Handlebar Roll vs. Harness vs. Top Loader: Which one is best??

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  • Опубликовано: 15 окт 2024

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  • @BIKEPACKINGcom
    @BIKEPACKINGcom  2 года назад +8

    This video was supported by Teravail Tires, Teravail Makes Mountain, Gravel and Road Tires, find more here: www.teravail.com?.com&

  • @JakeLuke308
    @JakeLuke308 2 года назад +13

    I used the Revalate Sweetroll and it always needed tightening. It would almost invariably hang down onto my front wheel. Now I use a dry bag and 3 Voile straps. Cheaper and foolproof.

    • @boyfoxter5614
      @boyfoxter5614 2 года назад

      Why not secure the sweetroll with voile or velcro straps?

    • @JakeLuke308
      @JakeLuke308 2 года назад +1

      @@boyfoxter5614 Well, the sweetroll is heavier, and has attachment straps that would gang down and perhaps get stuck in my wheel. The stuff sack and Voile straps are cleaner and lighter. Plus I had them all before I bought the sweetroll. Just didn't know I could do that.

    • @SimonCher
      @SimonCher Год назад

      Rocking the sweetroll no problems.

  • @MathTeacherMrK
    @MathTeacherMrK 2 года назад +11

    I use the Salsa Anything Cradle. I used it on the Colorado Trail and it worked great! I had attached bags to my bars without the cradle previously and don’t think I’d ever go back. The anything Cradle is awesome for my needs on really rough terrain.

    • @whirving
      @whirving 2 года назад +1

      I have also used the Anything Cradle, it is heavy but very stable and adaptable. Used it on a Toe path gravel trip, and on the Southern Portion of the Oregon Timber Trail on my 29+ for much rougher trails. Never failed me.

  • @Allride_
    @Allride_ 2 года назад +4

    I'm happy with my first purchase, a harness for a dry bag by restrap.
    Instead of the dry bag I put my tent there and it fits perfectly. I tighten the straps in the morning and don't have to think about it until I arrive and put up my tent, even on 180-190km, 110 mile days nothing comes loose

  • @larspetersen2688
    @larspetersen2688 2 года назад +4

    Salsa Anything Cradle, is the best solution at the moment, that everybody knows. But somebody need to come up with something better. By the way thanks for all the great videos on this channel, like the down to earth approach.

  • @k.whiking4372
    @k.whiking4372 2 года назад +4

    I'm really liking this channel, there is lots of very useful information. Thank you.

  • @VeloObscura
    @VeloObscura 2 года назад +1

    I've been using a BXB Goldback for years now and I love it. I use it on my handlebars for MTB Bikepacking and then use it as a traditional saddle bag on my steel tourer for a sort of neo-retro road/gravel touring setup. It's been one of my favorite bike purchases I've ever made!
    I could never get into handlebar rolls, but definitely see their benefits for the right user.

  • @thecappy
    @thecappy 2 года назад +1

    Pronghorn with the detachable egress pocket is my go too. Served me well last couple of years.

    • @kendallhammond4778
      @kendallhammond4778 2 года назад

      This is what I use as well. Very happy with this system

  • @BradRussellisAwesome
    @BradRussellisAwesome 2 года назад +2

    We need to hear more about that Denim Icon shirt you’re wearing, please. Looks 🤌🏻

  • @her0n
    @her0n 2 года назад +4

    Just got an Aeroe handlebar Spider cradle. I think it looks like a really great option for MTB where you risk squashing your brake barrel adjusters, as it holds your bag securely above them.

    • @csn583
      @csn583 8 месяцев назад

      Very happy with mine so far! First use was on the Rubicon with a bag full of tools, spares, spare clothes, and snacks for the day. Short of taking big jumps to flat I don't think you'll find a bigger, chunkier test than that, and it didn't budge. I leave it on full time and just strap on whatever I need for the occasion. I just added voile straps.

  • @daveebert7747
    @daveebert7747 2 года назад

    The second piece of bikepacking bags/carriers I bought was the Revelate Designs Harness. That item has being amazing in the past 5 years of use. Like all their products it is exceptionally well thought out designed and made. It is versatile enough to go from carrying a 20 litre dry bag on my mountain bike to a small shorter bag on my drop bar bike. But I am now lusting after a top loader thanks to this video Neil

  • @kchao35
    @kchao35 2 года назад

    BXB Piccolo is the BEST! Glad i already got one cuz now they’re gonna sell out even faster after this vid! Also love supporting “small” businesses that produce incredible products, keep it up Jay Ritchey!

  • @mukkaar
    @mukkaar 22 дня назад

    Top loader all way. I use frame bag for heavy stuff and some easy access like food, but most bigger stuff I need quickly are on ortileb handlebar bag plus. Stuff like puffer jacket, rain gear and some extra biking gear like thin jacket to stop wind. Its also very handy as shopping bag due to it having fixed mount with quick release.

