I'm currently exploring the possibilities and also if I can do it myself or I need to consult an expert, but I'm trying to build a very special stem (adapter) to come up with a combinations of bike parts that people now say it's impossible. I want to submit the unique bike build to the bike vault and have a go at dropping Ollie's jaws.
There isn't much you can see during the actual process. It all happens in a big container full of titanium powder and a laser fuses it together layer by layer. When it's done you dig out your parts like an archeologist.
I have a 1988 American Comp Lite, which is still my only bike and through upgrades functions better than new, that was one of the first bikes to have a replaceable derailleur hanger. Although it is still holding up it is the one part that would be nice to have a more ridgid version of, maybe not requiring as many subtle adjustments. More bikes now have this feature so dimensions are already there for easier development. Hey you asked;)
Silca has produced a nice raw and cerakoted finish 3D printed Computer, Light/GoPro mount. Moots just partnered with Silca and now has one with the Moots Logo engraved. So cool I just picked up one for my Moots Routt RSL. Sometimes it’s just about the small things in life.
Nice to see the process! I am afraid that with only one screw holding the support arm it will be loose and fall down. I would do a limiter on the bottom part to avoid the support turning down. What will be the next 3D printed part? Can't wait for 🤞
I was expeting the GoPro mount to be part of the 3d print rather than just bolting on a lump of plastic, and was expecting the computer mount to be an insert like on the Garmin out front mounts.
Renishaw has the printers, and does some of Athertons stuff Good to see how long it actually takes to design/make, I have 30 years in engineering, and mention computers and people think it takes 5 mins It costs insane amounts and was mostly development for F1 and aerospace, but it's getting more refined daily Great video Alex!
So true when he says, basically "if you have something that already works, try and base your new thing off that". 3D printing has made it easy to make cool shapes but they still have to survive contact with reality :-)
My perception of 3D printing was of a fast process. Didn't realize that it was a longer process depending on what the materials used would be. Facinating.
Nice part but we didn't see a 3D Titanium printer. Does it use molten titanium? or does it print a mold that is then cast? You certainly won't find an answer to that here.
I wanted to see the post-processing like removing the supports. Did the actual printer service do that? If not would a standard bench grinder handle the Titanium?
First step is to tell you that you are a bit daft wanting a Computer/GoPro mount in titanium when it can be done just as effectively in lighter weight printed nylon :) (seriously... what 3d printing can do is wonderful ain't it?) :)
He had an accident some months ago (maybe 3 or 4 months) and ended up with some severe scrapes. If you go back in the video history you might find more info. Here it is ruclips.net/video/aEatXRMndKc/видео.html
Alex had a crash a while back, shortly before the first part of the video was filmed. There's more about it & his road to recovery in this video! 👉 ruclips.net/video/biXDr0dYme4/видео.html
@@gcntech, thanks for that! Strangely enough I've only been following you guys for a couple of weeks, even tho I'm already cycling for years and years... Anyway, love the clips! Keep it up!
I wouldn't want any part of a bike frame to be 3D printed. The grain structure would suck; probably as bad as, or worse than, casting or MIM: "Fusion-based metal additive manufacturing (AM) processes are featured by small melt pools and steep temperature gradients from the solid-liquid interface toward the liquid metal. As a result, the solidification process shows a strong epitaxial growth tendency from layer to layer while the number of nucleation events is limited due to both the absence of potent nucleant particles and the small melt pool volume (consumed quickly by epitaxial growth). This leads to columnar grains along the build direction in most additively manufactured metallic materials, which cause property anisotropy, reduce mechanical performance and increase tendency toward hot tearing." That's from an article that discusses improving the grain structure of 3D printed titanium (and metal in general) parts using "high-intensity ultrasound" during the process, but I highly doubt they'll be matching the excellent properties of traditional drawing, forging, or rolling, any time soon. Of course, for the trivial item they made in this video it doesn't matter, nor does it even make sense to waste money on making it out of titanium. Aluminum would have been more than sufficient.
We didn't get to see how any of it works. There was a tad bit of talk about the software, didn't see much there. The was some talk about steps, didn't see much there. And then you got the part back from who knows where. This video sucked.
Cool video but it didn't really answer how it's done... I would of liked it to get into the process of actually printing it and not just sending it out to somewhere else but maybe it's just me...
