A Woman Begs People Not To Call An Ambulance. UK vs US Healthcare, w Stephen Fry.
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- Опубликовано: 18 июл 2019
- Will Boris and Trump privatise the NHS? How much would medicare for all cost in the US? Which healthcare system is most likely to save you? Killer facts are hidden by carefully constructed illusions.
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Health spending by country:
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Healthcare system rankings by country:
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Health industry contributes huge sums to political campaigns:
www.opensecrets.org/overview/...
Life expectancy vs health expenditure:
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Physicians reported that 20.6% of overall medical care was unnecessary, including 22.0% of prescription medications, 24.9% of tests, and 11.1% of procedures.
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$210 billion wasted on unnecessary healthcare services. National Academy of Medicine:
www.nationalacademies.org/hmd/...
In cases where people can be saved by effective care, the survival rate is higher in the UK, than in the US:
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19m Americans illegally import medicine to save money:
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Administrative spending as a percentage of healthcare expenditure:
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America: calls it lobbying
Any other country: calls it corruption
@L Cincinnatus What do you call it when a company funds a political campaign? Is the company just giving money away out of philanthropic desire, or do you suppose they want something in return?
@L Cincinnatus "of course they want something in return."
In other words, it's a legal form of bribery. That's what corruption is.
"do you think taaxi drivers ferry people around for the fun of it or do you suppose they want something in return?"
A taxi driver is supposed to work for their customer. They're providing a service and getting paid for it. You're inadvertently calling corporations the paying customers of politicians. Again, this is what we call bribery. Politicians are supposed to work for the voters, remember?
@L Cincinnatus "no that's retarded. it's the same as private citizens donating money to their political causes."
Is a politician afraid of losing your donation money for the next election, or the donation money of ExxonMobil? Who are they most likely to appease, you or them?
"politicians are supposed to work for their consitiutents"
Correct. And they don't. They work for their corporate donors.
"lobbyists are part of the electorate, remember?"
Let's say the captain of a ship only gives life preservers to those who paid him for one. Would you have a problem with that? After all, those who paid are part of the passenger list. The problem is not that some passengers have life preservers. The problem is all the other ones who don't.
@L Cincinnatus "they'd sooner lose the support of a small lobbyist group than a private citizen like bill gates."
Whoever can give them more money, essentially.
"there is no perfect solution"
Publicly funded campaigns works a treat. Then the vote is their only concern, rather than who can be their sugar daddy next election cycle.
"of course listen to exxon mobil more than the average citizen but in fairness exxon mobil does a lot more for the nation than the average citizen so it makes sense that they would be priviliged"
No, it doesn't make sense. If something benefits the nation, then the constituents of that nation should know it and want legislation that sustains that benefit. Of course, it's not possible for constituents to have perfect awareness and knowledge of what benefits the nation and its people, and what doesn't. But, constituents choosing what benefits them is the principle of voting in the first place.
"who are also citizens."
They can queue up to cast their vote just like the rest of us. One CEO, one vote.
"ship captains do not sell life jackets."
Ship captains don't have to actually sell life preservers in real life for you to grasp the unfairness I'm illustrating with my analogy, though, right?
"the problem is the assumption that we're all equal and of equal value"
Have you taken a gander at the Deceleration of Independence?
"and that we deserve what others have worked for."
Politicians working for their constituents instead of their donors does not involve taking what others have worked for.
"cletus the incestuous redneck is not as valuable to america as the ceo of a major corporation."
What fraction of a CEO is Cletus worth, would you say?
"either way a blanket ban on lobbyists would just mean that wealthy individuals would fund the elections instead"
Not if *all* private financing were illegal. If a political party or campaign got an equal, fixed sum of money from tax payers, it wouldn't need to cost much, and the only difference between the parties would be who has the most popular ideas, rather than who has the deepest pockets. It already works really well in several other countries. Politicians would then also never have to call around, prospecting for donations (something they pretty much all hate doing). They could focus on their job instead.
@L Cincinnatus You say that as if politicians having to collect donations to run for office is either normal or a good thing. You're so far gone in the US, you don't even see it as opening the door wide open for corruption. Our politicians don't go to big, fancy dinners to lick the boots of big donors, like the Koch brothers. The idea that a company or "interest group" over here was legally allowed to hand a politician a big cheque is ludicrous to us. Our campaigns are largely tax-funded through some complicated system - also resulting in short campaign times for everyone, and not almost 2 years.
I think the fact that there's a large and growing number of Americans who'd prefer the European model, but virtually ZERO Europeans who'd prefer the American model, says it all about which system is better.
We have Europeans who would love the American system. Usually they're the rich owners of the private clinics and rich people who had never had any health related problem (too stupid to understand that their luck could run out one day).
@Sloweceus Yeah the rise of Trumpets has been staggering the last 4 years...
@@speed65752 they are just like the people here who are healthy but don't understand that if they ever get an actual medical emergency they'll bleed more money in that one emergency than the amount of taxes in other countries they'll pay for an entire lifetime...not to mention, you still pay taxes for healthcare here in the US on top of copays, deductibles, etc you don't find anywhere else lol. it's such a stupid argument
@William Hancock That's where you are wrong.
@William Hancock What a sad life you must lead...
Healthcare is a nation’s necessity, not a luxury.
Healthcare should be a RIGHT, not a PRIVILEGE everywhere!! Especially in "the richest and most powerful nation in the world."
Actually in the UK it is a human right but in America it is a luxury’s
@@chickencottage9449 it is not a luxury, its a service, thats the only way a good system can be provided
@@heftymagic4814 well then explain why the people who are not insured (30 million) choose not to get it because it is to expensive
@@heftymagic4814 Like your Police FORCE.
I don't think there's anything that makes me as furious as when I see people in america criticising the NHS
The fucking AUDACITY!
They have to smear it to justify their own piss-poor system
It shows how brain-dead a select few of them are
I mean the NHS isn't as good as healthcare systems in places like france or germany but it's still way better then the american system.
@@jimb1117 the US is a banana republic
maybe the NHS still deserves its criticism? If the US were to try public healthcare they definitely shouldn't try England's version of it
For an allegedly Christian country, people the US sure don’t like doing anything that might help another person, if it might cost something.
... that's America's biggest flaw. Needing any kind of help costs money, apparently.🤔🤨
Indeed, it's so crazy to listen to, I love paying my taxes, it's pays for education for the next generation, pays for healthcare for all, infrastructure, social security.
It's so sad to see people having to crowdfund for their healthcare, when there is a better system
@@Batlafication the funny thing is, insurance companies as they stand are already "socialist", and people aren't bothered by it, but as soon as the government steps in it changes tone
@@roveroverhere99 indeed, it's almost the same principle, except the insurance companies have to make a profit, government does not
@@Batlafication The problem is not enough of our taxes go to education and health. We still keep funneling funds into military and continue cutting budgets sent to schools and hospitals. Just look at how reduced federal funding has forced students to shoulder the burden of universities that are no long financially supported to run.
The NHS was born 3 years after a devastating war. Our towns and cities were in rubble and we were half starved the country was bankrupt. Yet the people pulled together and insured no sick old or poor person was ever to worry about medical bills. The NHS is a miracle
Sounds like its one of those pillars that binds your country together. Dont let them take it away from you.
That could never work in the US. Republicans wouldn't spend a dime to help anyone. It's a "Me Me Me" culture, not one that values the wellbeing of the American people as a whole.
@@heirofthenazareen3812 how Christian of them
@@thehandoftheking3314 Lol :-) Yeah... In the early churches, Christians pooled their resources and made sure that everyone had enough. But if you remind Republicans of that, they cry, "Oh my, communism!" and cry out to Mar-a-Lago for salvation.
@@heirofthenazareen3812 I'm glad my church is trying to help the community even more at the moment in the UK
A Doctor walks into the office,"Hi, that'll be $500."
"But Doctor, you haven't done anything"!
"You're right! That'll cost extra".
And an extra $200 for looking him/her in eyes!
10 grand for breathing while inside the waiting room
@Alfie Green That depends a lot on your income but the average person would pay less under the uk system. The average us Tax rate is 24% while in the uk it would be somewhere around 20% for the average brit
@Alfie Green Well you're basically saying for the system to be fair the single woman should pay less in tax or that the mother should pay 5 times more?
@Alfie Green So it all boils down to you not wanting to pay because you dont need hea;thcare atm. Well yeah people tend to be complacent with their health, but we cant avoid the fact that we people are all humans, in time, we will eventually face complications and will eventually need healthcare. I would rather be burdened by having to pay tax for healthcare annually but will greatly benefit from it when needed than not to have to pay tax, but be bombarded with medical bills on a medical procedure that i needed that will break me in just a short period of time.
All those romcom scenes where a lady giving birth taking a taxi suddenly make sense
Underrated comment
I don't think anyone calls an ambulance when they go into labour. I could be wrong though.
I kept thinking why do they not call an ambulance now i know :/
@@BreadAccountant
I guess if they‘re unsure they‘ll make it in time they‘d probably call one. Having medical assistance just in case is never wrong in those situations.
@@BreadAccountant we do
I'm an Australian living in the UK and our health service is subsidised by paying out of our taxes. I have cardiomyopathy and are constantly in the care of medical professionals. It is the BEST medical care I have ever received. Dont know where Americans get their information from. Hospitals are extremely clean and efficient and guess what, I pay for it through my taxes so I don't even notice it. I don't get ANY bills for my treatment or to use an ambulance. American can learn from the UK. The UK put its citizens lives before profit. God bless the NHS
To be fair, Australia isn't too bad when it comes to serious health issues either. I had a heart attack around 8 years ago and the actual treatment cost me nothing, even though I ended up staying in hospital for around a month and had several consultations with specialists afterwards. I don't think any medical system anywhere in the world is flawless, but when it comes to treating medical conditions, I'd much rather be in Australia than the USA.
