Just turned 76 and take 5g of CM each morning. Started 2 years ago in hopes of holding on to my decent strength and stability. As an exercise buff I can attest that my endurance increased notably but not my strength and certainly not my appearance. I retired @ 74 and told my PCP that I expected to need an antidepressant at some point based on history and solitary life. Two years later I SUSPECT the creatine has helped me change my mind about that. I look forward to exploring your channel.
Actually I started taking it for its reputed physical effects. I worked in construction and wanted to squeeze a few more years out of my skills. Given the risk profile of Creatine I felt comfortable despite being skeptical of supplements in general. As an exerciser I saw immediate and fairly dramatic results. I couldn't lift more weight but my reps nearly doubled. When I did retire I was fearful of the nothingness as an unattached guy without children. Two years in I'm fine. Does the Creatine help? My gut says yes.
Have you discovered the I AM LONGEVITY channel on RUclips? The guy seems like a modern Jack Lalane. I saw one video of his about exercising fast twitch muscles and felt like it was a brilliant idea, at least to experiment with.
Not familiar with Mr I Am Longevity but I took a quick look to respond to your comment. Looks like there's useful stuff there but my first insight was his age. He's ten years younger than I am, and I can tell you: It's a big ten years! By that I mean that - as announced recently by the medical research community - we all experience several rather dramatic aging 'steps' that are different from the gradual subtle changes that are the norm. Somewhere around 70 it happened to me, and I'll just say I looked and felt older in a sudden way. Bottom line is that my goals now have little to do with how fast a muscle is twitching but rather How do I manage to stay strong, flexible and sharp WITHOUT hurting myself. As I said before, I believe creatine is helping - at low cost and low risk. Good luck with your own journey!
Thank you for an informative presentation. I am almost 80 years old and have been under continual stress due to being the sole caregiver for my wife, who has Parkinson's Disease. I experienced many months of 'brain fog' and even light-headedness (for what those symptoms are worth.) I also have neuro-muscular decline, probably consistent with aging. Recent creatine supplementation has cleared things up for me...and I have been surprised.
This is strange, I asked my psychiatrist after being hospitalized due to severe depression to be precisely bipolar. I asked her if I should continue taking creatine since I am doing work out at the gym, and she strictly advised me to stay away from creatine. I stopped taking creatine and honestly I felt the worst feeling of my life. I am a COVID 19 sarvivor and creatine helped me get back to the gym.I then started taking creatine and I am feeling very good and with energy always,I guess if physicians are not sure of any substance,it’s better not to comment on it.This psychiatrist really mislead me
Most doctors will err on the side of caution. It’s easier for them just to say ‘no’ to anything they are unsure about then say ‘that’s probably okay’ then risk a lawsuit if there is a problem.
Hi Doc! Thanks for touching on the vegetarian/vegan angle. Vegetarian here, and I've been glad to see the emerging research on creatine monohydrate benefits for us. Thanks for making this video! Cheers from NYC.
i bought some creatine a few months after i began lifting, but i only took one dose, bc i've had kidney & liver issues in the past, and don't wanna dredge them back up. but i was drawn to this vid bc there's a Dr Mark Perlmutter from NC, who's a personal hero of mine. i guess it would be unlikely for you to be related. but he's a rock star for sure.
I recently decided to try use creatine for training and what I found it greatly improve my concentration for whole day just from 1g... aslo my body really don't like take more than 2g per day, optimal is for me only 1g/day.
I struggle with getting into deep sleep and I feel like creatine has a negative effect on that so might reduce dose even further from 2.5g down to 1g and see if I still get the workout benefits. I do notice a large boost in mental clarity, lessened depression, and increased energy the days I do take creatine, so really hoping I can find the right dosage because the benefits it provides are very marked.
@@brettconnolly399 Sometimes is better just don't take creatine one day so body can better adapt... what I noticed after 3 weeks of usage my body now easier can take higher dosage. So it matter of letting body deal with it first.
Hi Austin, you’re right about the buzz…I’m 79 and have had memory issues for about a decade. I’ve been taking Creatine-BCAA for two months now and will get back to you on what I discover. Thanks for your work in this field. BTW my son, age 36 is a PT so I’ve got some support lol!
