If you could control Darkspawns with blood magic, how did the Tevinter Empire ever struggled during the First Blight? They were all over blood magic back then.
@@cammyshill3099 That blight was from the Titans' severed souls/dreams/magic. Current blight is from Evanuris unleashed from the fade prison. Different structure, perhaps? That said, writing and dialogue is still shitty.
It's less controlling them via blood magic, and more controlling the blight directly, which is different. It's the same thing that Cordyceps did in Inq, but on a WHOLE other level, given the Old Magister wasn't quite able to do it to the Blight itself, meanwhile, as we see in one part, the Top God of the Elven Pantheon was indeed able to do just that, down to controlling RAW blight, not inside someone, but just blight out in the world.
It’s more a matter of Elgar’nan imparting that knowledge to them directly, since he probably knows how to control Darkspawn already and can just teach other people how to cast the necessary spells
I'm not a fan of the Executor retcon. Having a secret third party manipulate events from the start feels cheap. It especially feels cheap knowing that every single villain in this series was being guided by them. Loghain went from a complex and nuanced character who betrayed Cailan of his own volition due to his extreme hatred of Orlais to being stripped of all agency because the Executors made him do it. It's just a weak way to introduce a new threat. And there's also the fact that everything we've done in previous games is rendered null. Ferelden, Kirkwall, and Orlais fall to the Blight, so all that time spent there trying to save those places now means nothing. That doesn't even get into the other retcons. What a disastrous story this is.
Not buying or playing this game. Im a huge DAO fan and this game is trash compared to it. Much love for the video!! Here to find out what happens without giving my hard earned money to new BioWare.
I loved origin, was cool with 2, but everything after has been terrible for me :( I couldn't even get inquisition to run for years and even then it barely ran and that was on the PlayStation that it was released for...
"This review will have spoilers, so make sure you beat the game first." Dude, the whole reason I watch videos like this are so I dont have to play the game.
You know all those interesting, complex villians throughout the series? Yeah well, fuck them, they're actually being manipulated. Modern storytelling continues to retroactively make previous media worse
....sry dude but thats nothing new, this trope comes really often. I dont like it either but i see it so often that i say for myself that these people would still done it, they just needed a little push.
Every piece of content produced in a franchise that was written by anyone other than the original creators is fanfic. Every adaptation is fanfic. Most video game sequels are fanfic. Hell, most original works are fanfic with the original names filed off. Dragon Age was started as a franchise because BioWare didn’t want to work with Hasbro/Wizards for another Balder’s Gate.
One correction: Solas doesn't kill Flemeth/Mythal at the end of the Trespasser DLC. He does it in the post credit of the Inquistion main game. Trespasser is when he removes the Inquisitor's arm and anchor.
Wait wait wait... Archdemons are not Dragons with the soul of an old God, but Dragons corrupted/enslaved by elven gods? But doesn't Morrigan do her ritual thingie in Origins specifically to put the soul of an Old God, liberated from the slain Archdemon, inside her baby? Am I remembering it wrong?
Yes that was the soul of an Evanuris. It was taken by Flemeth in Inqusition. The Evanuris used their pets to return to the world while their bodies remained left where they were.
@@BlackfangDragon Oooh. So the Archdemons were elven gods in the body of a dragon. Were they actually aware of that? If so, why did they try to do the exact same thing (Blight) five times? You'd think they'd try something different. These are actual questions btw, I'm confused about this whole point.
@@nicosonico94 They were basically plan world domination via the blight considering what Solas has mentioned. And yeah they were aware of that, Solas admits he didn’t realize the Evanuris were able to control their dragons and even jump into them thanks to the blight when he made the Veil. This is also effectively to explain how Corypheus was following in their footsteps, even figuring out the secret to “effective immortality” as Silas called it in Inquisition as we saw with his own blighted dragon to keep himself immortal.
The fact that Varric was dead the whole time and there was almost no mention after you learn about this and no 'clues' beyond him not leaving his room. You can hardly call this a twist. They did a beloved character SO dirty.
There are clues though, you just didn't catch them. Varric is ignored in all the meetings, whenever anyone brings him up Rook changes the subject immediately (almost compulsively), and Varric very clearly telegraphs that he's probably going to die at the beginning of the game. Its actually pretty obvious once the twist is revealed.
The whole "He was actually dead the whole time and what you saw was an apparition!" is the lamest plot twist imaginable and was dated even two decades ago. Maybe it could work if written well and smartly set up, but it's still incredibly cliché.
I can’t believe my HoF and his son Kieran were completely ignored in this game. I can’t bring myself to play this game man, the story is so disappointing.
Remember the ONLY things that mattered is wheter you romanced Solas (who gets banished to the fade because he's a beloved character) and what happened to the Inquisition in Trespasser according to Bioware. So only the last half hour of the last DLC in Inquisition are the only things Bioware felt was worth carrying over.
@AL-lh2ht Let's assume that's the case, the choice he brought up was so significant it was a plot point of Inquisition and isn't a choice that is carried over here where it would be most relevant.
To be fair, they said over and over that the HoF AND the Champion of Kirkwall/Gray Warden companion wouldn’t be in this game. This was back when the writers who created Dragon Age and Thedas were still working on Dreadwolf. The original intent seemed to be that the FINAL resolution of the story, or at least the story of the group of characters we’ve played as and with, would have been wrapped up in 5. But then BioWare fired all the original writers that were still employed there and they scrapped the story of Dreadwolf and shifted to what we got in Veilguard. The story feels disconnected and clunky and rushed because it IS.
30:20 The golden city not being the seat of the maker is the worst kept secret in all the games up till now. It was all but stated by the developer to be Arlathan shunted to the fade. It's also one of the few things in the Dragon Age series that is extremely stupid since there is evidence Everywhere and I mean Everywhere that Arlathan is the Golden city. But the world acts as if its some insane leap in logic.
It was ridiculous that they didn't have the maker be an actual entity. That would've made "the secret" that really isn't a secret have more bite to it. A better secret is if we found out the maker was around since the time of the elves and titans but was completely neutral during the war, or better yet, he be the one pulling the strings between elves and titans causing them to kill each other so he can amass more power without starting a war.
@@kostuchan4418 No LOL. Also Arlathan didn't fall it was a floating city and it disappeared one day. It didn't crash, there are no ruins of it, poof gone.
State the Codex page! I spent almost a year going through all the games collecting all the codex pages on The Blight, Evanuris, Old Gods, Fade, Black City, Arlathan, and Veil. For a write-up on how they were all connected. Outside of estimations of years or “it happened at the middle of the first era” type logging. There is no confirmation date on the first time the black city was seen and when Arlathan disappeared. Also, outside of comments on reddit or rumors in games I have found no actual timeline showing that the black city existed before Arlathan disappeared. Some monks in a side corner claiming “the black city has existed forever” means nothing when you understand he is preaching his religion not history. The only timeline we have 100% fact on is black city was raided post the disappearance of Arlathan.
Even after so many years and having an example on how to do the final mission good, they still failed, all your choices and hard work have literally no meaning because they wanted for you player character to have regrets lol. Retconned literally whole series and in the end implying that next game will be on the different place entirely, why would you call it a dragon age, if you butchered everything that made this world, thank God I did not buy this. I wish we could all pretend that this game does not exist. Thank you for your work
that and bioware are well known for their ability to go to a entirely new... galaxy.. and have the storyline be just as deep and impactful as the previous games... (looks over awkwardly at andromeda)... I have no idea whos plan this was but its a bad plan..
