In their situation there is no guarantee for the kid to speak finnish fluently. One tip to the parents. At the age of 4-5 have a finnish daycare. That really allowed me to learn to speak finnish quickly. Still not good at reading or writing.
"So you guys speak Finnish, English and Swedish... Which of these languages will the baby speak?" Baby: "My name on Jani-Petteri och I live in Suomi with min momma och dad" Edit: Thanks for all the likes, folks. It's enough to make a grown man cry
I think the best way to teach a child Finnish naturally is to have it watch Finnish tv-shows, read Finnish books or listen to Finnish songs. I've been watching Finnish Moomin and Pikkukakkonen and all those Finnish shows alongside the Swedish ones and Finnish has never been a problem for me. It also helps to introduce the kid to Finnish speaking kids. I had such a friend when I was very little and I tried to interact with him in made-up Finnish before I could speak proper Finnish. My mom has told me it sounded very much like Finnish but was total nonsense 😂 So just speak whatever feels natural for you.
Totally agreed! I have some Finnish family friends and we used to visit them every year for a week when I was a kid and thanks to that I learned Finnish. Finland was much more developed than Estonia (where I’m from) back then, so we’d also get all of our DVDs, video games, CDs etc. from Finland. So even when I was at home, I was always somewhat surrounded by the Finnish language (I mean, Moomins were like cocaine to my kid-brain). I never genuinely tried to learn the language, at one point I just realized I could understand it. :) Sadly, though, I always spoke in Estonian to them (because they had learned Estonian and could understand me) and they’d answer in Finnish, so I’m a bit shy and lack in vocabulary when it comes to talking in Finnish. It has been a while since I visited them, too. I’m still glad that I know as much as I do, though. :)
I have several relatives in bilingual relationships, and the best solution concerning babies' language seems to be that parents speak their native tongue to him/her. This can slow down the beginning of vocal communication overall, but the baby will catch up later. It is important to be very consistent with the language issue, and you'll notice that the baby develops a 'daddy-lingo' and a 'mommy-lingo' and when he/she participates in discussion, the language used will switch automatically depending on the listener. And yeah, Finnish will come later in Finnish environment.
Put the child in “språkbad” kielkylpy (“language-bath”) where it’s both Swedish and Finnish speaking staff and kids. That’s the best solution for the child to learn both Swedish Finnish and then obviously English will come naturally :)
No? I am i språkbad, and my grades go down cause it is hard to learn the things in swedish. And it is not a good option for the babys Finnish language, cause there they speak only swedish.
The kid will learn Swedish and English at home - the best is that parents use their own language. Through the mother Swedish will always the language of emotions for him/her. Finnish then in daycare, and if they live in Porvoo, it's most natural the kid goes to a Swedish-speaking school. But having learned Finnish in daycare, that doesn't form a problem, with the tv etc. in Finnish. And already having 2 home languages makes the kid good in picking other languages.
Speak all three langauges ALL of you, the kid will figure it out. Our kid speaks English English, Scottish English, a bit of Scots, Swedish and two very different dialects of that and she is totally normal and knows at seven what languages is what. and we both parents speaks both English and Swedish to her.
Your kid WILL recognise its name even if it is pronounced differently (or completely wrong, as in my son's case). A name that is written more or less phonetically is perhaps the best bet. For example, Tommi & Tommy do not have the same pronunciation but are very similar and my name, Annika sounds similar regardless what nationality person has pronounced it. (Some might ask if it is spelt with 1 or 2 x N - double N makes it phonetic for E flush speakers.) I guess there are more short names that are international but a long name like Maximilian (Max for short) would hardly be mispronounced in Europe. However, think also about having to write a long name daily and fitting it into the space of formal documents.
@@oakstrong1 Oh yes they will, understand the name, correct people and also when speaking English pronounce their classmates names correctly according to English. Dylan goes from Dyll-Anne to Dillian and Lennox from Lenn- Oxe to Lennock, which confuses her friends but they accept it.
@S F That depends on the help they get , schooling and also the people around them. I have friends who are fluent in both and there is no problems. Some have even picked up 1- 3 languages more as adults.
Hi Dave. My mum's Finnish and dad's English. I grew up from 0-10 in England and both spoke English to me. We moved to Helsinki in 76 and I learned Finnish at school in Munkkivuori. Mum and I have spoken Finnish with each other ever since, even though we moved to Holland in '79. Dad still doesn't speak Finnish. Keep up the sterling work. And yes, perch is delicious, especially smoked.
Cat speaks swedish you speak english and finnish the kid will learn anyway since he is living in here. That would be most logical thing to do, but can't watch the vid now
This is for all the Finnish speakers. You learn Finnish in Swedish speaking school and/or in life in general. Example my step-sister went to Swedish speaking school even tho her whole family is Finn speaking. She learned Swedish only in couple of months. This is not rocket science.
I love how you compliment Cat throughout the video and keep saying how beautiful she is. It's true of course but it's also really cute and wonderful to hear a man compliment his pregnant wife and I'm sure she appreciates it too. 😊
You should speak finnish to the baby too as when it goes to school it will be much harder to learn finnish when it's older. I have a second cousin that only speaks english and sweadish and lives in finland. It is really hard for her to live every day life only speaking sweadish and english and she feels like she is missing out a lot of things in here. Her mom is finnish-sweadish and dad is american. She does not feel much connection to the finnish culture and she said that she would like to feel that connection by speaking the language. She said that she probably will move to sweaden when she is old enough and said that she is really sad that she can't feel that connection in here. She always said that she hopes that her mother had taught her finnish as a baby so she could speak it too like the rest of her moms side of family.
T H bollocks. The child will probably learn Finnish in kindergarten. It’s better for the child if parents are consistent in speaking their 1st languages to the kid, instead of speaking non-fluent Finnish.
@@baztz well what if they decide to put the child into a sweadish kindergarten tho. My second cousin was put into one and she speaks pretty much beginner finnish.
Yes, it's way too hot for me. It's 30 degrees here in Espoo right now and 29 degrees inside. I slept about 4 hours last night. Great all of you who can enjoy the heat, I can't. I enjoy the spring, the autumn and the winter. I'd rather have -20 degrees than +30. But good video, always nice to watch a Q&A video once in a while.