Vegan for almost 12 years before supplementing creatine. It is a world of difference for me especially post-workout. It's dangerous to drive especially at night in a downpour after a very intense workout because the muscles are so fatigued. Creatine really helps the backend of a tough workout so I don't feel physically incompetent afterwards. I take magnesium creatine chelate 2.5g (pure creatine no fillers or binders) before a workout and 2.5g after a workout. I have researched every creatine and IMO, magnesium creatine chelate is the best if you got the extra $$. Creapure is the other one I recommend; it is monohydrate form and 99.9% pure which is one bar purity purer than normal creatine monohydrate that tests at only ~99% pure. I don't think carnivores need creatine supplementation at all, and most omnivores are probably getting enough unless they are bodybuilding most days.
I do one set per muscle groups.. workout takes about ten mins..and my muscles are continuously growing..cant tell most people muscle building isnt a marathon sport but a sprinting sport..no wonder almost all natural trainers fail
Thanks for your video, I had a head injury which basically is a brain injury. I have TBI, I have felt quite slower since after the injury but it's getting better and better as time goes on. It's been about 4 months, but sometimes I do feel fatigued and very low will for anything. I'm going to give this a shot and hopefully it works. Today is the first day, I'll let you guys know
@@jamesellsworth9673 yes thank you for the information James. I took creatine for 4 days the first two days were amazing because I had the best sleep I've ever had in a while. To me that's a confirmation that it's working somehow some way. Maybe more so me because my injury. I think for everybody its different. My brain needed it somehow and possibly somebody else's they don't, or won't feel anything different if they took it. I'm going to continue.
To be honest I slept for the next 3 days great. Way better then ever so I think it had some effect. After not as much, but I think it does make me feel a little better. Not super but for sure makes a small effect to some extent
I just subscribed. Excellent presentation Doctor. I read 'Grain Brain' and recognize the family name. I will watch your research and hope to learn mounds of new data 🙂
I've experienced the benefits of creatine monohydrate for strength training and workout recovery. I'm still not sure there is sufficient research to say that creatine is beneficial for cognitive health for older adults that do not strength train. Do you have sufficient studies on this? Creatine, as old as it is, is showing promise. Thanks, Doc.
Hi dr ive thought about taking 5 mg a day, but im on amolodopine what you think i train 6 days a week doing cardio and weight training i was diagnosed with blood pressure about 2years ago, hope you have a nice day today @draustinperlmutter
@mellocello187 So let's talk, we will see who the dummy is. We can start by you explaining the following: deduction abstraction compartmentalization relative to the Gobel incompleteness theorem, I cant wait for your non-existing answer.
I would be very happy to see a video of yours about Inositol. There is still very little information available about this supplement on RUclips. I am using it and it seems to be helping my sleep both in duration and quality. However, I would like to know the safety profile of this supplement and the correct dosage. Thanks!
This was an amazing video!! Very informative! I am Bipolar and I am training for a marathon, so I take creatine for both mental and physical! Would you suggest anything?? Or just keep taking around 5gs with food after a workout??
Thank you for All of the information in The background of creatine. This lines up with the other things I've been hearing as well on the benefits. Thank you doctor
Unfortunately I can't take it. I was able to figure out that it gives me muscle cramps and pulls. Also there are some researches showing that it may reduce your endurance and vo2max. I didn't get massive benefits from it strength wise and I think in can be replaced by others stuff in this term.
You can take it you just need to drink a lot more water. Your cramps came from being dehydrated because creatine pushes water into your muscles so you need to drink more water when you are on it
I blacked out from medications when I stood and I came down - on my face and was knocked out for 11 hours and it caused some damage - that was a year ago and still have some damage - took my first dose of creatine today taking a second this evening - my body seemed to want more after that first 5 grams
I've heard creatine levels are tested for in kidneys? Is it something we already make? Can dietary changes support our bodies to create creatine or just boost our levels?
You may be thinking of creatinine, which is a breakdown product of creatine. We do make creatine, and it's found in our diet, but the most compelling research is around taking supplementation which elevates levels far higher than what diet does alone.
@@draustinperlmutter Ah, thanks. Maybe the levels of it in the kidneys reflects the kidney function? As we get older maybe we don't make it like we used to, as is the case with other substances we supplement?
