Someone's Dying on Turn Two, but Who? | Against the Odds
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- Опубликовано: 1 июн 2024
- What are the odds of killing the opponent on turn two with the combo of Laelia, the Blade Reforged and Necropotence in Timeless? Let's find out!
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who would have ever thought necro winter would come back?
It's back!
For now. It's basically turn 1 Tibalt's Trickery so I really hope it doesn't last long. So many non-games.@@MTGGoldfish
It's either necro or dark ritual getting restricted, my money is on dark ritual.
@@Atmapalazzothey should restrict necro, it’s still be super busted without dark ritual.
@@Atmapalazzorestricting ritual would hit Belcher and lotus breach too actually so doesn’t seem unlikely. Depends on the metagame challenge results next month I bet
That guy ritualing thran spider out and doing absolutely nothing else be like:
My goals are beyond your understanding
Whatever they were they still couldn't beat necro 🤣
Hey, waitaminute, this is just channel - fireball with extra steps!
Wait shit u right
It's channel fireball in a Molotov cocktail!
🤯🤯🤯
dog is scared of horse because horse is like a big messed up dog
That actually might be it. Bear is massive so he isn't scared of much, but he might know that a horse could take him down.
imagine think you're a pretty big dog and then seeing a horse for the first time, it would be like meeting bigfoot face to face
Big messed up dog with giant scary toenails
It depends on the dog.
My jack russel absolutely _adores_ the big messed up dogs, much to their chagrin. Seems to be somewhat genetic as well. He has never in his life seen a horse up to the proud age of 12, and _immediately_ fell in love with them. Same with the first time we saw a fox. He had _zero_ idea of what to do, but for an hour he was like 'AAAAAAHHHH have you seen the fox? There was a fox there. Lets go there again, maybe the fox is there again. Fox!'.
But in general, yeah. It's a big powerful animal with very sharp ends that tends to be incredibly fidgety and nervous. If your even remotely in getting-stomped-on-territory, you should treat them with the respect they deserve.
A lot of people need to learn that the hard way, maybe dogs are just smart.
@@seleenshadowpaw3012I'm pretty sure your dog isn't somehow genetically predisposed to like horses, but is just a mellow older dog who thinks every animal is friend
"We could just Necro to 12"
cruises past 12
classic Necro
Exiling cards with Necro to boost the power of your hasty Legend has big 'Goku charging the spirit bomb' energy.
It should take 20 turns then.
Winning on turn 2 is more like instant transmission.
Is Goku an X-men?
@@CrowsofAcheron compromise then Instant Transmission Kamehameha.
On the next episode... 5 episodes later: "...ha... me..." 😃
Shout out to Bear, protecting us from the evil horses
I totally understand Bear's fesr of horses. If I saw a giant, mutant human with fucked up hands I'd also be scared.
This deck embodies the adage that the only life point that matters is the last one.
Yes however all the arena players I’ve faced have always necroed themselves into bolt range and I’m playing rakdos burn. So I’ll also add know what range leaves you at 1
@@ashdog9235 so many necro games lost to "man i hope they dont have exactly two bolts and a bow master"
Mandatory "seth could have won" 36:32
Fetch shock, down to 8 life, necro, exile top 7 cards going to 1 life, "leela" goes to 10/10, attacks, exile top card, 11/11, plus the army and bowmaster is lethal
Yup, he forgot about layla attack trigger
The spirit of bears ancestors are calling to him to hunt a horse lol
Lol, this is basically channel -> Fireball with extra steps. I love it.
17:28 after hearing "Leela" audibly for decades and it still gets a Seth pronunciation special
I love Seth's enthusiasm so much, but hearing stuff like "everyone should be playing timeless" shows how easy it is for content creators to forget the wildcard situation most players face.
Bear is a good boy, what a heckin protect he does
Please remember if you find someone using Callous Sellswords “fling” it is worded as a Bite spell where it needs a target creature, so if you use a removal spell wait until it is on the stack and then remove the creature, that will fizzle the Callous Sellswords “fling”
Finally a payoff for Necro.
aww Bear's such a good boy :D
"It's ok we are wining" might be my best Seth's quote ever somehow
Literally burst out laughing when opponent Thoughtseized the Necro and Seth immediately topdecked the Ritual...
