The very first sign of a scammer and con artist is denial, even before all evidence against him - the moment this type of person concedes on any flaw in his/her logic, the castle of cards starts falling down. That's why Cientology goes so bloodthirstingly after it's detractors.
R2-45 is Scientology slang for murder or suicide by gun. Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard described it as "an enormously effective process for exteriorization but its use is frowned upon by this society at this time".
@@bragiodinsen4604 It is a "hit-piece." Definitely. The original tape was three hours long including one informal interview with Ron (which was destroyed), one scripted interview and several informal interviews of the crew. Bent Corydon and Russell Miller have the full transcripts. Call them. They would be delighted to help you.
Scientology is a crackpot quackery "pseudo-therapy/exorcism" practice. Lower Scientology up through the "Clear" midway point of the whole stepladder of the subject, is the pseudo-therapy section. Then upper Scientology consists of 8 levels, of those upper 8, five of them are the exorcism levels. Just a simple breakdown of the full stepladder divides it up into the pseudo-therapy levels and then the exorcism levels. Scientology is a crackpot pseudo-therapy and exorcism practice. "Clear" is the midway point, where one supposedly has eliminated all the negative effects of one's past-lives trauna. The upper levels exorcism supposedly makes one into a super soul able to soul eject out of one's head, as a sort of soul astronaut. No one ever attains the soul astronaut (able to go out of the body at will, that is) ability. It's all delusional hallucination, at best. It's a long scam, and the exorcism is snipe-hunting for surplus souls (called "body-thetans" by Hubbard) which were supposedly deposited on earth by Xenu, the ancient evil space leader. Xenu desposited zillions of surplus souls onto earth 75 million years ago, per Hubbard, and the five exorcism levels of Scientology are necessary to remove all these surplus souls off of one's human body, which is of course the absurdity of the practices of the movement and why it truly is snipe-hunting. The words "XENU" and "BODY-THETANS" are two taboo words, which anyone can get a lot of mileage and fun out of using those two words in the earshot of Scientologists. Because Scientologists are not allowed to publicly state the two words, you can use those words to detect whether a person is a Scientologist or not, by asking them to discuss XENU and BODY-THETANS with you. The BODY-THETANS are simply the surplus souls that infest all humans today, which need the five Scientology exorcsm levels to remove them. And XENU is simply the ancient space bad guy who did the evil deed of depositing the surplus souls here on earth. - Chuck Beatty ex Scientology staff training department staffer
@@chuckbeattyo just out of curiosity, how are you doing? My understanding is that, if you dare leave or criticize Hubbard or Scientology, they spend the rest of your life harassing you.
+Tin Man It is easy to understand that conflict is only illusive. All arguments are illusives. You are always upset because you see what is not there. All feelings are illusives. All ideas are illusives. All senses are illusives. All this world is temporal so illusive also. Are you getting that ? All this writing here is illusive, for it is all imaginary. Let's hope that you can make sense out of those illusions.
+Gérard Lefrançois My guess is that you've had either too much scientiology or too little. Better sign up for some more auditing - they'll pull your head out of your arse.
+Tin Man That is your own illusived guess Tin Man and I respect it. You seem not to understand what I meant that conflict is only illusive and also your guess. Your attack thoughts are attacking your invulnerability. What you see is a form of vengeance.
+Tin Man Try to understand this for a change. Without illusion, conflict is impossible. Who would defend himself unless he thought he were attacked, that the attack were real, and that is own defense could save himself ??? And herein lies the folly of defense; it gives illusions full reality, and then attemps to handle them as real. It adds illusions to illusions thus making correction doubly difficult. And it is this you do when you attempt to plan the future, activate the past, or organize the present as you wish.
And if they were so "on to him" look at how effectively "they" did anything about it. Many of the world's guberments, as well as the AMA and Shrinks tried to bring him down yet Scientology is world wide just 50 years later. Kinda makes you wonder what the other side of the story is now doesn't it?
@@garygraham4679 If you know the background story and know a little bit about how the human mind work under such structure, then No, don't make me wonder when the story is quite clear.
And, he's never had a second wife; he must have gone from the first (dead) wife to his 3rd wife?!? The BS this man continually spewed is incredible! (not in a good way! ) This man was something else for sure!
Easy, "we" don't believe in hindering adults from hurting themselves. They have free will. There are many aspects of COS that are outrightly against the law. But a free society cannot stop a cult from continuing w/the practices it has that aren't illegal.
Is it any more bizarre than people falling for what all religions sell us, or people continually falling for the equally odorous bullshit of corrupt, lying politicians?
Taraalcar I'll answer it.....$cientology is like a deceptive, controling, totalitarian government. You would know that if you knew more about $cientology.
I remember meeting this girl at the Celebrity Center. She was a Scientologist. Sitting there talking, she pulled a pack of cigarettes and lit one. I asked her, since smoking is bad for you, doesn't it violate Scientology? She replied, "Ron smokes." Present tense. He was dead, but they refereed to him in the present tense.
I believe they talk about him in present tense because they believe his spirit is still alive. Here's something from Wiki: "The original contains a Doomsday Prophecy that the Galactic Confederacy will return soon and telepathically enslave the universe but Hubbard wrote that he will return after his death and in a Messiah-like role "halt a series of events designed to make happy slaves of us all""
In the East Grindstead centre in the UK. They have his suits and sailor uniform in glass cases. When he come's back he can have a choice of what to wear.
Hubbard was always running from the law. The Sea Org was created to support him while he was a fugitive. That should tell you everything you need to know about Scientology.
Of the many nonsensical elements of Scientology and its history, 14:16 goes underdiscussed. "Let's try to figure out what happened to ancient civilizations that went extinct." "Cool! Are we going to map out where those civilizations were? Develop a plan for fossil gathering? Build a database of previous research to compare notes?" "Nah, I figure we just get on a ship and randomly dart around to islands while I dress like a captain despite being kicked out of command in the Navy twice."
"Love" is not the first word that comes into my mind looking at and listening to Hubbard. I think he's the MOST utterly repulsive character i can think of.
This is 4years after i got very briefly pulled into this crap, but watching this i know that what i felt about their spiel was that they were so intelligent, and i was only 15/16 and thought i had something missing in the intellect side of things. I didnt stay long because i was pulled out literally by my dad, and watching this again, i now realise that my Dad did know something about this mob. Oh, how i have changed. Knowing now what my dad knew.
This was really fasinating to watch because I use to be a Scientologist, and I remember how we use to look up to Hubbard like he was some kind of enlightend being who was going to help us all become super humans. I wish every Scientologist could see this video. They are indeed a delusional bunch. I discovered this as a staff member when my Scientologist friend told me she could leave her body at will. I told her to turn around and tell me how many fingers I held up. She couldn't do it.
An excellent interviewer. LRH was put on the spot many times and although he trotted out his usual plastic smile, you could see that he was none too pleased to be challenged. Anyone else within the group who questioned him would be severely punished, as is recorded in many places.
