So basically you have to get right up on the targets so that the light ing strikes hit them as well, can't just fire it off from a distance and expect to get the super energy back
I may have missed it if you mentioned this idea in the video or not, but in order for the super energy to actually be refunded do you think it requires you to get kills with the initial jolt proc when the staff lands and the following arc pulses aren't being counted towards the energy refund? Love the vids btw 👍
Not really I triggeree it ton using blind. Jolt by its nature really only effects the one target so its jyst à function of how jolt functions but its still obviously à very strong verb.
nah jolts great. issue is, thats kinda it. nobody is running arc to spec into blind, and arc has nothing else. arc has two offensive verbs, and one sucks while the other is kinda particular.
@@loreseeker6604 Idk, even then, "Arc Debuff" is super inconsistent when it comes to aiming for something. They were the worst pathfinder node that flat out removed it because of how terribly inconsistent it was. You could kill 20 arc blind enemies and only get 1 to 3 kill progress on it. Arc may just need a massive pass over to clean it's bugs and issues when synergizing with it
@@exaltedfalchion7441 I agree with the stuff about nodes to a degree, but thzt doesnt mezn thzts yrue for this exotic as well your judt assuming it. I can only tell you what I have observéd myself. When I used à build with spark of bezcons I got my super back very fast so I can only assume it was working. You can say whatever you want but thats what I have obseved myself and I believe my own eyes over randoms on the internet. Your welcome to your opinion of course and i am not saying they shpuld do some work on the exotic merely thzt in my experience the arc blind effect was vety consistent.
This explains so much. fwiw Queenbreaker is a great way to guarantee the blind since it chains to enemies near the target and can be reapplied quickly without cooldown.
I'm sure they test it but it's probably not on a wide enough scale for it to really account for anything. It could be like 5 dudes in a room just playing for a couple hours and saying its good.
My guess is that it has an internal cooldown for the super energy granted on debuff kills, but if you super during that cooldown you don’t get the regen you’re supposed to. Edit: and maybe it accidentally negates ALL super energy gained from kills during the cooldown? Edit 2: you didn’t mention the best part of this exotic, the HUGE super energy boost you get from downing debuffed majors and champs
Spirit of Galanor has a pretty similar issue where it sometimes won't give any super back. Tether works like every time but supers like Storms Edge is inconsistent, even more so when you go Transcendent. Could be a similar thing happening
I noticed the same thing. Thank you for making a video about it. I was running it and constantly pausing to read the exotic description, wondering if I was going insane. How it stands is very unfortunate. How it should work is amazing. It’s a shame that it currently misbehaving.
I just realized this turns gathering storm into suped up version the ascension aspect. Jolting enemies and amplifying allies, and even activating during a spin animation lol
One for the things that could be happening is that because casting the super doesn't immediately activate it (meaning it still shows your super bar is full) and the jolt is killing things BEFORE your super is used, it isn't charging it properly and instead applying it during the spin before the throw, almost like how celestial works (refunding after the super animation and shot is done) instead of galanor, where it applies during the animation, but after the super is "casted".
I like the iea of the rework for Raiju's Harness, but regardless of the text or activation being correct, it just seems like a less consistant shards of Galanor. For arc Hunter Im still going to main an Exotic Class mod to get the most damage out of my super rather than use a exotic to turn my one-off -super into an ad clear.
@@FlashesSoccer011Tbf, I don't blame them for getting it mixed up or instantly assuming you'd only ever use it with Prismatic. Not many people will actually use pure Arc subclasses over Prismatic. Prismatic just does the same thing but better in a lot of instances when considering arc. Arc isn't in a good place.
From my testing its the things you kill with the initial lightning call when you pop the super. The part that jolts what's around the player, THATS what refunds the super energy. Or at least the how I've been consistently refunding my super.
Have you tried paying attention to lightning that is called down on you and how many enemies that lightning kills? Maybe its giving you energy back based on the damage of that specific lightning, not the entire super.
@@tristanlambert658 I prefer it in the heavy slot paired with a volt shot primary and disorientating gl he damage just needs to be buffed, but I like to solo quite a bit
Gathering storm and Raiju both has the same jolting effects, so it could be one or the other doing the cancellation or returning energy. Lethal current also makes blinding effects on combination blow after dodging...
