I shoot Federal probably 85-90% of the time for that reason, though not always syntech, but the syntech rounds do run cleaner and cooler. You just have to get used to the little purple or red flecks of jacket when you're cleaning.
@@billvill61 Yep, I always run Syntech too for keeping the barrel cool and accurate with rapid fire at target practice. That's probably even more important in a self-defense situation, so I'll actually be carrying these instead of HST from now on. Fragmenting rounds are also proven to incapacitate quicker than one bullet can, on average. In that way this is like a "poor man's shotgun" that can be carried in the pocket. 👍👍
I agree, they performed as advertised. But I did not see anything to convince me to move away from Federal HST or Hornady Critical Defense, thanks for the testing.👍
Check out Underwood Xtreme Defense if you want to see something that will move you away from Federal HST or Hornady Critical Duty or Speer Gold Dot....
@@wcoonradt264 the round is impressive on paper and in tests but i’ve never seen any real life proof that such a light round is worth switching from gold dots with decades of proof behind it.
I love these rounds, used to carry them all the time in my Beretta 92fs, now i carry them in my tisas 45 acp. Unfortunately, they're hard to find nowadays online with the exception of Optics planet and a few others. I found my 45 variant of the ammo in a gun shop, just one lone box of them. I'm now looking to buy more, as I'm pretty much out sadly except one magazine full. Feed great and reliably in my 1911. Cheap too! Will probably get HST rounds if I can't find them in person... and wait for online.
Not a big fan of segmenting rounds. However, of all the segmenting/fragmenting rounds that you have tested, these are the most consistent, deepest penetrating in a straight line, and best performing in the gel. So giving credit where it's due, Federal did an excellent job of designing this ammo. I would use this in my Taurus G3 in a heartbeat.
One thing to keep in my mind with these rounds. Some people have lived through a head shot before. However I highly doubt anybody would survive a head shot from one of these.
@@thebluesrockers Is there any testing on the effectiveness of these versus traditional JHP? I can't imagine there is any data on it. These do look impressive though, but I think I would stick to the regular JHP until I hear about some data showing these are more effective.
@@mplslawnguy3389 All ammo can be lethal. some say that fragmentation causes less damage, and other people state that it has a better chance of not over penetrating. A shot gun is like a bunch of fragmenting partials but there's a lot more powder in a shotgun, shell. not to mention the length of the barrel. I would say at close range it would be an awesome round on a human. However, a JHP will be the best choice in most situations, in my humble opinion. You're watching the best ammo tester on You Tube. so I'd say to agree with him is always going to be good. But like I stated, "At close range they may do more damage to someone. But if you were to shoot a bear in self defense, you'd probably end up being his dinner. hahaha.. Peace.. Joe
@@thebluesrockers I just found his channel, great content and I would feel comfortable taking his recommendations. There are so many blowhards on youtube it's hard to sift through it all. JHP seems like the best way to go. Not a fan of bears lol, I've been a little too close a few times. I have seen a video on here where a 9mm was effective in a moose attack however, so I'd rather have something than nothing in a bear attack.
@@lizzardwizard2000Finding the fragments isn’t so much the issue. However, successfully stopping the bleeding created by the multiple fragments n enough time certainty IS.
@randyhavard6084 Why would you even contemplate being a dirty, filthy liar about something no one else would ever wanna lie about? It doesn’t need a qualifier. Speak like a triple digit IQ mastermind. And don’t apologize for being smart, IF you are.
@@raympndlandareastapkp7616Not that you asked me, but I'm pretty sure if you're pale, believe in God, or remotely look like you'll vote for Trump it's not going to matter what ammo you used to defend yourself.
These seem to be the latest reincarnation of the S&W/Federal Nyclad ammo of years past. This test impressed me enough to look further into it. Very good review.
I once wanted to carry R.I.P. rounds. But If I'd ever had to shoot someone in self defense, the thought of a hostile overly zealous prosecutor trying to make me out to be looking to murder someone, was to daunting. At least these Syntech rounds aren't "scary looking", and aren't named like some "Killer Round".
Truth, these are factory rounds from the nation's largest ammo manufacturer called "Syntech DEFENSE" and colored blue. Big difference to a jury versus "R.I.P. specialized killer ammo".
@@OldMisterthing I like about the rip ammo is the non penetrating power as I live in apartments and I don’t have to worry about strays hitting neighbors if that was to ever arise
Prosecutors don’t use your choice of ammo against you if your gun is legal. They literally can’t. It’s funny tho how you all automatically assume do just cuz you heard other people saying it. I never ever seen a district attorney use the choice of ammo as an excuse to further prosecute someone. And I’ve seen a dozen people charged with ILLEGAL GUNS AND SHOOTINGS!!
I shot a 275 pound feral hog with 1 of these in 9mm and it literally liquefied the chest cavity and the base was under the skin on the other side...they are $11 for a box of 20 and they perform better than any hollowpoint ive seen.
That is a bonus I think right? After watching more of the video I’m wondering if the spread factor would be a bad thing maybe? If something spreads off and hits the wrong thing.
@@aaronjenkins223 haha I mean I definitely get it. After watching more the spread factor doesn’t seeem to bad. I was just thinking if it hit a bystander
I test those years ago . They worked great but hard to beat the hst in barrier performance but they worked well and creating different wound channels is impressive!