Well this video was interesting. It confirms for me that they should have kept the name "dreadwolf" The whole veil breaking thing seems like a straight rehash of inquisition, but man, that true ending stuff and lore dump with solas and the elves and golden palace, thats pretty cool. The varric twist being the same as the mgs5 paz reveal is, eh, but sounds like it works a bit better here, still sucks but given it was solas who did it and that matters narrative wise, it sounds well done from the video anyway. Also the party being able to die and stuff, and one being straight forced to die is unexpected. However, I am glad i spent 40 minutes rather than dozens of hours or however long it took. Given the lore stuff seemed mostly finale based. Wasn't a fan of the full action game shift, inquisition was a nice upgrade to origin IMO. Then you have the overall writing quality, it just screamed "modern" which, i don't want in an old timey pre gunpowder fantasy world with high magic...the pixar/disneyfication bit seemed so over the top, it probably would have soured any cool lore dumps after hours of hearing it. Also wtf was with all those frumpy/short elves? Thats what dwarves are for. It really does seem like there was a good foundation, then the lead guy left, the project was thrown to the 'new age' types and we got a lot of bad writing with tidbits of goodness. Shame really.
Slight nitpick: the setting isn't pre-gunpowder, but the gunpowder is faction locked. The technology level otherwise is also more likely 17. or 18. Century.
One simple addition they could've made to make it more like Dao would've been letting us play the backstory of how rook meets varrick like how Dao let you play your origin and how you met Duncan.
What godawful decisions BioWare has made with the Dragon Age lore. The origin of the Blight, the Golden City, the Old Gods … all of it is just the laziest bullshit imaginable. I refuse to acknowledge Veilguard as a true Dragon Age sequel. For me, this is just shitty fan fiction, and the DA series ended with Inquisition.
And we know who wrote this fanfic! Varric's rival from DAI. 😅 Explains Varric stupid death: no one in the team ever talks to Rook about Varric. Even Inquisitor doesn't mention Varric's absence... No one who should care ever really cares. Why? Bad fanfiction of Varric's rival!
@@sveipr The Old Gods were hinted at being totally alien to Thedas, or at least having no connection to the elves. Ditto the Black City. There was a slight parallel between the Blight and the corruption within the Stone, but it was vague at best.
@@healsallwoundsPeople were theorizing the Evanuris and Old Gods were connected if not the same since Origins. For example the fact they have the exact same number and mirroring aspects. Silence/secrets, Hearth/Fire, Sun/Night, etc. Not to mention the myths of both being sealed away into the fade, being sealed in the same place, the fact that an Eluvian mirror was tainted with the blight which shouldn't be possible, the myths of the Evlen God Andruil crafting a dark armor that makes her powerful yet insane. I wonder if there is any dark dorce that makes people insane yet powerful? Just because you didn't see the signs doesn't mean they didn't exist.
I hate this game's dialogue and I hate EA Bioware for everything they've done to DA but I can't understand why some people Dislikes THIS video too. This is a well done video explaining the things that happened, nothing more. Don't prove to those assholes that we're just trolls who hates for the sake of hating.
Because a ton of the people _are_ trolls who just hate to hate. Sorry, but that's just how it is. Maybe some are different, maybe you're different, but by and large people are just looking for things to rage at.
How are the Archdemons not Old Gods and just pet High Dragons basically? Literally one ending in Origins was using the unborn child of Morrigan to trap the Old God in a new lifeform, which wouldnt be corrupted by the DarkSpawn. This game really did fuck everything up, jesus.
This is not an RPG, it's a mediocre linear action/adventure game. The very little RPG elements have zero influence on the story. All compagnons are the same, they cannot even die during combat. The worst of all is the writing and the stupid dialogues during cutscenes. This is not Dragon Age, it's God of War for Disney fans. Maybe 12-18 years old teens will like this game. I wasted 70 hours on this crap. The positive: the game is gorgeous on PC, it's a joy for the eye and the final part (2-3 hours) is phenomenal (compared to the rest of the game). My advice: grab it on a sale and play it if you really don't have anything else to do.
Somebody has kidnapped this mans family, and they clearly demanded ransom via high quality video essays. Another banger video Gingy, and with blistering speed. You're work is impressive just dont burn out brother. You're welfare matters to us too. ❤
Solas screaming like some Weeb Villian as he gets banished, will never not irritate me. It’s Kai Leng 2 Electric Boogaloo. Except they butcher a well-established character to do it.
@@MusicaX79 They want to turn Dragon Age into something else. We saw this with movies as well, Rings of Power for example. People who hate the souce material and the audience and purposely attempt to rewrite franchises into their own vision.
@@gavincarothers595 The ending of Inquisition, especially in Trespasser showed that his character was the same. He acknowledged that the current world has value, he also states that he knows he is going to kill millions. He's not happy about any of this, he's not closing his eyes to it either, and most importantly he's not making excuses. It’s why he doesn’t tell the Inquisitor ‘gear up I’m going to kill you and everyone’ he says ‘prepare for the apocalypse that is to come because I know you can handle the consequences.’ In his mind he went from heaven to earth, while it's not hell it's still a vastly different landscape than heaven. He sees value in this earth, but it’s not where he believes he belongs. Listening to him calmly explain everything even when he has been wronged by the inquisitor shows an extreme control over his emotions. For him to go from that to him screaming “Your nothing but a mortal.” Is not only jarring but absurd. I want to point out: “Your nothing but a Mortal.” - Solas DA Veilguard “Your nothing but a mere Human.” - Ribbons Almark Gundam 00 I wonder where they got the dialog from? I’m not joking here his character change and the way he talks is almost parody of Ribbons Almark, it’s cringe.
Why would the Qunari army help the Elven gods? They virulently hate anything related to magic. Oh, right. If they didn't do it this way they would have been forced to go back to the series' old representation of the Qunari as alien, weird hyper-collectivist people involved in a really messy religious war with the Tevinter, and that's just too unpleasant of a depiction for modern gaming standards I guess. Everyone has to be fundamentally nice, and the poor Qunaris and Tevinter don't have any issues with each others, it's just those darn army men and a few bad guys. Why are the Venatori following Elven gods too for that matter? The Venatori want to bring back the old Tevinter Empire, they wouldn't care for the gods of their slave race that they plan to use only for blood sacrifices. Those people should be virulently opposed to anything dealing with Elves trying to raise their heads, divine or not. And what even are Veil Jumpers? Weird Dalish? Elven knowledge from the ancient times was supposed to be almost entirely gone and these people are just hopping between ancient technology? Oh, the Antaam, the body of the Qun, just comes out saying "the Qun is garbage"? Qunaris breathe fire now? Orzammar, the last remaining Dwarf city (we forgot about that other one anyway), all of Ferelden and the Free Marches are destroyed by lolwut Blights? The entire retcon with the Archdemons is just... I'm not even gonna comment on it. And they're setting up Dragon Age's own version of Andromeda too? 'Cause that went so well? As for the positives... I guess this necromancer Emmerich guy looks pretty cool, he seems the only actually likable companion in this whole thing. I can't believe it. They destroyed everything. There's nothing left. You can vaguely see the original backstory they made for the world, and maybe that was salvageable, but everything else... This game is so bad it made Trump win again, and I'm not sure anymore if that's a joke or the partial truth. I want Bioware to go bankrupt so they can never make another game again, and these devs get blacklisted and go working in retail. This is genuinely awful. The forced gender talks may be the best part of the game, because at least they're funny.
I kinda get why they decided to take out the games previous choices and decide to make a canon. After 3 games and earth effecting events like mages or templars in inquisition or Morgan or inquisitor go into the knowledge pool. But it’s kinda weird that we don’t know if Morgan’s has a son or not
They did Dorian dirty😭, He looks nothing like the Inquisition version. I can overlook many things about the game but not that, and also why we couldn't just play as the OG Inquisitor. I see no valid reason why they introduced a new main character instead of the OG. You're telling me that my Inquisitor gave a badass speech at the end of Trespasser about how the Inquisition is now disband and how he and his team are going after Solas, only for him to go fight dark-spawns as a side character somewhere while Varic, Harding and a random dude name Rook take center stage??
If you recall, the Inquisitor also gave a badass speech about how they had to find someone Solas does not know and can't predict. Inquisitor was never meant to be the protagonist in the fourth game.