1967 there were hardly many oral surgeons. It would be another 25 years, and this old coot would be dead in 19. Think of the state of them today. If they hadn't turned him to ash because nobody should martyr this bastard.
L Ron Hubbard Went to the cupboard To get some science fiction he wrote read A publisher read it And said "This stuff is shit!" So he invented Scientology instead
+Sam -222830- Pendleton It is easy to understand that conflict is only illusive. All arguments are illusives. You are always upset because you see what is not there. All feelings are illusives. All ideas are illusives. All senses are illusives. All this world is temporal so illusive also. Are you getting that ? All this writing here is illusive, for it is all imaginary. Let's hope that you can make sense out of those illusions.
Gérard Lefrançois How can I make sense out of an illusion? You speak in nonsense; you want me to believe that all ideas are illusive, yet you want to make sure I understand the idea you're trying to communicate. If all ideas are illusive, then I CANNOT understand your idea, or anything else.
"ive married twice, im very happily married etc etc, my first wife is dead" "what happened to your second wife?" "ive never had a second wife" wait what?
IDanielGarrido that's what lead me here actually, we were talking about that clip on twitter and someone was kind enough to provide a link to this highly amusing but also seriously creepy video.
"During the 30's and 40's I was a highly successful writer. That's where all the money came from." 19:14 LOL, he is a massive bullshitter. He was a pulp fiction writer writing for a pennny a word.
Just listened to an interview with John Atack on Surviving Scientology, and he mentioned this documentary - and ESPECIALLY the conversation that was not taped! :O :O :O Thanks @Mark Bunker for making this available!
(Hubbard) "...I've been married twice." (Interviewer)- "What happened to your second wife?" (Hubbard) "I never had a second wife." If he's been married twice, then he's currently married to his second wife. He just proved himself to be a liar!
Second wife implies you're in a polygamous relationship. If you're married to one woman, you have a wife. You get divorced and remarry, and you still only have one wife. Just add an ex-wife.
He had his "revolutionary Vision" on a hospital bed. Dying for more than ten minutes! In fact he was under the effects of nitrous oxide.....having a tooth extracted... no death, just Nox!
Looking at Hubbard here and reading the often-confused & muddled comments here and also on the 'Cruise Uncut' posting on RUclips, it's amazing how clearly and accurately this film understood Hubbard & Scientology all those years ago. It's a pity more people didn't listen over the years since - no one can now say they weren't absolutely and clearly told and warned by this film.
My favorite quote of his is "If a man really wanted to make money, he'd invent a religion". 5 years later, Scientology pops out of his ass. That guy was a freaking genius.
I remember how the devil is depicted in many Hollywood-movies. He has white and polished teath and blinds people by his outcome, clothes and prettyness. Use your mind!
Kill a baby... What a wacko! He LIES! "I've been married twice," and "I never had a SECOND wife." Liverlips, that means you have a SECOND wife! How can they not see this man was a con artist?
No way my friend... This L Ron chap seems to share many of the former, disgraced, twice impeached presidents shortcomings. Besides its well known he was a Democrat his entire life..
Yes, if you marry the same person twice. But, he said his first wife is dead(with a HUGE smile.) He says he's been married "twice." If the first wife is dead and he has remarried, then the Mary Sue would be his second wife. But, because he is trying to hide his bigamist marriage to Sara Northrup he said he "never had a second wife." I would think that he would have said that Mary Sue is second wife, not say he never had one.
Erica Adams Scientology has improved my life tremendously. L. Ron was a smart and important man. His teachings are vital in achieving spiritual enlightenment and freedom.
Manmelt says l ron was a 'smart and...' but hubbard couldn't even add to 3, so that says everything anyone needs to know. in this video hubbard denies being in charge, but then complains that people on the ship don't follow his orders. the man was a pathological liar, and his "tech" couldn't even cure his disgusting oral hygiene issues (or, at the very least, make him better at brushing and flossing). yet people continue to pay large sums of money and think he was someone to be idolized 🙄
"How many times have you been married?" "How many times have I been married. I've been married twice. And I'm very happily married just now. I have a wife and I have four children and my first wife is dead." "What happened to your second wife?" "I've never had a second wife." LOLWUT????
But lets not talk about how these people were conned. Its not by accident. HE KNEW who he prayed on. Now lets all talk about what was wrong with these peopels lives before we get back to the easy game of trashing a man who has been dead for decades. Lets talk about the people who did his bidding...like Rathbun. Lets talk about the people who were budhhists and joined Hubbard...Like Jon Atak. Lets talk about the sexually challanged who signed up to enlist people like ...well, we all know who. Cheers
The documentary doesn`t point out that "Auditing Process R2-45" is actually taking an R2-45 revolver and shoot somebody in the head, thus putting him outside his body.
What I think this demonstrates above all else is how stage-managed Hubbard's charisma was. He's terribly charming, his speech is very careful, but the moment the interviewer asks him a question he's not prepared for, he really stumbles. There are one or two bits where you can even catch a note of anger.
Digscomics I don't find him charming for one second. One look at him gives me the skivvies. As soon as he starts speaking, my bullshit detector goes off. I'm guessing some people don't have the gene that triggers fear from guys like this.
culwin Nobody's disputing that he was a thoroughly unpleasant, frankly evil man. And I agree that as a narcissist, he was nowhere near as clever as he thought he was (this video illustrates that). But to dismiss him as a total charmless idiot is to deny an obvious fact - he was clever enough to convince thousands of people, many of them intelligent and successful, that he was literally the greatest man who ever lived. Many of his former associates noted that he was a good talker (albeit given to flights of fantasy). This is quite common among cult leaders - Charles Manson and Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh are two other examples that spring to mind. They're people who are in general total screw-ups, but they're clever enough to know how to manipulate people. That's what makes them so dangerous.
fantastic journalism. the power of a narcissist is tremendous especially when it's invisible from the eyes of a co-dependent admirer. often now called the dark triad and plenty of Ron's running amock in positions of power.
Somebody please tell me how in fuck's name a movement originated nearly 60 years ago by someone clearly resembling the Mouth of Sauron is STILL attracting recruits in the 21st century!!
@Keyboard Dancers - Scientology isn't seeing much in the way of "new recruits" these days (and their tiny membership is dwindling) thanks to the Internet and all the ex-members speaking out about the abuses and criminality of this cult. The release of the documentary Going Clear (and the book), the many lawsuits against Narconon (Scientology's fake drug rehab which tries to recruit new members; many patients have died at their facilities), reporter Tony Ortega, (check out his daily blog!), Mike Rinder's blog, Chris Shelton, Tory, Marty Rathbum etc, have all made it very difficult for this cult to hide anymore. People know what's up now. And it's only gonna get worse for Scientology. I, for one, can't wait to see Miscavige in prison.
@@mz.sweetiperry They are having to go to less developed parts of the world to get recruits. But since those people are typically less wealthy, they bring them into the U.S. under “Religious” Visas, and essentially traffic them into the Sea Org, where they make $50 a month as servants to $camentology.
