t seem to find anything recent
Can you do the same route with a passenger train? And also through the Lötschberg with a passenger train?
Can’t believe you drove the Siemens taurus 1216
Also why do the trains enter the tunnel portal so slowly? I would have thought they would use the new high speed approach railway from Biasca to accelerate to full speed before the tunnel?
Freight stops in front of the tunnel, passenger trains pass them, then they accelerate into the tunnel. It takes a while to accelerate a freight train, all this has been considered while planning and constructing the tunnel and the timetables. It works out perfectly!
Wie schnell fährt der Zug da durch??
At 30:22 why the train is slow down?
Another train in the section ahead
At 28:56 BR 193 train begin slowing down 😉
how is the air in the tunnel, hard to breath?
The air is fine, but it's 50°C, so not very comfortable.
Werden die Signale im Tunnel und danach in der Lok angezeigt? weil Minutenlang kein Signal zu sehen ist.
Bruchsch dir volli leischtig vo de vectron? Würd au e RE6/6 gah oder benutzt d sbb die nümme so vill zum schone?
How do drivers keep their concentration and not get bored as they travel through the GBT?
You could ask anybody in any job in the world how they don't get bored doing it. It is true, there are very little inputs from the outside world in the tunnel, but on the other hand, it's just 20min with passenger trains and around 40-50 with cargo, it's not that long. Keeping up the concentration is a core skill of any train driver and this ability is tested during the recruitment process. Over 80% fail these tests.
@@RailwayEmotions I have to admit that it was difficult for me to watch the video all the way through the tunnel but then I wasn't responsible for a powerful locomotive and 1500t of cargo. Anyway, thanks for a great video and for all the information.
You had the possibility to skip it! ;) I have left the tunnel uncut in the video, so whoever wants to experience it in full length can do so. Admittedly, it is not very interesting to watch it on video, but it is a whole different feeling inside the actual tunnel.
@@RailwayEmotions I am glad you left it uncut because I wanted to find out what it felt like to spend such a long time in the tunnel. If you haven't found them already, you might find Don Coffey's cab ride videos from the Liverpool, Manchester, Leeds area of interest. For instance ruclips.net/video/bOecy4pky5U/видео.html
If you ride through it in real life, it will take you less than half of the time it took us here. Passenger trains blast through in only about 20 minutes.
Tolles Video . Und ne Frage . Du bist 07.05 in Bellinzona los . Ständer vor der Tunneleinfahrt im Dunkeln . Als du wieder los bist , schien die Sonne auf die Berge . Wie lange hast du warten müssen und wieso ? Sind soviel Zuge vor dir rein ?
Das waren etwa 18 Minuten, in der Zeit ist ein Personenzug und der Güterzug, der rechts zu sehen ist, vorne rein.
Speed limit tunnel ? Thank 😀
Wie schnell fährt eigentlich ein Güterzug im Gotthardtunnel?
Wie auf allen übrigen Strecken je nach Zug höchstens 100 oder 120 km/h.
Спасибо за такую прелесть !
why do you keep changing tracks when your out of the tunnels
Are blue dwarf signals now standard or what's going on there?
Only in ETCS Level 2 areas.
@@RailwayEmotions Why the change from white to blue? And why are they all horizontal / at stop if your train has a route past them?
That is how ETCS Level 2 works, they are not in use by passing trains in ETCS L2 areas, therefore they show stop. Passing a standard (white) dwarf signal that shows stop is forbidden, so those in L2 areas are blue in colour and it is a sign for us that we can ignore them, except for shunting. All other dwarfs outside L2 areas (the vast majority) are still white and still have to show a driving aspect when passing.
@@RailwayEmotions Ah that makes sense. Thanks for the explanation :)
What does the Braking Ratio represent?
A figure that tells how fast a train can come to a stop. Modern passenger trains have between 135 - 180%, freight trains can have as low as 50%. Braking ratio therefore defines the vmax for the whole train and for all segments of the route. It's not uncommon that a stretch of track can be driven with 125kmh by a passenger train and the same track only with 30kmh by a freight train with low braking percentage.
There must be this train announcement, before entering the tunnel->Diese Zug fährt weiter ohne halt bis ende des Tunnels
Love videos :)
wow!
Many thanks for this one, it was long awaited. It sounded like you did not shut off power for the neutral section/phase lock inside the tunnel. Is that right or were my ears deceiving me??
No need to worry about your ears! All signalling on ETCS L2 is only virtual, it only exists on the display in the cab. The neutral section is usually not active and therefore, we went through with power. If the section is active, we would be advised on the display. The visible signals then show us where exactly the neutral section is located in the outside world. It's quite a bit different than the standard lineside signalling.
So ganz ohne Signale und Halt zeigende ETCS-Rangiersignale (Zwergsignale) überfahren ist schon irgendwie komisch zum anschauen, wenn man nur das "Normale" Kennt
Weird! where are all the happy passengers?
