Talent Without Marketing Won't Get You Far - Gary W. Goldstein
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Gary W. Goldstein has produced some of Hollywood's biggest box-office hits (Pretty Woman, Under Siege, The Mothman Prophecies and more), generating well over One Billion Dollars in worldwide revenue, receiving multiple Academy Award nominations, People's Choice Awards, a Golden Globe and other honors. Before moving to Los Angeles, Gary practiced as an attorney in San Francisco. He later served as president of two divisions of IAM.com, an internet entertainment company successfully funded at $50MM. Gary's passion as a storyteller goes beyond producing the work of gifted screenwriters. He's committed to sharing with everyone who desires real success and enduring careers as a creative professional his smart, simple strategies that magically transform talent into business success more rapidly and with greater ease. Gary's spoken at TEDx La Jolla, been published by the Huffington Post, and was a contributing author for the Napoleon Hill Foundation's newest publication "Stickability". Gary also regularly speaks to creative audiences and has given talks at American Film Institute, UCLA, Emerson College, De Anza College, the Dallas Screenwriters Association, the Great American Pitchfest and beyond. Gary's latest endeavor includes CreativeEdge.com where he helps creative professionals have their voices heard, their stories told, and to turn their talents into a career.
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"Talent has to be marketed so you're not the best well kept secret"...
The last few minutes of this when he talks about courage to follow your dreams and create your own vision is pure gold.
"follow you dreams"??? LOL... only disappointment results when you do that. Don't even bother. If you don't know the right people, if you are not "connected", you will go nowhere. It's all about kissing ass and being fake. It not what you know, it's WHO you know.
A good portion of the world is just plain excluded because they are not in the right "club".
@@peterbelanger4094 If that's how you view the world then that's all it will ever be for you. Did you listen to what this person had to say? What dream did you decide was impossible to achieve?
@@peterbelanger4094 what disappointment did you face pursing your dream? I don’t agree with fake it until you make it, everyone’s sick of people pretending to live amazing lives only to be miserable and depressed. Live an authentic life.
I second that! Super inspiring.
@@peterbelanger4094 if you don't follow your dreams then you are living at all. It's not about achievement. It s about trying, giving your best and knowing that you did. Plus if you have a dream it's a curse you can not stop yourself from doing it.
The "how" is a gap that needs to be filled in with information and relationship
"My understanding of life is it's really not that important to understand how... what's really important is to understand what you want and to be very clear about why you want it. At that point the how becomes a collaborative effort between you, the universe, and others who will help you on your path."
A friend of mine who studied painting at art school told me his teacher told him something similar. ‘Talent & skill is only part of it, a successful artist also has to be a good salesman’ You have to promote your work, publicise it, get it noticed, network, make contacts.
Gary is an absolute gem - how blessed we are that you bring his wisdom to us.
Love this clip! Grateful to Gary that he was able to make this happen.
He is.Its the smile he gives as well after he has given you gold.
Whew!....
Insights,gems and bombs dropped.
"Talents needs a companion energy."
@@filmcourage He gave us something no politician or banker would ever tell us. True wisdom.
*_"REGRET IS A TERRIBLE TERRIBLE THING"💯_*
Gary is the best. I took his writing mentoring program years ago and it completely changed my career. Intelligent, well spoken, inspirational and encouraging are a few ways to describe him.
If there ever was a creative bible.
This conversation,would be the genesis for me. I have watched it three times. I deserve better, I need to move out of my comfort zone. Amen.Thank you so much for this channel and all that you do to bring it to us.
Its easy to not believe in yourself. I smiled at the same time he did hahah. Time to use Eric Edson's 9 traits and be Courageous because Action is what drives story forward. Thankyou film courage for your wonderful stories, empathic questions and beautiful sharing of insights. I've been obsessed with character, story and self development for the past few weeks listening every night to Film Courage.
Thankyou.
Cheers! Our best to you Dave!
