You have been a God send for all things demon hunter Jedith! Really appreciate the content. I've learned so much about the class. The skill curve definitely feels a little steeper than past expansions, especially with mover, but it's honestly required me to step it up and hone my skills. I don't think that's a bad thing. Looking forward to experimenting with this build
Finally, someone understands the plight of many of us demonhunters that are tired of having to move everywhere all of the time. Now if we can shorten our 72 step opener, let's go!
They should at least remove the gcd of all dh movement skills. Yes a total rework would be nice, but i think there is nothing in the near future. So i switched to warrior till they make DH gameplay fun again...
Damn! Love the set up of IRL room, the lighting on you and in the background, I guess you have quality camera and lens and omg it shows, it looks amazing, so nice to look at, you can see you put real amount of effort into making sure you video looks good. Cudos
I only play no mover. But i use the single target shattered destiny with fel scarred and honestly??? IT SO FUN! I also enjoy no mover adrachi reaver build too.
yeah but at least for enhanc being one of the hardest specs in terms of rotation, util and prio and more, you get rewarded for how much you input. Should always be like this. Then survival retri or frost with 3 buttons out dpses that should be your main concern
I would say that it matters if people the game for enjoyment/entertainment. If they approach the game like the only thing that matters is parses... it's not a 'game' anymore; it's a competition. I'm just speaking for myself here but when I want to have fun, I just want to relax and enjoy. If I have to compete for something to be fun, then I'm not enjoying the game; I'm competing. I do enough competing in real life that I want gaming to be a relief, not a second job lol.
What you did with Opener window with the colors, is super helpful to understand, well done. Could you do a video for those who want to try Aldrachi Reaver please
Great video, I already switched from DH this season but it’s always been my favorite class aesthetically and fantasy wise. I keep coming to your videos to stay informed for when / if blizzard addresses our balance. ✌️
I had to let my main DH go. Unless I wait a long time with my own key or go with my meta friends. I get left out. Been doing a no mover spec similar to this. I greatly prefer it. But as others stated I think it needs a “rework” of sorts. I want it to be better. Maybe in the future but I had to retire it after getting ksm. Just not worth the wait for keys that just want meta.
Blizz needs to make 2 specs Havoc for no mover and make a new spec completely built with move talents in mind. The spec id trying to do to much. It needs split up.
I love DH and its chaotic (pun intended) nature, but sometimes, but I would love a no mover ST viable option for Mythic Court. Especially when Mr. I'm-a-trial-in-your-guild-and-have-only-played-enhancement-for-5-days-and-am-603ilvl-and-make-650kdps-more-than-you-at-634 joins the raid group.
So I tried this build vs my single target (full eyebeam-chaosstrike build with glaive tempest) and I know, sims might be different, but for me I stay on the single target buid with GT for aoe. In practice it does the same dmg, it doesn't is based on luck with felaura proccs and its even easier to play. With this build in the video I forget to press throw glaive the whole time and sometimes we just dont have luck with fel aura proccs. This is a way easier to f-up. And in the end I do just fine, M+ isn't my main contend so this is okay for me. Still I aggre that the havoc tree needs a rework, even when im a little afraid that its gonna be worse.
Those types of gameplay require the most dps you can do as a player, otherwise you're letting the rest of your team down and making things harder for everyone. The difference in raid is smaller but in m+ it can sometimes be a difference of double digits
Precise Sigils is one of the easiest no brainer talents if your a clicker like me, i cant play without it. what would you remove to fill it in this build?????
Can't wait to try this in some of these dungeons, gonna be hard to break the "press fel rush as you immo aura" habit. (also, I'm hoping fel barrage will be viable again)
I played rogue this season because I am tired of demon hunter ... always having to jump in order to keep buffs and u need to care about mobs to not pull ... also care about timer otherwise u are losing damage ... all of this and not being top dps ... thats why i jumped the train, sorry boys :)
tbh why even play DH if you don't want to use movement abilities? That's like the entire class. If movement isn't for you, try Ret Paladin. They push 1 button from Kansas and are top dam lol
What's wrong with the mover build? I hardly die from it and i just pace myself so that the feel rush proc and VR aren't an issue? As for damage I'm usually in the top four in heroic raids. If we are talking mythic raid a majority of the playerbase doesn't do it so that's isn't really a big deal. DH has massive bugs I'll give you that. But i don't see how people are struggling with the movement stuff so much.
If the movement dps is natural and understandable people won't be arguing. Making an unnecessary skill usage requirements is very cringe such as vr and felblade.
@oscarperry641 but it should be natural feeling already. I use both FR and VG all the time outside of raid. That's like saying shamans using totems in raid feels unnatural. If I'm going to be honest I think it has less to do with people finding it uncomfortable and more to do with laziness. I started playing DH this expansion and when I did my research on it I saw two builds. Mover and non mover. I saw lots of complaining about the mover build being too hard but also doing more DPS than the noj mover build. Instead of saying away from it I decided to tackle and learn the hardest part of DH first. After I got the hang of it I went and did the NM build and found it to be kinda boring and stale on a class that's all about movement. Once I learned the rhythm of the boss fights and the best way to use both FR and VR I hardly think about it now. I think people just want things to be easy, like how ret paladin is.