@@rodh1404 No modern western society is as bad as US. They take everything to the extremes cause of their "Wealth of nations ideology".
But Australia is a "wannabe-USA" in many of its policies. Can be thankfull to the british legislation that is the foundation of the laws, or Australia would be way more "americanized" if the politicians got it their way.
Thank labour the Conservatives want to change that
@@mohammedwaqas518 lol, they've increased the budget for the NHS, don't talk rubbish, !
@@mohammedwaqas518 You mean the same 'Labour' that privatised more of the NHS than the Conservatives ever have?
the same 'Labour' that created 'PFI' funding that privatised hospitals and which are crippling many NHS Trusts across the UK with exorbitant charges. Like £60 for a light bulb.
Go peddle your Momentum crap elsewhere Pal ....
Malaysian here, in a "third world country". I cut my fingger while doing some DIY at home. Cut so deep i could see bone. I had my wife drive me to the hospital. Arrived at the hospital at 5.30pm. Saw a doctor by 5.45pm. Got stitched up and left for home by 7pm. Paid RM1 (about USD$0.25). The most expensive thing i paid in the hospital was the sandwich i bought at the cafe.
I cut my finger to the bone when I was a pre-teen in Scouts, here in the US. We slapped a bandaid on it, and in a few months it'd healed. Never even crossed our minds to go to a doctor for something like that, in spite of the blood.
Great that healthcare is so highly regarded in your country
@@Swenthorian Thanks for giving us all an insight into your bravery / stupidity * (* delete as applicable).
@@ericfurey1669 I was 10 lmao. And we were camping in the middle of a Forest. I cut it while whittling a stick with a Swiss Army knife.
@John Smith Oh, it needed stitches. It took 6 months to heal because we just butterflied it together. I could literally see bone.
And I'm not being a tough guy at all! I'm just sharing the difference in culture/experience.
I also never said America is the greatest country on Earth; on the contrary, while it's an okay place to live, it sucks in many key ways.
What is with all the toxic replies here?
I would literally fight in the streets to save our nhs.
Now I am imagining Churchill giving a speech to save the NHS.
@@JastwatchingYT he was probably not a fan. good at war, shite at everything else. he was a tory afterall.
@@kanedNunable not gonna say good at war because of the whole galipoli thing but that man was charismatic and stubborn and in the darkest hour with no allies (except for their dominions and colonies) he didn't surrender. German lost so many resources fighting the British that there was no way they were on equal ground as the Soviets which caused their downfall (Their factories just go bombed to hell by the royal airforce).
@@JastwatchingYT Without the help of the USSR we would of lost the war. While Churchill helped us win, I dont think i could ever consider him a good person based of what he did afterwards.
@@d4nny8 There was no way the germans would storm the isles so it would be a stalemate for who knows how long but british would have lost a bunch of their colonies for sure since hitler had ambition on "mittelafrika". The USSR german war would be a even more bloody war and I could totally see the japanease attack valdivostok if germans took the caucuses and moskow.
Needless to say the world would be absolute hell but that doesn't mean churchill war good like you mentioned.
The bengal famine did hit a little too close to home for me.
Iv'e looked through a lot of these comments, i haven't found one that praises the US system. That says it all.
Go to a Fox "news" video on the subject and you will find the most vial, uninformed bullshit in those comment sections
no one likes the US here 💀💀💀
You got one here. Most of the people here believe what this anti-american hater said. It drew these people here because they believe the same lies. The US was founded and made great by those that could not longer live in the UK. We whooped them and have been helping them along including two world wars.
@@thegrumpypapa9849 Have you noticed that we live in 2021 and every other country than the US has developed a lot?
The US system works great for me. Most of the comments/viewers are from different countries and know NOTHING about how American healthcare works. "That says it all"... it says the average foreigner is completely ignorant about American Healthcare. That's all.
I'm an immigrant to Great Britain from America living in Scotland. Believe me when I say that the NHS is top notch and I'd pay more in taxes to see it flourish. I've had to rely on the NHS for two very serious situations in my life and I was treated with respect and kindness; not to mention I didn't go into debt for the treatments.
Why don’t Americans understand this? I’ve tried explaining to some on other videos that we would never give it up, and definitely not for their system. They don’t want to believe me though.
If you’re not happy with the NHS you can go private, but most people don’t as it is a waste of money and not necessary because the NHS works perfectly fine, I’ve certainly never had any issues with it.
They always say you can choose your doctor in America, but I saw a really nice lady gp last time I went and so requested for her to be my regular gp. I had to write a note saying my request with her name and any reasons, that’s it.
Also, I recently gave up private dental because I was paying £10 a week, and they do a really good job on the NHS. I now pay maybe £160 a year, instead of 480.
Same (though I'm back in the US now), but I had major thoracic surgery while I was there and it cost me _nothing_.
@H. Anthony Ribadeneira I don't know why you would think this, everyone has access to a GP and through them access to all services, I can't imagine why prevention or diagnosis would be any less robust under that system.
H. Anthony Ribadeneira nope. I was diagnosed with a serious condition by just calling in to their non-emergency line and speaking to a nurse who suggested I immediately have myself checked out. If it wasn't for that I'd be legally blind right now.
As a native Scot, I am happy that you have had this experience and long may you continue to reside in our wet and windy land.
I too have been a recipient of NHS healthcare. In fact I owe my life to it. My family too have all been beneficiaries. The proportion of my tax which goes towards this service is actually far less than I would choose. I would gladly pay more to ensure an even better service.
In contrast my dog's pet insurance is a nightmare. Overpriced, co-payments if there are issues, and pre-existing conditions not covered. Fortunately, for my dog, she doesn't have to worry whether she will have to sell the house if she needs an operation. It seems, however, that this is similar to the system that many in the US wish upon themselves. It's a great system ... right up until the point when you actually need it.
So, from what I can see, US healthcare is absolutely bonkers. On cost alone, it should be obvious. In the UK, overall, we pay 50% of what a US citizen pays, and we have dependable healthcare. Insofar as it has its flaws, that is due to underfunding mainly by ... Conservatives (surprise surprise). In fact, in the UK the amount we put into our health service in terms of GDP is about 2% or more less than equivalent developed nations. Luckily for us, the Work Health Organisation rates the UK as the most efficient health care system in the world.
I'm all for private enterprise, but in this case, due to economies of scale, and the nature of healthcare requirements, it seems that public provision is the best solution in this case. If that conflicts with anyone's ideology I am sorry, but them's the facts.
I am from Germany and our healthcare system isn't perfect but many, many times better than that of the US.
Service and efficiency could be better. But I have no complaints regarding the medical outcome and trust the vast majority of doctors.
Yes
I agree, it’s not perfect, but it’s way better than in the USA (and costs about half as much).
Germans pay 4 times as much tax as US citizens which means their health service is not as good as the US.
@@bighands69 But our healthcare system is mostly not tax funded , with some exceptions for police, militarry and unemployed. Our system is funded by the employees and employers. The thing is that it is mandatory to be ensured unless you can proof that you are super rich. Most of our ensurances are basically non-profit companies competing for clients.
In the UK we brought out a book to celebrate the NHS where celebrities talk about their experiences. Emma Watson says that she rushed a friend to the emergency room in America after his lung collapsed, and even though he was seriously ill they wouldn't let him in till she could produce evidence of insurance, and she had to make multiple phone calls to produce the right paperwork, the whole time having a panic attack because she was convinced her friend was going to die in the lobby of the hospital.
Did he recover?
@@ZK-wz8jw thankfully yes
Someone involved in that story is full of shit. Homeless people around where I live are known to call an ambulance to act as a taxi because it is illegal not to treat someone who claims to need to go to the hospital. Proof of insurance is not required in any for to get medical treatment in any case, emergency or not.
@@escthedark3709 you raise an interesting point. Someone who doesn't care about the charges incurred for going to hospital in the US will call an ambulance because they don't care about the effect on their credit of not paying for their treatment (which they will still be charged for, even if they have no way of paying).
But most people will care about the cost of the ambulance and treatment and the effect on their credit and finances if they don't pay.
The point you miss is that everyone in the US is billed for their treatment (including the ambulance). A lot of people put off treatment due to the cost. Some people even avoid using ambulances due to the high cost.
Even with insurance, the deductible for a lot of people and copays mean a lot of people avoid getting medical treatment.
The problem with the US system isn't the right to treatment. It is the cost.
Uhhhhhh.......did she go to the front lobby? If she went to the emergency room they would have rushed immediately to the back under the rules of triage. Contrary to popular belief, it is illegal to turn people away from the hospital due to insurance stuff. The prices are outrageous though. For real. That shit has to go.
I like how Americans call universal Healthcare radical or extreme or even communist yet the entire developed world has it
Yeah, a geography textbook I read recently called the US a _developing country_
Probably fits, given the state that it’s in
@@ataphelicopter5734 yes a lot of countries are now recognizing the usa as 2nd world or developing. The usa once was very developed, but that was mostly because the rest of the world was in war while America just stood on the side lines and raped some small island nations for oil and gold. Ever since though America has only been going down overall, and statistics show that america dosent compare to other developed countries, and soon I belive around 2030 to 2040 it will officially be labeled as either developing or maybe it's own label that describes its situation
It’s really not as bad. You should probably visit. There’s reason to live in Europe and America.
Deadass, right wing american be like oh health care will destroy our system, like bitch im sorry my family can't afford healthcare i guess my mom will die cuz rich people deserve their money :(. Families should not have to choose between rent food etc. and fucking life saving services. I want the fuck out of this nasty ass country.
@@ericprzybyl9227 I wouldn't mind visiting...no way I'd stay though, you guys don't even get paid leave from work....I get 28 days a year paid leave and that's basic requirement.
As a Brit I love the NHS - it has saved my life. The US camp keep its filthy hands off it🤬🤬
Just wait for brexit to kick in..