Very helpful information. Gives us a way to address the issue Dr. Christopher Palmer raises about brain energy without having to be on a ketogenic diet. I have recently started supplementing with creatine monohydrate to help me increase muscle strength as I age. It is helping, and I have noticed some improvement in brain clarity as a much appreciated side benefit. Thank you for confirming that the dosage I am using is good for both goals - no need to take more to get the brain benefit. Thank you!!
I can only find "Micronized" Creatine...not Monohydrate only. Can someone recommend a brand? Every single one on Amazon and GNC are Micronized. I want the original Creatine Monohydrate. Thanks
Most of you guys talk of Energy ..in brain in muscles..bladder prostate ...what happens in a Diabetic ?? Is insulin needed in transfer into these cells ?? Especially exercise ..read somewhere its not necessary! Please comment ! Thank you !
In another video the Dr explained that it causes your muscles to hydrate and that’s healthy for the muscles so that could be some or all of your weight gain.
WARNING: I was hospitalized with one dose of Creatine Horrific pain made chemotherapy look easy. If you have any kidney issues, even minor ones, it will cause screaming out loud agony. This supplement is dangerous and can kill you. Spoke with a gent who's father died of it as well. FDA failed us terribly. It's appalling to see so many folks touting such a dangerous substance. Sorry to have to say it but it was the most terrible pain I've ever experienced as a stage 4 cancer survivor. I know pain but this, worse than dentists, child birth and chemo combined. Fine one moment, took a single dose and was in the emergency room in 20 minutes. A truly nightmarish experience.
When experimenting with a new supplement, I start with 1/4 -1/2 the recommended dose. Synthetic Creatine Monohydrate does not sound like a supplement for me. Natural source, maybe yes. Rather consume more fish, meat....
Just turned 76 and take 5g of CM each morning. Started 2 years ago in hopes of holding on to my decent strength and stability. As an exercise buff I can attest that my endurance increased notably but not my strength and certainly not my appearance. I retired @ 74 and told my PCP that I expected to need an antidepressant at some point based on history and solitary life. Two years later I SUSPECT the creatine has helped me change my mind about that. I look forward to exploring your channel.
Interesting. So you generally feel more positive since taking creatine?
Actually I started taking it for its reputed physical effects. I worked in construction and wanted to squeeze a few more years out of my skills. Given the risk profile of Creatine I felt comfortable despite being skeptical of supplements in general. As an exerciser I saw immediate and fairly dramatic results. I couldn't lift more weight but my reps nearly doubled. When I did retire I was fearful of the nothingness as an unattached guy without children. Two years in I'm fine. Does the Creatine help? My gut says yes.
I seem to handle lack of sleep better after I started taking daily creatine.
Have you discovered the I AM LONGEVITY channel on RUclips? The guy seems like a modern Jack Lalane. I saw one video of his about exercising fast twitch muscles and felt like it was a brilliant idea, at least to experiment with.
Not familiar with Mr I Am Longevity but I took a quick look to respond to your comment. Looks like there's useful stuff there but my first insight was his age. He's ten years younger than I am, and I can tell you: It's a big ten years! By that I mean that - as announced recently by the medical research community - we all experience several rather dramatic aging 'steps' that are different from the gradual subtle changes that are the norm. Somewhere around 70 it happened to me, and I'll just say I looked and felt older in a sudden way. Bottom line is that my goals now have little to do with how fast a muscle is twitching but rather How do I manage to stay strong, flexible and sharp WITHOUT hurting myself. As I said before, I believe creatine is helping - at low cost and low risk. Good luck with your own journey!
Thank you for an informative presentation. I am almost 80 years old and have been under continual stress due to being the sole caregiver for my wife, who has Parkinson's Disease. I experienced many months of 'brain fog' and even light-headedness (for what those symptoms are worth.) I also have neuro-muscular decline, probably consistent with aging. Recent creatine supplementation has cleared things up for me...and I have been surprised.
Glad you're finding some relief. Caring for a loved one can be a lot. All the best. ♡
May Allah make things easy for you and blessed.
This is strange, I asked my psychiatrist after being hospitalized due to severe depression to be precisely bipolar. I asked her if I should continue taking creatine since I am doing work out at the gym, and she strictly advised me to stay away from creatine. I stopped taking creatine and honestly I felt the worst feeling of my life. I am a COVID 19 sarvivor and creatine helped me get back to the gym.I then started taking creatine and I am feeling very good and with energy always,I guess if physicians are not sure of any substance,it’s better not to comment on it.This psychiatrist really mislead me
Most doctors will err on the side of caution. It’s easier for them just to say ‘no’ to anything they are unsure about then say ‘that’s probably okay’ then risk a lawsuit if there is a problem.