The absolute natural way Mr. Olive uses the concept of "teaching arena zoomers" brings ALWAYS a smile to my face.
I feel the need to point out that there was an out at 34:20. It's not a huge out, but: let your opponent play out their turn, hopefully using up their mana on Ragavan or Demonic Tutor instead of holding up Lightning Bolt. If they do hold up Bolt, use Thoughtseize to either take it or force it. Either way, once the Bolt threat is gone, Necro down to one, play Blackcleave Cliffs, and fling the Death's Shadow. This puts the opponent to 3 life, with you having 1 spare R/B mana available. If one of the cards you Necro is a Lightning Bolt, then you win.
Like I said, it's only a small out, but it IS an out, and it would've been a great turnaround.
I don't even think is that small of an out. Worst case scenario Seth is drawing "only" 6 cards, but 4 bolts are in the deck.
If the opponent punts Seth can even tutor for a bolt guaranteeing the win.
@@DiogoVKersting While the odds of getting the Bolt aren't that bad (around 47% to 70% depending on how much he gets to Necro for), the Tutor's a no go. Seth doesn't have a Dark Ritual, so he doesn't have the mana to Tutor, Fling, Bolt.
I only enjoy timeless through these videos because I just don't have enough of the cards I want and I a hesitate to craft them just for a single format. So these vids have def become my favorite on this channel
I’ve been rocking a blue heavy (only non-blue non-fetch is a single forest) temur tempo kind of shell in ranked Timeless. Necro is one of my favorite matchups. They spend their life, I protect a Ragavan and counter their Beseech’s nd Sheoldred’s etc., and punish their ridiculous life loss. It feels good.
Love the content Mr. Ollive
I thought about this deck right when timeless came out and was like "Why has no one built this?" Glad to see one of my favorite channels popping off with it!
Starting the video now, Seth just explained how Necro/Laela is supposed to work, I’m expecting a mono red lightning bolt loss.
This deck is the epitome of "the only life point that matters is the last one"
for timeless, I would like some of the cards that are already on arena be make available for crafting, tron lands come to mind. We all need big Emrakul, or at less something with annihilator. would also like to get Progenitus, more for brawl then timeless but still. And I guess something to make re-animator a deck would be fun too.
This is such a sweet idea!!! I saw someone theorycraft this with the alchemy version of shadowheart but this seems better
I see a lot of Necro in timeless.. I gotta say, I don't mind. I think the card balances itself out. Either you win quick or lose quick. Makes for spicy brews and more games per video.
I've been playing Rakdos Necro with Laelia in Timeless for a while, but my version is much more midrangy and less all-in. I don't even play Dark Ritual in mine because Necro is the only thing it's all that good at casting (I play Deathrite and Ragavan instead, so I can't t2 kill, but have t3 killed before). Also, Alchemy Shadowheart is one of the best cards in the deck. Red specialize combo kills with Necro similarly to Laelia, but even just the bear that pings both ways and threatens the flip is good when I'm the beatdown, black specialize helps stabilize against burn and the like as a 4/4 lifelinker that effectively drains for 1 on end step, 4/4 Deathtouch is super relevant for enabling Temur Battle Rage kills to close out games against Titan Field type decks, and even the green specialize (off Deathrite and green splash fetchables for Deathrite) and blue specialize (off sideboard Ashiok) end up being relevant in weird edge cases.
If Seth worked for Inquest magazine: "Can We 20 Our Opponent with the WORST RARE in Ice Age?"
Gotta say, that title is art xD
That Natural Order/Ghalta deck was sweet-looking
41:14 … that line from Indiana Jones & the Last Crusade: “He chose… poorly”
Most fun playstyle in magic, on the egde! Nice
And make another 12 hours vid of this plz!