I am as well. I feel wired bc I feel late to the party and that the majority of people already understand this lol
Mr. Gary always has an encouraging word of wisdom based in reality which is appreciated.
It's the job of agents and managers to discover and promote talent. Obviously, agents are only interested in exploiting already established clients but balance is required. Old clients will fade and so it's in the interest of agents to actively seek clients. It's a lot like panning for gold but it's the job.
Don't stop believing in yourself, and don't keep doing what's comfortable. Fantastic advice.
Hollywood is not a meritocracy?!
I'm shocked! Shocked. Well... not that shocked.
Meritocracy is a lie period. So is individualism.
This REALLY resonated and at the end what Mr Goldstein said got me emotional somewhat. I (like many others) long to hear that.
I'm handsome, talented, and charming. I don't understand social media and marketing and this is the wake up call I needed.
"Talent Without Marketing Won't Get You Far" thats one of the main issues in performing and visual arts. Every Artist hates Marketing...
Thanks Gary, I’m a violinist and singer and I love what I do but really feeling like giving up because marketing which seems like “ranting to me” on social media is absolutely not my thing.
Please make a video that explain a balance between making a work and promoting it without having an agent or manager while still being effective in making good works that really connects and feed the soul of listeners.
Its called music business. Unfortunately, 99.99% of creatives end up with your problem. I quit music for professional reasons because I didn't have a team. You need a team. Period. There is no other way around it. Build a team by marketing yourself as a super kind, cool, and genuine person with a healthy passion for music and build that team by marketing how lovely a person you are. Not a kiss ass or suck up but truly genuine and kind person. Maybe use this conversation to apply it this way in your own life and go ahead - succeed!
@@andresdiaz7112 thanks so much for this kind advice
Don’t ever give up!!!💯 what ever door you have to knock on whatever class you must take do!
@@moniquejohns7737 Thank you Monique, you are such a sweet soul. Your encouragement means a lot.
To be honest to start something you create a beginning and it doesn’t have to be grandiose but what you are comfortable with and you create an audience that notices your work and word of mouth gets you publicly noticed before popularly noticed.
If anything how you uohold yourself starting is what will make and break you but that requires more detailing and character development
Boy, this was a good one. Maybe even the best one yet.
Novelist here, and this man’s words ring true for me: the things I’m trying to achieve. Networking, praising the people I believe in, and receiving positive feedback from likeminded individuals.
The universe listens, but I truly have to work on leaving the stress, fear and neediness behind. All good things come from a place of love-not fear.
Thank you so much for this video
He has, such a gentle insight, truth flows so freely from within him, I can only imagine the pain, it took for him, to come to such enlightenment, truly a blessing, to hear such wisdom, in a day and age, of likes, and dislikes!
This is so inspiring, exactly what I needed to hear, and so well expressed. Thank you Gary and Film Courage!
I love seeing Gary Goldstein's interviews going back years. Maybe we'll cross paths at some point!
I feel like he was talking about me. I've always wanted to make a career doing something artistic in music or writing etc. But I didnt know how.
Thank God for the internet that has made information and opportunity available
Respect to Gary. Thank you for this.
Wow! So inspiring and elegantly formulated! Thank you! ❤️
A very inspiring mindset to follow from Gary!
Being able to market yourself well is fine, but it isn’t the job of the creative to market themselves. It is about agents and marketing firms looking for the next best thing and then marketing those new voices.
Brilliant: Don’t focus on the how, focus on the what.
This was fantastic. So helpful. Thank you!
I needed to hear this video! Truly heartwarming support.
Right on...Thanks for sharing. Gotta get that book, yo.
It’s very perplexing to ponder such thought but that is what we typically ignore which is what limits us and doesn’t set us free from our sheltered self to introduce ourselves to where we want to be
👏😁👏 Браво!!!!! I wish, I heard him, when I was a child! I wish, parents and teachers would hear him, before they open their mouth to break down and discourage another poor soul, and have humanity lose their potential contribution!