She probably has no idea about creatine. Psychiatrists aren't specialists when it comes to diet / nutrition etc.
Doctors only know how to prescribe shitty meds. Few are actually exceptional at their jobs.
I have learned to listen to my body and not what other people think. If it feels good, just keep taking it.
I am a long haul co*id survivor and creatine is helping me.
Hi Doc! Thanks for touching on the vegetarian/vegan angle. Vegetarian here, and I've been glad to see the emerging research on creatine monohydrate benefits for us.
Thanks for making this video!
Cheers from NYC.
i bought some creatine a few months after i began lifting, but i only took one dose, bc i've had kidney & liver issues in the past, and don't wanna dredge them back up.
but i was drawn to this vid bc there's a Dr Mark Perlmutter from NC, who's a personal hero of mine. i guess it would be unlikely for you to be related. but he's a rock star for sure.
i swear you LOOK like you could be his son, though
I recently decided to try use creatine for training and what I found it greatly improve my concentration for whole day just from 1g... aslo my body really don't like take more than 2g per day, optimal is for me only 1g/day.
I struggle with getting into deep sleep and I feel like creatine has a negative effect on that so might reduce dose even further from 2.5g down to 1g and see if I still get the workout benefits. I do notice a large boost in mental clarity, lessened depression, and increased energy the days I do take creatine, so really hoping I can find the right dosage because the benefits it provides are very marked.
@@brettconnolly399 Sometimes is better just don't take creatine one day so body can better adapt... what I noticed after 3 weeks of usage my body now easier can take higher dosage. So it matter of letting body deal with it first.
@@brettconnolly399 I recommend try magnesium creatine chelate, it has 50% chelated magnesium per 2.5 dose. Try that as magnesium helps sleep.
Hi Austin, you’re right about the buzz…I’m 79 and have had memory issues for about a decade. I’ve been taking Creatine-BCAA for two months now and will get back to you on what I discover. Thanks for your work in this field. BTW my son, age 36 is a PT so I’ve got some support lol!
Any updates?
@@Mowglibaloo2he probably forgot
@@cerberus3426What were we talking about?
Try huperzine-a... you will get the brain power of a teenager
Vegan for almost 12 years before supplementing creatine. It is a world of difference for me especially post-workout. It's dangerous to drive especially at night in a downpour after a very intense workout because the muscles are so fatigued. Creatine really helps the backend of a tough workout so I don't feel physically incompetent afterwards. I take magnesium creatine chelate 2.5g (pure creatine no fillers or binders) before a workout and 2.5g after a workout. I have researched every creatine and IMO, magnesium creatine chelate is the best if you got the extra $$. Creapure is the other one I recommend; it is monohydrate form and 99.9% pure which is one bar purity purer than normal creatine monohydrate that tests at only ~99% pure. I don't think carnivores need creatine supplementation at all, and most omnivores are probably getting enough unless they are bodybuilding most days.
I do one set per muscle groups.. workout takes about ten mins..and my muscles are continuously growing..cant tell most people muscle building isnt a marathon sport but a sprinting sport..no wonder almost all natural trainers fail
Thanks for your video, I had a head injury which basically is a brain injury. I have TBI, I have felt quite slower since after the injury but it's getting better and better as time goes on. It's been about 4 months, but sometimes I do feel fatigued and very low will for anything. I'm going to give this a shot and hopefully it works. Today is the first day, I'll let you guys know
Good wishes! I found creatine helped mitigate my similar symptoms. I also use Taurine supplementation. It helps me.
@@jamesellsworth9673 yes thank you for the information James. I took creatine for 4 days the first two days were amazing because I had the best sleep I've ever had in a while. To me that's a confirmation that it's working somehow some way. Maybe more so me because my injury. I think for everybody its different. My brain needed it somehow and possibly somebody else's they don't, or won't feel anything different if they took it. I'm going to continue.
Any results to report yet?