@Snaggle Toothed is that sarcasm cos the facts on that bus were wrong. Weren't they?
How much do you weigh
Sorry we will get better. Russia fucked us. We fucked us. Sorry again. Fight for the love of humanity fight. I know I am FUCK trump FUCK boris ✊
@@kaleyhepp8078 And fuck you!
Im from Germany and allthough our healthcare system need some reform it is still one I wouldnt want to trade for the american one under any circumstance.
No European would, apart from brainwashed far right neo-fascists who haven't got a clue how things actually work and how much universal health care benefits everyone.
I feel exactly the same way about the Belgian system.
I wish we had the German system in the UK.
@@nicolasmogensen8727 Call everyone facists you lose meaning of the word. I dont care if you call me a facist anymore, all it shows me is you are a cry baby and have facistic tendancies yourself.
Why can't fascists spell? It's really annoying.
As an american i want to move back to NZ where my taxes were 1% lower than the US and universal healthcare is free to all.
Good luck man.
Dude or just campaign for universal Healthcare in the states like everyone else instead of saying "ill just move back"
@@bonda_racing3579 well I mean half the country is telling him to. At this point it'd just be easier to move off.
@@what8569 Man I just hate the defeatist attitude towards all of this. U.S has alot of wasted potential and if only people care more from both sides
@@bonda_racing3579 yeah man America got so much potential but due to some people or groups it is tearing apart
(Get's injured)
"Argh! God that hurts so mu-"
(Hears American Ambulance on it's way)
"Kidding! I was kidding! I feel just fine!"
"Arghh, I'm bleeding, I think I'm gonna die, hel- wait what do you mean an ambulance is on the way!? I can live with a little death, it'll be fine!"
If it is already on its way aren't you now obliged to pay for it or only if they can drag you inside? Haha
@@yonJM now I'm imagining crooked paramedics braining potential 'clients' when they're not looking and going theatrical "oh no this person fainted we'd better take them to hospital!"
American ambulance technician: can't speak, don't know if he's insured!
Ambulance driver: check his wallet, got a credit card?
Technician: American Express!
Driver: That'll do nicely....
WOW! That really brings home how bad a system is when someone gets injured and begs for the ambulance NOT to be called. That''s horrible.
Owen Fitzgerald did you say horrible well no, it’s disgusting!
People in the UK also beg for ambulances not to be called but what does that have to do with anything?
@@bighands69 No they don't. In my 45 years in Britain, I have never even head of anyone ever doing that. Whenever I've seen people loaded in to ambulances they've been either grateful or unconscious. No one in Britain gets charged for an ambulance and they don't get charged for the hospital treatment
@@bighands69 where did you hear this? What logic is there for people not to get an ambulance?
@@bighands69 no we don't. Never heard of that happening and I have paramedics in my other halfs family. Only time I can imagine it occurring is if the injury is a result of illegal activity that they don't want investigated... NOTHING to do with not being able to afford it. So you can piss right the fuck off with your lies.
I had a cardiac tear when I was 6. I had septicaemia when I was 10. I had a ruptured spleen when I was 17.
I'm English and from a poor family. If it weren't for the NHS I'd be dead or my parents would be in hundreds of thousands of pounds in debt.
KEEP YOUR HANDS OFF THE NHS!
Riotous Behaviour That’s exactly why we love the NHS. You and your children have as much right to life as the Queen or the Prime Minister and their children. If we don’t value human life above all else, we are no longer a civilised society. I have very little but I’ll pay more for the NHS if asked.
well, if your new leader does mess with it, I hope the British do more than complain and scratch their arses like the Americans do.
You'd be dead OR your parents would be hundreds of thousands in the hole? I think it's more likely it would've been both.
And now that grinning, scruffy-headed twat is our prime minister. The NHS is doomed.
Good for you thanks to the NHS I lost my job and was in debt for the private health care. I support privatisation.
@@notreal1477 how exactly did the NHS put you in debt?
Imagine your leg nearly gets cut off or does get cut off and you're begging the people around you not to call an ambulance because of the cost. That's straight fucked.
In the UK you would get a free helicopter with a doctor and paramedics
@@woodthorpe100 In 'he UK you would ge' a free helicop'er wi'h a doc'or and paramedics
I am a brit and once a member of my family deliberately took an overdose of prescription medication, after a call to 999 we were insured that the medication was harmless In the quantity she had taken yet they insisted on sending an ambulance and her spending a night in the hospital. Something and American would surely refuse and because of the NHS there was no charge. I don't understand how the US can speak ill of our free health care and actively fear losing everything they own because of theirs.
as someone who lives in the us, this video is unbelievably misinformed. absolutely no research done on their part. 99% of the time, ambulances are free. Every single fee you recieve can be disputed outside the court of law, meaning you can basically get off scott free, unless the hospital sues you personally to prove that you can afford payment, but thats a waste of time for them.
@@raam1666 Total bullshit.
@@raam1666 [Every single fee you receive can be disputed outside the court of law, meaning you can basically get off scott free, unless the hospital sues you personally to prove that you can afford payment]>>..........you've just admitted the hospital charge for treatment, what you're saying is "either pay the hospital bill or pay a lawyer/solicitor to challenge the bill", either way, you finish up out of pocket......
US resident: I dont take ambulances because they are too expensive
Me(european): U need to pay for that?
truee
Honestly
Not really, I took the ambulance in the Netherlands, costed me a couple hunderds..
@@chattenmetchad do you live in the netherlands or were you just a visitor?
@@colinlook5237 born and raised, correction: 2 ambulance trips to the hospital
We DO have death panels. They're called insurance companies.
Nope they do not exist so you can stop with your nonsense.
@@bighands69 Ensurance companies profit from not delivereing the service they are payed to deliver. You can't deny that.
@@TremereTT
Insurance companies profit from paying users not claims.
@@bighands69 That's like saying McDonald's profit from costumers and not from shrinking portions.
@@louisvalencia5244
McDonalds profit because they take in more money than they spend. It is really simple.
Even Malaysia has a better healthcare system than the US. The public hospitals may not have the fanciest interiors but no one goes bankrupt for a medical bill.
Your definition of "better" is flawed. I also highly doubt you know anything about the American healthcare system at all.
@@daniellemeyer8568 Well you can see a woman begging not to be taken to a hospital. If that doesn't set off alarm bells well fine enjoy your healthcare.
@@daniellemeyer8568 it doesn't matter when you have all the best doctors and equipments if you can't pay for it.
@@mfd8346 And that is what we call propaganda and a "generalization" fallacy. My insurance has always covered ambulance rides and emergency hospital services. Always. Why the hell would I have insurance if it didn't? Maybe this woman doesn't understand her insurance or foolishly chooses to not to have any (but also doesn't qualify for free insurance which ALL poor people in the US qualify for).
I could also find INDIVIDUAL stories of the people dying of common ailments in Malayasia. And then conclude that Malayasia has the worst healthcare system in the world. But that tells me nothing about the Malayasia healthcare system and that is just propaganda.
@@msgpatient7850 It's called insurance Maxwell.
USA: criticizes NHS
*The lion the witch and the audacity of this b-*
thats fox for ya
Thanks for making me laught mate
itch
*I am a Londoner and I am happy and willing to pay more tax for our NHS! USA keep your sticky fingers out of our NHS! We don't need to do trading with you!*
I would suggest that we do, they are our largest market.
"I am happy and willing to pay more tax for our NHS!" so you will be happy to pay for some fat ass to live like a slob no thanks for me oh and "We don't need to do trading with you!" sorry but you do you can even support your self you are to big almost no nation can over population kicked in a long time ago when it came to borders.
You do realise per person it actually costs the us government more for this model of health care than full universal health care like we've got in 1st world countries
@@hinamanskilm992 what are you saying, can’t understand what you wrote.
@Mark Hepworth not for much longer lol.
I have always said, the only way to estimate a country's greatness, is by how they treat their sick. With that in mind, I am so glad I live in the UK
Their weak. See how they treat their weak and those in need of help. The sick are but one fraction in that category.
Are you skunked? Bozzi and his mates are watching us drop like flies, cutting NHS fundng and giving themselves a pay rise? You're either trolling, stupid or a tory helmet
@@damienlewis6104 Good job your mate Corbyn didn't get in because even the flies would be dead by now!
UK has a far lower standard of living than in the US.
@@bighands69 Overall, the cost of living in the U.K. is 0.49% lower than in the United States. Rent overall is about 22.55% lower in the U.K. You would need $4,700 per month to finance a modest lifestyle in London, compared to $5,822 for the equivalent lifestyle in New York City. The 1000 dollar difference between the two with the TINIEST bit lower. Good pay off to me.
I’m British and this makes me feel bad for all the times moaned about my GP appointment being 15mins late
i'm not British but dutch and now i'm feeling bad as well. Thank you
I went to an emergency room in America and spent 4 hours waiting for treatment. $350, for emergency service, only. Treatment not included. Those bills came later.
Imagine convalescing in a hospital bed but instead of thinking of how best to recuperate. You’re worried about whether you’ll have the funds to settle the bill at the end.
When I was young, I fell off my bike and broke my leg. The bill was so expensive, my family couldn't afford to travel and see my grandmother before she died.
Let me tell anyone who will listen!! The NHS is the best public service ever, anywhere. The fact it struggles sometimes is the fault of politicians not itself or it’s model. My mum has 3 types of cancer. She is treated every week for nothing. Treatment after treatment, scan after scan. My parents have not had to sell their home. They are not bankrupt nor should they be. These American delusions about ‘single payer’ are just that. Pretty much the ONLY thing which currently unites people in the UK is love for the NHS.
Absolutely true about the only thing that unites the U.K right now. The NHS is the main contributor to making Britain great
Harrymm Alexander
One of them. Don’t believe the hype or get distracted by the voices of lunacy.