“Yes Energy!” ❤️
This is the kind of video that must be presented in schools
It took me time to realize this. Thank you sir❤
Right on time...This is just like the youtube game...So many people with no talent just clout chase and follow trends but they are good at marketing and feeding the audience what they desire. SALUTE...Notes taken🦾🎟🔥
Yup especially on twitch in their weird way
Yeps.some gud channels are unheard
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What up AFI! You write films also ? Great content on your channel
I'm in The Bay also
Wonderful. thank you Gary.
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Loved how he explained "the what", "the why" and "the how".
This was stellar!!!
Thank you for the information .
Vey useful, thank you!
Solid advice.
He is exactly what the film world needs more off. Thank you.
Thanks for watching!
Simply Brilliant. Truly Useful & Direct Information. Thanks!
Glad it was helpful!
Wow that is some serious talk
Good stuff right here. Applies to much more than filmmaking.
I love this guy!
He was speaking facts!!! You can do it!
Wow! Language is so powerful. Gary’s word choice is always precise. Love this! Thanks again, you guys and Gary!:)
Cheers Ken, glad you enjoyed it!
Wish u all the best in what u do!!!
Wish u all the best in what u do!!!
AMEN to this conversation.... Who do you know?
Based on my education, everything here has a basis. Can't wait to meet you sir!!!
Ideas are a group thing, no lone wolf builds a empire.
I'm learning that the marketing aspect of post producing a film project is very much a layered process which needs a devotion of an enormous amount of energy especially if done on a budget.
Excellent video! Really inspiring
Love this one, thanks for watching!
Excellent! Thank you!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Interesting. Thank you 🙏
I know a guy who is a literal modern day picasso. Unbelievable artistic leo-like talent...no marketing skills...
Would love to see his work. Link?
This was powerful 👏
That helps a lot.
Great words. I hope to shake his hand and also Markus Redmond's and Michael Hague. I am on my path because of them all.
A talent cannot be hidden and one has to remember anything becomes obsolete. The spider walks with its web, the snail with its marking agent. No one will know your strengths or even appreciate you if you do not participate. Action comes first. If people like your product, they are the ones who further it. You are known by your works and the world sets a standard Success. One has to remember to be intentional. To know how far you have run, is when your talent has made an impact on someone, then you are a success
It’s almost hard to believe this wonderfully life affirming man works in Hollywood. There need to be more movies ABOUT the Gary Goldsteins in our world. I believe there used to be, until that was deemed corny and boring and unrealistic and not “edgy” enough. There’s nothing corny about this gentleman if you simply allow him to speak for himself.
I love the slight edge
The average guy talking a lot is always going to get ahead of the great guy who says nothing.
you don't have to brag, but you have to let people know you're alive
How is this so underrated?
Good stuff.
So true
He's 100% correct.
What we get a lot of time is marketing without talent or very little of it.
I wish people had to give their background and speak on how they “made it” before going on these whimsical rants about how “all you have to do is believe in yourself.” Cause I can introduce them to two thousand people living in tents in LA who all came out here cause they believed In themselves- I don’t imagine that all these people are full of shit... just maybe forgot reality.
Yes, exactly - I've been doing this for 15 years now - whenever I ask for help, or pitch myself, or submit for an audition, or introduce myself to someone in the industry ...I am ignored. It is not merely a mentality problem, or a lack of motivation, or a fear of leaving one's comfort zone - there is more to it - and being told that it's not, is beyond condescending. We have bills to pay. My Demo Reel video is attached here - my guess is that, once again; no one will watch it: ruclips.net/video/zjpoDgV-0Sc/видео.html
@@Craig-gq4gb I'd rather die trying then give up 😈
@@samlukowski3562 i beg u, erase these Words ' give up'. From ur personal lexicon. Fix some up more tricky slicky marketing strategies. U Will have it. I aM with cha.
@@BestAfroRappaPoppin I never planned on giving up - thank you, Bruv!