I think you're on the money with how the super regen works, however I believe it isn't supposed to only give you the energy when using the super. I just think that when using things other than the super to kill debuffed targets, the exotic isn't triggering. If it was only the super, imo this exotic is way too clunky and hard to take advantage of. If we think about new Skull or Shards of Galanor, their ease of use is way higher with their returns being the same if not more versatile, because it needs no setup. Hell during long Damage phases you can get up to 3 barrages with galanors and paired with a thresh weapon or bad juju Skull gives you a Nova back as fast as 10s. If this right now is the intended state, it definetely needs a Quality of life imrovement. If kills other than the super itself not giving energy is bugged, that needs to be fixed, or just added if it's not. Otherwise I don't see a reason to run this over Stareaters. Not only because they're just better with same or even faster Super regen on top of a DMG buff, but also because it isn't as annoying to use.
Not surprising. I do find it odd all these people have videos (which at this point it feels like content creators have the same AI generated builds and they just voice over it) and it’s never been brought up or noticed (at least in all the build videos I’ve seen). Definitely what sets you far apart from the sea of content creators and hats off to you. Realistically, it should do all of the above. Keep that same functionality that gives it between 25-50% super back on activation AND super energy killing arc debuffed targets with something that isn’t your super. It sounds kind of OP but we’re so power crept right now it should fall in line with other things that exist. Skull of Dire Ahamkara is letting you spam Nova Bombs. Curiass of the Falling Star is letting you spam buffed Thundercrashes for spamming Consecration. Celestial Nighthawk gives you a strong single Goldy that gives super back on a kill and buffs a weapon… this thing needs all of its sounded functionality to keep up. Arc has basically been stripped. You can have some success with Gifted Conviction but it’s better on Prismstic because of your ability to branch out for more DR, potential restoration, other supers and not being locked into close range melee. Punch build also arguably better on Prismstic for many of the same reasons plus freeing up exotic getting invisibility and weakening from an aspect. Gathering Storm spam is about all that could keep up in the meta and it’s not going to get slower paced… we’re too OP at this point to turn it all back this far into the game’s life cycle.
I hate when they make exotics this situational. If you want to take full advantage you need a boss that is surrounded by enemies, just not one's that are too weak and die on the initial hit. Or if you want to add clear, you need to make sure you throw a blinding grenade first to refund super energy. Either way, a Deadfall Tether would probably be more useful and Rigs would give half your energy back anyway, except in the current dungeon where tether is disabled.
Ok so I've got...not a theory on why its happening but some similarities to another similar bug or interaction. Spirit of Galanor. It's wildly inconsistent with how much super it gives with it sometimes not giving any. This happens more often when you go Transcendent. Tether is much more consistent but things like Storms Edge? Sometimes you get half of your super back with a full hit, sometimes it doesn't give you anything. I wonder if they just slapped the same line of code handling Spirit of Galanor causing it to have the same exact issues.
So I'm not sure if you've texted this, and I could be wrong, but maybe it's ability damage on arc debuffed targets? I've been running it a lot in the dungeon as well, and I've noticed a lot of bursts of super energy after using the tempest strike/ascension combo, especially if I throw a flashbang first
Yeah, I run it with tempest and ascension when running onslaught and get so much super energy when defeating targets with them. It's bugged one way or another. Whether the text is wrong or it's working incorrectly, it's not doing what it says it does at all.
I wonder if it's tied into primary weapons generating more super energy, since jolt kills don't actually count as weapon kills....it's possible that at least for the first part you've just got a bunch of different values and multipliers conveniently lining up, but....yeah that is *weird* 😅
I get that they had layoffs and whatnot, but the bugs on stuff and the long turnaround to fix them is ridiculous. 3 weeks to fix mask of fealty? Almost a month to fix ignitions (which they didnt bother to put in patch notes)? Add in the drama surrounding perk weighting. Something has to give
Cool guy... Awesome video as usual bro. Being curious I looked at your account activity through the companion app and noticed you were going into the Garden of salvation raid and repeatedly getting 25 or 27 kills then backing out and going back in. Is there a solo farm there? If so could you make a video on it? Also I had an idea for a video "Legato 11 vs Sojourner's Tale" I'd be interested in your opinion on which is the better of the two. I mean they're basically the same but it's an idea you know. Keep it up dude
I use that area for testing. Every weapon i test there. Large ad density, but they are raid ads. They don't get dropped like patrol ones, a little beefier. Good area to show perks and builds.