@@easternlights3155 I actually don't recall that. Nevertheless, it would be more, shall I say "impactful" if we carried over directly from the last game as the original team. Introducing a new character as the main and making side characters integral points kinda feels...cheap or forced..if that makes sense. It be tolerable if they at least gave the role Varic plays now to the Inquisitor, him leading and advising "Rook" but not dead as Varic is so that the romance sacrifice scene in the end would be possible. Granted they would have to rework the questline since Varic/Inquisitor wouldn't be dead or if dead, appear in spirit form or something. But what's done is done and I can't do anything about it.
@@KyleBrowser No dragon Age has carried over the previous team. Usually one returning character max. And the entire point of Trespasser specifically and arguably Inquisition is that the Inquisition _must_ end. Have the adventure then give up power and stand down. What did you think the whole " They put away their swords" thing Mother Giselle was talking about meant. Or when the Divine wrote " The Left Hand should lay down her burden." That's why Trespasser ends with either the Inquisition pairing down to a skeleton crew to serve the divine as a sort of honor guard or just disbanding entirely. All that before the Inquisitor says they need to finds somebody new and stabs his dagger into a map of Tevinter.
@@Awaken_To_0 I understand your point, and I agree. Playing as the inquisitor might have been wishful thinking or a stretch on my part.. But I guess what I'm trying to say is that the way the new MC was introduced isn't as "smooth" as I wish it could have been, especially side-lining the inquisitor like that. As I stated in one of my comments, if they gave him the role that Varic plays in this with a few tweaks at the final mission it would have made an objectively "better" narrative in my opinion. It just feels weird seeing Varic and Harding take centre stage like that for me, idk why.. But I suppose given the other options, they were more flexible.
So, Flemeth doesn’t make much sense, right? Morrigan essentially states that possessing Mythal’s soul does not make her immortal. So how did Flemeth manage to stay alive for so long? If the Flemeth we meet is indeed the same Flemeth from centuries ago, and if she inherited Mythal’s soul from previous vessels, then why is this Flemeth specifically immortal until Solas kills her? Isn’t this a pretty big retcon? Logically, Flemeth didn’t give Morrigan her consciousness or anything like that-just memories and a fragment of Mythal’s soul. Or does this imply that the Flemeth we meet might actually be a distant descendant who remembers the life of her ancestor and simply continues the name “Flemeth”? It feels like either a significant oversight in writing or perhaps yet another retcon. I also HATE the reveal that Andraste was just one of Mythal’s vessels. Why did they have to strip away any nuance around whether Andrastianism has some credibility, even in its basic tenets?
Solas killed Flemeth who had been gathering power because “I WILL SEE HER AVENGED!” had not been idle, she just did her part in the shadows and gathered what she could. Whatever power she had, and potentially even Junes soul after it was removed from Kieran, were things Solas took to complete his plans. Morrigan therefore got even less of Mythal than her mother did.
@@BlackfangDragonExactly. Morrigan states that basically all she got were Mythal's memories. Even aside from that Ageless isn't the same as immortal. Even Flemeth could and did die in Dragon Age Origins, hence the whole need for the ritual in Dragon Age 2. From 2 onwards the Flemeth we see is more like a clone that grew from a starfish's arm then the Witch of the wilds that saved the Warden.
We learn, all the way back in Origins via Morrigan's questline, that Flemeth has been keeping herself alive by transferring her essence into her daughters, i.e. Mythal entered Flemeth and was passed down to her daughters at which point the memories and personality of Flemeth seem to override that daughters identity, though we also learn from Flemeth that it's a choice she gives to her daughters, so that's how she lived for so long, it also leads to hilarity when you let Morrigan take the well of soul's power, because it makes her a slave to the elven gods, including her mother who she did everything in her power to escape. Solas killing Mythal is because he needed the power to start the veil-sundering ritual he begins putting together in the last Inquisition DLC, and finally starts in Veilguard, though admittedly it's handled awkwardly as it's just a throwaway line in Veilguard when Solas is pissed off at you for screwing the plan up the first time.
What hurts the most is how good this game could've been if the writing was better. The graphics look really good, some of the characters are pretty interesting, the ending involving Solas redeeming himself is actually really good, and the gameplay is fun at times. It's like Mass Effect: Andromeda all over again. All the good things in the game are overshadowed by an awful story.
Great video but man does this all feel like a slap in the face to prior DA Lore. Sure, there were signs that what the modem age knew wasn't correct (esp. regarding Andraste & the Chantry), but these answers seem too... Derivative. The secret "it was all the Illuminati" tease at the end didn't help anything either.
The Chantry continues to tell the story between its lines, perhaps even beyond what Solas knows. It just ever more obviously doesn't tell the whole story. Solas himself can entertain the idea that the Maker has worked through him (honest DAI banter with him), and the Fade is now written to reveal the occasional surprise miracle. The Chant was always a highly politically motivated and highly amended theology, but its never been disregarded as trash lore. Its just a wink from writers about the concept of religions providing an interesting and abstracted history, but not necessarily absolute concrete truth. Everyone's 'disproven' in Dragon Age. The Qun is set for future dismantling. Tevinter has had its second giant shock. The elves' case is thrown wide open. But they're all going to still have a role to play for the future. Elves aren't going to sit on their hands. Ideally, we'll have elves fracture into trying to salvage something of the Evanuris (room to still have stories like the theory of Sera connection with Andruil), or turn away from them even more entirely than the typical city elf, or be closer to Veil Jumpers and focus on constructing a new version of Elvenhan. Tevinter may be in for healing, but it also may be in for civil war due to a still entrenched enough owner class. The Chantry is only not immune to this tumult. This wasn't a game for mystery, just as DA2 arguably wasn't. They chose the name 'Rook' for a reason. Powerful, striving, but generally just moving forward. We got our big splashes and it'd be up to the next game to elaborate on how even our new assumptions aren't quite right, or may even be entirely wrong.
Man, these characters look goofy AF. It's like a children's cartoon of a fantasy story. And as I understand it, the plot and dialogue is pretty much on that level too...
Videos like this are a service to us all. It lets us have all the disappointment, but saving us $60 and dozens of hours to we would normally take to reach it.
This whole thing makes me angry. You can see the skeleton, the early draft that most likely came from early development, back when it was called Dreadwolf. With the right minds writing the script, and without the hijacking of it all, this could've been an amazing finale to the serie, or at the very least, a great sequel. But no, instead we get generic villains, modern day politics and dialog written by and for a 6 year old. Damn shame.
the story of this game is wild.. and the ending trope of "ahahaha we were secretly playing everyone from the start "twirls evil moustasche" is so bad.. I hope they retcon varrics death or find a way to bring him back alive. cause honestly having them destroy bianca at the start of the game like its nothing and kill varric is basically doing a star wars.. with luke throwing away his lightsaber and han getting killed.. it just shits on everything that people liked about the franchise.. The problem is they've written themselves into a hole now and i dont know how they will recover without some major retcons.. because they've basically just killed off all the main cast or those that are still alive are either lost or preoccupied. is this really gonna be the first time in DA that the MC comes back for a sequel as a playable character? cause thats kinda the only way this story can move forward..
Thank you for this video, i tried to finish this game but even as a gift i couldn't go past 20 hours because of the god awful dialogues and characters. Edit : The final act of the game seems to be LEAGUES above of the other arcs, what a waist of potential.
Sounds like dragon ages version of World of Warcrafts shadowlands expansion. Glad i watched this. Also hate the art direction. Big dragon age fan, but I'll pass.
Man I can't believe how far dragon age has come I got it for the 360 for like 5$ used at GameStop and loved it but haven't finished any of them shame on me
My man said Make sure you play the game first before you watch this me coming to this video specifically to not play the game lol love your videos still my G
I was strategic to get the best ending. No one died but Harding and ended with an act of love. Had a great time with the game. Will definitely do another playthru for a different ending.
