The next chapter of LISA comes in the form of a fangame, LISA the POINTLESS. Get the game here: gamejolt.com/ga... SOCIAL MEDIA / nitroradofficial / nitrorad
The game being harder is probably because Alex uses a fake martial art, Velvet Fu which he only saw 1 tape of it on repeat. Brad has been training and teaching Armstrong Style for most of his entire life.
@Bradley Harrison i like to think that as the chapters go on, Alex's style becomes a lot more pragmatic and reserved - that can already be seen with the shift from an advancing stance in his twentys to his receding stance of middle age. maybe something like sweeping the feet of enemies with a kick instead of the goat hoove maneuver. call it "burlap fu," or something
idk man the enemies they fought are legit dangerous ones like joy mutant chaz a warlord that can walk into the walls Silvester de Maistre and ofc cola can with hitler moustache
@@alperenakdas3479 Chaz was immobile, Silvester was a minor warlord who only knows basic fighting moves and relies on magic (which is defeated by a bottle) and the only reason Arnold is relatively hard is because he's armed and knows an actual martial art instead of making stuff up
It'd be quite an effort to try and make the final product without some type of backing, but so far for just a third or so of the game this is pretty incredible.
MMS Octo Miner He recently made a comment. He likes it, but feels there are too many pervs and the art is just TOO nice to be a Lisa game. And as far as cannon goes he just said "Anything and everything is canon".
NitroRad This reminds me of suits, you know, the pay the enemy attack. You can use it rarely but it's an insta win. That's kinda sad to hear, but maybe you can find another one later on, who knows :P
Using the bullet would mean that he would be useless after that. So like an insta-kill move that you can use whenever and with whomever but at the expense of that party member...
Way too late for this party but now that I’m completely invested in this series and fangame, I found a really neat detail regarding the flashback sequence! So in the present day, Alex is exactly like Brad, right? Martial artist, uses WASD combos, and uses the SP system for special moves. But during the flashback, Alex is using TP for his moves. It could be a subtle detail in that Alex’ moves aren’t connecting because he’s a novice using a very complex fighting style, (his aunt gave him the Grandmaster tape), so he’s not following the style correctly. Only once he’s old and forced to fight does he actually connect his moves and re-hone his skills. Again that’s a detail that seems like something straight out of LISA, using the gameplay itself to intricately tell a story. Absolutely love it!
Nice, but it's universally agreed (IIRC even by the developer in the Discord channel) that Alex's moves couldn't connect due to the other guy actually being a competent martial artist, while Alex is cocky and uses a bullshit style. This game contrasts to the original LISA in that it's about lame people fighting lame people, not strong competent survivors fighting actual treats. Even the joy mutants are softballs compared to the Painful.
I think the main reason Alex was missing in the flashback like that is also mostly because of the opponent's fighting style. He uses an Aikido stance, Aikido being a martial art focused around counters, joint locks, and essentially using your opponents weaknesses against themselves to throw them around. It's a great defence around Alex's striking focused moves, redirecting his attacks and using them to throw him to the ground, ending the match. It's not established what kind of tournament it is, I assume MMA, I'm not familiar with rules of things like this, but I imagine using something that isn't Kung Fu in a Kung Fu match is probably a no no and such. I don't think it's considered an illegal move here or else he would have been disqualified or something, so Alex really did lose for simply not being good enough, or cheating if you choose the groin kick.
If we're doing comment necro, I'll just point out as a member of the Pointless community that Alex's switch to an SP-based combo style has more to do with the fact that SP is more defensive while TP incentivizes dealing and taking damage and is thus more aggressive. Either due to being old, or due to being humbled by his big fight against Stan Curien, Alex switched his entire approach to his fighting style.
Painful: Good game, but do you guys have Pain Mode? Pointless: Pain Mode? Painful: Yeah, you know, a mode that makes the game harder? Pointless: What? Painful: Do I need to explain it to you even further? Isn’t the name already obvious on what it should mean?! Pointless: Oh! You mean Normal Mode?
As a Lithuanian who left my country, I intimately understand the garbage island metaphor. That aside, I'm still strangely proud to be from the same small country as the creator :^)
Kudos on pronouncing Olathe correctly. EDIT: The flags of the German Democratic Republic and Soviet Union can be seen in the background of the martial arts tournament which sets this flashback anywhere from 197X to 1990. Also, I don't think Alex really has what you'd call "regular eyes," he's got a thousand-yard Stanley Kubrick stare (while Joel has a Jim Croce moustache).
@@robinmattheussen2395 Martial Arts really came into the popular consciousness in the 70's with the release of Enter the Dragon in theaters and I would take it that Alex became enamored with them by watching Kung Fu movies so it's most likely that the flashback sequence where he gets DQ'd at the tournament takes place during the late 80's.
I'm not really sure about the thousand-yard stare with Alex Whenever you face forward, he's not looking directly at the camera, and it comes off as awkward rather than per say Brad's sprite, which never even shows his eyes It's just my two cents: Alex has been through some shit, goes through some shit, but in the end, he can redeem himself.
