This is great news. I am at exactly the same point in my journey with my 1978 Endeavour 32. I agree, it is a solid, very livable boat, worthy of a full refit. I am developing more of a rolling, season-bridging refit schedule that I will do in the northern Chesapeake (at The Wharf at Handy's Point) in Worton Creek. I love your DIY tutorials and I really look forward to following your progress as you refit. For me, the more I am on my boat, the more solid and safe the boat feels, and the more of a "this is the boat" feeling I get. You know you have a good boat when you see another boat and say to yourself "i like my boat better". I say that often. Of course there are better boats that I covet, but I love mine. How are your thru-hulls and valves? Mine had original gate valves, so one of this years big projects was replacing all of the seized gate valves with Groco ball valves, and the corresponding hoses. Standing and running rigging, a few nav lights, batteries, bilge pump round out just a few others this year. Yea, btw - a previous episode, but, my water tank is the same set up as Ben's and yours. Weird design choice for sure. I would love some advice on the Manta and the roller. My boat doesn't have an anchor roller yet, but thats on the list, as well as a beefier anchor. Probably when I paint the deck and rebed - scheduled for fall '18 or spring '19. If i am pulling the headliner down to get to the deck fittings, I may as well rewire at the same time.....you've seen firsthand how this snowballs..LOL. You've probably found the Endeavour owners site and FB page, good stuff there. I want to use that aft pilot berth as a storage / nav table section. Still working that out in my head. I love the friendships you are developing with fellow RUclips Vlogers. I subscribe to many of the channels you mention. :) I started a channel, but haven't really discovered a niche that would make it unique in comparison to other existing sailing channels. I will be following you closely, fellow Endeavour refitters. Feel free to reach out, and Thanks! Peace
Did I like the video...yes I did. I think it's fantastic you've come to the realisation that 'Freebie' is a keeper. You'll now put more heart and soul into the resto knowing it'll be your world cruiser and you'll learn so much about your boat in the process. That knowledge cannot be underestimated. Well done on the trip so far, you assessed the risks, you made some effort to mitigate them and took it easy. Chapeau 👍
My brother and I are looking forward to getting a sailboat and circumnavigating eventually. Ive been binge watching your series so far and it gives a great insight on what to expect when getting a boat. Subscribed.
Good choice guys... get the boat on the hard, spend the money that’s required and make it your home. I’m just catching up on your videos, but I mentioned just what your doing in a previous video
This is a good decision. I like this boat and getting it sea worthy should be a great investment. That Mantus SCUBA gear could pay for itself in the long run. For a small fee, can help others in Marinas, clean props, rudders, water intakes. Looking forward to your trip. Stay Safe.
Learning the Lines Is the water in that Lock starting to drop yet? Watch the weather, we,'re going to have an early season. I was going to drop you an email but it was on a laptop that is no longer with us... If you have my email, how about just shooting a reply so I can.capture your email info again. TYYL. Bruce
Turnbuckles tend to collect salt and get hard to turn. Spraying them off with freshwater really helps, and if you spray, wait for them to dry (mostly) and then give them a spritz of lube (WD40 or whatever favorite you have) you will get MUCH easier adjustments. Thanks for your content - it's really enjoyable!
I am glad that you decided to keep this boat. A while down the road I suspect you will want a cat or a tri. I have mentioned this in the past, but I would love for you two to get a Samsung Gear 360 (
No mistake just a change in your overall plan. I wouldn't worry about motoring 70 miles IF you have faith in your motor! Should be a piece of cake! Looking forward to your refitting videos.
A little pic of the water coming out of the exhaust when the engine is warm would make me feel better. And, having a spare impeller. No matter how short the passage. You didn't talk about that. Anchorages are actually better, quieter (sometimes) and of course, usually free. Look at my sailing technology playlist, which is a place where you will find videos about things that a lot of RUclips Cruisers have had to deal with in their travels. I'm collecting them for myself also, hoping to join you eventually.
I sure would like to. While I'm on land I'm taking part of 14.300 net, trying to help, a relay every so often. The pacific sea fairers net is amazing. I'm trying to learn about AIS and cheaper ways to get it going, and everything I can think of that would help me. Trying to learn. How about you, any off shore for you yet ?
Hey, you guys are moving to the same yard as my boat. "Seminole" is 35' Tom colvin gaff cutter. I'll be out there probably sunday, for a week working on it if you want to say howdy.
Sometimes you have to do just what you have to do but when you have to get into situations like that do it as safely as possible and it would appear you are
You do what ya' gotta do. Nice compact dive gear. Looks a lot like the size of a fire fighter's SCBA. One recommendation. Unless you know that you yourself poured too much oil in the engine, a diesel that "makes oil" means fuel is leaking into the oil ... somewhere. Some fuel pumps are mechanically driven from the injector rack over the head or a push-rod riding a cam on the main or secondary shaft (depends on the motor make and model - I'm not sure a small Westerbeke even has a secondary output shaft). This is a good place for fuel to bypass seals and end up mixed into the oil. On a Westerbeke it's almost the only place this might happen. When you complete your trip check the oil level after it has a few minutes to settle. If it has increased *at all* , be prepared to replace a few parts while she dries her feet. A 70 mile trip with this condition is not a concern as long as the oil isn't too thinned out by the diesel fuel. If you know you did this yourself ... well then ... shame on you =D Fair weather and enjoy the cruise.
Nice! Keep in mind that the boat may not be sitting exactly level or similar to how it sits in the water and might give you a false reading. This may be a check better put off until back in the water.
Sounds like a good plan. You will get a lot more done on your boat in a good working yard. Looking forward to the project. The Little scuba system looks pretty usable but you might consider just improving your snorkel / freedive skills. Takes no additional equipment So you don't need to find a place to store that equipment and you don't need to worry about finding fills somewhere or worse, getting a compressor. With a little practice you can easily get down to scrub an 8 ft keel and remember most of your work is withing 3 ft of the surface with your snorkel on. Just my 2 cents.
Yea Bruce. That would be me. They are really great people. I got to visit them in Isla mujeres last month. If you look at their latest vid there is my ST on their chalkboard! It seems we all follow the same channels huh?