Amazingly consistent velocities, and impressive results. The segments went deeper than similar rounds. Haven’t tried any, definitely will keep an eye out for it. Thanks for another jelly test Tools!
Never been a big fan of segmenting ammo, but that ammo appears as though it might be effective...85gr penetrating 18 inches is very good, and those 3 segments going 9 inches would definitely add to the hurt...as someone else noted, it gives each round 3 more chances to hit a vital area...we're thrilled when buckshot spreads inside a target, and maybe that is how these rounds should be considered...
@@eriklambert3809 lol...! and I agree that buckshot only going 9 inches would be horrible, but remember the core of this round, the 85gr piece, went 18 inches, which is just fine...the 3 segments doing the 9 inches are icing on the cake...and going in 3 different directions...out of a slow 138gr 9mm bullet that is near remarkable...folks always want more out of a finite system, my example is my wallet...
Performance isn't all that bad, I guess they do what they are supposed to do, but I think for the price better defense loads can be had. Your ammo testing has sure saved me a lot of money over time, glad you do what you do for sure!
Another great video. A lot of folks (it seems you included) seem to get hung up on the amount of mushrooming a bullet has and also the permanent stretch cavity. Permanent stretch cavity is good for making blood trails and (ultimately) killing an aggressor but for ending the fight immediately, one needs a CNS hit. The 'only' way to do this is to hit the spine or the brain. This round gives a 400% increased chance of hitting a spine in a torso hit. If one of those fragments clips the spine, the fight is over. Comparing apples to oranges - permanent wound cavity - this round creates 4 wound cavities that seem to spread out in a 90 degree cone. In ten years, after some of these have been used in defensive shootings, I'm sure that we will find that they did the job (instant incapacitation) much better than standard hollowpoints.
Great eval man! No doubt impressive design and consistent. No failures, no jams a great start. A nasty round throwing curve ball segments. Good speed in short barrel.
It’s a very interesting round still gets really good penetration and with as far as those 3 petals all go you could get some destruction on other vitals that may have been missed by main slug
@@robaldridge6505 exactly I’ve always liked the idea of these types of rounds for all those reasons but wasn’t comfortable with so little penetration as previous versions had but these seem to have solved that
This has been my go to rounds for 9mms, especially for shorter barrels where you never know if even the best hollow points are going to expand or not. It seems hard not to hit an important organ with a bullet and 3 mini bullets. Also love HSTs and carry them in my 40.
Thank you for this test. You've done the best test of this round that I've seen anywhere on YT. Very informative. I recently bought 100 rounds of this at a decent price and with your test I'm now more confident of how it will perform out of my full size guns.
Wow! Neat! Thanks a lot for testing this ammo and making a video of it because I have three boxes of this stuff and I wondered if it was any good and now I know. Outstanding testing and recording by the way. I love Federal ammunition! Federal does everything right. They make the best ammunition for defense and for hunting and the neatest ammunition to. Federal Syntech is my favorite ammo to use in my pistols for target shooting. Federal HST is still number one for 9mm defense ammo in my book followed by Speer Gold Dot but I put this ammo just below HST and Gold Dot so this is really good defense ammo in my opinion.
Impressed that it preformed as claimed. Don't really see it doing anything better than some of the other good preforming ammo you have tested. Very interesting and great content as always .
I find myself watching more and more of your videos. Thanks for getting the real performance on rounds for the rest of us. I always learn something from your videos.
That was a very informative review and I really like your new Chronograph. After watching the gel test results I wouldn't hesitate to carry these for self-defense, especially how they performed in the short barrel test.
Very interesting how well this 9mm Syntech Defense did while the .45 ACP version completely failed your test. **WOULD LOVE TO SEE SOME .40 S&W SYNTECH DEFENSE TESTING TO SETTLE THE SCORE!** Love the channel, thanks for getting all this info out there!
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It's a late Saturday night/early Sunday morning, have a headache and can't sleep but I was pleased to find this smurf test 😉 I sure like your videos, it's you, Paul Harrell and Military Arms channel at the top of my list of favorites. 👍🤓
So , funny thing, i have these in my Glock 26 , not because i thought they were special , but I got them during the pandemic when this was all the 9mm they had that day. I saw your ammo hunt video a couple weeks ago showing these and thought oh boy here we go. Anyway I didn't see anything here that has me pressed to shoot them on my next range trip just to switch them out. Im like you , I probably wouldn't buy them if the normal choices were available , but you could do worse than these I think. Thanks for the test!
Interesting test, thanks again. I really appreciate you putting in the time and effort to create these videos, I cannot do these test myself living in an urban area, so I really appreciate guys like you doing the work for me. Stay safe.