His mouth moves almost in complete reverse or opposite of the words being spoken. I've never seen a moving mouth moving in such direct opposition to what's being said.
This video is a most revealing look into the mind of the madman named L. Ron Hubbard. If I had had has the opportunity to see this film in the late 70's, before I became a member of scientology, I know I would not have invested the nearly 20 years of my life I gave him in practicing, defending and protecting his pseudoscience so unworthy of my unquestioning loyality. I am shocked at how calculated his plan was to take whatever money and sanity he could from anyone he could scam.
"a suppressive person isn't critical. a suppressive person is one who denies the rights of others." ~lrh from the hypocritical, pathological liar himself. the one who instituted the guardians office/OSA/fair game. so glad I finally got to see this interview (even though hubbard's effeminate voice and disgusting dental hygiene made me want to vomit).
When a person lies they invariably give themselves away through externally readable movements and gestures. Among these are eye movements. If you watch LRH, when he is asked an 'uncomfortable' question he looks down and to the right, this is a indicator of using his imagination and internal dialogue to try and answer the 'awkward' question. When one is accessing their memory, i.e telling the truth they tend to look up and to the left.
Interviewer is ace in this, @13:05 LRH: "we have this book on how to save your marriage" Interviewer "How many times have you been married?" LRH "Twice"
.... and Hubbard goes on to say that he "never had a second wife". His reason? Cos, although he didn't of course say so, in reality the "marriage saver/expert" married his second wife bigamously. And, having dumped his second wife, the "marriage-saver's" THIRD wife, Mary Sue, ended up with a 5 year jail sentence - upheld despite endless appeals - so taking the rap for Hubbard and then, as a 'Thank You', was deserted by him. "How to Save your Marriage indeed". What a TOTAL shyster ....
This is true, watching him you can't help but wonder why so many people found him convincing. A lot of people are just desperate to believe someone is going to rescue them and they aren't too choosy about how quality the saviour is. Shades of Life of Brian.
@@MarquisDeSang it's a cult involved in the trafficking of people, especially children. Ripping families apart, blackmail and physical and mental abuse. Then covers those abuse's from the outside world. It's the absolute opposite of any church. It teaches people to brainwash themselves. And those fortunate enough to escape, spend decades with nightmares and terrible PTSD. How could anyone describe that garbage as a good thing??!
I am almost envious. To be able to lie with such impunity and with a straight face especially about the money is impressive. He still has one of those faces that begs to be punched. His independent wealth BS is a howler. 20:05 "Fantastic" is so appropriate on so many levels. Its out of print (surprise) but try to get a hold of a copy of "Bare Faced Messiah" a true believer was given a newly (at the time) discovered stash of documents and he went out to prove all the naysayers wrong. It turns out LRH was a malingering con-man who should have been bounced from the Navy among other things. War injuries? More like sick call to dodge duty.
@@MrTolesi you've got that right--trump's cult45 is just as gullible as CoS members. people who reject any facts that deny their belief in the leader who can obviously be lying or a complete conman but they still have abject loyalty--which is what a cult is
Mark Bunker reminds me of a quote from the bible: "The path of the righteous man [Mark Bunker] is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men [Scientology/Scientologists/David Miscavige]. Blessed is he [Mark Bunker], who in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak [Scientologist] through the valley of darkness [Scientology], for he [Mark Bunker] is truly his brother's [humanities] keeper and the finder of lost children [Scientlogists]. And I [God] will strike down upon thee [Scientology/Scientologists/David Miscavige] with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers [humanity]. And you [Scientologists/Scientology/David Miscavige] will know my [God] name is the Lord when I [God] lay my vengeance upon thee". Mark Bunker is truely doing the lord's work 🙏.
What they probably don't say is people were beaten starved tortured and even killed on that ship. He had the ship so he could go out to international waters so he could do that.
It absolutely boggles my mind that people can look at Hubbard's facial expressions while responding to questions and not see that he's a complete charlatan.
10:22 Smile that doesn't touch the eyes, predatory satiation, disgust, arrogance, resentment, no regard for the truth; I swear to God he's one of the manifestations of the anti-Christ, he just couldn't be as "cool" as Stalin or Joe Smith, let's say.
Christoph Schnapp I noticed he touched his nose once. Stopped counting after that. Did he keep touching his nose a lot? I didn't get that. Creative part of his brain? Well, why wouldn't you want to be creating your reality on the spot in the moment? Do you want to be living perpetually in the midst of yesterday's dirty laundry? Oh, you think he's lying. I think he's just coming up with witty creative ways of answering the questions of a hostile reporter. And in a very cheerful and polite manner, I might add.
Of course you NEVER would have contempt for someone who is trying to roast your ass like this reporter is doing to Ron. You'd having nothing but love and tender mercies. Yeah, Ron's face is very expressive. Micro-expressions of his mouth. Great attention to detail!
I just don't feel that Ron is lying. He's coming up with creative ways to answer. It's not the same as lying. I am not now an active Scientologist, and I am not taking sides. Whoever turns out to be right in the end, I feel it will be whoever is the most CONSCIOUS, AND the most COMPASSIONATE. I hate to see anyone come to harm, ever. If people could entertain a point of view without becoming IDENTIFIED with it, then we could have a civilized discussion. I am NOT my point of view. I am viewing FROM a point of view. I could assume any point of view without the need to be RIGHT about that point of view. This is something I've learned from Scientology. In the film here it's mentioned that crew members are trained to be ethically beyond reproach. Why would anybody object to that? I think a lot of the anti-Scientolgy is just pure envy. Ron seems to be having a great time, and miserable people want to attack him over money, and how many wives he had. And it's true what he said about suppressive persons. It's someone who wants to deny rights to others. I see this everyday. It's based in fear. I'm getting hate right now from the local Pentecostals because they don't like homosexuals. It's beyond them to consider that I haven't violated anybody's rights by living my life as I see fit. It's just that their understanding of "Scripture" is that homosexuality is an abomination to the Lord. Okay, you can go ahead and believe that. How have I harmed you? And they want to hate and shake their head in pity. They don't even PRACTICE their own fucking religion! "Forgive others their sins so that you may also be forgiven," and "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone." I also am aware that Scientology isn't necissarily gay friendly. That's one of the issues I have with the COS, and it's why I'm leaning now more towards organizations like Transcendental Meditation, which one of their senior members has a brother who is openly gay, and they have a foundation in San Francisco to support people infected with HIV. Turns out that TM has been shown to improve the immune system and lower viral load in HIV infected people.
Just to remind us again, "On Thursday, February 2, the Court of Appeal in Paris confirmed the conviction of two Scientology organisations for organised fraud, increasing the sentences against two of the appellants. The Appeal Court conformed the following convictions and sentences: The Celebrity Centre, was convicted of organised fraud. It was fined 400,000 euros and ordered to pay for the details of the conviction to be published in several major French newspapers....." There's more!