I broadly agree with you #Andrew, but there is virtually no accessible mental health service available to working class people in many parts of the UK. I've been waiting 51 years for basic CDT help.
Having survived 9 years of chattel slavery as an orphaned child, and suffered developmental brain injuries as a result, I can't get even an appointment with a Dr. But I hear of others with mere mild PTSD
getting Dr's appointments AND therapy. It seems the Physical health related NHS is worth fighting for. But the now privatised AWP run mental health 'provision' is not fit for purpose, and demonstrates how bad and discriminatory the General NHS could become, if it too is handed over to companies like AWP.
Not necessarily the absolute best, but certainly better than anything outside Europe. Across Europe in most countries healthcare is free, with some variations in delivery. In Germany for example you can choose between public and private insurance, with public rates being highly regulated. Both you and your employer pay into the public system, and if you want to have some more non-essential treatments covered, you can buy additional private insurance. In my opinion this system might be better than the NHS, since rates are no higher, but government expenditure is lower. Both public and private insurers compete with each other, meaning there is an incentive for good coverage and lower rates (the low end being set by the government). This system has been working for over 130 years.
VЄ Macrinnon agreed.. and that’s because of underfunding, not because the system is the wrong one
Without the NHS the world wouldn't have seen Steven Hawking.
I'm struggling to find a link now, but when Fox was doing that whole Death Panel bullshit a while ago. There's clip of them arguing that if Stephen Hawking was looked after under the UK model, he would be dead. *Rolls eyes*
@Ant Ismphobe *facepalm*
Steve Terry what the hell?!
@Ant Ismphobe Hawking was a huge fan of the NHS and a said several times that he would have died young if he was born in the US and that the NHS saved his life.
@Steve Terry eh? You do know how the French, Scandinavians etc fund their health service right? None of them would had died. Whats your point?
I'm not even British born, but spent the last 25 years of my life here. I will fight in a civil war just to protect the NHS. Me and my family were lower class for many years here, and we always appreciated how regardless of our financial status, we would taken care of under the NHS. Now that I'm in a position to afford private healthcare I will still fight to keep the NHS alive. That's the difference between Americans and us. Thats my patriotic duty to this country, not waving flags and shouting freedom. But ensuring those who are in a worse off situation get the help they need.
Brave, glad you've joined us!
My great aunt's twin sister died (in England) her parents couldn't afford to call a doctor. 1 week later the NHS was available for all. She tells us all the time to look after our NHS, because she said it's a gift from god to all.
NHS = The gift that keeps giving. I would gladly pay more tax if I knew it was going to the NHS. Thankyou NHS for my two hip replacements, my children's healthcare, my grand children's healthcare and on behalf of all UK citizens who are cared for by our NHS heroes.
Never needed the Dutch system, but still loving it.
Being social does not mean you are a socialist or communist.
It makes you human.
Well the Dutch aren't far from the US system, since we got rid of the "ziekenfonds" and traded it in for a private health insurance. All to benefit the insurance companies and businesses. Hospitals going bankrupt is not the way it should be. The right in the Netherlands made this posible as well....
@@AustinPowersNL
Not completely true
Only a small part of the health insurance is directly payed by the insured.
And everybody has to pay this part (around €100,-/month/adult person)
The largest part is paid through the government (around 80% of all costs, so around €500,-/person/month). The total cost per year is about €6000,- .
An insurer is not allowed to refuse any person for this basic insurance and the government will pay a compensation fee to the insurer according to the number of people needing health care.
This base insurance will cover a whole lot of stuff so there is no obstacle to see a doctor or get treatment.
On top of this basic insurance people can insure themselves for more care.
An insurer can bar any person from this insurance, but it is really on top of an already broad spectrum of heath issues covered by the basic insurance.
It is true hospitals are going bankrupt, but the last case in Amsterdam was because of an overcrowded market (to many hospitals) and in the other case not enough patients to have such a big hospital.
In the second case the patients have to travel 30 kms (less than 20 miles) to another hospital to get the same good treatment. Not really nice for those people, but the healthcare is still good.
To be honest, everybody in the Netherlands is well insured.
In the states however?
I don't say the Dutch system is the best there is, but the Dutch system ranks the 17th position of the world while the Canadian system ranks 30st and the US system the 37th. (tinyurl.com/42yl3sn)
@@BendeVette Everyone may be insured. But not everything is covered like it use to be under the "ziekenfonds".
The majority of low income families don't have dentist insurance. And people are avoiding healtcare so they won't have to pay a high own risk. Or get cut off from "expensive" care because it is not covered. It is far from perfect.
How many people are in debt because of this system? They can't even pay for their insurance. Or hospital bills.
The fact is, we went to this system because the (big) corporations didn't want to pay for the "ziekenfonds". Because the majority of the fund came from (big) corporations. Our solidarity went from being with the poor people to being with the corporations. ("Daarnaast was het werkgeversdeel van de ziekenfondspremie voor veel werkgevers een steen des aanstoots. ")
They benefited the most from this change, not the people.
@@AustinPowersNL
Dear AustinPowersNL,
You can see your General Practitioner for free (always).
You might have to pay a part of your medicines, but the maximum you have to pay per year is €385,-. Not nice, but no reason not the get your medicines.
This part of €385,- can be payed in parts to your insurer (in case you just don't have it).
Not using your insurance is just plain stupid and there is really no reason not to get it.
The "Ziekenfonds" was not free too.
People had to pay an amount of €35,- per month (16 years ago).
Not everybody was insured ("Ziekenfond" was only for the people earning less than a certain amount).
The healthcare was worse in those days
The chance you had to wait several weeks of months to get treatment was normal.
As I said, it still isn't ideal, but it still is a very good deal for everybody.
Furthermore, your employer still pays 6,90% of your income to health insurance.
Some treatments are not covered by your insurer. But all life threatening are (next to the standard stuff like broken bones, heart treatments, appendix, etc). Yes, you might have to pay to get you ears corrected.
@@BendeVette The issue with private insurance is that money, that would go directly towards care in a fully socialized healthcare system, is funneled through privately owned insurance companies, who skim off the top, making healthcare more expensive, or in most cases, making it so that healthcare providers have to reduce quality of care in order to manage their economics successfully. It's a scam that hurts society as a whole. The insurers are bookies running dirty games. They should be ousted, and ideally flogged through the streets, alongside the politicians who set them up, for pushing this humbug.
Americans: Pay 1000$ on private insurance 😀
Americans: Pay 100$ on taxes instead 😫
I need treatment every 8 weeks, that costs £2k every time. I feel if I was American, I’d be bankrupt easily. The NHS is amazing, and the quality of care is unbelievable. So thankful.
Mathematically speaking, that's 346.75 per week in US Dollars. Just for reference, the average American makes around $984 (1364.81 pounds) a week. Not only is that a large amount, but American hospitals would probably charge double or even triple that amount.
@@StValentine-uh5lv without a doubt. I believe it’s an American drug too. Insurance for me in the US would be astronomical 😂
To the person who said that the NHS was “filthy”, where is your proof? I have worked in and been a patient of the NHS and have not experienced filth on a ward or in a doctors office!
I think when you want to protect yourself in a lie you call it "Anecdotal evidence"
It's Fox 'News'. Why tell the truth when a shocking lie gets more ratings? The US is too concerned about the almighty dollar.
Im from New Zealand and spent a week in hospital in London. It was very clean and the care was perfect. Sometimes I think the USA says these things to make themselves feel better.
@@icebergrose8955 I think you’re right, when they don’t have an argument against socialised medicine they are reduced to name calling!
I have worked in the NHS and hospitals are a cesspit of dirt and germs.
The NHS is an absolute godsend and we will not let the greed of politicians take it away from us!
don't generalize politicians. Mamy politicians want to create better societies.
Blame capitalism as the system, and lobbyists as those manipulating democracy and the only power innthe system that actualy helps the people.
@@AqierDesigns Oh, shut up, commie.
@@tygonmaster
You dont have to be a Communist realize it is large corporations
Who want to destroy the NHS so that they can swoop in and profit from private healthcare
@@tygonmaster Is the whole world black and white for you?
Imagine living in such an evil world where money is put before people's health care and quality of life. Work to live people don't live too work.
"If people have to pay for them they will value them more" - Boris Johnson
That's the kind of sentence that warrants the guillotines coming out.
How the hell is this SOB in charge?!
I'm so proud of the NHS in great Britain. They saved my life 3 years ago and I still need on going care. What has this cost me? £0. Thank you NHS.
Johnnyboy, everyone in england should be proud of the NHS !!
Absolutely
Which are a pittance, so small you don't even notice.
At point of care it is £0, wheras in America you spend thousands on a simple appointment or operation, even more if you can't afford insurance or have 'pre existing conditions' (heart problems is one such thing)
Medical bankruptcy is endemic in the US but basically unheard of over here.
The only point you pay any money is for prescription meds (£9 per item type on your prescription list, yet $6000 for price-gouged medicine, if you have an exemption card, every part of the NHS is free if you are a citizen)
NHS over the US anyday
@Jake L You obviously aren't old enough to be working yet, so toddle off and come back when you have something to say that doesnt make you sound like a 12 year old edge lord.
@Jake L Which I paid into for 45 years so that now I am too old to work I don't have to worry about how I'm going to afford any costs of healthcare when I most likely to need it! The NHS won't ditch me like an insurance company might if, God forbid, I needed extensive care.
You can’t beat the NHS, I would happily pay more in taxes to keep it available for all and support the hard work the NHS staff perform everyday than see it privatised so that someone who doesn’t honestly need more money to add to their fortune can have their pockets lined further.
Imagine having to pay over $2000 to call an ambulance.
Your right, my grandma hand to pay $5,000 for an ambulance ride.