Hi guys. I love your enthusiasm. I’m not going to warn you about sailing off with no lifelines or ports in place but I will say this. I believe you said the boat is a Hunter. They are a fine but for coastal cruising, however, if you’re planning on extended off-shore passage making I would recommend a more robust make. Don’t take that to mean you shouldn’t refit the boat. You can do that, sail it locally, maybe even go to the keys where you have the opportunity to head for safe harbor should bad weather approach. It will afford you good experience for future more extended passages. I will also say, with the aforementioned in mind, be careful how much you spend on it. It’s easy to fall in love with a boat and get carried away with how much you spend on making her yours. Then, when the time comes to move up, you realize you will never get what you think the boat is worth. So, I guess the message is do your refit with caution and care. Remember, these boats were made cheaply so do only what you need to to make her safe and comfortable for your short term cruising goals. Save your money for a boat that is more qualified for extended voyaging, if that is your ultimate goal. In the meantime, have fun with her but keep your long term goal in mind and don’t break the bank on this boat. I hope I don’t sound like a killjoy. I don’t mean to. Just trying to help.
I totally understand and agree with you on this notion. I wouldn't take a Hunter offshore. However, our boat is an Endeavour 32, and while most wouldn't consider her a "bluewater" boat, I believe that properly outfitted she demonstrates the best qualities of a heavy displacement offshore cruiser.
A onboard air compressor for inflating rafts dinghies etc can also supply a diving regulator with a lot more than 20 minutes of air Just get a air hose long enough to reach the entire length of the boat
I keep a couple of old leather keytags in my tool box, to pad tool jaws if needed. If you have no leather scraps, a shoemaker usually does. or a craft store, or something cheap at a thrift store. The Mantius package is a nice package--but you can buy "pony bottles" in various sizes at any dive shop. Smaller or larger than what they offer, easy to set up something custom at the same or lower prices. It sounded like you were going to be trucked to the new yard?? It is landlocked??
Good advice on the leather keytags! I'll need to get me some of those. We like the mantus package and you're correct it is similar to a pony bottle. Yes the new yard is about a mile from the nearest waterway. The truck over is included in the haul out fee.
lol, been their and done that. What was going to be a few jobs on mine turned into a full nut & bolt restoration. Loads of time & money but like you I came to the conclusion that I will never need another boat so thought what the hell and went for it. It doesn't matter how much it costs if your not going to sell it for a long time. Imagine how much a new boat would cost at that size. Plus older hulls are made a lot better than modern equivelants Oh and unless your working on it full time and not doing jobs than you can double that time estimate at least.
Haha yeah the time estimate is probably too short but I don't mind pulling weeks staying at the boat and working on it if I have to. I'd like it done in under a year.
Big tip from me though once it's on the hard. Get it fully waterproof on deck before touching the insides. Otherwise a storm comes along and rips off your covers/temporary windows and it gets wet and buggers up what you've done. I left mine far too long with temporary windows and covers and they just get shredded by high winds etc. Went through 3 lots of tarpaulins. That & paint drips/splatter when your painting the outside ends up inside through the windows.
Yes this is going to be the first step. We're going to paint the deck first and with that rebed everything and replace the portlights. Then we'll work on the interior.
When adjusting your standing rigging the goal is to make sure your mast is straight. Look up the spar where your main sail slides go in the groove of the spar, that needs to be straight after you adjust uppers and lowers. Your backstay should be tightened up enough to put a slight bend towards the aft of the boat. But before you go to adjusting your rig make damn sure your chainplates and backstay are solidly anchored. Look carefully for wood rot on the bulkheads, that the bolts have not deterioated. Chainplates need rebedded from time to time as water will get past your chainplate covers and reek havoc to decks (softspots) and rotting / delamination in your bulkheads if a previous owner was lax at maintaining the boat.
Thanks for the advice. We're going to be pulling the mast while on the hard and rebedding and inspecting the chainplates as well as replacing the standing rigging. The chainplates are bolted directly to the hull.
16 thumbs down at 10,505 views. I am always at a loss to why on a video that covers all the bases about info and video it gets any thumbs down at all. Anyway in my opinion it was a good video. I actually liked the mantas plug. I think companies do a great job loaning stuff out in hopes of a sale. I agree it looked to be a very versatile set up to be able to use for what it was meant for. Lightweight so you can work but still have good quality so it lasts. I really think it was a great move and will give you much better access to being able to work on the boat and being able to live aboard at the same time. Great job and looking forward to the next video.
If your coming through Boca Grande Pass be careful. The current gets wicked fast through there. hopefully it's incoming when you get there. I sail out of St James city, south Pine Island (little south of Charlotte Harbor.) Let me know if you need any info about the area. There is a nice well protected anchorage just inside the pass, south at Cayo Costa, just off the Cayo Costa St park dock. It wont look like you can get in that harbor but deep draft sailboats do it all the time. Have fun. ~John
We actually have already completed the trip and we did go through there. The current was definitely pretty fast! We were motoring against what seemed like a 2 knot current and there were tons of fishing boats in the middle of the channel. Fun fun. lol.
JackiBlue Learning The Lines YUP... you also forgot to mention the huge sharks (large hammerheads) that also call BG Pass home, this time of year.... 😊😊
Not to mention the Bull Sharks - they have no absolutely no fear. Btw, the harbor i mentioned at Cayo Costa is called Pelican Bay. You can spend a nice quite night or 2 there at anchor and hike the island during the day.
Need to get some work done on my sailboat as well and am in the same area. What is the Marina you will be doing the DIY work in? They have no lift out?
tighten both sides equally and site up the mast to see if you have put a wave in it. Also do not over tighten you could pull them up through the hull or bend the mast.
Guys, the whole gestalt of being a professional mariner is one of risk management. There's a reason why 200 recreational boaters die for every professional. Where you can't eliminate risk, you manage it. That beig said, you exercised reasonable risk management with the passage. Could have done better, could have done a lot worse, and you had a nice time. You could have made the same passage in any open boat in the same manner, safely. The risk was managed. At some level, if you spend enough days at sea, things happen. Your level of training and experience, and the proper maintenance of your boat are the best mitigation tactics. You did fine.
The3 clothing or suit you had on while doing your bottom cleaning seems to be lighter than a wet suit? Can you tell me more about it ? Thank you Robert
Looking forward to this next year and your progress. Keep going...... $15k for a diy refit??? Maybe $50-75k. It would be great if you could share all your costs as you go along. Good luck. Sounds exciting.