@@brianmcsorley3229 I haven't run enough of em to notice anything funny, but I wouldn't think polymer shedding would be near as big of a concern as a bare lead round.🤷♂
These are impressive fragmenting(or segmenting) bullets. Especially for a smaller caliber like 9mm. They fragmented and then the center went well past the 12" minimum. The segments went a considerable way into the gel also. Plus, the name might be less damaging to your legal defense if you ever needed to rely on them(compared to something like RIP.) The price is much better than Liberty Civil Defense and G2 RIP. It looks like Federal created another winner. 👍
I’ve had a box of these sitting in my safe for about 5 to 10 years maybe longer and I’ve been looking for reviews on them and I haven’t found anything. Thank you thank you thank you thank you.❤ I have these in hollow points to I’d be curious to see those tests
I can't recall seeing a gel test done on these anywhere, (not saying they don't exist) but these perform very nicely. ...I'm happy with that segmenting performance.
Nice!! That was the most consistent ammo you’ve tested in a while. Very good performance for a segmenting lead round. Didn’t care a thing about the heavy clothing. Great test as always my friend 👍🇺🇸
Appreciate you for running this test. When you got them, my comment was that I’d be surprised if they didn’t hit 1100 out of a 3.1 I missed it by a little and I am surprised I run them through an OG Ruger LC9 hammer fired and they kick like a government mule. I will run them til I’m out of the 150 I bought for sure. The petals go a little further than I thought they would. That’s a lot of energy dumped at ~4”
Federal knows bullets after all they made the hst and that is the best overall cup core hp ever made to date, velocity is great on those. Looks good those petals would do something at that size.Good detailed job you did here.
Very interesting stuff. They did perform as advertised. Overpenetration? Maybe not if they hit bone, and then perform in a totally different way. I gues the only way to tell would be a Clear Ballistics dummy torso, or stick a thin piece of wood between the cloth and the gel.
If I were wanting to run segmenting rounds, these would be at the top of the list if accuracy was acceptable. That straight line deeper penetration is a plus in my humble opinion.
Great test. I have been looking for a test of these. I wish you tested them on bare gel as well as the heavy clothing. Pretty impressive performance and sharp edge main projectile.
@@ToolsandTargets but thinking a bit, these would be no bueno for ANY sort of barricade, and then IF you worry about over penetration, where do those 3 little chunks go if you hit a arm or leg ? they're gonna exit with enough juice to penetrate.
Reasonably impressed.with the consistency of this fragmenting round. I do have a couple of boxes and they aew loaded into my Glock 26. Definitely good to know the degree of penetration that these rounds deliver. Great test! Thank you!
I’m excited about this one because I actually have a couple of boxes. I wasn’t sure if it would really perform, but it clearly does. Seems like a good carry option now that I have seen the results. I’m not sure there are any other gel tests on RUclips for these rounds
It does give some leeway when shot placement is less than ideal. Shot placement that would have otherwise missed vitals with a standard JHP might still clip the heart, liver, lungs and whatnot with these rounds. Might even clip several vitals, being we have 4 different wound paths, accelerating bleeding and thus incapacitation. I do have a few boxes of these I purchased well before this video, but I still prefer the tried and true HST (and even Golden Saber Bonded JHPs in some applications, such as out of my PSA AK-V and CX4 Storm).
Same thinking process. Higher chance of hitting multiple arteries, organs and muscle. You have the 3 petals spread to expedite internal bleeding and the center core create a 4th hole for other potential organs/bone. Which looks to have some barrier penetration when/if needed. The center core seems to be almost the size of a jhp .45 before expansion 😮 If worried about penetration the Hornady does make rounds with less power for less penetration
Interesting stuff. Basically mimics what many copper bullets are designed to do. Would love to hear from a trauma surgeon how the terminal ballistics compare to a fully expanding JHP like the HST
I'd think having to dig around for extra segments couldn't be optimal for any doctor...and I gotta believe those extra wound tracks, although pretty thin, would create extra bleeding to be chased down...
The fact is the surgeons can’t tell the difference from the 9mm to a 45. This information is rarely known. The reason the F.B.I. went back to the 9mm is the newer ammunition is basically the same or even better than the best .45 available. This ammunition is around a few years, data on it being used in shootings might be around. Mas Ayoob usually has that information.
@@boostimalaka1 the FBI switching back to 9x19 is real can of worms. I still believe the true reason was money and inclusiveness towards smaller framed officers 😁. On the effect on flesh, as a hunter I can tell you that my 600 ft-lb 357 Sig does something different than a 300 ft-lb 9x19. A 400 ft-lb 9x19 vs. a 400 ft-lb .45 ACP…yes that will be more marginal And to come back to the video, this fracturing ammo creates very different wound channels than a classic JHP. I think it is Roulette to hit something critical with those small light paddles while the actual wound channel is way reduced.
Wow! I'm impressed! These are the kinda rounds if you ever are in a situation where you don't have time to make a perfect aim. These fragmented pieces are gonna hit something vital in the body that will eliminate the threat...
I'd carry it. That terminal chunk was definitely not a "disc" or a "pill," like with those light segmenting rounds, and the penetration was ideal, likely to leave two holes then chill out.
Tools, I've been waiting for this video since I saw these rounds in your ammo score video. I bought a box of 20 a while back and I wish I would have bought another box. Dang. I tell you what buddy, send me what you have left over in the box. Hahaha. Keep up the good work buddy, you're still my favorite RUclipsr.
Another good test brother. I've have never seen this ammo before and when it comes to Federal in 9mm I use HST but this stuff did pretty good. Very consistent velocities. I'm also not a fan of the fragmenting rounds but these seem better than most.