Traditional story with genious writting, i mean, the one bullet, an insta-win, no matter how powerful your enemy is, and the guy who has it can't use it but in a fight *he could totally use it*
Zak The Dragon I dunno, I think it has to do that Taitoki got mad at some criticism some others said about the person's game concepts in one of the Discords.
@@thestranger4894 what about the truck of bodies?, the truck of bodies, hey cobalt, Joel's asking where the bodies come from?, do you know who killed them?, no?, how about you, sociophatic wastelander that just killed this guy at random in a place full of people like you?, where did those bodies come from?, who did this?
I'd say this is a good comparison. I don't know, that said I genuinely want to make my own personal major game development project feel like three separate games, so I guess there's a lot to cover here.
@@garrettoliva5154 Well it certainly SOUNDS like a substantial amount! I'm hyped, even if I can't currently afford the game, just to see how amazing it turns out!
lisa the pointless is incredible. the amount of work that was put into this fangame is unreal. the atmosphere in this game is like no other. the horror elements, the disturbing character designs, the blood and grime everywhere you look and the mystery of the infinity franchise. its all just so great. for those that think the game has been abandoned, from what it looks like ed is still working on it but chapter 2 has been delayed bc he's working on a huge remake of chapter 1 with a new intro sequence, mechanics and updated spritework. it looks incredible and i cant wait to play it
The game is very well made and gives back the feeling of LISA games perfectly. The fact that you have to choose your battles carefully also makes sense, neither Alex nor Joel are joy addicts (?) so it would make sense that they are not killing machines like Brad or Buddy. Story and gameplay integration was one of the best things LISA had to offer and this fangame follows that very well. The music also fits extremely well. I also really liked Joel's combat mechanics: original and related to the character which is also very LISA like. Obviously it requires some bug fixes and the difficulty should be tweaked so that players can explore all the content. There's a LOT of work put into this and it shows, so it would make sense to let people explore everything. I honestly think this could be made official since it doesn't interfere with the original canon (as far as I know). Great stuff I really hope this get developed further, if this was just a demo imagine what a full game would look like.
Alex and joel arent joy addicts but georgy is after getting to the desert he gets a joy withdrawl also he leaves the hotel room with the guy that gives you joy so that may sugest that he bought joy from him
Here's whats up in the bullets, I know you corected yourself in a later video, but here: Joel has the most powerful kind of gun in Olathe, and the bullets are VERY rare. with it, It's like a one-shot wonder, which is his class. He is almost garanteed a kill. Bullets for the gun are rare possibly due to the bullets being used excessively in the beginning, only to run out in a month or so and making the bullets EXTREMELY. RARE. This is why he only tried to use the gun once in the whole of chapter one.
The fact he mentioned Off and Space Funeral fan games makes me want to see him do videos on Home, Continue Stop Rise and Earthbirth. Like, I REALLY want to see those videos...
Hey Nitrorad Dodge avoids allmost all attacks excepet for ranged and fire... If you use taunt with Joel then dodge... Joel is targeted and you take NO DAMAGE.
I was just watching your review of Lisa the painful yesterday then watched your review of Lisa the joyful this morning and now this shows up?? I'm in love
I keep hearing about LISA from everywhere now; Dunkey made a video on it, Cr1tikal's friend Andrew mentioned it on his podcast, and now there's a huge fan-game for it? Damn dude. Nice to see this game's getting the popularity it deserves.
Hey Nitro, just wanted to let you know I found your channel via youtube recommending Lisa videos, I ended up spending the next 5 hours watching your Silent Hill reviews, 3D Platformers, Rayman, Siren, and various Yume Nikki videos. I love your style, its just really calm and you like to bring up sources and try not to get too emotional, and thank you for giving Silent Hill Downpour some love. Keep it up man, I have no doubt your channel is just going to get bigger and bigger
IMO the gameplay would benefit greatly if Alex didnt have such high SP cost to his techniques, you waste too many turns recovering your SP which feels really unfair when your enemies rarely ever have to waste turns in such way and to add insult to injury the recovery stances have negative side effects so you are not just wasting your turn to make yourself useful again you are also effectively drawing yourself closer to defeat, its just too much
But you can decrease SP cost by equping chamions belt which is found in mud village and by using twisted stance it also recovers almost all SP for 150 hp and 50 if alex is already twisted thats a lot
I finally finished Lisa the Pointless after 5 years of being put off by the absurd difficulty. Accidentally fell off a plateau? Well I hope you enjoy doing the last five ball-busting fights all over again. Gameplay aside, I felt like Pointless is a very different piece stylistically when compared to Painful. The spritework is far more detailed, and that detail is used to make everything grimy as all hell. It honestly feels much more dismal and hopeless compared to Painful's frequent gags and whimsical moments. And that's another part of what makes it hard to get through, there's no break from the misery. Even the "funny" parts come across as despressing. In the end though, I'm glad to have finally finished the game. Although I nearly had a stroke from that one mutant who killed me with only 10 HP left.
2:27 I LOVE your delivery in this scene! Idk why, it's just stuck with me ever since I first saw this video. 4:21 Same goes for this scene! I mean you can just feel the energy!
One thing I love about lisa the pointless is that the game is really easy if you are good at minding your own business. there are only 6 required fights, and one continues if you lose, so you just have to ignore all the wierdos and keep moving forward.
