Corrections: The Safariland UBL platform comes in two belt sizes, one for 2" belts and one for 2.25" belts. Almost all battle belts are 1.75" or 2" but the 2.25" version of the UBL (for police style duty belts) is the most common. The video shows a 2.25" UBL low ride; I used zip ties to fill the gap and make it work better with my 1.75" belt. Kind of a shitty hack, but what can you do. The BFG version of the Tourniquet hammock has to be used in conjunction with their med kits or certain molle pouches. It does not attach with a velcro tab like the T-Rex arms TQ carrier. The BFG carrier would not work with my belt setup, and would not work to attach a tourniquet to my plate carrier either.
You know g-code makes belt slide keepers to adjust that. Lol. and yes they are $9.50 plus double to ship. I understand you pain. Believe me. And i really wanted the scorpion short pistol mag pouches.
Love how he just spends shit tons of money to tell us he hates most of the stuff he buys. Saves us time and money, big thanks to u man, appreciate the work and effort u put in.
Yes! That’s why I make my own machine guns and suppressors and SBRs without following the NFA law or register or pay the tax stamp. Freedom is truly amazing! If you have the balls to live like a free American
8:26 Be careful with the 6 oclock position. Never put anything hard there. have heard stories of officers having a cuff pouch there, falling, and breaking their tail bone. soft items only.
Yep. Many a career has been ended by carrying something at the 6 o'clock position. That's why I am really not fan of small of back carry. One bad fall and you have back pain for the rest of your life.
This very thing happened to a friend's father when he was riding a horse overseas (don't recall the reason) and one of his tools around the 6 o'clock position damn near paralyzed him when the horse bucked him off and he landed square on it. He's in a wheelchair but he can still walk somewhat
Cuffs would definitely be a no bueno back there. IFAC is generally squishy enough that it shouldn't be an issue. Do whatever you need to but try and get that IFAC placed where you can get at it with either hand in case one of your hands/arms is compromised/injured.
I found my way around the lack of velcro engagement by going to Walmart and getting some adhesive velcro strips that I put on the holster and back of my pouches.
I did the same, except I grabbed the industrial velcro from Home Depot. You know it's gonna hold good when you peel the wax paper off the adhesive backing and the chemical smell of the glue melts your nose hairs off and makes your eyes burn.
@@fresnel149 I know I’m late to the game, but if you don’t mind me asking just exactly what Velcro did you buy from Home Depot. I’m looking for the exact same thing you have.
@@poweredbyeb The stuff I got is actual Velcro brand, part number 90197, but your specific needs may vary slightly. I originally bought it to slap on the side of a cheap shotgun so I could use shotgun cards as a sidesaddle, it just worked well for this situation too.
Great video. After years and hundreds of waisted dollars, I finally have my setup just right for me. FWIW, my BGF micro trauma now stays put, but I’m also running the (overpriced) preconfigured advanced insert. As others have said, peel and stick Velcro is a god send with two piece belts. My rig for those curious. AWS non-MOLLE belt. No D-ring. From 12 o’clock clockwise: Soil Eater CAT holder with CAT. Safariland mid-ride with QLS, Trex strap, Ragnarok holster. Blue Force Gear Micro Trauma Trex rifle mag on Tek-Lok Two Trex pistol mag on Tek-Lok (forward one angled back)
Hmm. I love how you've been doing gear reviews. Nice to see videos from someone who actually tests gear and finds out what does and doesn't work so I don't have to worry about it as much.
A tip is to add Velcro to the back of whatever your adding to your belt for better engagement. Heavy duty Velcro at Walmart is cheap and works. Agreed on the outrageous shipping charges from G-Code! I just bought a system from them consisting of the carriers and belt with inner belt. The belts good and so are attachments, but they charge the hell out of you for anything and everything. Why not include the inner belt like other companies without an additional $15.
Re: “Velcro engagement.” Just use belt keepers like law enforcement has forever. Works great even when you’re lacking in Velcro engagement. Also, we swear by Safariland QLS because it allows us to train with several weapons platforms without having to disassemble the battle belt each time.
I totally agree about Velcro engagement but my solution was to place adhesive Velcro strips to the back of any components that had a hard, smooth surface on the back like a clip. That took care of the problem.
I feel your pain . I have the blue alpha gear double belt system with molly . I run G - code scorpions,a dump pouch ,a AR500 belt IFAK ,a safariland holster with a drop leg plate and QLS ,for my Glock with a TLR-1 ,and an admin pouch for a cell phone note pad and pen . It also carries a headlamp and small leatherman tool.. I also run thin suspenders that thread through the molly . I seems to help . I’m a 36 waist so I’m lucky to be able to have the room on the belt . My only issue is loosing some Velcro real estate. I plan on resolving this with industrial Velcro tape on the inside of some of my gear that take up any of that gripping surface area. It all works but nothing is perfect . Over all I’m pretty satisfied. It is heavy though . Thank you for your channel.