🇦🇺😎👍Good morning Sir. I brought 100 rds of them badboys and I was wondering how they’d go…I just checked the price , $30.20/20 , pretty expensive and I brought them 3 years ago…yep they’d definitely mess up your day . Looks like they’d tear up the vitals…bleed to death 💀….wow I was hoping they wouldn’t be shit but thanks to you I’m very impressed. Great results mate….. put it this way , I wouldn’t want to be the target🤔….great test Brian , great science , thankyou Sir …. Personally I’d prefer the Winchester Rangers next time🏁
Nice balance of substantial damage from the multiple (albeit shallower) wound tracks yet still enough penetration from the core to ensure you get deep enough to stop the threat quickly. I'd carry these any day, but I've always been a fan of Federal Ammo.
These are some interesting rounds. The gimmicky rounds don't always perform well (looking at you R.I.P.), but these look like a decent option as long as they aren't too pricey. Also love that you're repping the Cleeter straw hat. Hell yeah brother!
You know I'm really not a fan of these segmenting rounds but I'd like to see somebody do a comparative gel test with like rip Underwood doing Lehigh defenses Controlled Chaos 9 mil the federal and just see who comes out on top and where you're at ballistic Leaf it makes sense to carry
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Advertised accurately. Says a lot for the manufacturer being honest.
Absolutely. 😎👍
I shoot Federal probably 85-90% of the time for that reason, though not always syntech, but the syntech rounds do run cleaner and cooler. You just have to get used to the little purple or red flecks of jacket when you're cleaning.
@@billvill61 Yep, I always run Syntech too for keeping the barrel cool and accurate with rapid fire at target practice. That's probably even more important in a self-defense situation, so I'll actually be carrying these instead of HST from now on. Fragmenting rounds are also proven to incapacitate quicker than one bullet can, on average. In that way this is like a "poor man's shotgun" that can be carried in the pocket. 👍👍
My go to for testing giving us data on some of the coolest stuff on the market, thanks Tool!
Appreciate that!😎👊
I agree, they performed as advertised. But I did not see anything to convince me to move away from Federal HST or Hornady Critical Defense, thanks for the testing.👍
Yeah I'd run em, but not seek em out. 😎👊
Check out Underwood Xtreme Defense if you want to see something that will move you away from Federal HST or Hornady Critical Duty or Speer Gold Dot....
@@wcoonradt264 the round is impressive on paper and in tests but i’ve never seen any real life proof that such a light round is worth switching from gold dots with decades of proof behind it.
I love these rounds, used to carry them all the time in my Beretta 92fs, now i carry them in my tisas 45 acp. Unfortunately, they're hard to find nowadays online with the exception of Optics planet and a few others. I found my 45 variant of the ammo in a gun shop, just one lone box of them. I'm now looking to buy more, as I'm pretty much out sadly except one magazine full. Feed great and reliably in my 1911. Cheap too! Will probably get HST rounds if I can't find them in person... and wait for online.
I should mention I ran out of them for my 92 and switched back to the proven Golden Sabers
Not a big fan of segmenting rounds. However, of all the segmenting/fragmenting rounds that you have tested, these are the most consistent, deepest penetrating in a straight line, and best performing in the gel. So giving credit where it's due, Federal did an excellent job of designing this ammo. I would use this in my Taurus G3 in a heartbeat.
Agreed.😎👍
One thing to keep in my mind with these rounds. Some people have lived through a head shot before. However I highly doubt anybody would survive a head shot from one of these.
@@thebluesrockers Is there any testing on the effectiveness of these versus traditional JHP? I can't imagine there is any data on it. These do look impressive though, but I think I would stick to the regular JHP until I hear about some data showing these are more effective.
@@mplslawnguy3389 All ammo can be lethal. some say that fragmentation causes less damage, and other people state that it has a better chance of not over penetrating.
A shot gun is like a bunch of fragmenting partials but there's a lot more powder in a shotgun, shell. not to mention the length of the barrel. I would say at close range it would be an awesome round on a human. However, a JHP will be the best choice in most situations, in my humble opinion. You're watching the best ammo tester on You Tube. so I'd say to agree with him is always going to be good. But like I stated, "At close range they may do more damage to someone.
But if you were to shoot a bear in self defense, you'd probably end up being his dinner. hahaha.. Peace.. Joe
@@thebluesrockers I just found his channel, great content and I would feel comfortable taking his recommendations. There are so many blowhards on youtube it's hard to sift through it all. JHP seems like the best way to go. Not a fan of bears lol, I've been a little too close a few times. I have seen a video on here where a 9mm was effective in a moose attack however, so I'd rather have something than nothing in a bear attack.
This would be a nightmare for surgeons to find and remove these segments.
Why? We have X-ray photography…
@@lizzardwizard2000Finding the fragments isn’t so much the issue. However, successfully stopping the bleeding created by the multiple fragments n enough time certainty IS.
Unless they are causing continued damage I leave them.
Depends if they are paid by the hour.
Not going to lie, I'm pretty impressed with those results
For what they are, me too.
You and me both, but not enough to switch from HST, lol
@randyhavard6084 Why would you even contemplate being a dirty, filthy liar about something no one else would ever wanna lie about?