The Post Credit scene feels like them trying to plant seeds for more in this universe, given...well we just DEALT with the big threats. There will never be another capital B Blight in this world, there's no more archdemons, and as stated in this game, before this started, the powers that be were finally winning against the random blight, even retaking parts of the Deep Roads. Heck, the Golden Ending is, according to the devs, with an altered line for whatever city was sacrificed, to be implying that the blight is now fully contained, and the bits of it out in the world, without a connection to the core of it inside the Black City, is dying off. That said, this is the same dev post that told us that the post credit scene WASN'T supposed to be implying that this group was behind all those events...despite, you know, that being the POINT of the scene.
I do like that they finally explained the some of the deeper lore. Dwarves descending from Titans, The Golden City and Fantasy-Christianity being a lie, all interesting. Tacking on that bit about *"manipulation"* though is pretty lazy. Literally yanked that one right from Marvel.
I will say this, they/them (Bellara) could be easily replaced by Merrill (an actual good and established character. HoF could appear instead of the inquisitior, with character creation right before meeting him (like Hawke) This game is such a letdown not because it's bad (well it is) but mostly because it takes a dump on a 3 games legacy with beloved characters and CHOICES you made. They had so many opportunities to bring back old characters to this game because literally everyone should be going to tevinter because the end of the world.
Except it’s been 20 years since Origins, meaning that even if the HoF was alive, they’d be in the Deep Roads answering The Calling. Not to mention, The Inquisitor appears due to their connection with Solas and, through him, the Elven Gods, as well as their experience with the Venatori. Furthermore, it’s possible for the HoF to die in Origins by killing the Archdemon without Morrigan’s ritual. Look, I know that this game wasn’t great and a lot of people were hoping for something different, but if you are going to criticize it, at least take the time to properly understand what you’re saying/asking for.
This story is wild and only addresses dwarf and elven lore. I can see how what the chantry follow could be false but to ignore Leilana dying and coming back to life with Andraste's ashes. There has to be some other power at play there. Also no mention of Morrigans child again!?! Like the insinuation was she was taken over from Flemeth and she was rasing another child for her body to encumber 🙄🙄🙄. Cool aspects but heavily flawed, while ignoring original reasons people were so hung up on this series, only to wrap up the lackluster DA2 lore and Inquisition. And the choices in the game to see whose character you dislike the most die??? Friggin kill em all, please. Whiny bunch. I thought Inquisitions good party pool became small.
Thank you for making this. It was a struggle to watch, mainly because it sucked seeing Dragon Age fall off and the world I loved get turned into this. It's a game but not what Dragon age deserved.
This...this genuinely hurts. Ten years we've been waiting. And we get this. This soulless patchjob identity crisis. They retcon the lore in ways that don't make sense, they rip apart established events and tell you that your choices -in a series whose claim to fame was in how your choices affected the world- don't matter, just hold on the rail and 'enjoy' the rigidly tracked ride. I feel like how solas must have felt having to help Wisdom die in Inquisition, or how Alastor must have felt waking up to find he and the Warden were the last ones left in Fereldon. Except those tragedies fit in the established world like a tailor made bespoke suit. This feels like something off the rack at walmart. I mean yeah it follows the barebones basics of a story but it certainly doesn't fit or look as the mannequins wear it.
I was very curious about the story of the companions, but I understood why I didn't want to go into the subject in the video, anyway, very good video, thank you for being so quick to send it.
So the endings are Sola goes into the fade, Solas goes into the fade with the inquisitor and Solas goes into the fade with you? …Featuring the super secret squirrel organization who was behind everything all along? So not only is this game ass, is makes every game prior to it mean completely nothing?!!
Wait, I think there is a mistake here. Blight is not necessarily a product of the titans. We discover that Red lyrium is "enraged lyrium" in the game (Harding missions), not blighted. It is likely that the "executors" blighted the enraged titans, fooling the elves. (Solas among the others). So we have "enraged lyrium" and "blighted lyrium". Two different things.
Even though so many people criticize this game I still wants to try it because so many people with so many opinions, even my friends who never played any of the dragon age games tried veilguard and they actually enjoyed it 🤔, so that's why despite veilguard goods and bads I still wants to give it a try,oh and also put Solas into the ground 👿.
I have never seen a post game teaser for extra content undermine the story so much. They managed to tie up the mysetry of the vale and the elven gods/maker perfectly. Then they fucked it all up.
"Controlling dark spawn through blood magic"
Oh boy, that would have been useful in all the other blights lmaaoooooo
If you could control Darkspawns with blood magic, how did the Tevinter Empire ever struggled during the First Blight? They were all over blood magic back then.
@@cammyshill3099 That blight was from the Titans' severed souls/dreams/magic. Current blight is from Evanuris unleashed from the fade prison. Different structure, perhaps?
That said, writing and dialogue is still shitty.
@@BiteSizedProduction The thing is, it’s already been done. Isseya, the Grey Warden, used blood magic on darkspawn during the Fourth Blight.
It's less controlling them via blood magic, and more controlling the blight directly, which is different. It's the same thing that Cordyceps did in Inq, but on a WHOLE other level, given the Old Magister wasn't quite able to do it to the Blight itself, meanwhile, as we see in one part, the Top God of the Elven Pantheon was indeed able to do just that, down to controlling RAW blight, not inside someone, but just blight out in the world.
It’s more a matter of Elgar’nan imparting that knowledge to them directly, since he probably knows how to control Darkspawn already and can just teach other people how to cast the necessary spells
I'm not a fan of the Executor retcon. Having a secret third party manipulate events from the start feels cheap. It especially feels cheap knowing that every single villain in this series was being guided by them. Loghain went from a complex and nuanced character who betrayed Cailan of his own volition due to his extreme hatred of Orlais to being stripped of all agency because the Executors made him do it. It's just a weak way to introduce a new threat. And there's also the fact that everything we've done in previous games is rendered null. Ferelden, Kirkwall, and Orlais fall to the Blight, so all that time spent there trying to save those places now means nothing. That doesn't even get into the other retcons. What a disastrous story this is.
Yeah. Its actually world ruining bad. Like im not interested at all in anything dragon age has to say going forward
Prob something to do with the writers trooning out but leftists don’t seem to think so
Not buying or playing this game. Im a huge DAO fan and this game is trash compared to it. Much love for the video!! Here to find out what happens without giving my hard earned money to new BioWare.
The Jailer strikes again. lol
@@C5DynamiteI was literally about to say this.
I love the Dragon Age series, but this game genuinely feels like short term memory loss summed up as a videogame
it takes everything you did in Origins and most of the other games and takes a giant dump all over it. this game is a disgrace.
I loved origin, was cool with 2, but everything after has been terrible for me :( I couldn't even get inquisition to run for years and even then it barely ran and that was on the PlayStation that it was released for...
"This review will have spoilers, so make sure you beat the game first."
Dude, the whole reason I watch videos like this are so I dont have to play the game.
Even then I'm not including it as canon.
Same man 😂
same here xD
@@MikeThaDevilgood thing its not up to you
@@sonnieslim5973 It is actually, tourist.
You know all those interesting, complex villians throughout the series? Yeah well, fuck them, they're actually being manipulated. Modern storytelling continues to retroactively make previous media worse
I can't believe the Jailer manipulated every bad guy in DA!!! Truely aone of the best twist.
....sry dude but thats nothing new, this trope comes really often. I dont like it either but i see it so often that i say for myself that these people would still done it, they just needed a little push.
@@tonyspizza6606 Bad writing doesn't become better just because other people have done it.
@@65firered dont get your point sry
@@tonyspizza6606 "Just because everyone is doing it, doesn't mean it's the right thing to do"
This whole game feels like a really expensive fanfic
Every piece of content produced in a franchise that was written by anyone other than the original creators is fanfic.
Every adaptation is fanfic. Most video game sequels are fanfic.
Hell, most original works are fanfic with the original names filed off.
Dragon Age was started as a franchise because BioWare didn’t want to work with Hasbro/Wizards for another Balder’s Gate.
@@christopheraustin5915🤓☝️
That’s because that’s exactly what it is.