Bro i love how you keep it real and have no shame at throwing shade at companies like g-code... im subscribed, a no bullshit review and straight to the point
All your talk of “Velcro engagement” is an important issue when it comes to the dual-layer belts. I didn’t even think about it until I had the same issue with my BFG belt. Wish I’d seen your video sooner. It would have helped with my mag pouch choices. Rock on, man!
I wish you would've talked about Velcro more in this one 😂 I've been thinking about setting up a battle belt and this was super helpful in seeing what's worked and hasn't worked for you. Thanks Hop!
Use velcro one wrap to attach molle pouches to the belt, you will get 100% velcro engagement all the way around and it's rock solid. It works really well with Esstac Kywi pouches.
A good friend of mine served and when he got back he gave me some BDUs and a Crye AVS warbelt. I did not realize what it was worth but I'm extremely grateful that he removed the picking process. The ability to throw it on over anything and go is great and there's just naturally crazy room.
Good job. The only video I’ve found so far that lets you know that these systems are complicated and don’t often work together. Now I don’t feel as stupid about ordering things that don’t work with what I have. Thank you.
In the army I used a blackhawk patrol belt. Made my load out much more comfortable especially with a pack. Had three mags a drop pouch and a utility pouch on there. It also doubled as a bandolier type system if needed. Oh and a pillow at times!
I liked your vid. As a cheaper but acceptable alternative I run the following. A nylon Condor gun belt. I removed the their pistol mag pouches. On the right I put a Sherpa level one holster to secure the weapon and make the movement of the belt during removal of the firearm minimal. Behind that I have a single MOLLE 556 pouch with bungee retention, again with minimal movement of the belt during removal of the mag. That pouch has 1 inch pals web on the front allowing a frag pouch to be attached to it for small binos, etc. Following that an IFAK. I leave the rear slick but have been attaching a Vietnam Nam style buttpack to it for other kit priorities. On the left side of the belt I have a side by side double AR mag pouch with Kangaroo pistol mag pouches attached with bungee retention of the mags. Then a dump pouch. Roughly 3 lbs on either hip. Water is carried in a small back pack pack which can be removed. My DIY front chest rig / Dynema Battle steel level 3 plate carrier carries 3 additional mags. The plate can also be stored in the small back pack when not needed. Rain Jacket and or mid wt warmth layer ( Wiggys field coat liner ) goes in the pack. Police belt keepers can also attach the Condor belt to you regular belt.
I personally use Velcro One Wrap to attach all my pouches so I don't lose any velcro engagement. Works for me. Secondly the best reason to have a QLS (as a non pewtube reviewer) is to be able to remove your holster when going to public ranges. Some that I've been to won't let you even have an empty holster on your belt, but if you take it off with the QLS you can still practice reloads from the belt.
If you havent checked out HSGI they have an inner and outer belt setup like yours and their belt mount taco pouches are made so you dont loose any velcro engagement. Im pretty sure their belt mount tacos will still work with your inner/outer belt setup.
Great video packed full of great info. Thanks! QLS is good for competition rigs since you can change up gear to shoot in a different competition class without the extra money required to maintain multiple belt rigs.
If you are concerned about velcro engagement you can used adhesive velcro strips on the clips/ belt loops of pouches to engage with the inner belt. I have done this with the various tecklocks that I use on my duty belt and it works very well.
You ever going to do a video related to your various AR's / setups? Looks like you have a few different ones so I think it would be interesting to hear what you have to say about what you like / don't like about them.
I run the g-code w/ thigh strap and blue alpha belt. I put a piece of industrial 3M stick-on Velcro onto the inside of the rig. That piece of Velcro gives Velcro engagement to the inner belt, it works great. You can do the same thing with other pouches. Kinetic Consulting and Flatline collaborated on the best dump pouch ever made. It mounts behind any other pouch, using the other pouches molle or one-wrap. Rolls up tight under it when not it use and has a quick release tab. It also has interior features that convert it to an additional gear pouch if needed. I've been running it for a few months now and love it. It takes up no additional belt space and doesn't affect Velcro engagement. I highly recommend it.
Awesome vid! It is obvious you spent some time on it and we appreciate your candor. Snake Eater Tactical: They solved the problem of velcro engagement. Also your problem of having a small waist/real estate by incorporating a pistol/rifle mag IN the dump pouch. There are so many war belts out there..so hard to keep up and your video helped a lot, thanks!
This was so insightful I sub'd half way through the video. Wish this video was around last year. It's refreshing to hear why something works or doesn't work in practical application rather than a "buy this new hotness" sales pitch. Thanks!
The QLS system on the Safariland are for use with LEO. so you can enter an area where no firearm is allow i.e. a prison. That way you can leave your belt on and leave your gun locked up while in the facility
I’m not gonna lie you drop some great knowledge like that zip tie trick when I first starting watching RUclips gun videos you struck me as James little brother who’s mom told that if he wanted to make RUclips videos he has to help you make them too but you grew on me man to one of my favorites 🙌🙌
Solid video. Regarding the Velcro engagement issue you can get adhesive backed Velcro strips and cut them to fit on the pieces covering the belts Velcro. Onewrap straps can be used to mount some pouches.