I really liked the way you explained feeling alienated by language barriers, it really made me think. To be honest, I’d be terrified to even go to the store! You’re a really cool guy, and I’m proud of you for the progress you’ve already made with Finnish. I’m rooting for you, you’re actually doing so good! I hope I’ll meet you some day, I’d like to say all of this in person. Thanks for existing Dave
Loved the way you speaked about your soon to be due wife. I've watched your videos about a year now, but only now you earned a sub. We had a son 13th of june and the name took 6 weeks to settle between us parents. In two weeks it will be official. Happy expecting, it is a wonderful time in a mans life.
Maybe put the kid through Finnish school and daycare? And make him watch tv in Finnish and read Finnish books. It should be easier to learn Finnish like that, in stead of actually studying the language at older age - which is pretty hard.
Best is to speak your most fluent language to the kid, and be systematic, Kat should speak Swedish, and you English. The kid will pick them both, as long as you're chatty. Kids learning 2 languages at home, will be good in languages in general. The Swiss are famous for this. Speaking only a bit might cause a so called half-language, the kid knows only about half of both. Rarely happens with mother, but if the father is away a lot, or is very quiet, the kid might not learn that language properly. And again, with English there wouldn't be such problem - except then your kid would learn more the AmE :) Like I guess most Finns resemble that more than the BrE when they speak.
I grew up with my stepfather speaking English with me. My sister speaking Swedish to me. My Mother speaking Finnish to me. Society speaking mostly Swedish to me. I speak all three. There was no problems apart from my Finnish being a bit worse than the other two due to lack of exposure to it from others. All it did was make me really advanced in all the languages at a very young age and made learning other languages easier, while making me sound like a native in all three and able to adopt just about any accent I wish, even in languages I don't actually speak. Don't underestimate your child. Start high and lower your bar only if necessary. I did however have a period of having a strange hybrid language just with my mother, where I would (intentionally) replace Finnish words with Swedish ones and apply Finnish grammatical rules on them whenever there was a word I was missing, simply because I wanted to keep the conversations fluid and understandable, not to mention keeping it on the high level I desired. I still speak with a Finno-Swedish accent with her if I speak Swedish with her or any other Finn, while immediately switching to Rikssvenska with regular Swedes. But yeah like people have suggested - just on account of living in Finland, just putting your child in a Finnish-speaking school and pre-school with Finnish speaking staff and maybe some Swedish speaking ones should be good enough to get the Finnish out of the way, while Cat can maybe help ensure her Swedish develops at a steady pace and you can give the child a headstart with English before school and the child's future online life.
Nice Q&A! I wish you would do one more music video video, I loved them! If you end up doing it and wonder who to listen to, my suggestions would be: 1. Dance with the Dragon by Dark Sarah ft. J.P Leppäluoto. The song is incredible and has an interesting backstory 2. Bittersweet by Apocalyptica ft. Lauri Ylönen and Ville Valo. It is a beautiful piece made by a rock cello quartet that features some singers I remember you like. 3. Valot pimeyksien reunoilla by Apulanta. It is a great song packed with wisdom. Have a good one!
For the person that was asking about working in Finland with not much Finnish: You can search on Linkedin and Monster for job adverts in English. Also, there are LOTS of Facebook groups for jobseekers that are moving to Finland. Do a search by city and you'll see them. Good luck!
Soooo, saunapäivä out of the house 😂😂😂😂 Btw my daughter speaks american english (before she spoke only Indonesian, then only Finnish and now only English 🤔 me Indonesian, my husband speaks finnish and we’re waiting my son start talking, excited which language he is going to pick. Yeahh at the end, they will choose the most convenient language to communicate.
I would love to see that Swedish speaking vlog 😄 (I’m a Swedish speaking Finn) And the heat wave is all over Finland. I’m up in Vaasa and it’s just too much 🙈
Either way BOTH! CHILDREN learn so much before they know that they are learning. It just is so normal to them to hear multiple leagues... they don't know the difference. Once they start school.... Yep this is where u need to teach them♥️
I'd love to go to Lapland during the summer but it looks as though I won't make it this year. I REALLY want to experience the midnight sun (and maybe pan for some gold!)
If you go 2 languages, I would say Finnish + English is the most logical combo. Learning Swedish later will be much easier than learning Finnish later in life. But your child, your choice.
Well if the mother is a swedish speaking Finn, then of course she speaks swedish to her child. I'm one aswell, and I would never in a million years speak a language that isn't my mother tongue to my child.
@@johanna_na Yes.. why speak your other native tongue that most people in your country use. All my Swedish speaking Finn-friends are fluent in both Swedish and Finnish, but I was merely pointing out the fact that if one knows English it's much easier to learn Swedish, because they're quite similar, but Finnish on the other hand, is very different. As a father of 3, I was thinking what I feel could be the very best scenario for the child, though as a Finnish speaking Finn I'm biased towards _my_ native language, just like you're biased towards yours. Learning as many languages as one can, is naturally very good. Both for communication and for one's intellectual development. Do you manage with only using Swedish in non-Swedish speaking areas of Finland? Because I know there are plenty of people who simply refuse to use Swedish at all, even if they are fairly proficient in it. (Same sometimes applies with Finnish in Swedish speaking areas.)
@@MrK- It's actually not. There are plenty of areas in this country where only swedish is spoken, and you actually struggle to be understood in Finnish. Not to mention Åland
Heidi Sherbet learning finnish is way more important. In all the important plases we speak finnish. No one cares about if some small towns in middle of nowhere speak swedish. And there arent anymore any officially only swedish speaking areas anymore only finnish or bilingual.
34°C - child's play - here in Bielefeld on Thursday we had 39°C and I spent most of the afternoon lying in a darkened room having a very very long siesta. In our region we had the highest temperatures ever recorded at over 42°C - thankfully it has cooled to a reasonable 34°C at the moment!