We're keeping track of all the costs. Keep in mind we're doing all the work ourselves and have several sponsorships. It may cost more, but that's what I'm estimating.
Cover the port lights with cheap melamine 4x8 sheets , cut to size and duct taped. Open ports not good and it’s easy security. Good in the yard also and easy open and close. Just saying
I intend to learn to sail and then get a boat but I know nothing right now. I'm part blind, (legally blind 20_200) I've kayaked the entire Mississippi River and thru hiked the Appalachian trail and near 10,000 miles total. What's the best way to get an unpayed crew position? I figure donating time and labor in exchange for knowledge. Binging this entire series over the next few days... Recently unemployed due to the human malware that struck the planet, figure no time like the present to make a life change.
have u checked out the house boats in the England area ? gourgouse it is just grate and better than great.t underwater bedrooms and would need tug if transport for i wish we had them here in areas for America .man made island and hotel it is on utube.
I am happy for you that you have found a boat that works for you, congratulations! I am wondering how long it took you to clean the bottom of the hull...20mins with the Mantis seems like too little time. What are you thoughts? - Thank you for another excellent video :)
It took two bottles to do the bottom. I think next time I'll clean the waterline and as far as I can reach around the boat while snorkling then do the keel and lower portions with a bottle. Should only take one then.
More like a BiG change of plans then mistake. But hey click bait is fun. Have fun on the refit! I noticed you may be using kiwi grip on the deck. Just added some to the work boat and here's what I noticed. I used a big sponge brush to spread the material out and seemed to work good allowing me to control the thickness of the material. It flattens out as it dries at least it did it to me. So my grip wasn't as aggressive as when I first rolled it. Still works but if I had known that I would have been more aggressive on the rolling since I wanted that area pretty grippy. Go ahead and test it in a small area and see how it dries and looks. Also, like it says in the instructions remove the tape as soon as you finish rolling. I forgot a piece and it was a bitch to get off without tearing up a small section. Good luck!
Oi, estou gostando muito dos videos de vocês mas, nós gostaríamos de ver mais os trabalhos que estão sendo realizados do que ver voce falando diante da câmera. Apenas uma sugestão. São Paulo - Brasil.
Thanks. Also hope to store our old boat (Catalac 8M 1986 which is for sale) at the yard you are going to, so would like to hear how it works out for you there.
I don't understand all the "you are unsafe, blah blah, yadda yadda". It is for each individual to decide what they are willing to risk. You obviously thought about it and decided it was worth it. It isn't for anyone but you and Randy to have a say.
So Randi brings the food. I'd keep her around just for that! Ü Nice that you're aware of the safety aspect. I think where most safety guy/gays get all freaky is when sailors, or just people in general, ignore the safety issues and make statements like...oh..it's only 70 miles...what could possibly happen? HA! I see this happen often here in AZ when people hike. They think going on a short easy hike allows then to throw most of the safety we've all bean taught into the wind and not realizing being 2 miles from the trail head with a broken leg is the same as 12 miles. Anyway, kudos to you for putting the life lines back on and here's to a safe journey. BTW...what app are you using for your list? PEACE OUT! Ü
Silly boy, hookah system is the way to go. Try getting air in a tank where there's no filling stations. Scuba is for fun, hookah is for work on a sailboat. Shakes head and slaps leg. Lol
Why would'nt you recommend traveling on her own hull? No windows? Life lines? You know how many center consoles travel like that ? They dont even have port holes. They are wide open to the elements. Sailors make too big a deal about everything. If you are confident in the engine then you are "good to go". No need to apologize about your choice.
Obviously we're fine with what we did. It ended being an awesome passage, but a sailboat is a bit different from a powerboat in that it can't "run" from a storm that comes out of nowhere. That's the main reason I don't think what we did was necessarily "safe" albeit it was as safe as possible for us and we were willing to take the small amount of risk.
Thats why you needed a good weather window to travel. People make that same "big Bend" passage on the Gulf in 25 ft ranger tugs at 6 kts. All trawlers cant out run weather, but a good weather window is worth waiting for.
Oh yeah, we moved our boat out of titusville to fort pierce, then to Charleston where we now have shaft alignment problems. This pearson 365 is getting on my last nerve. Yall knock the work out, then head on up to the outter banks.
Outer banks would be awesome. So many people go Caribbean first so be may sail north first :) I'd love to go up the coast and cross over to Europe. All in time though that's pretty far away.
You did make a mistake......10 to 15 thousand? Ha!!! Try tripling that. Would you like to make a bet? I'm starting on my 4th refurb project and I can tell you I shop eBay, Craig's List and many different Marine Stores on a daily basis to find the best deals and it always cost more than you planned. I do everything as if I was building my forever boat so I have found there are lots of things that I can't do myself. Example: bought a sailboat with about 11 coats of bottom paint, could have spent a month sanding and scraping but found the 1,000 dollars for soda blasting was money well spent. Then there are the things you don't plan on....under those 11 coats of bottom paint I found 7 bolts throught the hull below the water line. Those had to be cut out and holes fiberglassed, of course if I didn't have the hull blasted I might not have found them. It pays to do things right!!! I do wish you luck, but one things for sure. I'll be watching because I can always learn something or a new trick to doing something! Thanks love your videos!
I disagree. If this couple has a serious breakdown either near shore or off shore, they simply can't just walk to the nearest store to fix it. The ocean is an unforgiving bitch that will take you out in an instant if you have not made every effort to make your boat as safe as possible. This couple simply can't rely on a communication to Boat U.S. to make it all better. Their very lives are on the line whenever they step aboard their boat. I would have thought a man your age would tell these two to throw caution to the wind is not only immature, but dangerous as well....... Jim.
SBC, that's why I'm saying there's always a balance. I think it's very important to take every necessary safety precaution that the situation demands, but there is certainly a point where adding more safety is frivolous. We always get polar opinions whenever we do anything. In this case the polarity is between the "safety guys" and the "anti-safety guys." The truth is always somewhere in the middle.