  • @7gibbens
    @7gibbens 2 года назад +2

    As a long distance bike packing racer I use a small roll up elongated and wedged between my aero bars and cinched with two velcro straps. Very stable and aero. Holds my sleep system and detaches easily.
    Have used this set up on both flat bar mtb and gravel bike drop bars.
    🚴‍♂️🇦🇺👍

  • @taknname
    @taknname 2 года назад

    Two systems for two purposes: A longflap saddle bag on a Surly 8 pack rack (a DIY via Logan's writeup!) or a Revelate Harness. The saddlebag is larger (24L) and is better for long tours or cold weather when I need to carry more gear. The harness is great for lighter and faster more mountain oriented trips. Horses for courses!

  • @cjohnson3836
    @cjohnson3836 2 года назад +1

    I like systems that give me the most options, since I don't like to have to buy a bunch of different things for different tasks. I think the modularity of a harness system puts it ahead of the rest. 1 dry bag? 2-3 dry bags? 1 dry bag + rain fly? Whatever. If you can make it even just approximately cylindrical, you can pack them in without needing a rack. Things like the egress pouch just take it that much further. Top loaders are convenient and I usually keep one on the saddle to carry food + camera stuff. But that's optional and if I had the funds, I'd probably switch to a tailfin set up.

  • @adriantait3525
    @adriantait3525 2 года назад +1

    That's a sharp looking denim Icon your wearing.

  • @jantown
    @jantown 2 года назад

    I've been using the Sweetroll for about 4 years with little issue. I just pack it on the bike and that works great for me (seat bag is removable if I need a raccoon bag) Love that I can just pop my camp chairs the front under the Egress pocket.

  • @RiggerHippie
    @RiggerHippie 2 года назад +1

    Road Runner Jammer Bag...FTW!

  • @hugobci
    @hugobci 2 года назад

    a use a Net to secure a little backpack on the dropbars, with change of clothes, for commuting. This video inspires me tô creste a better system to secure the bag.

  • @gwsaltspring
    @gwsaltspring 2 года назад

    I was expecting at least a mention of the Jack Rack, or whatever it is called. I had the impression that you thought it was pretty cool.
    I liked how it seemed to be versatile. But then again I am in the process of transitioning from single track to trails and am looking to use my light weight kayaking gear (tents, dry bags, sleeping set up...) until I decide which activity to focus on as I get older. (Just turned 64) Solo "soft" bikepacking seems safer than solo ocean kayaking, even shorter distance paddles.
    As much as I love the sea, I may have just answered my own question. LOL Live to ride another day!

    • @mf7513
      @mf7513 2 года назад

      As a Jack Rack kickstarter supporter that’s still waiting for delivery (supply chain and shipping issues), I can see a keeping it off this topic until it arrives.

  • @coreyreeder3549
    @coreyreeder3549 2 года назад

    Such a great video. Helped me decide on the outer shell harness

  • @michaelrowave
    @michaelrowave 2 года назад

    Dude, I didn't know Buffalo Soldiers rode bikes. And there are photos of them crossing streams with bikes, handle bar bags and rifles. I have used rear rack so long I am afraid of front racks but must offer some advantages.

  • @kangsterizer
    @kangsterizer 2 года назад +1

    i use a harness on road bars, dry bag on flat/mtb bars. i prefer flat bar and dry bag by far, its light, simple, 100% waterproof, cheap, but doesnt work well on road bars.

  • @dalevalentine9008
    @dalevalentine9008 2 года назад +1

    Always spot on! Thank you

  • @jeffreyrule8143
    @jeffreyrule8143 2 года назад +1

    Great video. Thank you.

  • @rottieshepcalibre9156
    @rottieshepcalibre9156 2 года назад

    This is my biggest problem 😪 I need to find a good straight bar harness for my tent or a 6 - 10L dry bag.... am coming for your CT record Neil 🤣

    • @csn583
      @csn583 8 месяцев назад

      Aeroe Spider

  • @benclark368
    @benclark368 2 года назад +1

    Neal - what options would you recommend for those using drop bars with areo bars?

  • @kbd13-n9c
    @kbd13-n9c 2 года назад

    Didn’t realize the Piccolo was that big…ended up with a Camp & Go Slow X Swift Zeitgeist

  • @dhruv68
    @dhruv68 Год назад

    Hey hi I really like your videos -
    I am planning a long Himalaya trip and will be going hybrid with rear Ortlieb panniers but I need a stable handlebar bag or top loader for my Surly Jones H bar .. I currently have an Ortlieb handler at roll and but for all the reasons you mentioned it’s not very easy to use. I don’t know where to stash my Sony a600 and other go pro etc. I need them up front.