One correction: Solas doesn't kill Flemeth/Mythal at the end of the Trespasser DLC. He does it in the post credit of the Inquistion main game.
Trespasser is when he removes the Inquisitor's arm and anchor.
Wait wait wait... Archdemons are not Dragons with the soul of an old God, but Dragons corrupted/enslaved by elven gods? But doesn't Morrigan do her ritual thingie in Origins specifically to put the soul of an Old God, liberated from the slain Archdemon, inside her baby? Am I remembering it wrong?
You're right. It's another retcon in the long list of retcons this game does to it's detriment.
the game gos out of its way to shit on pretty much everything origins did, along with most of the other games.
Yes that was the soul of an Evanuris. It was taken by Flemeth in Inqusition. The Evanuris used their pets to return to the world while their bodies remained left where they were.
@@BlackfangDragon Oooh. So the Archdemons were elven gods in the body of a dragon. Were they actually aware of that? If so, why did they try to do the exact same thing (Blight) five times? You'd think they'd try something different. These are actual questions btw, I'm confused about this whole point.
@@nicosonico94 They were basically plan world domination via the blight considering what Solas has mentioned.
And yeah they were aware of that, Solas admits he didn’t realize the Evanuris were able to control their dragons and even jump into them thanks to the blight when he made the Veil.
This is also effectively to explain how Corypheus was following in their footsteps, even figuring out the secret to “effective immortality” as Silas called it in Inquisition as we saw with his own blighted dragon to keep himself immortal.
The fact that Varric was dead the whole time and there was almost no mention after you learn about this and no 'clues' beyond him not leaving his room. You can hardly call this a twist. They did a beloved character SO dirty.
They saw MGSV and think it was a nice twist so they copied it.
@@efrenarevalo2025 But they didn't understand it at all so they ended up completely messing even the most basic things.
There are clues though, you just didn't catch them. Varric is ignored in all the meetings, whenever anyone brings him up Rook changes the subject immediately (almost compulsively), and Varric very clearly telegraphs that he's probably going to die at the beginning of the game. Its actually pretty obvious once the twist is revealed.
The whole "He was actually dead the whole time and what you saw was an apparition!" is the lamest plot twist imaginable and was dated even two decades ago. Maybe it could work if written well and smartly set up, but it's still incredibly cliché.
@@giorgialadashvili4771 You should consult, your brain might be missing.
I can’t believe my HoF and his son Kieran were completely ignored in this game. I can’t bring myself to play this game man, the story is so disappointing.
Remember the ONLY things that mattered is wheter you romanced Solas (who gets banished to the fade because he's a beloved character) and what happened to the Inquisition in Trespasser according to Bioware. So only the last half hour of the last DLC in Inquisition are the only things Bioware felt was worth carrying over.
real talk, every single dragon age game barely brought anything over.
@AL-lh2ht Let's assume that's the case, the choice he brought up was so significant it was a plot point of Inquisition and isn't a choice that is carried over here where it would be most relevant.
I must say....the story sounds pretty good, but a shame how they ignore the choices, maybe in the next game
To be fair, they said over and over that the HoF AND the Champion of Kirkwall/Gray Warden companion wouldn’t be in this game. This was back when the writers who created Dragon Age and Thedas were still working on Dreadwolf.
The original intent seemed to be that the FINAL resolution of the story, or at least the story of the group of characters we’ve played as and with, would have been wrapped up in 5.
But then BioWare fired all the original writers that were still employed there and they scrapped the story of Dreadwolf and shifted to what we got in Veilguard.
The story feels disconnected and clunky and rushed because it IS.
Dang dude I didn't know you were a challenge runner too lmao "Can I beat and analyze DAV without losing my will to live"
30:20 The golden city not being the seat of the maker is the worst kept secret in all the games up till now. It was all but stated by the developer to be Arlathan shunted to the fade. It's also one of the few things in the Dragon Age series that is extremely stupid since there is evidence Everywhere and I mean Everywhere that Arlathan is the Golden city. But the world acts as if its some insane leap in logic.
It was ridiculous that they didn't have the maker be an actual entity. That would've made "the secret" that really isn't a secret have more bite to it. A better secret is if we found out the maker was around since the time of the elves and titans but was completely neutral during the war, or better yet, he be the one pulling the strings between elves and titans causing them to kill each other so he can amass more power without starting a war.
The Golden City has existed almost 2000 years before the fall of Arlathan.
@@kostuchan4418 No LOL. Also Arlathan didn't fall it was a floating city and it disappeared one day. It didn't crash, there are no ruins of it, poof gone.
@@kostuchan4418 state the codex page, not reddit's nonsense.
State the Codex page!
I spent almost a year going through all the games collecting all the codex pages on The Blight, Evanuris, Old Gods, Fade, Black City, Arlathan, and Veil. For a write-up on how they were all connected.
Outside of estimations of years or “it happened at the middle of the first era” type logging. There is no confirmation date on the first time the black city was seen and when Arlathan disappeared. Also, outside of comments on reddit or rumors in games I have found no actual timeline showing that the black city existed before Arlathan disappeared. Some monks in a side corner claiming “the black city has existed forever” means nothing when you understand he is preaching his religion not history. The only timeline we have 100% fact on is black city was raided post the disappearance of Arlathan.
Even after so many years and having an example on how to do the final mission good, they still failed, all your choices and hard work have literally no meaning because they wanted for you player character to have regrets lol. Retconned literally whole series and in the end implying that next game will be on the different place entirely, why would you call it a dragon age, if you butchered everything that made this world, thank God I did not buy this. I wish we could all pretend that this game does not exist. Thank you for your work
that and bioware are well known for their ability to go to a entirely new... galaxy.. and have the storyline be just as deep and impactful as the previous games... (looks over awkwardly at andromeda)... I have no idea whos plan this was but its a bad plan..
10:43 THAT IS NOT MY DORIAN
fr lol, i had to pause to take that one in
THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I SAID!!!
I did not even realize that was the same guy wtf
Dorian developed an ice habit and never stopped.
Felt the same way about Harding
First: I'm sorry you had to do this. Second: Thank you FOR doing this so I can further justify my reason to avoid this "game" like the plague.
Exactly. I wanted to see the story but I hated playing it lol
@@snowranger19that’s called being a hypocrite. Either like it or don’t.
I can’t believe I’m sitting here watching a story recap of a dragon age game instead of playing it.
Written by Tommy Wiseau
Well this video was interesting.
It confirms for me that they should have kept the name "dreadwolf"
The whole veil breaking thing seems like a straight rehash of inquisition, but man, that true ending stuff and lore dump with solas and the elves and golden palace, thats pretty cool.
The varric twist being the same as the mgs5 paz reveal is, eh, but sounds like it works a bit better here, still sucks but given it was solas who did it and that matters narrative wise, it sounds well done from the video anyway. Also the party being able to die and stuff, and one being straight forced to die is unexpected.
However, I am glad i spent 40 minutes rather than dozens of hours or however long it took. Given the lore stuff seemed mostly finale based. Wasn't a fan of the full action game shift, inquisition was a nice upgrade to origin IMO.
Then you have the overall writing quality, it just screamed "modern" which, i don't want in an old timey pre gunpowder fantasy world with high magic...the pixar/disneyfication bit seemed so over the top, it probably would have soured any cool lore dumps after hours of hearing it. Also wtf was with all those frumpy/short elves? Thats what dwarves are for.
It really does seem like there was a good foundation, then the lead guy left, the project was thrown to the 'new age' types and we got a lot of bad writing with tidbits of goodness.
Shame really.
Slight nitpick: the setting isn't pre-gunpowder, but the gunpowder is faction locked. The technology level otherwise is also more likely 17. or 18. Century.
First game I just watched the story video of without playing
One simple addition they could've made to make it more like Dao would've been letting us play the backstory of how rook meets varrick like how Dao let you play your origin and how you met Duncan.
Nah that's too much for the current Bioware I mean look at this game bruh. This is not Dragon Age anymore, just identifies as Dragon Age.
