CNN's Van Jones sits down with Kim Kardashian West after she met with President Trump to commute the sentence of nonviolent drug offender Alice Johnson.
Kim is so much more in control of her life than most powerful people are, especially with such a huge public persona. I've only gained respect for her over the years. She's a goddamn badass and a good person. I really believe that.
So well spoken too. I think people would assume because of what the family are known for and involved in, that she's maybe a little ditsy or just shallow but she manages every question with poise and she really never trips up in any interviews. That is such a talent in my opinion, even the best people sometimes say things in a different way than they intend to or come off negatively but she avoids that so well.
Kim you’ve really become a beautiful person inside & out. You saved 1 person, that you know of. Many people, you have saved that you don’t even know! Kim Kardashian West, you are the total package!!
If she wants to use her platform to do good work then she should be left alone...especially by trolls. She has the fame and fortune to do great things for less fortunate people...hopefully she continues. Good for Kim!
I didn’t know that... but she’s grown so much, I would love to see her with someone who matches more on an intellectual level and where she’s heading with this kinda work.
I applaud Kim for trying to make a difference in someone's life so drastically as this. She is really growing as a person and has come a long way. I hope we see more like this from her.
sll102289 what the fuck are you doing with your life hey?? Atleast she’s helping people in the world! And even if she was shagging him it’s got fuck all to do with you, y u so triggered? And finally she’s not black she’s Arminian! Dumb fuck
A leader in office is even more important & we have a blabbering incoherent idiot & his thugs. Crippling the people of a country is not exactly the way to create stability nor is printing money the taxpayers great great grandchildren’s, great great grandchildren will still be paying back. They making us slaves
No joke watching this interview gave me chills I felt my throat choked and boom tears just came down my face,wow Kim how she said it was my brand or a life those words are so powerful.thanks miss Kimberly Kardashian west hopefully more rich,powerful,famous ppl learn from her ps: good luck and blessings on her new career...
To all the people saying Trump used her, the lawyers used her as well. Because she has a voice, and Kim knows this and is fine with it. Good for her on her choice in this situation.
ScootMagoot46, this was not about celebrities, this was about the culmination of over 8 months of hard work, selfless work on the part of a Kim K. West. Too bad there are douchebags in this world, always trying to inject their negativity. You’re a pathetic person.
Marty Lucas And many years of trafficking drugs from Columbia to ruin peoples lives and destroy black communities She lied I'm court and she's continued to lie and still does She was working earning $21k+ but it wasn't enough she declared herself bankrupt and had her house repossessed the same year she bought a house for cash and three new cars in 9months She's conning you all
Kim K West, famous for fucking Ray J on tape and letting him pee on her, riding off of the hard work of many others. If she was real she wouldn't be parading her all on tv like a prop... Celebrity Pardons...next up??
Chris Carroll-Proctor she did it for herself .!! She did it to save the fame of shallow drowning her name down.!! Let’s be honest there are most desperate people in this world she could have save them not a drug dealer was in prison to be released..!! There are Kidd’s out there no foster care or anyone to help them but where’s Kim Norris .!! Hun.!! I see coz she won’t be front page of news in this help... Attention seeker celebrity.!! That’s what it’s .!!
I got so much respect for her. She could've been a person with so much power and money and do wrong but instead she did the right thing. Always try to help others 💙
Ok I’m seeing some chemistry, mainly from him. But I’m pretty sure 100% of straight men would feel chemistry with Kim K because she’s drop-dead gorgeous🤷🏼♀️ I am liking Kim and Van as a couple (Sorry to kanye, huge fan❤️)
Alice made a quick decision as a mother scared and wanting to support her kids. Any one of us could be in this situation. It's so crazy that she got the sentence she did
Whats not to love & respect in Miss Kim? Shes damned beautiful caring sensitive compassionate & highly ethical & honest (no fake syndrum zones with the Queen)
I applaud Kim K. on her right to involve in a matter that is important in country. I thank her for following through regardless of flack. She made a difference for someone else and that was dope! Thanks Kim!
For whatever marketing stunt or branding blah blah, the fact is a women has been pardoned and gets a second chance with her family. That’s a win. I’m usually tired of the Kardashian Family, but today I have respect that she was able to use her celebrity for actual good.