So what you're saying is I should use this for my solo/flawless Vesper's Host run? Because she will stand next to where she spawns clones and then this will jolt the clones a lot and probably kill them... and then I get even more super energy back for killing boss tier enemies... muahahahahahahaha!!! Anyways, very interesting video. Thank you for putting this together it makes a lot more sense now.
I found the only way to consistently get the super regain from kills was to invedt in blind. Blinding enemies with things like spark of beacons workedfor me consistently. Plus beacons with arc weapons like indebted kindness and grand overture go very hard with bezcons anyway. Is a same it doesnt also work with enemies killed by jolt as well.
2:40 couldn't the primary weapon's boost to giving super energy be making up for the fact you're blinding more enemies and have more debuffed targets giving bonus energy?
Not following. Arc primary auto vs void primary auto? Regardless, in both arc cases. Defeating multiple arc debuffed targets, in theory, should result in more gathering storm energy, right? Just out of the gate. One if not both of them.
@@CoolGuyGames I was meaning the indebted kindness vs the arc auto, indebted might've got more arc debuffs vs the auto's natural boost to super energy gains by being a primary, but watching further both of them getting less gains than the void was kinda odd. They should be giving way more super gains, I guess the exotic is just not working as intended.
The real question is name me encounters its actually useful. Other than the servitor boss in the dungeon where would you actually use it over star eaters
This is still kinda wrong. Maven put out a video where she highlights that the lighting that comes down is on the player and not the staff itself. So the adds under him at 5:50 are causing the refund, potentially the ones rebuffed as well
The problem with arc is there's no healing unless you're using combination blow like do you really need to run high recovery and go hide until you heal?
Doesn’t primary weapon damage build super energy faster than special or ability damage? So that may account for the disparity. If you’re downing enemies with jolt, not primary weapon damage, you’re getting the lower rate of super generation for that damage
Here's the thing though. Auto is arc primary, sidearm arc special, auto void primary. Think about it. *if* arc debuffed targets gave more super energy, I downed multiple arc debuffed targets. If that worked, don't you think the super would be more? Just in general.
@@CoolGuyGames did you try testing the same arc weapons without the exotic to see the difference there? That would prove to be a great control set of data! If the super generation for arc jolting weapon is nearly identical with or without raiju’s, then we know for sure that Raiju’s description definitely means only for kills on debuffed targets from gathering storm. But if non-raiju’s arc jolting weapon is generating noticeably less super, then raiju’s is doing something
This is one of the worst exotic reworks in a long time. Its still ridiculously terrible. If you are using gathering storm, there is no reason to use anything other than star eaters.
2 new exotic armor effects for hunters this season, 2 bugged exotics... Come on, do they even test things once ? And if the current efect is supposed to be real one, it's so mid and extremely situational.
so, it is a energy return exotic that doesn't buff the said exotic and only works situationally, ok, so extremely bad and worse for hunters than the skull is for warlocks, got it, trash can engage
Yeah the inconsistency definitely confused the hell out of me. For example at the servitor boss in Vesper, I chucked the super down the middle of the horde of shanks as soon as I got teleported, got 50% back. I then did the same thing again and got nothing. So I thought before the second toss “oh, guess I don’t have to hit anything around me for the super refund”. Buuuut yeaaa then the second throw happened and really realized “yeaaa this ain’t working properly” Still, a really good exotic tho! Hope they can address the inconsistency and fix the bonus super energy from arc debuffed enemy kills
Ex diris damage buff not working. Raijuu bugged. Mask of fealty bugged. Last word (actually a beneficial bug) bugged. Onslaught bugged. Probably a lot more but just gotta laugh at this point
@@AdenTheWolf yeah its good that theyre not buzzkills but they also should address the other bugs. They always are quick to fix stuff that too op but when its underpowered due to a bug it sometimes stays that way for months until they even acknowledge it
The game has been disintegrating around us for awhile. With some good effects like last word, and with some less good effects like ignitions not working, the new hunter exotic shipping bugged, just a fuggin mess. The people they decided to keep on are clearly incompetent. Prolly all just gay nepo babies left at Bungo rn
Thank you for watching. I kept testing it and its the new lightning from gathering storm on arc debuff targets more so than the actual super staff.