That's 145k inr in india
The ambulance for a high class ( like those American design based) hospital have a charge of 400 inr which is equal to 6 usd
And yes we have proper hygiene and stuff
And yes if someone is from poor family who work a low class job and can't pay taxes he will get free treatment and the govt will take care of the charges
@@Ansh77K how are the hospitals in the public hospitals, my parents would tell me that they are not the best.
PS - I am not being rude so am just curious
@@SB-ip1bb yep your parents are right, 3 out of 5 public/govt owned hospital aren't in best condition because some state govt doesn't bother to look it up, and the condition varies from place to place but I know a lot of public hospitals where they keep proper hygiene like in motinagar etc ,
The good thing about public hospitals is that they provide medicine free of cost , so people with low income tends to go there
The media also tends to not bring these topic up cuz it'll damage the govt reputation
They only bring these things when either there has been serious crimes or their condition become that bad that public starts riot
@@Ansh77K okay thanks
other countries: we care about people's lives and health:)
the US: you damn socialists/ communists
I am from Canada where the health care is vastly superior to the US yet when I immigrated to the UK suddenly I found that I could receive treatment for many of the health problems which I could not receive treatment for in Canada. That was the negative influence of the US economy pushing on the Canadian health care system through economics, ie. Free Trade. If we allow that negative economic influence into the UK we stand to lose much of the excellent care we now get under our NHS.
That might be the primary motive for the funders of the Brexit campaign. To facilitate the purchasing of government assets and regulations for short-term profit.
@CalvinSomething It would be difficult to prove beyond doubt that Canada's health care system was made worse by Free Trade - and there will always be doubters. But the health care system was not excluded from the Free Trade agreement and Mr Fry's video gives ample evidence that health care for profit is not health care it is health greed. It is certainly my belief that Canada's health care system was negatively affected by Free Trade and I was refused treatments due to 'expense' in Canada where I received the treatment in the UK without question.
If the UK's health care system is 'on the table' in trade negotiations with the USA it will be negatively affected. Companies can only make a profit at someone else's expense and that someone else will be the NHS using UK public.
@CalvinSomething As for evidence, my experience in Canada is now over 20 years ago (the Free Trade agreement is even longer ago) and I left because I did not like it. I see no point in dreging up all the evidence along with negative memories as it is not of significant importance here. It is my belief and I am not trying to convert anyone to my way of thinking so leave it at that.
The UK health system is not 'on the table' yet but it has been said that it may be and that is what we want to avoid. Thus the video above.
Health Greed - people who sell food and housing may certainly be guilty of 'food greed' and 'housing greed'. You see it everyday in the UK. It is an issue in our politics all the time. And if you have ever seen someone refused to be treated for a seriously fractured leg because they forgot to make thier last health insurance payment (which I have - and this was in Canada) you might think there was a problem with the finacial incentive for better quality of service model. Health, food and housing are, and should be, basic human rights and people should not be denied any of them because others want to make a profit.
I am beginning to think you have not actually watched the video above. I would politely suggest that you watch it carefully and comment directly on the video rather than challenging people in the comments on their beliefs. I will be making no further responses as I have better things to do with my time.
@CalvinSomething No, I believe he is saying that one of the conditions of the agreement was opening Canada's healthcare system to US companies, the exact same condition that the US has demanded of the UK post-Brexit, that we open the NHS to American health companies. If that doesn't clarify the connection between free trade and healthcare then you need to wipe your glasses, they appear to have black paint over the lenses.
@CalvinSomething removing pricing controls will directly affect quality of care by massively increasing spending on drugs leaving less money for everything else. The argument for letting the market dictate the prices is flawed because there are very few drug companies large enough to compete - and patents make true free market economics impossible. Sometimes the same drug in the US is 10 times more expensive than the UK. Then there are the price fixing scandals and billion dollar lawsuits, and the fact that drug efficacy is based on selected industry studies amd all the lobbying. They need regulating.
I love the NHS. Me and my family have only ever received the best possible care. Must be protected.
i honestly believe if any brexit deal has the NHS on the chopping block there WILL be riots. Not much will get us off our fat lazy arses, but the NHS is one
The question is this; would you be prepared to literally fight violently to save it? If you aren't prepared to take that step then one day you'll wake up and find that it's gone.
rising surfer the problem is, though, that politicians and businesses wanting to get rid of it aren’t stupid, they know that’s how most people feel.
Their plan of privatisation, which has been ongoing under the Tories, is to slowly chip away at the NHS whilst simultaneously underfunding it and dismantling it until people start calling for a private insurance based system to pick up the pace.
We are already reaching that point, Farage and many random people I debate with are now saying that private insurance is preferable considering the sorry state of the NHS...
Personally I think it would be beneficially to the NHS if it weren't financed by taxes but by some sort of special fee (well, basically some sort of separate health tax) which goes fully to the NHS. This way the government couldn't squeeze money out of it quite as easily.
Then start its already being outsourced from under your nose, mental health services, screening services, ambulances already in the hands of providers and hospital cleaners too.
A country’s like a subscription based service, you pay a monthly fee and get some benefits in return. America has some pretty shit benefits for its subscribers
That is a really great way of saying it. Imma use it myself sometime
Underrated comment. But yeah, taxes are our subscription to live in a civilised society. Some people, of course, try to define what they call 'civilisation' for more profit.
I'm Australian. Been in hospital twice. Had two surgeries. I've never paid medical insurance. I'm $60 out of pocket in my life. I'm 43.
The US has the worst healthcare system in the developed world in fact it's even worse than that of some developing countries.
If anything the UK needs to keep American healthcare companies out at all costs.
Is it true that each American also resents having to pay for those highways which he, personally, never uses?
It's the best if you can afford it
@@kris2672, let me laugh
Actually it was one of the best before 1965 (introduction of Medicare). Subsidising healthcare is far worse than nationalising it because when you artificially stimulate demand it causes no incentives to lower price
@@kris2672 nobody can pay for it except the top 5%
I'm in the UK and if it wasn't for our healthcare system I'd be dead, plain and simple. The cost of care and the surgery I required (and possible future surgeries along with ongoing treatment) would be astronomical and leave me in levels of debt no individual should have to bear and which few could afford to.
Our system is being dismantled and destroyed by greedy politicians and greedy corporate influence. It needs protecting and the American influences need to be completely ignored as it'll only damage the health of the UK population.
One of my biggest worries is in relation to the NHS and its future.
The system in the USA badly needs to change to say the least.
My friends mum is in the US without there healthcare she would have died...
John Harris this isn’t a game of “who would be dead or alive under the US vs UK system” - this is a question of “do I forego medical treatment because I’ll be bankrupt?” And the evidence shows that under the US healthcare system, people are going bankrupt because of the medical treatments they’ve received to keep them alive. This doesn’t happen under the UK’s NHS.
@@ANDREWHarris86 How do you know a socialised healthcare system couldn't have treated her better?
Socialised medicine has everything the American system does, the only difference is that the pharmaceutical companies (and the insurance companies) are richer.
@@lloroshastar6347 Some medicines have been noted to not be on the NHS as US imports from 'Big Pharma' continuously drive up the cost. That will surely have an impact on what surgery is also available. Deals may be eventually made. Countries willing to buy regardless of cost or bow to all demands, big pharma as a business would just keep upping that price until the 'customer' (any government with a health service) refused
When you have to pay for 'skin to skin contact' for newborn babies, you know someone is doing a sick comedy behind the curtain.
I'm from Portugal, and I've been treated for breast cancer since 2003.
Although the Portuguese health care system is nothing to brag about, I never paid a cent for all the treatments and surgeries: mastectomy in 2003 and hip replacement in 2019. because after 15 years of being "clean", cancer came back in the bones.
But I'm still alive and kicking, thanks to our derelict health service, free of charge.
My country is small and poor. I will never understand the American way.
Best regards to all! Stay safe!
even though I don't know you, I'm glad you're still alive and kicking!
USA. 1st world budget but 3rd world healthcare.
Even RWANDA has thriving social healthcare.
How can people even begin to imagine that the US system is beneficial?
Would you rather live in the US or RWANDA?
@@Vultur321 If I had treatable cancer? Rwanda, probably.
@@Vultur321 Less of chance of being shot by the police in rwanda just for the color of your skin.
@@Vultur321 that's his point. Most people would rather live in America than Rwanda because it's got a list of better conditions. The fact though that a struggling 3rd world country in central Africa can have a social healthcare system 20 years after a terrible genocide destroyed much of the country yet America, the largest economy and sole superpower can't shows just how bad you're healthcare system is. Wake up for you and your fellow Americans sake.
@@Vultur321 the point
Your head
You just have to watch healthcare professionals save your child's life, secure in the knowledge that you will never be asked what care you can afford, to know that the NHS is one of the best things the UK has ever done
Spain here. I have many US americans as online friends (to get better in english) and once I told a friend about something that happened to me when I was 14 and they where shocked. I was in my apartment with my (in that time) grandfather with vascular dementia, I was doing a craft and I cut my finger with the scalpel, I know first aid so I covered it and pressed the skin together for a while to try stop the bleeding, I also tried calling my dad but he didn't answer, after 10 minutes it was still bleeding a lot, so I called 061 (the medical emergency line, is better to call this instead of 112, general emergency, because you talk directly with someone that can help you or pass you with a doctor) and said that I cut myself with a scalpel in the finger, they asked about my address and then made a triage, 5 minutes later two paramedics where in my door, I didn't needed stitches so I didn't went to the hospital but I was only with my grandpa (incapacitated) so they had to wait for my dad to come home or ride me to the hospital to wait there for him, so they stayed watching a movie that was on tv and talking with me untill my dad came home, he signed some papers and the paramedics left. I didn't pay a single € and I faint really easily, so it was possible that I fainted and hurt myself a lot more.
Spanish halthcare is not amazing but at least I don't have to pay (Now I work and I don't pay taxes because I am dissabled, so I kinda don't pay for it).