Are you still able to show your face in the DH discord after promoting this build? the elitist there don't like anything the incompetent devs don't have a hardon for lol
yeah, i dont know why some guys want to play no mover DH, it's the reason why havoc is so unique, i dont understand why they didnt play something like Paladin or War
@@LeumasLSNTV the mover build is fun but for a lot of people they are worried about pulling extra stuff and some people just don't want the extra buttons. Although for me Havoc doesn't have button bloat like some classes have.
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I just want that Legion DH back. Building and spending that fury was so fun.
You have been a God send for all things demon hunter Jedith! Really appreciate the content. I've learned so much about the class. The skill curve definitely feels a little steeper than past expansions, especially with mover, but it's honestly required me to step it up and hone my skills. I don't think that's a bad thing. Looking forward to experimenting with this build
Thanks for the kind words! Glad you're enjoying the content.
Finally, someone understands the plight of many of us demonhunters that are tired of having to move everywhere all of the time. Now if we can shorten our 72 step opener, let's go!
i have never in my life touched the mover build cuz i have never been good enough for it on top of having focus on mechanics in raid and m+ ^^
Demon hunters need a rework.. that opener is just way too long
@@Catdaddy836 the recipe for Beef Wellington has less steps than the havoc opener.
@@adanz17 lmao
Yeah and apparently I suck bc I can’t for the life of me get the opener down
They should at least remove the gcd of all dh movement skills. Yes a total rework would be nice, but i think there is nothing in the near future. So i switched to warrior till they make DH gameplay fun again...
Damn! Love the set up of IRL room, the lighting on you and in the background, I guess you have quality camera and lens and omg it shows, it looks amazing, so nice to look at, you can see you put real amount of effort into making sure you video looks good. Cudos
Thanks! Not a compliment I get often so I appreciate it!
i used to hate mover but once u understand it and have some time to practice its a nice thing
Playing no mover always gives a different perspective to Havoc. We all have thought at some point that mover and no mover could be the 2 DH dps specs
Might try this myself bro! Great guide
Have fun!
Thanks Bro!
No problem!
excellent build for ppl who is just venturing into DH
I only play no mover. But i use the single target shattered destiny with fel scarred and honestly??? IT SO FUN! I also enjoy no mover adrachi reaver build too.
No mover would be great in some M+ fight like Ara-Kara endboss
yeah but at least for enhanc being one of the hardest specs in terms of rotation, util and prio and more, you get rewarded for how much you input. Should always be like this. Then survival retri or frost with 3 buttons out dpses that should be your main concern
At this point it doesn't matter whether or not the build is optimized for damage, you'll be bottom of the barrel regardless.
I would say that it matters if people the game for enjoyment/entertainment. If they approach the game like the only thing that matters is parses... it's not a 'game' anymore; it's a competition. I'm just speaking for myself here but when I want to have fun, I just want to relax and enjoy. If I have to compete for something to be fun, then I'm not enjoying the game; I'm competing. I do enough competing in real life that I want gaming to be a relief, not a second job lol.
What you did with Opener window with the colors, is super helpful to understand, well done.
Could you do a video for those who want to try Aldrachi Reaver please
Love all the videos! Not many dh creators out there !
I appreciate that!
Really helped me, didn't to move on some encounters
Awesome video Jedith. Keep em coming!
Glad you liked it!
You shouldve used ret in your into. Those guys drool on their keyboard and pump
This is my main build since expansion starts. Nice video.
Great video, I already switched from DH this season but it’s always been my favorite class aesthetically and fantasy wise.
I keep coming to your videos to stay informed for when / if blizzard addresses our balance. ✌️
Will be trying this later!
its nice to have pretty viable no mover for more chill gameplay (world activities etc.)
All the no movers can finally be relieved. Hope people fell better in m+ now
i was so excited to get back into tww after i took a break after amirdrassil... only to find DH nerfed into oblivion
Little jimmy :D having him always in pug group :D
I had to let my main DH go. Unless I wait a long time with my own key or go with my meta friends. I get left out. Been doing a no mover spec similar to this. I greatly prefer it. But as others stated I think it needs a “rework” of sorts. I want it to be better. Maybe in the future but I had to retire it after getting ksm. Just not worth the wait for keys that just want meta.
hope the DH from BFA back with easy opener and lot of fun
Blizz needs to make 2 specs Havoc for no mover and make a new spec completely built with move talents in mind. The spec id trying to do to much. It needs split up.
I've been playing no mover builds, for a while. Thx for the video
I'm looking forward to this one brother. I like mover alot. But I wouldn't be opposed to no mover either
I love DH and its chaotic (pun intended) nature, but sometimes, but I would love a no mover ST viable option for Mythic Court. Especially when Mr. I'm-a-trial-in-your-guild-and-have-only-played-enhancement-for-5-days-and-am-603ilvl-and-make-650kdps-more-than-you-at-634 joins the raid group.
