These guys are some of the only normal youtubers in the world, they post about something they enjoyed, embraced the community that enjoyed it with them, and moved on by just talking about all things related to what they enjoyed together and never did anything weird or made any cheap fake dream for the sake of cashing in on the audience as quick as possible, thank you
0:11 For anyone curious on the math, Gavin says that he worked with phantoms in the film industry for "about half a decade before I even started" the Slow Mo Guys youtube channel. He was born on 1988 May 23. The first video on the channel ("The Slow Mo Guys - Trailer - FIRST VIDEO") was uploaded on 2010 Oct 15, when he was 22 years old, meaning he started working in the film industry when he was 17 years old. I think that's pretty cool tbh
It's because it's genuine, which should not be scary. It's just uncommon to witness. We have a passionate individual (Gav) who has connected with a company that has great quality and value. This company also wants to support him by giving him money for a product he has no reason to dislike.
Plus he's been using Phantom cameras professionally for like 20 years. The fact that there are now lightweight "affordable" options that compete with the Phantoms is worth talking about and is "mental" (as the slow-mo guy might say)
Honestly this is such a welcome bundle of upgrades! The few times I have interacted with Phantoms, the length of start-up and ease of use have been very difficult to get used to! Not to mention the price! What a great bit of tech! Glad you went more in depth than the Tested video!
The most exciting thing for me is that the rental rates on these cameras are very reasonable. I’ve always wanted to use a super high speed camera for some of my projects and this camera makes that achievable
Yeah I think that’s what I’m most excited about. My access to phantoms originally was pure luck. I couldn’t even afford to rent them. People being able to rent these for so much less is great.
Cool stuff. Sometimes I forget that most phantoms are primarily research cameras. And it’s cool to see cameras developed for cinema use first. There’s something to be said for the “mostly good enough and way more convenient to use” segment of the market and I think the ember hits that.
I love these technical and dry videos. Nerding out about the progression of slow-motion technology is always fun. The operation of this camera and the footage it shoots seems so easy compared to earlier Phantom cameras, it's really amazing what they have made and that they are selling it at that relatively low price. How does it handle the heat of hot desert days? With it being so small I assume cooling must have been more of a challenge. Also, considering this is in some ways basically a 10 minute ad for a camera, shouldn't there be a clip of you driving 90mph in 30mph school zone?
I love seeing these little videos; thank you for doing them. I don't know much about this stuff but you're quite the smart lad and share the information well with us. Also, please re-do the Geoff bike trick!!!! Would be fun to see again without you dying in the Texas heat carrying a giant camera.
it's always interesting to see Gavin get really into the weeds on the thing he's a very specific and highly speciallized expert in. Because often he seems kinda spacey and maybe even dumb, but that's because he's a highly skilled technician and will be more out of his depth outside of his specific field of specialization. I think a lot of highly skilled technicians can often seem pretty dumb immediately outside of their field
Very interesting, thanks gav. Be interesting if you could line up a tour of the ember factory like you did with phantom. See what different stuff they are doing etc
Brilliant video once again! I could even claim that this channel is better than the main channel. I just really love your in-depth explanation about all this stuff.
Feels like someone that had years of experience dealing with the bs of older phantoms got so frustrated they literally just went and made their own camera and specifically designed it and its firmware in such a way that it directly fixed every workflow issue they could possibly think of, simply to make the whole user experience better, while undercutting the market to a decent extent. It's really impressive.
I'm glad to hear there are other options for you, I love your content and am always excited to see new videos from all of you and your guests! Thank you for your terabytes (Petabytes? Exabytes even?) of awesomeness!
That sliding the app isntead of the slider on iOS made me laugh so bad 😂 cause that used to happen to me all the time, in iPhotos before they released the newest design. 😂 😂
I’ve always been interested in the Kron Technologies Chronos camera line, particularly the Chronos 1.4. This camera has been my dream camera for almost a decade and in my opinion, it’s one of the best high-speed cameras for people wanting to start out in high-speed video. I’ve wondered for a while, what are your thoughts and opinions on K.T.s cameras, from your viewpoint?