I feel sorry for Americans. I just hope we never lose the NHS. I didnt used to know how lucky we are.
I’m from the UK and 7 years ago my mother got appendicitis. It was caught so late that the doctors were worried that she wouldn’t make it. Now she’s running a fish and chip shop business and she’s debt free. The NHS is brilliant.
What? The NHS bought her a fish and chip shop and paid her debts? Well that was nice of them!
Bless you both for your fortune! 😊
Had it aswell, I’m from Israel our healthcare system is pretty decent, debt free. If I had it while in America I would be in debt for life
@@B-A-L The NHS paid for her to live.
@@B-A-L you made me laugh thank you
As a Scotsman on minimum wage and a father of a child who requires medicine every day, this scares the crap out of me, if we end up with a US style system for healthcare, I'd never be able to afford it!
I truly wish you the best for the future. Fortunately for the moment I think we're safe - privatisation of the NHS might be creeping in, but they know it's unpopular and they have to be slow and sneaky with it. I doubt we'll see any sudden rises in medication costs any time soon, unless they want riots in the streets.
@@WadcaWymiaru You don't have any private healthcare in Poland? In the UK we have lots of insurers, if someone doesn't like the NHS they can just go private with Bupa or Vitality or one of the myriad of other insurers. Right wing Americans often forget that we still have private healthcare in the UK, we just also happen to have a universal carer that accepts anyone regardless of their condition.
@@WadcaWymiaru I'm sorry to hear that, but one bad version of a system doesn't mean all versions of the system are bad. A friend of mine is Polish and is forever telling me about the corruption and scandals in the Polish government. It may well be that their version of state-run healthcare is terrible.
But just because you're sold a broken, second-hand car, doesn't mean cars are a worse form of travel than walking.
In Poland you are FORCED to pay for health care. And insurance in government organization called "ZUS". (spell Zeus)
That thing start to collapse because of aging society.
The corruption is HORRIBLE, however polish people are STILL blind. Last UE parliament election shows HOW. It must explode in next year...
Private healthcare was ALWAYS good, until governments start to mess with it (and insurances). Socialism destroys all.
In november new election to polish parliament. I will vote AGANIST government.
@@SliceOfDog www.change.org/p/keep-our-nhs-out-of-us-trade-deals Better safe than sorry, even though I agree.
I am not French, i am a Foreign Student in France. Got diagnosed with Lungs Cancer in 2015. 3 Surgeries and 6 Months of Chemotherapy later, i paid 0€. I am so grateful for this !
At the head of the Welsh valleys in a town called Tredegar there were coal mines, iron works etc and poor living conditions, deprivation and industrial injuries. The workers got together and pooled a few pennies a week and employed their own doctor. Other local areas saw the benefit of this and their workers joined up. By the `1930's there were over 30,000 members and they even had their own hospital, surgeon as well as nurses etc. A committee member was Nye Bevan who became Minister of Health after the war and said to the country we are going to 'Tredegarise' you. It will not be free you will have tp pay extra for this it is not a charity. So was born the NHS. Doctors were brought on side by offering them good terms and however venal a doctor may be at heart they want to help and cure people and to do this with the latest equipment, facilities and no cap constraints of ability to pay or insurance limits. The concept of universal healthcare is common in Europe. This also translates into the .(European Health Insurance Card) which entitles any EU citizen to free healthcare in another EU state.
A common assumption by rabid anti healthcare people in the US is the cost. But I read that admin accounts for massive costs in the US. In addition you have people smuggling in drugs from Canada etc because of the rip off prices they are charged. I have only one personal experience of this. We had a dog with Glaucoma and the vet prescribed Pfizer Xalatan. We had to pay the full price for this as it was for our dog. A couple of years later we went to Florida on holiday and asked in a Wal Mart pharmacy the price of Xalatan. We nearly fell over and asked the guy was it a pint bottle instead of the normal 10ml. Price in Europe £8 at the time approx 12 dollars. Price in the US 110 dollars.
If people do not have to pay inflated prices for their drugs, can visit a doctor at no cost, employers do not have to pay medical insurance at current levels then an increase in taxes would probably not result in people being worse off.
A few weeks ago a man was shown leaving a hospital in the US after 60 days being treated for Covid clutching a bill for more than 1 million dollars - disgusting.
Not one person in the UK has been charged even one penny for treatment.
Even in the relatively remote north east of Scotland, my life has been saved by world class surgeons, doctors and nurses. I struggle to put in to words my gratitude, the NHS is cherished for a damn reason.
NHS saved my life in the UK. I've not paid an extra penny and I couldn't be more thankful. I'm not just saying it because I think I would have died - I WOULD have died if treatment was not given within a tight timeframe!
Thank you NHS and the staff involved! Thank you so much!!!
And why should you pay? You already paid in your income tax and national insurance.
I don't understand why anyone would ever pay tax if there is no health care, the American working class is basically paying tax to fund petroleum wars.
I dont understand American politics how basic healthcare is labelled as left leaning centerist?
Isnt that supposed to be granted? Or right leaning centerist values healthcare less?
No, government run healthcare is cancerous. Most things government run are infective and not efficient.
@@Noname-sw8qj There are countries other than America you know?
my mother, living in america, demanded that we not call an ambulance for her when she fell out of bed and couldnt get up, we couldnt help her up on our own either. she became unresponsive within 30 min and we called one anyway. turns out she was septic from an infection and barely survived. she lost the ability to walk and had to go through therapy in a skilled nursing facility for 2 months to get about 10% of her mobility back. she had insurance and she didnt want to use an ambulance because they would still charge her for the ride. total bill for her out of pocket was 18k. thats having insurance. she had insurance and it still nearly broke her financially because she has never made much money wise. yes our system is so absolutely superior.
Greetings from Germany. We love our Health Care System. Here and in rest of Europe pretty similar.
Portugal here. Basically the same as the NHS, except the name (SNS) and that there's a little co-pay (€4,5) for those that can pay (under-18, pregnant, elder, unemployed don't pay).
@@antoniof9756 Same as well for Italy. Long live European way of life!
I was living in Holland ten years ago and had to pay €130 in health insurance per month. That was quite a chunk of my salary.
@@Pluggit1953 i'm not sure how it works in holland but in germany you also pay for insurance and, while it isn't exactly cheap, you don't pay for healthcare in taxes so you can effectively think of it as just another tax. the important part of this model of the insurance system is that the premiums you pay are a percentage of your income and, while you can pay less for not smoking or having a gym membership etc, you will never pay more for having pre existing conditions and there is no lifetime cap. it is also very important that state owned insurance companies exist that cannot turn away anyone, yet still provide coverage for all medically necessary treatments, and that insurance is not linked to employment. These are the vital features the US system sorely lacks.
this model creates competition to ensure a high standard of service and prevent companies monopolising and hiking up prices, and also allows those willing and able to pay for more luxiourious private care.
(in my experience not worth it, all it gets you is a slightly nicer ward, 2 person rooms instead of 4 person but your roomate is probably really entitled and thinks paying extra means they can abuse the staff, and free coffee. you will be seen by the most senior doctor instead of a more junior one but thats not always a good thing. the junior doctor will be just as able to treat you if you have something common/simple and they would have to call the more experienced doctor anyway if you have something comlex. most likely the senior doctor is just gonna be pissed that they got called in to see you because you payed for them, when the junior doctor working that day wouldve been equally capable)
@@Pluggit1953 a lot of americans are paying 500-600! plus 120 to see a dr!
The NHS saved my life, I had a brain tumour removed followed by 2 weeks in hospital and six months of outpatient appointments. If I had been unlucky enough to be American I would have died in agony begging people not to call me an ambulance.
My dad needed heart surgery last year. The most we were bothered about was the bloody hospital parking.
The NHS is probably the best institution I've ever heard of and I have been so lucky to have been treated by them over the years!
Thankyou.
yup. its probably one of the only good things our gov gave to the world. shame the tories spent 70 years trying to kill it
Now don't get overzealous. Being better than American doesn't mean being good.
spent a month in the hospital (UK) for a collapsed lung and Pneumonia, walked in on deaths doors, was given great care by all the nurses and doctors, even had my own en-suite room for a week and a half, meals provided everyday, and when i was ready to go and healthy again, walked out and carried on my day to day life, no bills, no paperwork, just healthcare....
Just healthcare. And what percentage of your income?
@@kevinwagner5344 20% of everything over 12.5k. It also goes on.. Benefits and pensions, the NHS obviously, education, public perotection, government fees, transport, industry and economy, housing, recreation/sport/culture and waste & environment, police, and fire services. Its kind of an all in one package, pay taxes, and get a nice country to live in, while also helping less fortunate people to have a decent start in life.
@@everythinggamingnowSo not just healthcare then? A massive bureaucracy funded with your labor. Why obfuscate that?
If you like third party rationing ok, but let's call it plainly what it is, first.
@@kevinwagner5344 Why are you talking about 'rationing'? Healthcare is not 'rationed' in the UK. Rationing is where each person is only allowed a certain amount of a thing. That's absolutely not the case in the UK. You get what you need, and if you are unfortunate enough to need constant healthcare for your entire life due to whatever condition, then you get that care, with no limits and no payments, ever.
Perhaps you can explain what you mean by 'third party rationing'. I guess you heard that term somewhere. It doesn't mean anything to me.
As for a 'massive bureaucracy', the bureaucracy in the US medical and insurance system is FAR larger, and FAR more expensive. You fund that massive bureaucracy with your labour.
I really don't see what your point is. If you HAVE a point, and are not just repeating some right wing mantra you have heard somewhere, then feel free to explain your point.
@@paulmackilligin1754 The amount of available healthcare is set by governemnt, you don't hear about the people who are allowed to die so you can get treatment.
"No society can legitimately call itself civilised if a sick person is denied medical aid because of lack of means"
- Aneurin Bevan MP, British Minister for Health during the creation of the NHS
i wasnt aware of black European countries.