It doesn’t need a qualifier. Speak like a triple digit IQ mastermind.
And don’t apologize for being smart, IF you are.
@@ToolsandTargetshey sir could you do a Underwood xtp 147gr 9mm test? And do 147gr could be used against you in court?
@@raympndlandareastapkp7616Not that you asked me, but I'm pretty sure if you're pale, believe in God, or remotely look like you'll vote for Trump it's not going to matter what ammo you used to defend yourself.
These seem to be the latest reincarnation of the S&W/Federal Nyclad ammo of years past. This test impressed me enough to look further into it. Very good review.
I've still got a box of those too!
Nyclad projectiles were soft lead and would mushroom nicely rather than fracturing. Both have a coating to prevent leading.
I once wanted to carry R.I.P. rounds. But If I'd ever had to shoot someone in self defense, the thought of a hostile overly zealous prosecutor trying to make me out to be looking to murder someone, was to daunting. At least these Syntech rounds aren't "scary looking", and aren't named like some "Killer Round".
Truth, these are factory rounds from the nation's largest ammo manufacturer called "Syntech DEFENSE" and colored blue. Big difference to a jury versus "R.I.P. specialized killer ammo".
@@OldMisterthing I like about the rip ammo is the non penetrating power as I live in apartments and I don’t have to worry about strays hitting neighbors if that was to ever arise
Prosecutors don’t use your choice of ammo against you if your gun is legal. They literally can’t. It’s funny tho how you all automatically assume do just cuz you heard other people saying it. I never ever seen a district attorney use the choice of ammo as an excuse to further prosecute someone. And I’ve seen a dozen people charged with ILLEGAL GUNS AND SHOOTINGS!!
I shot a 275 pound feral hog with 1 of these in 9mm and it literally liquefied the chest cavity and the base was under the skin on the other side...they are $11 for a box of 20 and they perform better than any hollowpoint ive seen.
Exactly! When you know you know! Beyond Seclusion channel has tested these extensively, and killed hogs with them.
What doesn't register to a lot of people is that these rounds create FOUR wound cavities each.
4 times as likely to pierce a vital, even with a poorly placed shot.
That did not register to me until you said it. Thanks. I haven’t watched the whole thing yet.
That is a bonus I think right? After watching more of the video I’m wondering if the spread factor would be a bad thing maybe? If something spreads off and hits the wrong thing.
@@Taskoism it's a bonus in my book lol
@@aaronjenkins223 haha I mean I definitely get it. After watching more the spread factor doesn’t seeem to bad. I was just thinking if it hit a bystander
Stay with the clothing barrier it gives you a true test.
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Agreed.. we know if it performs in the heavy clothing its good to go. It'd a worst case scenario
I test those years ago . They worked great but hard to beat the hst in barrier performance but they worked well and creating different wound channels is impressive!
Yep
Amazingly consistent velocities, and impressive results. The segments went deeper than similar rounds. Haven’t tried any, definitely will keep an eye out for it. Thanks for another jelly test Tools!
The consistency was impressive.
Those Smurf rounds are pretty impressive Tools 👊🇺🇸
Not bad at all.😎👍
These rounds seem to be effective in theory and in the gel . And like you said , "if this is the ammo I've got , I'd use it" . Thanks!
Appreciate that!😎👊
Never been a big fan of segmenting ammo, but that ammo appears as though it might be effective...85gr penetrating 18 inches is very good, and those 3 segments going 9 inches would definitely add to the hurt...as someone else noted, it gives each round 3 more chances to hit a vital area...we're thrilled when buckshot spreads inside a target, and maybe that is how these rounds should be considered...
Very true.😎👍
But we're not thrilled when buckshot only goes 9". 😮💨
@@MeMadeItmy wife isn't thrilled with only 9" either🤣
@@eriklambert3809 lol...! and I agree that buckshot only going 9 inches would be horrible, but remember the core of this round, the 85gr piece, went 18 inches, which is just fine...the 3 segments doing the 9 inches are icing on the cake...and going in 3 different directions...out of a slow 138gr 9mm bullet that is near remarkable...folks always want more out of a finite system, my example is my wallet...
One of these rounds could easily perforate heart both lungs and the liver.
Very cool. The purple 147-grain ones are my favorite for steel plate shooting. The red 150-grain ones are great too.
Just ordered both 💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽
That's what I have the red snyntec 150g ones 😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁
Performance isn't all that bad, I guess they do what they are supposed to do, but I think for the price better defense loads can be had. Your ammo testing has sure saved me a lot of money over time, glad you do what you do for sure!
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Bought red lipsticks but never saw these anywhere
Another great video. A lot of folks (it seems you included) seem to get hung up on the amount of mushrooming a bullet has and also the permanent stretch cavity. Permanent stretch cavity is good for making blood trails and (ultimately) killing an aggressor but for ending the fight immediately, one needs a CNS hit. The 'only' way to do this is to hit the spine or the brain. This round gives a 400% increased chance of hitting a spine in a torso hit. If one of those fragments clips the spine, the fight is over. Comparing apples to oranges - permanent wound cavity - this round creates 4 wound cavities that seem to spread out in a 90 degree cone. In ten years, after some of these have been used in defensive shootings, I'm sure that we will find that they did the job (instant incapacitation) much better than standard hollowpoints.