What godawful decisions BioWare has made with the Dragon Age lore. The origin of the Blight, the Golden City, the Old Gods … all of it is just the laziest bullshit imaginable.
I refuse to acknowledge Veilguard as a true Dragon Age sequel. For me, this is just shitty fan fiction, and the DA series ended with Inquisition.
Ironically that's how these "writers" got their start, bad Tumblr fanfiction. Sadly their writing never improved.
And we know who wrote this fanfic! Varric's rival from DAI. 😅 Explains Varric stupid death: no one in the team ever talks to Rook about Varric. Even Inquisitor doesn't mention Varric's absence... No one who should care ever really cares.
Why?
Bad fanfiction of Varric's rival!
Everything you just said, the blight, the golden city, and the old gods have been hinted at and foreshadowed since origins.
@@sveipr The Old Gods were hinted at being totally alien to Thedas, or at least having no connection to the elves. Ditto the Black City. There was a slight parallel between the Blight and the corruption within the Stone, but it was vague at best.
@@healsallwoundsPeople were theorizing the Evanuris and Old Gods were connected if not the same since Origins. For example the fact they have the exact same number and mirroring aspects. Silence/secrets, Hearth/Fire, Sun/Night, etc. Not to mention the myths of both being sealed away into the fade, being sealed in the same place, the fact that an Eluvian mirror was tainted with the blight which shouldn't be possible, the myths of the Evlen God Andruil crafting a dark armor that makes her powerful yet insane. I wonder if there is any dark dorce that makes people insane yet powerful?
Just because you didn't see the signs doesn't mean they didn't exist.
I hate this game's dialogue and I hate EA Bioware for everything they've done to DA but I can't understand why some people Dislikes THIS video too. This is a well done video explaining the things that happened, nothing more. Don't prove to those assholes that we're just trolls who hates for the sake of hating.
Because a ton of the people _are_ trolls who just hate to hate. Sorry, but that's just how it is. Maybe some are different, maybe you're different, but by and large people are just looking for things to rage at.
How are the Archdemons not Old Gods and just pet High Dragons basically? Literally one ending in Origins was using the unborn child of Morrigan to trap the Old God in a new lifeform, which wouldnt be corrupted by the DarkSpawn. This game really did fuck everything up, jesus.
Good, now I don't have to play this game :)
Yeah I really didn't want to give EA my money.
I gonna wait until a sale, but I guess we're here now lol
This is not an RPG, it's a mediocre linear action/adventure game. The very little RPG elements have zero influence on the story. All compagnons are the same, they cannot even die during combat. The worst of all is the writing and the stupid dialogues during cutscenes. This is not Dragon Age, it's God of War for Disney fans. Maybe 12-18 years old teens will like this game. I wasted 70 hours on this crap. The positive: the game is gorgeous on PC, it's a joy for the eye and the final part (2-3 hours) is phenomenal (compared to the rest of the game). My advice: grab it on a sale and play it if you really don't have anything else to do.
After all these years we are back to fighting darkspawn as a major antagonist. I don’t count corephius as his minions were mostly human
Somebody has kidnapped this mans family, and they clearly demanded ransom via high quality video essays.
Another banger video Gingy, and with blistering speed. You're work is impressive just dont burn out brother. You're welfare matters to us too. ❤
Solas screaming like some Weeb Villian as he gets banished, will never not irritate me. It’s Kai Leng 2 Electric Boogaloo. Except they butcher a well-established character to do it.
Too many people liked Solas and were excited to see him be a main character, so they sent him to the shadow realm as punishment.
@@65firered Current Bioware was too scared to do a High Magic Fantasy game.
@@MusicaX79 They want to turn Dragon Age into something else. We saw this with movies as well, Rings of Power for example. People who hate the souce material and the audience and purposely attempt to rewrite franchises into their own vision.
You mean he wasn't already butchered to begin with the last we seen him in Inquisition?
@@gavincarothers595 The ending of Inquisition, especially in Trespasser showed that his character was the same. He acknowledged that the current world has value, he also states that he knows he is going to kill millions. He's not happy about any of this, he's not closing his eyes to it either, and most importantly he's not making excuses. It’s why he doesn’t tell the Inquisitor ‘gear up I’m going to kill you and everyone’ he says ‘prepare for the apocalypse that is to come because I know you can handle the consequences.’
In his mind he went from heaven to earth, while it's not hell it's still a vastly different landscape than heaven. He sees value in this earth, but it’s not where he believes he belongs. Listening to him calmly explain everything even when he has been wronged by the inquisitor shows an extreme control over his emotions. For him to go from that to him screaming “Your nothing but a mortal.” Is not only jarring but absurd.
I want to point out:
“Your nothing but a Mortal.” - Solas DA Veilguard
“Your nothing but a mere Human.” - Ribbons Almark Gundam 00
I wonder where they got the dialog from? I’m not joking here his character change and the way he talks is almost parody of Ribbons Almark, it’s cringe.
Why would the Qunari army help the Elven gods? They virulently hate anything related to magic.
Oh, right. If they didn't do it this way they would have been forced to go back to the series' old representation of the Qunari as alien, weird hyper-collectivist people involved in a really messy religious war with the Tevinter, and that's just too unpleasant of a depiction for modern gaming standards I guess. Everyone has to be fundamentally nice, and the poor Qunaris and Tevinter don't have any issues with each others, it's just those darn army men and a few bad guys.
Why are the Venatori following Elven gods too for that matter? The Venatori want to bring back the old Tevinter Empire, they wouldn't care for the gods of their slave race that they plan to use only for blood sacrifices. Those people should be virulently opposed to anything dealing with Elves trying to raise their heads, divine or not.
And what even are Veil Jumpers? Weird Dalish? Elven knowledge from the ancient times was supposed to be almost entirely gone and these people are just hopping between ancient technology?
Oh, the Antaam, the body of the Qun, just comes out saying "the Qun is garbage"?
Qunaris breathe fire now?
Orzammar, the last remaining Dwarf city (we forgot about that other one anyway), all of Ferelden and the Free Marches are destroyed by lolwut Blights?
The entire retcon with the Archdemons is just... I'm not even gonna comment on it.
And they're setting up Dragon Age's own version of Andromeda too? 'Cause that went so well?
As for the positives... I guess this necromancer Emmerich guy looks pretty cool, he seems the only actually likable companion in this whole thing.
I can't believe it. They destroyed everything. There's nothing left. You can vaguely see the original backstory they made for the world, and maybe that was salvageable, but everything else...
This game is so bad it made Trump win again, and I'm not sure anymore if that's a joke or the partial truth.
I want Bioware to go bankrupt so they can never make another game again, and these devs get blacklisted and go working in retail. This is genuinely awful. The forced gender talks may be the best part of the game, because at least they're funny.
To quote Hercules, "DISAPPOINTED!" Thank you for saving me from wasting money on trash.
I kinda get why they decided to take out the games previous choices and decide to make a canon. After 3 games and earth effecting events like mages or templars in inquisition or Morgan or inquisitor go into the knowledge pool. But it’s kinda weird that we don’t know if Morgan’s has a son or not
"Make sure to beat the game first"
no one watching this is beating this game
They did Dorian dirty😭, He looks nothing like the Inquisition version. I can overlook many things about the game but not that, and also why we couldn't just play as the OG Inquisitor. I see no valid reason why they introduced a new main character instead of the OG. You're telling me that my Inquisitor gave a badass speech at the end of Trespasser about how the Inquisition is now disband and how he and his team are going after Solas, only for him to go fight dark-spawns as a side character somewhere while Varic, Harding and a random dude name Rook take center stage??
If you recall, the Inquisitor also gave a badass speech about how they had to find someone Solas does not know and can't predict. Inquisitor was never meant to be the protagonist in the fourth game.
