Oklahoma Bible mandate illegal and ‘revulsive’: Superintendent | Vargas Reports

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  • @brotherbrooklyn3759
    @brotherbrooklyn3759 2 месяца назад +20

    So this is what we've become... I am totally okay with religion being taught at home, in church, or even private study groups. But this sounds absolutely like you're trying to force the Bible on somebody.

    • @MatuzaMortgages
      @MatuzaMortgages 2 месяца назад

      Kinda like the trans and gender stuff, right?

    • @brotherbrooklyn3759
      @brotherbrooklyn3759 2 месяца назад +2

      @@MatuzaMortgages actually yeah. My other issue with this is, how do you have random teachers in schools teach something that usually somebody should have to go to some sort of seminary or have a theology degree of sorts to teach?

    • @SamCrotty
      @SamCrotty 2 месяца назад

      @@brotherbrooklyn3759 I liked his comment about Math.

    • @DoppelgangerShockwave
      @DoppelgangerShockwave 2 месяца назад

      You took the words right out of my mouth. There is a separation of church and state. Keep religion to the churches, homes, and private schools that are funded and orchestrated by the Christian faith themselves. Public schools are for everyone, not just Christians.

    • @MicahRachelle
      @MicahRachelle 2 месяца назад

      I can't believe that he said that he, as a Christian man, thinks that using the Bible as a tool of teaching in classrooms is revulsive.😮‍💨 He is NOT a follower of Christ if he is going to say things like that. The Bible is literally supposed to be a tool of teaching. There are ways to teach with it that don't infringe upon the religious freedoms of students. Schools often hang inspirational quotes up where the students can see them. Historical quotes are often desplayed as well. Why is this educator making a stink about this? Instead of sitting around and complaining that the mandate is stupid and unconstitutional, he could have found a way to incorporate it into his school in a wise and constitutionally sound way.🤔 For example, why not hang up verses like this on the chalkboard in a math class?
      James 1:4
      "But let patience have her perfect work, that ye may be perfect and entire, wanting nothing."
      Proverbs 1:5
      "A wise man will hear, and will increase learning; and a man of understanding shall attain unto wise counsels."
      2 Corinthians 4:8
      "We are perplexed, but not in despair."
      These verses are very applicable to the experience of studying math. The fact of the matter is, it would be wrong to force non-Christians to open up the Bible and read it the way Christians do. We acknowledge it as the word of God and study it with reverence. People of other faiths won't feel the same way about the Bible when they read it. However, the Bible has passages that are not only relevant but helpful to children of all walks of life. There's no reason to spurn the idea of exposing kids to verses such as the ones I've shared.❤

  • @Idevaughan530
    @Idevaughan530 Месяц назад +6

    Explains why Oklahoma is in the bottom 5 in terms of education

  • @cecillebarone9252
    @cecillebarone9252 2 месяца назад +6

    There are faiths other than judeo christian in this country

  • @ericreid8111
    @ericreid8111 2 месяца назад +4

    Im a Christian but public funds cannot have religious use.

  • @vipepeo
    @vipepeo 2 месяца назад +6

    I've already sent a opt-out to my kids Oklahoma school as well as a demand to keep Ryan Walters away from my children.

  • @Thinkbeforeyoutype
    @Thinkbeforeyoutype 2 месяца назад +6

    Mandating the Bible in schools where portions of the students and staff think its fiction and don't believe in it or its stories is SO FRIGGIN WEIRD!

    • @MatuzaMortgages
      @MatuzaMortgages 2 месяца назад

      So the gender and trans stuff

    • @Thinkbeforeyoutype
      @Thinkbeforeyoutype 2 месяца назад +7

      @@MatuzaMortgages regardless of what your opinion is about trans people, the facts of the matter are trans people physically exist. You can sit down with them, see them, hear them, feel them, talk with them, and if you choose to try, understand them. They are tangible and real without question- regardless of how you feel about them.
      Now as far as Christianity goes, a great deal of the world thinks the Bible is fake, thinks Jesus never existed and think it's all made up and fairy fables. And no disrespect to your faith but you cannot give a tangible example for anyone to prove that your belief is actual and factual because faith and belief is not actual and factual but simply an opinion on something non-visible. There's a big difference.
      You can disagree with trans but they still are reality and exist. You can disagree on the Bible and literally argue that what it teaches is fake because there's no physical proof to say otherwise- just mental belief.