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Fair point...
I've wanted these to be in stock for years
I've never seen em locally.
I waited 10 months to get 2 boxes
Selway Armoury Missoula Montana $15 per 20...
@LRO1986 I remember that. I bought a few boxes but never tried them out.
Wow, surprisingly good results for fragmenting ammo. Really impressed
Yep
Great eval man! No doubt impressive design and consistent. No failures, no jams a great start. A nasty round throwing curve ball segments. Good speed in short barrel.
Appreciate that!😎👊
It’s a very interesting round still gets really good penetration and with as far as those 3 petals all go you could get some destruction on other vitals that may have been missed by main slug
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or at least 3 more 'vents' to let more blood out.
@@robaldridge6505 exactly I’ve always liked the idea of these types of rounds for all those reasons but wasn’t comfortable with so little penetration as previous versions had but these seem to have solved that
This has been my go to rounds for 9mms, especially for shorter barrels where you never know if even the best hollow points are going to expand or not. It seems hard not to hit an important organ with a bullet and 3 mini bullets. Also love HSTs and carry them in my 40.
Those preformed better than I was expecting
Just as advertised. I'm sold. Thank you.
Thank you for this test. You've done the best test of this round that I've seen anywhere on YT. Very informative. I recently bought 100 rounds of this at a decent price and with your test I'm now more confident of how it will perform out of my full size guns.
Nice to see they work as advertised...now we just have to get the rest of the manufacturer’s on board!👍🏼
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Wow! Neat! Thanks a lot for testing this ammo and making a video of it because I have three boxes of this stuff and I wondered if it was any good and now I know. Outstanding testing and recording by the way. I love Federal ammunition! Federal does everything right. They make the best ammunition for defense and for hunting and the neatest ammunition to. Federal Syntech is my favorite ammo to use in my pistols for target shooting. Federal HST is still number one for 9mm defense ammo in my book followed by Speer Gold Dot but I put this ammo just below HST and Gold Dot so this is really good defense ammo in my opinion.
I've carried these in a backpack smg for years. Glad to finally see them in action. Thanks buddy, great informative videos for the ballistics guys!!!
You're definitely well-armed if you have these in a SMG.
Impressed that it preformed as claimed. Don't really see it doing anything better than some of the other good preforming ammo you have tested. Very interesting and great content as always .
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BEST 9mm Self-Defense Round? - Federal Syntech Defense on Beyond Seclusion channel
see this in real action. impressive
I find myself watching more and more of your videos. Thanks for getting the real performance on rounds for the rest of us. I always learn something from your videos.
These look much like the old Federal Nyclad rounds, except the original Nyclads were not segmented.
The amount information and way it’s given is phenomenal thank you 🙏🏾
That was a very informative review and I really like your new Chronograph. After watching the gel test results I wouldn't hesitate to carry these for self-defense, especially how they performed in the short barrel test.
these are hard to find, I used to see 'em on the shelf every now and then before 2020, but now you can forget about it
Very interesting how well this 9mm Syntech Defense did while the .45 ACP version completely failed your test.
**WOULD LOVE TO SEE SOME .40 S&W SYNTECH DEFENSE TESTING TO SETTLE THE SCORE!**
Love the channel, thanks for getting all this info out there!
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It's a late Saturday night/early Sunday morning, have a headache and can't sleep but I was pleased to find this smurf test 😉
I sure like your videos, it's you, Paul Harrell and Military Arms channel at the top of my list of favorites.
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Been waiting for this one since the ammo hunt video from a few weeks ago
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So , funny thing, i have these in my Glock 26 , not because i thought they were special , but I got them during the pandemic when this was all the 9mm they had that day. I saw your ammo hunt video a couple weeks ago showing these and thought oh boy here we go. Anyway I didn't see anything here that has me pressed to shoot them on my next range trip just to switch them out. Im like you , I probably wouldn't buy them if the normal choices were available , but you could do worse than these I think. Thanks for the test!
Yessir. I'd leave em loaded up.😎👍
As well as these performed today, there are plenty which are worse. These look like ideal manstoppers for this caliber IMHO.
Interesting test, thanks again. I really appreciate you putting in the time and effort to create these videos, I cannot do these test myself living in an urban area, so I really appreciate guys like you doing the work for me. Stay safe.
Those would do some serious damage, great test, thanks for sharing
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That's pretty consistent ammo. I'm impressed.
Yep
These are my go-to 9mm round. Great test as usual. Thanks.
Confirms my opinion.
What's Up, Tool ? You're ALWAYS out there at the range !
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@@ToolsandTargets - I wonder how those projectiles do fired through a polygonal barrel . Any reason not to ?
@@brianmcsorley3229 I haven't run enough of em to notice anything funny, but I wouldn't think polymer shedding would be near as big of a concern as a bare lead round.🤷♂
@@ToolsandTargets - Think you're right , that polymer is made to be slick ,isn't it ?
@@brianmcsorley3229 I believe so.
