Imo a lot of them focus too much on the design instead of the quality and functionality of the garment itself. Its probably due to the taobao shops being entirely online and so sales are driven more by the photogenic value of the dress than the functionality
Im a lifestyle gyaru and recently been thinking about trying lolita as a side hobby so to see a service like this makes me so happy since i can't justify spending on brand just yet 🥺💖
I too ordered a dress with Chinese Lolita Updates and they were REALLY easy to use. It was pretty straight forward compared to using a shopping service that required filling out and sending back a spreadsheet (I had to send the spreadsheet link to my roommate for her to fill out on her PC which was super annoying). But I would definitely order from CLU again the future.
I'm pretty new to lolita so you did introduce me to this group. Also a few months ago to lolita in general 😅 Edit: in Germany the threshold is 22 Euros, that's really insane. And shipping gets casually added to your item's value. That's actually the law here 😔
The threshold is actually 26.30€ in Germany because they won't charge you if the import tax would be less than 5€. It's still an annoyance, but you've got to remember that tax is already included in everything you buy in Germany, we're usually just not as aware of it. Real custom charges only apply for items valued 150€ or more.
@@TheSnowBallet You are correct. I am not sure about the exact numbers, but other countries do have things like sales taxes too. And I quite frankly don't understand why they add the shipping to the value of an item, even for a private purchase. For business owners and people who sell the items, it totally makes sense, as they'd add shipping and customs to the price, but if I ever resell those items, I will never get the shipping value back. Even the shipping is often as expensive as the threshold, so ordering anything without customs is virtually impossible. It's the law and I'd never break it, to me it simply makes no sense.
Canadian here... if they give you the option and are willing, you can ask them to mark it as "gift" to avoid fees (But obviously, some places won't do that.) Unfortunately, in my experience, our customs fees are a TOTAL crapshoot; a) Really depends on which courier is used (DHL and UPS will invariably get you full high fees every time, other couriers seem to just depend which customs officer it went through). b) I bought a $500 doll from korea and got less than a $50 customs fee, c) I've bought plenty of things from the US and Japan including $220 shoes from the states and got NO customs fee whatsoever, and yet d) I've also bought some smaller items $20-$40 items (a cd from Japan, a box of pin backs from the states, t-shirts) and gotten about $12-$20 customs fee AND a handling fee on top of that!! I think those were all UPS and DHL. So... in my experience it's impossible to guess and yeah it's super annoying!! The only thing I can do is just avoid UPS and DHL shippers whenever there is any way to know the shipper and usually go for the slowest shipping coz it's not as likely to be courier (I stopped buying from a place I like coz they started using DHL and it's the only shipping option :/ ). Avoiding those two I rarely get fees, but it's still very much up to chance.
yukiko347 I find it weird but then again considering it’s on Facebook they kinda don’t want random spam. The only flaw is that means you have to have some Lolita prior. Or at least from my understanding.
I'm so happy you did this video!! I love their service, most of my recent pieces I've gotten through them. You can even buy pieces that they don't post if you send them the link to what you want and its available.
Chinese Lolita Updates actually started as a SS for the Chicago comm because the founder attended a Chicago university for a few years, and comm members loved the stuff she wore from small lesser-known taobao shops. they're my favorite SS and the founder has dedicated employees/business partners now instead of just doing everything herself. their fees aren't bad either considering how good their service is
This video is really great and informative! I’ve been following Chinese lolita updates for ages and I’ve seen so many cute things! Might order from them soon!
I feel like Taobao is easy when you know exactly which dress you want and have the link, but when you just want to browse lolita stuff for some kind/colour of an item it's really tedious. But I'm glad to see a new video from you. Also, super impressed with the fact that this dress has pockets and seems to be very nice quality.
It’s not hard to find a dress on Taobao though? If you see one on Chinese Lolita Updates that you like, just google “(brand name) Taobao” and look at the shop that comes up. That’s all. Do it on Google Chrome and it will automatically translate the page.