    • @SamCrotty
      @SamCrotty 2 месяца назад

      Oklahoma has had the Bible in its schools for a few years now.

    • @MicahRachelle
      @MicahRachelle 2 месяца назад

      I can't believe that he said that he, as a Christian man, thinks that using the Bible as a tool of teaching in classrooms is revulsive.😮‍💨 He is NOT a follower of Christ if he is going to say things like that. The Bible is literally supposed to be a tool of teaching. There are ways to teach with it that don't infringe upon the religious freedoms of students. Schools often hang inspirational quotes up where the students can see them. Historical quotes are often desplayed as well. Why is this educator making a stink about this? Instead of sitting around and complaining that the mandate is stupid and unconstitutional, he could have found a way to incorporate it into his school in a wise and constitutionally sound way.🤔 For example, why not hang up verses like this on the chalkboard in a math class?
      James 1:4
      "But let patience have her perfect work, that ye may be perfect and entire, wanting nothing."
      Proverbs 1:5
      "A wise man will hear, and will increase learning; and a man of understanding shall attain unto wise counsels."
      2 Corinthians 4:8
      "We are perplexed, but not in despair."
      These verses are very applicable to the experience of studying math. The fact of the matter is, it would be wrong to force non-Christians to open up the Bible and read it the way Christians do. We acknowledge it as the word of God and study it with reverence. People of other faiths won't feel the same way about the Bible when they read it. However, the Bible has passages that are not only relevant but helpful to children of all walks of life. There's no reason to spurn the idea of exposing kids to verses such as the ones I've shared.❤

    • @Thinkbeforeyoutype
      @Thinkbeforeyoutype 2 месяца назад +3

      @@MicahRachelle a good portion of people don't believe in any of that and think that it's false and ridiculous- regardless of what you believe. It shouldn't be used for universal, community learning facility funded by non-believers tax dollars. It's not a belief of the universal people and for those who want it in school, go to religious based schools- period.

  • @2steaksandwiches665
    @2steaksandwiches665 2 месяца назад +3

    Perhaps Oklahoma should work on more important things. Look at their rankings in terms of important metrics. It’s not great.

  • @Thewhippedhippie
    @Thewhippedhippie 2 месяца назад +3

    Genx was taught acceptance in the 70’s. All went great till mass media showed up. Growing pains in the Anxiety Age.

  • @AlecO-xh8rt
    @AlecO-xh8rt 2 месяца назад +2

    So classrooms are hotel rooms now?

  • @juliehudson6539
    @juliehudson6539 2 месяца назад

    So which parts of the Bible does the superintendent want teachers to teach

  • @maryreed4534
    @maryreed4534 Месяц назад +1

    Just another grifter using God to get his filthy hands on cash.

  • @Flatthetire
    @Flatthetire 22 дня назад

    😃WOW, Oklahoma gives 3 million $ to Trump,at taxpayer expense and kisses right-wing Christian ass at the same time 😮

  • @dhickey5919
    @dhickey5919 2 месяца назад +1

    I'm sure the founders would have had no idea what the United States would look like today but I'm sure they would say our desire to be free has taken a questionable turn somewhere. This is far from the worst idea in the era of school shootings and Onlyfools graphic sites considered acceptable behavior. Children are the most precious thing in our society. If you don't like this idea, then present something better to protect children.

    • @SamCrotty
      @SamCrotty 2 месяца назад

      They might also be surprised by Dinosaurs, and Roads, the ability to communicate with the other side of the world

    • @AqworldsMew11
      @AqworldsMew11 16 дней назад

      But an AR ban is out of the question, right?