Head, tack, clew.... That's all you really need to make a mainsail work. If have got a mast and a boom, you already have 2 of the 3 necessary items. Rigging an outhaul and a mainsheet isn't too hard. All you need is 2 points aft to string a crosby-rigged mainsheet up, and a spot on the end of the boom to connect to. The further back the better. You could pretty much get away with throwing shackles on a couple of stanchion bases even with the end of the boom and using a bunch of blocks. if you can get 6:1 you are golden, 4:1 would probably work even. If you have some spin track out back that would be ideal to tie to for Crosby. Furling main or not. You probably have the gear to make it work if you have to. forums.sailboatowners.com/index.php?attachments/upload_2017-7-6_17-19-41-png.138414/ Tightening turnbuckles I just use a big-arsh screwdriver shoved in there. That belt looks way too loose the way it was wobbling around there. EPIRB signup on your list is SUPER EASY. What a super well-done website and system. It literally will only take you about 15 minutes.
Thanks for all the useful information! I definitely think in a pinch I'd be able to jury rig something to make the mainsail work, but for the trip it was way easier to motor. We obviously took both sails just in case we needed them. Thanks for watching!
Your no different that a small motor boat, you will be fine , do you have towboat us? Or somebody with you who has if it that counts. Don't waste you time with lifelines. I race every weekend on a small keel boat without lifelines. Look at sailing Uma ! Cheers Warren
long time ago i had a idea of somehow makeing submarine have raft life top reim of boat ??? subs may be bit different/style on hull osme how to make it posible for not going to deep and also maybe recsue more alive and bring up before stuck to deep and all around a boat a inflated ring around it and pull it like to inflate like a raft hut attatched around all the boat an keep afloat long enough if to keep cargo good and people time to escape if neccecary would it work i feel it would as long as it is top it should be good even if well if boat larger heavier than life enflated belt around boat top edge it would not work yet if estimate the cargo wait and such could build raft type around probly .equation type thing /subject of submarien and just boat or yaght i pretty sure that it ihas been invented i did sugjest once to company and did see a beeper was put in for rescue and would like a beeper for national forest visiters as well please help get it done for i feel needed at least the beeper if posble/
If you want to get rid of the red eye, raise your light a little. This is caused by lighting bouncing off of your retina. Its rather unnatural to see this.
What is your idea of staying close to land. You are not gonna use the sails anyway. Those sails are you safety equipment. Make those sail work. A mail or two offshore is the most dangerous place. Your on a sailboat. Sailboats are safest out at sea. Not close to land. You know the waters. Water so close to land have obstacles and are dangerous . Waters far away from land is the safest waters because bad weather wont force you onto hard land. How expensive are lifeline ropes. The use of sails dosent matter? Sails are lifesaving.
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I love the scuba gear,simple,light,very useful,thanks!
You didn't make a big mistake. You made a great video series.
Thanks!
Not a mistake, just a change in direction of the plan. Safe travels you two and we will see you on the hard.
Thank you!
This is great news. I am at exactly the same point in my journey with my 1978 Endeavour 32. I agree, it is a solid, very livable boat, worthy of a full refit. I am developing more of a rolling, season-bridging refit schedule that I will do in the northern Chesapeake (at The Wharf at Handy's Point) in Worton Creek. I love your DIY tutorials and I really look forward to following your progress as you refit.
For me, the more I am on my boat, the more solid and safe the boat feels, and the more of a "this is the boat" feeling I get. You know you have a good boat when you see another boat and say to yourself "i like my boat better". I say that often. Of course there are better boats that I covet, but I love mine.
How are your thru-hulls and valves? Mine had original gate valves, so one of this years big projects was replacing all of the seized gate valves with Groco ball valves, and the corresponding hoses.
Standing and running rigging, a few nav lights, batteries, bilge pump round out just a few others this year.
Yea, btw - a previous episode, but, my water tank is the same set up as Ben's and yours. Weird design choice for sure.
I would love some advice on the Manta and the roller. My boat doesn't have an anchor roller yet, but thats on the list, as well as a beefier anchor. Probably when I paint the deck and rebed - scheduled for fall '18 or spring '19. If i am pulling the headliner down to get to the deck fittings, I may as well rewire at the same time.....you've seen firsthand how this snowballs..LOL. You've probably found the Endeavour owners site and FB page, good stuff there. I want to use that aft pilot berth as a storage / nav table section. Still working that out in my head.
I love the friendships you are developing with fellow RUclips Vlogers. I subscribe to many of the channels you mention. :) I started a channel, but haven't really discovered a niche that would make it unique in comparison to other existing sailing channels.
I will be following you closely, fellow Endeavour refitters. Feel free to reach out, and Thanks!
Peace
Did I like the video...yes I did. I think it's fantastic you've come to the realisation that 'Freebie' is a keeper. You'll now put more heart and soul into the resto knowing it'll be your world cruiser and you'll learn so much about your boat in the process. That knowledge cannot be underestimated. Well done on the trip so far, you assessed the risks, you made some effort to mitigate them and took it easy. Chapeau 👍
Thanks so much for the kind words!
It is good to see you two, smart move get were you can work without stress. God Bless you Two
Thanks!
You didn't make a big mistake. You made an Awesome video series.
Many many non-decked boats do crossings like yours, so I wouldn't be worried at all, provided you have checked the forecasts! Happy journey!
Thank you!
My brother and I are looking forward to getting a sailboat and circumnavigating eventually. Ive been binge watching your series so far and it gives a great insight on what to expect when getting a boat. Subscribed.
Nice work guys love the mantis! Gonna have to look into those. Fair winds and following seas!
Thanks so much!
Good choice guys... get the boat on the hard, spend the money that’s required and make it your home.
I’m just catching up on your videos, but I mentioned just what your doing in a previous video
Have a safe journey to the new yard...i always enjoy watching you guys and love the content of your videos!! 👍👍👍
Thanks so much!
Your trip is fine....adventure. Good luck with the refit and I really look forward to your vlogs....nothing false....very natural....thanks guys
Thanks so much for the kind words!
This is a good decision. I like this boat and getting it sea worthy should be a great investment. That Mantus SCUBA gear could pay for itself in the long run. For a small fee, can help others in Marinas, clean props, rudders, water intakes. Looking forward to your trip. Stay Safe.
Thanks for the feedback!
Great to see well-judged risk assessment with measures in place to minimise issues. Hope you reached your destination ....! 🤞
We did, and it was an easy passage. Not saying what we did was the "safest" thing but you gotta look at all the variables!
