The rule changes are what made the game grow. I’ve gone back and watched some old games from 2000-2004, and the speed of the game today is so much better.
It was a rough year, I was 19 years old but only really got into hockey a couple years ago previously, yet following hockey had become a full habit by then. Luckily, as a Canucks fan, we sent a bunch of notable players - Ryan Kesler first among them - to the AHL and I spent my time watching them and the CHL as well.
@@bangyahead1that’s fair. But i have a huge problem with ”fans” giving players shit for being ”greedy”, yet i never hear anyone giving owners shit for being greedy.
@@MrABN86 It's a constant mentality that I have had a problem with for 30 years. Partly due to the players being more visible, tangible (especially in SM era), etc. But fan(atics) are not known to be logical. Owners are the actual greedy ones, yet the players always get ripped for looking after their own best interests when most never get a second or big-time contract.
Yes get rid of the guy who made the league billions of dollars and is the reason the league is as amazing and skill focused as it is now lol. Way to go Bettman hater, keep hating on the only good commissioner/president the NHL has ever had.
@Jason.Takes.Manhattan Wow you are incredibly bitter my guy lmao. But the NHL and professional wrestling are at an all-time high for skill and athletic ability respectively. The 80s and 90s in the NHL was fun if you liked goals and no goals respectively, funny that you liked both eras consisting of guys non-stop getting concussions and them being laughed at on the highlight reel shows. If you like watching guys get hurt and dying 40 years before they should be then sure the 80s and 90s NHL *and* WWF are both for you I guess, but if you're like everyone watching the NHL now grandpa who loves watching for the skill and ability (even if I personally am not a fan of the flippy superkick fests I will respect the ability), that's clearly the reason it's making the most money. I'm pretty sure even if you adjust for inflation the NHL now is still making more money then it did in the boring ass game of the 90s cheap shots. The modern NHL is safe, it's fast, and it's the best goddamn league that has ever existed in any era of Hockey. You can be bitter all you want grandpa because your "rough 'em tough 'em" Hockey and Hogan/Warrior no real ability wrestling is all but a relic of the past like you are but let people enjoy the modern product of the respective sports all they want. There's old Hockey games and Wrestling matches online, go spend your days watching those or something just let real hockey fans enjoy the current product, because to me if you're skilled that's what matters on the ice. The goal scoring is what makes the NHL good, only difference is unlike in the 1980s, there's more than 4 goalies that are good and the rest are shitters that wouldn't even cut it in the 90s era of games ending 2-1 with final shots 21-17 lol.
@Jason.Takes.Manhattan No no no no no no bud lmao. Come on you blame Bettman for everything and you look like a dumbass lol. Those "dumb gimmicks" are not actually gimmicks, it's hard to remember but the shootouts when used in the ASG originally were actually seen as pretty cool and an interesting way to end a game, and the 3-on-3 OT is to make the game go faster which is again better for the play of the league! He is not why hockey moved from Quebec (which btw the Canadiens are still there lol) to Colorado, or why Arizona got the Jets. That should be placed on poor ownership from those teams, also funny how you say they moved from Canada to America where the big markets are yet they moved Atlanta which is a big market to a very small Canadian market in Winnipeg guess that didn't fit your narrative now did it bucko? Also I want to point out pretty sure Bettman doesn't have the final say of who moves where, I'm 99% sure that's put to an owner vote so the owners have to approve a move of which team to where and when expansion is done, Bettman isn't this complete overlord of the NHL like you seem to think he is lol. His salary cap ensuring we don't see another dynasty is doing EXACTLY what was wanted, fans didn't want to see another easy dynasty like the Oilers and Islanders had or the smart dynasties Montreal was constantly building, if we got a modern dynasty (Chicago) it was going to be earned and my god earned it was with 2010, 2013, and 2015. Clearly Bettman DOES care for the integrity of the game, why else would they strike out an entire season and when they came back in 05-06 not only were ticket sales through the goddamn roof even with almost every team having increased prices but the game was an overall better product to watch it was faster, it was more skilled focused, yes you still had enforcers and grinders but they were stuck on the 4th line with 7 minute ice times, not getting 2 minutes go out start a fight then you're done for the night that's not what Hockey is. You can say the game is pure trash if you want but I guarantee opening night you are going to keep watching like all the other has-beens and never-weres you're going to bitch and bitch and bitch but you "love" hockey too much to stop watching it, you're going to turn in to watch Connor McDavid and Trevor Zegras and Nathan MacKinnon show off all their pretty little dekes and be impressed every single time because that's what the old-timers do, they realize Gretzky and Messier could ever do that and only seen moves like that on Mario Lemieux who is the best player of all-time btw, clearly a league making money is a good league. That's why the WHA failed, it's why the XFL failed the first time in Football, it's why WCW failed after 1998, it's why every women's league until the one that is being created right now has failed (and this one probably won't), if people like your product they will buy shit. That's how basic economics works my friend. If you like something, more than likely you're going to want something to show you're a fan of a team rather it's a hat, a jersey, tickets to a game, season tickets if you're a crazed hardcore fan with that type of money, the NHL doesn't need people like you to watch yet you do because you're so simple you can't understand the NHL doesn't WANT you to watch lol.