At 34:19 I think they were dead depending on if they tap out for monkey or tutor instead of leaving up bolt right? If they tap out you can get deaths shadow to 12 power with necro play your fast land demonic tutor for bolt and deal the last three
Turn 1: Greedy Freebooter/Shambling Ghast
Turn 2: Phrexian Tower
Turn 2: 4 mana
Just as good as turn 2 dark ritual
So it’s not a good idea but it’s funny. I’d love to see a brew where you make the match end in a draw.
i think you missed lethal at 13:32. you had bolt and molten collapse, you could have just killed both stitcher suppliers and swung for game assuming they didnt mill narcomeba.
Next for Timeless? Easy! Two Words:
*Sliver*
*Queen*
Please hold CTRL while using Necro.
Not only will YOU not have to sit through each card being exiled individually,
if YOUR OPPONENT has a Brainstorm or whatever, they won't have to click "Resolve" 20 times.
Flusterstifle doesn't exist so it's pretty safe (99,9%) as well.
This might be too late of a comment for you to see, but seth if you put the game in full control when activating necro you can quickly add a bunch of activations onto the stack and then just let it resolve together. saves a lot of time.
6:50 "There's probably a possible turn 1 kill" Yeah, like the same hand but with 1 extra Dark ritual instead of a land lol.
It's good bud, it's good - we're winning.
Here for magic and the Bear revelations.
When seth has gotten so good at deck building even his "against the odds" decks are good
Your question about cards we would like to see in timeless I was just thinking about this morning! Rishadan port would be awesome to see, and maybe some more D&T pieces. Gaddock Teeg, Arbiter. Maybe getting the OG Eldrazi Titans in there as well.
I love legacy madness, so rootwallas and LED would be sweet. Is lions eye too busted for timeless?
God I love this deck, how cool.
I would love to see bride from below (I used to play a budget legacy dredge deck). It’s such a weird hard to play with/around
Wait, couldnt you win that game vs natural order? Fling death's shadow for 12 and ligthning bolt to finish it? Granted you didnt have the bolt in hand but I would have at least tried it?
Exactly at 12 life he could have drawn 11 cards to hit a bolt and that game is his
32:28 I've actually been thinking about this for a while before. I think the card I'd love most to see added would be Ensnaring Bridge, though I'm pretty sure they'd never do it. After that, it'd probably be Academy Manufactor, because I love Lonis xD
I do have to say though, if they ever add free counters I'm probably gonna stop playing this format alltogether...
I'd like all the slivers added to Historic.
At 34:25, it would be worth it to necro down to 4 (or less if they tap down) in case you draw exactly death shadow + callous sellsword for the double fling right?
Necro draws at the beginning of Seth's next endstep. I had the same thought and was thinking he might be able to desperation draw but he wouldn't be able to cast anything he drew before the opponent attacked with Ghalta and Atraxa.
You get the necro cards at the end of your turn, so there wouldn't be an opportunity to use them before he died.
Unless it was a lightning bolt + 12 power ds, = 15 exactly no? @@NMS127
but he could have drawn cards down to 1 life, fling shadow and hope you get a bolt from the necro cards to finish opponent in end step
End of *your* turn... dang yah he was just out of luck you're right@@bobzour
That domain player managed to make every mistake possible, bruh
Dark dark dark ritual bolas citadel,
Or
ornithopter, phyrexian tower, ritual ritual bolas citadel.
Citadel into necropotence and aetherflux reservoir.
"Bolt the Bird" on Arena = Gilded Goose (honk honk!) in play?
Seth, I REALLY want Smokestack and Wasteland on Arena terribly. I want to play actual Stax
I want strip mine in timeless.
And then make another copy with a diferent name, so I can play 8 strip mines.
And 4 wastelands.
36:24 Literally screaming at the screen that Laelia buffs herself by attacking, so Seth had exactly lethal here.
Me i built a 12 mulch deck from legacy but with the arena cardpool
I really wish like
Exploration, wasteland, manabond, etc etc etc
I want Counterbalance in Timeless, and old school Elfball with Emrakul, Aeons Torn.
I love me some fling and big ol creatures
How about a decklist for arena??
Leonin arbiter would be great for this format in my opinion
With two DR's and lands of both colors. Can't you wait and play both necro and "Leela" on turn two? Giving you the additional card draw.