At 13:13 he says: ''I've been married twice'' and at 13:25 he says: ''I never had a second wife'' only a first and a third Mr. Hubbard? Hummmm, I see...
MrColbert101 It's par for the course everywhere but the US, where news/current affairs interviewers seem to think they're paid to suck up to/be unfailingly polite the interviewee.
Has any expert on body language ever analyzed Hubbard's videos? That should be interesting, I am not expert but I already catch him in a couple of lies just looking at his eyes. Also Mark Bunker, great work man. I meet you once at a computer store. I keep a low profile because half of my family is in the cult, but I am trying my best to wake them up and I use a lot of your material and others to help me onto how to deal with my brainwashed family. Thanks man
Hubbard was a science fiction writer who had the bright idea of marketing one of his stories as a religion and charging the rubes for it on a pay as you go basis. Where most authors live in poverty or take teaching jobs, Hubbard became a billionaire.
"Even after 3 hours of talking we never got an explanation from him that we could understand."-Exactly
The very first sign of a scammer and con artist is denial, even before all evidence against him - the moment this type of person concedes on any flaw in his/her logic, the castle of cards starts falling down.
That's why Cientology goes so bloodthirstingly after it's detractors.
Complete True what the heck is that supposed to mean???
I've watched this 100 times at least over the years. It's in my sleeping playlist. Great work and excellent content.
R2-45 is Scientology slang for murder or suicide by gun. Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard described it as "an enormously effective process for exteriorization but its use is frowned upon by this society at this time".
I'm buying a captains hat and a typewriter tomorrow.
LMG LMG count me in.
I had one of those captains hats as a child. I thought I was very smart & the commander whenever I wore my hat
Yessss
HAHAHA
Hey did you buy the captain's hat? How's your cult coming?
"even after 3 hours of talking we couldn't understand wtf he was talking about"
where are the 3 hrs? why does he keep talking over him? obvious hit piece, regardless of his merits.
@@bragiodinsen4604 It is a "hit-piece." Definitely. The original tape was three hours long including one informal interview with Ron (which was destroyed), one scripted interview and several informal interviews of the crew. Bent Corydon and Russell Miller have the full transcripts. Call them. They would be delighted to help you.
Scientology is a crackpot quackery "pseudo-therapy/exorcism" practice. Lower Scientology up through the "Clear" midway point of the whole stepladder of the subject, is the pseudo-therapy section. Then upper Scientology consists of 8 levels, of those upper 8, five of them are the exorcism levels.
Just a simple breakdown of the full stepladder divides it up into the pseudo-therapy levels and then the exorcism levels.
Scientology is a crackpot pseudo-therapy and exorcism practice. "Clear" is the midway point, where one supposedly has eliminated all the negative effects of one's past-lives trauna.
The upper levels exorcism supposedly makes one into a super soul able to soul eject out of one's head, as a sort of soul astronaut.
No one ever attains the soul astronaut (able to go out of the body at will, that is) ability. It's all delusional hallucination, at best.
It's a long scam, and the exorcism is snipe-hunting for surplus souls (called "body-thetans" by Hubbard) which were supposedly deposited on earth by Xenu, the ancient evil space leader.
Xenu desposited zillions of surplus souls onto earth 75 million years ago, per Hubbard, and the five exorcism levels of Scientology are necessary to remove all these surplus souls off of one's human body, which is of course the absurdity of the practices of the movement and why it truly is snipe-hunting.
The words "XENU" and "BODY-THETANS" are two taboo words, which anyone can get a lot of mileage and fun out of using those two words in the earshot of Scientologists.
Because Scientologists are not allowed to publicly state the two words, you can use those words to detect whether a person is a Scientologist or not, by asking them to discuss XENU and BODY-THETANS with you.
The BODY-THETANS are simply the surplus souls that infest all humans today, which need the five Scientology exorcsm levels to remove them.
And XENU is simply the ancient space bad guy who did the evil deed of depositing the surplus souls here on earth.
- Chuck Beatty
ex Scientology staff training department staffer
@3:59
@@chuckbeattyo just out of curiosity, how are you doing? My understanding is that, if you dare leave or criticize Hubbard or Scientology, they spend the rest of your life harassing you.
I wouldn't buy a used car from a guy like that, let alone an entire belief system.
in order to sell used cars you have to get dental work done if you have rotten teeth
Ron laughing or smiling has such an inherent evilness, it's scary.
Dupers delight
@@ChrisAthanas yes but also might be indicative of mental disease like schizophrenia
Hubbard's smile is possibly the creepiest sight on RUclips. It looks like he read about facial expressions in a magazine and decided to give it a try.
definitely an evil guy not just a ordinary conman
Looks like scientology isn't down with dentistry.
+Tin Man It is easy to understand that conflict is only illusive. All arguments are illusives. You are always upset because you see what is not there. All feelings are illusives. All ideas are illusives. All senses are illusives. All this world is temporal so illusive also. Are you getting that ? All this writing here is illusive, for it is all imaginary. Let's hope that you can make sense out of those illusions.
+Tin Man Yeah who's his dentist? The Cryptkeeper? XD
+Gérard Lefrançois My guess is that you've had either too much scientiology or too little. Better sign up for some more auditing - they'll pull your head out of your arse.
+Tin Man That is your own illusived guess Tin Man and I respect it. You seem not to understand what I meant that conflict is only illusive and also your guess. Your attack thoughts are attacking your invulnerability. What you see is a form of vengeance.
+Tin Man Try to understand this for a change.
Without illusion, conflict is impossible.
Who would defend himself unless he thought he were attacked, that the attack were real, and that is own defense could save himself ??? And herein lies the folly of defense; it gives illusions full reality, and then attemps to handle them as real. It adds illusions to illusions thus making correction doubly difficult. And it is this you do when you attempt to plan the future, activate the past, or organize the present as you wish.
... 45 years old, and STILL relevant today... this documentary, puts it all out here... and it's 45 YEARS OLD!!!
55 now and STILL relevant!
Some folks were onto him from the get-go.
@@joancrawford1146Still irrelevant!
Even in the 50s they were onto him and his shady ways!
And if they were so "on to him" look at how effectively "they" did anything about it. Many of the world's guberments, as well as the AMA and Shrinks tried to bring him down yet Scientology is world wide just 50 years later. Kinda makes you wonder what the other side of the story is now doesn't it?
@@garygraham4679 If you know the background story and know a little bit about how the human mind work under such structure, then No, don't make me wonder when the story is quite clear.
1967
He wasn't shady, just set in his ways. They were a disciplined bunch of followers, not a cult, just a SEA-ORG that had very good auditors.
Hubbards mouth has the most bizarre movements.
Cooper Carr Pipe smoker
+Lidia Quinillo Chain smoker of filterless KOOL cigarettes.
Camal blacks
Mass amphetamine use.
It's a frogs mouth.
'My first wife is dead'..... *MASSIVE GRIN*
And, he's never had a second wife; he must have gone from the first (dead) wife to his 3rd wife?!?