Why in the world would the owners want to get rid of bettman? He won them the salary cap they wanted and got the league to a point where franchises value exploded.
I had no idea that player salaries were all the way up to 76% at that point, though the thing about the Penguins moving (potentially to Kansas City) is something that I was keenly aware of. While I won't break down everything about that CBA or the most recent one, I do believe some of the individual things in them are positives for the game. Salary cap being a hard cap tied to revenue, regardless of how it's split, is a move that makes sense, and, imo, is one of the reasons that the NHL has pretty good parity. Most teams (I'm so sorry Sabres fans, I really am, y'all deserve better) aren't that bad for that long, nor are they financially unteneable (Except for the Coyotes, but that's a whole different can of worms). No player is close to the maximum allowable salary cap hit (just over $16M/yr), though that is more due to how teams are constructed, though for a lot of teams, we are seeing a "core 4" emerge, as the players to build around, which generally seems logical to me. The introduction and structure of Entry Level Contracts was also a good choice, because I feel it puts new players on roughly equal footing, where their play in the NHL dictates what kind of money they'll make, and we don't get stuff like Alexandre Daigle's rookie deal. I do have mixed feelings on how Standard Player Contracts are structured, not in regards to length (an 8 year max is pretty reasonable, granted most players don't play a full 8 years for the team that signs them outside of true franchise players), but in how salary is divided by year. The thought generally seems to be when you sign a contract, you're either getting paid what your expected to produce, or getting paid for what you have already done. But for older players, UFA's nearing their 30s, or on the other side of 30, that production will generally tank after the first few seasons of a new contract, which is part of the reason contracts were being front loaded, the other being the absurd Kovalchuk cap circumvention shenanigans the Devil's tried to pull, but in general, I feel it makes sense to pay a player more for what are statisically likely to be the best years of that contract. Not that contracts aren't still, to some degree, structured that way, but it's less extreme. Though, to counterpoint myself, that does favor teams like the Leafs or Rangers, who are more likely to have the cash to burn, whereas a team like Columbus or Florida may not be able to do that. Please note, I'm just a passionate fan, I'm not an insider or an analyst. I'm just a guy with a business degree who loves hockey and doesn't have the patience to make his own videos, so I just leave really long comments when any reasonable person would just make a blog post or a podcast.
Absolutely hate 3 v 3 always have ill consead adding time say 10 for OT and make it 4 vs 4 it's better than 3 v 3 where a team will sit on the puck for 3 minutes skating back and forth.
The rule changes are what made the game grow. I’ve gone back and watched some old games from 2000-2004, and the speed of the game today is so much better.
The speed is good.
But player attitudes SUCK.
I’ve always wondered what the lock out was. Now I’ll know
It was a rough year, I was 19 years old but only really got into hockey a couple years ago previously, yet following hockey had become a full habit by then. Luckily, as a Canucks fan, we sent a bunch of notable players - Ryan Kesler first among them - to the AHL and I spent my time watching them and the CHL as well.