its working as intended, just like how geomag stabilizers on warlock works. (except it does 2 more things on super cast)
I can’t take off ex diris with raijus
So basically you have to get right up on the targets so that the light ing strikes hit them as well, can't just fire it off from a distance and expect to get the super energy back
I may have missed it if you mentioned this idea in the video or not, but in order for the super energy to actually be refunded do you think it requires you to get kills with the initial jolt proc when the staff lands and the following arc pulses aren't being counted towards the energy refund? Love the vids btw 👍
Legit the most trusted opinion on anything destiny related IMO
Except for NOT recommending attrition orbs on pyroelectric propellant. Sinful. He’s still the man tho.
Hard agree.
This guy gets it
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tldr: arc verbs suck so bad they cant even trigger the exotic perk lol
Not really I triggeree it ton using blind. Jolt by its nature really only effects the one target so its jyst à function of how jolt functions but its still obviously à very strong verb.
@@loreseeker6604 there's proof that arc verbs aren't adding any more super energy than a void auto rifle... in the same video you're commenting on...
nah jolts great. issue is, thats kinda it. nobody is running arc to spec into blind, and arc has nothing else. arc has two offensive verbs, and one sucks while the other is kinda particular.
@@loreseeker6604 Idk, even then, "Arc Debuff" is super inconsistent when it comes to aiming for something. They were the worst pathfinder node that flat out removed it because of how terribly inconsistent it was. You could kill 20 arc blind enemies and only get 1 to 3 kill progress on it. Arc may just need a massive pass over to clean it's bugs and issues when synergizing with it
@@exaltedfalchion7441 I agree with the stuff about nodes to a degree, but thzt doesnt mezn thzts yrue for this exotic as well your judt assuming it. I can only tell you what I have observéd myself. When I used à build with spark of bezcons I got my super back very fast so I can only assume it was working. You can say whatever you want but thats what I have obseved myself and I believe my own eyes over randoms on the internet. Your welcome to your opinion of course and i am not saying they shpuld do some work on the exotic merely thzt in my experience the arc blind effect was vety consistent.
Bungie and a bugged exotic. Name a more iconic combo.
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Hunter exotics specifically
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Telesto and game breaking
0:29 A wild Cammy is spotted :o
This explains so much. fwiw Queenbreaker is a great way to guarantee the blind since it chains to enemies near the target and can be reapplied quickly without cooldown.
Add this to the massive pile of bugs released with Revenant. It's like they just code something one time and ship it. No testing involved.
im rlly angry they havent fixed the potion brewing softlock
qa got sacked by layoffs. the bugs are going to get worse before they get better again.
I'm sure they test it but it's probably not on a wide enough scale for it to really account for anything. It could be like 5 dudes in a room just playing for a couple hours and saying its good.
This is just the natural effect of firing 1/3 of staff, especially those “useless” non-revenue generating roles
My guess is that it has an internal cooldown for the super energy granted on debuff kills, but if you super during that cooldown you don’t get the regen you’re supposed to.
Edit: and maybe it accidentally negates ALL super energy gained from kills during the cooldown?
Edit 2: you didn’t mention the best part of this exotic, the HUGE super energy boost you get from downing debuffed majors and champs
That would actually make so much sense, I 100% think that’s what it is.
Spirit of Galanor has a pretty similar issue where it sometimes won't give any super back. Tether works like every time but supers like Storms Edge is inconsistent, even more so when you go Transcendent. Could be a similar thing happening
I thought something was wrong with raijus since the beginning of the season but I haven't been able to put it to words. thank you for making this vid
I noticed the same thing. Thank you for making a video about it. I was running it and constantly pausing to read the exotic description, wondering if I was going insane. How it stands is very unfortunate. How it should work is amazing. It’s a shame that it currently misbehaving.
The lighting strike comes down on you so if you’re surrounded it will return more super energy even if you throw the staff away
*if* the jolt works. Multiple times in this video i do that and no super energy back.
Thanks for gettin nerdy with it buddy
I thought I was going crazy. This makes a lot more sense. Appreciate your attention to detail.