Good to have you back, Lor!!! Also...I am trying to save for the swap meet this Sunday and this is making it very very difficult! Lol But I am happy to see there are more buying options~
Did you get it sent through a courier like FedEx, DHL, etc? Because if so, that $35 would have included the brokerage fees that those companies require, and they are notorious for having high ones here. I tend to get things sent through epacket/e-EMS/EMS, and I rarely get charged fees, as they're handled by Canada Post once they reach Canada, and the workers there are honestly too lazy most of the time to convert what's written on the package if it's not in CAD/USD. Otherwise, the limit to importing is $20. Canada has one of the lowest customs limits in the world, sadly.
@@percivallavoie4415 Depending on the province you're in, you have to either pay GST or HST. Along with that, you pay duty, which is calculated based on the type of item and where it originated from. I'm not sure if those details are listed anywhere specifically.
@@silkfeelingshurt5374 Ew, I'm in Québec so I'll likely have all of the above. Guess I'll find out when I get an email from Soufflesong that my jsk and headbow have shipped
@@percivallavoie4415 I know they offer epacket and EMS, so if you've chosen one of those, we can hope that it sneaks by! As I've said, I almost never get hit with customs that way. Either way, enjoy your new dress. :)
It was a nice surprise to see that you had a new video updated. I just want to make sure that you don't push yourself too much and become overwhelmed. Lovely video and I'll be waiting for the next one!
Omg I didn't even notice that you've been gone from youtube. I've literally just been rewatching old videos and been on your IG 😂😂. Glad your back tho.
*Cries in British* our customs fees start at £15 (around $20) to be fair though they rarely seem to put customs charges on stuff from China. I know Hong Kong at least for the moment is exempt.
What if we don't have EGL reviews , what if were a first time buyer for lolita ? Every time i see cute llolita clothes online i get it and its not good quality so i gave up my search . but , now i really want to get back into it
I haven't used the Chinese Lolita Updates Page shopping service, but just for future reference, if you have a situation in the future where you are under the minimum, the Loki Doki Doki Page is also a shopping service and I don't believe they have a minimum (or at least, I haven't seen one in their FAQ. My last order was well over $50 USD).
1:53 😳 What a look! the collar just looks perfect on you w that dress ♥️🤡 I’m swooning ;0; Thank you for this viddy, too! I feel the same way about Facebook and now I have a reason to actually use it now lol
Canadian customs is a biiiiiiiiitch. I once had someone send me a couple of vintage kimono, labelled clearly AS A GIFT, and they charged me nearly $200 in fees. It's all a little random what they select for verification, but I find things listed just as "clothes" instead of specifics, and things sent with cheaper shipping options tend to be overlooked. Anything sent EMS gets hit for me.
I tried ordering from them around 13 July 2023. The prices quoted on farcebook came to around $170. The price they charged me was $242. I had to question this because $70 on that kind of price is a very suspect mark up. So I asked for a breakdown of prices. Their answer was domestic and international shipping prices, but nothing specific, but there was still an as yet unnamed shipping price yet to come. So once again I questioned this. No reply. After some back and forth I came to the conclusion that they were avoiding answering my questions. It was then I got quite angry and finally started in with colourful language I'm new this all and this was my first attempt at purchasing a Lolita dress. I came away very dissatisfied and feeling like I was seen as a mark for a con!
Is this group page not available to view on mobile devices? The link works perfectly when viewing from my macbook but I can not locate or open it on my iphone 😅😭 Also, do you need to have a reference page or review site (I have never worn or bought lolita and do not know or have whatever it is they are asking for) Thanks in advance!
When you do find out more information about customs and shipping to Canada would you mind posting about it? It's still something that I struggle with. Customs literally steals my soul, and the only way I've found to deal with it is to either make larger orders, or order with a group of people.
As someone who’s considering getting into Lolita the price threshold is tempting but I’m just worried because I’m a bigger girl so I don’t even know if a taobao dress would even fit me, but gosh that dress is gorgeous.
ya custom fees here suck but oh well lol. u can have $20 and lower as gift so you dont get the fee. if it is over $20 you can get the fee no matter if gift or not. it is very random if your the chosen one for fees. if you us fdx or dhl you pretty much get the fee every time if its over $20. Canada post its pretty random if you get it or not. e packet usually i never get it. it can also take up to 30 days for you to receive the fee. so when you get the package without the fee it dosnt mean you got away lol. this is in ON Canada idk about other places in Canada.
i am possibly in a position to ... finally get back into lolita, but its like im completely new. i won't have any feedback link, i'm a bit worried about figuring out how to get into stuff. last time i was buying lolita items livejournal was alive.