These are impressive fragmenting(or segmenting) bullets. Especially for a smaller caliber like 9mm. They fragmented and then the center went well past the 12" minimum. The segments went a considerable way into the gel also. Plus, the name might be less damaging to your legal defense if you ever needed to rely on them(compared to something like RIP.) The price is much better than Liberty Civil Defense and G2 RIP. It looks like Federal created another winner. 👍
These are way more affordable
I actually carried these in my G19 for about 2 years. I wanted to change up my ammo to federal hst but i still have them! Dandy bullets.
Thanks for the review on these. I'm gonna pick up a couple boxes of these when i come across them.
Bro these look like devastating rounds.
I’ve had a box of these sitting in my safe for about 5 to 10 years maybe longer and I’ve been looking for reviews on them and I haven’t found anything. Thank you thank you thank you thank you.❤ I have these in hollow points to I’d be curious to see those tests
I like them. Impressive! Awesome content brother!
Thank you sir.😎👊
Good to see this works on a shorted barrel for edc. I just watched another video where his Syntech did not segment into petals
I can't recall seeing a gel test done on these anywhere, (not saying they don't exist) but these perform very nicely. ...I'm happy with that segmenting performance.
Pretty cool stuff. Plus, you get style points for them being blue!💥😎💥
Thanks, Mr. T&T, for testing the "Smurf" 9mm defense ammo!
Nice!! That was the most consistent ammo you’ve tested in a while. Very good performance for a segmenting lead round. Didn’t care a thing about the heavy clothing. Great test as always my friend 👍🇺🇸
I was surprised for sure.😎👊
These are my carry rounds, Ever since I saw Tnoutdoors9 do a video on them years ago.
Good looking stuff.😎👍
Appreciate you for running this test. When you got them, my comment was that I’d be surprised if they didn’t hit 1100 out of a 3.1
I missed it by a little and I am surprised
I run them through an OG Ruger LC9 hammer fired and they kick like a government mule.
I will run them til I’m out of the 150 I bought for sure. The petals go a little further than I thought they would. That’s a lot of energy dumped at ~4”
Man I swear everytime I'm looking at a new ammo thinking about trying it out Tools puts a new video out on it Best channel out there
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Federal knows bullets after all they made the hst and that is the best overall cup core hp ever made to date, velocity is great on those. Looks good those petals would do something at that size.Good detailed job you did here.
I still would not want to stare down one of these Smurfs!...Thanks Tools.
Nope
Very interesting stuff. They did perform as advertised. Overpenetration? Maybe not if they hit bone, and then perform in a totally different way. I gues the only way to tell would be a Clear Ballistics dummy torso, or stick a thin piece of wood between the cloth and the gel.
Interesting stuff.
With 18" being the max for ideal penetration and this round falling short of 19", my concerns regarding overpenetration would be low.
Hey Tools, interesting bullets. Awesome video! Keep up the good work Brother!!
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Thank you sir.😎👊
If I were wanting to run segmenting rounds, these would be at the top of the list if accuracy was acceptable. That straight line deeper penetration is a plus in my humble opinion.
Agreed
Always a good day when tools uplands.
Trying to get my mom to get one of them metas to carry. (She is a small woman 5ft tall).
I love this one.
I like the idea of segmenting. It seems as if you have a better chance of hitting something vital to stop the attack.
Great test. I have been looking for a test of these. I wish you tested them on bare gel as well as the heavy clothing. Pretty impressive performance and sharp edge main projectile.
I just had to watch this one again. Atleast this is one bullet design that actually works as its supposed too!
darn, that's about the same as a .380 PLUS 3 pellets of #4 buck .. I'm going to get some for the carbine..
my EDC load is Hornady Critical Duty 135 std. press. I like 'heavier' bullets
Yeah, I like that they kept with a heavier weight with these.
@@ToolsandTargets but thinking a bit, these would be no bueno for ANY sort of barricade, and then IF you worry about over penetration, where do those 3 little chunks go if you hit a arm or leg ? they're gonna exit with enough juice to penetrate.
It would be interesting to see how far the core and the fragments go in gel after being fired from a carbine barrel.
I got some of those about in 2019.... They're some good rounds to have....
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Reasonably impressed.with the consistency of this fragmenting round. I do have a couple of boxes and they aew loaded into my Glock 26. Definitely good to know the degree of penetration that these rounds deliver. Great test! Thank you!
I’m excited about this one because I actually have a couple of boxes. I wasn’t sure if it would really perform, but it clearly does. Seems like a good carry option now that I have seen the results. I’m not sure there are any other gel tests on RUclips for these rounds
tnoutdoors has one on his channel. Same sku as tools I believe
The primer is lead free right?
So would yall choose these over the hornady critical defense?
It does give some leeway when shot placement is less than ideal. Shot placement that would have otherwise missed vitals with a standard JHP might still clip the heart, liver, lungs and whatnot with these rounds. Might even clip several vitals, being we have 4 different wound paths, accelerating bleeding and thus incapacitation.
I do have a few boxes of these I purchased well before this video, but I still prefer the tried and true HST (and even Golden Saber Bonded JHPs in some applications, such as out of my PSA AK-V and CX4 Storm).
Same thinking process. Higher chance of hitting multiple arteries, organs and muscle.