I’ve never thought much about a battle belt. I’m a spunky old man but really concerned now about the SHTF. Your video is good at giving out the info of the items and the honest review of each. Gives me a direction where to start!
My wife and I both use Condor's SLIM battle belt. It's AWESOME. She uses a Safariland holster and medium drop UBL, while I use a Blackhawk Serpa with a Blackhawk medium drop jacket slot belt loop.
After a frustratingly long trial/error period I’ve settled on 2 belts. One is a HSGI Slim padded belt and the other is a Blue Alpha inner/outer belt. The HSGI I have have fully kitted out and the BA is more minimal. It’s been working for me so far.
Safariland QLS is pretty nice. Very secure, and doesn't really add much thickness. You may shirk it for being something for gear reviewers to swap holsters, but it's nice if you already own other Safariland holsters since they all use the same bolt pattern (unlike G-code's system apparently). Inexpensive enough to just have on your different platforms to swap any holsters around (i.e. different belts or other gear). Highly recommend a deeper look at it!
Something I tried with the tq with the elastic retainers it to put it at the 12 o'clock. It's unused real estate and easier to access for me with both hands. Another gear option is the snake eater tactical dump pouch. It has a pass through for a mag pouch to sit in it and you won't lose any belt space.
If you want velcro engagement check out the Arbor Arms SALT belt. It's a 2-2.5 belt system where you have the standard liner but the outer belt is a sleeve over a full cobra belt with full (I think) size molle. The sleeve has flap sections so where you want to attach to the belt you can expose it and then use clips without covering the male velcro on the sleeve. Pretty neat if a little bulky from the extra layer of fabric but IMO pretty good.
I'm also running the gcode rti system. I have one gcode holster the rest are either Odin or something different but all offer the hanger system which is nice. Just made the change from a big stiff web belt to the blue alpha MOLLE double belt. Instead of doubling up with the inner Velcro I've chosen to try the wilder minimalist belt bad. All of my mag pouches are teklok so I would only get about 40% Velcro contact..
I started buying tier 1 holsters for my ccw and I absolutely love them. Started putting together my battle belt and went with a owb tier 1 and so far it’s pretty nice.
Mega late to the party on this, but whatever: for LEO purposes, the QLS system is awesome. I can stow my gun in a jail or court lock box without ever having to take it out of the holster. Also allows for swapping my duty holster between my duty belt and my range belt, since I have to keep my leather gear polished for uniform standards and I hate fucking it up on the range. The offset also allows for an easier draw past body armor. I feel like it's more purpose built for that type of application, since Safariland's biggest market is LE. Just food for thought.
Good info. I bought a cheap belt with a drop leg holster just to see what having a belt would be like and to help me decide what I really wanted when I bought a good one. Thanks for the help.
Best video thus far explaining gear in general and it's great to hear someone is as picky as I am on the details. I look forward to watching your other videos, I hope you did one about plate carriers and chest harnesses as that has been an expensive and pain in the ass experience for me (mainly because I hate velco and Esstac discontinued their chest rigs that have the QD's and zipper/buckles)
I use velcro one wrap in place of malice clips and wtf straps and all the other stuff. It doesn't decrease your velcro engagement because it also engages with the velcro!
I run the crye AVS belt for when Im training with my crye cpc which has two PRC152s ans level IV plates, so the extra loadbearing support does help, but Im getting ready to set up a single comm JPC 2.0 and having a slimline battle belt. In my experience it helps to keep rifle mags off the belt because they will impede with a plate carrier. So setting up a belt for use with elastic cummerbunds or no cummerbunds or no carrier at all can be a valid reason for rifle mags on the belt.
This damn near exactly mirrors my experience in setting up my belt. I went with Lead Devil instead of BAG though. The only difference in opinion is with the mag pouches. I love Esstac's rifle mag pouches, but I go back and forth between G17 and G21 mags (depending on whether it's patrol or SWAT). This makes the KYWI's less than ideal due to the added bulk that the G21 mags have. The Scorpions would work well for this purpose, along with Tyr and HSGI mag pouches. Also, since I have to have the ability to change holsters for different guns and rigs, Safariland's QLS is a useful option. But like you said, this isn't a consideration for most folks.
@@Hoplopfheil I'm not saying we ban all belts, but we need common sense belt control. Nobody needs a military-style belt to hold their pants up. Ridiculous.
I like this, subbed. Liked. Its straight forward, no holds barred review. Its what you need to hear when you need to learn things quick when shtf. Great content.
I fuckin love you dude, you need way more subs, your channel is what the community needs, someone who will have a conversation rather than talk at me. Love your content make more
I just picked up a Battle/Training belt from Sentry. Have it set up with the same set up as yours. Minus the tourniquet holder. I keep 2 tourniquets in my IFAK's. An that is placed on the back of the belt. Plus an IFAK in the car. And another one in the range bag. I payed Just over $300 for the whole set up. If in ya didn't know, Sentry is the makers of the Hexmag. Thanks for the share! Edit: I'm running the Blackhawk Omnivore. This works great with a bunch of different pistols, and my O-light PL-2 Pro's.