  • @MicahRachelle
    @MicahRachelle 2 месяца назад +2

    I can't believe that he said that he, as a Christian man, thinks that using the Bible as a tool of teaching in classrooms is revulsive.😮‍💨 He is NOT a follower of Christ if he is going to say things like that. The Bible is literally supposed to be a tool of teaching. There are ways to teach with it that don't infringe upon the religious freedoms of students. Schools often hang inspirational quotes up where the students can see them. Historical quotes are often desplayed as well. Why is this educator making a stink about this? Instead of sitting around and complaining that the mandate is stupid and unconstitutional, he could have found a way to incorporate it into his school in a wise and constitutionally sound way.🤔 For example, why not hang up verses like this on the chalkboard in a math class?
    James 1:4
    "But let patience have her perfect work, that ye may be perfect and entire, wanting nothing."
    Proverbs 1:5
    "A wise man will hear, and will increase learning; and a man of understanding shall attain unto wise counsels."
    2 Corinthians 4:8
    "We are perplexed, but not in despair."
    These verses are very applicable to the experience of studying math. The fact of the matter is, it would be wrong to force non-Christians to open up the Bible and read it the way Christians do. We acknowledge it as the word of God and study it with reverence. People of other faiths won't feel the same way about the Bible when they read it. However, the Bible has passages that are not only relevant but helpful to children of all walks of life. There's no reason to spurn the idea of exposing kids to verses such as the ones I've shared.❤

    • @AqworldsMew11
      @AqworldsMew11 16 дней назад

      Cry about it honestly there's TONS of con-tradictions in conservative thinking in the bible anyway. Oh boo hoo someone agrees that religion should be between you God and MAYBE your pastor, not your school teachers that may not even believe. 😂😂😂

  • @Studentofjesuschrist
    @Studentofjesuschrist 2 месяца назад +4

    Bible is needed in schools.
    If you can teach pride( sexual immorality)
    Then teach the Bible and allow kids to make a sound choice. Knowing right from wrong.

  • @MatuzaMortgages
    @MatuzaMortgages 2 месяца назад +5

    Revulsive.......that distasteful? Really? I think that's a bit over the top. If you've got all the gas and trans stuff, how could the Bible be revulsive?

    • @theprinceofthebadlands5204
      @theprinceofthebadlands5204 Месяц назад

      Because trans people exist and isn't... you know... UNCONSTITUTIONAL

    • @AqworldsMew11
      @AqworldsMew11 16 дней назад

      Mortgage your brain because you aren't using it

  • @neilrowan9800
    @neilrowan9800 2 месяца назад +1

    Guest is so wrong

    • @RichRichGil09
      @RichRichGil09 2 месяца назад +3

      Guest is so RIGHT actually

  • @sophia8405
    @sophia8405 2 месяца назад

    Beautiful

  • @ronp-eb9bh
    @ronp-eb9bh Месяц назад

    The superintendent has a great idea, but the implementation part (i.e., forcing) may not be the best method. Yes, public schools should have elective courses based upon the predominant faiths in that area (with input from parents). Yes, public schools should designate a place and allow students time during the school day for prayer and faith based study (albeit Christian, Muslim, Jewish, etc..). Faith should not be forced in schools, but freely allowed in schools, so that each child can express themselves safely thru their individual values. The anti-God crowd, of course, would like for faith to not appear in any parts of public schools, but faith is inherently a part of American and global society. To say that the Bible, Koran, or Torah are revulsive is such an unlearned stance. What's more shocking is this statement came out of the mouth of a self-proclaimed, so-called Christian.

    • @apersonontheinternet8354
      @apersonontheinternet8354 9 дней назад

      Religion shouldn't be in public school, period. It violates the separation of church and state.

  • @kimscarbrough2870
    @kimscarbrough2870 2 месяца назад +2

    The Bible can be implemented in all aspects period....and one NEEDS to UNDERSTAND the REASON for separation of Church and State...oh and BTW the Bible was taught in schools before they decided to take them out...❤🎉

    • @RichRichGil09
      @RichRichGil09 2 месяца назад +1

      It should be taught in history, not in math or science.

    • @SamCrotty
      @SamCrotty 2 месяца назад

      I hope Deuteronomy 22:9-11 Taught! but I am in a farming state.

  • @oma-opamings4564
    @oma-opamings4564 Месяц назад

    Gods warning for those who may decide to alter the Bible. These two verses are written at the end of Chapter 22 in the book Revelations.
    18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book.
    19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.