Much respect for kim. Using her platform to do good. She's blessed to be a blessing. What if every celebrity used their status to help the average. person. She really is good. Human. Being.
To everyone complaining that Kim is not doing enough and should help more people in prison that are innocent, I just have one question. What are you doing to help besides typing pointless opinionated comments on social media outlets? I’ll wait...
There's a huge difference between Kim K and Card I B. Kim came from privilege, she is white. Cardi is from the Bronx, and she is a woman of color. I would much rather hear from Cardi on issues- she's actually very intelligent and way more sincere and real.
Thyalwaysseek she already has hundreds of millions of fans. It seems your fat ass is a little jealous and jaded. Post your pic so I can make fun of how ugly you are please.
It was not 7 months on her part. (she came upon this story 7 months ago and was moved) .she was a celebrity that had the ability to bring it to the fore.
Kim K has more substance than people give her credit for. She doesn’t do drugs, she’s not out all night in night clubs, she cares about the less fortunate and she acquired a law degree with the intention to serve the less fortunate. This is an accomplished lady, and smart as a whip. Why do so many people hate her? Jealousy! She’s an awesome person,
I do respect Kim's overall work ethic. Who am I to judge a successful woman such as she is. The funny thing is that she's saying she took the "backlash" 🤣 She got more good attention for her brand by performing such a humanitarian act. She's no dummy. I have nothing negative to say about the whole thing. You've got to pick your battles in life...and she picked a good one! Her personal decisions and opinions other than that are none of my business. I don't have to be a fan to appreciate this amazing act!
Why are you not sniveling about the HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of parents who are "torn" away from their kids when they commit crimes in America every day? Maybe those illegal immigrants shouldnt intentionally include their kids in their crimes. And fuck you for not caring about the American children growing up without their parents on account of the choices those parents made. Fuck you for not giving a shit about the TENS OF THOUSANDS of legal immigrants who are following our rules and are waiting in line, and respecting their hosts. You are pathetic. Fuck the people who willfully and intentionally use their children as human sheilds. They absolutely SHOULD be taken away from them. They are criminals.
Not a huge fan of Kim but with the platform she has, she can definitely change some things. Better yet, bring more light on things that need to be changed.
Girlfriend talks about her team of lawyers as if she is partner at a law firm. Going to law school and having the foundation of taking all the required classes, briefing cases, presenting oral arguments, writing exams in the Socratic method environment is a necessary element that she does not have or understands.
i couldn't give a fuck about anyone's opinions on her, she is a *FOCUSED, GOAL ORIENTED, SMART* woman and she has achieved so much in her career. people who hate on her and give negativity her way are miserable with their own lives.
Logan Daniels you read that wrong buddy. She’s fully aware of the ways she can and has been used, and she actually said multiple times she wants to be a vessel and her platform would be such a waste if she didn’t let it be used. Also, that hesitation at 8 min mark, was her being confused by why it would even make strategic sense for Trump to use her. He’s already got her family’s (Kanye’s) endorsement. Any more endorsement from her (where people are saying she got used) would just be adding a little on top where there’s already a lot. Makes no meaningful difference. Brand wise, her endorsement wouldn’t legitimize him, so... there’s hardly anything she could give him that he doesn’t already have from her family.
Run your mouth all day about Kim but she made a huge fan out of me for doing this. Literally had so much to lose personally, I'm very happy she uses her platform the way she does.
Great job and act of love and humanithy. Remember just 1 person can even make a change and you did. Imagine if you both switched bodies or were in same situation. We fight for justice and freedom. You did something special. Great gifts come to speicial people. Wether in love, finance or hereafter. Bless all
Gm edagdwg thanks You tube for sharing this story of what happens when you have someone to help you get your life back god bless her only God can give you your life back god bless him for her caring for someone else God bless her for sharing her time God made sure it happened she is a real woman who used her law skills to get what she needed to help other people linda j.🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏☮️☮️☮️☮️❤️❤️❤️💯💯💯
The question isn’t why, the question is how. It’s not moral that idolism is a mover and shaker on human rights when this specific form of idolism springs from ideals antithetical to the issue at hand - equal rights, equal opportunity.
who else came here when they heard kim and van jones are now dating 👀
Me girl tiktok brought me here 😂😂
@@mavellebraddy lmao yessss! same!