Thank you for making this video. I just made a Raiju's Harness build last night and was confused why it was so inconsistent
I just realized this turns gathering storm into suped up version the ascension aspect. Jolting enemies and amplifying allies, and even activating during a spin animation lol
the title is so aggro lmao, wasn't ready for it first thing in the morning
One for the things that could be happening is that because casting the super doesn't immediately activate it (meaning it still shows your super bar is full) and the jolt is killing things BEFORE your super is used, it isn't charging it properly and instead applying it during the spin before the throw, almost like how celestial works (refunding after the super animation and shot is done) instead of galanor, where it applies during the animation, but after the super is "casted".
appreciate the deep dive! Makes sense to me
I like the iea of the rework for Raiju's Harness, but regardless of the text or activation being correct, it just seems like a less consistant shards of Galanor. For arc Hunter Im still going to main an Exotic Class mod to get the most damage out of my super rather than use a exotic to turn my one-off -super into an ad clear.
Exotic class items only work in prismatic. You can't even use one on arc.
@@FlashesSoccer011Tbf, I don't blame them for getting it mixed up or instantly assuming you'd only ever use it with Prismatic. Not many people will actually use pure Arc subclasses over Prismatic.
Prismatic just does the same thing but better in a lot of instances when considering arc. Arc isn't in a good place.
From my testing its the things you kill with the initial lightning call when you pop the super. The part that jolts what's around the player, THATS what refunds the super energy. Or at least the how I've been consistently refunding my super.
Have you tried paying attention to lightning that is called down on you and how many enemies that lightning kills? Maybe its giving you energy back based on the damage of that specific lightning, not the entire super.
I love it when he shows me the receipts.
FINALLY I BEEN DYING TO LEARN MORE ABT THIS EXOTIC BUT NO ONE DID A GOOD REVIEW FOR IT YET
Have you tried it with Queensbreaker? I feel like everyone forgets that it blinds mobs and causes lightning chains
QB is better than most think damage is low but it's so useful
@@eartharrow6772if it was a special weapon people would love it, but right now we can’t justify giving up our DPS slot on a second special weapon.
@@tristanlambert658 I prefer it in the heavy slot paired with a volt shot primary and disorientating gl he damage just needs to be buffed, but I like to solo quite a bit
0:32 that's about the most accurately accurate way to accurately describe this specific exotic
Really appreciate the breakdown on this Exotic. I’ve enjoyed using this season but I def noticed the inconsistency. Hope bungo resolves this soon
Glad I’m not crazy, I knew something was off with it but couldn’t figure out why the super gain was inconsistent.
Gathering storm and Raiju both has the same jolting effects, so it could be one or the other doing the cancellation or returning energy. Lethal current also makes blinding effects on combination blow after dodging...
Good call
I think you're on the money with how the super regen works, however I believe it isn't supposed to only give you the energy when using the super.
I just think that when using things other than the super to kill debuffed targets, the exotic isn't triggering.
If it was only the super, imo this exotic is way too clunky and hard to take advantage of.
If we think about new Skull or Shards of Galanor, their ease of use is way higher with their returns being the same if not more versatile, because it needs no setup.
Hell during long Damage phases you can get up to 3 barrages with galanors and paired with a thresh weapon or bad juju Skull gives you a Nova back as fast as 10s.
If this right now is the intended state, it definetely needs a Quality of life imrovement.
If kills other than the super itself not giving energy is bugged, that needs to be fixed, or just added if it's not.
Otherwise I don't see a reason to run this over Stareaters.
Not only because they're just better with same or even faster Super regen on top of a DMG buff, but also because it isn't as annoying to use.
I would have 100% believed it was giving me super back. Ty mr coolguy 😎
Not surprising. I do find it odd all these people have videos (which at this point it feels like content creators have the same AI generated builds and they just voice over it) and it’s never been brought up or noticed (at least in all the build videos I’ve seen).
Definitely what sets you far apart from the sea of content creators and hats off to you.
Realistically, it should do all of the above. Keep that same functionality that gives it between 25-50% super back on activation AND super energy killing arc debuffed targets with something that isn’t your super.
It sounds kind of OP but we’re so power crept right now it should fall in line with other things that exist.
Skull of Dire Ahamkara is letting you spam Nova Bombs. Curiass of the Falling Star is letting you spam buffed Thundercrashes for spamming Consecration. Celestial Nighthawk gives you a strong single Goldy that gives super back on a kill and buffs a weapon… this thing needs all of its sounded functionality to keep up.