Turn 1: Dark Ritual
Seth: Panik
Op: Thran Spider
Seth: Calm
Kazuul's Fiery is an instant fling that can be a land as well.
believe me, seth knows all about all the flings, he loves flings. not only that, this is the king of MDFCs right here!
can we get Doomsday yet? Doomsday + Laelia = super fun
IDK how to submit decks, but i have the perfect 0 rare deck for you, i went 8-10 with this deck on arena
Bone shards
fruits of tezerus
Blazing Rootwalla
Faithless looting
Bitter Triumph
Alms of the vein
Thrill of Possibility
Firey Temper
Kitchen Imp
Add what ever lands in equal proportion black and red (i like mount doom for lategame ping damage but that goes agenest no rare clause)
Sideboard (typically if you can't agrro them out,)
feed the swarm
Raze the effigy
abrade
Bitter reunion
(your favorite removal spells to deal with what ever your opponent is playing)
I love bear understanding modern matchups lol
Grab a leg!
lol
You’re from rurual upstate -NY? Bro I live in Collins ny. About 30 mins away from amish country lol. I love the Amish trail haha. I play basketball a lot in pine valley -NY
I think you missed a lot of damage here. Play the fetch and fetch a blood crypt for descend then molten collapse both stitchers and swing in for potentially lethal, it leaves you dead to a creeping chill off the top but I mean you were kinda already dead to a creeping chill off the top.
I can't remember, is Battle of Wits on Arena? I have a dream of using alchemy cards to play a 60 card deck that does some kind of infinite Conjure loop to conjure another couple hundred cards into the game and shuffle them back into the library and win with Battle of Wits.
I came up with a couple ways to do it with Gixian Recycler (assuming infinite mana and any permanents I want on the battlefield lol) but nothing remotely practical. I freaking love Gixian Recycler, that card demonstrates how cool Alchemy _could_ have been. Alas... 😢
One small nitpick but wouldn't a instant speed fling be better? You can draw it off the Necro and cast it end step. Im not sure there is one on Arena however
Edit: yeah he talks about it around 21:40, seems to be no good instant speed flings
I was torn, instant speed would be better, but they cost 2+ mana, which we don't usually have on our end step, so I'm not sure what's better. If we had a black Fling (to work with Dark Ritual) or a cheaper instant Fling on Arena it would be great.
hahahah try to watch Yellowstone with Bear... my Golden Retriever loses his mind with that show xD
This is just Hatred
lol, my friend's pug hates horses too. goes berserk
When he said Bear hates horses I thought he meant horse-tribal with Shadowfax or something lol
Seth loves necro in the format but then says he basically wants timeless to be legacy where necro is banned. So should timeless build towards no ban list legacy and go from there?
el veneno al final diciendo que solo es un poco mas poderoso dark ritual con necro que con la araña, jsjsjsjsjs
If it wasn't so many wildcards to craft, I would play this all weekend just to get into Mythic
Why can we Prime Time and Necro, but when you suggest Stinkweed, Golgari Thug, and Grave-Troll suddenly it's a step too far?
Forget the fog meta, against the odds is the fling meta
I think we need to start a gofundme to get Seth some help to deal with his Arboreal Grazer trauma.
“Layyyyla got me on my knees Layla begging darling please Layla”
Never stop being you Seth.
That’s Eric Clapton for all you zoomers.
Time to grab a leg and watch Necro being a pretty decent card.
instant classic
About Necropotence, during Extended era, there was a saying:
How do you balance a format?
Unban Necropotence, then ban everything until Necrodeck is the top deck, then ban Necropotence 😝
LETS GOOOOO!
We need The Spanish Inquisition in Timeless.
Karn vs necro on game 1 is like so timeless lol
Is the Thran spider player just memeing? There was this story about a player in a Vintage/Legacy(?) tournament that played a land, cracked a Black Lotus, and played... a Giant Spider 😆
Is Bear a 2/2?
As said by the wise, "the only life point that matters is the last one"
How much damage do you think Bear would do to an opponent if you Flingged him?
Timeless is the epitome of why arena will fail. Most people just can't afford it.
Ahem. I believe it's called "turn tomb."
Necropotence is such a miserable card. I feel like I have to include it in every list I build.