My cousin had put her kids into a German speaking kindergarten, followed by an English pre-school and a Finnish elementary school, and they spoke Finnish at home. The kids are normal, they just can speak basic German and English, even more or less fluently. Just saying, your kid will be fine even with a lot of languages around. And you'll be a great dad, don't stress about the small mistakes and don't let Cat stress about them either, babies are surprisingly durable. Love, Care, Hug, Talk, Listen, and stick your tongue out for a silly face. Remember to clean occasionally, try not to teach them to fear bugs by freaking out about the bugs, and let them explore the world, get dirty, get little scratches and scrapes, let them bump into stuff, but child proof the hardest and actually dangerous edges and *corners* , and *never ever* yell at them (angrily, calling after them is fine). You'll have to be the mature one and handle situations calmly with talking, offer explanations, don't be afraid to say "I don't know, let's look it up". I think that's everything I can offer, the rest is up to you and Cat to decide. The kid is yours after all. (Still, I really hope you decide to listen to your doctors and keep up with the vaccination schedule like they recommend. If anything worries you, talk to them. I also hope you can keep a good freedom/boundaries balance, as that creates a balance of being happy and being well behaved enough to function in the society.) You two are wonderful parents, you'll be fine. Edit: formatting, the wall of words was looking rather awful.
FYI I happen to know a little girl here whose mum speaks English to her and her dad speaks Finnish. She speaks Finnish at day care but she has taken English lessons (even though she seems to understand English perfectly). At least right now she talks to both of her parents in Finnish which is sometimes a hard thing for her mum since she doesn't speak Finnish fluently. Maybe when she learns more English at school and matures she might use more English with her mum.
Well, at least you made a good choice in the regards that Finland is one of the most English-friendly countries in the world. Like about 70% of Finnish people are able to hold a conversation in English since everyone learns it at school from the age of 9 onward. And the level of English proficiency keeps rising at such a fast pace that English tests at the college level for example have to be made harder practically every year, so getting by with English is only going to get easier in Finland. One good way to give your kid a head start to learning Finnish would be to show him Finnish children's shows with English or Swedish subtitles once he/she learns to read. My own parents showed me English cartoons with Finnish subtitles when I was a child, so I already started to have some grasp of English by the time I was 6-7.
My brother’s mom talks italian to them and my dad talks swedish and I talk finnish 😂😂 my dad and my stepmom talk english together so they learn that too. Your baby will be absolutely fine, don’t worry about the hate you might be getting x
Luckily in Australia, we are a country of Immigrants, so a foreign accent is the norm.... you would be surprised how many people have a second language. If you both speak your mother tongue, the baby will pick up any language spoken.... good luck from this Aussie dad.
My British husband learnt Finnish very well. I can hear that your pronunciation in Finnish is good that is very important. You just have to use hours and hours and you'll learn. What my husband did he learnt 10 words a day (280 a month etc.). Write them down somewhere and read them many times a day and say them aloud and your vocabulary will get bigger and bigger 😊
Was going to suggest an idea. Before the baby arrives, do a video of you and your Lady talking to the bump for his 18th birthday. Something like "You're watching this on your 18th birthday, but it's XYZ date in 2019 and you aren't born yet." A cool little time capsule :)
Absolutely sensible to speak native languages to the baby - and with the added bonus of living in Finland that he or she will pick up Finnish anyway. Basically a no-brainer.
Your kid will have the opportunity to speak three languages, especially when one of them is so difficult to learn( finnish of course)! I wish I was so lucky. P.S It' s so strange and funny to see people in northen countries going crazy for high temperatures cause I live in Southern Europe and summer is like staying in sauna for all day long( from june to august)
As a linguist, I thought I knew something about bilingual language development, but it turns out some of the things I thought I knew were outdated beliefs. I found an article which looks at the scientific evidence and tries to answer questions like: "Is it best for each parent to speak only one language with a bilingual child?" and "Should parents avoid mixing languages together?" If anyone wants to check out that article, search for "Bilingualism in the Early Years: What the Science Says" by Krista Byers-Heinlein and Casey Lew-Williams.
We speak mostly english at home, but my husband speaks a lot of finnish with my child :D then daycare and grandparents speaking mostly finnish with her too :) sometimes I sprinkle some german words in, but overall we keep it to english and finnish, she is 4 years old now and pretty much fluent (as fluent as any 4 year old is with their mothertongue) in both ^^
I agree with many of the comments. You shouldn't leave teaching the kid Finnish until they go to school, since it will be A LOT harder for them to learn it then. Although it might sound weird, it's actually much easier for a child to learn new languages the younger they are. Even if it's just the basics you should help them get a basic understanding of Finnish before they go to school, otherwise there might be complications such as bullying (as other comments have said, kids can be mean).
Have you tried yet eat tonko (we say here in norteast tonko) or tammukka? It's a hybrid between rainbowtrout and trout. It's absolutely great stiffsalted or smoked and better tasting than any other fish made same ways.
I actually thought you're quite short! 😅 Turns out you're exactly just as tall as me, by the centimeter! Maybe it's because you're sitting so much while filming and there's no reference to body size. Although height doesn't actually matter in any way, nor does skin colour. But still, I'm amazed by this fact about your height! 🙃
The whole language thing is interesting, because I speak Swedish and Finnish, but I don't speak the hybrid "Finlandssvenska" that Kat's fluent in. I got really confused when she started talking about "fastlagsbullar" because neither me or my Finnish mom heard about it.
Yeah so even though you might not make another reacting to music videos-video. You still should check out Joose Keskitalo- en lähde surussa. Great song and beautiful video. Not the typical type that you have checked out on video but nice never the less.
First of all I want to say that it is great to have you and your family here in Finland. I would like to know what brings to you Finland instead of Sweden for example? I mean, sometimes Sweden is considered somehow like a more advanced Finland with better economy and higher population. Wouldn't there be a better chance to succeed with your careers better than in Finland? Of course there is more anxiety in some areas but anyways. Please note, that I'm not asking this thinking you should have picked up Sweden (or UK) instead but I'm just curious :)
"Too hot to make a vlog." Well, I'm editing a vlog I shot inside a parked car on Thursday when it was 28C in Tampere. After that 1h45min test any vlog is a piece of cake for me from now on 😂
Don’t worry about language, honestly. Children are perfectly capable of picking up up to seven languages in childhood so three languages is not a problem. Your baby might mix them up quite a lot until they’re three but after that they’ll get a lot more fluent.
How do you like perch more than pike perch?(gös/kuha) o.o you're crazy. and yes, i would like to hear your Swedish in a video since i am from Sweden and live in Finland xD (i know the struggles you can have sometimes)
Yeah ,It is way too hot outside and like you, i live in Helsinki so even nights are miserable. That's one "bad" side of living in the big cities that it's always hotter in here than outside of the city. 2 - 4°C to be exact.