@@easternlights3155 I actually don't recall that. Nevertheless, it would be more, shall I say "impactful" if we carried over directly from the last game as the original team. Introducing a new character as the main and making side characters integral points kinda feels...cheap or forced..if that makes sense. It be tolerable if they at least gave the role Varic plays now to the Inquisitor, him leading and advising "Rook" but not dead as Varic is so that the romance sacrifice scene in the end would be possible. Granted they would have to rework the questline since Varic/Inquisitor wouldn't be dead or if dead, appear in spirit form or something. But what's done is done and I can't do anything about it.
@@easternlights3155 except Solas goes on to tell Rook that he knows everything about him
@@KyleBrowser No dragon Age has carried over the previous team. Usually one returning character max. And the entire point of Trespasser specifically and arguably Inquisition is that the Inquisition _must_ end. Have the adventure then give up power and stand down.
What did you think the whole " They put away their swords" thing Mother Giselle was talking about meant. Or when the Divine wrote " The Left Hand should lay down her burden." That's why Trespasser ends with either the Inquisition pairing down to a skeleton crew to serve the divine as a sort of honor guard or just disbanding entirely. All that before the Inquisitor says they need to finds somebody new and stabs his dagger into a map of Tevinter.
@@Awaken_To_0 I understand your point, and I agree. Playing as the inquisitor might have been wishful thinking or a stretch on my part.. But I guess what I'm trying to say is that the way the new MC was introduced isn't as "smooth" as I wish it could have been, especially side-lining the inquisitor like that. As I stated in one of my comments, if they gave him the role that Varic plays in this with a few tweaks at the final mission it would have made an objectively "better" narrative in my opinion. It just feels weird seeing Varic and Harding take centre stage like that for me, idk why.. But I suppose given the other options, they were more flexible.
Sheeesh my boy Gingy has been in the lab day and night cooking up back to back to back BANGERS
So, Flemeth doesn’t make much sense, right? Morrigan essentially states that possessing Mythal’s soul does not make her immortal. So how did Flemeth manage to stay alive for so long? If the Flemeth we meet is indeed the same Flemeth from centuries ago, and if she inherited Mythal’s soul from previous vessels, then why is this Flemeth specifically immortal until Solas kills her? Isn’t this a pretty big retcon? Logically, Flemeth didn’t give Morrigan her consciousness or anything like that-just memories and a fragment of Mythal’s soul.
Or does this imply that the Flemeth we meet might actually be a distant descendant who remembers the life of her ancestor and simply continues the name “Flemeth”? It feels like either a significant oversight in writing or perhaps yet another retcon. I also HATE the reveal that Andraste was just one of Mythal’s vessels. Why did they have to strip away any nuance around whether Andrastianism has some credibility, even in its basic tenets?
Solas killed Flemeth who had been gathering power because “I WILL SEE HER AVENGED!” had not been idle, she just did her part in the shadows and gathered what she could. Whatever power she had, and potentially even Junes soul after it was removed from Kieran, were things Solas took to complete his plans. Morrigan therefore got even less of Mythal than her mother did.
@@BlackfangDragonExactly. Morrigan states that basically all she got were Mythal's memories.
Even aside from that Ageless isn't the same as immortal. Even Flemeth could and did die in Dragon Age Origins, hence the whole need for the ritual in Dragon Age 2. From 2 onwards the Flemeth we see is more like a clone that grew from a starfish's arm then the Witch of the wilds that saved the Warden.
We learn, all the way back in Origins via Morrigan's questline, that Flemeth has been keeping herself alive by transferring her essence into her daughters, i.e. Mythal entered Flemeth and was passed down to her daughters at which point the memories and personality of Flemeth seem to override that daughters identity, though we also learn from Flemeth that it's a choice she gives to her daughters, so that's how she lived for so long, it also leads to hilarity when you let Morrigan take the well of soul's power, because it makes her a slave to the elven gods, including her mother who she did everything in her power to escape.
Solas killing Mythal is because he needed the power to start the veil-sundering ritual he begins putting together in the last Inquisition DLC, and finally starts in Veilguard, though admittedly it's handled awkwardly as it's just a throwaway line in Veilguard when Solas is pissed off at you for screwing the plan up the first time.
Oh no why would you do this to yourself !
So that the rest of us wouldn't, just like Jesus did!
He's the hero we don't deserve, but the one we need now.
What hurts the most is how good this game could've been if the writing was better. The graphics look really good, some of the characters are pretty interesting, the ending involving Solas redeeming himself is actually really good, and the gameplay is fun at times.
It's like Mass Effect: Andromeda all over again. All the good things in the game are overshadowed by an awful story.
Great video but man does this all feel like a slap in the face to prior DA Lore. Sure, there were signs that what the modem age knew wasn't correct (esp. regarding Andraste & the Chantry), but these answers seem too... Derivative.
The secret "it was all the Illuminati" tease at the end didn't help anything either.
The Chantry continues to tell the story between its lines, perhaps even beyond what Solas knows. It just ever more obviously doesn't tell the whole story. Solas himself can entertain the idea that the Maker has worked through him (honest DAI banter with him), and the Fade is now written to reveal the occasional surprise miracle. The Chant was always a highly politically motivated and highly amended theology, but its never been disregarded as trash lore. Its just a wink from writers about the concept of religions providing an interesting and abstracted history, but not necessarily absolute concrete truth.
Everyone's 'disproven' in Dragon Age. The Qun is set for future dismantling. Tevinter has had its second giant shock. The elves' case is thrown wide open. But they're all going to still have a role to play for the future. Elves aren't going to sit on their hands. Ideally, we'll have elves fracture into trying to salvage something of the Evanuris (room to still have stories like the theory of Sera connection with Andruil), or turn away from them even more entirely than the typical city elf, or be closer to Veil Jumpers and focus on constructing a new version of Elvenhan. Tevinter may be in for healing, but it also may be in for civil war due to a still entrenched enough owner class. The Chantry is only not immune to this tumult.
This wasn't a game for mystery, just as DA2 arguably wasn't. They chose the name 'Rook' for a reason. Powerful, striving, but generally just moving forward. We got our big splashes and it'd be up to the next game to elaborate on how even our new assumptions aren't quite right, or may even be entirely wrong.
It's crazy that the bad ending sounds like the best ending imo
28:00 bro the writers did solas dirty in this game, also how is varric narrating the story if he died?
Because PLOT TWIST
@@65firered Its just the plot of his steamy new romance book.
@@OhCheez I can see a woman who's red hot blushing angry looking face in the back of the room called Cassandra.
He is narrating from Fade. It is stated by multiple in-games sources that souls / spirits in Fade can look at the events that happen in Thedas.
It/he is a hallucination
Man, these characters look goofy AF. It's like a children's cartoon of a fantasy story.
And as I understand it, the plot and dialogue is pretty much on that level too...
Videos like this are a service to us all. It lets us have all the disappointment, but saving us $60 and dozens of hours to we would normally take to reach it.
Nice work on the video, sadly the game is "missed" the potential, to become a true dragopn age succesor...
"Flowers for Elgar'nan"
B|
This game could’ve been great if they didn’t restart production 3 times over and delete player choices
So Solas is basically the universe's biggest fuckup
This whole thing makes me angry. You can see the skeleton, the early draft that most likely came from early development, back when it was called Dreadwolf.
With the right minds writing the script, and without the hijacking of it all, this could've been an amazing finale to the serie, or at the very least, a great sequel.
But no, instead we get generic villains, modern day politics and dialog written by and for a 6 year old.
Damn shame.
the story of this game is wild.. and the ending trope of "ahahaha we were secretly playing everyone from the start "twirls evil moustasche" is so bad.. I hope they retcon varrics death or find a way to bring him back alive. cause honestly having them destroy bianca at the start of the game like its nothing and kill varric is basically doing a star wars.. with luke throwing away his lightsaber and han getting killed.. it just shits on everything that people liked about the franchise..
The problem is they've written themselves into a hole now and i dont know how they will recover without some major retcons.. because they've basically just killed off all the main cast or those that are still alive are either lost or preoccupied. is this really gonna be the first time in DA that the MC comes back for a sequel as a playable character? cause thats kinda the only way this story can move forward..