Learning the Lines Is the water in that Lock starting to drop yet? Watch the weather, we,'re going to have an early season. I was going to drop you an email but it was on a laptop that is no longer with us... If you have my email, how about just shooting a reply so I can.capture your email info again. TYYL. Bruce
Turnbuckles tend to collect salt and get hard to turn. Spraying them off with freshwater really helps, and if you spray, wait for them to dry (mostly) and then give them a spritz of lube (WD40 or whatever favorite you have) you will get MUCH easier adjustments.
Thanks for your content - it's really enjoyable!
I am glad that you decided to keep this boat. A while down the road I suspect you will want a cat or a tri.
I have mentioned this in the past, but I would love for you two to get a Samsung Gear 360 (
I definitely think it's a good idea! I'd probably upload standalone 360 videos if I go that route. Thanks for the input!
From another viewers prospective - What a fantastic idea !!!
Sounds more like changing your mind, than making a mistake. Happens.
Definitely a little of both.
No mistake just a change in your overall plan. I wouldn't worry about motoring 70 miles IF you have faith in your motor! Should be a piece of cake! Looking forward to your refitting videos.
Thanks so much!
I say go for it! Of course, I've lost a boat so maybe I'm not the best one for advice. Still, you get great stories.
Lol, and we wouldn't be the first RUclips channel to lose a boat either. It was a successful passage though, and a nice one at that!
LOL! The best sea stories told at the rum barrel were the most harrowing experiences for the skipper telling them.
Lol
A little pic of the water coming out of the exhaust when the engine is warm would make me feel better. And, having a spare impeller. No matter how short the passage. You didn't talk about that. Anchorages are actually better, quieter (sometimes) and of course, usually free. Look at my sailing technology playlist, which is a place where you will find videos about things that a lot of RUclips Cruisers have had to deal with in their travels. I'm collecting them for myself also, hoping to join you eventually.
We have spare impellers/fuel/oil filters all that jazz with us. Good luck making steps towards the dream!
I sure would like to. While I'm on land I'm taking part of 14.300 net, trying to help, a relay every so often. The pacific sea fairers net is amazing. I'm trying to learn about AIS and cheaper ways to get it going, and everything I can think of that would help me. Trying to learn. How about you, any off shore for you yet ?
Best Wishes on your refit!
Thanks so much!
Love your big rim hat !!! Good luck 👍
Thank you!
I have faith in you and your boat ... go get er !
Cool Vid guys, thanks
Thanks for watching!
No mistake mate, you do what you have to do.....
Hey, you guys are moving to the same yard as my boat. "Seminole" is 35' Tom colvin gaff cutter. I'll be out there probably sunday, for a week working on it if you want to say howdy.
We won't be there this weekend, but if you ever see us just say hi!
Just traded my 28' boat for this 35' boat in need of deck repair, so I will probably be around for a few months, hah.
Awesome job , well done bro .🌈⛵🌈
Thank you!
Sometimes you have to do just what you have to do but when you have to get into situations like that do it as safely as possible and it would appear you are
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Good luck. We used to be in that marina. Cheap, but no overnight, no gate access after hours. Also way too many birds and their mess.
The one in St. Pete right? Yes the no after hours gate access was the worst.
Yes, Marina Bay. Totally agree.
You do what ya' gotta do. Nice compact dive gear. Looks a lot like the size of a fire fighter's SCBA.
One recommendation. Unless you know that you yourself poured too much oil in the engine, a diesel that "makes oil" means fuel is leaking into the oil ... somewhere. Some fuel pumps are mechanically driven from the injector rack over the head or a push-rod riding a cam on the main or secondary shaft (depends on the motor make and model - I'm not sure a small Westerbeke even has a secondary output shaft). This is a good place for fuel to bypass seals and end up mixed into the oil. On a Westerbeke it's almost the only place this might happen. When you complete your trip check the oil level after it has a few minutes to settle. If it has increased *at all* , be prepared to replace a few parts while she dries her feet. A 70 mile trip with this condition is not a concern as long as the oil isn't too thinned out by the diesel fuel. If you know you did this yourself ... well then ... shame on you =D Fair weather and enjoy the cruise.
Haha, I'd say it's probably most likely it was my fault :). We'll certainly check the oil level again now that she's on the hard. The trip went well!
Nice! Keep in mind that the boat may not be sitting exactly level or similar to how it sits in the water and might give you a false reading. This may be a check better put off until back in the water.
Makes sense. Thanks for the advice!
Sounds like a good plan. You will get a lot more done on your boat in a good working yard. Looking forward to the project.
The Little scuba system looks pretty usable but you might consider just improving your snorkel / freedive skills. Takes no additional equipment So you don't need to find a place to store that equipment and you don't need to worry about finding fills somewhere or worse, getting a compressor. With a little practice you can easily get down to scrub an 8 ft keel and remember most of your work is withing 3 ft of the surface with your snorkel on. Just my 2 cents.
Totally makes sense and is doable but currently I'm horrible at freediving lol.
TONY... are you the chap that taught Dan and Kika from s/v UMA their PADI Course??
Yea Bruce. That would be me. They are really great people. I got to visit them in Isla mujeres last month. If you look at their latest vid there is my ST on their chalkboard!
It seems we all follow the same channels huh?
Everything is coming together. Making good decisions.
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Hi guys. I love your enthusiasm. I’m not going to warn you about sailing off with no lifelines or ports in place but I will say this. I believe you said the boat is a Hunter. They are a fine but for coastal cruising, however, if you’re planning on extended off-shore passage making I would recommend a more robust make. Don’t take that to mean you shouldn’t refit the boat. You can do that, sail it locally, maybe even go to the keys where you have the opportunity to head for safe harbor should bad weather approach. It will afford you good experience for future more extended passages. I will also say, with the aforementioned in mind, be careful how much you spend on it. It’s easy to fall in love with a boat and get carried away with how much you spend on making her yours. Then, when the time comes to move up, you realize you will never get what you think the boat is worth. So, I guess the message is do your refit with caution and care. Remember, these boats were made cheaply so do only what you need to to make her safe and comfortable for your short term cruising goals. Save your money for a boat that is more qualified for extended voyaging, if that is your ultimate goal. In the meantime, have fun with her but keep your long term goal in mind and don’t break the bank on this boat. I hope I don’t sound like a killjoy. I don’t mean to. Just trying to help.