The BS this man continually spewed is incredible! (not in a good way! )
This man was something else for sure!
A psychopath
So creepy...
Hubbard never answers anything-he just babbles in circles.
"I've been married twice but never had a 2nd wife"
That's all I need to hear. Crazy...
I cannot BELIEVE how long we have known about this cult and have allowed it to continue. What is wrong with us???
Easy, "we" don't believe in hindering adults from hurting themselves. They have free will. There are many aspects of COS that are outrightly against the law. But a free society cannot stop a cult from continuing w/the practices it has that aren't illegal.
It could not exist without the support and protection of the US Government.
With us!!!!!! Speak for yourself.
@@johnmc3862 Why us? I don't even buy sehen music from chick corea anymore since I've learned about him admiring l Ron Hubbart
This can be done with democracy and politicians who keep at least one eye closed!
It's really bizarre how people manage to fall for this.
Is it any more bizarre than people falling for what all religions sell us, or people continually falling for the equally odorous bullshit of corrupt, lying politicians?
***** A little bit yeah
People fall for nearly everything they see on tv and nearly everything they are told by government; why not this too?
LMG LMG Now you're comparing scientology to the government. Why would you do that? Actually don't answer that.
Taraalcar
I'll answer it.....$cientology is like a deceptive, controling, totalitarian government. You would know that if you knew more about $cientology.
I remember meeting this girl at the Celebrity Center. She was a Scientologist. Sitting there talking, she pulled a pack of cigarettes and lit one. I asked her, since smoking is bad for you, doesn't it violate Scientology? She replied, "Ron smokes." Present tense. He was dead, but they refereed to him in the present tense.
CREEPY
I believe they talk about him in present tense because they believe his spirit is still alive. Here's something from Wiki: "The original contains a Doomsday Prophecy that the Galactic Confederacy will return soon and telepathically enslave the universe but Hubbard wrote that he will return after his death and in a Messiah-like role "halt a series of events designed to make happy slaves of us all""
@@victorf.larsen1651 I asked them. I pointed out that he was dead. They believe he's hiding. This was in 1993.
In the East Grindstead centre in the UK. They have his suits and sailor uniform in glass cases. When he come's back he can have a choice of what to wear.
@@andrewjames9996 He's not coming back. His whole life was a complete lie.
"Even after 3 hours of talking we never got an explanation from him that we could understand" xD
Hubbard was always running from the law. The Sea Org was created to support him while he was a fugitive. That should tell you everything you need to know about Scientology.
I actually bust out laughing when Hubbard said he wanted to keep out the lunatic fringe.
Of the many nonsensical elements of Scientology and its history, 14:16 goes underdiscussed.
"Let's try to figure out what happened to ancient civilizations that went extinct."
"Cool! Are we going to map out where those civilizations were? Develop a plan for fossil gathering? Build a database of previous research to compare notes?"
"Nah, I figure we just get on a ship and randomly dart around to islands while I dress like a captain despite being kicked out of command in the Navy twice."
Awww.. I love this man... My dad used to let me watch him late at night.. we would laugh so hard when he would chase that old man... RIP Benny Hill
"Love" is not the first word that comes into my mind looking at and listening to Hubbard. I think he's the MOST utterly repulsive character i can think of.
😂😂😂😂😂
I got your joke....Benny Hill was very funny, and a great likeness to LRH.
@@MrTolesi let's not forget Unpleasant
😂
20:42 - "....I don't have Swiss bank accounts...."
20:43 - "...there is a bank account in Switzerland..."
not even a second gap 😶
This is 4years after i got very briefly pulled into this crap, but watching this i know that what i felt about their spiel was that they were so intelligent, and i was only 15/16 and thought i had something missing in the intellect side of things. I didnt stay long because i was pulled out literally by my dad, and watching this again, i now realise that my Dad did know something about this mob. Oh, how i have changed. Knowing now what my dad knew.
This was really fasinating to watch because I use to be a Scientologist, and I remember how we use to look up to Hubbard like he was some kind of enlightend being who was going to help us all become super humans. I wish every Scientologist could see this video. They are indeed a delusional bunch. I discovered this as a staff member when my Scientologist friend told me she could leave her body at will. I told her to turn around and tell me how many fingers I held up. She couldn't do it.
Mentally stressed and confused people will grab for any perceived life saver
Mentally stressed and confused people will grab for any perceived life saver
"The one man in the world who doesn't believe he's mad is a mad man." - So true and ironic coming out of L. Ron's mouth...
An excellent interviewer. LRH was put on the spot many times and although he trotted out his usual plastic smile, you could see that he was none too pleased to be challenged. Anyone else within the group who questioned him would be severely punished, as is recorded in many places.
The evil smile he gives off is like that of some religious "healer" grifter.
Like how were they punished? He seems like a nice guy, what would he do to you if you disobeyed an order?
All that money, he still COULDN'T GET HIS FUCKING TEETH FIXED??? DAMN.
He probably could make those ugly teeth brand new again. After all he cured himself of blindness... Yeah, right.
@@anitabogart6442 I can't imagine what state of decay they'll be in once his billion years expires.
😃😄😁😆😅
1967 there were hardly many oral surgeons. It would be another 25 years, and this old coot would be dead in 19. Think of the state of them today. If they hadn't turned him to ash because nobody should martyr this bastard.
What a waste
it is easier to con people than to convince them they are being conned.
That's an interesting idea Alan - and you seem, sadly, to be right.
PS Author Jon Atack and the Open Minds Foundation are great on this.
L Ron Hubbard
Went to the cupboard
To get some science fiction he wrote read
A publisher read it
And said "This stuff is shit!"
So he invented Scientology instead
Phi1point62 Mary had a little sheep, One night with it she went to sleep.....
The sheep turned out to be a ram, and Mary had a little lamb.
Phi1point62 I will have LRH blast you for speaking ill of him KNOCK IT OFF CLOWN
Phi1point62 "Do you know how to save Scientology from drowning?"
"No."
"Good!"
libraryquiet
Q: What do you call 500 $cientologists chained together at the bottom of the ocean?
A: A good start.
Phi1point62 your comment is sh**
I am studying ancient civilizations........ in my imagination. In reality I'm doing speed in my cabin.
Is there evidence that LRH used speed? I see a lot of signs
hahahahahaaa!
@@capitalist4life there’s no evidence of it whatsoever. He was just naturally wired that way lol
This is one of the funniest comments ever read online.
It looks indeed like meth judging from his grill
Scientology is scientific in the same way that a hamburger is a delicious way to serve ham.
Adam S
You can keep my mother; I'm more into wives. Speaking of which, how does yours like her eggs? I'm cooking breakfast in the morning.
+Sam -222830- Pendleton she likes them Easter, and could you hide them from her?
AdaStra
Absolutely.