I appreciate the video, I just don’t have time to play long games anymore. You do the best job at filling that void by far.
The most important aspects of this game's story are found in Taash's journal.
Yeah real special too..🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I was gonna play this game when it went on sale, but I can't pass up a Gingy video 😂😂
I fucking LOVE female dwarves in all games and this one is really well designed. So I avoid playing the game to learn she's written like shit.
Thank you for this video, i tried to finish this game but even as a gift i couldn't go past 20 hours because of the god awful dialogues and characters.
Edit : The final act of the game seems to be LEAGUES above of the other arcs, what a waist of potential.
I played 15 hours then uninstalled and now I'm here. I always finish the games I start but this time I couldn't, was bored out of my mind.
Okay this was unexpected glad to see another gingy video as well
I hate this game for what it did to my favorite created game universe.
Love your videos and you should do the lost planet series.
Thank you, and bless you sir for the slog you’ve been through to make this.
Not even Gingy can make this story interesting
Thank you for making this video 👏🏾 I don't want to play this game, but as a fan of DA, I didn't want to miss out on the story
Nice, you’ve got perfect timing! I just ran out of stuff to (re)watch when the notification for this upload popped up ❤
Gingy this IS the 3rd Video in such short time. Why do you spoil US this much 😢 pls never Stop
Sounds like dragon ages version of World of Warcrafts shadowlands expansion. Glad i watched this. Also hate the art direction. Big dragon age fan, but I'll pass.
jooo, my Man is pumpin Content, noice.
This did a better job of explaining the story than the actual game did. It's not that it's complex, but it's not told well/isn't always engaging IMO
The resisilience it took to actually finish this game is incredible I salute you sir.
Man I can't believe how far dragon age has come I got it for the 360 for like 5$ used at GameStop and loved it but haven't finished any of them shame on me
I was really trying to push through the game because I heard at least the ending was ok but I can't thank you for this 😅
i wonder what all this would’ve looked like if they had kept it as a live-service multiplayer game
Maybe he isn't controlled as much by the demon as usual...out of spite?
Damn. I see what SkillUp was talking about, the final mission looked cool as shit. Where was that for the _rest_ of the game?!
Press F To Pay Respects to my boy who had to play this dogshite game.
My man said Make sure you play the game first before you watch this me coming to this video specifically to not play the game lol love your videos still my G
I was strategic to get the best ending. No one died but Harding and ended with an act of love. Had a great time with the game. Will definitely do another playthru for a different ending.
The Post Credit scene feels like them trying to plant seeds for more in this universe, given...well we just DEALT with the big threats. There will never be another capital B Blight in this world, there's no more archdemons, and as stated in this game, before this started, the powers that be were finally winning against the random blight, even retaking parts of the Deep Roads.
Heck, the Golden Ending is, according to the devs, with an altered line for whatever city was sacrificed, to be implying that the blight is now fully contained, and the bits of it out in the world, without a connection to the core of it inside the Black City, is dying off.
That said, this is the same dev post that told us that the post credit scene WASN'T supposed to be implying that this group was behind all those events...despite, you know, that being the POINT of the scene.
I do like that they finally explained the some of the deeper lore. Dwarves descending from Titans, The Golden City and Fantasy-Christianity being a lie, all interesting. Tacking on that bit about *"manipulation"* though is pretty lazy. Literally yanked that one right from Marvel.
I will say this, they/them (Bellara) could be easily replaced by Merrill (an actual good and established character.
HoF could appear instead of the inquisitior, with character creation right before meeting him (like Hawke)
This game is such a letdown not because it's bad (well it is) but mostly because it takes a dump on a 3 games legacy with beloved characters and CHOICES you made.
They had so many opportunities to bring back old characters to this game because literally everyone should be going to tevinter because the end of the world.
Except it’s been 20 years since Origins, meaning that even if the HoF was alive, they’d be in the Deep Roads answering The Calling. Not to mention, The Inquisitor appears due to their connection with Solas and, through him, the Elven Gods, as well as their experience with the Venatori. Furthermore, it’s possible for the HoF to die in Origins by killing the Archdemon without Morrigan’s ritual.
Look, I know that this game wasn’t great and a lot of people were hoping for something different, but if you are going to criticize it, at least take the time to properly understand what you’re saying/asking for.
Damn. I liked how they tied DA 2 and 3 into Veilgurad and explaiend so much, but what the hell happened to the HoF and Morrigan's son!?
Damn dude that was fast!
"Its garbage, don't buy it" saves everyone a lot of time.
Don’t overwork yourself with the rapid-fire upload schedule, tho
Take care!
This story is wild and only addresses dwarf and elven lore. I can see how what the chantry follow could be false but to ignore Leilana dying and coming back to life with Andraste's ashes. There has to be some other power at play there. Also no mention of Morrigans child again!?! Like the insinuation was she was taken over from Flemeth and she was rasing another child for her body to encumber 🙄🙄🙄. Cool aspects but heavily flawed, while ignoring original reasons people were so hung up on this series, only to wrap up the lackluster DA2 lore and Inquisition. And the choices in the game to see whose character you dislike the most die??? Friggin kill em all, please. Whiny bunch. I thought Inquisitions good party pool became small.
The story of Flemeth that you recalled was told by Leliana not Morrigan
Tnx. Your sacrifice won't be forgotten😢
Thank you for making this. It was a struggle to watch, mainly because it sucked seeing Dragon Age fall off and the world I loved get turned into this. It's a game but not what Dragon age deserved.
great vid
Huh. I guess I have another reason to play it again. and unlock this hidden ending. Thanks for the video.
I knew this game looked like trash. Damn man. Why cant we get a good dragon age.
Coz we bigot, biased, craven trollies were afraid to stop that cult of the `Modern Audience´ ? 🤣
This...this genuinely hurts. Ten years we've been waiting. And we get this. This soulless patchjob identity crisis. They retcon the lore in ways that don't make sense, they rip apart established events and tell you that your choices -in a series whose claim to fame was in how your choices affected the world- don't matter, just hold on the rail and 'enjoy' the rigidly tracked ride. I feel like how solas must have felt having to help Wisdom die in Inquisition, or how Alastor must have felt waking up to find he and the Warden were the last ones left in Fereldon. Except those tragedies fit in the established world like a tailor made bespoke suit. This feels like something off the rack at walmart. I mean yeah it follows the barebones basics of a story but it certainly doesn't fit or look as the mannequins wear it.
So.... when did Varric dye his hair black?
I was very curious about the story of the companions, but I understood why I didn't want to go into the subject in the video, anyway, very good video, thank you for being so quick to send it.
god that game is visually loud, if that makes sense
gingus kahn conquering one story at a time...thank you chief
So the endings are Sola goes into the fade, Solas goes into the fade with the inquisitor and Solas goes into the fade with you?
…Featuring the super secret squirrel organization who was behind everything all along?
So not only is this game ass, is makes every game prior to it mean completely nothing?!!
The biggest crime was the death of Varric. I'm surprised he wasn't beaten to death with a putter.
Wait, I think there is a mistake here.
Blight is not necessarily a product of the titans.
We discover that Red lyrium is "enraged lyrium" in the game (Harding missions), not blighted.
It is likely that the "executors" blighted the enraged titans, fooling the elves. (Solas among the others).
So we have "enraged lyrium" and "blighted lyrium". Two different things.
Even though so many people criticize this game I still wants to try it because so many people with so many opinions, even my friends who never played any of the dragon age games tried veilguard and they actually enjoyed it 🤔, so that's why despite veilguard goods and bads I still wants to give it a try,oh and also put Solas into the ground 👿.
I haven't finished the game. Gonna save this for when I do.
The characters dont even look like the same people anymore?!
SPOILER ALERT
The ending is the end of the franchise itself.
I have never seen a post game teaser for extra content undermine the story so much. They managed to tie up the mysetry of the vale and the elven gods/maker perfectly. Then they fucked it all up.
This game reminds me why I love FromSoft so much