@@shinobidaniel_12 ussy and yes, there's only six mandatory fights in vanilla pointless there's pedro, dex, roland, vinny and lin, either kirf or anaconda, and chet blur
I would say a boss, as i can imagine a Joy Mutant Nitro Rad, with any of the badass boss themes in the trilogy. And yes of course, Joy Mutant Nitro Rad would show his braces in a pretty messed up way!
If anyone is curious about getting the soundtrack, look up Taitoki on soundcloud. He's got songs from the Pointless spread out across multiple soundtracks. Most of the songs are from the multiple soundtracks he made for fangames that failed due to developer issues, so I'm really glad to see his talents get put to good use in this game.
You should do a video on the chapter 2 when it comes out. If you watch the new intro you'll see Ed almost remade the whole thing, it looks like a thousand times better...
Now the chapter 1 of Lisa the pointless is getting a remake in development and for now only can see the intro and compare to the original version well the new version get so much new content,so much details and see more story in the characters (especially the girlfriend of Alex called Chie).
It's too late to tell you, but i'm leaving this there for anyone else who stops by. It tries for emotion, but so far feels a lot less meaningful then painful or joyful.
i know i'm three years too late but it's definitely less emotionally investing and the stakes are considerably lower. in painful you're trying to protect the last chance humanity has, sacrificing everything you have just to do that for example, but in pointless you're just some guy trying to find somewhere that's not as terrible as everywhere else and sometimes you risk your life. the only really tragic thing that happens to alex is the martial arts tourney. while definitely relatable, it's not as crushing to the player as say brad's death in painful or the fight with brad in joyful, and i feel this is a very good example as to how emotional pointless's story so far is
or maybe he just accidentaly deleted the entire code for his new game and then went on a pointless rampage destroying everyone of his fans hopes for him
+Boxcar Boy From what I can tell, in the space of about 3 twitter threads, he : 1. Felt the notion of white guilt wasn't entirely unjustified. 2. Wouldn't identify himself being for white pride because he felt the idea itself was based in racism. 3. Justified those views in that he felt individualism was a very idealist worldview and that race unfortunately have defined social implications that people should take care to acknowledge. It was hardly what I'd call a meltdown, he actually delivered it and handled the arguments that came after all pretty lax. Even still let it serve as a reminder to us all posting your personal opinions on race or religion online is no way to make friends.
Lisa is by far one if my favorite rpg maker game, and i'll be honest, the ending to lisa had me shaking and numb, I just wanted the ending to be anything else then what happened, but it kept going with the ending. It felt like a slap in the face, and that is not a bad thing. If anything it's a good thing, it made me remember the game even more then I expected. Thank god extra credits does the "Games you may not of tried" series, otherwise I might not of heard of Lisa the painful rpg.
08:32 It's kinda strange ad surreal to see a post-apocalyptic game with a deuteragonist whose name is Joel Miller way long before The Last of Us part 2. He even use a revolver as a weapon of choice.
holy shit dude your acting during that bit about Joel's one unusable bullet is fuckin incredible. I can't stop thinking about Joel acting just like that.
Man, thanks for telling me about this fan game. After LISA: The Hintful fell through, I just abandoned the hope for a LISA fan game to come out, but this looks great. I just hope they're able to get a Mac version out eventually.
There was this abominably powerful combo that made the game super easy for me. Anaconda Virtue was a pushover in my experience, and if I remember correctly, it's Goat Kick + Hoof.
Thanks so much for making this video! Without it, I'd never know that there was a game to fill the empty hole in my life that was left after I played both LISA games! Keep making vids!
I disagree but whatever, perhaps it's a worthless discussion because all of the people I've spoken to largely just whine about how popular Undertale is and never give any reason why they prefer LISA over it. Oh and memes, despite there being 2 memes in the game, and a bunch spawned from the game which makes sense since the internet loves it and likes to make memes. I'd be willing to have a proper discussion, but I've played both and you're not changing my mind.
I hope he finds out the expansion mod of this this game called Scholar of Wilbur Sin it adds more party members, secrets, and more save options to ease the difficulty
Hnestly this game wasn't going for a "pain mode" vibe pain mode, pain mode was really the only reason I found Lisa challenging the normal non pain mode is easy as shit (I love LISA to death by the way) and pan mode is, kinda mild this fucking game it's POINTLESS (eh eh?) to try, it's dark souls of turn based RPGs Ok that might be an exaggeration if pain mode was mild, this is hard.
I don't remember being able to save everywhere in Lisa the painful. I thought that was the point. The sacrifices were far from the saves so it was a chore to reset
As amazed as I am to know there's a good fangame, I'm more amazed by your camera quality. It looks like the highest quality camera I've seen anyone ever use lol
This is the first time I've seen a LISA fan game reach this far in development. A lot of the other fangames were cancelled, left unfinished, or not even started. To see a real LISA fan game be able to bloom like this is just... amazing.
Hey man, just discovered your channel today. I need to say i am impressed with the amount of effort and care you put in all the videos ive seen so far. It is rare for a small channel to put this much work into their videos and it is very refreshing and inspiring to see for other aspiring creators. You just earned a sub, i wish you the best of luck!