I totally understand and agree with you on this notion. I wouldn't take a Hunter offshore. However, our boat is an Endeavour 32, and while most wouldn't consider her a "bluewater" boat, I believe that properly outfitted she demonstrates the best qualities of a heavy displacement offshore cruiser.
A onboard air compressor for inflating rafts dinghies etc can also supply a diving regulator with a lot more than 20 minutes of air
Just get a air hose long enough to reach the entire length of the boat
True that.
The heck with the marina, anchor for free! EEEEEHHHAAAA!
I keep a couple of old leather keytags in my tool box, to pad tool jaws if needed. If you have no leather scraps, a shoemaker usually does. or a craft store, or something cheap at a thrift store.
The Mantius package is a nice package--but you can buy "pony bottles" in various sizes at any dive shop. Smaller or larger than what they offer, easy to set up something custom at the same or lower prices.
It sounded like you were going to be trucked to the new yard?? It is landlocked??
Good advice on the leather keytags! I'll need to get me some of those. We like the mantus package and you're correct it is similar to a pony bottle. Yes the new yard is about a mile from the nearest waterway. The truck over is included in the haul out fee.
lol, been their and done that. What was going to be a few jobs on mine turned into a full nut & bolt restoration. Loads of time & money but like you I came to the conclusion that I will never need another boat so thought what the hell and went for it. It doesn't matter how much it costs if your not going to sell it for a long time. Imagine how much a new boat would cost at that size. Plus older hulls are made a lot better than modern equivelants Oh and unless your working on it full time and not doing jobs than you can double that time estimate at least.
Haha yeah the time estimate is probably too short but I don't mind pulling weeks staying at the boat and working on it if I have to. I'd like it done in under a year.
Big tip from me though once it's on the hard. Get it fully waterproof on deck before touching the insides. Otherwise a storm comes along and rips off your covers/temporary windows and it gets wet and buggers up what you've done. I left mine far too long with temporary windows and covers and they just get shredded by high winds etc. Went through 3 lots of tarpaulins. That & paint drips/splatter when your painting the outside ends up inside through the windows.
Yes this is going to be the first step. We're going to paint the deck first and with that rebed everything and replace the portlights. Then we'll work on the interior.
When adjusting your standing rigging the goal is to make sure your mast is straight. Look up the spar where your main sail slides go in the groove of the spar, that needs to be straight after you adjust uppers and lowers. Your backstay should be tightened up enough to put a slight bend towards the aft of the boat. But before you go to adjusting your rig make damn sure your chainplates and backstay are solidly anchored. Look carefully for wood rot on the bulkheads, that the bolts have not deterioated. Chainplates need rebedded from time to time as water will get past your chainplate covers and reek havoc to decks (softspots) and rotting / delamination in your bulkheads if a previous owner was lax at maintaining the boat.
Thanks for the advice. We're going to be pulling the mast while on the hard and rebedding and inspecting the chainplates as well as replacing the standing rigging. The chainplates are bolted directly to the hull.
You might want to buy a cable tightness gauge, or maybe the boat yard might rent or let you borrow one,
tighten your cables correctly
16 thumbs down at 10,505 views. I am always at a loss to why on a video that covers all the bases about info and video it gets any thumbs down at all. Anyway in my opinion it was a good video. I actually liked the mantas plug. I think companies do a great job loaning stuff out in hopes of a sale. I agree it looked to be a very versatile set up to be able to use for what it was meant for. Lightweight so you can work but still have good quality so it lasts. I really think it was a great move and will give you much better access to being able to work on the boat and being able to live aboard at the same time. Great job and looking forward to the next video.
Thanks for the kind words! Like anything you do in life there are always haters. Impossible to please everyone.
The tighter your rig is, the safer and better for the sails. You could get a gauge to measure the tension and do the adjustments yourself.
We're definitely going to get a gauge.
Now I definitely know how to get free fisching-bait! 😂🖒
Awesomeness! Loco’s
Lol
If your coming through Boca Grande Pass be careful. The current gets wicked fast through there. hopefully it's incoming when you get there. I sail out of St James city, south Pine Island (little south of Charlotte Harbor.) Let me know if you need any info about the area. There is a nice well protected anchorage just inside the pass, south at Cayo Costa, just off the Cayo Costa St park dock. It wont look like you can get in that harbor but deep draft sailboats do it all the time. Have fun. ~John
We actually have already completed the trip and we did go through there. The current was definitely pretty fast! We were motoring against what seemed like a 2 knot current and there were tons of fishing boats in the middle of the channel. Fun fun. lol.
Yup, Tarpon season. Forgot to mention that;) Glad to hear you made it ok.
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YUP... you also forgot to mention the huge sharks (large hammerheads) that also call BG Pass home, this time of year.... 😊😊
Not to mention the Bull Sharks - they have no absolutely no fear. Btw, the harbor i mentioned at Cayo Costa is called Pelican Bay. You can spend a nice quite night or 2 there at anchor and hike the island during the day.
Need to get some work done on my sailboat as well and am in the same area. What is the Marina you will be doing the DIY work in? They have no lift out?
Hauled out at Charlotte Harbor Boat Storage and trucked over to J & R Marine.
tighten both sides equally and site up the mast to see if you have put a wave in it. Also do not over tighten you could pull them up through the hull or bend the mast.
Thanks for the input!
You guys change your mind every 5min's.....another 4 vids and I suspect we will get another change in the wind...funny but great to watch.
Put a pendant on the bottom of the job and hoist it all the way. Solves halyard wrap problem.
Thanks for the advice. I'll try it!
Sailors Palm and some marline twine can make a patch to the sail.
We're going to patch it up with our sailrite machine soon.
Did you see Abandon Comfort is at Fort Jefferson / Dry Tortugas ??
Yep, I actually went down to visit them after they returned not long ago.
Guys, the whole gestalt of being a professional mariner is one of risk management. There's a reason why 200 recreational boaters die for every professional. Where you can't eliminate risk, you manage it. That beig said, you exercised reasonable risk management with the passage. Could have done better, could have done a lot worse, and you had a nice time. You could have made the same passage in any open boat in the same manner, safely. The risk was managed. At some level, if you spend enough days at sea, things happen. Your level of training and experience, and the proper maintenance of your boat are the best mitigation tactics. You did fine.