Ya know, you went from "that guy who used his access to high speed cameras to make a channel of his own" to "that guy who's famous for cutting edge footage" so fast I really didn't notice until I realized that I've been parasocially aware of you since like 2006
Having a Sony A7 IV and how careful I am with that, it scares me to think about putting a more expensive camera on a pole and holding it while onewheeling 😂
We have seen similar improvements in my industry, where custom ASICs have been replaced by standard COTS components, and are faster, smaller, less power intensive, and even transition to passive cooling--all at less than 1/4-1/8 the cost.
I'm sitting in a flat that I bought for £27k some time back. Now I'm looking at an advert for an "affordable" camera that is quite a bit more than that. But it is all so well explained that I'm tempted to put my life savings into a fancy camera, battery, monitor, lens, and all the other bits to back up and view the output. Good job that I don't have my life savings in an account where I can click "Buy Now".
Many years ago I was part of a discussion whether the Hasselblad 2-1/4 x 2-1/4 format camera was better than the common 35mm format. The argument at that time the consensus was the 2-1/4 x 2-1/4 was better as you can crop either horizontal or vertical depending on the media the picture was to be used with, i.e. news article, magazine article, photo album, etc. After taking an optical physics course in college there is a more economical reason for a square format as the image created fits into a circle. After spending gobs of money on a high quality lense, why purposely crop away part of the image with a rectangular format. This reasoning is not as important as the cost for these high speed cameras outweigh the cost of the lenses. Thanks for sharing.
As a self employed film maker getting notice about comparably cheap tech like this is golden. It is a very neiche product but it may be worth an investment later down the line, especially once you may be able to pick something like this up used (there arent gonna be a lot of these - I am aware of that). Its going to be a banger to have in your equipment line-up and since barely any film makers even own something like this you can take decent pricing on these on both renting them out as well as using them on a shoot yourself. And since nobody is going to buy them, you will likely rent them out rather frequently as long as you got the network. I might need to flip some more numbers but as long as you take like at least $1600/dayOfShooting for the body this could be a reasonable investment from my very first guess.
Its good to see a company come in and disrupt the industry with kit that actually solves a lot of the problems of stagnant other providers. RED did it when they first came onto the scene. Bringing cine 4k cameras to the market at a fraction of the cost of sony and arri, hopefully unlike RED they wont start hiding normal ssds/usb/codecs behind bs proprietary things to mark up the price beyond what they should sensibly be.
The best camera is the one at hand, the size of it and the speed at which it starts up is great... more unplanned shots are recorded, and that and the slow scrub speed on others make it tedious.
Competition is a good thing. That said, I think Phantom cameras are simply filling a different niche for blockbuster movies, so I’m not confident they will change in reaction to Ember cameras.
It's a metal box that becomes "make your own camera by attaching things". So different from normal customer products. It's interesting that for much less money they have addressed many more quality of life needs of users like being actually able to easily record and transfer the material.
Really interesting thanks Gav. Something I’ve often wondered; phones gave us high speed video up to ~250fps about 10 years ago (and a couple could burst up to 1000fps, for short time periods)… now phones are able to give us 4k60 video, which in terms of pixels read per second is vastly more than the slow mo modes; yet slow mo seems to have plateaued. You reckon this is just due to low demand from consumers? Or is there a technical limitation to shooting faster? (Realise light gathering on a tiny phone sensor would be an issue at 1000+ fps, but in broad daylight phones regularly expose photos for
Smaller sensors bypass some of the limits of larger sensor high speed cameras, such as high power draw, high heat buildup and slow sensor readout. All of these things can be solved, of course - but at great cost. Phones today have tiny sensors and can in small bursts record at high framerates. But the limitation is both in light gathering ability, and in dynamic range. The end result is a far less pleasing image. And continuous recording at beyond 240fps isn't something I've seen in a phone. (some claim to do it, but if you read more you'll find that they just do motion interpolation in post to artificially slow the footage further.)
I am just curious how much money you have put into tech just to run your RUclips channel to create this awesome content. Then I understand that you do what you do professionally as well, movies etc.
*Sliding the app around because the playhead is at the bottom* not just an IOS issue, depending on flavour of android and your preferences (if you've enabled gesture based navigation) it's just as much of a problem on Android. I feel your pain dude.
Honestly, I'd be interested in this style of camera even if it didn't do super high frame rates. The modularity looks awesome and the app seems like it works super well. Too long I've been looking for a 'box' type camera that lets you build it out however you need and been dismayed at both pricing and ecosystem limitations.