The game being harder is probably because Alex uses a fake martial art, Velvet Fu which he only saw 1 tape of it on repeat. Brad has been training and teaching Armstrong Style for most of his entire life.
@Bradley Harrison i like to think that as the chapters go on, Alex's style becomes a lot more pragmatic and reserved - that can already be seen with the shift from an advancing stance in his twentys to his receding stance of middle age. maybe something like sweeping the feet of enemies with a kick instead of the goat hoove maneuver. call it "burlap fu," or something
idk man the enemies they fought are legit dangerous ones like joy mutant chaz a warlord that can walk into the walls Silvester de Maistre and ofc cola can with hitler moustache
@@alperenakdas3479 Chaz was immobile, Silvester was a minor warlord who only knows basic fighting moves and relies on magic (which is defeated by a bottle) and the only reason Arnold is relatively hard is because he's armed and knows an actual martial art instead of making stuff up
@@blakethesnake6686 hmm yeah when you exsplain it its makes so much sense now thanks
That and Alex is just getting old so he isn't as strong and doesn't have much of his endurance and flexibility/agility as he did when he was younger.
Austin is aware of this game, he hasn't commented on it, but he is aware of it's existence.
i guess he wants t see the final product before commenting on it.
It'd be quite an effort to try and make the final product without some type of backing, but so far for just a third or so of the game this is pretty incredible.
MMS Octo Miner He recently made a comment. He likes it, but feels there are too many pervs and the art is just TOO nice to be a Lisa game. And as far as cannon goes he just said "Anything and everything is canon".
He has commented on the game, actually.
twitter.com/COMETandCROW/status/818876365965561856
EDIT: The game is supposedly canon. twitter.com/COMETandCROW/status/818878243327672321
OH YES
Nitro's gun taunts are beautiful.
MadmanEpic exactly my thought :D
Hey hey OH! OH! OHHHHH!
THIS ONE BULLET THING IS AMAZING! I CANT STRESS HOW FREAKED OUT I AM RIGHT NOW
but i feel like shooting should be an option. as long as theres no plot point involving it
I totally agree, but there is a plot point involving it.
NitroRad This reminds me of suits, you know, the pay the enemy attack. You can use it rarely but it's an insta win.
That's kinda sad to hear, but maybe you can find another one later on, who knows :P
i was hoping you would do this! does this mean we will see a potential arkantos video too? i shan't get ahead of myself
Using the bullet would mean that he would be useless after that. So like an insta-kill move that you can use whenever and with whomever but at the expense of that party member...
Way too late for this party but now that I’m completely invested in this series and fangame, I found a really neat detail regarding the flashback sequence!
So in the present day, Alex is exactly like Brad, right? Martial artist, uses WASD combos, and uses the SP system for special moves. But during the flashback, Alex is using TP for his moves. It could be a subtle detail in that Alex’ moves aren’t connecting because he’s a novice using a very complex fighting style, (his aunt gave him the Grandmaster tape), so he’s not following the style correctly. Only once he’s old and forced to fight does he actually connect his moves and re-hone his skills. Again that’s a detail that seems like something straight out of LISA, using the gameplay itself to intricately tell a story. Absolutely love it!
Cosplaybuddygiraffes HOLY SHIT
Nice, but it's universally agreed (IIRC even by the developer in the Discord channel) that Alex's moves couldn't connect due to the other guy actually being a competent martial artist, while Alex is cocky and uses a bullshit style.
This game contrasts to the original LISA in that it's about lame people fighting lame people, not strong competent survivors fighting actual treats. Even the joy mutants are softballs compared to the Painful.
I think the main reason Alex was missing in the flashback like that is also mostly because of the opponent's fighting style. He uses an Aikido stance, Aikido being a martial art focused around counters, joint locks, and essentially using your opponents weaknesses against themselves to throw them around. It's a great defence around Alex's striking focused moves, redirecting his attacks and using them to throw him to the ground, ending the match. It's not established what kind of tournament it is, I assume MMA, I'm not familiar with rules of things like this, but I imagine using something that isn't Kung Fu in a Kung Fu match is probably a no no and such. I don't think it's considered an illegal move here or else he would have been disqualified or something, so Alex really did lose for simply not being good enough, or cheating if you choose the groin kick.
If we're doing comment necro, I'll just point out as a member of the Pointless community that Alex's switch to an SP-based combo style has more to do with the fact that SP is more defensive while TP incentivizes dealing and taking damage and is thus more aggressive. Either due to being old, or due to being humbled by his big fight against Stan Curien, Alex switched his entire approach to his fighting style.
Poop
Painful: Good game, but do you guys have Pain Mode?
Pointless: Pain Mode?
Painful: Yeah, you know, a mode that makes the game harder?
Pointless: What?
Painful: Do I need to explain it to you even further? Isn’t the name already obvious on what it should mean?!
Pointless: Oh! You mean Normal Mode?
AGONY MODE
ANGUISH STYLE
I pictured this as a conversation between Brad and Alex. This needs to be animated.
I get it, because it'd be POINTLESS to add a pain mode. Its already PAINFUL
And now, in wake of the Ultimate Modpack, Pointless now has a proper Agony Mode, and it sure lives up to it's fucking name ._.