The3 clothing or suit you had on while doing your bottom cleaning seems to be lighter than a wet suit? Can you tell me more about it ? Thank you
Robert
Looking forward to this next year and your progress. Keep going...... $15k for a diy refit??? Maybe $50-75k. It would be great if you could share all your costs as you go along. Good luck. Sounds exciting.
We're keeping track of all the costs. Keep in mind we're doing all the work ourselves and have several sponsorships. It may cost more, but that's what I'm estimating.
Good decision:-)
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damn notifications! damn RUclips! I almost missed this vid
GOOD LUCK BE SAFE
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over full oil level can blow engine seals
Cover the port lights with cheap melamine 4x8 sheets , cut to size and duct taped. Open ports not good and it’s easy security. Good in the yard also and easy open and close. Just saying
We've actually already covered them.
Keep watch on that motor oil level. If it starts to rise there could be serious problems with the engine.
Will do. Thanks!
split rings work much better than cotter pins 1)no tools needed 2) no sharp ends to cut yourself or sails and quick adjustments of stays under sail
They do work well!
Genoa + Duct tape = Good to Go!
I intend to learn to sail and then get a boat but I know nothing right now. I'm part blind, (legally blind 20_200) I've kayaked the entire Mississippi River and thru hiked the Appalachian trail and near 10,000 miles total. What's the best way to get an unpayed crew position? I figure donating time and labor in exchange for knowledge. Binging this entire series over the next few days... Recently unemployed due to the human malware that struck the planet, figure no time like the present to make a life change.
Need any deckhands to go with.
have u checked out the house boats in the England area ? gourgouse it is just grate and better than great.t underwater bedrooms and would need tug if transport for i wish we had them here in areas for America .man made island and hotel it is on utube.
man a whole video of 'we don't recommend'
keep on trucking
Hahah I don't want people getting the wrong message and ending up like the couple that sank their boat the second day on the water...
maybe in the beginning of each video --- you put
"We are learning."
Haha well the name of the channel is "Learning the Lines"
right... my point is I would hope you wouldn't need to put a disclaimer on evething you do.
Haha you'd be surprised.
I am happy for you that you have found a boat that works for you, congratulations!
I am wondering how long it took you to clean the bottom of the hull...20mins with the Mantis seems like too little time. What are you thoughts? - Thank you for another excellent video :)
It took two bottles to do the bottom. I think next time I'll clean the waterline and as far as I can reach around the boat while snorkling then do the keel and lower portions with a bottle. Should only take one then.
Thanks. I didn't think of that - great solution.
Learning the Lines ....where did you come up with the second bottle. Fill up or did the 2nd come with the Mantus setup?
I had four filled bottles. Each backpack had a harness, regulator, and two bottles.
Tough diver jumping in that murky water
More like a BiG change of plans then mistake. But hey click bait is fun. Have fun on the refit!
I noticed you may be using kiwi grip on the deck. Just added some to the work boat and here's what I noticed. I used a big sponge brush to spread the material out and seemed to work good allowing me to control the thickness of the material. It flattens out as it dries at least it did it to me. So my grip wasn't as aggressive as when I first rolled it. Still works but if I had known that I would have been more aggressive on the rolling since I wanted that area pretty grippy. Go ahead and test it in a small area and see how it dries and looks. Also, like it says in the instructions remove the tape as soon as you finish rolling. I forgot a piece and it was a bitch to get off without tearing up a small section. Good luck!
Thanks for the tips! And yes the title was a tad clickbaity :)
Hi, When you said that the cost of the yard is about $7.00 usd per foot, is that per month or week?
Per month.
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Thanks! Lol
What was the make of your skin suit and purchase point. Thanks
To be honest I don't remember. I bought it at Diver's direct two years ago for $80.00 I believe.
Oi, estou gostando muito dos videos de vocês mas, nós gostaríamos de ver mais os trabalhos que estão sendo realizados do que ver voce falando diante da câmera. Apenas uma sugestão. São Paulo - Brasil.
Hey, nice TODO App you use. what is it called?
It's just called "Note" I believe it was already on my galaxy s9 when I got it.
Thanks. Also hope to store our old boat (Catalac 8M 1986 which is for sale) at the yard you are going to, so would like to hear how it works out for you there.
So far so good! The staff are really friendly and knowledgeable. It's night and day from the last boatyard we were at.
People from Cuba cross to Florida on inner tubes, you’ll be fine. 😊
Not all of them make it though.
They can talk the talk but can they walk the walk I strongly doubt it.
I don't understand all the "you are unsafe, blah blah, yadda yadda". It is for each individual to decide what they are willing to risk. You obviously thought about it and decided it was worth it. It isn't for anyone but you and Randy to have a say.
I agree :)
So Randi brings the food. I'd keep her around just for that! Ü Nice that you're aware of the safety aspect. I think where most safety guy/gays get all freaky is when sailors, or just people in general, ignore the safety issues and make statements like...oh..it's only 70 miles...what could possibly happen? HA! I see this happen often here in AZ when people hike. They think going on a short easy hike allows then to throw most of the safety we've all bean taught into the wind and not realizing being 2 miles from the trail head with a broken leg is the same as 12 miles. Anyway, kudos to you for putting the life lines back on and here's to a safe journey. BTW...what app are you using for your list? PEACE OUT! Ü
Thanks so much for the feedback. The app is just called "Note" and I believe it came with my galaxy s9.
OK..thanks for the app info. I have an S5 and it's not there. But I also just bought an S7 so many I'll get lucky!
No problem.
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Learning The Lines
I know its on my Samsung 8S. Use it a lot
Silly boy, hookah system is the way to go. Try getting air in a tank where there's no filling stations. Scuba is for fun, hookah is for work on a sailboat.
Shakes head and slaps leg. Lol
I like hookah systems for sure but they're not as portable as a backpack scuba system.
Why would'nt you recommend traveling on her own hull? No windows? Life lines? You know how many center consoles travel like that ? They dont even have port holes. They are wide open to the elements. Sailors make too big a deal about everything. If you are confident in the engine then you are "good to go". No need to apologize about your choice.