+Sam -222830- Pendleton It is easy to understand that conflict is only illusive. All arguments are illusives. You are always upset because you see what is not there. All feelings are illusives. All ideas are illusives. All senses are illusives. All this world is temporal so illusive also. Are you getting that ? All this writing here is illusive, for it is all imaginary. Let's hope that you can make sense out of those illusions.
Gérard Lefrançois
How can I make sense out of an illusion? You speak in nonsense; you want me to believe that all ideas are illusive, yet you want to make sure I understand the idea you're trying to communicate. If all ideas are illusive, then I CANNOT understand your idea, or anything else.
"ive married twice, im very happily married etc etc, my first wife is dead" "what happened to your second wife?" "ive never had a second wife" wait what?
IDanielGarrido that's what lead me here actually, we were talking about that clip on twitter and someone was kind enough to provide a link to this highly amusing but also seriously creepy video.
That was quite odd indeed.
The pauses they chose in this video are freaking HILARIOUS.
Hubbard was a total slime.
The documentary is 43 years old and is spot on.
Hello?
Thanks for doing something Mark, and Happy New Year.
Good job putting this information out there Mr. Bunker! Keep the people informed. This cult needs to be exposed!
"During the 30's and 40's I was a highly successful writer. That's where all the money came from." 19:14
LOL, he is a massive bullshitter. He was a pulp fiction writer writing for a pennny a word.
Just listened to an interview with John Atack on Surviving Scientology, and he mentioned this documentary - and ESPECIALLY the conversation that was not taped! :O :O :O Thanks @Mark Bunker for making this available!
(Hubbard) "...I've been married twice." (Interviewer)- "What happened to your second wife?" (Hubbard) "I never had a second wife." If he's been married twice, then he's currently married to his second wife. He just proved himself to be a liar!
Fluff the goof there
Not if he remarried his first wife
Second wife implies you're in a polygamous relationship. If you're married to one woman, you have a wife. You get divorced and remarry, and you still only have one wife. Just add an ex-wife.
His mouth is unbelievably creepy.
He had his "revolutionary Vision" on a hospital bed. Dying for more than ten minutes! In fact he was under the effects of nitrous oxide.....having a tooth extracted... no death, just Nox!
Did L. Ron Hubbard consider dentists to be 'Suppressive Persons' too?
Looking at Hubbard here and reading the often-confused & muddled comments here and also on the 'Cruise Uncut' posting on RUclips, it's amazing how clearly and accurately this film understood Hubbard & Scientology all those years ago. It's a pity more people didn't listen over the years since - no one can now say they weren't absolutely and clearly told and warned by this film.
"and so on"
"and so forth"
He uses that quite often at the end of a sentence when he can't properly explain something.
Just another "stable genius ".
My favorite quote of his is "If a man really wanted to make money, he'd invent a religion". 5 years later, Scientology pops out of his ass. That guy was a freaking genius.
He was talking about all religions, they were all created for money.
@@MarquisDeSang were they? typical vacuous statement
"If you want to make a little money, write a book. If you want to make a lot of money, create a religion." -
L. Ron Hubbard (Founder Of $cientology)
All that money but he couldn't pay a dentist?
Which proves he was a puppet of the 'invisible hand'
chain smoking doesn't help...
I remember how the devil is depicted in many Hollywood-movies. He has white and polished teath and blinds people by his outcome, clothes and prettyness. Use your mind!
Matthias Etzold You don't mean that the devil is...Matt Santoro?!
He's had three marriage... Holding up a book on saving marriages
Plus of course L. Ron's notorious bigamy along the way!
How come he had, er, "forgotten" to divorce the wife he already had!? (See Wiki)
right?! worked just as well for tom cruise too🙄😂
Kill a baby...
What a wacko! He LIES! "I've been married twice," and "I never had a SECOND wife." Liverlips, that means you have a SECOND wife! How can they not see this man was a con artist?
Erica Adams What a great point. If he never had a second wife his current wife would be his second wife ie: he has a second wife.
***** nope
LionelWitchieWardrob You can marry the same person more than one time.
John Schrimpf Shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit.. That's like some phony online IQ test question. Well played nonetheless. those kinda things are tricky
And a bad one at that. :D
L Ron- “I don’t have a Swiss bank account, well there is a bank account in Switzerland but the money there is minimal”
Me-😑
Sounds like a democrat
@@bobfeldan9979 it's fucking Trump
@@marcwatt sounds like a hothead liberal
No way my friend... This L Ron chap seems to share many of the former, disgraced, twice impeached presidents shortcomings. Besides its well known he was a Democrat his entire life..
This statement seems indicative of all humans when they're caught being contradictory and or lying. 🤥
If he doesn't think he is insane why would he think he needs a dentist?
Yes, if you marry the same person twice. But, he said his first wife is dead(with a HUGE smile.) He says he's been married "twice." If the first wife is dead and he has remarried, then the Mary Sue would be his second wife. But, because he is trying to hide his bigamist marriage to Sara Northrup he said he "never had a second wife." I would think that he would have said that Mary Sue is second wife, not say he never had one.
Erica Adams Scientology has improved my life tremendously. L. Ron was a smart and important man. His teachings are vital in achieving spiritual enlightenment and freedom.
@@manmelt4037 love the copy paste method. Just like Hubbard. Get help pls. #Cult
Manmelt what are you doing on the net, Lafayette the madman forbids this activity?
Manmelt says l ron was a 'smart and...' but hubbard couldn't even add to 3, so that says everything anyone needs to know.
in this video hubbard denies being in charge, but then complains that people on the ship don't follow his orders. the man was a pathological liar, and his "tech" couldn't even cure his disgusting oral hygiene issues (or, at the very least, make him better at brushing and flossing). yet people continue to pay large sums of money and think he was someone to be idolized 🙄
Notice how he smiles when he lies
Tom Cruse should audit this interview. 😂
😂
"How many times have you been married?"
"How many times have I been married. I've been married twice. And I'm very happily married just now. I have a wife and I have four children and my first wife is dead."
"What happened to your second wife?"
"I've never had a second wife."
LOLWUT????
The interviewer was accusing him of practicing polygamy
LRH saw Aleister Crowley create a religion and himself a prophet. He realized he could get rich and live as a demigod
The girl who went ‘clear’- her eyes look so hollow.
Ugh. I can smell him through the screen.
What's smell is it? Old Spice, B.O. and ASS:)
@@geico1975 Take out the Old Spice, keep the B.O. and yeah, he’s an ass.
L ron halitosis 🤮
@@thomkatt3385 I can't imagine, but I have not heard of reports.
Thanks for this important historical upload Mark. Thank goodness Hubbard never became a politician - he was certainly agile under pressure.
You can see here that he's an effing lunatic, but the more you read, the clearer it is that he was a sociopath.