@@davecad Okay cmon man, not fair to mention swimming now when we poor lakeless ( i don't think that's even a word ) bastards are melting in here.... gonna go jump from the balcony now
Your kid will become one of those who start talking in English when looking at dad in the breakfast table, then (while turning his head towards mom) automatically changing to Swedish, in the middle of the sentence, even several times, probably without even noticing it. This happens a lot in bilingual families.
If you ever want your baby to learn Finnish properly, you should *definitely* teach the language from a young age. For very simple and practical reasons. First, the older you get, the harder learning languages becomes, and Finnish is a much harder language to learn than either English or Swedish. Secondly, you learn both English and Swedish in Finnish schools to the point of near-fluency, even if your parents don't speak those languages, so your kid is gonna learn both of them anyway, whether you teach them at home or not. Your kid is gonna have a hell of a difficult time trying to even get started on learning Finnish in school, especially if it's not spoken or "needed" at home, and will probably honestly never learn it, at least to full extent. Not trying to tell how to raise your child, but if you want them to ever speak Finnish and they're gonna live in Finland, then leaving it as the last language to learn, especially out of those three options, is probably not a very smart idea.
Kids up to 5 years old can learn up to 6 langues in same time, they can mixing it when kids are younger, but its okay, they will fix that them self when they get older. So kids can talk that in same time and people should talk their langues from first day. There is no reason to think, gets to much for them. English is langues they will learn in school anyways, so its up you parent, if using it from first day ... In case you have, live in Finland, would be good learn kids finnish also if you planing to have kids to finnish talked school... My self thinks kids living in a coutry shall learn also that langues from start, they talks in that country. Becourse of simple reason, be part of the country, they live in...
Happoradio music. 😉 Maybe...Tähtipölyä song from some other singer. How is swedish more easier I wonder. It's so much harder for me. 😅 A lot of gongrats and good luck.
If you someday want, or you have to, look for a job from Finland, this page is official Finnish employment center's own page, where you can find a job: www.te-palvelut.fi/te/en/index.html and here is all job advertisements: paikat.te-palvelut.fi/tpt/ (there is no English versio of this page..) Or go to local center and find a job from there. But only "problem" in those job advertisements, has almost always this; "We require you to have previous work experience, about this same work, OR you have completed vocational training for this profession" + there can be requirement about driver's license etc.
Swedish speaking video would be nice to see but tbh looking forward for that finnish video but i'll understand that you are struggling with the language! :)
Have you got any other questions? Leave them in the comments and I'll reply my answer :)
Where did you live in the UK?
Do you watch Lucifer? 👀 (If you don’t, I deffinitely recommend! It’s literally the best series I’ve ever watched 😍)
I grew up in Surrey but lived in London before we moved to Finland
No but I've been meaning to check it out. Thanks for the tip :)
@@davecad - Surrey?!
that's amazing :0
That kid is going to be super lucky to have parents that both speak different languages. It's really useful to be fluent in 3 languages
Yeah! It'll be fun to see this little dude develop in languages. Probably he'll fluent in all 3 before me xD
Hyvät arvosanat ruotsista ja englannista :p
In their situation there is no guarantee for the kid to speak finnish fluently.
One tip to the parents. At the age of 4-5 have a finnish daycare. That really allowed me to learn to speak finnish quickly. Still not good at reading or writing.
@@viritettykurkkumopo7318 Niin no, ruotsihan tulee olemaan äidinkieli koulussa sit mitä luultavimmin... :D
@@6891x Nii joo varmaa onki
"So you guys speak Finnish, English and Swedish... Which of these languages will the baby speak?"
Baby: "My name on Jani-Petteri och I live in Suomi with min momma och dad"
Edit: Thanks for all the likes, folks. It's enough to make a grown man cry
Huutista
That's how it is at our home :)
I read that with a strong Finnish accent😂
Miten suomalainen puhuu ruotsia
kiljun
Päiväkoti would be best place to learn finnish for the baby
se taitaa olla playschool vai oliko se esikoulu
@@omen4s976 Kindergarten
@@omen4s976 Day care or KinderGarten
Omena player niin se taitaa olla
@@LittleDfan Joo mutta kindergarten ei ole sama asia kuin Suomen päiväkoti. Joten on tässä tapauksessa ehkä paras käyttää tuota sanaa.
I think the best way to teach a child Finnish naturally is to have it watch Finnish tv-shows, read Finnish books or listen to Finnish songs. I've been watching Finnish Moomin and Pikkukakkonen and all those Finnish shows alongside the Swedish ones and Finnish has never been a problem for me. It also helps to introduce the kid to Finnish speaking kids. I had such a friend when I was very little and I tried to interact with him in made-up Finnish before I could speak proper Finnish. My mom has told me it sounded very much like Finnish but was total nonsense 😂 So just speak whatever feels natural for you.
Totally agreed!
I have some Finnish family friends and we used to visit them every year for a week when I was a kid and thanks to that I learned Finnish.
Finland was much more developed than Estonia (where I’m from) back then, so we’d also get all of our DVDs, video games, CDs etc. from Finland. So even when I was at home, I was always somewhat surrounded by the Finnish language (I mean, Moomins were like cocaine to my kid-brain). I never genuinely tried to learn the language, at one point I just realized I could understand it. :)
Sadly, though, I always spoke in Estonian to them (because they had learned Estonian and could understand me) and they’d answer in Finnish, so I’m a bit shy and lack in vocabulary when it comes to talking in Finnish. It has been a while since I visited them, too. I’m still glad that I know as much as I do, though. :)
I have several relatives in bilingual relationships, and the best solution concerning babies' language seems to be that parents speak their native tongue to him/her. This can slow down the beginning of vocal communication overall, but the baby will catch up later. It is important to be very consistent with the language issue, and you'll notice that the baby develops a 'daddy-lingo' and a 'mommy-lingo' and when he/she participates in discussion, the language used will switch automatically depending on the listener. And yeah, Finnish will come later in Finnish environment.