Arc has basically been stripped. You can have some success with Gifted Conviction but it’s better on Prismstic because of your ability to branch out for more DR, potential restoration, other supers and not being locked into close range melee. Punch build also arguably better on Prismstic for many of the same reasons plus freeing up exotic getting invisibility and weakening from an aspect. Gathering Storm spam is about all that could keep up in the meta and it’s not going to get slower paced… we’re too OP at this point to turn it all back this far into the game’s life cycle.
I hate when they make exotics this situational. If you want to take full advantage you need a boss that is surrounded by enemies, just not one's that are too weak and die on the initial hit. Or if you want to add clear, you need to make sure you throw a blinding grenade first to refund super energy. Either way, a Deadfall Tether would probably be more useful and Rigs would give half your energy back anyway, except in the current dungeon where tether is disabled.
Ok so I've got...not a theory on why its happening but some similarities to another similar bug or interaction.
Spirit of Galanor. It's wildly inconsistent with how much super it gives with it sometimes not giving any. This happens more often when you go Transcendent. Tether is much more consistent but things like Storms Edge? Sometimes you get half of your super back with a full hit, sometimes it doesn't give you anything.
I wonder if they just slapped the same line of code handling Spirit of Galanor causing it to have the same exact issues.
So I'm not sure if you've texted this, and I could be wrong, but maybe it's ability damage on arc debuffed targets? I've been running it a lot in the dungeon as well, and I've noticed a lot of bursts of super energy after using the tempest strike/ascension combo, especially if I throw a flashbang first
Could be!
Yeah, I run it with tempest and ascension when running onslaught and get so much super energy when defeating targets with them.
It's bugged one way or another. Whether the text is wrong or it's working incorrectly, it's not doing what it says it does at all.
Love your videos. Learn so much
Thanks!
I wonder if it's tied into primary weapons generating more super energy, since jolt kills don't actually count as weapon kills....it's possible that at least for the first part you've just got a bunch of different values and multipliers conveniently lining up, but....yeah that is *weird* 😅
Lucky Raspberry + jolting feedback auto
Ok Coolguy I am listening.
good to know, i was using it and i was like why in the world is it working this way?? didnt feel bad, just felt like i wasnt using it right.
I get that they had layoffs and whatnot, but the bugs on stuff and the long turnaround to fix them is ridiculous. 3 weeks to fix mask of fealty? Almost a month to fix ignitions (which they didnt bother to put in patch notes)? Add in the drama surrounding perk weighting. Something has to give
Cool guy... Awesome video as usual bro. Being curious I looked at your account activity through the companion app and noticed you were going into the Garden of salvation raid and repeatedly getting 25 or 27 kills then backing out and going back in. Is there a solo farm there? If so could you make a video on it? Also I had an idea for a video "Legato 11 vs Sojourner's Tale" I'd be interested in your opinion on which is the better of the two. I mean they're basically the same but it's an idea you know. Keep it up dude
I use that area for testing. Every weapon i test there. Large ad density, but they are raid ads. They don't get dropped like patrol ones, a little beefier. Good area to show perks and builds.
So what you're saying is I should use this for my solo/flawless Vesper's Host run? Because she will stand next to where she spawns clones and then this will jolt the clones a lot and probably kill them... and then I get even more super energy back for killing boss tier enemies...
muahahahahahahaha!!!
Anyways, very interesting video. Thank you for putting this together it makes a lot more sense now.
I found the only way to consistently get the super regain from kills was to invedt in blind. Blinding enemies with things like spark of beacons workedfor me consistently. Plus beacons with arc weapons like indebted kindness and grand overture go very hard with bezcons anyway. Is a same it doesnt also work with enemies killed by jolt as well.
Looks like I have another exotic to move from vault to inventory.
Coolguy, I'd send Bungie this video and get confirmation from them or at least get their eyes on this exotic.
I've been using it with ex diris, it's very good.
The targets that are near to you not your arc staff so if u are too far away you wont get that jolt proc.
2:40 couldn't the primary weapon's boost to giving super energy be making up for the fact you're blinding more enemies and have more debuffed targets giving bonus energy?
Not following. Arc primary auto vs void primary auto? Regardless, in both arc cases. Defeating multiple arc debuffed targets, in theory, should result in more gathering storm energy, right? Just out of the gate. One if not both of them.