Something I'd love is a camera that isn't ££££ that can do say, 1000FPS at a decent ish res for "consumer" market. Phones are making good progress with 480FPS at 720p but I always feel that with a phone you're missing out on lens options etc...
I *thought* the cheese rolling video was on a different camera! I didn't know what kind, cause you're not gonna get that level of detail on one of them lil Chronos cams and frankly I don't know any other brands.
actually watching a humming bird at a billion fps would be cool, go do that! start filming bugs and that stuff, they all do really weird cool stuff really fast
I wish I had the money for one of these, I record aviation and love slo-mo so much slowest I can go with my Sony A7SIII is 240fps at 1080 or 120 at 4k.
it's interesting, from my layman's perspective it seems like the ember cameras are just better than the phantoms in like...every way. i wonder what the upsides to the phantoms are compared to the embers? especially as gavin said they now can record to external ssd's as well with that module
I don't think the Embers will go above 4000ish fps so they're quite limiting in terms of frame rate. Perfectly fine if you don't need silly speeds, but SMG videos are regularly using much higher frame rates. Also the Embers can't currently shoot raw but there is a possibility that may come further down the line.
These guys are some of the only normal youtubers in the world, they post about something they enjoyed, embraced the community that enjoyed it with them, and moved on by just talking about all things related to what they enjoyed together and never did anything weird or made any cheap fake dream for the sake of cashing in on the audience as quick as possible, thank you
4:20 Thank you for the most heart-warming and pure genuine joy in the closeup on Dan's face after he falls over, that should totally be an ad!
I agree! What a wonderful pair of people!
Yeah :)
honestly, this should be a contender for best photo of the guy use it at his wake.
That sick Geoff bike jump
A regulation bike jump if I've ever seen one
Came to say this - and am very happy to see it at the top of the comments.
nice to know geoff is active enough to do that without getting hurt
Lucky the friendly ghost didn't topple him over!
Absolute regulation bikey
0:11 For anyone curious on the math, Gavin says that he worked with phantoms in the film industry for "about half a decade before I even started" the Slow Mo Guys youtube channel. He was born on 1988 May 23. The first video on the channel ("The Slow Mo Guys - Trailer - FIRST VIDEO") was uploaded on 2010 Oct 15, when he was 22 years old, meaning he started working in the film industry when he was 17 years old.
I think that's pretty cool tbh
He talks a bit about it I believe in that Tested sit down video with Adam.
Imagine the different trajectory his life would have taken if he didn't have a guy living near him who had access to the slowmo cameras
Fun fact for anyone who didn’t know, Gavin was involved in the slow mo clips in the top gear level crossing PSA, aired 25 February 2007
Yup. Sherlock Holmes 2.
He was in a Skype commercial at like 15 right? Or am I misremembering and that's when he considered that his start
Gavin. you just made me watch a 10 minute ad and i loved it. this is a scary talent to have.
It's because it's genuine, which should not be scary. It's just uncommon to witness. We have a passionate individual (Gav) who has connected with a company that has great quality and value. This company also wants to support him by giving him money for a product he has no reason to dislike.
I agree, but then I thought, "It's really no different than watching Top Gear test out a car most of the viewers can't afford for 10 mins."
Plus he's been using Phantom cameras professionally for like 20 years. The fact that there are now lightweight "affordable" options that compete with the Phantoms is worth talking about and is "mental" (as the slow-mo guy might say)
For me it's mostly because it's an ad for a product I know I'm never gonna be able to afford anyways, so it's not really affecting me.
Slow Mo 2 Gavin is such whiplash from every other version of Gavin I have ever known
I know what you mean. I am listening to f**kface and regulation. I think Gavin must stick a crayon up his nose or something before the podcasts 😅
im gonna take a guess and its because he actually sounds smart in these videos?
Going directly from the Throatler supplemental to this was wild lol
Here he really lets his expertise speak - which makes a video like this a real endorsement of the Ember camera!
@ 8:56 So humble. Obviously a slo mo guru. But then he goes slo mo ambassador for everyone else in the biz
Honestly this is such a welcome bundle of upgrades! The few times I have interacted with Phantoms, the length of start-up and ease of use have been very difficult to get used to! Not to mention the price! What a great bit of tech! Glad you went more in depth than the Tested video!