@@playerone2772 dude, there are countries with cheap and or free public healthcare systems in non-white AND non-european countries. You are so ignorant, or at least I hope are and not a troll with nothing better to do. Your lack of knowledge makes you look bad, not them.
They'd get treatment, they'll just have a bill.
@@joevelosa7056 what an earth are you talking about ??
@@user-vv1do1wg1j f**king massive one the Sates they can't pay .
I don't get what's so insane about it, we have had it since 1863 in Sweden.... Yes 1863!
I'm Canadian and I've never had any problems with our system.
I'm Canadian too and even though our system is not bad, we are nowhere near the NHS. We still have to pay for ambulance and drugs. Many poor people go without prescription drugs because they can't afford them and in emergency some will take a taxi to the hospital to save hundreds of dollars. We seem to be half way between the US system and the NHS.
I'm in Canada and I love our system. ZERO complaints
my mom would have died if it was not due to this system, my family is poor. and when i get my medical degree i will work hard to help more families! god bless canada
I would add basic dental because your teeth are a massive part of your overall health.
But other than that, don't be messing with any healthcare, you'd be taking your life in your own hands if you tried to mess with or do away with our healthcare. Education, too.
And hey, Happy Canada Day!! Grilling and chilling here in Toronto on a beautiful day. 🇨🇦
@@sniperammow4865 That's awesome!
@@JSkyGemini Dental should definitely be in there, probably along with needed medication and basic vision care. I'd happily pay the amount in taxes rather than in supplemental insurance through work. It's coming off the pay cheques of most decently paid folks anyway so why not ensure everyone has the care they need.
I don't really think about it, even while watching this video, but after reading this coment it made me remember. I think our system is good, however I have not been in it much myself. I like my family doctor, and I had a broken arm when I was young, but as I said, I have not had much personal experience with it. But when my grandfather was in the hospital after a car accident, he was treated as an old disposable piece of garbage, not as a human who should be given a chance. There was so much wrong that happened, that when explaining it in person to people there is a disconect and general disbelief of how that is even possible in Canada. From what my mother has gathered through her research and while reaching out to others who have had similar experience, the elderly and handicaped are commonly not treated with proper care and when she spoke to the human rights "something or other" (This happened 8 years ago so I have trouble recalling, and I generally don't think about it despite being quite effected by it) there was a really nice girl on the phone who casually explained that the hospital can refuse treatment to whoever they want if they believe the cost outweighs the benefit. So now I live generally the same as always, but that experience that happened over those 22 months, that has caused so much grief to my mother it comes back to me sometimes like being hit or something but not physically, like emotionally.
I lived in US for over ten years, and I confirm that what this video saying is correct. I could tell personal stories, but it's easier to recommend Michael Moore's film "Sicko". It tells the truth. I wouldn't recommend the US health care "system" on my worst enemy.
Love that film! I cried when our 9/11 first responders were able to get medical treatment, and then we're honored by the Cuban first responders. Access to healthcare is considered a right by so many different countries and cultures. Why do we lag? What are we afraid of? More people getting healthy??
@@fredericpool6754 For the most part I agree. However, I do know that when I asked my dentist's son why he wasn't going on to dental school (he's essentially apprenticing as an assistant/office manager in her small practice), he said it costs $500k and he/they couldn't afford it. I only know of this example, but if it is that expensive, that's ludicrous. That kind of cost also ensures that affluent students have the best access, and that the focus is more on $$$, than on actually helping people through your practice. Incidentally, my dentist also works with people who don't have insurance, like myself; but it's still tough to get all the work I need, since she doesn't control the costs of things like crowns, etc.
I'm from the UK and I was just laughing at American healthcare while watching this lmao
@@fredericpool6754 damn. I get my wisdom teeth out for free, sorry. It just sounds disgusting that they get so rich feeding off the poorer
My sister threw up in the bathroom and some dong thought she was dying or something and called an ambulance over nothing. Nice that he cared, but we got stuck with a bill for few thousand dollars so thats pretty cool
I’m trained and certified by my state to work on an American ambulance, in a major American city, on an island. A big Island, a Long Island.
I turned down offers from private, for-profit ambulance companies during the run up to the pandemic. They’d pay minimum wage, and many less reputable private companies operate as de-facto Medicare fraud mills. Often, those private and transfer ambulance companies are owned by the same people who own for-profit nursing homes, which are dumpster fires.
Going into the pandemic, I tried to tell those around me how inevitable it was that this would turn into a total cluster fuck. Nobody cared until it was them who needed medical attention, and only after they saw the bill and got sticker shock.
Our health care system is completely broken. Our for-profit system is fractured and inefficient. While we often do have some of the best doctors and nurses and pharmacists and surgeons anywhere on earth, the system they work in makes no sense, and ever healthcare worker will admit it. Doctors and nurses are shackled by administrators operating on behalf of corporate, at the expanse of patients and health care workers.
Unsafe staffing ratios are standard operating procedure. Insufficient stocks of critical equipment, meds and PPE is standard .
Nowhere else are people forced to purchase a good or service with NO IDEA how much it will cost until after the fact.
Doctors, nurses, EMTs and Medics cannot tell patients how much a given procedure will cost. The same procedure will vary wildly in cost depending on their insurance plan, and the system is so fractured and inefficient that you need a four year degree in medical billing to even navigate the system. Providers cannot tell their patients, often desperate people having the worst day of their lives, how much something will cost. They don’t have a choice in the matter, they’ll just have to pay whatever their insurance makes them pay, often going into massive debt to pay it, and they cannot get out of it by declaring bankruptcy thanks to changes in our bankruptcy law.
NOWHERE ELSE IS THIS ACCEPTABLE.
Patients should not have to forgo lifesaving medical treatment out of fear of being bankrupted.
Healthcare is not an elastic good. You can’t simply go to the next hospital if you think it’ll cost less. The transfer alone costs $2000 in most cases.
Even out municipal EMS agency, which is run by the largest fire department in the country, somehow pays emts and medics HALF of what firemen make IN THE SAME DEPARTMENT. And that’s AFTER we pay for our own education!
Cops dont pay to go to the academy, they get paid to go to the academy, because we realize they’re critical to public safety. Same goes for firemen. Why, then, do we treat medical services as an afterthought?
The budget for the NYPD is $6 billion a year for operations, plus $5 billion in recurring costs such as pensions disability.
The FDNY has a budget of $2 billion, 87% of which goes to fire. EMS only gets 13% of that $2 billion. It’s insane. They make up two thirds of all 911 ambulances in NYC, took over 1.7 million calls *before the pandemic* in 2019, and still need hospital-run ambulances to fill in the gaps. The hospital run systems are fully integrated into the 911 system and operate seamlessly with fd units, with the same equipment and protocols. But when our mayor is asked about the pay disparity during the height of the pandemic, when emts and medics were having to work double or triple shifts (16-24 hours straight) and many were sleeping in their cars or hotels for fear of bringing COVID home with them to their families, the mayor still said “this is not the time to address that.”
Really? You say that health care workers are heroes, but you’re sacrificing them to inevitable infection because you can’t give them adequate PPE. You say they’re heroes, but you pay them poverty wages, put them in dangerous environments constantly where they are liable to be injured or get sick on the job, and yet you treat them as expendable. And you wonder why the city can’t hold onto ems staff. Everyone who can get out gets out, and those who stay often get jaded and bitter and for good reason..
Our health care workers are the best in the world. They deserve better than this.
We need a unified system. We need consistent protocols across borders. We need subsidized education for healthcare workers. We need to get rid of this culture of fear and litigation and malpractice insurance. We need to give our healthcare workers what they need to do their jobs including adequate pay so they don’t have to work 3 jobs, and back them up when things go sideways. This is insanity. We can do better.
Insurance companies, private nursing homes (many of which are simply Medicaid/Medicare fraud mills whose residents live in abominable conditions), private transfer companies, pharmaceutical conglomerates, all of them stand to lose. I say good. Pharmaceutical companies can still make money in a regulated space, without constantly raping consumers who have no protections or place to turn. There’s no reason insulin or epinephrine auto injectors should cost $1000, that’s all corporate greed.
While we’re at it, maybe we can outlaw the damn pharmaceutical advertisements that gobble up half of most pharma companies operating budgets? Maybe then they won’t be able to cry poverty every time they raise the prices of cheap and long-established meds by 1000% to give their shareholders a bigger quarterly dividend.
!!!! BRAVO !!!! Well - put !!! WHY do Americans resist this when it's working so well in other countries???
nothing but straight facts in this comment
@@kitsiewr Probably our bunch of lying, corporate-owned mouthpiece scumbags for politicians saying how bad it is. And the paranoid, undereducated sheeple eat it up like it’s gospel from on high without a second thought. My only wish is that when (not if) the system falls the crash will be deafening worldwide.
I was shocked the first time my wife took an ambulance and then a few weeks later we had a massive bill to pay. At the time I was younger and thought to myself “This doesn’t make sense, don’t my taxes pay for things like this? She needed help immediately!”
Your taxes payed for the F-35! WELCOME YO THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!
MEURIKA
my healthcare system (US) makes me worried that if I have a major issue I'll be bankrupted.
:(
very scary/draconian state of existence - unimaginable for EU citizens
But at least you have your guns right, they'll protect you!
@@ihave7sacks : Actually, only 20% of US citizens own a gun, but most gun owners have more than one.
@@mutagen7175 U don't understand irony?
We Brits hate anyone who dares touch our NHS or reduce funding for it...
@Steve Terry Firstly, I apologise but Steve Terry is the most English name I have ever heard. Secondly that is EXACTLY what I am saying and I am so grateful that you managed to articulate it properly for me.
Well Steve I know you're not implying the U. S. because you'd be barking up the wrong tree.