I am a Pin Up girl looking to soon start my transition into Lolita as it more suits my style. @Lovely Lor I would love to challenge you by submitting pics of my favorite Pin Up dress and seeing if you can style it as a Lolita jsk. It would be interesting to see the differences of Pin Up and Lolita come together in one coord. Should I submit my pics?
Please don't encourage people to try to avoid customs fees. As annoying as they are, it's illegal to make a fraudulent customs declaration, and if they catch you with one, you will likely be slapped with a fine _in addition to_ having to pay the corrected customs fee.
The US does get hit with custom fees and it's pretty annoying to understand what will get hit or not. I've had been hit with them from dress orders over 20 USD and depending on the content you ca gt hit pretty bad if you import things like alcohol. The only way to not be hit with customs here, is to declare it a gift which forfeits your protection, or have it under 20 which can screw you over with mail insurance
@@oddlyozel I wasn't referring about China, sorry. I've never been hit with customs from them but, I have from places like Canada,Japan and the UK. I was just stating overall The US can get hit with customs.
The thing that I don't like about Chinese Lolita Updates isn't that it is also a shopping service, it is the fact that it is ONLY a shopping service disguising as a lolita updates page. The reason I say this is because they are named Chinese Lolita Updates and initially introduced themselves as that, but unlike other lolita updates pages like the main Lolita Updates, they never post links to the Taobao stores. This at the beginning caused a lot of confusion, as to why an updates page would refuse to post sources, and then of course everyone realized they are a shopping service. Which is fine, but they should just call themselves that, and not an updates page
“I’ve also spent a week with Tyler so we’ll see how that effects me.”
*less than a minute later*
“IT WAS PRETTY FRACKING EASY”
I really like the Chinese brands and designers. They try some really fun and funky designs that you don't usually see with others.
Imo a lot of them focus too much on the design instead of the quality and functionality of the garment itself. Its probably due to the taobao shops being entirely online and so sales are driven more by the photogenic value of the dress than the functionality
God that dress is so lor-core
Please make Lor-core a thing It's something the world needs
HAHA YES
What would be the hallmarks of Lor-Core?
**sees that bust max is 122 cms**
me: **throws wallet at screen**
Im a lifestyle gyaru and recently been thinking about trying lolita as a side hobby so to see a service like this makes me so happy since i can't justify spending on brand just yet 🥺💖
I lost it when I saw the cat with the little hat.
attempting to hit the woah killed me
and then you *HIT THE WOAH* and I died again
Is that pink bear giving me side eye....
I too ordered a dress with Chinese Lolita Updates and they were REALLY easy to use. It was pretty straight forward compared to using a shopping service that required filling out and sending back a spreadsheet (I had to send the spreadsheet link to my roommate for her to fill out on her PC which was super annoying). But I would definitely order from CLU again the future.
I'm pretty new to lolita so you did introduce me to this group. Also a few months ago to lolita in general 😅
Edit: in Germany the threshold is 22 Euros, that's really insane. And shipping gets casually added to your item's value. That's actually the law here 😔
I think it's 22 Euro for the EU, I also think it's insane, and the tax is so high so you're scared to buy anything
@@emiliakumorek9494 it makes buying lolita and j-fashion really difficult, especially if there are no stores near you.
The threshold is actually 26.30€ in Germany because they won't charge you if the import tax would be less than 5€.
It's still an annoyance, but you've got to remember that tax is already included in everything you buy in Germany, we're usually just not as aware of it. Real custom charges only apply for items valued 150€ or more.
@@TheSnowBallet You are correct. I am not sure about the exact numbers, but other countries do have things like sales taxes too. And I quite frankly don't understand why they add the shipping to the value of an item, even for a private purchase. For business owners and people who sell the items, it totally makes sense, as they'd add shipping and customs to the price, but if I ever resell those items, I will never get the shipping value back. Even the shipping is often as expensive as the threshold, so ordering anything without customs is virtually impossible. It's the law and I'd never break it, to me it simply makes no sense.