Put some strips of adhesive industrial velcro on back of belt clips. Makes up for lost real estate for secure belt attachment. I'm currently in the process of deconstructing one of my rigid EDC belts and creating my own. It will be a 1.5", double layer scuba webbing, with molle, cobra buckle and probably velcro on the inside for belt loop style attachment clips. I Dont see the need for a double belt system.
I know this is an old video, but the best part about the QLS that I've noticed in the military has little to do with swapping out different guns, but everything to do with wearing your belt all day, and you want to take off the pistol to put it on your desk while you work in the TOC or do admin moves in vehicles etc.
Get a roll of 3m velcro for the Velcro belts. Place little velcro squares on your pouch clips so they still engage the belt velcro. It's a game changer.
I have a padded single layer War Belt. It is nice and it works, but I’m thinking about getting a double layer velcro one as well. I use MOLLE attached everything so I wouldn’t have a problem with “velcro engagement”
This looks like it was recorded up here in the PNW. In fact, part of that looks like it was near the Carbon River. Yeah, G-Code also has some weird positioning with their belt attachments as well. I have one holster I really like but the belt attachment sucks. It kicks the butt of the gun out off the body way further than necessary and seems to place the slide and center point rather than closer to the vertical center of the grip.
Basically any problem with velcro engagement can be solved with a couple of belt keepers. They're what cops used before Velcro belts were the thing, and they're still the best fucking tool ever
For the issue of the gcode sagging get some sticky velcro for it. I did the same for all my kywi pouches so I have more velcro engagement. a mid rise is the way to go. And a trex strap. Qls or not. I have plenty of pistols to swap between so it is helpful.
This was a fantastic video! And I totally agree with the Velcro mentions. That’s actually one of my worries as I order stuff, losing structural integrity. I appreciate the insight amigo
Corrections:
The Safariland UBL platform comes in two belt sizes, one for 2" belts and one for 2.25" belts. Almost all battle belts are 1.75" or 2" but the 2.25" version of the UBL (for police style duty belts) is the most common. The video shows a 2.25" UBL low ride; I used zip ties to fill the gap and make it work better with my 1.75" belt. Kind of a shitty hack, but what can you do.
The BFG version of the Tourniquet hammock has to be used in conjunction with their med kits or certain molle pouches. It does not attach with a velcro tab like the T-Rex arms TQ carrier. The BFG carrier would not work with my belt setup, and would not work to attach a tourniquet to my plate carrier either.
Thanks Hop, very cool!
Do you prefer the ubi or would you rather have a teklok attachment?
You know g-code makes belt slide keepers to adjust that. Lol. and yes they are $9.50 plus double to ship. I understand you pain. Believe me. And i really wanted the scorpion short pistol mag pouches.
Does the velcro hook abrade your belt loops? Do both of these belts have loop velcro on the inner belt and hook velcro on the outer belt?
35"
Sucks buying pants, 34 little too snug, 36 a little too loose.
Love how he just spends shit tons of money to tell us he hates most of the stuff he buys. Saves us time and money, big thanks to u man, appreciate the work and effort u put in.
Thanks to the quarantine, I've increased the available real estate on my battle belt by about an AR mags worth.
That ain't good
It’s free real estate
Jesus, by this logic I should be able to put Lake City's 2020 production of 5.56 around my waist lol
Maybe replace that with a chest rig instead 😂
Run tubby tubby, RUN
9:07 "I'm civillian,and i can do whatever i want." That's the spirit.
Yes! That’s why I make my own machine guns and suppressors and SBRs without following the NFA law or register or pay the tax stamp. Freedom is truly amazing! If you have the balls to live like a free American
@@sendit7922 God speed bröther
@@sendit7922 keep a close eye on your dog
@@sendit7922 *ATF taking notes*
@@NOPEFROG don’t have one, so I guess I’m in the clear.
"... I'm kind of fucking sick of G-Code." LOL... Gold.
Man I love your dry humor and overall manner in which you explain things. Honestly you could explain anything and keep my ADHD-level of attention.
Subbed for this exact reason, ADHD attention included
@@poemanx7297 lol glad I'm not alone :P
I third this reply @Magnan imus
For once, I'm happy about having a waist size that offers lots and lots of Velcro engagement.
I'm a 29 32...I'm lucky I can put a holster and spare mag on my belt lol!
I am with you on that one...LOL! 38" here, covers for most equipment needs at once! LOL
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Birthing hips as they used to call them.
LOL
8:26 Be careful with the 6 oclock position. Never put anything hard there. have heard stories of officers having a cuff pouch there, falling, and breaking their tail bone. soft items only.
Tailbone if you're lucky. If you aren't, you could be looking at spinal-cord damage or up to paralysis.
Yep. Many a career has been ended by carrying something at the 6 o'clock position. That's why I am really not fan of small of back carry. One bad fall and you have back pain for the rest of your life.