Girl yesss omg
Tiktok brought me here lmfaoo
Yep he suave
Kim is so much more in control of her life than most powerful people are, especially with such a huge public persona. I've only gained respect for her over the years. She's a goddamn badass and a good person. I really believe that.
100% agree with her. so proud of her and all she has done with her fame
So well spoken too. I think people would assume because of what the family are known for and involved in, that she's maybe a little ditsy or just shallow but she manages every question with poise and she really never trips up in any interviews. That is such a talent in my opinion, even the best people sometimes say things in a different way than they intend to or come off negatively but she avoids that so well.
I love her now
She trash
OMG!!!! what a statement..!!!!!
Kim you’ve really become a beautiful person inside & out. You saved 1 person, that you know of. Many people, you have saved that you don’t even know! Kim Kardashian West, you are the total package!!
She's ugly inside and out
If she wants to use her platform to do good work then she should be left alone...especially by trolls. She has the fame and fortune to do great things for less fortunate people...hopefully she continues. Good for Kim!
She is the worst
@@roxanneharris24 jealousy is so ugly.
Anyone else here from tiktok?
which tiktok?
At the end of the day she helped a normal human being get back to her family after 22 years. My respects to Kim !!
That is a good match! He is super educated and handsome .. loads of class too.
3 years later people are saying these two are dating.
I didn’t know that... but she’s grown so much, I would love to see her with someone who matches more on an intellectual level and where she’s heading with this kinda work.
of course she gave him the cat she needed to get in the legal world
I applaud Kim for trying to make a difference in someone's life so drastically as this. She is really growing as a person and has come a long way. I hope we see more like this from her.
LOL Americans are so gullible, you just eat up this celebrity bullshit don't you.
She’s studying to become a lawyer now!
You did a great job Kim !!! Don't let anyone tell you different !! Love U Babe 😘
Lol
sll102289 what the fuck are you doing with your life hey?? Atleast she’s helping people in the world! And even if she was shagging him it’s got fuck all to do with you, y u so triggered? And finally she’s not black she’s Arminian! Dumb fuck
I’m here for the tea 🍵👀
It's so lovely to see her use her platform for such good, so strong and eloquent
Can’t believe I’m here because of tik tok lol
Meee tooo lol
Kim practicing diplomacy. At the end of the day is what we need, if we want to make it as a stable country.
A leader in office is even more important & we have a blabbering incoherent idiot & his thugs. Crippling the people of a country is not exactly the way to create stability nor is printing money the taxpayers great great grandchildren’s, great great grandchildren will still be paying back. They making us slaves
I love Kim she’s a smart woman
No joke watching this interview gave me chills I felt my throat choked and boom tears just came down my face,wow Kim how she said it was my brand or a life those words are so powerful.thanks miss Kimberly Kardashian west hopefully more rich,powerful,famous ppl learn from her ps: good luck and blessings on her new career...
Anyone else curious how he pulled her??? 2021 is hitting different.
the lisp
Bet her dad's cheering her on hard! Kim you should've been a lawyer like your dad all along !
To all the people saying Trump used her, the lawyers used her as well. Because she has a voice, and Kim knows this and is fine with it. Good for her on her choice in this situation.
Lol. Only America celebrates idiots.
ScootMagoot46 What country are you from?
ScootMagoot46, this was not about celebrities, this was about the culmination of over 8 months of hard work, selfless work on the part of a Kim K. West.
Too bad there are douchebags in this world, always trying to inject their negativity. You’re a pathetic person.
Marty Lucas
And many years of trafficking drugs from Columbia to ruin peoples lives and destroy black communities
She lied I'm court and she's continued to lie and still does
She was working earning $21k+ but it wasn't enough she declared herself bankrupt and had her house repossessed the same year she bought a house for cash and three new cars in 9months
She's conning you all
Kim K West, famous for fucking Ray J on tape and letting him pee on her, riding off of the hard work of many others. If she was real she wouldn't be parading her all on tv like a prop... Celebrity Pardons...next up??
She did a great thing. I never expected this from her, and I hope she continues to use her name to do more.
Chris Carroll-Proctor she did it for herself .!! She did it to save the fame of shallow drowning her name down.!!
Let’s be honest there are most desperate people in this world she could have save them not a drug dealer was in prison to be released..!!