The most exciting thing for me is that the rental rates on these cameras are very reasonable. I’ve always wanted to use a super high speed camera for some of my projects and this camera makes that achievable
Yeah I think that’s what I’m most excited about. My access to phantoms originally was pure luck. I couldn’t even afford to rent them. People being able to rent these for so much less is great.
Love you kept this gem in here at 8:04
Perfect example of why I'm sticking to an android phone with the 3 buttons at the bottom right there 😂
i’m not in the target demo for any of these cameras, but i find the tech fascinating. love all the behind the scenes stuff
Cool stuff. Sometimes I forget that most phantoms are primarily research cameras. And it’s cool to see cameras developed for cinema use first. There’s something to be said for the “mostly good enough and way more convenient to use” segment of the market and I think the ember hits that.
I love these technical and dry videos. Nerding out about the progression of slow-motion technology is always fun. The operation of this camera and the footage it shoots seems so easy compared to earlier Phantom cameras, it's really amazing what they have made and that they are selling it at that relatively low price.
How does it handle the heat of hot desert days? With it being so small I assume cooling must have been more of a challenge.
Also, considering this is in some ways basically a 10 minute ad for a camera, shouldn't there be a clip of you driving 90mph in 30mph school zone?
Cheeky indeed.
Always good to see behind the scenes stuff like this.
Slow Mo Guys 2 fans eating well!
I love seeing these little videos; thank you for doing them. I don't know much about this stuff but you're quite the smart lad and share the information well with us. Also, please re-do the Geoff bike trick!!!! Would be fun to see again without you dying in the Texas heat carrying a giant camera.
Love the shirt. Nostalgic feels
it's always interesting to see Gavin get really into the weeds on the thing he's a very specific and highly speciallized expert in. Because often he seems kinda spacey and maybe even dumb, but that's because he's a highly skilled technician and will be more out of his depth outside of his specific field of specialization.
I think a lot of highly skilled technicians can often seem pretty dumb immediately outside of their field
I'd be pretty spacey on set if I had to run several highspeed cameras, direct my best friend, and be a host at the same time.
love these kinds of videos
Ads?? yeah me too 🤣🤣
Very interesting, thanks gav. Be interesting if you could line up a tour of the ember factory like you did with phantom. See what different stuff they are doing etc
This guy knows alot about slow speed cameras, he should make a channel dedicated to filming slow-mo.
Brilliant video once again! I could even claim that this channel is better than the main channel. I just really love your in-depth explanation about all this stuff.
Freefly are better known for their kickass drones, keen to see the ember on an astro drone for some aerial slowmo.
Love to see BNC still being used and catered for, it just works
Ever since I saw what the freefly cameras can do I wondered when you will adopt them. Great to see you doing just that.
Love these technical videos! Please share more.
Feels like Phantom has been enjoying monopoly and they're finally getting some competition.
Feels like someone that had years of experience dealing with the bs of older phantoms got so frustrated they literally just went and made their own camera and specifically designed it and its firmware in such a way that it directly fixed every workflow issue they could possibly think of, simply to make the whole user experience better, while undercutting the market to a decent extent. It's really impressive.
I'm glad to hear there are other options for you, I love your content and am always excited to see new videos from all of you and your guests! Thank you for your terabytes (Petabytes? Exabytes even?) of awesomeness!
Love seeing Dan eat dirt in some cheeky b roll
I used the 5k on a commercial recently. Not only does it give you insane fps performance, the overall picture quality is beautiful.
Love watching videos about stuff I will never ever experience myself in my life
Very impressive little camera! Worth every penny!
That sliding the app isntead of the slider on iOS made me laugh so bad 😂 cause that used to happen to me all the time, in iPhotos before they released the newest design. 😂 😂
The cannon joke was a low blow Mr Small HD.
I don't why I watch a 9 minute ad for camera I will never use, but here I am.
That was quite fascinating, Gav. Thanks.
I’ve always been interested in the Kron Technologies Chronos camera line, particularly the Chronos 1.4. This camera has been my dream camera for almost a decade and in my opinion, it’s one of the best high-speed cameras for people wanting to start out in high-speed video. I’ve wondered for a while, what are your thoughts and opinions on K.T.s cameras, from your viewpoint?
Regulation cheeky behind the scenes vid!