To be honest I slept for the next 3 days great. Way better then ever so I think it had some effect. After not as much, but I think it does make me feel a little better. Not super but for sure makes a small effect to some extent
I’ve been taking creatine so much more often lately. Mixes very well into my morning coffee! ☕️
Hope you’ve been well!
Thank you! You too!
Nope I think creatine should not be mixed with coffee as it reduces the benefits of creatine
@@Leo-se3fu can you point to some research on that please
@@monkeysgone2heaven1caffeine dehydration and increased urination. Drink more water. Would probably space out coffee and creatine
Seen many edu videos on creatine. Yours was professional, medical grade info. Thanks for not diluting science for dummies. Subscribed! 🎉
I just subscribed. Excellent presentation Doctor. I read 'Grain Brain' and recognize the family name. I will watch your research and hope to learn mounds of new data 🙂
Welcome aboard!
I've experienced the benefits of creatine monohydrate for strength training and workout recovery. I'm still not sure there is sufficient research to say that creatine is beneficial for cognitive health for older adults that do not strength train. Do you have sufficient studies on this? Creatine, as old as it is, is showing promise. Thanks, Doc.
check out the article on my website. lots of studies!
Hi dr ive thought about taking 5 mg a day, but im on amolodopine what you think i train 6 days a week doing cardio and weight training i was diagnosed with blood pressure about 2years ago, hope you have a nice day today @draustinperlmutter
is there a way to remove youtube comments I have yet to see a single intelligent youtube comment my entire life
@mellocello187 So let's talk, we will see who the dummy is. We can start by you explaining the following: deduction abstraction compartmentalization relative to the Gobel incompleteness theorem, I cant wait for your non-existing answer.
@@PuppetMasterdaath144👺< this is you
This was helpful. Thanks for info.
Thanks!
Dr. Perlmutter, should creatine be taken with or without food, and why?
Great breakdown for creatine! Have subbed.
Thank you doc, do you use it?
Hi doc
Is this good for someone with a brain tumour ???
Thank you !!!
Thank you for sharing this information 😊
THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR INSIGHTFUL, CARE AND SENSITIVE SUPPORT WITH THE TRUE AND REAL. YOU ARE WONDERFUL. BLESSINGS AND KEEP SHINING.
Brain health is a good topic.
I would be very happy to see a video of yours about Inositol. There is still very little information available about this supplement on RUclips. I am using it and it seems to be helping my sleep both in duration and quality. However, I would like to know the safety profile of this supplement and the correct dosage. Thanks!
Do you take it in the evening?
@@yolaashkebazie7428 Yes. I dissolve 3 grames in 200 ml of water and drink it when I wake up during the night.
As a 76 year old male, I want to take Creatine for exercise. Is there a routine for a cycle of taking Creatine or should I take it daily? Thanks
you can take it daily
It's stored in your muscles. There's no point in cycling. People usually do a loading phase or just take 5 - 10 grams daily
Thanks for information! Very useful
This was an amazing video!! Very informative!
I am Bipolar and I am training for a marathon, so I take creatine for both mental and physical!
Would you suggest anything?? Or just keep taking around 5gs with food after a workout??
Can I take it every single day, or should I take a break for a month after taking it for a month?
An excellent presentation !
Glad you liked it!
Thanks
Thank you for All of the information in The background of creatine. This lines up with the other things I've been hearing as well on the benefits. Thank you doctor
DOSE 5 GRAMS PER DAY OR 5 GRAMS PER POUND OF BODY WEIGHT?
The best studies I've seen look at around 5 grams per person per day, not by weight
How do you define 'healthy'?
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Love it Austin you rock
Unfortunately I can't take it.
I was able to figure out that it gives me muscle cramps and pulls. Also there are some researches showing that it may reduce your endurance and vo2max. I didn't get massive benefits from it strength wise and I think in can be replaced by others stuff in this term.
You can take it you just need to drink a lot more water. Your cramps came from being dehydrated because creatine pushes water into your muscles so you need to drink more water when you are on it
@@letitrip5139 Man I drink like 5 liters of water which of 2 liters are with electrolytes 😉
I blacked out from medications when I stood and I came down - on my face and was knocked out for 11 hours and it caused some damage - that was a year ago and still have some damage - took my first dose of creatine today taking a second this evening - my body seemed to want more after that first 5 grams
Curious how do you feel I'm on day 4 I feel great
Please consider adding time codes to your content.