There are Kidd’s out there no foster care or anyone to help them but where’s Kim Norris .!! Hun.!!
I see coz she won’t be front page of news in this help...
Attention seeker celebrity.!! That’s what it’s .!!
@@shahinportohfeh1446 let her help those inmates. And you can help all those more desperate people.
There's alot of chemistry here👀☕
Boy 😭😂
@@maz8429 😂 I heard he rejected her. I would have liked them tho. But yh
@@no-one00 bruhh savage didn't even know that will have to read about it 😭
@@no-one00 You heard wrong. She already said he was nit her type numerous times
Gossip brought me here.....
Who’s here after dating rumors 🙄 lol
Lol me 😂😂
Watching Van Jones talk girly to Kim is terrifying.
I got so much respect for her.
She could've been a person with so much power and money and do wrong but instead she did the right thing.
Always try to help others 💙
I'm in tears watching her speak! She did a great thing!
Van is taller, more muscular, and more calm. He’s not as rich as Kanye but you don’t need money as long as you have good looks like Van 🤷🏽♂️
😂
She is really nice and real. 👌💯
Ok I’m seeing some chemistry, mainly from him. But I’m pretty sure 100% of straight men would feel chemistry with Kim K because she’s drop-dead gorgeous🤷🏼♀️
I am liking Kim and Van as a couple (Sorry to kanye, huge fan❤️)
omg me too!
Alice made a quick decision as a mother scared and wanting to support her kids. Any one of us could be in this situation. It's so crazy that she got the sentence she did
what an amazing human 🙌🏽
Tefi sent me 👀
Whats not to love & respect in Miss Kim? Shes damned beautiful caring sensitive compassionate & highly ethical & honest (no fake syndrum zones with the Queen)
I applaud Kim K. on her right to involve in a matter that is important in country. I thank her for following through regardless of flack. She made a difference for someone else and that was dope! Thanks Kim!
It’s five am, and this is the one thing my brain cells are watching
For whatever marketing stunt or branding blah blah, the fact is a women has been pardoned and gets a second chance with her family. That’s a win. I’m usually tired of the Kardashian Family, but today I have respect that she was able to use her celebrity for actual good.
Im proud of her for finally using her platform for good instead of being so self centered, i like this side of her!
He was plotting on them cheeeeeks
Big plotting 😂
Don’t blame him tho
@@barackojamba fax
😂😂
😅
This is who she cheated on Kanye with 😬
Jessica Wilson how you know that?
Ms Kardashian will become a real amazing Lawyer.
Those are only internet fairy tales
Troy Knight a celebrity gossip blogger, gossipoftheciti, said she’s dating Van Jones and made him sign an NDA
the link please
I’m glad Kim got involved she did an amazing thing! I hope she continues to use her platform for good 👍🏼
Much respect for kim. Using her platform to do good. She's blessed to be a blessing. What if every celebrity used their status to help the average. person. She really is good. Human. Being.
This is the 1st time I ever heard Kim speak.
Are the rumors about you and Kim kardashian true?
Van jones: No comment....but yes!
To everyone complaining that Kim is not doing enough and should help more people in prison that are innocent, I just have one question. What are you doing to help besides typing pointless opinionated comments on social media outlets? I’ll wait...
I normally dont fuck with the Kardashians but mad respect Kim for putting the politics aside and worrying about a human life first.
What a great woman. I had no idea she was doing all this... never been a fan of her tbh. But from today I am... that’s just amazing.
When is cardi B meeting trump for the health care reform?
Maryam Mohamed okuurrrrrr
"Where's Jah Rul?"
There's a huge difference between Kim K and Card I B. Kim came from privilege, she is white. Cardi is from the Bronx, and she is a woman of color. I would much rather hear from Cardi on issues- she's actually very intelligent and way more sincere and real.
Right!?
Darling Nikki you’re kidding right??
Kim been smashing this guy lol
He’s totally in love with her lol ngl this is the kinda guy Kim needs. But when she realizes Kanye “used her” ooooooo girl
He did not use her and kanye west will rise above this mess
@@lynettesmith3500 maybe he will maybe not so much.
Why do you think Kanye used her?
I would say she used him.
Wdym she used Kanye to fullest extent. She is who she is today because of him!!
Seeing that fireplace while is 90ºF (32ºC) outside is KILLING me.