Lil sausage talk
@@scottsterba2818 Slowsage talk
I gotta say, it's such a treat when we content like this. Something about the way Gavin explains things is a joy to watch.
Looking good with the grey hairs~ Makes me feel old, though :(
Phantom crying in a corner somewhere
Ya know, you went from "that guy who used his access to high speed cameras to make a channel of his own" to "that guy who's famous for cutting edge footage" so fast I really didn't notice until I realized that I've been parasocially aware of you since like 2006
Having a Sony A7 IV and how careful I am with that, it scares me to think about putting a more expensive camera on a pole and holding it while onewheeling 😂
Testing a product for a year before doing a video on it is pretty cool
We have seen similar improvements in my industry, where custom ASICs have been replaced by standard COTS components, and are faster, smaller, less power intensive, and even transition to passive cooling--all at less than 1/4-1/8 the cost.
Alright professional Gav video done.. Now I'm going to watch him figure out whose the Throatler
Guys at Phantom having an aneurysm right now
I love the sound effect when attaching the phone monitor... 😅
So awesome - glad you enjoyed the camera!!
looks like a jetski stunt camera to me
I'm sitting in a flat that I bought for £27k some time back. Now I'm looking at an advert for an "affordable" camera that is quite a bit more than that. But it is all so well explained that I'm tempted to put my life savings into a fancy camera, battery, monitor, lens, and all the other bits to back up and view the output. Good job that I don't have my life savings in an account where I can click "Buy Now".
"Some time back" 😂
You can use the guided access option to lock an iPhone to a single app, so you don’t accidentally swipe the bottom.
This technology jump is wild
love it champ
you guys are the best 🤜🏻🤛🏻
I love how i watch and think hmm yea that's a good feature like ive got 25 grand rn
Many years ago I was part of a discussion whether the Hasselblad 2-1/4 x 2-1/4 format camera was better than the common 35mm format. The argument at that time the consensus was the 2-1/4 x 2-1/4 was better as you can crop either horizontal or vertical depending on the media the picture was to be used with, i.e. news article, magazine article, photo album, etc. After taking an optical physics course in college there is a more economical reason for a square format as the image created fits into a circle. After spending gobs of money on a high quality lense, why purposely crop away part of the image with a rectangular format. This reasoning is not as important as the cost for these high speed cameras outweigh the cost of the lenses. Thanks for sharing.
2-1/4? two minus one divided by four?
This should be submitted as an infomercial- the only enjoyable one
As a self employed film maker getting notice about comparably cheap tech like this is golden. It is a very neiche product but it may be worth an investment later down the line, especially once you may be able to pick something like this up used (there arent gonna be a lot of these - I am aware of that). Its going to be a banger to have in your equipment line-up and since barely any film makers even own something like this you can take decent pricing on these on both renting them out as well as using them on a shoot yourself. And since nobody is going to buy them, you will likely rent them out rather frequently as long as you got the network.
I might need to flip some more numbers but as long as you take like at least $1600/dayOfShooting for the body this could be a reasonable investment from my very first guess.
Competition is great. You should do some videos on the Kronos stuff
9:13 “mildly useful input” understatement
Can't wait to see this attached to a FPV drone!
Its good to see a company come in and disrupt the industry with kit that actually solves a lot of the problems of stagnant other providers. RED did it when they first came onto the scene. Bringing cine 4k cameras to the market at a fraction of the cost of sony and arri, hopefully unlike RED they wont start hiding normal ssds/usb/codecs behind bs proprietary things to mark up the price beyond what they should sensibly be.
Loving the vid, love the BTS
More competition is good for consumers
The best camera is the one at hand, the size of it and the speed at which it starts up is great... more unplanned shots are recorded, and that and the slow scrub speed on others make it tedious.
Competition is a good thing. That said, I think Phantom cameras are simply filling a different niche for blockbuster movies, so I’m not confident they will change in reaction to Ember cameras.
This seems like Ember doing to Phantom as Bambu did to Prusa with 3d printers.
Thanks Guys.
It's a metal box that becomes "make your own camera by attaching things". So different from normal customer products.
It's interesting that for much less money they have addressed many more quality of life needs of users like being actually able to easily record and transfer the material.
Always gotta keep in the shots of Dan wiping out, right? Lol.