So I tried this build vs my single target (full eyebeam-chaosstrike build with glaive tempest) and I know, sims might be different, but for me I stay on the single target buid with GT for aoe. In practice it does the same dmg, it doesn't is based on luck with felaura proccs and its even easier to play.
With this build in the video I forget to press throw glaive the whole time and sometimes we just dont have luck with fel aura proccs. This is a way easier to f-up.
And in the end I do just fine, M+ isn't my main contend so this is okay for me.
Still I aggre that the havoc tree needs a rework, even when im a little afraid that its gonna be worse.
No possible way it could get worse from here lol
@The0nlyy u remember the last tree? :D The first one when dragonflight prepatch was released I remember was even worse.
Do you have a No Mover for Raid as well?
Why not use it on Myrhic prog for raid or 10+ keys out of curiosity? Is the damage difference that big?
Those types of gameplay require the most dps you can do as a player, otherwise you're letting the rest of your team down and making things harder for everyone.
The difference in raid is smaller but in m+ it can sometimes be a difference of double digits
some guildies were asking about a no mover build, i'll have to let them know!
Precise Sigils is one of the easiest no brainer talents if your a clicker like me, i cant play without it.
what would you remove to fill it in this build?????
we need a no movers single target PLEASEEE
Thank you
Please do an AR refresh if it's relevant again, appreciate it
Might be good for things like first boss in CoT
interestint video ty :)
Glad you enjoyed it
is there a no mover raid ?
This is basically the build I've been running all through dragonflight till now.
This also mean we didn't get any changes since DF😢. Plz save havoc
I beg you, tell me the name of WA giving mouse cursor the efect you have :)
Might try
Nice!
I hope they will help Havoc at least a bit :(
Little Jimmy been getting attacked in WoW VODs since 2006. Someone check on Little Jimmy.
Awesome but i love our movement ability even get me pull more mobs in M+ but it fun and I love it. thanks Jedith
i miss my dh😢
nice video
Can't wait to try this in some of these dungeons, gonna be hard to break the "press fel rush as you immo aura" habit.
(also, I'm hoping fel barrage will be viable again)
Fel Barrage is actually quite popular this season, u can run it in regular m+ mover build with FB instead of GT.
@Mayderish I never took GT to begin with, no good spot to put it on my bars, so I took a point in blind fury
Yhey less dmg to my class that already doesn't do dmg
Video starts at 2:40
at last not moving at all.
Dashing and moving like a monkey is my favorite part of havoc dh with some hardstyle music
I played rogue this season because I am tired of demon hunter ... always having to jump in order to keep buffs and u need to care about mobs to not pull ... also care about timer otherwise u are losing damage ... all of this and not being top dps ... thats why i jumped the train, sorry boys :)
First?!?!?😂❤😢🎉
tbh why even play DH if you don't want to use movement abilities? That's like the entire class. If movement isn't for you, try Ret Paladin. They push 1 button from Kansas and are top dam lol
What's wrong with the mover build? I hardly die from it and i just pace myself so that the feel rush proc and VR aren't an issue?
As for damage I'm usually in the top four in heroic raids. If we are talking mythic raid a majority of the playerbase doesn't do it so that's isn't really a big deal.
DH has massive bugs I'll give you that. But i don't see how people are struggling with the movement stuff so much.
If the movement dps is natural and understandable people won't be arguing. Making an unnecessary skill usage requirements is very cringe such as vr and felblade.
@oscarperry641 but it should be natural feeling already. I use both FR and VG all the time outside of raid. That's like saying shamans using totems in raid feels unnatural.
If I'm going to be honest I think it has less to do with people finding it uncomfortable and more to do with laziness. I started playing DH this expansion and when I did my research on it I saw two builds.
Mover and non mover. I saw lots of complaining about the mover build being too hard but also doing more DPS than the noj mover build. Instead of saying away from it I decided to tackle and learn the hardest part of DH first. After I got the hang of it I went and did the NM build and found it to be kinda boring and stale on a class that's all about movement.
Once I learned the rhythm of the boss fights and the best way to use both FR and VR I hardly think about it now.
I think people just want things to be easy, like how ret paladin is.
@@endofexistence2149you not understanding vr and fb means you are not even a top tier player hahaha😂
Are you still able to show your face in the DH discord after promoting this build? the elitist there don't like anything the incompetent devs don't have a hardon for lol
@@BladedDragonia the incompetent devs have only had a hate boner for dh since shadowlands prepatch
Yep my face is always on display over on the right side of the screen. Under the Mod section
Mover is the way.
yeah, i dont know why some guys want to play no mover DH, it's the reason why havoc is so unique, i dont understand why they didnt play something like Paladin or War
@@LeumasLSNTV the mover build is fun but for a lot of people they are worried about pulling extra stuff and some people just don't want the extra buttons. Although for me Havoc doesn't have button bloat like some classes have.
@@kahnoleary "Pulling some extra stuff" yeah so they just dont know the class
it's not hard to dash without pulling anything, it's just a excuse
And if they dont want the extra boutton, why they dont go play war or pally ? it's not way harder than a no mover playstyle
Demonic was always more fun.
Until you got carpal tunnel from trying to hit every button during bloodlust