Also, Kim Kween.
Kim and Van sitting in a tree
K I S S I N G. So happy for her she deserves a good guy.
This comment is so childish but I love it🤣🤣
@@Sxmxavi yeah I had it singing in my head lol still a kid at heart. And hopeless romantic
Howdy fellow amateur detectives, who’s here on 7 January 2021 to investigate? 🔬😅We’ve been at home too loooooong 😂 smh at myself
If she say “like” 1 more fucking time!!🙄🤛🏽🤦🏽♀️
Always respected her hustle, now I respect her heart as well. This a bad woman right here
If she truly means what she is saying, I'll have a ton more respect for her.
God job Kim. Did What she felt she had to do and actually got something done fore someone else. Who cares what Trump's motives are.
Trump groped KK first, no?
It had nothing to do with that trashy whore caring about another person, it had everything to do with gaining more publicity for herself.
Thyalwaysseek and that her husband wants to run for president in 2020
Thyalwaysseek she already has hundreds of millions of fans. It seems your fat ass is a little jealous and jaded. Post your pic so I can make fun of how ugly you are please.
She’s a dumb fuck.
Great job Kim ❤
It was not 7 months on her part. (she came upon this story 7 months ago and was moved) .she was a celebrity that had the ability to bring it to the fore.
Kim K has more substance than people give her credit for. She doesn’t do drugs, she’s not out all night in night clubs, she cares about the less fortunate and she acquired a law degree with the intention to serve the less fortunate.
This is an accomplished lady, and smart as a whip. Why do so many people hate her? Jealousy!
She’s an awesome person,
Well she’s 40 years old so not doing drugs or going clubbing isn’t an accomplishment rather it should be the norm.
I do respect Kim's overall work ethic. Who am I to judge a successful woman such as she is. The funny thing is that she's saying she took the "backlash" 🤣 She got more good attention for her brand by performing such a humanitarian act. She's no dummy. I have nothing negative to say about the whole thing. You've got to pick your battles in life...and she picked a good one! Her personal decisions and opinions other than that are none of my business. I don't have to be a fan to appreciate this amazing act!
They Are Perfect together
If it was more people like Kim in the world.The world would be a better place.It's called compassion.
Ok kim now help 2000 kids being ripped from thier parents. Start calling the white house now.
she wont - because there is no publicity for that kinda good deed !
Red Ring of Death are you serious it's all Trump!! All Trump has to do is SIGN THE PAPER!! 😞😞
Why are you not sniveling about the HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of parents who are "torn" away from their kids when they commit crimes in America every day? Maybe those illegal immigrants shouldnt intentionally include their kids in their crimes. And fuck you for not caring about the American children growing up without their parents on account of the choices those parents made. Fuck you for not giving a shit about the TENS OF THOUSANDS of legal immigrants who are following our rules and are waiting in line, and respecting their hosts. You are pathetic. Fuck the people who willfully and intentionally use their children as human sheilds. They absolutely SHOULD be taken away from them. They are criminals.
Sorry..but the kids are part of a crime there parents commited put them on a bus and ship them back to mexico
President sucks and Don't deserve any respect
Hugs without cigars? At least she doesn't call paparazzi to peddle booze. Lmao
Not a huge fan of Kim but with the platform she has, she can definitely change some things. Better yet, bring more light on things that need to be changed.
Lol. She’s a worthless fuck. And horrible role model. And a fake fuck.
I hit a like button what she said in 6th minute..
Did she ride van after this, looking at those bicycle riding attire definitely rode something after this
😂😂😂
Obsessed with power, the power, so powerful!
Kim deserves praise. If she could have a word with Don about children being taken from their parents that'll be cool.
Benn Eden that story is fake news
Mykee Wattz Curious. Does making random RUclips comments increase your number of soundcloud clicks?
Benn Eden and it can if I weren’t on political commentary.
Mykee Wattz it made me click. That’s some high quality rapping.
Benn Eden thanks man what’s your email I’ll send you some stuff not out yet!
Is this supposed to make us forget that Kanye said that slavery was a choice? Cue trolls: now
Lava Lover Kim is not Kanye.
They are both shills for Trump
Lava Lover maybe Kanye meant a choice by southern democrats to keep slavery around...🤓
how about we start with facts. last time i checked, that is not what kanye said.