The limit in England is £16 including postage ; n;
2nd comment! Last time I was this early, Mr Yan was mail-ordering brides
I'm crying
I LOVE HONEY MACHINE!
I ordered my first dress from them (thru taobao and another shipping service) my dress was called Theological Seminary black OP
Canadian here... if they give you the option and are willing, you can ask them to mark it as "gift" to avoid fees (But obviously, some places won't do that.) Unfortunately, in my experience, our customs fees are a TOTAL crapshoot; a) Really depends on which courier is used (DHL and UPS will invariably get you full high fees every time, other couriers seem to just depend which customs officer it went through). b) I bought a $500 doll from korea and got less than a $50 customs fee, c) I've bought plenty of things from the US and Japan including $220 shoes from the states and got NO customs fee whatsoever, and yet d) I've also bought some smaller items $20-$40 items (a cd from Japan, a box of pin backs from the states, t-shirts) and gotten about $12-$20 customs fee AND a handling fee on top of that!! I think those were all UPS and DHL.
So... in my experience it's impossible to guess and yeah it's super annoying!! The only thing I can do is just avoid UPS and DHL shippers whenever there is any way to know the shipper and usually go for the slowest shipping coz it's not as likely to be courier (I stopped buying from a place I like coz they started using DHL and it's the only shipping option :/ ). Avoiding those two I rarely get fees, but it's still very much up to chance.
I find it intresting on them requesting reviews. It makes since and i like the idea of that for that sort of service.
yukiko347 I find it weird but then again considering it’s on Facebook they kinda don’t want random spam. The only flaw is that means you have to have some Lolita prior. Or at least from my understanding.
I'm so happy you did this video!! I love their service, most of my recent pieces I've gotten through them. You can even buy pieces that they don't post if you send them the link to what you want and its available.
Chinese Lolita Updates actually started as a SS for the Chicago comm because the founder attended a Chicago university for a few years, and comm members loved the stuff she wore from small lesser-known taobao shops. they're my favorite SS and the founder has dedicated employees/business partners now instead of just doing everything herself. their fees aren't bad either considering how good their service is
Thank you for posting about this group!! I'll definitely look into them.
This video is really great and informative! I’ve been following Chinese lolita updates for ages and I’ve seen so many cute things! Might order from them soon!
Might consider some dresses from this service in the future, thank you for bringing it to light
I feel like Taobao is easy when you know exactly which dress you want and have the link, but when you just want to browse lolita stuff for some kind/colour of an item it's really tedious. But I'm glad to see a new video from you. Also, super impressed with the fact that this dress has pockets and seems to be very nice quality.
It does feel like an eternity! I'm glad ur back!!♡
Yes! There totally needs to be more pockets in Lolita fashion! I want to start making lolita clothing with pockets and open a store on Etsy!
It’s not hard to find a dress on Taobao though? If you see one on Chinese Lolita Updates that you like, just google “(brand name) Taobao” and look at the shop that comes up. That’s all. Do it on Google Chrome and it will automatically translate the page.
Good to have you back, Lor!!!
Also...I am trying to save for the swap meet this Sunday and this is making it very very difficult! Lol But I am happy to see there are more buying options~
Thank you so much for the info! I ordered 2 items from them and can't wait to receive them :)
Your bow is so cute!
I didn't knew the group was a shopping service either this whole time, omg
I, too, cannot read, because this is news to me
Now I know where I'm gonna spend my future paychecks
Did you get it sent through a courier like FedEx, DHL, etc? Because if so, that $35 would have included the brokerage fees that those companies require, and they are notorious for having high ones here.
I tend to get things sent through epacket/e-EMS/EMS, and I rarely get charged fees, as they're handled by Canada Post once they reach Canada, and the workers there are honestly too lazy most of the time to convert what's written on the package if it's not in CAD/USD.
Otherwise, the limit to importing is $20. Canada has one of the lowest customs limits in the world, sadly.