Hope you reach your dreams 🧚♂️ U are worth it!
What always boggles me is how SO many movies and tv shows are made that are SO bad. And its not like subjective bad it's like anyone watching 10 seconds into the trailer is like "this is horrible" yet they have 100million dollar budgets. Why?! lol why does that happen
This is true. Look at the so so actors who are box office stars mainly based from self marketing.
Very sad . That's why these days there is no movies worth watching anymore. Because connections come first and talent second...
Very true .. but there’s also levels to talent. The lesser the talent, the more solid your marketing needs to be.
I'm on the road to success! #ASPIREFORCHANGE
Thank god someone said the truth I’ve seen so many singers on RUclips who can out sing the original and think more skill but no deal lmaoo
Good vid
Wow...this is an insight! what is the name of the body mic on Gary please?
Story of my life.
Money is everything
Thank you. I'm going to go 🙏🏼
Talent will only get u far without marketing = hire yourself a talented marketer.
Talent at marketing
Make companionship with doers and not just dreamers. Those who will support you.
6:06 on fear: may I suggest Joost Merloo
What’s the book they are talking about? Kristin..?
LOL We have a link in the description.
Yeah, this is my problem. All the story ideas, talent, hustle, and knowledge loses out to the person who marketed and kissed booty better. Le sigh.
Not always. You have to find innovative ways to distribute your work if you really believe in it or learn more skills to do so.
Once you accept the fact that life isn’t fair, it’s easier. So many people make it by being well connected. Talent really does come second. Sad but true.
@Joseph Rockford Just because you don't stop trying doesn't mean you'll succeed eventually.
I mean Kanye is a vivid example. Of marketing
If youre dedicates to your CRAFT, then marketing will come.
Enlightened…except.
Some persons truly want to believe that they are, for example, screenwriters, yet are more wired to either nursing or being a drywall wizard. Surrounding oneself with persons who categorically affirm that your screenplay attempts are 100% worthwhile (when they are not), are not your true friends. There is a soberness; a circumspection to one’s own life which is critical to personal happiness. Finding this is key.
Only you know when your screenplay are 100% worthwhile. No one else can help you with that
Unless you're George Lucas or someone at that level, I really don't think you could ever get 100% positive feedback. If you're being honest with yourself and you put your work out into the world, you'll eventually get some honest critique of your work. Not saying some people aren't fooling themselves but how do you know until you at least try?
@@gijane2cantwaittoseeyou203 People cannot judge themselves objectively. It’s just not possible.
@@emhu2594 It is. As an artist, it is up to you to know what you want to create and only you know if you got where you want. Other people will judge you based on what they like and their perception of what art should be, which is often irrelevant whether the critcism is good or bad.
Er...no talent will always carry you on...of course marketing helps but how many things made (around 99%) have relied on hype and marketing and yet it's failed miserably because it was wretched (too many to count) it depends also if your film is an Indy or big blockbuster.
All I’m missing is the marketing
What are your thoughts on talent and marketing?
With social media anyone can be a star now days. People can do a corny dance and go viral faster than someone who can sing, went to acting school or perfected their craft which is sad but its reality 💯🏆
Marketing one's self. Think global, act local.
My thoughts are.....I suck at marketing and networking and need to up my game!
I am already working onto a real teen titans adaptation on paper even as you speak film courage and more….
I can see where all good phenomenons that I have grown well with are going too…
And I am working on a hobby Japan queens blade adaptation as well spoilers it’s based on episode one
To quote abed from the community cool cool cool
And I am working on a teenagers with attitude film based on haim saban a power rangers from the 1990s ad
And mega man too based on the 1990s tv show and see how it will play out in my brain
Wow that wasn’t a talk it was medicine
Connect with “The Doers” Not “The Dreamers”
I just filmed content for an hour saying this exact same thing what he was able to do in 12min and 10 seconds. (I know editing but still) 😩