Put the child in “språkbad” kielkylpy (“language-bath”) where it’s both Swedish and Finnish speaking staff and kids. That’s the best solution for the child to learn both Swedish Finnish and then obviously English will come naturally :)
Why? This is not really a good option for children with Swedish-speaking parents in very Finnish-speaking municipalities.
No? I am i språkbad, and my grades go down cause it is hard to learn the things in swedish. And it is not a good option for the babys Finnish language, cause there they speak only swedish.
@@strainedbeef8369 From your story it sound that I am really right about my first opinion. Or then you could try to say what you mean a bit clearer.
The kid will learn Swedish and English at home - the best is that parents use their own language. Through the mother Swedish will always the language of emotions for him/her. Finnish then in daycare, and if they live in Porvoo, it's most natural the kid goes to a Swedish-speaking school. But having learned Finnish in daycare, that doesn't form a problem, with the tv etc. in Finnish. And already having 2 home languages makes the kid good in picking other languages.
timomastosalo So true
Speak all three langauges ALL of you, the kid will figure it out. Our kid speaks English English, Scottish English, a bit of Scots, Swedish and two very different dialects of that and she is totally normal and knows at seven what languages is what. and we both parents speaks both English and Swedish to her.
True, kids do not confuse languages AS LING AS YOU SPEAK THE WHOLE SENTENCE IN CORRECT GRAMMAR.
Your kid WILL recognise its name even if it is pronounced differently (or completely wrong, as in my son's case). A name that is written more or less phonetically is perhaps the best bet. For example, Tommi & Tommy do not have the same pronunciation but are very similar and my name, Annika sounds similar regardless what nationality person has pronounced it. (Some might ask if it is spelt with 1 or 2 x N - double N makes it phonetic for E flush speakers.) I guess there are more short names that are international but a long name like Maximilian (Max for short) would hardly be mispronounced in Europe. However, think also about having to write a long name daily and fitting it into the space of formal documents.
@@oakstrong1 Oh yes they will, understand the name, correct people and also when speaking English pronounce their classmates names correctly according to English. Dylan goes from Dyll-Anne to Dillian and Lennox from Lenn- Oxe to Lennock, which confuses her friends but they accept it.
@S F Doesnt matter they say, kids brain are better on languages then adults.
@S F That depends on the help they get , schooling and also the people around them. I have friends who are fluent in both and there is no problems. Some have even picked up 1- 3 languages more as adults.
Hi Dave. My mum's Finnish and dad's English. I grew up from 0-10 in England and both spoke English to me. We moved to Helsinki in 76 and I learned Finnish at school in Munkkivuori. Mum and I have spoken Finnish with each other ever since, even though we moved to Holland in '79. Dad still doesn't speak Finnish.
Keep up the sterling work. And yes, perch is delicious, especially smoked.
Yes please do a 24 hours speaking only swedish challenge!
Cat speaks swedish you speak english and finnish the kid will learn anyway since he is living in here. That would be most logical thing to do, but can't watch the vid now
Nailed it :D
Well I've been living in Finland my whole life and I can't speak finnish😂😂
@@evelina270 just know how to say Perkele and its fine
@@cykablin4871 According to Ismo Leikola, "no niin" should work for about 90% of all discussions / situations.
@your alien overlord well where i live we don't really have to know finnish bc everybody speaks swedish. I've tried to learn but it's hard.
This is for all the Finnish speakers. You learn Finnish in Swedish speaking school and/or in life in general. Example my step-sister went to Swedish speaking school even tho her whole family is Finn speaking. She learned Swedish only in couple of months. This is not rocket science.
I love how you compliment Cat throughout the video and keep saying how beautiful she is. It's true of course but it's also really cute and wonderful to hear a man compliment his pregnant wife and I'm sure she appreciates it too. 😊
Thank goodness you finished your drink. Was worried you'd spill it all over. You were swirling it around quite a lot for a while.
Hahaha this always happens xD
You should speak finnish to the baby too as when it goes to school it will be much harder to learn finnish when it's older. I have a second cousin that only speaks english and sweadish and lives in finland. It is really hard for her to live every day life only speaking sweadish and english and she feels like she is missing out a lot of things in here. Her mom is finnish-sweadish and dad is american. She does not feel much connection to the finnish culture and she said that she would like to feel that connection by speaking the language. She said that she probably will move to sweaden when she is old enough and said that she is really sad that she can't feel that connection in here. She always said that she hopes that her mother had taught her finnish as a baby so she could speak it too like the rest of her moms side of family.
T H bollocks. The child will probably learn Finnish in kindergarten. It’s better for the child if parents are consistent in speaking their 1st languages to the kid, instead of speaking non-fluent Finnish.
@@baztz well what if they decide to put the child into a sweadish kindergarten tho. My second cousin was put into one and she speaks pretty much beginner finnish.
Yes, it's way too hot for me. It's 30 degrees here in Espoo right now and 29 degrees inside. I slept about 4 hours last night. Great all of you who can enjoy the heat, I can't. I enjoy the spring, the autumn and the winter. I'd rather have -20 degrees than +30. But good video, always nice to watch a Q&A video once in a while.
I really liked the way you explained feeling alienated by language barriers, it really made me think. To be honest, I’d be terrified to even go to the store! You’re a really cool guy, and I’m proud of you for the progress you’ve already made with Finnish. I’m rooting for you, you’re actually doing so good! I hope I’ll meet you some day, I’d like to say all of this in person. Thanks for existing Dave
Loved the way you speaked about your soon to be due wife. I've watched your videos about a year now, but only now you earned a sub. We had a son 13th of june and the name took 6 weeks to settle between us parents. In two weeks it will be official. Happy expecting, it is a wonderful time in a mans life.
When you're going to have the small critter, you should rename your channel to "Dave Dad"
Joking! I love you. :DD
Hahah... maybe Cave dad... let's see :D
@@davecad - heck yes :'D💕
"It`s too hot to care" has been a big mood these past few days.
I'd say you should talk at least frases in finnish. It would make the learning of finnish easier later.
Bilingual is one of the greatest gifts I could think of :)
Maybe put the kid through Finnish school and daycare? And make him watch tv in Finnish and read Finnish books. It should be easier to learn Finnish like that, in stead of actually studying the language at older age - which is pretty hard.