Do you have any idea how much customs charges per $CAD of merchandise?
@@percivallavoie4415 Depending on the province you're in, you have to either pay GST or HST. Along with that, you pay duty, which is calculated based on the type of item and where it originated from. I'm not sure if those details are listed anywhere specifically.
@@silkfeelingshurt5374 Ew, I'm in Québec so I'll likely have all of the above. Guess I'll find out when I get an email from Soufflesong that my jsk and headbow have shipped
@@percivallavoie4415 I know they offer epacket and EMS, so if you've chosen one of those, we can hope that it sneaks by! As I've said, I almost never get hit with customs that way.
Either way, enjoy your new dress. :)
I shipped with DHL so 😬 will update once I get it (hopefully by January)
Those lashes suit you so much!!!!
SHE'S BACK
It was a nice surprise to see that you had a new video updated. I just want to make sure that you don't push yourself too much and become overwhelmed. Lovely video and I'll be waiting for the next one!
Omg I didn't even notice that you've been gone from youtube. I've literally just been rewatching old videos and been on your IG 😂😂. Glad your back tho.
Happy you're back! All your photos from your haunt job looked so fun.
Watching you try to hit the woah made my day
*Cries in British* our customs fees start at £15 (around $20) to be fair though they rarely seem to put customs charges on stuff from China. I know Hong Kong at least for the moment is exempt.
Thank you for this video, it is really informative, especially for old or new lolita that didn't know this ressource!
Anything declared above 20CAD is subject to customs fees. If it is declared as a gift, then it's 60CAD.
What if we don't have EGL reviews , what if were a first time buyer for lolita ? Every time i see cute llolita clothes online i get it and its not good quality so i gave up my search . but , now i really want to get back into it
Loving the plushie...
I haven't used the Chinese Lolita Updates Page shopping service, but just for future reference, if you have a situation in the future where you are under the minimum, the Loki Doki Doki Page is also a shopping service and I don't believe they have a minimum (or at least, I haven't seen one in their FAQ. My last order was well over $50 USD).
Super cute dress~ I can't wait to see you get or make that hat with it too!
I didn't know I needed Lor attempting to hit the woah in my life until now
What if you don’t have any feedback from something like lacemarket?
....
*ENJOY AND FUN*
ok but your look in this video is hella cute!
1:53 😳 What a look! the collar just looks perfect on you w that dress ♥️🤡 I’m swooning ;0;
Thank you for this viddy, too! I feel the same way about Facebook and now I have a reason to actually use it now lol
Canadian customs is a biiiiiiiiitch. I once had someone send me a couple of vintage kimono, labelled clearly AS A GIFT, and they charged me nearly $200 in fees. It's all a little random what they select for verification, but I find things listed just as "clothes" instead of specifics, and things sent with cheaper shipping options tend to be overlooked. Anything sent EMS gets hit for me.
Yayyyy thank you so much for this video 💜💜
I tried ordering from them around 13 July 2023. The prices quoted on farcebook came to around $170. The price they charged me was $242. I had to question this because $70 on that kind of price is a very suspect mark up. So I asked for a breakdown of prices. Their answer was domestic and international shipping prices, but nothing specific, but there was still an as yet unnamed shipping price yet to come. So once again I questioned this. No reply. After some back and forth I came to the conclusion that they were avoiding answering my questions. It was then I got quite angry and finally started in with colourful language
I'm new this all and this was my first attempt at purchasing a Lolita dress. I came away very dissatisfied and feeling like I was seen as a mark for a con!
what is your eyelash brand? They are so cute
Thank you for the information!!!
Is this group page not available to view on mobile devices? The link works perfectly when viewing from my macbook but I can not locate or open it on my iphone 😅😭 Also, do you need to have a reference page or review site (I have never worn or bought lolita and do not know or have whatever it is they are asking for)
Thanks in advance!
When you do find out more information about customs and shipping to Canada would you mind posting about it? It's still something that I struggle with. Customs literally steals my soul, and the only way I've found to deal with it is to either make larger orders, or order with a group of people.