This very thing happened to a friend's father when he was riding a horse overseas (don't recall the reason) and one of his tools around the 6 o'clock position damn near paralyzed him when the horse bucked him off and he landed square on it.
He's in a wheelchair but he can still walk somewhat
Cuffs would definitely be a no bueno back there. IFAC is generally squishy enough that it shouldn't be an issue. Do whatever you need to but try and get that IFAC placed where you can get at it with either hand in case one of your hands/arms is compromised/injured.
Reading this and the replies I think I might strap a small pillow there
Finally someone not afraid to throw a less than adequate company under the bus. Got a sub. Hope the channel grow to everything you want!
I found my way around the lack of velcro engagement by going to Walmart and getting some adhesive velcro strips that I put on the holster and back of my pouches.
This is exactly what I did my belt isn't going no where.
That’s a good idea!
I did the same, except I grabbed the industrial velcro from Home Depot. You know it's gonna hold good when you peel the wax paper off the adhesive backing and the chemical smell of the glue melts your nose hairs off and makes your eyes burn.
@@fresnel149 I know I’m late to the game, but if you don’t mind me asking just exactly what Velcro did you buy from Home Depot. I’m looking for the exact same thing you have.
@@poweredbyeb The stuff I got is actual Velcro brand, part number 90197, but your specific needs may vary slightly. I originally bought it to slap on the side of a cheap shotgun so I could use shotgun cards as a sidesaddle, it just worked well for this situation too.
Hop: What is rattling around in the front of my tahoe?
Hops auto mechanic finds 556 brass behind grill. 😉
I find mine in the area beneath the wiper blades!
Final clip shows this nicely
Subbed. That was an excellent narrative of the g-code experience.
That sounds all well and good, but what about velcro engagement?
Great video. After years and hundreds of waisted dollars, I finally have my setup just right for me. FWIW, my BGF micro trauma now stays put, but I’m also running the (overpriced) preconfigured advanced insert. As others have said, peel and stick Velcro is a god send with two piece belts.
My rig for those curious.
AWS non-MOLLE belt. No D-ring.
From 12 o’clock clockwise:
Soil Eater CAT holder with CAT.
Safariland mid-ride with QLS, Trex strap, Ragnarok holster.
Blue Force Gear Micro Trauma
Trex rifle mag on Tek-Lok
Two Trex pistol mag on Tek-Lok (forward one angled back)
Hmm. I love how you've been doing gear reviews. Nice to see videos from someone who actually tests gear and finds out what does and doesn't work so I don't have to worry about it as much.
I love my blue alpha gear larp...I mean battle belt. I use it to run USPSA competitions and wear it while playing call of duty
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That's funny
A tip is to add Velcro to the back of whatever your adding to your belt for better engagement. Heavy duty Velcro at Walmart is cheap and works.
Agreed on the outrageous shipping charges from G-Code! I just bought a system from them consisting of the carriers and belt with inner belt. The belts good and so are attachments, but they charge the hell out of you for anything and everything. Why not include the inner belt like other companies without an additional $15.
This is seriously one of the best videos on battle belts and set-ups. Good job
How about a similar one on plate carriers?
Re: “Velcro engagement.” Just use belt keepers like law enforcement has forever. Works great even when you’re lacking in Velcro engagement. Also, we swear by Safariland QLS because it allows us to train with several weapons platforms without having to disassemble the battle belt each time.
I totally agree about Velcro engagement but my solution was to place adhesive Velcro strips to the back of any components that had a hard, smooth surface on the back like a clip. That took care of the problem.
I feel your pain . I have the blue alpha gear double belt system with molly . I run G - code scorpions,a dump pouch ,a AR500 belt IFAK ,a safariland holster with a drop leg plate and QLS ,for my Glock with a TLR-1 ,and an admin pouch for a cell phone note pad and pen . It also carries a headlamp and small leatherman tool.. I also run thin suspenders that thread through the molly . I seems to help . I’m a 36 waist so I’m lucky to be able to have the room on the belt . My only issue is loosing some Velcro real estate. I plan on resolving this with industrial Velcro tape on the inside of some of my gear that take up any of that gripping surface area. It all works but nothing is perfect . Over all I’m pretty satisfied. It is heavy though . Thank you for your channel.
Bro i love how you keep it real and have no shame at throwing shade at companies like g-code... im subscribed, a no bullshit review and straight to the point
All your talk of “Velcro engagement” is an important issue when it comes to the dual-layer belts. I didn’t even think about it until I had the same issue with my BFG belt. Wish I’d seen your video sooner. It would have helped with my mag pouch choices. Rock on, man!
Go buy velcro from Joanne's or Walmart and apply it to the pouches. Works like a charm
This is the absolute best BBelt review I have ever seen. Thank you Sir. Well done
I wish you would've talked about Velcro more in this one 😂 I've been thinking about setting up a battle belt and this was super helpful in seeing what's worked and hasn't worked for you. Thanks Hop!