@@CoolGuyGames I was meaning the indebted kindness vs the arc auto, indebted might've got more arc debuffs vs the auto's natural boost to super energy gains by being a primary, but watching further both of them getting less gains than the void was kinda odd. They should be giving way more super gains, I guess the exotic is just not working as intended.
The real question is name me encounters its actually useful. Other than the servitor boss in the dungeon where would you actually use it over star eaters
The answer: Nowhere
This is still kinda wrong. Maven put out a video where she highlights that the lighting that comes down is on the player and not the staff itself. So the adds under him at 5:50 are causing the refund, potentially the ones rebuffed as well
When did they rework Raiju's? That is not the same exotic that I fell in love with. Do people not use Whirlwind Guard anymore?
They moved the old raiju perk to blight ranger
The problem with arc is there's no healing unless you're using combination blow like do you really need to run high recovery and go hide until you heal?
Does it only give energy on activation or can it also give energy with kills while its planted
Doesn’t primary weapon damage build super energy faster than special or ability damage? So that may account for the disparity. If you’re downing enemies with jolt, not primary weapon damage, you’re getting the lower rate of super generation for that damage
Here's the thing though. Auto is arc primary, sidearm arc special, auto void primary. Think about it. *if* arc debuffed targets gave more super energy, I downed multiple arc debuffed targets. If that worked, don't you think the super would be more? Just in general.
@@CoolGuyGames did you try testing the same arc weapons without the exotic to see the difference there? That would prove to be a great control set of data!
If the super generation for arc jolting weapon is nearly identical with or without raiju’s, then we know for sure that Raiju’s description definitely means only for kills on debuffed targets from gathering storm.
But if non-raiju’s arc jolting weapon is generating noticeably less super, then raiju’s is doing something
I feel like the entire text being wrong goes far beyond bugged.
Ive been using it with tempest strike and lethal current to blind on tempest strike. Its funny
Hunter exotics that have super return have never and will never be consistent or understanded. From blade barrage to now this
The QA team was made redundant 😢
When did raijus get reworked again?
A bit disappointing. Thanks for the info and effort that went into finding out what it actually does.
This is one of the worst exotic reworks in a long time. Its still ridiculously terrible.
If you are using gathering storm, there is no reason to use anything other than star eaters.
Cool guy is gold eagle I swear to god they are the same person
2 new exotic armor effects for hunters this season, 2 bugged exotics... Come on, do they even test things once ?
And if the current efect is supposed to be real one, it's so mid and extremely situational.
Holy shit.
So it almost does nothing. Interesting. Maybe it’s coded in the same way perk distribution works. 😂
so, it is a energy return exotic that doesn't buff the said exotic and only works situationally, ok, so extremely bad and worse for hunters than the skull is for warlocks, got it, trash can engage
Yeah the inconsistency definitely confused the hell out of me. For example at the servitor boss in Vesper, I chucked the super down the middle of the horde of shanks as soon as I got teleported, got 50% back. I then did the same thing again and got nothing. So I thought before the second toss “oh, guess I don’t have to hit anything around me for the super refund”. Buuuut yeaaa then the second throw happened and really realized “yeaaa this ain’t working properly”
Still, a really good exotic tho! Hope they can address the inconsistency and fix the bonus super energy from arc debuffed enemy kills
Ex diris damage buff not working. Raijuu bugged. Mask of fealty bugged. Last word (actually a beneficial bug) bugged. Onslaught bugged.
Probably a lot more but just gotta laugh at this point
Atleast they fixed The Last word in PvP and kept the Damage buff in PvE
@@AdenTheWolf yeah its good that theyre not buzzkills but they also should address the other bugs. They always are quick to fix stuff that too op but when its underpowered due to a bug it sometimes stays that way for months until they even acknowledge it
@@damsdee2214 Yeah I know what you mean :/
This rework was garbage honestly, they need to rework this and rajus mask
Bungie please fix.
First
Its bungie ... its a bug ... its never what it is ... if it is fun .. they will nerf it.
The game has been disintegrating around us for awhile. With some good effects like last word, and with some less good effects like ignitions not working, the new hunter exotic shipping bugged, just a fuggin mess. The people they decided to keep on are clearly incompetent. Prolly all just gay nepo babies left at Bungo rn
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