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@@martin_k AND titled “Chapters”. Much appreciated
Sad that you require chapters for a video that’s only 12 minutes long. Do you have the attention span of a toddler?
I've heard creatine levels are tested for in kidneys? Is it something we already make? Can dietary changes support our bodies to create creatine or just boost our levels?
You may be thinking of creatinine, which is a breakdown product of creatine. We do make creatine, and it's found in our diet, but the most compelling research is around taking supplementation which elevates levels far higher than what diet does alone.
@@draustinperlmutter Ah, thanks. Maybe the levels of it in the kidneys reflects the kidney function? As we get older maybe we don't make it like we used to, as is the case with other substances we supplement?
Very helpful information. Gives us a way to address the issue Dr. Christopher Palmer raises about brain energy without having to be on a ketogenic diet. I have recently started supplementing with creatine monohydrate to help me increase muscle strength as I age. It is helping, and I have noticed some improvement in brain clarity as a much appreciated side benefit. Thank you for confirming that the dosage I am using is good for both goals - no need to take more to get the brain benefit. Thank you!!
What’s your dosage?
Doing another one on brain energetics of creatine soon!
I can only find "Micronized" Creatine...not Monohydrate only. Can someone recommend a brand? Every single one on Amazon and GNC are Micronized. I want the original Creatine Monohydrate. Thanks
I implore everybody give magnesium creatine chelate a go.
Most of you guys talk of Energy ..in brain in muscles..bladder prostate ...what happens in a Diabetic ?? Is insulin needed in transfer into these cells ?? Especially exercise ..read somewhere its not necessary! Please comment ! Thank you !
Are you related to the famous Dr. Perlmutter?
Wait that isn’t me? :p
Have also heard similar things said about Choline. What about Choline? Have you ever tried that?
Creatine monohydrate powder upsets my stomach. Any thoughts on Creatine HCL capsules?
I take 9g a day. Will I survive until my next autumn?
😂
Unfortunately, as a senior whose metabolism has slowed, Creatine causes me to pack on up to 7 lbs.
In another video the Dr explained that it causes your muscles to hydrate and that’s healthy for the muscles so that could be some or all of your weight gain.
Water
I have read water accumulation is temporary. The water eventually flushes
You look a lot like your dad .
Let's talk about kidney function, k? Please let me know what you decide Mr. Perlmutter, MD
Hi, i did discuss this in the video!
I'm going to think about taking Benadryl and Creatine together as a personal experiment, perhaps they were meant to be taken together.
You wouldnt happen to be David Perlmutters son?
I would
He’s a younger version 😎.
does creatine help the parkinson brain? advanced pd
Hindi m batao sir
WARNING: I was hospitalized with one dose of Creatine
Horrific pain made chemotherapy look easy.
If you have any kidney issues, even minor ones, it will cause screaming out loud agony.
This supplement is dangerous and can kill you. Spoke with a gent who's father died of it as well.
FDA failed us terribly.
It's appalling to see so many folks touting such a dangerous substance.
Sorry to have to say it but it was the most terrible pain I've ever experienced as a stage 4 cancer survivor. I know pain but this, worse than dentists, child birth and chemo combined. Fine one moment, took a single dose and was in the emergency room in 20 minutes.
A truly nightmarish experience.
Sorry to hear that happened to you. Sounds awful.
@@whatupdunThank you kindly. Hopefully it won't happen to anyone else. Cheers and best 😊
When experimenting with a new supplement, I start with 1/4 -1/2 the recommended dose.
Synthetic Creatine Monohydrate does not sound like a supplement for me.
Natural source, maybe yes.
Rather consume more fish, meat....
Agreed, natural sources and baby step doses.
Although Creatine will definitely inform you about any kidney damage you may have right quick.
@@dianamariewells1437you are just talking nonsense.
Anyone with half a brain would know that you made this shit up
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gave me kidney stones
Go on a carnivore diet. Use butter instead of oil unless it like olive oil
keto diet is just diet... It doesn't treat kidney stones ...
That sounds squirrel man. I’m so sorry Nana did it hurt really bad. I’ve never had stones. I don’t know. Do you think it was your diet?
Doubtful
How much were you taking a day?
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Lion's mane is also good for the brain.
Some data on that yes!