Using titanium is overkill for a computer mount. This is a massive waste of resources. Cool, sure. Practical, no. Check out magcad-designs - they’ll fix you right up with whatever you need at a very reasonable cost.
If you could get a custom made 3D-printed bike part, what would it be?
I'm currently exploring the possibilities and also if I can do it myself or I need to consult an expert, but I'm trying to build a very special stem (adapter) to come up with a combinations of bike parts that people now say it's impossible. I want to submit the unique bike build to the bike vault and have a go at dropping Ollie's jaws.
a cassette!
That is so cool! I'd buy that mount from the GCN shop! Just needs to fit my bars. Sounds like a new product line for the shop 😁
If money was no object...maybe an entire 3D printed bike.
lube
The anodizing was really cool...I had no idea it was that fast.
So quick and gives it such a cool look too!
Bit disappointing not to see the actual titanium printing process! I think most people have seen the cad & plastic 3d printing process before.
There isn't much you can see during the actual process. It all happens in a big container full of titanium powder and a laser fuses it together layer by layer. When it's done you dig out your parts like an archeologist.
Thanks for the explanation of why we would not see the ti process.
I agree with you @danabc322. Especially with the title of this video, I was expecting to see the titanium building process live.
I have a 1988 American Comp Lite, which is still my only bike and through upgrades functions better than new, that was one of the first bikes to have a replaceable derailleur hanger.
Although it is still holding up it is the one part that would be nice to have a more ridgid version of, maybe not requiring as many subtle adjustments.
More bikes now have this feature so dimensions are already there for easier development.
Hey you asked;)
Silca has produced a nice raw and cerakoted finish 3D printed Computer, Light/GoPro mount. Moots just partnered with Silca and now has one with the Moots Logo engraved. So cool I just picked up one for my Moots Routt RSL. Sometimes it’s just about the small things in life.
The cost of which could have paid of 20 bikes for essential care workers in Africa. You muppet.
Nice to see the process!
I am afraid that with only one screw holding the support arm it will be loose and fall down. I would do a limiter on the bottom part to avoid the support turning down.
What will be the next 3D printed part? Can't wait for 🤞
What do you want to see?
GTN Tech: If you could get a custom made 3D-printed bike part, what would it be?
Me: 🤔 Hmm! How about a 3D-Printed 3D-Bike-Parts-Printer!
Co-ordination Alex!! Your watch says 17.27, but you are saying good morning!!!!!
Busted!! 🤣
Amazing work lads. Exquisite In every detail. Well done.
I was expeting the GoPro mount to be part of the 3d print rather than just bolting on a lump of plastic, and was expecting the computer mount to be an insert like on the Garmin out front mounts.
Renishaw has the printers, and does some of Athertons stuff
Good to see how long it actually takes to design/make, I have 30 years in engineering, and mention computers and people think it takes 5 mins
It costs insane amounts and was mostly development for F1 and aerospace, but it's getting more refined daily
Great video Alex!
So true when he says, basically "if you have something that already works, try and base your new thing off that". 3D printing has made it easy to make cool shapes but they still have to survive contact with reality :-)
My perception of 3D printing was of a fast process. Didn't realize that it was a longer process depending on what the materials used would be. Facinating.
3D printing’s advantage is not speed, it is the complexity of designs it can make vs CNC machining
Like it a lot! Im own a titanium bike also. So lovely colour and process to see. But can u tell us the price? Im afraid to ask :)
Nice part but we didn't see a 3D Titanium printer. Does it use molten titanium? or does it print a mold that is then cast? You certainly won't find an answer to that here.
Beautiful !
Nice step up from your mk7 gti Alex, don't forget how to use your blinkers in your new ride!
Super cool!
Nice video but we want to see the titanium printing machine! How does it work etc
Would be cool to see!
what a beautiful part; I guess you need a new aero road bike in matching colors to do it justice.
Fascinating, but I think Ill just get one tomorrow on ebay, for a tenner or so🤗
That's a sweet bit of kit!
Add these to the GCN shop - I would buy one
Hi, GCN. I didn't find a video on gcn+ about ti 3d printing. What's its name?
I wanted to see the post-processing like removing the supports. Did the actual printer service do that? If not would a standard bench grinder handle the Titanium?