Best vid on belt setup yet. I've come back to it 3 or 4 times while setting up my current belt. Well done n ty
"It's a little fucken cold out here. Beep." Man, I can feel that vibe from here.
Dude, remains me of a grown up version of John Connor from T2 Judgement Day
Finally a positive comment about his appearance!
You are right! Plus this guy really knows his business!
as he was supposed to end up..
He kind of looks like a mix of young david hasselhoff and milspec monkey.
His lips are very small.
Refreshingly honest, informative and at times humorous. Thank you for putting this together.
Your videos are denser with info I actually care about and velcro engagement is important to my set up too.
Use velcro one wrap to attach molle pouches to the belt, you will get 100% velcro engagement all the way around and it's rock solid. It works really well with Esstac Kywi pouches.
This is the gods honest truth. ^^^
A good friend of mine served and when he got back he gave me some BDUs and a Crye AVS warbelt. I did not realize what it was worth but I'm extremely grateful that he removed the picking process. The ability to throw it on over anything and go is great and there's just naturally crazy room.
Good job. The only video I’ve found so far that lets you know that these systems are complicated and don’t often work together. Now I don’t feel as stupid about ordering things that don’t work with what I have. Thank you.
In the army I used a blackhawk patrol belt. Made my load out much more comfortable especially with a pack. Had three mags a drop pouch and a utility pouch on there. It also doubled as a bandolier type system if needed. Oh and a pillow at times!
Gear has been exactly what’s on my mind lately (which is unusual for me honestly). More videos like this please.
I liked your vid. As a cheaper but acceptable alternative I run the following. A nylon Condor gun belt. I removed the their pistol mag pouches. On the right I put a Sherpa level one holster to secure the weapon and make the movement of the belt during removal of the firearm minimal. Behind that I have a single MOLLE 556 pouch with bungee retention, again with minimal movement of the belt during removal of the mag. That pouch has 1 inch pals web on the front allowing a frag pouch to be attached to it for small binos, etc. Following that an IFAK. I leave the rear slick but have been attaching a Vietnam Nam style buttpack to it for other kit priorities. On the left side of the belt I have a side by side double AR mag pouch with Kangaroo pistol mag pouches attached with bungee retention of the mags. Then a dump pouch. Roughly 3 lbs on either hip. Water is carried in a small back pack pack which can be removed. My DIY front chest rig / Dynema Battle steel level 3 plate carrier carries 3 additional mags. The plate can also be stored in the small back pack when not needed. Rain Jacket and or mid wt warmth layer ( Wiggys field coat liner ) goes in the pack. Police belt keepers can also attach the Condor belt to you regular belt.
Why do you not post more videos? Your format is way better than the other gun channels. Quick and to the point. These are the best reviews.
I personally use Velcro One Wrap to attach all my pouches so I don't lose any velcro engagement. Works for me. Secondly the best reason to have a QLS (as a non pewtube reviewer) is to be able to remove your holster when going to public ranges. Some that I've been to won't let you even have an empty holster on your belt, but if you take it off with the QLS you can still practice reloads from the belt.
If you havent checked out HSGI they have an inner and outer belt setup like yours and their belt mount taco pouches are made so you dont loose any velcro engagement. Im pretty sure their belt mount tacos will still work with your inner/outer belt setup.
I took a shot of water each time you said "velcro engagement" and now i'm fully hydrated.
Great video packed full of great info. Thanks!
QLS is good for competition rigs since you can change up gear to shoot in a different competition class without the extra money required to maintain multiple belt rigs.
If you are concerned about velcro engagement you can used adhesive velcro strips on the clips/ belt loops of pouches to engage with the inner belt. I have done this with the various tecklocks that I use on my duty belt and it works very well.
Damn, this was the most informational belt video with real world trials I’ve seen. Great content.
You ever going to do a video related to your various AR's / setups? Looks like you have a few different ones so I think it would be interesting to hear what you have to say about what you like / don't like about them.
Yep I plan to at some point.
I run the g-code w/ thigh strap and blue alpha belt. I put a piece of industrial 3M stick-on Velcro onto the inside of the rig. That piece of Velcro gives Velcro engagement to the inner belt, it works great. You can do the same thing with other pouches. Kinetic Consulting and Flatline collaborated on the best dump pouch ever made. It mounts behind any other pouch, using the other pouches molle or one-wrap. Rolls up tight under it when not it use and has a quick release tab. It also has interior features that convert it to an additional gear pouch if needed. I've been running it for a few months now and love it. It takes up no additional belt space and doesn't affect Velcro engagement. I highly recommend it.
Awesome vid! It is obvious you spent some time on it and we appreciate your candor. Snake Eater Tactical: They solved the problem of velcro engagement. Also your problem of having a small waist/real estate by incorporating a pistol/rifle mag IN the dump pouch. There are so many war belts out there..so hard to keep up and your video helped a lot, thanks!
This was so insightful I sub'd half way through the video. Wish this video was around last year. It's refreshing to hear why something works or doesn't work in practical application rather than a "buy this new hotness" sales pitch. Thanks!