Best is to speak your most fluent language to the kid, and be systematic, Kat should speak Swedish, and you English. The kid will pick them both, as long as you're chatty. Kids learning 2 languages at home, will be good in languages in general. The Swiss are famous for this. Speaking only a bit might cause a so called half-language, the kid knows only about half of both. Rarely happens with mother, but if the father is away a lot, or is very quiet, the kid might not learn that language properly. And again, with English there wouldn't be such problem - except then your kid would learn more the AmE :) Like I guess most Finns resemble that more than the BrE when they speak.
I grew up with my stepfather speaking English with me. My sister speaking Swedish to me. My Mother speaking Finnish to me. Society speaking mostly Swedish to me. I speak all three. There was no problems apart from my Finnish being a bit worse than the other two due to lack of exposure to it from others. All it did was make me really advanced in all the languages at a very young age and made learning other languages easier, while making me sound like a native in all three and able to adopt just about any accent I wish, even in languages I don't actually speak. Don't underestimate your child. Start high and lower your bar only if necessary.
I did however have a period of having a strange hybrid language just with my mother, where I would (intentionally) replace Finnish words with Swedish ones and apply Finnish grammatical rules on them whenever there was a word I was missing, simply because I wanted to keep the conversations fluid and understandable, not to mention keeping it on the high level I desired. I still speak with a Finno-Swedish accent with her if I speak Swedish with her or any other Finn, while immediately switching to Rikssvenska with regular Swedes.
But yeah like people have suggested - just on account of living in Finland, just putting your child in a Finnish-speaking school and pre-school with Finnish speaking staff and maybe some Swedish speaking ones should be good enough to get the Finnish out of the way, while Cat can maybe help ensure her Swedish develops at a steady pace and you can give the child a headstart with English before school and the child's future online life.
Nice Q&A!
I wish you would do one more music video video, I loved them! If you end up doing it and wonder who to listen to, my suggestions would be:
1. Dance with the Dragon by Dark Sarah ft. J.P Leppäluoto. The song is incredible and has an interesting backstory
2. Bittersweet by Apocalyptica ft. Lauri Ylönen and Ville Valo. It is a beautiful piece made by a rock cello quartet that features some singers I remember you like.
3. Valot pimeyksien reunoilla by Apulanta. It is a great song packed with wisdom.
Have a good one!
For the person that was asking about working in Finland with not much Finnish: You can search on Linkedin and Monster for job adverts in English. Also, there are LOTS of Facebook groups for jobseekers that are moving to Finland. Do a search by city and you'll see them. Good luck!
I love it how beautifully you speak about Cat :)
Soooo, saunapäivä out of the house 😂😂😂😂
Btw my daughter speaks american english (before she spoke only Indonesian, then only Finnish and now only English 🤔 me Indonesian, my husband speaks finnish and we’re waiting my son start talking, excited which language he is going to pick. Yeahh at the end, they will choose the most convenient language to communicate.
I would love to see that Swedish speaking vlog 😄 (I’m a Swedish speaking Finn) And the heat wave is all over Finland. I’m up in Vaasa and it’s just too much 🙈
Yes! Do a video in swedish! It would be interesting and at the same time I could test my swedish too :D
Either way BOTH! CHILDREN learn so much before they know that they are learning. It just is so normal to them to hear multiple leagues... they don't know the difference. Once they start school.... Yep this is where u need to teach them♥️
you could learn finnish same time with your baby.
Just act like one of those helicopter parents(?) and get a Finnish education.
11:54 OK I NEED A DAVE CAD AS MY HUSBAND. PERIOD. END OF DISCUSSION.
SO PURE, SO AMAZING. I CAN SEE HOW YOU LOVE HER.
Question: will you visit the north of Finland or even central Finland - I hear that the accent in Jyväskylä is one of the best to learn!
I'd love to go to Lapland during the summer but it looks as though I won't make it this year. I REALLY want to experience the midnight sun (and maybe pan for some gold!)
@@davecad and beware of the midges (there is a Finnish word for these small winged pests but I cannot remember it)
@@sarekosti72 sadly I seem to give off a pheromone in my sweat that attracts these buggers and the ones in Scotland at least bite.
If you go 2 languages, I would say Finnish + English is the most logical combo. Learning Swedish later will be much easier than learning Finnish later in life. But your child, your choice.
Well if the mother is a swedish speaking Finn, then of course she speaks swedish to her child. I'm one aswell, and I would never in a million years speak a language that isn't my mother tongue to my child.
@@johanna_na Yes.. why speak your other native tongue that most people in your country use. All my Swedish speaking Finn-friends are fluent in both Swedish and Finnish, but I was merely pointing out the fact that if one knows English it's much easier to learn Swedish, because they're quite similar, but Finnish on the other hand, is very different. As a father of 3, I was thinking what I feel could be the very best scenario for the child, though as a Finnish speaking Finn I'm biased towards _my_ native language, just like you're biased towards yours.
Learning as many languages as one can, is naturally very good. Both for communication and for one's intellectual development.
Do you manage with only using Swedish in non-Swedish speaking areas of Finland? Because I know there are plenty of people who simply refuse to use Swedish at all, even if they are fairly proficient in it. (Same sometimes applies with Finnish in Swedish speaking areas.)
Only 5% speak swedish in finland so speaking finnish is a needed thing there
@@MrK- It's actually not. There are plenty of areas in this country where only swedish is spoken, and you actually struggle to be understood in Finnish. Not to mention Åland
Heidi Sherbet learning finnish is way more important. In all the important plases we speak finnish. No one cares about if some small towns in middle of nowhere speak swedish. And there arent anymore any officially only swedish speaking areas anymore only finnish or bilingual.
34°C - child's play - here in Bielefeld on Thursday we had 39°C and I spent most of the afternoon lying in a darkened room having a very very long siesta. In our region we had the highest temperatures ever recorded at over 42°C - thankfully it has cooled to a reasonable 34°C at the moment!
Oooooof! Now that's hot!
@@davecad it was and the summer is barely started.
My cousin had put her kids into a German speaking kindergarten, followed by an English pre-school and a Finnish elementary school, and they spoke Finnish at home. The kids are normal, they just can speak basic German and English, even more or less fluently. Just saying, your kid will be fine even with a lot of languages around.