I was in 4th grade when the nhl lockout happened I will never forget it and it changed my life forever Gary.
Very informative, nicely done
great video, i had no idea why they had a lockout
bro the family feud sound effect 💀💀💀💀
Good video.
Thank you!!
Forgot to mention the 2011 NBA Lockout in the beginning.
The lockout in 04-05 sucked so much and tainted the NHL
It was tragic and sad, because (as someone who was of age at the time), we knew it was coming.
Took me 19 years to start watching hockey again after 2004. Was absolutely disgusted by that whole circus
Player salaries going from 76% of league revenues to 54% of league revenues was huge to ensure solvency.
Nobody can blame the owners for wanting to make money too.
@@bangyahead1that’s fair. But i have a huge problem with ”fans” giving players shit for being ”greedy”, yet i never hear anyone giving owners shit for being greedy.
@@MrABN86 It's a constant mentality that I have had a problem with for 30 years. Partly due to the players being more visible, tangible (especially in SM era), etc. But fan(atics) are not known to be logical. Owners are the actual greedy ones, yet the players always get ripped for looking after their own best interests when most never get a second or big-time contract.
They should have gotten rid of Bettman then. Send him back to basketball.
Yes get rid of the guy who made the league billions of dollars and is the reason the league is as amazing and skill focused as it is now lol. Way to go Bettman hater, keep hating on the only good commissioner/president the NHL has ever had.
@@HarryRiceHockeyGreat commissioners don’t have 3 work stoppages (all lockouts) on their watch. Sorry bout it.
@Jason.Takes.Manhattan Wow you are incredibly bitter my guy lmao. But the NHL and professional wrestling are at an all-time high for skill and athletic ability respectively. The 80s and 90s in the NHL was fun if you liked goals and no goals respectively, funny that you liked both eras consisting of guys non-stop getting concussions and them being laughed at on the highlight reel shows. If you like watching guys get hurt and dying 40 years before they should be then sure the 80s and 90s NHL *and* WWF are both for you I guess, but if you're like everyone watching the NHL now grandpa who loves watching for the skill and ability (even if I personally am not a fan of the flippy superkick fests I will respect the ability), that's clearly the reason it's making the most money. I'm pretty sure even if you adjust for inflation the NHL now is still making more money then it did in the boring ass game of the 90s cheap shots. The modern NHL is safe, it's fast, and it's the best goddamn league that has ever existed in any era of Hockey. You can be bitter all you want grandpa because your "rough 'em tough 'em" Hockey and Hogan/Warrior no real ability wrestling is all but a relic of the past like you are but let people enjoy the modern product of the respective sports all they want. There's old Hockey games and Wrestling matches online, go spend your days watching those or something just let real hockey fans enjoy the current product, because to me if you're skilled that's what matters on the ice. The goal scoring is what makes the NHL good, only difference is unlike in the 1980s, there's more than 4 goalies that are good and the rest are shitters that wouldn't even cut it in the 90s era of games ending 2-1 with final shots 21-17 lol.