I appreciate your info dude! Being a veteran, I never watch civilians talk about weapons, but your shit is awesome.
The QLS system on the Safariland are for use with LEO. so you can enter an area where no firearm is allow i.e. a prison. That way you can leave your belt on and leave your gun locked up while in the facility
You ever try and put velcro pads to the back of your pouches to increase the “velcro engagement.”
I’m not gonna lie you drop some great knowledge like that zip tie trick when I first starting watching RUclips gun videos you struck me as James little brother who’s mom told that if he wanted to make RUclips videos he has to help you make them too but you grew on me man to one of my favorites 🙌🙌
Solid video. Regarding the Velcro engagement issue you can get adhesive backed Velcro strips and cut them to fit on the pieces covering the belts Velcro. Onewrap straps can be used to mount some pouches.
I’ve never thought much about a battle belt. I’m a spunky old man but really concerned now about the SHTF. Your video is good at giving out the info of the items and the honest review of each. Gives me a direction where to start!
Lol g code holster sounds like a nightmare. Best overall belt video so far. Very detailed and informative
you can super glue some velcro strips onto the back of your belt clips, etc., that will increase your "velrco engagement"
My wife and I both use Condor's SLIM battle belt. It's AWESOME. She uses a Safariland holster and medium drop UBL, while I use a Blackhawk Serpa with a Blackhawk medium drop jacket slot belt loop.
Me: “yeah my belt has molle”
My friend: “that’s pretty coo…”
Me: ‘railing a line off my belt’ “fuck yeeeeahhhh”
After a frustratingly long trial/error period I’ve settled on 2 belts. One is a HSGI Slim padded belt and the other is a Blue Alpha inner/outer belt. The HSGI I have have fully kitted out and the BA is more minimal. It’s been working for me so far.
Safariland QLS is pretty nice. Very secure, and doesn't really add much thickness. You may shirk it for being something for gear reviewers to swap holsters, but it's nice if you already own other Safariland holsters since they all use the same bolt pattern (unlike G-code's system apparently). Inexpensive enough to just have on your different platforms to swap any holsters around (i.e. different belts or other gear). Highly recommend a deeper look at it!
I've watched this video probably 10 times so far now that I'm building a gunbelt of my own. Appreciate ya.
Thank you so much for going in depth into things most reviewers skip! You saved me a lot of money and mistakes
Something I tried with the tq with the elastic retainers it to put it at the 12 o'clock. It's unused real estate and easier to access for me with both hands. Another gear option is the snake eater tactical dump pouch. It has a pass through for a mag pouch to sit in it and you won't lose any belt space.
If you want velcro engagement check out the Arbor Arms SALT belt. It's a 2-2.5 belt system where you have the standard liner but the outer belt is a sleeve over a full cobra belt with full (I think) size molle. The sleeve has flap sections so where you want to attach to the belt you can expose it and then use clips without covering the male velcro on the sleeve. Pretty neat if a little bulky from the extra layer of fabric but IMO pretty good.
Thanks! Plenty to think about--especially height over bore when shooting around your truck...
Get a Negative cant adapter with a TQ holder. Best safariland holster set I use on my duty belt (sig p320) and my get home kit. (G45)
Great vid Hop! My grab and go setup is sadly stuck in the 90’s. This is inspiration to give it an overdue upgrade.
I'm also running the gcode rti system. I have one gcode holster the rest are either Odin or something different but all offer the hanger system which is nice. Just made the change from a big stiff web belt to the blue alpha MOLLE double belt. Instead of doubling up with the inner Velcro I've chosen to try the wilder minimalist belt bad. All of my mag pouches are teklok so I would only get about 40% Velcro contact..
I started buying tier 1 holsters for my ccw and I absolutely love them. Started putting together my battle belt and went with a owb tier 1 and so far it’s pretty nice.
Mega late to the party on this, but whatever: for LEO purposes, the QLS system is awesome. I can stow my gun in a jail or court lock box without ever having to take it out of the holster. Also allows for swapping my duty holster between my duty belt and my range belt, since I have to keep my leather gear polished for uniform standards and I hate fucking it up on the range. The offset also allows for an easier draw past body armor. I feel like it's more purpose built for that type of application, since Safariland's biggest market is LE. Just food for thought.
Good info. I bought a cheap belt with a drop leg holster just to see what having a belt would be like and to help me decide what I really wanted when I bought a good one. Thanks for the help.
5:53 You sir have got my sub.
Just saw this and subscribed myself. I'll be watching and waiting for more info. Good stuff!
Best video thus far explaining gear in general and it's great to hear someone is as picky as I am on the details. I look forward to watching your other videos, I hope you did one about plate carriers and chest harnesses as that has been an expensive and pain in the ass experience for me (mainly because I hate velco and Esstac discontinued their chest rigs that have the QD's and zipper/buckles)
I was sad to see James leave TFBTV but the more I watch this guy, the more I like him
6:10 you could always buy Velcro and put it on the plastic of the holster for some extra rigidity
The addition of a yoke, will make your battle belt, a lot more functional and distribute weight better.