And you'll be a great dad, don't stress about the small mistakes and don't let Cat stress about them either, babies are surprisingly durable. Love, Care, Hug, Talk, Listen, and stick your tongue out for a silly face. Remember to clean occasionally, try not to teach them to fear bugs by freaking out about the bugs, and let them explore the world, get dirty, get little scratches and scrapes, let them bump into stuff, but child proof the hardest and actually dangerous edges and *corners* , and *never ever* yell at them (angrily, calling after them is fine). You'll have to be the mature one and handle situations calmly with talking, offer explanations, don't be afraid to say "I don't know, let's look it up".
I think that's everything I can offer, the rest is up to you and Cat to decide. The kid is yours after all. (Still, I really hope you decide to listen to your doctors and keep up with the vaccination schedule like they recommend. If anything worries you, talk to them. I also hope you can keep a good freedom/boundaries balance, as that creates a balance of being happy and being well behaved enough to function in the society.) You two are wonderful parents, you'll be fine.
Edit: formatting, the wall of words was looking rather awful.
FYI I happen to know a little girl here whose mum speaks English to her and her dad speaks Finnish. She speaks Finnish at day care but she has taken English lessons (even though she seems to understand English perfectly). At least right now she talks to both of her parents in Finnish which is sometimes a hard thing for her mum since she doesn't speak Finnish fluently. Maybe when she learns more English at school and matures she might use more English with her mum.
You should defienetly teach also finnish to baby because then his/her life will be million times easier in Finland
Well, at least you made a good choice in the regards that Finland is one of the most English-friendly countries in the world. Like about 70% of Finnish people are able to hold a conversation in English since everyone learns it at school from the age of 9 onward. And the level of English proficiency keeps rising at such a fast pace that English tests at the college level for example have to be made harder practically every year, so getting by with English is only going to get easier in Finland. One good way to give your kid a head start to learning Finnish would be to show him Finnish children's shows with English or Swedish subtitles once he/she learns to read. My own parents showed me English cartoons with Finnish subtitles when I was a child, so I already started to have some grasp of English by the time I was 6-7.
My brother’s mom talks italian to them and my dad talks swedish and I talk finnish 😂😂 my dad and my stepmom talk english together so they learn that too. Your baby will be absolutely fine, don’t worry about the hate you might be getting x
Luckily in Australia, we are a country of Immigrants, so a foreign accent is the norm.... you would be surprised how many people have a second language. If you both speak your mother tongue, the baby will pick up any language spoken.... good luck from this Aussie dad.
My British husband learnt Finnish very well. I can hear that your pronunciation in Finnish is good that is very important. You just have to use hours and hours and you'll learn. What my husband did he learnt 10 words a day (280 a month etc.). Write them down somewhere and read them many times a day and say them aloud and your vocabulary will get bigger and bigger 😊
Was going to suggest an idea. Before the baby arrives, do a video of you and your Lady talking to the bump for his 18th birthday. Something like "You're watching this on your 18th birthday, but it's XYZ date in 2019 and you aren't born yet." A cool little time capsule :)
Absolutely sensible to speak native languages to the baby - and with the added bonus of living in Finland that he or she will pick up Finnish anyway. Basically a no-brainer.
Your kid will have the opportunity to speak three languages, especially when one of them is so difficult to learn( finnish of course)! I wish I was so lucky. P.S It' s so strange and funny to see people in northen countries going crazy for high temperatures cause I live in Southern Europe and summer is like staying in sauna for all day long( from june to august)
The way you talk about Cat... staaaaahhhppp
Wow you really speak more in a finland-swedish accent. Sounds good. 😊
He is talking finland swedish not swedish.
@@Siriskanal Ok, wasnt that what I said. :-) I havent heard him speak swedish before, so it could have been more like swedish.
@@Dragontrumpetare You talk about accent. I talk about a finish variant of swedish.
Kiitos videosta. You shoud try finnis childrens songs. There are a lot of them. Then you know what to play for your baby.:)
Wow you're 194cm?? For some reason I also thought that you would be a bit shorter :D Feeling like a manlet at 185cm now :D
As a linguist, I thought I knew something about bilingual language development, but it turns out some of the things I thought I knew were outdated beliefs. I found an article which looks at the scientific evidence and tries to answer questions like: "Is it best for each parent to speak only one language with a bilingual child?" and "Should parents avoid mixing languages together?" If anyone wants to check out that article, search for "Bilingualism in the Early Years: What the Science Says" by Krista Byers-Heinlein and Casey Lew-Williams.
We speak mostly english at home, but my husband speaks a lot of finnish with my child :D then daycare and grandparents speaking mostly finnish with her too :) sometimes I sprinkle some german words in, but overall we keep it to english and finnish, she is 4 years old now and pretty much fluent (as fluent as any 4 year old is with their mothertongue) in both ^^
here in northern Finland it feels like hell as well.
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I agree with many of the comments. You shouldn't leave teaching the kid Finnish until they go to school, since it will be A LOT harder for them to learn it then. Although it might sound weird, it's actually much easier for a child to learn new languages the younger they are. Even if it's just the basics you should help them get a basic understanding of Finnish before they go to school, otherwise there might be complications such as bullying (as other comments have said, kids can be mean).
Really waiting for a video where you speak Swedish 😍😁 Du kan nog!
i would love to see a video in swedish! im finlandssvensk myself :)
speak Finnish to your baby and can you Make More trying Finnish alcohol Dave i am big fan of you
Have you tried yet eat tonko (we say here in norteast tonko) or tammukka? It's a hybrid between rainbowtrout and trout. It's absolutely great stiffsalted or smoked and better tasting than any other fish made same ways.
I actually thought you're quite short! 😅 Turns out you're exactly just as tall as me, by the centimeter! Maybe it's because you're sitting so much while filming and there's no reference to body size. Although height doesn't actually matter in any way, nor does skin colour. But still, I'm amazed by this fact about your height! 🙃
"Tiny little THING"
Dave what are you thinking?
The whole language thing is interesting, because I speak Swedish and Finnish, but I don't speak the hybrid "Finlandssvenska" that Kat's fluent in. I got really confused when she started talking about "fastlagsbullar" because neither me or my Finnish mom heard about it.
Yeah so even though you might not make another reacting to music videos-video. You still should check out Joose Keskitalo- en lähde surussa. Great song and beautiful video. Not the typical type that you have checked out on video but nice never the less.