Really interesting thanks Gav. Something I’ve often wondered; phones gave us high speed video up to ~250fps about 10 years ago (and a couple could burst up to 1000fps, for short time periods)… now phones are able to give us 4k60 video, which in terms of pixels read per second is vastly more than the slow mo modes; yet slow mo seems to have plateaued. You reckon this is just due to low demand from consumers? Or is there a technical limitation to shooting faster? (Realise light gathering on a tiny phone sensor would be an issue at 1000+ fps, but in broad daylight phones regularly expose photos for
Smaller sensors bypass some of the limits of larger sensor high speed cameras, such as high power draw, high heat buildup and slow sensor readout. All of these things can be solved, of course - but at great cost.
Phones today have tiny sensors and can in small bursts record at high framerates. But the limitation is both in light gathering ability, and in dynamic range. The end result is a far less pleasing image. And continuous recording at beyond 240fps isn't something I've seen in a phone. (some claim to do it, but if you read more you'll find that they just do motion interpolation in post to artificially slow the footage further.)
8:20 Huh, that’s attached to the *exact* same robot we have in our lab.
I am just curious how much money you have put into tech just to run your RUclips channel to create this awesome content. Then I understand that you do what you do professionally as well, movies etc.
Meanwhile current phones haven't got any faster than the 960fps on my 6 year old one, where's my 1920fps already?
*Sliding the app around because the playhead is at the bottom* not just an IOS issue, depending on flavour of android and your preferences (if you've enabled gesture based navigation) it's just as much of a problem on Android. I feel your pain dude.
What are the downsides compared the Phantoms?
I would assume codecs or general image quality, but it's difficult to say only having seen footage via RUclips's compression.
Doesn’t shoot as fast as recent phantoms. Doesn’t shoot raw.
gavin really goes from terrorizing andrew panton in gears of war to being a complete nerd real quick
Honestly, I'd be interested in this style of camera even if it didn't do super high frame rates. The modularity looks awesome and the app seems like it works super well. Too long I've been looking for a 'box' type camera that lets you build it out however you need and been dismayed at both pricing and ecosystem limitations.
Massive time saving with the ssd!
Thanks for sharing!
A year sounds about the right amount of time to evaluate a camera like that, can't do that in a day.
The guy from the the fruit and veg aisle in Waitrose thinks $25k is affordable.
Typical Waitrose
Something I'd love is a camera that isn't ££££ that can do say, 1000FPS at a decent ish res for "consumer" market. Phones are making good progress with 480FPS at 720p but I always feel that with a phone you're missing out on lens options etc...
Dang that's cheaper than an Alexa Mini! Not that that's very cheap...
Ooooh! I'm gonna get 2 for 3-D!
as long as they genlock. although for most subject speeds you should get away without at slo mo speeds.
I *thought* the cheese rolling video was on a different camera! I didn't know what kind, cause you're not gonna get that level of detail on one of them lil Chronos cams and frankly I don't know any other brands.
I sense...a transition of cameras entirely
actually watching a humming bird at a billion fps would be cool, go do that! start filming bugs and that stuff, they all do really weird cool stuff really fast
A complete experts opinion, still slips in a gripe with Apple Ios
I wish I had 25k to spare, lol, would love to got one of those.
I wish I had the money for one of these, I record aviation and love slo-mo so much slowest I can go with my Sony A7SIII is 240fps at 1080 or 120 at 4k.
When i have the money i will buy this camera as fast as possible except if there is a even cheaper camera by then xD
Is it me, or does this feel like a pitch to Zach Snyder?
Imagine SlowMo wheat, from the sycthes perspective...........
cheeky breeky
I love you
it's interesting, from my layman's perspective it seems like the ember cameras are just better than the phantoms in like...every way. i wonder what the upsides to the phantoms are compared to the embers? especially as gavin said they now can record to external ssd's as well with that module
I don't think the Embers will go above 4000ish fps so they're quite limiting in terms of frame rate. Perfectly fine if you don't need silly speeds, but SMG videos are regularly using much higher frame rates. Also the Embers can't currently shoot raw but there is a possibility that may come further down the line.
What’s the specific phone mount Gav’s using?
excuse me? an 8 TB cinemag is more then 25k??? Dude....what a proprietary-ripoff, dear lord!
Anyway, keep it up, Gavi!
Kewl :3