But lets not talk about how these people were conned. Its not by accident. HE KNEW who he prayed on. Now lets all talk about what was wrong with these peopels lives before we get back to the easy game of trashing a man who has been dead for decades. Lets talk about the people who did his bidding...like Rathbun. Lets talk about the people who were budhhists and joined Hubbard...Like Jon Atak. Lets talk about the sexually challanged who signed up to enlist people like ...well, we all know who. Cheers
His teeth move separately to his lips. Much like someone is inside someone else. A very scary gateway to a very disturbing cathedral
11th String lol
Concur
The documentary doesn`t point out that "Auditing Process R2-45" is actually taking an R2-45 revolver and shoot somebody in the head, thus putting him outside his body.
Oh, I thought it precisely did ...
What I think this demonstrates above all else is how stage-managed Hubbard's charisma was. He's terribly charming, his speech is very careful, but the moment the interviewer asks him a question he's not prepared for, he really stumbles. There are one or two bits where you can even catch a note of anger.
Digscomics I don't find him charming for one second. One look at him gives me the skivvies. As soon as he starts speaking, my bullshit detector goes off. I'm guessing some people don't have the gene that triggers fear from guys like this.
signoguns
Nah, not charismatic and far from intelligent. You shouldn't claim he is just because you're deluded.
culwin Nobody's disputing that he was a thoroughly unpleasant, frankly evil man. And I agree that as a narcissist, he was nowhere near as clever as he thought he was (this video illustrates that). But to dismiss him as a total charmless idiot is to deny an obvious fact - he was clever enough to convince thousands of people, many of them intelligent and successful, that he was literally the greatest man who ever lived. Many of his former associates noted that he was a good talker (albeit given to flights of fantasy).
This is quite common among cult leaders - Charles Manson and Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh are two other examples that spring to mind. They're people who are in general total screw-ups, but they're clever enough to know how to manipulate people. That's what makes them so dangerous.
Digscomics
tl;dr.
culwin And that's exactly my point.
16:23 - Isn't that kind of like the premise of the video game 'Assassin's Creed'? The memories of our ancestors in our DNA and whatnot?
Haha this british reporter is so casually precise on his assessment of scientology.
He did a marvelous job indeed
fantastic journalism. the power of a narcissist is tremendous especially when it's invisible from the eyes of a co-dependent admirer. often now called the dark triad and plenty of Ron's running amock in positions of power.
Somebody please tell me how in fuck's name a movement originated nearly 60 years ago by someone clearly resembling the Mouth of Sauron is STILL attracting recruits in the 21st century!!
@Keyboard Dancers - Scientology isn't seeing much in the way of "new recruits" these days (and their tiny membership is dwindling) thanks to the Internet and all the ex-members speaking out about the abuses and criminality of this cult. The release of the documentary Going Clear (and the book), the many lawsuits against Narconon (Scientology's fake drug rehab which tries to recruit new members; many patients have died at their facilities), reporter Tony Ortega, (check out his daily blog!), Mike Rinder's blog, Chris Shelton, Tory, Marty Rathbum etc, have all made it very difficult for this cult to hide anymore. People know what's up now. And it's only gonna get worse for Scientology. I, for one, can't wait to see Miscavige in prison.
DAVID MONACO Thank God it is dying! lol, guess I shouldn't have used a religious word, but if the word fits, use it....
Ppl are still joining scientology
@@mz.sweetiperry I think if there are people like AtomicPickle1 around, then it's no surprise the $cientologists are still recruiting!
@@mz.sweetiperry They are having to go to less developed parts of the world to get recruits. But since those people are typically less wealthy, they bring them into the U.S. under “Religious” Visas, and essentially traffic them into the Sea Org, where they make $50 a month as servants to $camentology.
Still one of the best documentaries about scientology.
The weird smiling says a lot
His mouth moves almost in complete reverse or opposite of the words being spoken. I've never seen a moving mouth moving in such direct opposition to what's being said.
This video is a most revealing look into the mind of the madman named L. Ron Hubbard. If I had had has the opportunity to see this film in the late 70's, before I became a member of scientology, I know I would not have invested the nearly 20 years of my life I gave him in practicing, defending and protecting his pseudoscience so unworthy of my unquestioning loyality. I am shocked at how calculated his plan was to take whatever money and sanity he could from anyone he could scam.
20:39 I don't have Swiss bank account *there's a bank account in Switzerland* I don't know how much money is in it *but not very much*
Nice to see him get uncomfortable when the subject of his finances were raised.
Wow. This is great journalism. Dont see journalism like this these days. A
"a suppressive person isn't critical. a suppressive person is one who denies the rights of others." ~lrh
from the hypocritical, pathological liar himself. the one who instituted the guardians office/OSA/fair game.
so glad I finally got to see this interview (even though hubbard's effeminate voice and disgusting dental hygiene made me want to vomit).
When a person lies they invariably give themselves away through externally readable movements and gestures. Among these are eye movements. If you watch LRH, when he is asked an 'uncomfortable' question he looks down and to the right, this is a indicator of using his imagination and internal dialogue to try and answer the 'awkward' question. When one is accessing their memory, i.e telling the truth they tend to look up and to the left.
LRH is such a blow-hard! My fav was when they said that after 3 hrs, they still had no idea what he was talking about. I can't stop laughing about it!
Ha id like to see that video
Hubbard is not exactly what comes to mind when thinking of a perfect or higher being.
This documentary makes me proud to be British.
You guys got the Beatles. I'd be proud of that fact!
There's nothing like losing your empire to make you lower your standards for success.
Interviewer is ace in this, @13:05
LRH: "we have this book on how to save your marriage"
Interviewer "How many times have you been married?"
LRH "Twice"
.... and Hubbard goes on to say that he "never had a second wife". His reason? Cos, although he didn't of course say so, in reality the "marriage saver/expert" married his second wife bigamously. And, having dumped his second wife, the "marriage-saver's" THIRD wife, Mary Sue, ended up with a 5 year jail sentence - upheld despite endless appeals - so taking the rap for Hubbard and then, as a 'Thank You', was deserted by him. "How to Save your Marriage indeed". What a TOTAL shyster ....
This is true, watching him you can't help but wonder why so many people found him convincing. A lot of people are just desperate to believe someone is going to rescue them and they aren't too choosy about how quality the saviour is. Shades of Life of Brian.
You failed to see the message beyond the appearance. He is not important, what he wrote is.
@@MarquisDeSang it's a cult involved in the trafficking of people, especially children. Ripping families apart, blackmail and physical and mental abuse. Then covers those abuse's from the outside world. It's the absolute opposite of any church. It teaches people to brainwash themselves. And those fortunate enough to escape, spend decades with nightmares and terrible PTSD. How could anyone describe that garbage as a good thing??!
@@MarquisDeSangScientologists would disagree about that, they all but deify him
You can do alot with some Charisma, he had alot of it and was also a fantastic story teller and studied hypnotism as much as he could.
@@MarquisDeSang You're in the FreeZone, I take it?
I am almost envious. To be able to lie with such impunity and with a straight face especially about the money is impressive. He still has one of those faces that begs to be punched. His independent wealth BS is a howler. 20:05 "Fantastic" is so appropriate on so many levels. Its out of print (surprise) but try to get a hold of a copy of "Bare Faced Messiah" a true believer was given a newly (at the time) discovered stash of documents and he went out to prove all the naysayers wrong. It turns out LRH was a malingering con-man who should have been bounced from the Navy among other things. War injuries? More like sick call to dodge duty.