As a Lithuanian who left my country, I intimately understand the garbage island metaphor.
That aside, I'm still strangely proud to be from the same small country as the creator :^)
Bungo the metaphor is?
@@amazigh8087 Lithuania is not exactly the best place to live.
@@itbiethatawae6866 why that?
@@amazigh8087 I'm not Lithuanian, so I wouldn't know it completely in depth. If I were you I'd just wait for Bungo to reply.
@@itbiethatawae6866 the economy. Like all other countries.
Kudos on pronouncing Olathe correctly.
EDIT: The flags of the German Democratic Republic and Soviet Union can be seen in the background of the martial arts tournament which sets this flashback anywhere from 197X to 1990.
Also, I don't think Alex really has what you'd call "regular eyes," he's got a thousand-yard Stanley Kubrick stare (while Joel has a Jim Croce moustache).
The DDR was created in 1949 I think so more like 195X to 1990.
@@robinmattheussen2395 Martial Arts really came into the popular consciousness in the 70's with the release of Enter the Dragon in theaters and I would take it that Alex became enamored with them by watching Kung Fu movies so it's most likely that the flashback sequence where he gets DQ'd at the tournament takes place during the late 80's.
Oh so it’s pronounced “Olayth-a”
I'm not really sure about the thousand-yard stare with Alex
Whenever you face forward, he's not looking directly at the camera, and it comes off as awkward rather than per say Brad's sprite, which never even shows his eyes
It's just my two cents: Alex has been through some shit, goes through some shit, but in the end, he can redeem himself.
6:39 they're really pouring their heart into this.
I hate you. I love you.
sigh
starting out as trash and discovering hope is a much more traditional story
Traditional story with genious writting, i mean, the one bullet, an insta-win, no matter how powerful your enemy is, and the guy who has it can't use it but in a fight *he could totally use it*
"What's up with the gun, *Joel*?"
"Used to be my *grandad*'s."
OK THERE IS NO WAY THIS ISN'T INTENTIONAL HOLY FUCK.
Which reminds me, Joel still needs to play LISA the painful
It fits him perfectly
+leonidash15 Fucking yes. He will jizz his pants off during the pro-wrestling contest.
AHHAHAH
I also just saw this at the corner of my eye at like midnight when I watched this video
he did mention that he was going to in doom wad contest part 4 around 1:47:24
A LISA fangame that's *complete?*
Wow.
Heh, it's only one third of the way done.
A lisa fangame that at least has something to play is astonishing, all the other fangames hit the shitter.
well i just meant that its not canceled like every other lisa fangame
Querpt Yeah, I was looking forward to most of the fan games.
Third Track Off J Dilla's Donuts B-Side. yep
The only fanmade LISA game to actually not be cancelled.
Well.. there's Arkantos, which is meh.
pa ms Arkantos isn't as impressive and intresting as LISA the hintful, LISA the beautiful and so on.
Zak The Dragon I dunno, I think it has to do that Taitoki got mad at some criticism some others said about the person's game concepts in one of the Discords.
Zak The Dragon Again I don't know exactly why people would call him an ass. he's created a lot of good music.
i think he is a she
Sorry to break this to you nitro but the first boss theme is an unused song from Lisa the painful called hernandez ocean
But it is still really good none the less
OOOOOOOOOOOOOPS
Sparklesonic But it's sped up
My favorite LISA character is Rando! He has the most beautiful soul!
Rando is pure.
CobaltIsNotReal Rando is a flower growing in a dessert. It may be hard but the flower still manages to grow despite the horrible conditions.
Probably to bury them or do some spring cleaning around Olathe
@@thestranger4894
what about the truck of bodies?, the truck of bodies, hey cobalt, Joel's asking where the bodies come from?, do you know who killed them?, no?, how about you, sociophatic wastelander that just killed this guy at random in a place full of people like you?, where did those bodies come from?, who did this?
R-rando best b-b-boi
“(Demo)” yeah, and the entirety of Walmart’s produce isle is just an snack,
I'd say this is a good comparison.
I don't know, that said I genuinely want to make my own personal major game development project feel like three separate games, so I guess there's a lot to cover here.
Go -Bro and?
And the full game is gonna be the entire Walmart.
@@garrettoliva5154 Well it certainly SOUNDS like a substantial amount! I'm hyped, even if I can't currently afford the game, just to see how amazing it turns out!
@@eckitronix It be free me lad
lisa the pointless is incredible. the amount of work that was put into this fangame is unreal. the atmosphere in this game is like no other. the horror elements, the disturbing character designs, the blood and grime everywhere you look and the mystery of the infinity franchise. its all just so great. for those that think the game has been abandoned, from what it looks like ed is still working on it but chapter 2 has been delayed bc he's working on a huge remake of chapter 1 with a new intro sequence, mechanics and updated spritework. it looks incredible and i cant wait to play it
Yeah like wth? That remake looks so much better then triple AAA remakes
The game is very well made and gives back the feeling of LISA games perfectly.