Obviously we're fine with what we did. It ended being an awesome passage, but a sailboat is a bit different from a powerboat in that it can't "run" from a storm that comes out of nowhere. That's the main reason I don't think what we did was necessarily "safe" albeit it was as safe as possible for us and we were willing to take the small amount of risk.
Thats why you needed a good weather window to travel. People make that same "big Bend" passage on the Gulf in 25 ft ranger tugs at 6 kts. All trawlers cant out run weather, but a good weather window is worth waiting for.
I totally agree. I just figured I'd acknowledge that what we did wasn't as safe as if we had sails, port lights, handrails... That's all.
Oh yeah, we moved our boat out of titusville to fort pierce, then to Charleston where we now have shaft alignment problems. This pearson 365 is getting on my last nerve. Yall knock the work out, then head on up to the outter banks.
Outer banks would be awesome. So many people go Caribbean first so be may sail north first :) I'd love to go up the coast and cross over to Europe. All in time though that's pretty far away.
You did make a mistake......10 to 15 thousand? Ha!!! Try tripling that. Would you like to make a bet? I'm starting on my 4th refurb project and I can tell you I shop eBay, Craig's List and many different Marine Stores on a daily basis to find the best deals and it always cost more than you planned. I do everything as if I was building my forever boat so I have found there are lots of things that I can't do myself. Example: bought a sailboat with about 11 coats of bottom paint, could have spent a month sanding and scraping but found the 1,000 dollars for soda blasting was money well spent. Then there are the things you don't plan on....under those 11 coats of bottom paint I found 7 bolts throught the hull below the water line. Those had to be cut out and holes fiberglassed, of course if I didn't have the hull blasted I might not have found them. It pays to do things right!!! I do wish you luck, but one things for sure. I'll be watching because I can always learn something or a new trick to doing something! Thanks love your videos!
Thanks for the feedback!
Your gonna Die, I love these naysaying trolls! Just do it dude the safety sally's be damned! Lol!
Haha there's certainly a balance.
I disagree. If this couple has a serious breakdown either near shore or off shore, they simply can't just walk to the nearest store to fix it. The ocean is an unforgiving bitch that will take you out in an instant if you have not made every effort to make your boat as safe as possible. This couple simply can't rely on a communication to Boat U.S. to make it all better. Their very lives are on the line whenever they step aboard their boat. I would have thought a man your age would tell these two to throw caution to the wind is not only immature, but dangerous as well....... Jim.
SBC, that's why I'm saying there's always a balance. I think it's very important to take every necessary safety precaution that the situation demands, but there is certainly a point where adding more safety is frivolous. We always get polar opinions whenever we do anything. In this case the polarity is between the "safety guys" and the "anti-safety guys." The truth is always somewhere in the middle.
Head, tack, clew....
That's all you really need to make a mainsail work. If have got a mast and a boom, you already have 2 of the 3 necessary items. Rigging an outhaul and a mainsheet isn't too hard. All you need is 2 points aft to string a crosby-rigged mainsheet up, and a spot on the end of the boom to connect to. The further back the better. You could pretty much get away with throwing shackles on a couple of stanchion bases even with the end of the boom and using a bunch of blocks. if you can get 6:1 you are golden, 4:1 would probably work even. If you have some spin track out back that would be ideal to tie to for Crosby. Furling main or not. You probably have the gear to make it work if you have to. forums.sailboatowners.com/index.php?attachments/upload_2017-7-6_17-19-41-png.138414/
Tightening turnbuckles I just use a big-arsh screwdriver shoved in there.
That belt looks way too loose the way it was wobbling around there.
EPIRB signup on your list is SUPER EASY. What a super well-done website and system. It literally will only take you about 15 minutes.
Thanks for all the useful information! I definitely think in a pinch I'd be able to jury rig something to make the mainsail work, but for the trip it was way easier to motor. We obviously took both sails just in case we needed them. Thanks for watching!
If your engine oil is going up, you may have a bad injector.
Implying fuel is getting into the oil? Perhaps. It's also likely I overfilled it a few months ago when I changed the oil. lol.
Your no different that a small motor boat, you will be fine , do you have towboat us? Or somebody with you who has if it that counts.
Don't waste you time with lifelines. I race every weekend on a small keel boat without lifelines. Look at sailing Uma !
Cheers Warren
Haha, all true. I still had to acknowledge that it wasn't the safest thing to do.
long time ago i had a idea of somehow makeing submarine have raft life top reim of boat ??? subs may be bit different/style on hull osme how to make it posible for not going to deep and also maybe recsue more alive and bring up before stuck to deep and all around a boat a inflated ring around it and pull it like to inflate like a raft hut attatched around all the boat an keep afloat long enough if to keep cargo good and people time to escape if neccecary would it work i feel it would as long as it is top it should be good even if well if boat larger heavier than life enflated belt around boat top edge it would not work yet if estimate the cargo wait and such could build raft type around probly .equation type thing /subject of submarien and just boat or yaght i pretty sure that it ihas been invented i did sugjest once to company and did see a beeper was put in for rescue and would like a beeper for national forest visiters as well please help get it done for i feel needed at least the beeper if posble/
If you want to get rid of the red eye, raise your light a little. This is caused by lighting bouncing off of your retina. Its rather unnatural to see this.
It was dark so I had the camera light on. It was either red eye or night vision.
arthropods!
So what was the big mistake then I watched for nothing
What is your idea of staying close to land. You are not gonna use the sails anyway. Those sails are you safety equipment. Make those sail work. A mail or two offshore is the most dangerous place. Your on a sailboat. Sailboats are safest out at sea. Not close to land. You know the waters. Water so close to land have obstacles and are dangerous . Waters far away from land is the safest waters because bad weather wont force you onto hard land. How expensive are lifeline ropes. The use of sails dosent matter? Sails are lifesaving.
nothing worse than those critters in your hair and ears. for sure the worst part of barnacle scraping
Who am I to call you foolish.... You two are going to "sail the world" in that boat.... At the least, you are pretentious with you title and thoughts.
You're definitely entitled to your opinion.
SV UMA is still sailing without life lines.
Yep, hopefully getting full stainless lifelines soon though.
Yes me too. Them things are expensive. I was quoted 1200 bucks or I can do it myself for $500
You didn't make a big mistake. You made an Awesome video series.
over full oil level can blow engine seals
He drained some oil in the video.