I use velcro one wrap in place of malice clips and wtf straps and all the other stuff. It doesn't decrease your velcro engagement because it also engages with the velcro!
This was the most informative, straight to the point video I've seen in a long time. Well done, sir!
I run the crye AVS belt for when Im training with my crye cpc which has two PRC152s ans level IV plates, so the extra loadbearing support does help, but Im getting ready to set up a single comm JPC 2.0 and having a slimline battle belt. In my experience it helps to keep rifle mags off the belt because they will impede with a plate carrier. So setting up a belt for use with elastic cummerbunds or no cummerbunds or no carrier at all can be a valid reason for rifle mags on the belt.
This damn near exactly mirrors my experience in setting up my belt. I went with Lead Devil instead of BAG though.
The only difference in opinion is with the mag pouches. I love Esstac's rifle mag pouches, but I go back and forth between G17 and G21 mags (depending on whether it's patrol or SWAT). This makes the KYWI's less than ideal due to the added bulk that the G21 mags have. The Scorpions would work well for this purpose, along with Tyr and HSGI mag pouches.
Also, since I have to have the ability to change holsters for different guns and rigs, Safariland's QLS is a useful option. But like you said, this isn't a consideration for most folks.
i like your videos not just for the info and insight, but for the humor as well. thank you
One of the realist channels on the tube.. new sub here from west texas
We need to ban these *Tactical* *Assault* *Belts* with 30 *Boolet* *Clipazines*
Civilians don't need THREE rows of webbing!
@@Hoplopfheil I'm not saying we ban all belts, but we need common sense belt control. Nobody needs a military-style belt to hold their pants up. Ridiculous.
@@BradleyStegall I'm voting for common sense nylon control. Are you?
@@Hoplopfheil And once we have those nylon weapons of war off our streets, we can start dealing with the scourge of polyester!
Aren't those horrible Tactical Combat Pants also somewhat related to Weapons of Ass Destruction?
I like this, subbed. Liked. Its straight forward, no holds barred review. Its what you need to hear when you need to learn things quick when shtf. Great content.
I fuckin love you dude, you need way more subs, your channel is what the community needs, someone who will have a conversation rather than talk at me. Love your content make more
Good funny commentary. I like how you are just like us trying gear out. Good info
Nice parting shot
I just picked up a Battle/Training belt from Sentry. Have it set up with the same set up as yours. Minus the tourniquet holder. I keep 2 tourniquets in my IFAK's. An that is placed on the back of the belt. Plus an IFAK in the car. And another one in the range bag. I payed Just over $300 for the whole set up. If in ya didn't know, Sentry is the makers of the Hexmag. Thanks for the share! Edit: I'm running the Blackhawk Omnivore. This works great with a bunch of different pistols, and my O-light PL-2 Pro's.
Put some strips of adhesive industrial velcro on back of belt clips. Makes up for lost real estate for secure belt attachment. I'm currently in the process of deconstructing one of my rigid EDC belts and creating my own. It will be a 1.5", double layer scuba webbing, with molle, cobra buckle and probably velcro on the inside for belt loop style attachment clips. I Dont see the need for a double belt system.
I know this is an old video, but the best part about the QLS that I've noticed in the military has little to do with swapping out different guns, but everything to do with wearing your belt all day, and you want to take off the pistol to put it on your desk while you work in the TOC or do admin moves in vehicles etc.
Get a roll of 3m velcro for the Velcro belts. Place little velcro squares on your pouch clips so they still engage the belt velcro. It's a game changer.
I have a padded single layer War Belt. It is nice and it works, but I’m thinking about getting a double layer velcro one as well. I use MOLLE attached everything so I wouldn’t have a problem with “velcro engagement”
This looks like it was recorded up here in the PNW.
In fact, part of that looks like it was near the Carbon River.
Yeah, G-Code also has some weird positioning with their belt attachments as well. I have one holster I really like but the belt attachment sucks. It kicks the butt of the gun out off the body way further than necessary and seems to place the slide and center point rather than closer to the vertical center of the grip.
Really enjoy these witty no-b.s. reviews. Well done.
Basically any problem with velcro engagement can be solved with a couple of belt keepers. They're what cops used before Velcro belts were the thing, and they're still the best fucking tool ever
For the issue of the gcode sagging get some sticky velcro for it. I did the same for all my kywi pouches so I have more velcro engagement. a mid rise is the way to go. And a trex strap. Qls or not. I have plenty of pistols to swap between so it is helpful.
I have the Blue Force Gear belt with Esstac mag holders, set up just about just like yours and LOVE IT.
Good video
Holy crap. This video was top notch. I've never heard of you, but after this video, you earned a follow from me.
Actually I really like you mentioning the velcroe real estate over and over. Drives the point in.
I attach a strip of Velcro to those minimal Velcro engagement areas . Works for me. I sewed some on the cloth areas.
This was a fantastic video! And I totally agree with the Velcro mentions. That’s actually one of my worries as I order stuff, losing structural integrity. I appreciate the insight amigo