The fact that you have to choose your battles carefully also makes sense, neither Alex nor Joel are joy addicts (?) so it would make sense that they are not killing machines like Brad or Buddy. Story and gameplay integration was one of the best things LISA had to offer and this fangame follows that very well. The music also fits extremely well. I also really liked Joel's combat mechanics: original and related to the character which is also very LISA like.
Obviously it requires some bug fixes and the difficulty should be tweaked so that players can explore all the content. There's a LOT of work put into this and it shows, so it would make sense to let people explore everything. I honestly think this could be made official since it doesn't interfere with the original canon (as far as I know).
Great stuff I really hope this get developed further, if this was just a demo imagine what a full game would look like.
Alex and joel arent joy addicts but georgy is after getting to the desert he gets a joy withdrawl also he leaves the hotel room with the guy that gives you joy so that may sugest that he bought joy from him
Here's whats up in the bullets, I know you corected yourself in a later video, but here:
Joel has the most powerful kind of gun in Olathe, and the bullets are VERY rare. with it, It's like a one-shot wonder, which is his class. He is almost garanteed a kill. Bullets for the gun are rare possibly due to the bullets being used excessively in the beginning, only to run out in a month or so and making the bullets EXTREMELY. RARE. This is why he only tried to use the gun once in the whole of chapter one.
This game is canon now.
Godspeed, Austin.
EVERYTHING IS CANNON!
Technically, the Joyful is the third installment. Lisa the First is the first installment, and Lisa the Painful is the second.
Yeah I was gonna say that, so this game would be the fourth chapter lol
@@XeroSythe_ and hopeful would be chapter 5
@Jazzier Man did you mean
Lisa Lisa's bizarre adventure xD
Fangame or no, the Infinity Franchise is canon in my eyes. It's way too good not to be.
The fact he mentioned Off and Space Funeral fan games makes me want to see him do videos on Home, Continue Stop Rise and Earthbirth.
Like, I REALLY want to see those videos...
Home the fan-game of off?
But of course.
Hey Nitrorad Dodge avoids allmost all attacks excepet for ranged and fire...
If you use taunt with Joel then dodge... Joel is targeted and you take NO DAMAGE.
Don't dodge ranged attack, you'll just lose a few turns like an idiot and get shit on.
Source: My stupid ass
He said that
"Fast forward and he is now a garbage man
Fast even forward and he is the garbage himself"
Well that escalated quickly
I was just watching your review of Lisa the painful yesterday then watched your review of Lisa the joyful this morning and now this shows up??
I'm in love
I keep hearing about LISA from everywhere now; Dunkey made a video on it, Cr1tikal's friend Andrew mentioned it on his podcast, and now there's a huge fan-game for it? Damn dude. Nice to see this game's getting the popularity it deserves.
Lmao cr1tikal's friend andrew
Nitro Rad: "You might have a gun, but bullets are going to be very hard to come by."
Buckets and Fly: Am I a joke to you?
Beltboy: bonjour
Hey Nitro, just wanted to let you know I found your channel via youtube recommending Lisa videos, I ended up spending the next 5 hours watching your Silent Hill reviews, 3D Platformers, Rayman, Siren, and various Yume Nikki videos. I love your style, its just really calm and you like to bring up sources and try not to get too emotional, and thank you for giving Silent Hill Downpour some love. Keep it up man, I have no doubt your channel is just going to get bigger and bigger
thank yoU!
@@NitroRad same i found you because of lisa love your vids
"it's my sworn duty to cover anything lisa related" still hasn't made a review of lisa: the first
He kinda made in his LISA video
yeah this doesnt really make sense as a criticism
@@BKSF1 excuse me?
ngl brad looks like a madness combat character
Jebus right?
Lul
IMO the gameplay would benefit greatly if Alex didnt have such high SP cost to his techniques, you waste too many turns recovering your SP which feels really unfair when your enemies rarely ever have to waste turns in such way and to add insult to injury the recovery stances have negative side effects so you are not just wasting your turn to make yourself useful again you are also effectively drawing yourself closer to defeat, its just too much
But you can decrease SP cost by equping chamions belt which is found in mud village and by using twisted stance it also recovers almost all SP for 150 hp and 50 if alex is already twisted thats a lot
@@j4mbsy To be fair that is end game and mid game, respectively.
I finally finished Lisa the Pointless after 5 years of being put off by the absurd difficulty. Accidentally fell off a plateau? Well I hope you enjoy doing the last five ball-busting fights all over again.
Gameplay aside, I felt like Pointless is a very different piece stylistically when compared to Painful. The spritework is far more detailed, and that detail is used to make everything grimy as all hell. It honestly feels much more dismal and hopeless compared to Painful's frequent gags and whimsical moments. And that's another part of what makes it hard to get through, there's no break from the misery. Even the "funny" parts come across as despressing.
In the end though, I'm glad to have finally finished the game. Although I nearly had a stroke from that one mutant who killed me with only 10 HP left.
And the remake of this fangame will get more better details anf graphics (even is limited by the RPG Maker).
I'm digging that Alex seems to be using Nanto Suicho Ken, as opposed to Armstrong style Hokuto Shinken
LISA The Pointless
One of the best and possibly the first LISA fan game
IF THIS BECOMES OFFICIAL
I WILL BE
THE MOST
HAPPY PERSON ON THE FUCKING PLANET
I LOVE LISA!