I wish it said why they slowed so much at 31 minutes. I'm just curious...
The train ahead had to slow down, which then slowed us down.
Why is the train limited to 100 km/h in the tunnel? During the tunnel's construction they claimed that freight trains could travel through the tunnel at 160 km/h, with high speed trains travelling through it 250 km/h - apparently passenger trains are limited to 200 km/h at present. What's the point of such building an expensive tunnel if the trains using it are limited to 60-80% of the assumed operating speed?
You understood a few things wrong: This train is limited to 100km/h in general, not just in the tunnel, most freight trains operate at 100-120km/h. The tunnel was built with freight in mind, not for passenger trains. Lower speed does not equal a limited capacity, because freight trains can be much longer, heavier and pulled by a single locomotive, compared to the mountain route. With lower speeds, more trains can travel through the tunnel at the same time, due to shorter braking distances. With higher speeds, they would be through much quicker, but with longer distances between the trains. Take a look at a greater picture: The same amount of freight through the tunnel is done quicker, with much less energy consumption and less personnel compared to the mountain route. And they are not in the way of the faster passenger trains, most of them operate at around 160 - 180km/h in the tunnel anyway.
gee ... where is the incline and decline ?
Will DB ICE 3 trains use the tunnel....??
No, the ICE3 is not in service in Switzerland, only ICE1 and ICE4. And those do not run through the tunnel, the ICE1 was just used for tests.
@@RailwayEmotions Do you know if the Base Tunnel is clearanced for wider pans or would any non-SBB lok or power car would have to be equiped with Swiss pans to use the tunnel....??
Of course not, Swiss infrastructure requires Swiss pantographs and security equipment. The ICE1 and ICE4 have them, so theoretically they could be used through the GBT, but it wouldn't make any sense to send them down there. The ETR610 is specifically made to travel from Germany to Italy and back, there is no need to fit the ICE with italian technology aswell.
是全世界最長及最深的鐵路隧道
True
There is nothing that man cannot do, if he should imagine it.
聖哥達基線隧道全長57.1公里
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列車通過聖哥達基線隧道最高速為250公里
穿過阿爾卑斯山
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Pour la vidéo bien mais dur dur le démarrage merci
Are you a locomotive engineer? Great videos. Very informative. Thanks very much.
Yes I am, otherwise all this wouldn't be possible.
@@RailwayEmotions Sorry, that's not right! I have filmed EVERY railway-line of Switzerland. IT IS POSSIBLE to do it: www.fuehrerstandsmitfahrten.ch/de/ Until in 2 years I'll finish the publicity of all railway-lines. But it was a big work and I needed much time to do it.
@Andreas: Whoever is not permitted in the cab (= nicht fahrdienstlich geprüfte Personen), can't just go in there and film. So either you're a driver yourself and you can film this stuff on the job (like you see here), or you get into the cab with a permission from the company you were filming. Usually this means the driver driving, another driving accompanying you and you, filming, in the cab. I don't know what you did and how you did it, but usually, these cab rides in real life are quite expensive because of the extra personnel needed. So, yes, of course it is possible to book a cab ride and film it, but usually with a bill attached. Or you have some really good connections.
I don't want anybody reading your comment think that they can simply knock on the door and go for a cab ride. As much as I'd love to take a subscriber with me, I can't.
@@RailwayEmotions Indeed , drivers can shoot cab ride videos at little cost and upload them to RUclips. But a professional video maker has to recover costs some how. Given the vast quantity of excellent quality and high resolution videos on RUclips, I'm not sure how much of market exists for DVDs of this nature.
This is what is needed from salmon arm to lake ĺouise
I am wondering how many staff are on a train like this? Does the driver have a co-pilot as it were?
No, we are all alone on freight trains.
OK. Give ma a moment. On the one hand I could be gobsmacked. On the other I'm not surprised. In no way am I suggesting you or any of your colleagues are less than qualified. Granted there could be ticket inspectors on the passenger vehicles, do you run those solo as well? @@RailwayEmotions
No worries, it's not about qualification, it is just the standard here. We're always alone in the cab, except if a colleague is with us for route knowledge or a driver in training is accompanying us, or driving himself under supervision. Long distance (EC, IC, IR) trains always have a train crew, but they're in the back with the passengers and not with us in the cab. Other passenger trains and local S- and R-trains have ticket inspectors on them from time to time, but they also work independent of us and vice versa.
@@RailwayEmotions I quote - 'it is just the standard here.' I could think it's like driving a bus or a big truck, except with regard to this journey just for example, what was it? In excess of 500 meters long, 1500 tons, braking ratio 80%. It speaks volumes about the respect accorded to the position, responsibility, training and skill of drivers, engineers and whoever else.