What's the beef with Squirrels? Did I miss something? Lol
As someone who’s considering getting into Lolita the price threshold is tempting but I’m just worried because I’m a bigger girl so I don’t even know if a taobao dress would even fit me, but gosh that dress is gorgeous.
BTW if you have them mark it as 'gift' or 'sample' it avoids customs!
would you recommend this for new lolitas? :)
It has pockets !
ya custom fees here suck but oh well lol. u can have $20 and lower as gift so you dont get the fee. if it is over $20 you can get the fee no matter if gift or not. it is very random if your the chosen one for fees. if you us fdx or dhl you pretty much get the fee every time if its over $20. Canada post its pretty random if you get it or not. e packet usually i never get it. it can also take up to 30 days for you to receive the fee. so when you get the package without the fee it dosnt mean you got away lol. this is in ON Canada idk about other places in Canada.
You keep saying group, but it's a likeable business page, not a group.
I would love an anime where cute girls dress up in Lolita fashion with bows and magical animals
Oh my GODS it has POCKETS!!!!
Bunny buttons!
i am possibly in a position to ... finally get back into lolita, but its like im completely new. i won't have any feedback link, i'm a bit worried about figuring out how to get into stuff. last time i was buying lolita items livejournal was alive.
I am a Pin Up girl looking to soon start my transition into Lolita as it more suits my style. @Lovely Lor I would love to challenge you by submitting pics of my favorite Pin Up dress and seeing if you can style it as a Lolita jsk. It would be interesting to see the differences of Pin Up and Lolita come together in one coord. Should I submit my pics?
You know what, im submitting it. yolo
🎀 nice dress 💝
Please don't encourage people to try to avoid customs fees. As annoying as they are, it's illegal to make a fraudulent customs declaration, and if they catch you with one, you will likely be slapped with a fine _in addition to_ having to pay the corrected customs fee.
you'll be charged customs if the item is over 18$Canadian.
Love it
Oh no Lor, dont tell me about this
The temptation is too much 😅
you pay customs only when an order is over 60 dollars??? i need to pay a minimum of 18 euros in customs on non-EU orders of over 22 euros TT__TT
The US does get hit with custom fees and it's pretty annoying to understand what will get hit or not. I've had been hit with them from dress orders over 20 USD and depending on the content you ca gt hit pretty bad if you import things like alcohol. The only way to not be hit with customs here, is to declare it a gift which forfeits your protection, or have it under 20 which can screw you over with mail insurance
Woah I've never once in my life has to pay customs and I put stuff online from China all the time.
@@oddlyozel I wasn't referring about China, sorry. I've never been hit with customs from them but, I have from places like Canada,Japan and the UK. I was just stating overall The US can get hit with customs.
@@originalkingdomhearts ohhhh, that makes sense
Fast shipping to Canada always gets duty
They havw cute things i want but i honestly am lost on how to buy from them xD they got a cute skirt but am afraid shipping is too much xD
What's wrong with squirrels?? 😭
The thing that I don't like about Chinese Lolita Updates isn't that it is also a shopping service, it is the fact that it is ONLY a shopping service disguising as a lolita updates page. The reason I say this is because they are named Chinese Lolita Updates and initially introduced themselves as that, but unlike other lolita updates pages like the main Lolita Updates, they never post links to the Taobao stores. This at the beginning caused a lot of confusion, as to why an updates page would refuse to post sources, and then of course everyone realized they are a shopping service. Which is fine, but they should just call themselves that, and not an updates page
Wabbie-chan They technically are updating you on the newest stuff on Taobao
They are a personal page (run by one person, I believe) and are not affiliated with the Lolita Updates group which is run by a team of people.
Fact: lor doesn’t like Facebook
Lor - you should open the side seams and remove the ties, then use them to make a proper head-bow!
OH MY GOSH DO YOU WORK AT DISNEYLAND?
a seasonal job that contracts won't let you talk about, HMMMM.
No, she works at Haunt.
@@yunogasai5975 i know but its nice to dream
2 view and 7 likes...hm...RUclips is drunk. again.
edit: OMG Lor thanks for the
You... lose hearts if you edit your comment :')
I just started out a preorder service as well, feel free to try it out! You can contact me for more details: facebook.com/ClosetforDollz/