But Austin hates vg now...
GuyIsDead Source?
GuyIsDead he hates videogames now?
Why would he hate video games if he is developing a new one and is constantly retweeting stuff his fans send him?
Triforce Mario "its canon" dingaling on Twitter
Time for Wilbur sin my man
I wanna see Nitrorad review the Fear and Hunger games
Would we receive a Lisa the Pointless Scholar of the Wilburn Sin review?
Hope you'll come back to this on monster update
Also Lisa the Timeless would probably be one of the best fan-mods I've played since pointless
No one is coming for the monster update because it isn't coming out, it was in development before this video was even released
@@clotheslined8406and the remake of chapter one of Pointless?
2:27 I LOVE your delivery in this scene! Idk why, it's just stuck with me ever since I first saw this video.
4:21 Same goes for this scene! I mean you can just feel the energy!
this game has a lot of good siivagunner rips
One thing I love about lisa the pointless is that the game is really easy if you are good at minding your own business. there are only 6 required fights, and one continues if you lose, so you just have to ignore all the wierdos and keep moving forward.
wait really? 6? i got jumped repeatedly then again, the version i had just gave joel inf. ammo so i just spammed it on joy mutants
@@shinobidaniel_12 ussy
and yes, there's only six mandatory fights in vanilla pointless
there's pedro, dex, roland, vinny and lin, either kirf or anaconda, and chet blur
@@SurmenianSoldier good to know
oh shit
+taitoki Holy shit it's taitoki.
Hi.
hi
"Resurrecting"? What happened?
Rad aiming a gun at you is an energy I didn’t expect
WE BETTER GET A DIFINATIVE EDITION VIDEO
Or Lisa the fool in the future
Nitro rad said he stopped making Lisa fangame reviews sadly so i dont know if that would ever happen
Despite Austin saying it looks too nice, I really like the art in this game.
you look too nice you should be uglier too
@@clotheslined8406yeah
I'm so excited for the future of this game, I watched the monster update trailer and I'm pumped for when we find out the release date
little did nitro know... roland's theme IS a offical lisa song
Nitro Rad should be a secret boss on Lisa the Pointless
or a companion.
I would say a boss, as i can imagine a Joy Mutant Nitro Rad, with any of the badass boss themes in the trilogy.
And yes of course, Joy Mutant Nitro Rad would show his braces in a pretty messed up way!
Here's to hoping we get an update this year...
Bruh
@@doresofrimento Yeah.
LISA
sign me the FUCK up
If anyone is curious about getting the soundtrack, look up Taitoki on soundcloud. He's got songs from the Pointless spread out across multiple soundtracks.
Most of the songs are from the multiple soundtracks he made for fangames that failed due to developer issues, so I'm really glad to see his talents get put to good use in this game.
You should do a video on the chapter 2 when it comes out. If you watch the new intro you'll see Ed almost remade the whole thing, it looks like a thousand times better...
I didn't get through the full episode before I had to stop and hit that like button. That gun scene and your genuine reactions to the game were great.
Please do a video on the mod for this called Scholar of the Wilbur Sin, it adds so much to the infinity franchise and game as a a whole
4:21 is the best part of this entire video
Oh, shit, I thought this was a review describing the original game.
Now the chapter 1 of Lisa the pointless is getting a remake in development and for now only can see the intro and compare to the original version well the new version get so much new content,so much details and see more story in the characters (especially the girlfriend of Alex called Chie).
The first boss battle theme is Austin's work. It's an unused track called "Hernandez Ocean"
The first two LISA games we're really emotional, how's this one compared to those in terms of an emotional story?
It's too late to tell you, but i'm leaving this there for anyone else who stops by.
It tries for emotion, but so far feels a lot less meaningful then painful or joyful.
i know i'm three years too late but it's definitely less emotionally investing and the stakes are considerably lower. in painful you're trying to protect the last chance humanity has, sacrificing everything you have just to do that for example, but in pointless you're just some guy trying to find somewhere that's not as terrible as everywhere else and sometimes you risk your life. the only really tragic thing that happens to alex is the martial arts tourney. while definitely relatable, it's not as crushing to the player as say brad's death in painful or the fight with brad in joyful, and i feel this is a very good example as to how emotional pointless's story so far is
I know this is far too late, bit with the new trailer for the monster update, it seems that it's going to be more emotional
I doubt Austin would make this official
He hates video games.
It's true
or maybe he just accidentaly deleted the entire code for his new game and then went on a pointless rampage destroying everyone of his fans hopes for him
+Boxcar Boy
From what I can tell, in the space of about 3 twitter threads, he :
1. Felt the notion of white guilt wasn't entirely unjustified.
2. Wouldn't identify himself being for white pride because he felt the idea itself was based in racism.
3. Justified those views in that he felt individualism was a very idealist worldview and that race unfortunately have defined social implications that people should take care to acknowledge.