Three steps in British manufacturing: 1. Get an idea 2. Put a kettle on 3. Build part.
Of course! 😂
Good video, interesting and clever stuff 👌
First step is to tell you that you are a bit daft wanting a Computer/GoPro mount in titanium when it can be done just as effectively in lighter weight printed nylon :) (seriously... what 3d printing can do is wonderful ain't it?) :)
Where did you find that gopro mount ?
Great question.
Nice stuff guys! But more important, looks like Alex has some bandages. What's happend? Is he okay?
He had an accident some months ago (maybe 3 or 4 months) and ended up with some severe scrapes. If you go back in the video history you might find more info.
Here it is ruclips.net/video/aEatXRMndKc/видео.html
Alex had a crash a while back, shortly before the first part of the video was filmed. There's more about it & his road to recovery in this video! 👉 ruclips.net/video/biXDr0dYme4/видео.html
@@gcntech, thanks for that! Strangely enough I've only been following you guys for a couple of weeks, even tho I'm already cycling for years and years... Anyway, love the clips! Keep it up!
A model Canondale six13 !! 1:5 scale or armrests for my TT bike
Classic Alex 'it's smells very metally'...
Amazing great vid😊
I wouldn't want any part of a bike frame to be 3D printed. The grain structure would suck; probably as bad as, or worse than, casting or MIM:
"Fusion-based metal additive manufacturing (AM) processes are featured by small melt pools and steep temperature gradients from the solid-liquid interface toward the liquid metal. As a result, the solidification process shows a strong epitaxial growth tendency from layer to layer while the number of nucleation events is limited due to both the absence of potent nucleant particles and the small melt pool volume (consumed quickly by epitaxial growth). This leads to columnar grains along the build direction in most additively manufactured metallic materials, which cause property anisotropy, reduce mechanical performance and increase tendency toward hot tearing."
That's from an article that discusses improving the grain structure of 3D printed titanium (and metal in general) parts using "high-intensity ultrasound" during the process, but I highly doubt they'll be matching the excellent properties of traditional drawing, forging, or rolling, any time soon. Of course, for the trivial item they made in this video it doesn't matter, nor does it even make sense to waste money on making it out of titanium. Aluminum would have been more than sufficient.
Can a whole bike be 3D printed with titanium?
So what is the place where he sends his stuff to get made?
He said "few weeks", I'd guess China
Isn't the answer in the question?
Partly
The visual answer isn’t given in the video, if I’m right. So it needs to be somewhere.
Your answer must be a 3D Printout!🤣😂
😂 But a lot goes into the design process too!
Wow 💪🤙👍
Good to know titanium 3d printing is used in cycling. For this particular case though, a plastic mount would have worked just as well, if not better.
Yeah, but would you have watched the video if it was plastic?
I think someone better check up on Albert...
I wondered if Albert was a rug.
Really nice product, too bad it's 90% hidden when you're riding with a computer on it :)
What happened to his epidermis? two crashes in less than 6 months? Hope you heal up quickly!
The first part was shot shortly after the crash, so no new crash luckily for Alex!
@@gcntech Few! good to hear!
Thank god ! Oli is not there ! otherwise we would have got some some chemistry lessons in words that we would have use a dictionary.
😂🤓
Just tell us the price son......
Great but I think the dog stole the show😊
We didn't get to see how any of it works. There was a tad bit of talk about the software, didn't see much there. The was some talk about steps, didn't see much there. And then you got the part back from who knows where. This video sucked.
Hahaha😂 “it smells metally”…
I can see a road bikes costing $50,000. soon. And people will buy it. 😢
So really anyone with a 3d printer can design something ,print it off and then send it off to someone to actually make it in titanium.
Went to their website and you can't even get custom order
First like and comment😇
I was the first hahaha. 5 seconds before u
Cool video but it didn't really answer how it's done... I would of liked it to get into the process of actually printing it and not just sending it out to somewhere else but maybe it's just me...
Alex is the reason we dont see as much Mannon content anymore and he will not be forgiven
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Everything on GCN just seems to be 'cool'. Getting a bit over-used now 🙄
Using titanium is overkill for a computer mount. This is a massive waste of resources. Cool, sure. Practical, no. Check out magcad-designs - they’ll fix you right up with whatever you need at a very reasonable cost.