It ain't such a uncommon gift. Just talk to a successful salesman.
Yes and no. I guess being a vet who was in some units guys like to lie about being in, some things escape me.
"Lie with impunity" ... who's better at that, Hubbard or Trump? What a pair!
its a face that begs to pretty much eat a two-by-four.
@@MrTolesi you've got that right--trump's cult45 is just as gullible as CoS members. people who reject any facts that deny their belief in the leader who can obviously be lying or a complete conman but they still have abject loyalty--which is what a cult is
Mark Bunker reminds me of a quote from the bible:
"The path of the righteous man [Mark Bunker] is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men [Scientology/Scientologists/David Miscavige]. Blessed is he [Mark Bunker], who in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak [Scientologist] through the valley of darkness [Scientology], for he [Mark Bunker] is truly his brother's [humanities] keeper and the finder of lost children [Scientlogists]. And I [God] will strike down upon thee [Scientology/Scientologists/David Miscavige] with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers [humanity]. And you [Scientologists/Scientology/David Miscavige] will know my [God] name is the Lord when I [God] lay my vengeance upon thee".
Mark Bunker is truely doing the lord's work 🙏.
What they probably don't say is people were beaten starved tortured and even killed on that ship. He had the ship so he could go out to international waters so he could do that.
It absolutely boggles my mind that people can look at Hubbard's facial expressions while responding to questions and not see that he's a complete charlatan.
10:22 Smile that doesn't touch the eyes, predatory satiation, disgust, arrogance, resentment, no regard for the truth; I swear to God he's one of the manifestations of the anti-Christ, he just couldn't be as "cool" as Stalin or Joe Smith, let's say.
This smile looks similar to Trumps smile
1:47 The mirco-expressions of his mouth are astounding. The flashes of contempt aren't even very rapid.
Check his eyes, always going to his creative part of brain and how he touches his nose.
Christoph Schnapp
I noticed he touched his nose once. Stopped counting after that. Did he keep touching his nose a lot? I didn't get that. Creative part of his brain? Well, why wouldn't you want to be creating your reality on the spot in the moment? Do you want to be living perpetually in the midst of yesterday's dirty laundry? Oh, you think he's lying. I think he's just coming up with witty creative ways of answering the questions of a hostile reporter. And in a very cheerful and polite manner, I might add.
Of course you NEVER would have contempt for someone who is trying to roast your ass like this reporter is doing to Ron. You'd having nothing but love and tender mercies. Yeah, Ron's face is very expressive. Micro-expressions of his mouth. Great attention to detail!
If you have to use creativity, that's the moment you create fiction, not facts in conversations on the spot.
I just don't feel that Ron is lying. He's coming up with creative ways to answer. It's not the same as lying. I am not now an active Scientologist, and I am not taking sides. Whoever turns out to be right in the end, I feel it will be whoever is the most CONSCIOUS, AND the most COMPASSIONATE. I hate to see anyone come to harm, ever. If people could entertain a point of view without becoming IDENTIFIED with it, then we could have a civilized discussion. I am NOT my point of view. I am viewing FROM a point of view. I could assume any point of view without the need to be RIGHT about that point of view. This is something I've learned from Scientology. In the film here it's mentioned that crew members are trained to be ethically beyond reproach. Why would anybody object to that? I think a lot of the anti-Scientolgy is just pure envy. Ron seems to be having a great time, and miserable people want to attack him over money, and how many wives he had. And it's true what he said about suppressive persons. It's someone who wants to deny rights to others. I see this everyday. It's based in fear. I'm getting hate right now from the local Pentecostals because they don't like homosexuals. It's beyond them to consider that I haven't violated anybody's rights by living my life as I see fit. It's just that their understanding of "Scripture" is that homosexuality is an abomination to the Lord. Okay, you can go ahead and believe that. How have I harmed you? And they want to hate and shake their head in pity. They don't even PRACTICE their own fucking religion! "Forgive others their sins so that you may also be forgiven," and "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone." I also am aware that Scientology isn't necissarily gay friendly. That's one of the issues I have with the COS, and it's why I'm leaning now more towards organizations like Transcendental Meditation, which one of their senior members has a brother who is openly gay, and they have a foundation in San Francisco to support people infected with HIV. Turns out that TM has been shown to improve the immune system and lower viral load in HIV infected people.
2:14 Sort of a snarling, Freudian-slip, disgust response, teeth pulled back.
11:05
12:14
19:54 20:03
Just to remind us again,
"On Thursday, February 2, the Court of Appeal in Paris confirmed the conviction of two Scientology organisations for organised fraud, increasing the sentences against two of the appellants.
The Appeal Court conformed the following convictions and sentences:
The Celebrity Centre, was convicted of organised fraud. It was fined 400,000 euros and ordered to pay for the details of the conviction to be published in several major French newspapers....."
There's more!
I wonder what became of Janet lundy? The lady who went clear?!
At 13:13 he says: ''I've been married twice'' and at 13:25 he says: ''I never had a second wife'' only a first and a third Mr. Hubbard? Hummmm, I see...
I think that he didn't want to remember her very much and he decided to consider her as the emptiness that never existed.
@@consterus Come on, he said he had a first and a third, no second, he was obviously lying.
this is one of the ballziests interviews I've ever seen
MrColbert101 It's par for the course everywhere but the US, where news/current affairs interviewers seem to think they're paid to suck up to/be unfailingly polite the interviewee.
The way his mouth moves along with those staring eyes.... soooooo creepy.
It increases one's knowingness!
diametrically opposed to naked truth of the matter, as IT made you believe it
Has any expert on body language ever analyzed Hubbard's videos?
That should be interesting, I am not expert but I already catch him in a couple of lies just looking at his eyes.
Also Mark Bunker, great work man. I meet you once at a computer store. I keep a low profile because half of my family is in the cult, but I am trying my best to wake them up and I use a lot of your material and others to help me onto how to deal with my brainwashed family.
Thanks man
Hate to break it to you, but body language is hardly indicative of anytihng unless it is super obvious.
6 years later, I hope you know that body language analysis is pseudoscience and Hubbard was on drugs at the time of this interview.
@@acex222 the guy who was (publically and within his organization) fiercely anti-drug.
@@acex222 sorry to break it to you but he wasn’t on drugs. That was just all him haha
He had alot to say. He had alot of nothing to say...
If one were to put clown makeup on hobbard ...I think he would look suspiciously a lot like the joker on Batman. Only the joker was less creepy.
Hubbard makes my skin crawl.
Hubbard was a science fiction writer who had the bright idea of marketing one of his stories as a religion and charging the rubes for it on a pay as you go basis. Where most authors live in poverty or take teaching jobs, Hubbard became a billionaire.
outstanding journalism