It was hardly what I'd call a meltdown, he actually delivered it and handled the arguments that came after all pretty lax. Even still let it serve as a reminder to us all posting your personal opinions on race or religion online is no way to make friends.
i was surprised that being a game developer or any kind of famous figure he didnt realize you cant just go and post your opinion everywhere
that is if you dont want to lose a portion of your fanbase every comment
Lisa is by far one if my favorite rpg maker game, and i'll be honest, the ending to lisa had me shaking and numb, I just wanted the ending to be anything else then what happened, but it kept going with the ending. It felt like a slap in the face, and that is not a bad thing. If anything it's a good thing, it made me remember the game even more then I expected. Thank god extra credits does the "Games you may not of tried" series, otherwise I might not of heard of Lisa the painful rpg.
2:29 - You'd know one's never fired any firearm when he puts his index finger to the trigger all the time.
I hope he finishes the game
That will be in like 7 or 10 years later because now is in development the remake of chapter 1 and will be expanded A LOT.
LISA IT'S YOUR BIRTHDAAAY!
HAPPY BIRTHDAY, LISAAAA!
You should check out lisa the pointless scholar of the wilbur sin it's a big expansion for lisa the pointless.
08:32 It's kinda strange ad surreal to see a post-apocalyptic game with a deuteragonist whose name is Joel Miller way long before The Last of Us part 2. He even use a revolver as a weapon of choice.
holy shit dude your acting during that bit about Joel's one unusable bullet is fuckin incredible. I can't stop thinking about Joel acting just like that.
Man, thanks for telling me about this fan game. After LISA: The Hintful fell through, I just abandoned the hope for a LISA fan game to come out, but this looks great. I just hope they're able to get a Mac version out eventually.
There was this abominably powerful combo that made the game super easy for me. Anaconda Virtue was a pushover in my experience, and if I remember correctly, it's Goat Kick + Hoof.
Joel looks like a jaded Inspector Gadget
Thanks so much for making this video! Without it, I'd never know that there was a game to fill the empty hole in my life that was left after I played both LISA games! Keep making vids!
"Flash forward and he is now a garbage man. Flash even further forward and he is now the garbage itself."
Nice. Just.... nice.
LISA > Undertale
Pridetoons Reviews They're not really comparable and I don't know why people try
GrandmaStew It's a joke, they're both good games.
Pridetoons Reviews Weird joke
They're both emotional Earthbound inspired RPGs with a 4:3 aspect ratio and comedic writing
That's why
I disagree but whatever, perhaps it's a worthless discussion because all of the people I've spoken to largely just whine about how popular Undertale is and never give any reason why they prefer LISA over it. Oh and memes, despite there being 2 memes in the game, and a bunch spawned from the game which makes sense since the internet loves it and likes to make memes. I'd be willing to have a proper discussion, but I've played both and you're not changing my mind.
(9:53) I love that voice
I hope to god this becomes official.
Nitro always knows how to make a good entertaining video to make someone's day a little better thanks Nitro.
4:24 Gamer flexing his epic kill to his victims
The protag looks identical to Last Jedi Luke Skywalker
currently downloading LISA the POINTLESS nuff said.
I think that the bullet that Joel wanted to find was maybe a .38 special or even 50 BMG! I dunno
when you thought your pain of lisa was over but you realize it has just begun
Couldn't joel just pistol whip his enemies?
if joel is pissed he might punch the enemy, that deals alot of fucking damage
top ten saddest anime deaths
*joel uses his bullet*
LISA is like breaking bad, depressing as fuck but we still love it.
Man I really love the Lisa series
Holy FUCK! I didn't even know the kick to the groin was on option. I just kept on throwing myself at him with different combos.
I had no idea this game was a thing -- thanks so much for sharing, you're doing god's work.
I hope he finds out the expansion mod of this this game called Scholar of Wilbur Sin it adds more party members, secrets, and more save options to ease the difficulty
Hnestly this game wasn't going for a "pain mode" vibe pain mode, pain mode was really the only reason I found Lisa challenging the normal non pain mode is easy as shit (I love LISA to death by the way) and pan mode is, kinda mild this fucking game it's POINTLESS (eh eh?) to try, it's dark souls of turn based RPGs
Ok that might be an exaggeration if pain mode was mild, this is hard.
0:46
no HOME?
oh...
ok...
5:06
"DUDE!"
"Visions of erotica deliver me!"
alex and joel duo is terrifying, i think they are even stronger than buddy and rando together
Or Heart & Soul from Soma Spirit right?
I don't remember being able to save everywhere in Lisa the painful. I thought that was the point. The sacrifices were far from the saves so it was a chore to reset
As amazed as I am to know there's a good fangame, I'm more amazed by your camera quality. It looks like the highest quality camera I've seen anyone ever use lol
this game has been updated(modded?) called "scholar of the wilbur sin"
This is the first time I've seen a LISA fan game reach this far in development. A lot of the other fangames were cancelled, left unfinished, or not even started. To see a real LISA fan game be able to bloom like this is just... amazing.
4:25 best moment in any nitrorad video
Hey man, just discovered your channel today. I need to say i am impressed with the amount of effort and care you put in all the videos ive seen so far. It is rare for a small channel to put this much work into their videos and it is very refreshing and inspiring to see for other aspiring creators. You just earned a sub, i wish you the best of luck!
Just played the Joyful and Painless. Can't wait to try this one out, thanks for the video!