A 4:30am upload (US), so I guess that I have to watch this before I fall asleep. Pulling my leg!😁
Hahah good luck! :D
What is ur favourite energy drink?
I’d be fun if you this time didint react to pop but some iskelmä or traditional finnish music :)
First of all I want to say that it is great to have you and your family here in Finland. I would like to know what brings to you Finland instead of Sweden for example? I mean, sometimes Sweden is considered somehow like a more advanced Finland with better economy and higher population. Wouldn't there be a better chance to succeed with your careers better than in Finland? Of course there is more anxiety in some areas but anyways. Please note, that I'm not asking this thinking you should have picked up Sweden (or UK) instead but I'm just curious :)
You should do "reacting to finnish children songs" video :D
You should teach your baby to speak English with a heavy Finnish accent
"Too hot to make a vlog." Well, I'm editing a vlog I shot inside a parked car on Thursday when it was 28C in Tampere. After that 1h45min test any vlog is a piece of cake for me from now on 😂
Yes, speak all of the languages!
Don’t worry about language, honestly. Children are perfectly capable of picking up up to seven languages in childhood so three languages is not a problem. Your baby might mix them up quite a lot until they’re three but after that they’ll get a lot more fluent.
So the kid will speak swenglish?
Yes do a vid in Sweedish!
How do you like perch more than pike perch?(gös/kuha) o.o you're crazy. and yes, i would like to hear your Swedish in a video since i am from Sweden and live in Finland xD (i know the struggles you can have sometimes)
Kuha ei itsessään maistu muutako puulta mutta oikeilla mausteilla ihan hyvää mutta ahven on parempaa
Jag skulle älska om du gjorde en full video på svenska för är mitt modersmål och jag är personligen finlandsvensk!
Om svenska är ditt modersmål har du ännu lite arbete med det 😉
Bott i Sverige - och alla talar svenska där ! Det tar ett år att lärä sig svenska - oberoende - vilket land ock bakgrund Du kommer ifrån !
Yeah ,It is way too hot outside and like you, i live in Helsinki so even nights are miserable. That's one "bad" side of living in the big cities that it's always hotter in here than outside of the city. 2 - 4°C to be exact.
Thankfully we're at the summer house at the moment and we're going back to the city when it cools down.... gonna go jump in the lake now :D
@@davecad Okay cmon man, not fair to mention swimming now when we poor lakeless ( i don't think that's even a word ) bastards are melting in here.... gonna go jump from the balcony now
är cat finlandssvensk? det visste jag inte :)
hej Dave hade varit kul om du gjorde en på svenska!jag följer dej från skåne!vänliga hälsningar Jarmo !
Here in Hamburg we had above 30° the whole week
Your kid will become one of those who start talking in English when looking at dad in the breakfast table, then (while turning his head towards mom) automatically changing to Swedish, in the middle of the sentence, even several times, probably without even noticing it. This happens a lot in bilingual families.
We will buy a motorbike to my litle sister grow up litle bit more!!!!
My litle sister is 1years old!
Ya, it is pretty hot out there 😅 (I also live in sourthen finland)
37,7 according to the thermometer here... oooof
Dave Cad oof, I’m not exactly sure what’s the temperature here for sure, but according to my phone, it’s 25 celsius in here 🤷🏻♀️
What is the best thing in finland
34°C in Finland? I didn't know that was a thing.
If you are not planning to move to Sweden, then i would prefer speaking Finnish to the baby and learn some Swedish on the side and school.
But why wouldn’t the baby learn Swedish when it’s the mother tongue of its mother and parts of its family? Seems only natural to me
ester n because theyre in finland where the main language is finnish.
If you ever want your baby to learn Finnish properly, you should *definitely* teach the language from a young age. For very simple and practical reasons. First, the older you get, the harder learning languages becomes, and Finnish is a much harder language to learn than either English or Swedish. Secondly, you learn both English and Swedish in Finnish schools to the point of near-fluency, even if your parents don't speak those languages, so your kid is gonna learn both of them anyway, whether you teach them at home or not. Your kid is gonna have a hell of a difficult time trying to even get started on learning Finnish in school, especially if it's not spoken or "needed" at home, and will probably honestly never learn it, at least to full extent.
Not trying to tell how to raise your child, but if you want them to ever speak Finnish and they're gonna live in Finland, then leaving it as the last language to learn, especially out of those three options, is probably not a very smart idea.
Toffer Tsai finnish is more important
Kids up to 5 years old can learn up to 6 langues in same time, they can mixing it when kids are younger, but its okay, they will fix that them self when they get older. So kids can talk that in same time and people should talk their langues from first day. There is no reason to think, gets to much for them.
English is langues they will learn in school anyways, so its up you parent, if using it from first day ... In case you have, live in Finland, would be good learn kids finnish also if you planing to have kids to finnish talked school...
My self thinks kids living in a coutry shall learn also that langues from start, they talks in that country.
Becourse of simple reason, be part of the country, they live in...
Well the baby is going to be good in english (in school)
Please do a video in swedish!🍎🍎
Maybe a collaboration video/videos with Lumo asunnot 😃
When you do a Finnish challenge would you have subtitles in English ?
Happoradio music. 😉
Maybe...Tähtipölyä song from some other singer.
How is swedish more easier I wonder. It's so much harder for me. 😅
A lot of gongrats and good luck.
I live in middle finland but i was born in southern finland
Im on middle bc of school
If you someday want, or you have to, look for a job from Finland, this page is official Finnish employment center's own page, where you can find a job: www.te-palvelut.fi/te/en/index.html and here is all job advertisements: paikat.te-palvelut.fi/tpt/ (there is no English versio of this page..) Or go to local center and find a job from there. But only "problem" in those job advertisements, has almost always this; "We require you to have previous work experience, about this same work, OR you have completed vocational training for this profession" + there can be requirement about driver's license etc.
Swedish speaking video would be nice to see but tbh looking forward for that finnish video but i'll understand that you are struggling with the language! :)
YES please make a video in Swedish!
Just look at Keith Armstrong, he's done well without ever learning proper Finnish grammar.
Alla språk ni kan ! ................
Is your blog going to be about your baby ..from now on? ..
..vlog ..? ..