  • @rneillmojo
    @rneillmojo 2 года назад

    If Andrew K comes in under Sofianes time, does he become the winner of the 2022 tour divide? It was always accepted that itt and grand depart riders are equal. If not, what place would Andrew be considered? Fastest time 2nd place? 3rd place? Confused

  • @sarkisbenliyan1180
    @sarkisbenliyan1180 Год назад

    What harness would you recommend for a Jones Truss fork and H-bar combination????? I have been using an old porcelain Rocket harness and while it is does the job and my drybag rests on the fork instead of the headtube, it's not stable enough in heavy terrain...lots of adjustment needed whilst riding.

  • @joshs2419
    @joshs2419 Год назад

    What bag is on the left side of the thumbnail? I didn’t see it listed on the gear link!

  • @pepper7792
    @pepper7792 Год назад

    Which harness system would you say is the most stable? I will be riding a lot of tech rough trail. Thanks

  • @mendyviola
    @mendyviola 2 года назад

    What do you do when you have an older bike (circa 2000-ish like my women’s step-through Trek 6000) where all the cables are run exteriorly, and you are short so the space under the seat is virtually non-existent, as well as inside the frame? I gave up and just got a Burly Nomad, but it limits me to gravel/double track trails.

  • @andreimarius9695
    @andreimarius9695 Год назад

    What's your take on Apidura ?

  • @DAMN55117
    @DAMN55117 2 года назад

    Great stuff per normal Neil.

  • @Psil0
    @Psil0 2 года назад +1

    Thoughts on the new Ortlieb Handlebar QR compared to other top loader options?

    • @pedalingnowhere
      @pedalingnowhere 2 года назад

      It's completely different. Hard to compare as it's its own thing...

    • @pedalingnowhere
      @pedalingnowhere 2 года назад

      bikepacking.com/gear/ortlieb-handlebar-pack-qr-review/

    • @vergil01202
      @vergil01202 2 года назад

      I really liked it on my 3000 km tour with my drop bar bike last year. Easy access, very stable and durable. Depending on your handlebar, it may be too narrow to fit bottles in the outer nets on the side.

  • @olympic-gradelurker
    @olympic-gradelurker 2 года назад

    I'm rather happy with my Rockbros handlebar bag with accessory bag. I'm going experiment with a handlebar extender so that it doesn't squash my cables, though.

    • @Jaysus145
      @Jaysus145 2 года назад +1

      That is the main reason I have been rolling with the Salsa Anything Cradle - I need some space for the cables, and the Anything Cradle allows for that nicely.

    • @crevasse5396
      @crevasse5396 2 года назад

      I've thought about this as well. Even 2 extenders (one attached to the handlebar, the second attached to the first extender and pointing downward) to create a cradle away from the bars. Cheaper than the salsa for sure, but not sure how stable it would be. One plus is more area for electronics if needed.

  • @Dutcharmytent
    @Dutcharmytent 8 месяцев назад

    I use a dry bag up front.

  • @robertbotta6536
    @robertbotta6536 2 года назад

    Da best! Thank you.

  • @olsmxl6975
    @olsmxl6975 Год назад

    Who makes the cross bar on the handlebar harness?

  • @telefunk225
    @telefunk225 6 месяцев назад

    What rack is that @1:50?

  • @samuraioodon
    @samuraioodon 2 года назад

    I really want this to work for me but I have small frame and aerobars mounted underneath handlebars. Would a drybag on both side fork mounts be better option for me? Considered front rack but maybe not?

    • @JaccoSW
      @JaccoSW 2 года назад +1

      Sounds like the Restrap Race Aero bar bag might be what you are looking for.

    • @samuraioodon
      @samuraioodon 2 года назад +1

      @@JaccoSW yes I did see that but I don’t think I have enough space underneath. Was comfirmed by company, don’t want to purchase at risk not working. 😢

  • @johnunruh1086
    @johnunruh1086 2 года назад +1

    Revelate designs hasn't had Pronghorns for over a year

    • @BIKEPACKINGcom
      @BIKEPACKINGcom  2 года назад

      I've heard, not sure whats going on with that. Good thing there are a lot of other options available.

  • @accountingpadgettbusinesss1298

    check out the brand Arkel for their stuff. Pricey but well made and durable

  • @spagornasm
    @spagornasm 2 года назад +1

    That’s a $324 shirt - it *better* be nice, LOL

    • @mf7513
      @mf7513 2 года назад

      That Bikepacking Collective subscription money must be flowing in….

  • @weozol4065
    @weozol4065 2 года назад

    By simply adding a zipper or a door in the middle of the sausage bags, you basically get a top loader. But it is much easier to make. Big opportunity here for anyone listening.

  • @davidcawthorne7115
    @davidcawthorne7115 7 месяцев назад

    Top loader. Handlebar bag in UK.

  • @bikepackingraiz
    @bikepackingraiz 2 года назад +1

    Mtb bikepacking rutts

  • @donovanrice2671
    @donovanrice2671 Год назад

    RIPPIE products @stayrippie taco party (for sale spring 2023) handlebar harness+dry bag all the way!!! Solid attachment, ease of installation/loading on and off the bike, options for adding accessories/storage on harness… it’s the best I have ever used!