@Steve Terry You think a better healthcare system that doesn't have to deal with gun violence is a bad thing?
And show we should.
Jude Chauhan and yet we allow PCTs to yearly slash funding...
Very impressed by the Fox News guests ability to visit the NHS for a month everyday. How did you clever Americans manage to create a tardis but for periods of time?
In Greece we had state owned railway, electric company, telecommunications and health care and they all did great until we entered Eurozone. Then that happened since early 2000s:
All of the above got degraded in a weird and FAST way.
Telecommunications then sold dirty cheap to a German company.
Railway sold dirty cheap to a Chinese company.
Electric company is going to be sold dirty cheap to a German company. (May happen this year)
Health care only remains public but not sure for how long.
The aftermath? Privatization should have made them prosperous, right? NO! They are similarly crappy if not more and the real change is the fact they're FAR MORE expensive!
Privatisation rarely works for a) public service, b) industries that are natural monopolies due to network externalities. It's also not a surprise that most of the public utilities I can think of also falls under category b) (railway, electric plants, water companies).
Life (if you can afford it,) liberty (if you agree with us on everything) and the pursuit of happiness (if you like working long hours in unhealthy conditions for low wages.)
Why wouldn't other countries want to be like the USA?
completely agree
that's why the US has problems with mass emigration, and the president there is trying to build a wall to keep people in.
Pursuit of happiness means the rich get to chase away your happiness.
At least, they seem to behave like it does
"A woman's leg got trapped between a Boston Subway car and the platform,
Her bone was exposed through her thigh,
bleeding heavily,
she begs the bystander not to call ambulance. "
Speechless.
Profits over people. Our Conservatives in the UK have been systematically undermining our NHS for decades now but the people won’t let them privatise it. There would be literal civil unrest if they went that far so they’re slowly starving it and hoping noone notices.
Disposable units, that’s how we are seen
"No, please DON'T call the ambulance, I have to save that money for my FUNERAL in a few days!"
@Realpeopleneverpost Sorry to hear about your daughter's accident, hope she didn't have any serious injuries. Really everyone in this wonderful country could have a more cost-effective medical system that competes the other advanced countries like UK.
@@francischimenti1374 This is not funny! If you don't see the struggle with those unfortunate, who choose not to get help while in great pain, you need to grow up. We all may be in that situation one day.
@@perftech9141 Who the fuck are you to say what's funny? It was an ironic observation and you need to get that stick removed from your ass - if you can afford it
They call our healthcare 'socialised', whereas their healthcare is 'capitalised'
When I was younger in the 90s I wanted to go to the USA, and I would have been help to them being an architect. Now forget about it
USA is great country, as long as you got health and money. If you lose one or another, you most likely won't get second chance there.
As a Scot, the NHS is fantastic, something that surely shouldn't be privatised
Another Random Person let’s see a vote for independence to enshrine it forever in Scotland - anyone who votes for the Union votes for privatisation and American health care reforms. This is a battle which has been lost in England but it isn’t too late for us. Anyone reading this with a Vote - please vote SNP and support indyref 2
Oliver Hulme hang on buddy. A little optimism please
@@user-rz4rw7tk9u what do you think he needs to be optimistic about ? the USA if you are poor your heath care is appalling and will only get better when you choose to make it so and fight to make it free for all that can't afford it at least , that would make me optimistic , when you ditch the American dream and work for the poor and better treatment , a US Comedian once said, it's called the American dream, because you have to be asleep to believe it.
heighwaysonthewing you’ve missed my point. I meant be optimistic about the us trade deal. I don’t know why he’s saying that privatisation is imminent when that hasn’t been said at all.
Oliver Hulme yea vote (Scottish nazi party the SNP) just how do you expect to have (free tuition fees) and a (free nhs) o wait you also want to join the (EU and pay membership fees) (free school meal fees) while paying a percentage of the U.K. debt the Scots cut just where do you expect to get that money from because your not the richest country in the world. Also I doubt the British people would vote to privatise the NHS as they View it as the beating heart of this country
I have had the recent misfortune of a fall and fractured my hip. The hip was one that had been replaced on 2000. I had to ultimately have hip reversion surgery which is where they fitted a new implant and repaired the femur. From the moment I realised what I had done I put my trust and faith in our NHS System. The care I received from the first arrival of the ambulance to being transported and cared for in hospital prior and post surgery has made me realise that the NHS is a jewel we must protect and guard. Don’t be fooled by the political hyperbole that’s being touted . Clearly the motivation is corporate greed.
As a Brit, I have actually legitimately seen someone get thrown out of a persons house for insulting the NHS.
I will say this. I passed out one time and got taken to an American hospital being there my friends said 'You do know the ambulance would charge you right'? I was sat there like 'I never called them'.
They started giving me more than I needed, X-rays, injections and shite and trying to give me pills I turned them down and said I'm good to go and ready to leave. They made me wait even longer. I could have left hours ago but they just had to make me wait longer to charge me more. All in all, I got charged about $3,800 for a 3-4 hour+Ambulancealmost $1,000 an hour. Bare mental I tell ya I can't wait to get a DO NOT CALL AMBULANCE TAG or something. Ending up in hospital and be charged exponentially is mad.
Your whole post is something I've always thought about the US healthcare system - you can get costs imposed on you without consent or a way to opt out. Just imagine it were any other part of life: you walk past a restaurant, and a server walks out and gives you a bill for food you not only haven't ordered, but don't know of. Any example you could think of would (rightly) draw anger, yet when it comes to healthcare, it's somehow not only acceptable but expected that you'd call an ambulance for someone and so incur them those costs if you find them in a state in which they're unable to object to.
I wake up every day happy that I'm not an american.
For many reasons, not just this. lol
Yeah. I've thought that for years. Third world healthcare. Guns on the streets, like a third world country. A third world sized rich poor gap. Political corruption actually enshrined in their constitution and laws. Terrible weather (and I'm from England . . . ) that's too hot, too cold, too windy. A vast amount of money spent on ways of killing other people, again, just like the third world, although that's mainly just a way of subsidizing US business "secretly" (tax breaks are the other) so that they can pretend to be outraged when other countries subsidize their industries, like China. A pitiful knowledge of foreign affairs, leading to laughably ridiculous aggression and muck raking in parts of the world that don't concern them. It's not just a pitiful country internally, it's an international pariah nation, a fact that Obama managed to conceal but Trump is proudly waving around in the breeze for all to see. The very lowest levels of social advancement for individuals. High levels of unhappiness and mental health in the population. Hey, in England, we have been heading that way for years, but we are still a long, long way from the appalling mess over the Atlantic. Greatest country on Earth? Don't get mad. Pity those poor people, pathetically chanting USA, USA, completely ignorant of the vicious pig sty of a country in which they are forced to exist.
Yep me 2! Its no fun having to pull your own teeth out!
I feel you Bro.
@@unclestephen2722 agree, after 5 years of living in US I chose not to go down the path of US citizenship; '3rd world'
@@unclestephen2722 I'm soo glad USA has guns. Self defense is a right. Unlike the shithole of UK.
I'm British. The NHS is the thing I am most proud. Truly incredible. Our nurses and doctors are heroes.
$200-2000 for an ambulance? Had a hypoglycemic crisis driving through an unfamiliar mid-west town last year. $2500 for the ambulance. Turns out the hospital was under a quarter mile away.
There's no justification for the business department outnumbering the medical faculty in a hospital. It's a failure.
I'm glad I live in a country where an ambulance is considered a right.
The only problem with the NHS is it needs more funding not less!
Deliberate underfunding to feed the myth that it's inefficient and struggling.
The problem with the nhs is the fat cats at the top stealing money meant for health care.
More state funding would create more demand. When something is free at the point of use, demand is necessarily almost limitless. Waiting time and GP workload will not reduce because more people will go to A&E or to see their GP for increasingly trivial reasons. It would also likely become less efficient. That's not to say that it couldn't do with more money, just that don't expect all it's problems to suddenly disappear if it were given a blank cheque.
It's kinda sad that the British are more informed about American's healthcare than a portion of Americans
Thank you Mr. Fry!
I think you will unfortunately find this is true of most political issues in the USA. The USA as a whole is not only massively ignorant on many issues, on the issues they feel to be well kept they are legally able to be lied to by the news networks there too. It doesn't help to combat the issues with so much misinformation.
It’s common knowledge for us the health system is screwed in the US. Even before going over on holiday, we are told now to call an ambulance if one or anyone has an accident haha. Also, Mr Fry has a script. The real work is from those behind the scenes, Researching into what is really going on. :)
When Americans are asked what currency the UK uses, they say "what's a currency".
They say “The American Dream’ and I think “The Canadian Dream”
The Dream of Anywhere That's Not a Crazy Country.
@Dhikshith Gajulapalli The US is a great country if you are rich and/or healthy. If you are unhealthy... you really are better off in Canada (or anywhere in Europe, or Japan, or Australia/NZ) anywhere civilized really. Those countries aren't noted for their abuse of civil rights.They somehow manage to have both civil rights and caring for eachother without seeing one as an assault on the other.
@Dhikshith Gajulapalli America is better than the communist countries, I'll give them that. But they are worse than most of the other developed nations.
@Dhikshith Gajulapalli Seriously? Can you at least address it's problems, one of which is the broken healthcare system LITERALLY DOCUMENTED IN THIS VIDEO?
@Dhikshith Gajulapalli Less?! The political spectrum in America has been shifted to the upper right, making Bernie Sanders seems like a crazy commie when he's an average moderate. I call that a big flaw. I think you have been brainwashed by capitalism, and I'll just redirect you to this youtube channel. ruclips.net/channel/UCJm2TgUqtK1_NLBrjNQ1P-w
Please watch everything strange here.
That moment when people BEG to not have an ambulance and don’t want to have ambulances, that’s when you know that your healthcare needs to be fixed.