@Jason.Takes.Manhattan No no no no no no bud lmao. Come on you blame Bettman for everything and you look like a dumbass lol. Those "dumb gimmicks" are not actually gimmicks, it's hard to remember but the shootouts when used in the ASG originally were actually seen as pretty cool and an interesting way to end a game, and the 3-on-3 OT is to make the game go faster which is again better for the play of the league! He is not why hockey moved from Quebec (which btw the Canadiens are still there lol) to Colorado, or why Arizona got the Jets. That should be placed on poor ownership from those teams, also funny how you say they moved from Canada to America where the big markets are yet they moved Atlanta which is a big market to a very small Canadian market in Winnipeg guess that didn't fit your narrative now did it bucko? Also I want to point out pretty sure Bettman doesn't have the final say of who moves where, I'm 99% sure that's put to an owner vote so the owners have to approve a move of which team to where and when expansion is done, Bettman isn't this complete overlord of the NHL like you seem to think he is lol. His salary cap ensuring we don't see another dynasty is doing EXACTLY what was wanted, fans didn't want to see another easy dynasty like the Oilers and Islanders had or the smart dynasties Montreal was constantly building, if we got a modern dynasty (Chicago) it was going to be earned and my god earned it was with 2010, 2013, and 2015. Clearly Bettman DOES care for the integrity of the game, why else would they strike out an entire season and when they came back in 05-06 not only were ticket sales through the goddamn roof even with almost every team having increased prices but the game was an overall better product to watch it was faster, it was more skilled focused, yes you still had enforcers and grinders but they were stuck on the 4th line with 7 minute ice times, not getting 2 minutes go out start a fight then you're done for the night that's not what Hockey is. You can say the game is pure trash if you want but I guarantee opening night you are going to keep watching like all the other has-beens and never-weres you're going to bitch and bitch and bitch but you "love" hockey too much to stop watching it, you're going to turn in to watch Connor McDavid and Trevor Zegras and Nathan MacKinnon show off all their pretty little dekes and be impressed every single time because that's what the old-timers do, they realize Gretzky and Messier could ever do that and only seen moves like that on Mario Lemieux who is the best player of all-time btw, clearly a league making money is a good league. That's why the WHA failed, it's why the XFL failed the first time in Football, it's why WCW failed after 1998, it's why every women's league until the one that is being created right now has failed (and this one probably won't), if people like your product they will buy shit. That's how basic economics works my friend. If you like something, more than likely you're going to want something to show you're a fan of a team rather it's a hat, a jersey, tickets to a game, season tickets if you're a crazed hardcore fan with that type of money, the NHL doesn't need people like you to watch yet you do because you're so simple you can't understand the NHL doesn't WANT you to watch lol.
Why in the world would the owners want to get rid of bettman? He won them the salary cap they wanted and got the league to a point where franchises value exploded.
I had no idea that player salaries were all the way up to 76% at that point, though the thing about the Penguins moving (potentially to Kansas City) is something that I was keenly aware of. While I won't break down everything about that CBA or the most recent one, I do believe some of the individual things in them are positives for the game. Salary cap being a hard cap tied to revenue, regardless of how it's split, is a move that makes sense, and, imo, is one of the reasons that the NHL has pretty good parity. Most teams (I'm so sorry Sabres fans, I really am, y'all deserve better) aren't that bad for that long, nor are they financially unteneable (Except for the Coyotes, but that's a whole different can of worms). No player is close to the maximum allowable salary cap hit (just over $16M/yr), though that is more due to how teams are constructed, though for a lot of teams, we are seeing a "core 4" emerge, as the players to build around, which generally seems logical to me.
The introduction and structure of Entry Level Contracts was also a good choice, because I feel it puts new players on roughly equal footing, where their play in the NHL dictates what kind of money they'll make, and we don't get stuff like Alexandre Daigle's rookie deal. I do have mixed feelings on how Standard Player Contracts are structured, not in regards to length (an 8 year max is pretty reasonable, granted most players don't play a full 8 years for the team that signs them outside of true franchise players), but in how salary is divided by year. The thought generally seems to be when you sign a contract, you're either getting paid what your expected to produce, or getting paid for what you have already done. But for older players, UFA's nearing their 30s, or on the other side of 30, that production will generally tank after the first few seasons of a new contract, which is part of the reason contracts were being front loaded, the other being the absurd Kovalchuk cap circumvention shenanigans the Devil's tried to pull, but in general, I feel it makes sense to pay a player more for what are statisically likely to be the best years of that contract. Not that contracts aren't still, to some degree, structured that way, but it's less extreme. Though, to counterpoint myself, that does favor teams like the Leafs or Rangers, who are more likely to have the cash to burn, whereas a team like Columbus or Florida may not be able to do that.
Please note, I'm just a passionate fan, I'm not an insider or an analyst. I'm just a guy with a business degree who loves hockey and doesn't have the patience to make his own videos, so I just leave really long comments when any reasonable person would just make a blog post or a podcast.
I think 3v3 is great to quickly end a regular season
Absolutely hate 3 v 3 always have ill consead adding time say 10 for OT and make it 4 vs 4 it's better than 3 v 3 where a team will sit on the puck for 3 minutes skating back and forth.