You have the 3 petals spread to expedite internal bleeding and the center core create a 4th hole for other potential organs/bone. Which looks to have some barrier penetration when/if needed. The center core seems to be almost the size of a jhp .45 before expansion 😮
If worried about penetration the Hornady does make rounds with less power for less penetration
Interesting stuff. Basically mimics what many copper bullets are designed to do.
Would love to hear from a trauma surgeon how the terminal ballistics compare to a fully expanding JHP like the HST
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I'd think having to dig around for extra segments couldn't be optimal for any doctor...and I gotta believe those extra wound tracks, although pretty thin, would create extra bleeding to be chased down...
The fact is the surgeons can’t tell the difference from the 9mm to a 45. This information is rarely known. The reason the F.B.I. went back to the 9mm is the newer ammunition is basically the same or even better than the best .45 available.
This ammunition is around a few years, data on it being used in shootings might be around. Mas Ayoob usually has that information.
@@boostimalaka1 the FBI switching back to 9x19 is real can of worms. I still believe the true reason was money and inclusiveness towards smaller framed officers 😁.
On the effect on flesh, as a hunter I can tell you that my 600 ft-lb 357 Sig does something different than a 300 ft-lb 9x19. A 400 ft-lb 9x19 vs. a 400 ft-lb .45 ACP…yes that will be more marginal
And to come back to the video, this fracturing ammo creates very different wound channels than a classic JHP. I think it is Roulette to hit something critical with those small light paddles while the actual wound channel is way reduced.
Maybe test the 45 acp version if you can find them since so many 45 loads fail to expand
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Segmentation Sunday! Did well & about equal on both barrel lengths. Good color too. 😂
Your bullets have got to match your outfit! 💥🕺💥
@@ToolsandTargetsIf I ever get a Tools and Targets t-shirt what color ammo should I use? 😂😂
Wow! I'm impressed! These are the kinda rounds if you ever are in a situation where you don't have time to make a perfect aim. These fragmented pieces are gonna hit something vital in the body that will eliminate the threat...
Not to bad and they preformed good. Another great freedom seed test brother tools.
I'd carry it. That terminal chunk was definitely not a "disc" or a "pill," like with those light segmenting rounds, and the penetration was ideal, likely to leave two holes then chill out.
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These segments for once with pistol ammo went a decent length pretty nice
Surprised me.
Very interesting. cool Smurf bullets
Tools, I've been waiting for this video since I saw these rounds in your ammo score video. I bought a box of 20 a while back and I wish I would have bought another box. Dang. I tell you what buddy, send me what you have left over in the box. Hahaha. Keep up the good work buddy, you're still my favorite RUclipsr.
gotta get me a box now.. impressed!
Another good test brother. I've have never seen this ammo before and when it comes to Federal in 9mm I use HST but this stuff did pretty good. Very consistent velocities.
I'm also not a fan of the fragmenting rounds but these seem better than most.
Thank you sir. They did their thing.😎👍
Instant sub when i see actual data in your video. Nice.
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Not too bad. Great test as always, buddy. 👏 👏 👏
🇦🇺😎👍Good morning Sir. I brought 100 rds of them badboys and I was wondering how they’d go…I just checked the price , $30.20/20 , pretty expensive and I brought them 3 years ago…yep they’d definitely mess up your day . Looks like they’d tear up the vitals…bleed to death 💀….wow I was hoping they wouldn’t be shit but thanks to you I’m very impressed. Great results mate….. put it this way , I wouldn’t want to be the target🤔….great test Brian , great science , thankyou Sir …. Personally I’d prefer the Winchester Rangers next time🏁
Thank you sir. I was glad to see the weight of the chunk go out to 18 inches.😎👍
That's pretty impressive for a segmenting round. Most break apart too soon. These do great.
Federal knows how to make self defense rounds that's impressive for polymer
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Nice balance of substantial damage from the multiple (albeit shallower) wound tracks yet still enough penetration from the core to ensure you get deep enough to stop the threat quickly. I'd carry these any day, but I've always been a fan of Federal Ammo.
Thank you! I carry these, and im happy to see they do so well
Is it back. I've been waiting years for these to come back
Got em online a few weeks ago from Midway.
These are some interesting rounds. The gimmicky rounds don't always perform well (looking at you R.I.P.), but these look like a decent option as long as they aren't too pricey. Also love that you're repping the Cleeter straw hat. Hell yeah brother!
Looks like a pretty impressive round would be a good carry round.
Starting watching you channel a couple of months. Great channel. Subbed. And thank you
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Do you think a round like this would be better suited for .380, since expanding rounds generally are poor performers in .380?
Wouldn't be a bad option depending on the weight of em.
You know I'm really not a fan of these segmenting rounds but I'd like to see somebody do a comparative gel test with like rip Underwood doing Lehigh defenses Controlled Chaos 9 mil the federal and just see who comes out on top and where you're at ballistic Leaf it makes sense to carry
I actually looked at these last week happy to see them
Up on your channel if you ain’t vetted it I’m not running it hahaha
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Truth! I watch a couple other gel test channels too. I always jump back over here to verify their results.
I have used this channel for multiple amo review/ purchase decisions. Thank you for your time. Folks sign up n send this hard worker a crisp $5 a month for continued production! 🎥
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