Really? what did he say J.Jo?
Beautiful. Not a word I would use to describe Kim Kardashian.
She looks like a foot.
Roger Wilco you sound stupid
Jim Alley you’re so fucking rude
Girlfriend talks about her team of lawyers as if she is partner at a law firm. Going to law school and having the foundation of taking all the required classes, briefing cases, presenting oral arguments, writing exams in the Socratic method environment is a necessary element that she does not have or understands.
This didn’t age well
I just adore her! These haters can suck it
Equal Justice Initiative!!!! Kim, please contact them!!! Join forces with other influential people too!!!
Kanyes a very lucky man and those around Kim
genuine person.
Edit: She is also very hot
But why is she wearing workout gear? Is she going running after this interview?
How about lobbying for all the actually innocent people in jail that have been wrongly convicted to life without parole? #brokenjusticesystem
Nawar one step at a time
She is studying law right now to help more people. So give it time .
i couldn't give a fuck about anyone's opinions on her, she is a *FOCUSED, GOAL ORIENTED, SMART* woman and she has achieved so much in her career. people who hate on her and give negativity her way are miserable with their own lives.
Van Jones?? The nothing burger guy???? LOL
Van jones: we are getting into very scary Territory.
Kanye west: indeed. 💯
I am now a KK conversion...bless you Kim.💥...ive had my own jail injustice, and folks...This WAS huge!
They make a fantastic couple.
😂😂😂 Baby what Are You Taking About ?
Aaaand _this_ is when Van Jones jumped the shark. For the second time (at least).
Kim? Political aspirations? Really? Have you no shame?
habirton
Exactly! Thank you.
Like America isn’t screwed up with Trump as president. Now, we are entertaining the idea that Kim can be one too. 🤦🏻♀️
lc11214 kim would be better than trump.
Happy 40th Birthday to Kim Kardashian🎂🎁🎈🎉🎂🎁🎈🎉🎂🎁🎈🎉🎂🎁🎈🎉🎂🎁🎈🎉🎂🎁🎈🎉🎂🎁🎈🎉🎁🎁🎈🎉🎂🎁🎈🎉🎂🎁🎈🎂🎁🎈🎉
Must have a new kardashian season coming out soon..
Go Kim! A random human life save. Good for you. It's your win.
Go Kim Jong-un? BFF with sicko Donald?
She tryna clean up her image
She got used and doesn't even know it.
Logan Daniels how she got used?
Logan Daniels you read that wrong buddy. She’s fully aware of the ways she can and has been used, and she actually said multiple times she wants to be a vessel and her platform would be such a waste if she didn’t let it be used. Also, that hesitation at 8 min mark, was her being confused by why it would even make strategic sense for Trump to use her. He’s already got her family’s (Kanye’s) endorsement. Any more endorsement from her (where people are saying she got used) would just be adding a little on top where there’s already a lot. Makes no meaningful difference. Brand wise, her endorsement wouldn’t legitimize him, so... there’s hardly anything she could give him that he doesn’t already have from her family.
Run your mouth all day about Kim but she made a huge fan out of me for doing this. Literally had so much to lose personally, I'm very happy she uses her platform the way she does.
Great job and act of love and humanithy. Remember just 1 person can even make a change and you did. Imagine if you both switched bodies or were in same situation.
We fight for justice and freedom. You did something special. Great gifts come to speicial people. Wether in love, finance or hereafter. Bless all
She is teaming up with people and giving her energy and using her.platform to help these people
Privilege at it finest
Somehow someway, CNN again trys to make the shit about ppl not liking trump... shit is getting more than pitiful
Gm edagdwg thanks You tube for sharing this story of what happens when you have someone to help you get your life back god bless her only God can give you your life back god bless him for her caring for someone else God bless her for sharing her time God made sure it happened she is a real woman who used her law skills to get what she needed to help other people linda j.🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏☮️☮️☮️☮️❤️❤️❤️💯💯💯
It all hits her at 8:44
So what now ?? Give her a novel price?
Novel price?😂😂😂
We rejoice in goodness! :)
Big Celebrity or not, it’s all a simulation.
The question isn’t why, the question is how. It’s not moral that idolism is a mover and shaker on human rights when this specific form of idolism springs from ideals antithetical to the issue at hand - equal rights, equal opportunity.